Nalgene Bottle vs Military Canteen (Stainless Steel)
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- Nalgene Bottle vs Military Canteen (Stainless Steel)
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You should let the water boil 5 to 10 mins. This lets anything in the water time to die. Also it is a good idea to bring a second, smaller water bottle as an emergency bottle. Because you never know what will happen in a camping/survival situation. But 5-10 mins is how long you should boil water and also make sure to run the water through a shirt or a Shemagh to remove any large particles.
NP
Why do you use ounces if you're Austrian? Mainly for the American audience, or is that what you're used to?
Informative. Thanks.
Love the dog enjoying himself
I did a temp assignment at Nalgene years ago. The agency told me my assignment was up, so I stopped going. A few days passed and then I get a call from Nalgene. Apparently they hired me on full time but nobody told me. Since I didn't show up the first few days, they fired me. Good news was that I got a pretty nice severance package that was worth a few thousand dollars. Not bad for a job I didn't even know I had.
The job agency was probably not getting paid for you being there anymore..
i was most impressed that you quite obviously were completely objective in your detailed evaluation of the two bottles...listing and discussing both their weaknesses and strengths. So much so, that I assumed that you preferred the Nalgene bottle until the end of the video when you stated that you preferred the military canteen. This is the exact type of objective product comparisons that are needed. Thank You! Well Done!
agreed. to me, i think that the nalgene makes a better water bottle, and the canteen makes a better all around bottle (putting in fire, cooking kit, even versus a nesting cup on the nalgene, etc).
Thank you for this video, very informative.
Regarding the seam: when the canteen is placed into the cup, the seam seals the cup to guard against contamination of the cup.
Regarding the canteen's turned in lip: this is to accommodate a fish mouth spreader to hang the canteen above a fire.
Lastly, the cap is made from Bakelite, more durable than regular plastic. If the cap falls into the fire you'll have a few seconds to retrieve it without damage.
That is not the reason there is a seam on these shape bottles at all, it's a side effect of manufacturing a vessel of this shape, it isn't possible to make them in one piece and must be manufactured in 2 parts and crimped together.
@@MDM1992 not true. I own military canteens that are made in 1-piece
@@MDM1992you have never seen blow molded items?
Very thorough comparison Lilly. I have the same canteen and never considered the issue with the seam. Scratch Dax behind the ears for me.
Lilly, you always find some very important detail or seldom addressed aspect of bushcraft or survival to bring to my attention. Most of the TH-cam survival guys just do their variations on the same general themes or topics. But you get down into the subject at hand and then you speak to the things I wonder about and you do it very well!
Plus, your partner, Dax is always fun to watch. It sometimes looks as though he is trained to perform when the camera is recording him. LOL Great dog.
You are a great survival teacher.
And easy on the eyes too.
Thanks.
Hello from Oklahoma.Great review and assessment of the equipment. I hope Mr. Canterbury was paying attention. All of your findings are valid. I appreciate the information, wished I would've seen this alot sooner. Love the videos old, and new. Loved the kit in a can. God Bless!
Hi Lilly, thank you for a great video. The 'rim' on the military style canteen is because the canteen is manufactured in two separate sections, top and bottom, which are then welded together. It is possible to manufacture this type of bottle in one piece, however this is much more difficult and much more expensive.
Thank you for the honest review. I have both systems. I found the same pros and cons as you. But I prefer the Nalgene set up. I can't say exactly why, I just do :) Both are great!!! take care -Chris
Hey Chris Happy Easter
I love your videos !
mrbakerskatz thanks brother! Happy Easter to you as well! ROCK ON!
An advantage to the Nalgene is that there are many inexpensive (and expensive) insulating bottle holders sized to fit the standard nalgene shape that can keep it from freezing overnight.
Lily, at first I thought you were missing the cup that slides onto the bottom of the canteen when you mentioned the 'bomb proof' rim. The lip around the military canteen is designed to keep debris out of the cup when it is slid into place under the canteen. The military canteen is designed with the curve on it so troops that carry them on their web belt would have the canteen contour to their hip. Since the mil canteen has thicker walls, I would have expected it to boil slower than the Nalgene -but 20 seconds is not much of a difference. OKAY, with all that being said, I have to tell you, this is one of the best outdoor videos I have seen, certainly the best comparison video. What makes it stand out is your attention to detail be providing detailed specs on each bottle, the pros and cons of practical uses of each and of course the prices. Well done. Keep up the great work.
Lilly, you don't have to thank anyone for watching. We need to thank you for doing these excellent vids.
MaximusArurealius agreed!
You said the military canteen was 5-6mm thick. That's a 1/4" thick. I know the pathfinder website says 5-6mm but that would make the canteen weigh about 6-7lbs. It's more likely that it is 5-6mils which is 5-6 thousandths of an inch or
1.5 mm.
Ed Ben Never 1.5 mm i think its 0,5-0,6 mm. 1.5 is nearly bulletproof.
Ed Ben 5-6 milliliters is a quantity of liquid, not thickness of a material, 20 mils = 1 Tablespoon of liquid. though 5mm thick must be wrong also as that's half a cm :S
Ed Ben 5 - 6 thousands of an inch = 0,13 mm. Somehow I am confused now.
september1683 I'm confused as well.
Brisdad53 It would be cheaper to either buy Brit army 44 pattern canteen with mug, or army surplus $60 is silly price
I am an old USArmy grunt and will love and use the military canteen forever.
+Gorbag Goes Camping Plus it is real issue so it is "Bomb Proof." :)
Thanks for the video, enjoyed it as I do all of your videos.
much respect,
Gorbag
that ring on the military canteen is so it does not get stuck in the cup that it sits in when carried.
+Survival Lilly It's both!:)
Another very good and fair review. Job well done.
anyways i admire anyone who can speak their native language and another common language (as for you its german and english ) im of german and austrian ancestory and i just love the culture of those two nations keep it up
she is austrian iirc
My Grandma was born outside of Regensburg. I would like to camp in the Grunwald some day.
Good video Lilly... Every tough prepping review I have seen on this military canteen didn't even take bacteria into consideration. Best review for this category I have ever seen!
on the pathfinder military canteen, the rim is a seam. it is made in two pieces and then assembled.
Lilly the reason
Great vid Lilly. With my Pathfinder Canteen I just swish a little peroxide around inside once in a while before I use it and it kill just about everything. I do agree that the lip and seams are a little bothersome for catching undesirables. My lid doesn't leak and it is much easier to get on and off, I wonder if you just got a bad lid? It might be worth mentioning to Dave's crew and see if they will send you a second lid to try.
Hi Lilly, to clean the groove inside a canteen: cut some new sponge and wrap it over the end of a wooden spoon handle. Tie it in place with some dental floss. Then get the sponge wet and put toothpaste on it. It is slightly abrasive, but won't scratch the stainless steel. Use the wooden spoon handle/sponge to polish all the hard to reach areas inside your canteen. When done rinse with boiling water and stand upright to dry. The canteen will be so hot from the rinse that any water left in it will evaporate quickly.
Like people will carry a sponge with them just to clean their canteen. I will pass.
MrOldclunker You don't think spreading knowledge is a good thing ?
And your reply means?
+MrOldclunker or you could just wait 'til you get home ...
What if your out for weeks. I don't go for just a day hike.
The rim on the canteen is to stop debris from getting into the cup that the bottle nests into.
No it's not, it's not possible to manufacture these bottles in one piece so they must be manufactured in 2 parts and crimped together, knowing this fact they designed it so it wouldn't effect the cup going onto the bottom for nesting. If they could make it in one piece they would have and there would be no issue with debris because you can just wipe out the cup before use. This is why round bottles with nesting cups don't have a seem, because they can be made in one piece which is a far superior method for both strength, and to remove the issue of bacterial growth in the seams.
The rim on the military style canteen is only there so it'll fit over the military canteen cup properly.
Lilly. The military canteen should of come with a cup that fits on the out side of the canteen and it comes with 2 wire handles . The cup is also good to cook in.
Hi lily, I'm not sure if someone has already mentioned it but I believe the lip on the military canteen is where the the canteen cup would sit. Being former us army we would put our canteens in our canteen cups and then in the pouch.
Lily, I really like your videos - very informative and fun to watch. Being a dog person (Aussie Shepherd and my rescue Labrador), I just have to know - is that a Springer Spaniel? Absolute fun, and a great companion dog for you. Please keep up the good work. Come camp in lovely eastern Oklahoma!
A military rule of thumb: only use water for water containers. No bacteria.
Also, you could use plastic canteens with a steel canteen cup, too. Use the cup to boil water and once it is cooled, store inside the canteen. I use a Kelly Kettle and carry multiple plastic water containers. I can boil water on the go, in just a few minutes and leave no trace. Also, I cook in a high quality steel thermos when possible. Give it a try!
The lip on the canteen Adds rigidity to the weakest point of the bottle to prevent crushing, it also creates a crude seal between the cup and the bottle to prevent debris from getting into the cup, it also adds a gripping point so the sweating bottle is less likely to slip out of your hand, it also helps keep the bottle in the carrying pouch so in effect all of the suggestions of its purpose in these comments are correct. It simply does all of those things.... :)
Hello Lilly, Before a Canteen was made with tin so that was a problem before and I never heard anyone getting Alzheimer from stainless steel. Also when you screw the cap on the Canteen, start by going backwards until it you feel it clicks from the beginning of the thread for the line up so it fit will screw in correctly and have a even rotation for the seal. The lip on the Canteen is for the cup when attached so it will not rattle loosely. Most of all I agree with you using the Canteen and now I'm gonna purchase one. Thanks..
I think you have the worlds dirtiest dog! But also the happiest!
+hat wobbla I love it when a dog gets to be a dog.
+hat wobbla I thought the dog was on happy tablets could also be what it is being fed....woof.
+Dj Ruccy And wearing ribbons and sweaters....
+hat wobbla DAX constantly proves that a dirty dog is a happy dog.
The rim on the Military Canteen is for a canteen cup stop, with a military canteen can have a cover and a canteen cup
Wouldn't be a Lily vid without Dax wallering around in the mud.
irritablearchitect I just hope hes not going in the back of the car for the ride home as my dog does lol, all that mud. My dog loves to go for a swim in the river just as we are about to leave lol, end up hanging round a bit longer so the sun can dry him a bit, lucky hes black in that regard.
I have to watch it twice. First time, all I can think of is "damn that's a nice sweater" and the second time for the actually very good comparison.
The military canteen is formed in two pieces, the top and the bottom. The two pieces are joined at the "spine" and explains why it is there.
Thank you for doing a good review in the field and showing the pros & cons objectively before stating your personal preference. Well done!! As for those that ignore the canteens and gripe about how the firesteel was truck, no worries over them please. Most Mora knives, good as they are, don't have a 90 degree spine for striking a firesteel. Likewise, many far more expensive knives with various coatings (including ESEE) don't allow for spine striking either without modification to remove the coating or filing the spine. Using the cutting edge as a striker might dull the blade or chip it in a worst case scenario, it's easily fixed by sharpening in the field or when getting back home. No big deal. Thanks again for a good review! (OldMan, 40+ years experience in the bush)
I've used and trusted Nalgene bottles for decades. Whether plastic or steel, they do not leak, they do not break. I recently acquired the Pathfinder cup/pot, and it nests perfectly. Never liked the hip flask design of that other one, nor its nesting cup. Nalgene for me, but I appreciate the review.
just a simple practical suggestion, -for your Nalgene bottle you better use a fish mouth spreader. that would help you to hang the whole bottle with water over an open fire to get it boiled. i used it and it worked just great.
I just adore your dog! You are so lucky to be able to explore nature with such a fine companion.
Hallo Lilly,
meines Wissens wird diese Form der Edelstahl-Nalgene nicht mehr hergestellt. Die neue Flaschenform läuft unten konisch zu, vermutlich um besser in irgendwelche Cupholder zu passen. Das Füllvolumen ist auch leicht geringer. Ich denke auch, dass das neue Nalgene Modell nicht mehr vernünftig in den Tatonka Becher passt.
Viele Grüße
The rib on the military "style" canteen is probably for mating with a military "style" canteen cup and allows for some air gap so it doesn't get stuck in the cup.
The ring goes in there because there was a cup made to go on the bottom of that canteeen, all military canteens come with that to cook and boil stuff.
I see you brought 'ol muddy buddy with you,---- he looks so happy when he wallows in the mud!
PS, thank for the comparison, been wondering which one to get😁👍
I grew up in Boy Scouts in the States in the 50's and 60's, and have always loved the military-style canteen and canteen cup. They were cheap and readily available as war surplus, which was perfect for us Scouts. (I still have mine!) I don't remember there being a nesting stove back in those days, but I've had one for a couple of decades. For me, it's more the comforting thought of having a back-up way of cooking than as something I've used often. The smaller, 'normal' GI nesting stoves work with my small Trangia alcohol stove, so it is useful when open fires are not an option. I agree that the "L" handle on the canteen cup makes it stable in the fire, and on uneven ground. And the ground is *always* uneven!
The lip around the canteen is there, to prevent dirt from getting into the canteen cup, that the canteen generally comes with. When your wearing the canteen and cup in your Molle canteen cover, it helps keep sand and dust that lands on the top of your canteen and rests on top of the cover, from falling down into your cup or the dirt leaking down into it from rain or condensation, or perhaps a leaking canteen. They started adding that rim around 1944-45. From what I've heard, the WWII Marine's were complaining that the sand on all the beaches they were assaulting was always ending up settling in there canteen cups. I'd guess the creator of this model liked that feature and used it. In my experience, it does seem to work! Prior to 1944, the seam went around the canteen from top to bottom, with no lip of course; but the simplest explanation is, that they cast the canteens in two parts, then join them together at that seam. Making the seam with a lip, helps keep the dirt out! :)
I don't think I've ever seen such a comprehensive comparison of what would otherwise be an afterthought item. Bravo
Very thorough comparison Lilly. I think the military canteen is the better of the two because you get the stove, cup and canteen for one price and the Nalgene bottle is clearly lacking right out of the gate due to the fact that it has no stove and is top heavy. Not only does the canteen cup stove provide stability, but it also has the safety feature of lessening the possibility of starting a ground fire.
Hi Lilly...greetings from Chicago Illinois...USA....I really enjoy all your videos. They are always well thought out and informative and helpful. I've just only been a subscriber for three weeks when I seen your video of making bacon and eggs along with your hot chocolate and have enjoyed them ever since. Thank you for keeping me entertained and also learning from your excursions. Give Dak a hug and look forward to your next adventure .....final thought, I always collect and save lint from the dryer screen which makes a real good fire starter.....peace
Great job Lily! I own the Kleene Kanteen 40 ounce, and it works well. Thanks
Use a baby bottle brush to clean all canteens and shake a paper towel inside to completely dry the inside. I prefer a military canteen because of the accessories like cup, stove and cloth carrying pouch that attatches onto any belt.
If you get the Nalgene bottle, and also buy a steel cup, the price is almost the same, but the military canteen includes the cup, plus the carry pouch, a better buy in the long run. Thanks for showing the 2 styles and providing both good and bad points of both.
Great comparison of these two bottles.
The cleaning of the inside of the military bottle to kill any bacteria can be done with a little bleach in water and let it sit for a while.
Rob.
Good points about the advantages / disadvantages of the military style stainless canteen. Thank-you...
Hi lilly, that rim is for when you have a belt holder for your canteen, it helps it stay in Place.
Nice Video... the seam on the military type canteen is to stop the canteen from pushing down to deep in the cup and becoming stuck in the cup. Back in the day that was a common problem with the old G.I. issue plastic canteens.
Hi Lilley the pathfinder canteens
Rim / crease is where the two halves upper and lower halves of the canteen were put together
Sorry if this had ready been stated
The rim is there so it fits snuggly into the canteen cup and canteen carrier. Its designed to leak into the carrier bag so it keeps the contents cool.
Apparently the rim around the canteen keeps trail dust out of the nesting cup while on the move, but I don’t think it’s an issue really if a round bottle is nesting with a round cup and is in an enclosed bottle bag
Lilly, the lip on the canteen may be to keep debris out of the cup when they are nested. I know that the U.S. military canteens do not have the lip and the cup is always collecting bits of dirt, and such. However, if this is true, it seems that it can't be that important because the canteen won't be that clean when you drop it in, anyway. Just a thought.
One concern I have about wide mouth bottles is the chance of spills that can empty out the canteen/bottle very quickly whereas the older style of military canteen has a smaller mouth nd it accidentally dropped, not all of the water will spill out before recovery is possible. So, one of these small mouthed military stainless steel canteen with cup and carrying pouch will run about $18.39 via walmart. They also have the Bnfussa Spcantns 32 oz stainless steel canteen with cup and pouch also at walmart for $22.66.
Smallmouth, less spillage and better conservation of amount of water drank in survival situation.
you can use a fish mouth spring device that keeps a toothed fish from biting you as you remove the hook. It is spring loaded, you can get it from a lot of fishing stores. It also fits into the mouth of either the water bottle or canteen, the spring end is in a coil spring loop style where you can hang either over the fire.
I just got a Nalgene bottle, They are soo awesome and robust. I dont think they make the one you have anymore though. Just the backpacker edition. All the best!
Also, modern military doesn't use metal canteens as they break bones when soldiers land on them when parachuting in.
That's a welded seam around the middle of the canteen. The shape is difficult to make from a single piece of metal, and a welded flange is quick and easy vs figuring out how to seam weld around the irregular contours of the canteen. The threads/neck of the Nalgene are machined and welded onto the bottle, but in a way that retains a food grade finish. And Nalgene is more corrosion resistant.
I love the military style canteen better also and in a way I wish the U.S. military still issued the steel canteens instead of the plastic ones they now issue, but they didn't plan for them to be used to heat water in. Both of the containers you have are nice and the cups which come with them look nice also.
Good video Lilly, thanks. BTW, you can see the purpose of the ridge on the military canteen when you put it in the cup. You can see it's inserted correctly, and dirt or grit will not get into the cup. Also, you mentioned price. The military canteen is more expensive, but you said you got the cup and a stove with it, while you had to buy a separate cup for the Nalgene bottle. If you also got a stove, the price would probably be nearly equal. And you gave good reasons why the military canteen was better than the Nalgene bottle.
Just to correct a little error , the Pathfinder cap is not in PVC or plastic but in Bakelite with is advantage (does not melt) and inconvenient (can be brittle).
Excellent comparison video. Thanks Lilly.
Another helpful review! I have both but have not tested them with simultaneous boiling. It seemed that the insulated (vacuum) Nalgene might boil slower but you have proved otherwise.
Concerning the difficulty removing the canteen lid in winter, you may consider using an oil filter wrench that has a woven strap that fits around the filter. Should make for easy removal in any weather due too leverage provided by the handle with minimal effort.
if you buy the Nalgene bottle make sure you shop around, it goes anywhere from $40.00 to $25.00
Good point about the rim of the military bottle. I'll be more aware of this! Thanks!
I find the canteen easier to carry as well. But that might just be familiarity with that style talking. I also carry the large plastic 2 quart on my ruck frame. The shape of the other bottle always felt too wide on the belt and too long to just slip into a cargo pocket. Thank you for,the great video.
I bought a 20 ounce water bottle made of stainless steel at Wal-Mart for three dollars. It has lasted me for ten years so far. Most camping or survival gear if so overpriced as to be ridiculous. My stainless fry pan & 40 ounce pot together cost me fifteen bucks. Look in the housewares department, insted of the sporting goods department. Spend that saved money on a good quality first aid kit, and beer. Love your videos, I learned alot from them.
I can't believe I just saw you use the blade of your knife with that Ferro rod. It's really a bit of a survival no-no isn't it? In a survival situation, if it was the only tool you had, you have just endangered the blade. Did the knife not have a 90 degree spine?
The worst is you'll dull the knife a little bit if you do it over and over. I've never rolled a edge of a blade doing this myself but I have dulled a blade made out of 1095 slightly from this. One reason I like a square and "sharp" spine on a knife is for this application though your knife may not be exactly non-plused by this practice its not really a no-no at least from what I've learned but ymmv depending on knife selection. One good reason to have a SAK type multi blade knife, back of the saw is a perfect surface as a ferro scraper.
In a life threatening situation, one of the first things you want is fire. It is a hell of a lot easier to get a spark using the blade rather than the spine. Way down the list of priorities is a nice shiny sharp blade. The knife will still do everything you want it do after using the blade this way.
That sir depends on the situation...and also the knife. The blackbird SK-5 and several others have a unbroken edge on the spine that is fantastic for this, also does not gouge into the rod as much I have found.
The Mora Companion does not come with a 90 degree spine, it can be filed but doesn't come that way.
Knowing her that isn't the only knife she has on her.
Dax might be quite literally, 'the happiest dog in Austria".
Thank you for taking the time to explain all these things that you do. Very intelligent young woman. There are two people that I follow all the time, you and Joe Robinet. Awesome.
that's because I send a pack stuff and the canteen cup and it's supposed to keep from riding all the way up and it comes directly from the Pathfinder store wherever you come from
On the military cup, I think the ridge round the middle is there to stop the cup jamming on too far & being hard to remove (as well as strengthening the bottle), but I agree it is a cleaning issue.
Hi Survival Lilly. I am quite aware of this video being a year old now, but I wanted to tell you of Self reliance outfitters Gen3 SS bottle and cup/pot setup. I recently purchased one to augment my SS canteen set from them as well. Awesome piece of gear and an additional pot is great for quicker meals and coffee or tea.
Oh well, thats just an idea if you haven't already tried one.
Stay in the dirt and keep the videos coming, we sure do enjoy them.
You're RIGHT, Lily, when deciding between the two, it all comes down to personal preference. I must admit I didn't even know the military canteen was available in SS. EFFERDENT, the anti-bacterial denture cleaner, does the best job of anything for removing coffee stains or any other stains from inside any SS container. I thought someone was teasing me 20 years when I first tried it, however, I discovered that it really works. Put an EFFERDENT tablet in hot water inside the SS container & leave it overnight. The next morning the stains are GONE. I smiled when you told us the two containers capacity in OUNCES instead of ML's.
A teaspoon of liquid dishwasher gel like cascade and boiling water works great too.
Honestly I thought what could be to this comparison. But wow you were very thorough and detailed great job... Impressed with the knowledge you share from experience.
I've been a stainless bottle person for a long time. Owned and lost many ss bottles. My last bottles were Kleen and Pathfinder. Once I found Nalgene I was convinced. It will do everything a survival bottle needs and it has a neck that can take a lanyard. At $27 I bought two. Two is one. Many other stainless bottles are over $30.
Fair enough.
I did wonder if it was a relatively cheap blade cut on a guillotine in such a way that it doesn't have a hard edge, in which case i was going to suggest running the back of the knife over a finisher or diamond file to create a square back...works well with the cheaper knives like mora's and similar.
The "civilian" model looks like two of the military "Nalgene types" that a company in Irvine made for the 10th Special Forces Group at Ft.Carson. I managed to get two of them. They were developed for use in Afghanistan, during the winter seasons. I don't know how far they went with the R&D phase. 🤔
the point of the rim was so that when you put the canteen in the cup it fills the gap so that rocks and dirty dont go in the cup when rolling around in the field
But it also greatly reinforces it against crushing inward or buckling, acting like angle iron reinforcing the sheet metal. The concave, asymmetric shape of the canteen is much more vulnerable to crushing than a cylinder is. A good functional designer, aesthetic designer, and mechanical engineer doing stress analysis can all contribute to a good design where form follows function. Especially in designs which have evolved over time, as canteens have, and weaknesses are found and fixed. Great products are the way they are, for combinations of reasons considered when optimizing the product. Debating one reason versus another as why something was done a certain way, misses the point that it was done to balance all the reasons in a way that works for the intended purposes.
Thanks Lilly! I have some words about compatibility. I found the problem that Tatonka Handle mugs (art.4072) can be slightly different in sizes. I have some different Nalgene bottles (93,5 - 94,2 mm diameter). I found 3 of 5 Tatonka Handle mugs in the same shop doesnt fit my Nalgenes. So, you can't 100% trust even so famous brand as Tatonka. As for GSI mug I know it's slightly bigger than Tatonka and its inner size is 97 - 97.2 mm (info from Cabelas). So, It's better to check the compatibility with your gear by yourself.
Danke Lilley für die tolle Produktpräsentation.
Ich selbst finde den Preis den die Military Canteen mehr kostet immer noch ok. Wenn die Qualität stimmt dann hat man auch sehr lange Freude daran.
Grüße Ruben
Great review Lilly! The only one on TH-cam I've seen comparing the two.
The raised ridge on the Military Styled canteen is caused by the manufacturing process of joining the upper stamping and lower stamping due to the complex shape. Later aluminum canteens were made from two shells and eliminated the ridge. Maybe we could suggest to Pathfinder to modify the canteen cap to be designed to resemble the tactical Riflescope caps currently on some sniper rifles with ribbed outer ring built in. A technique I use for fine to medium threads is to place the cap on and turn counterclockwise until the cap makes a "Click" sound. The threads should now be properly aligned to be secured without cross threading. Give it a try. as usual I enjoyed your video and thoughtful presentation.
+James Carmean So many ideas about the ridge. I was going to leave a comment, but you got it dead right. The raised ridge on the Military Styled canteen is caused by the manufacturing process of joining the upper stamping and lower stamping due to the complex shape. Exactly.
Thanks, Lily, for the review. I also have both products and use them. There is no perfect solution. The Nalgene bottles fit the side pockets of my pack really well. The cup (Olicamp with lid) and stove work well enough. But the canteen has a much better cup and holds more.
There is no perfect solution, especially in this case. Perhaps one of each is a good idea.
Also, MILSURP canteen pouches make excellent pockets for a MOLLE compatible pack. I keep several around for this reason.
Well done.
Thanks for a good, informative review. I'll try to find one of those military canteens. I like that is is a complete system.
Happy Camping!
Late comment but get a cheap toothbrush to make cleaning the bottles easier. It can get in that line and around the whole bottle with ease. It helps clean a lot of other stuff too.
Try putting some silicon grease on the screw lid and seal of the military canteen. It is non toxic and will make the lid go on tighter and open easier. Silicon grease is a handy item to have in a bug out bag.
I use old school GI. Metal canteen with cup and stove, plus I use the ArchAngel stove, and aColeman two cup cooker system. Works for me.
Boiling water may kill germs but it does nothing for other contaminants like heavy metals or petro chemicals for aggro-runoff. For those things you should use a filter. Unless you have some way of distilling your water.
Hay Lille, super Vergleichstest. Habe auch eine Flasche von dem Shop, aber in der Version wie die nalgene aufgebaut ist. Ich bin mit ihr sehr zufrieden, zumal die Verarbeitung bei der Öffnung wie bei der nalgene ist. Finde es super das du uns auf diese Schwächen der army Ausführung hin gewiesen hast, ist doch sehr riskant falls sich dort keimen oder so sammeln sollten. Aber sonst finde ich beide Versionen sehr gut. Gruß
I use Two 40oz Klean Canteens, both being wide mouth. Alot like the Nalgene bottle, but a bit bigger.. And said Canteen will fit in Nalgene holders/pouches.
The rim of the military canteen is so it seals into the cup canteen. Keeps your cup clean. Water bottle should be for water only. Cup for food.
Hi Lilly. Thanks for your video. I think that the canteen you are comparing to the Nalgen one is not quite a military canteen but inspired in the military canteens. The wide mouth and the size are an improvement from the original mil stuff. I can see, by the brand symbol (Pathfinder) that it is a product associated to Dave Canterbury, design by them.