@@FriendlyMBTech Scotty would never stoop to this level with you. Although, I am sure he could. You sure you haven't got some sort of wrenching to be involved with, maybe some sort of auto mechanic stuff? I am sure you will have more content to pick from, Scotty is uploading 2 to 3 videos a day and has nearly 6 million subs. Scotty is the man.
While I agree with you Scott is not always 100% correct but for a comparison, my 2004 Lexus LS430 with 200k miles has no code whatsoever when I scanned it yesterday. I remember when I took home my brand new E class in 2002, the next day 2 power windows crapped out and had to be replaced. Sold the Benz in 2003 due to multiple issues I cannot tolerate any longer.
@@FriendlyMBTech The first step of solving a problem is admitting there is a problem. I owned lots of cars, the only ones that never give me any headaches are the Lexus and Toyota. I still own a 1990 Land Cruiser with 350k miles and it still drives like brand new. Nothing broke, even the power windows are still working. I gotta admit Benz is good looking and definitely better than Tesla.
I could never make it through one of his videos. The guy just bangs on about Japanese cars. If I wanted something boring and plastic that works without fuss, I'd buy a straw.
I'm a diehard Scotty fan and I drive Toyota, I feel this was a fair and honest reaction! I won't buy a Mercedes but the people that do need to know both sides.
Its just personal preferance. German cars has more power while Japanese cars are more durable, generally. Mercedes build quality looks really good but often breaks a lot from my experience. My wife's Mercedes needs more cares and repairs during the years compare to my gx 460. But hey, she loves to drive it and thats what matters.
You’re confusing durability with reliability. Mercedes’ build quality is better than basically anything Japanese, and is more durable. Their attention to detail is also unbelievably better. The reason Japanese cars seem so reliable is because they’re extremely simple. If there is less complexity, you’ll generally have less problems. Mercedes driving dynamics and road feel are far ahead of most Japanese cars, and obviously this takes a lot of engineering to make happen... meaning more complexity and parts that could possibly fail. Japanese cars are especially boring and bland because they’re mostly designed to be cheap to own, not to be the BEST as Mercedes aims to be. A Mercedes is better than basically ANY Japanese car in almost EVERY way. It’s no surprise that they’ll need more attention.
I'm watching this to help support your videos but please don't ever play Scotty kilmer again.. The hyperbole and voice and... Ugh. *Deep sigh* If you look at this there were about three pieces of information that were both valid and reasonable. The rest was me trying to ignore it and then you pointing out the same things that I was trying to ignore.
I agree. It was difficult to get through. The constant laughing was annoying, like a cheese grater to the brain. I appreciate you watching it though. Thank you for subjecting yourself to it.
This guy making this video seems angry but Scotty is right I owned there merchandise and they are money pits as they age so that’s good this guy making the video enjoys ripping people off
Funny i just watched this video to attempt to detour my daughter from buying a used Mercedes. Didn't work because owner priced it desperate to rid himself of it. I found a stack of service receipts most $650 dealer visits. Car has just over 110k miles, unfortunately you have not but debunked Scotty K. Also you need to talk much faster and wave your arms all over when making uour next video
Oh believe me, they're very expensive to own and repair. If you aren't ready for repairs in the thousands of dollars, don't buy one. Thank you for the input, I'll speed up my talking and waving.
How many of those 50+ years are on Mercedes-Benz vehicles all day every day? Has he had factory training by Mercedes-Benz? Is he Mercedes-Benz Master Certified? Didn't think so.
@timvest8141 I'm not bashing anyone. So far, not one person that said I'm wrong or that I don't know what I'm talking about has yet to actually tell me how I'm wrong. I can take criticism better than most. If I'm wrong, by all means, tell me how I'm wrong. "50 years of experience" sounds great when said out loud but how many of those 50 years are spent fixing Mercedes-Benz vehicles specifically? My guess is that number is a lot less than 13. My comments in the video are fact. Not click bait screaming and outlandish claims calling 25 codes 25 problems.
@@FriendlyMBTech all of this bullshit is just matter of opinion. Why did you think it was your duty to call Scotty out on a 7 yr. old video anyway. He has almost 6 million subscribers. Are you trying to boost your ego?
As a Mercedes Benz tech when I watched that video when scotty posted it, I just shook my head how inaccurately misinformation he can give off, great vid man
First of all let me just say that I do believe Scotty Kilmer is full of crap, in general. Secondly I've been owing my Baby Benz for 30 years now and even though is getting harder and harder to find genuine parts, thank you Mercedes, I will not part ways. With that in mind I do have a quick question and a remark, quick question is: Is it normal for a 2021/2022 to have that many fault codes stored? At one point those were active codes, weren't they? That many for a new car? I"m sure they were fixed , hence the "stored" , still.....And my remark would be regarding the quality which in my humble opinion start going down starting with mid '90 and the introduction of new generation , W140 wiring, RUST in W203 (Mercedes was the gold standard , it was never heard of rust in any model) and so on, and now the EQS "only the specialist personnel of a qualified specialist workshop should open the hood. Access by customer is not permitted. To open the hood , consult a qualified specialist workshop". Anyways keep the video coming, specially for the W124 :D
10 out of 10 times when we diagnose a car for one concern, be it a check engine light or what have you, there are always unrelated codes found. Sometimes there are many related codes also. Is it common for that many code to be stored? Absolutely. Especially for newer cars. The number of control units in vehicles are increasing. Right now, certain models have more than 100 control units. So, to have 25 stored codes is normal. A lot of those faults he showed could have been caused by a one-time fault in one control unit. They're like dominoes. Since many control units talk to each other, one fault in one control unit will set a code, and each control unit down the line will in turn show a fault. 9 out of 10 times the driver didn't even know it happened because nothing is actually wrong. There would be nothing to fix or replace. A lot of the times when we process the fault, the computer will ask us, "was there a customer complaint? If not, this code can be ignored" or something to that effect. When it came to building a Mercedes, back in the W124 and W140 days, it was engineering before profit. Now it's the other way around. Mercedes build quality used to be a point of pride from Mercedes owners. Now it's a punchline. Mercedes as of late, has been moving in a direction that forces people to have to visit a dealership to maintain their vehicles. New vehicles you can physically replace the battery, but you can't reset the throughput data or even scan the new battery using a 2D scanner. It's getting kind of silly.
Is it a diesel Mercedes. I like those old 70s 80s Mercedes and if I ever find one that doesn't have a trashed out interior I think it's possible I might drop a SBC in it. Unless I find a old 2dr Jag
@draileduncommon I've thought about a LS swap in an old diesel Mercedes. It's one swap that's still legal in CA since they don't have smog tests for older diesel vehicles.
After having dismantled a W126 560 SEC AMG down to the very frame and body, I can tell you, those 80's Mercedes' were built like tanks. The job was pure joy, as the car was assembled by hand it was also easy to disassemble by hand. However, it spoiled me. Working on newer cars can feel like torture after that experience. You're right about the quality drop and timing of it as well. The early 90s saw the end of the hand-built Mercedes, and the end of an era when it came to that level of quality. The 2008 recession then led to a decrease of quality in all vehicles across the board. 2020 and the subsequent economic crisis (i.e. today's crap economy) didn't help/isn't helping the quality situation either. The saying, "they don't make 'em like they used to" still holds true, even for Mercedes.
I agree with Scotty on this one. Those cars are a b**** the work on and it costs a ton of money to fix. Don't buy used ones if you're a guy who likes to work on your cars and not pull your hair on your head.
Scotty got under a car once using just a jack, and also spliced brake lines using unions that said right on them not for use with brakes. That’s all that needs to be said about Scotty.
Mercedes is designed to be driven untill warranty ends that’s it I would never ever drive a Mercedes beyond the warranty period stick. They are better than bmw but it’s not worth the money to do service where I live
9:14 - no they do not all break. Ford used that same design on the 2005 to 2009 mustangs and ive never seen one that didnt work. Those mustangs get abused a lot more than the Mercedes. The wind noise in those Celicas is atrocious hence why the Germans and later Ford used a different design. God, listing to Scotty is like nails on a chalkboard.
I hate Scotty Kilmer. Not only is super ass annoying he is almost always inaccurate and misinforming people about things just like you’ve pointed out over and over. I have a 2011 S550 4MATIC that has been nothing but lovely. I did have to replace amd air strut yet. But that is because I hit a pothole that was hidden underwater on a rainy day. Not Mercedes’s fault not really my fault but just a sucky situation. Do I hate the car now and think it’s a pile of crap?? Absolutely not. I also drive a 1999 S500 Grand Edition. Yes the infamous nineteen-nineties S Class the W140. The car that people say makes Mercedes mechanics, both dealer and Indy, crawl. It currently has 163,000 miles on it. It’s has been a true joy to own. It’s not all that scary to work on. I did a complete tuneup on it all by myself at the house with zero issues or hesitations. But it’s been very well cared for by me and its previous owner. So because of that it’s also been as reliable as any Lexus LS I’ve owned in years past.
scotty talks like a hysterical woman. hate hearing him. I am a mercedes tech for over 28 years. I just replaced the l side fuel level sender on a w207 with 68k miles. It was spraying fuel everywhere due to bad plastic same as the prior 4 i did this year. i can say that inmo the mercedes engineers are waging a war against mechanics. I love my miata far more than I like my r230. from what I am seeing is that Mercedes is making poor quality cars that are very difficult to repair. My goal is to buy a 03-06 cl65 amg mechanic special. that is the one thing I like about my job is getting mechanic specials for pennies that cost as much as a home new. I can sat that my w126 om617 was a very well built car and what is being made now is not the quality of that 1982 300sd that I drove on used atf for 200k miles.
You can't beat old Mercedes. I remember the mileage badges on old Mercedes. Now you see a newer Mercedes with that many miles and you just think to yourself, "what a piece of shit". Just pray the turbo coolant seals on the CL65 don't give out any time soon.
I have to agree with you on at least one thing...I love my Dodge grand caravan overall far more then I love my R129. Also, IMO I would agree with Scotty on at least ONE thing ....UNLESS you are a MBZ Tech or a MBZ DIY person " they ARE a money pit".
@PolPotsPieHole It's difficult to tell sarcasm over text. I'm not sure if he was serious or not. The Car Wizard seems to know what he's talking about more than Scotty Kilmer. I haven't watched a lot of his videos so I'm neither here nor there about him. What I have seen of his about MB is opinion based and I'm not here to sway someone's opinion. I'm here to correct bad information.
@@FriendlyMBTech Yes I know,lol. I love car channels glad I stumbled into yours, this has been fun, lol.Thanks for responding, and I subscribed.....keep em coming
@@PolPotsPieHole I have an old one. I've spent more on that car than any car I have ever owned. I have intimate knowledge of how much of a money pit they can be.
@@FriendlyMBTech I have a MINI and that thing is a money pit. Truth be known any car can be a money pit. I have a JEEP too, Just empty each pocket, lol, never seen anything like it
While I enjoy some of Scotty's videos and am thankful for many of his tips, when it comes to Mercedes he is clearly quite biased (and biased the other way for Toyota). As with any auto manufacturer, some models have more problems than others. The newer GLE/GLC/GLS models have already become notorious for issues (although those rear tires are sweet to look at). Way to pick the seemingly worst model they make, Scotty. I won't go off about some of Japan's absolute trash models, but it's common among all companies to have some bad eggs (including his bff Toyota). And, as mentioned in the video, a historic event is far different from a current code. As also mentioned, when there are that many it's usually from one incident causing a domino effect, which may simply be someone unhooked the battery slowly. This does not mean 25 issues or even necessarily any issues, for that matter. That's just a false narrative and Scotty must know that with the amount of experience he has. His bias rears it's ugly head again. Now, I'll hear complaints about the GLC/S/E models all day with some sympathy at least, but his trash talk about the Gen 1 CLS is just a sad display of his outright bias. The W219 is one of the most iconic and amazing chassis Mercedes ever built. Isn't it something that literally every other car company (including Toyota) did their best to copy it's insanely unique design? It's not just pretty, either. The CLS 55 AMG outperformed it's 2-door SL counterpart at the Nurburgring, which is widely known as one of the most monstrous cars to come out of the 2000s. Also, it's interesting he shows a CLS 550 badge after showing a CLS 500 (M113) engine. The Gen 1 CLS 550 was equipped with the M273 engine. Not even the same car? Badge swap? What gives? "Could you imagine when it's 5 or 6 years old?" Yes, yes I can. My current baby is 16 and my previous babies are now as old as 41 and still on the road in great shape. Mercedes are built for life, at least they certainly used to be. I'm not convinced any new car is built to last beyond 10 years. But at least Mercedes will sell parts for them forever (or as long as they exist). You can walk into a Merc dealer right now and get a control arm for an '82 SEC. Try asking any Japanese dealer for 40 year old parts. GL. 130k miles on my 16 year old CLS 550 and it has ZERO issues. The windows going up and down when opening/closing the doors is a great feature to save the window seal and have it seal tight, given that the car is a 4-door coupe (no frame around the windows). They've never failed. I've replaced suspension parts, brakes, oil, filters, tires, plugs, coils, and the CDs in the 6-disc changer that's ingeniously hidden in the dash. That's it. I've never had a more reliable car. It also smokes most Corvettes (especially on the highway), holds 4 people in a luxury interior, and is smooth enough at ludicrous speed to serve tea in the back seat. Good luck with that in a Toyota. I would also be remiss to not mention the 4-piston Brembo brakes this CLS is equipped with that stop the car on a dime, almost literally (and btw the AMGs have even crazier 8-piston Brembos with 4 pads per caliper!). I found this out recently when a family of deer ran out of the woods right in front of me. I went from 50mph to 0mph so fast that the air in my body kept going while my body stopped and left me breathless, as if I had the wind knocked out of me. No squeal, no ABS, the car just stopped as close to instantly as you can possibly imagine. If I had a Corolla for that event I'd now have a totaled Corolla, or at least the insurance company would, and I might be dead. If I was in my truck, I'd now have a totaled truck, but I'd probably be alive at least. However, since I drive a car that's built to PERFORM (not just go A to B without breaking too often) it was a non-event that I can laugh about now. Safety and performance matter a lot more than cost of maintenance or profit on resale. I understand why some, like Scotty, may disagree. However, I'm sure my kids, who still have a living father on earth (thanks to God and this car), do agree. And yes, Mercedes' do devalue quite a bit over time, due to the fact that repairs are expensive when done by a dealer. However, that's not a problem, that's a gift to humanity! It means you can get a CLS 550 luxury coupe in mint condition for less than Scotty paid for his Corolla (or any other Toyota he's ever owned). And if you do your own work, it probably costs less to maintain than a Toyota that has to go to a dealer for maintenance. This is a win-win situation. If you don't want your car to devalue then don't buy a new one, this goes for all manufacturers. Lastly, all those control modules he mentions, well they just make it super easy to diagnose almost any issue with the Mercedes STAR/Xentry diagnostic system. While Mercedes and the like seem to have gone a bit overboard with some of these modules in recent years, the late 90s through early 2010s models seem to be a sweet spot for diagnosis procedures on Mercs. While I'm not surprised a mechanic with 50 years experience (meaning he's probably at least 70 years old) wouldn't want to learn how to use a laptop with 'fancy' software and instead quit working on Mercs (Scotty's buddy story), it's pretty easy for anyone with average tech skills. Scotty and his friend can crawl around underneath their Toyotas on some nice, cold concrete floors getting sore and dirty all they want. Meanwhile, I'll plug in my laptop, have a coffee in my luxury interior, and probably find/resolve the issue 10x faster by simply lifting a few fingers. Enjoy the floor, Scotty! #WorkSmarterNotHarder
@@FriendlyMBTechscotty isnt 100% correct all the time. Us car guys already know this. But for the most part scotty is right and has over 50+ years of experience n tells it like it is. U on the other hand work for mercedes and have a bias to defend them. Yes if ur a master mechanic fot mercedes im sure u r very capable as a technician but scotty is still a valuable asset to the car community.
@webguy943 I'm not defending Mercedes-Benz. As a technician, I know more than most people how expensive and rubbish they can be. Nothing I said in the video is untrue. Codes don't equal problems. Just because a code is present, doesn't mean a repair is needed. Rotors don't need to be replaced every time pads need to be replaced. Washer reservoirs don't leak because of the cap. Any claims to the contrary are ludicrous and false. I'm not saying I know everything or that I am never wrong. I don't need 50 years experience to know those claims are misinformation.
No! He is not ! Mercedes are crap to work on, Most of them end up in the junk yard with low miles . parts are expensive, electronics are crap As well. Based on my experience.
If anything I said in the video is incorrect, please let me know. I'm not saying Mercedes vehicles don't have their issues. I'm saying the information given in his video inaccurate.
I am so sorry, but if you spend $150,000.00 on a car..... it's not acceptable to have a problem, any problem at alllllllll. It should be covered by Mercedes 100% for at least 5 years, in my opinion. The factory is between Birmingham and Tuscaloosa, and it is very impressive, I have been there. It was a very positive thing for the Alabama economy when it was built in.... 1993. Thirty years ago. 😮 Scotty is a little hard to take initially, but do your homework. As a child, he was a mathematical prodigy and has a extremely high IQ. This is just one video. It's sort of like you saying " the car might have only coded one time" He has tons more. He is very facted based in his detailed videos of the history of all vehicles and doesn't have any manufacturer sponsors. Look it up. Btw What did you say the labor fee was for one hour of service at a Mercedes dealership? 🎤 drop
Listening to Scotty about cars is a mistake. He's incredibly unprofessional and lacks enough knowledge of current cars. He is scared of multiple computers in cars. I have seen him do "repairs" on a gravel driveway letting dirt and gravel into areas that need to be clean. As far as suspension for MB, they are very easy to work on and good aftermarket are just as good as OEM and way cheaper. I can change a front strut on many Mercedes in less than an hour on my driveway and basic hand tools He is just too intimidated by these cars due to ignorance.
Mercedes are expensive and designed to be for the people who can afford them to brag about the purchase which comes with a service warranty package. Generally speaking, they pay a lot for every last piece, every last every last mile
I guess Scotty is getting under your skin. Did Mercedes pay you to debunk Scotty?
No. Just decided to correct the misinformation.
@@FriendlyMBTech Scotty would never stoop to this level with you. Although, I am sure he could. You sure you haven't got some sort of wrenching to be involved with, maybe some sort of auto mechanic stuff? I am sure you will have more content to pick from, Scotty is uploading 2 to 3 videos a day and has nearly 6 million subs. Scotty is the man.
Scotty knows cars
While I agree with you Scott is not always 100% correct but for a comparison, my 2004 Lexus LS430 with 200k miles has no code whatsoever when I scanned it yesterday. I remember when I took home my brand new E class in 2002, the next day 2 power windows crapped out and had to be replaced. Sold the Benz in 2003 due to multiple issues I cannot tolerate any longer.
I can scan a PDI and it will have codes 😂😂😂
@@FriendlyMBTech The first step of solving a problem is admitting there is a problem. I owned lots of cars, the only ones that never give me any headaches are the Lexus and Toyota. I still own a 1990 Land Cruiser with 350k miles and it still drives like brand new. Nothing broke, even the power windows are still working. I gotta admit Benz is good looking and definitely better than Tesla.
@@BunderaKZT I 💯 agree with you. I see the worst of them every day.
I could never make it through one of his videos. The guy just bangs on about Japanese cars. If I wanted something boring and plastic that works without fuss, I'd buy a straw.
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I'm a diehard Scotty fan and I drive Toyota, I feel this was a fair and honest reaction! I won't buy a Mercedes but the people that do need to know both sides.
Its just personal preferance. German cars has more power while Japanese cars are more durable, generally. Mercedes build quality looks really good but often breaks a lot from my experience. My wife's Mercedes needs more cares and repairs during the years compare to my gx 460. But hey, she loves to drive it and thats what matters.
You’re confusing durability with reliability. Mercedes’ build quality is better than basically anything Japanese, and is more durable. Their attention to detail is also unbelievably better.
The reason Japanese cars seem so reliable is because they’re extremely simple. If there is less complexity, you’ll generally have less problems. Mercedes driving dynamics and road feel are far ahead of most Japanese cars, and obviously this takes a lot of engineering to make happen... meaning more complexity and parts that could possibly fail.
Japanese cars are especially boring and bland because they’re mostly designed to be cheap to own, not to be the BEST as Mercedes aims to be. A Mercedes is better than basically ANY Japanese car in almost EVERY way. It’s no surprise that they’ll need more attention.
This is America I will watch what I want..😂
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I'm watching this to help support your videos but please don't ever play Scotty kilmer again.. The hyperbole and voice and... Ugh. *Deep sigh*
If you look at this there were about three pieces of information that were both valid and reasonable.
The rest was me trying to ignore it and then you pointing out the same things that I was trying to ignore.
I agree. It was difficult to get through. The constant laughing was annoying, like a cheese grater to the brain. I appreciate you watching it though. Thank you for subjecting yourself to it.
This guy making this video seems angry but Scotty is right I owned there merchandise and they are money pits as they age so that’s good this guy making the video enjoys ripping people off
Funny i just watched this video to attempt to detour my daughter from buying a used Mercedes. Didn't work because owner priced it desperate to rid himself of it. I found a stack of service receipts most $650 dealer visits. Car has just over 110k miles, unfortunately you have not but debunked Scotty K. Also you need to talk much faster and wave your arms all over when making uour next video
Oh believe me, they're very expensive to own and repair. If you aren't ready for repairs in the thousands of dollars, don't buy one. Thank you for the input, I'll speed up my talking and waving.
This guy thinks his 13 years experience is better than Scotties 50+ years. that's cute.
How many of those 50+ years are on Mercedes-Benz vehicles all day every day? Has he had factory training by Mercedes-Benz? Is he Mercedes-Benz Master Certified? Didn't think so.
@@FriendlyMBTech so you don't like it when somebody bashes you? LMAO.
@timvest8141 I'm not bashing anyone. So far, not one person that said I'm wrong or that I don't know what I'm talking about has yet to actually tell me how I'm wrong. I can take criticism better than most. If I'm wrong, by all means, tell me how I'm wrong. "50 years of experience" sounds great when said out loud but how many of those 50 years are spent fixing Mercedes-Benz vehicles specifically? My guess is that number is a lot less than 13. My comments in the video are fact. Not click bait screaming and outlandish claims calling 25 codes 25 problems.
@@FriendlyMBTech all of this bullshit is just matter of opinion. Why did you think it was your duty to call Scotty out on a 7 yr. old video anyway. He has almost 6 million subscribers. Are you trying to boost your ego?
As a Mercedes Benz tech when I watched that video when scotty posted it, I just shook my head how inaccurately misinformation he can give off, great vid man
Thank you!
First of all let me just say that I do believe Scotty Kilmer is full of crap, in general. Secondly I've been owing my Baby Benz for 30 years now and even though is getting harder and harder to find genuine parts, thank you Mercedes, I will not part ways. With that in mind I do have a quick question and a remark, quick question is: Is it normal for a 2021/2022 to have that many fault codes stored? At one point those were active codes, weren't they? That many for a new car? I"m sure they were fixed , hence the "stored" , still.....And my remark would be regarding the quality which in my humble opinion start going down starting with mid '90 and the introduction of new generation , W140 wiring, RUST in W203 (Mercedes was the gold standard , it was never heard of rust in any model) and so on, and now the EQS "only the specialist personnel of a qualified specialist workshop should open the hood. Access by customer is not permitted. To open the hood , consult a qualified specialist workshop". Anyways keep the video coming, specially for the W124 :D
10 out of 10 times when we diagnose a car for one concern, be it a check engine light or what have you, there are always unrelated codes found. Sometimes there are many related codes also. Is it common for that many code to be stored? Absolutely. Especially for newer cars. The number of control units in vehicles are increasing. Right now, certain models have more than 100 control units. So, to have 25 stored codes is normal. A lot of those faults he showed could have been caused by a one-time fault in one control unit. They're like dominoes. Since many control units talk to each other, one fault in one control unit will set a code, and each control unit down the line will in turn show a fault. 9 out of 10 times the driver didn't even know it happened because nothing is actually wrong. There would be nothing to fix or replace. A lot of the times when we process the fault, the computer will ask us, "was there a customer complaint? If not, this code can be ignored" or something to that effect.
When it came to building a Mercedes, back in the W124 and W140 days, it was engineering before profit. Now it's the other way around. Mercedes build quality used to be a point of pride from Mercedes owners. Now it's a punchline.
Mercedes as of late, has been moving in a direction that forces people to have to visit a dealership to maintain their vehicles. New vehicles you can physically replace the battery, but you can't reset the throughput data or even scan the new battery using a 2D scanner. It's getting kind of silly.
Is it a diesel Mercedes. I like those old 70s 80s Mercedes and if I ever find one that doesn't have a trashed out interior I think it's possible I might drop a SBC in it. Unless I find a old 2dr Jag
@draileduncommon I've thought about a LS swap in an old diesel Mercedes. It's one swap that's still legal in CA since they don't have smog tests for older diesel vehicles.
After having dismantled a W126 560 SEC AMG down to the very frame and body, I can tell you, those 80's Mercedes' were built like tanks. The job was pure joy, as the car was assembled by hand it was also easy to disassemble by hand. However, it spoiled me. Working on newer cars can feel like torture after that experience. You're right about the quality drop and timing of it as well. The early 90s saw the end of the hand-built Mercedes, and the end of an era when it came to that level of quality. The 2008 recession then led to a decrease of quality in all vehicles across the board. 2020 and the subsequent economic crisis (i.e. today's crap economy) didn't help/isn't helping the quality situation either. The saying, "they don't make 'em like they used to" still holds true, even for Mercedes.
Yes and No. Watch the full half hour for the total answer.😂
I agree with Scotty on this one. Those cars are a b**** the work on and it costs a ton of money to fix. Don't buy used ones if you're a guy who likes to work on your cars and not pull your hair on your head.
150k I would go buy an apartment as a down payment.
Scotty got under a car once using just a jack, and also spliced brake lines using unions that said right on them not for use with brakes. That’s all that needs to be said about Scotty.
@@NovaScotiaKevin 😂😂😂🤔
Mercedes is designed to be driven untill warranty ends that’s it I would never ever drive a Mercedes beyond the warranty period stick. They are better than bmw but it’s not worth the money to do service where I live
The cost of service is definitely excessive.
Scotty’s the best!!! Mercedes’ suck along with the people that drive them…don’t mess with Scotty, he’s been fixing cars long before you were born!!!
Scotty is full of crap on everything. He was one of the original famous youtubers, making YT revenue on shilling products and clickbait.
Scotty is just fine, happy to be alive and yapping about cars, you sound like your miserable, maybe jealous?
9:14 - no they do not all break. Ford used that same design on the 2005 to 2009 mustangs and ive never seen one that didnt work. Those mustangs get abused a lot more than the Mercedes. The wind noise in those Celicas is atrocious hence why the Germans and later Ford used a different design.
God, listing to Scotty is like nails on a chalkboard.
Scotties a poor mans mechanic. Cant fault him for not liking mercs
I hate Scotty Kilmer. Not only is super ass annoying he is almost always inaccurate and misinforming people about things just like you’ve pointed out over and over. I have a 2011 S550 4MATIC that has been nothing but lovely. I did have to replace amd air strut yet. But that is because I hit a pothole that was hidden underwater on a rainy day. Not Mercedes’s fault not really my fault but just a sucky situation. Do I hate the car now and think it’s a pile of crap?? Absolutely not. I also drive a 1999 S500 Grand Edition. Yes the infamous nineteen-nineties S Class the W140. The car that people say makes Mercedes mechanics, both dealer and Indy, crawl. It currently has 163,000 miles on it. It’s has been a true joy to own. It’s not all that scary to work on. I did a complete tuneup on it all by myself at the house with zero issues or hesitations. But it’s been very well cared for by me and its previous owner. So because of that it’s also been as reliable as any Lexus LS I’ve owned in years past.
I love Scotty i feel personally attacked lol
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scotty talks like a hysterical woman. hate hearing him. I am a mercedes tech for over 28 years. I just replaced the l side fuel level sender on a w207 with 68k miles. It was spraying fuel everywhere due to bad plastic same as the prior 4 i did this year. i can say that inmo the mercedes engineers are waging a war against mechanics. I love my miata far more than I like my r230. from what I am seeing is that Mercedes is making poor quality cars that are very difficult to repair. My goal is to buy a 03-06 cl65 amg mechanic special. that is the one thing I like about my job is getting mechanic specials for pennies that cost as much as a home new. I can sat that my w126 om617 was a very well built car and what is being made now is not the quality of that 1982 300sd that I drove on used atf for 200k miles.
You can't beat old Mercedes. I remember the mileage badges on old Mercedes. Now you see a newer Mercedes with that many miles and you just think to yourself, "what a piece of shit".
Just pray the turbo coolant seals on the CL65 don't give out any time soon.
I have to agree with you on at least one thing...I love my Dodge grand caravan overall far more then I love my R129. Also, IMO I would agree with Scotty on at least ONE thing ....UNLESS you are a MBZ Tech or a MBZ DIY person " they ARE a money pit".
@@rioraton they're a money pit no matter who you are 😂😂😂
@@rioraton i also want a 600 r129
@@FriendlyMBTech i still have an om617 sitting around
False diffuser and false exhaust. Wtf Mercedes!
I would NEVER own a Mercedes. Way too expensive to repair. German crap.
You're telling me lol. It's the basis for my channel 🤣
@@FriendlyMBTech they used to not be crap, 30 years ago it was the car to have, what happened? didnt Daimer/Chrysler buy them? IDK
No, Scotty Kilmer is not full of crap, and neither is The Car Wizard.
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what? Car Wizard is great, got to meet him and he couldnt have been nicer, and he knows what he is doing
@PolPotsPieHole It's difficult to tell sarcasm over text. I'm not sure if he was serious or not. The Car Wizard seems to know what he's talking about more than Scotty Kilmer. I haven't watched a lot of his videos so I'm neither here nor there about him. What I have seen of his about MB is opinion based and I'm not here to sway someone's opinion. I'm here to correct bad information.
@@FriendlyMBTech Yes I know,lol. I love car channels glad I stumbled into yours, this has been fun, lol.Thanks for responding, and I subscribed.....keep em coming
@PolPotsPieHole thank you for responding back and thank you for subscribing!
Scotty for the win
Mercedes= Money traps, money pits
That's not the argument. The issue was the misinformation in his video.
@@FriendlyMBTech so you agree though, they are money pits?
@@PolPotsPieHole I have an old one. I've spent more on that car than any car I have ever owned. I have intimate knowledge of how much of a money pit they can be.
@@FriendlyMBTech I have a MINI and that thing is a money pit. Truth be known any car can be a money pit. I have a JEEP too, Just empty each pocket, lol, never seen anything like it
@@PolPotsPieHole I've had a Jeep also. Same thing.
While I enjoy some of Scotty's videos and am thankful for many of his tips, when it comes to Mercedes he is clearly quite biased (and biased the other way for Toyota). As with any auto manufacturer, some models have more problems than others. The newer GLE/GLC/GLS models have already become notorious for issues (although those rear tires are sweet to look at). Way to pick the seemingly worst model they make, Scotty. I won't go off about some of Japan's absolute trash models, but it's common among all companies to have some bad eggs (including his bff Toyota). And, as mentioned in the video, a historic event is far different from a current code. As also mentioned, when there are that many it's usually from one incident causing a domino effect, which may simply be someone unhooked the battery slowly. This does not mean 25 issues or even necessarily any issues, for that matter. That's just a false narrative and Scotty must know that with the amount of experience he has. His bias rears it's ugly head again.
Now, I'll hear complaints about the GLC/S/E models all day with some sympathy at least, but his trash talk about the Gen 1 CLS is just a sad display of his outright bias. The W219 is one of the most iconic and amazing chassis Mercedes ever built. Isn't it something that literally every other car company (including Toyota) did their best to copy it's insanely unique design? It's not just pretty, either. The CLS 55 AMG outperformed it's 2-door SL counterpart at the Nurburgring, which is widely known as one of the most monstrous cars to come out of the 2000s. Also, it's interesting he shows a CLS 550 badge after showing a CLS 500 (M113) engine. The Gen 1 CLS 550 was equipped with the M273 engine. Not even the same car? Badge swap? What gives?
"Could you imagine when it's 5 or 6 years old?" Yes, yes I can. My current baby is 16 and my previous babies are now as old as 41 and still on the road in great shape. Mercedes are built for life, at least they certainly used to be. I'm not convinced any new car is built to last beyond 10 years. But at least Mercedes will sell parts for them forever (or as long as they exist). You can walk into a Merc dealer right now and get a control arm for an '82 SEC. Try asking any Japanese dealer for 40 year old parts. GL.
130k miles on my 16 year old CLS 550 and it has ZERO issues. The windows going up and down when opening/closing the doors is a great feature to save the window seal and have it seal tight, given that the car is a 4-door coupe (no frame around the windows). They've never failed. I've replaced suspension parts, brakes, oil, filters, tires, plugs, coils, and the CDs in the 6-disc changer that's ingeniously hidden in the dash. That's it. I've never had a more reliable car. It also smokes most Corvettes (especially on the highway), holds 4 people in a luxury interior, and is smooth enough at ludicrous speed to serve tea in the back seat. Good luck with that in a Toyota.
I would also be remiss to not mention the 4-piston Brembo brakes this CLS is equipped with that stop the car on a dime, almost literally (and btw the AMGs have even crazier 8-piston Brembos with 4 pads per caliper!). I found this out recently when a family of deer ran out of the woods right in front of me. I went from 50mph to 0mph so fast that the air in my body kept going while my body stopped and left me breathless, as if I had the wind knocked out of me. No squeal, no ABS, the car just stopped as close to instantly as you can possibly imagine. If I had a Corolla for that event I'd now have a totaled Corolla, or at least the insurance company would, and I might be dead. If I was in my truck, I'd now have a totaled truck, but I'd probably be alive at least. However, since I drive a car that's built to PERFORM (not just go A to B without breaking too often) it was a non-event that I can laugh about now. Safety and performance matter a lot more than cost of maintenance or profit on resale. I understand why some, like Scotty, may disagree. However, I'm sure my kids, who still have a living father on earth (thanks to God and this car), do agree.
And yes, Mercedes' do devalue quite a bit over time, due to the fact that repairs are expensive when done by a dealer. However, that's not a problem, that's a gift to humanity! It means you can get a CLS 550 luxury coupe in mint condition for less than Scotty paid for his Corolla (or any other Toyota he's ever owned). And if you do your own work, it probably costs less to maintain than a Toyota that has to go to a dealer for maintenance. This is a win-win situation. If you don't want your car to devalue then don't buy a new one, this goes for all manufacturers.
Lastly, all those control modules he mentions, well they just make it super easy to diagnose almost any issue with the Mercedes STAR/Xentry diagnostic system. While Mercedes and the like seem to have gone a bit overboard with some of these modules in recent years, the late 90s through early 2010s models seem to be a sweet spot for diagnosis procedures on Mercs. While I'm not surprised a mechanic with 50 years experience (meaning he's probably at least 70 years old) wouldn't want to learn how to use a laptop with 'fancy' software and instead quit working on Mercs (Scotty's buddy story), it's pretty easy for anyone with average tech skills. Scotty and his friend can crawl around underneath their Toyotas on some nice, cold concrete floors getting sore and dirty all they want. Meanwhile, I'll plug in my laptop, have a coffee in my luxury interior, and probably find/resolve the issue 10x faster by simply lifting a few fingers. Enjoy the floor, Scotty! #WorkSmarterNotHarder
"Is scotty kilmer full of crap?"
No. But u r.
How so?
@@FriendlyMBTechscotty isnt 100% correct all the time. Us car guys already know this. But for the most part scotty is right and has over 50+ years of experience n tells it like it is. U on the other hand work for mercedes and have a bias to defend them. Yes if ur a master mechanic fot mercedes im sure u r very capable as a technician but scotty is still a valuable asset to the car community.
@webguy943 I'm not defending Mercedes-Benz. As a technician, I know more than most people how expensive and rubbish they can be. Nothing I said in the video is untrue. Codes don't equal problems. Just because a code is present, doesn't mean a repair is needed. Rotors don't need to be replaced every time pads need to be replaced. Washer reservoirs don't leak because of the cap. Any claims to the contrary are ludicrous and false. I'm not saying I know everything or that I am never wrong. I don't need 50 years experience to know those claims are misinformation.
Don't be hating on my boy Scotty
Scotty Kilmer is full of crap in general not just about Mercedes
I can only speak for the Mercedes videos. Anything else, I'd be full of crap on.
Scotty is a repair shop owners worst nightmare! This guy must own his own shop!
Scotty “Klick Bait Kilmer” is generally just full of (besides crap) himself.
Yank me fan.....say no more
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No! He is not ! Mercedes are crap to work on,
Most of them end up in the junk yard with low
miles . parts are expensive, electronics are crap
As well. Based on my experience.
If anything I said in the video is incorrect, please let me know. I'm not saying Mercedes vehicles don't have their issues. I'm saying the information given in his video inaccurate.
Yes thank you! He are wrong so many time and compare thing that do not compare... You cant take seriously anything he said
"He are wrong so many time"...
@@matthewronsson ita my 3rd language... Sorry if it offend you
I am so sorry, but if you spend $150,000.00 on a car..... it's not acceptable to have a problem, any problem at alllllllll.
It should be covered by Mercedes 100% for at least 5 years, in my opinion.
The factory is between Birmingham and Tuscaloosa, and it is very impressive, I have been there. It was a very positive thing for the Alabama economy when it was built in.... 1993. Thirty years ago. 😮
Scotty is a little hard to take initially, but do your homework. As a child, he was a mathematical prodigy and has a extremely high IQ.
This is just one video. It's sort of like you saying " the car might have only coded one time"
He has tons more.
He is very facted based in his detailed videos of the history of all vehicles and doesn't have any manufacturer sponsors.
Look it up.
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What did you say the labor fee was for one hour of service at a Mercedes dealership?
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Listening to Scotty about cars is a mistake.
He's incredibly unprofessional and lacks enough knowledge of current cars. He is scared of multiple computers in cars.
I have seen him do "repairs" on a gravel driveway letting dirt and gravel into areas that need to be clean.
As far as suspension for MB, they are very easy to work on and good aftermarket are just as good as OEM and way cheaper. I can change a front strut on many Mercedes in less than an hour on my driveway and basic hand tools
He is just too intimidated by these cars due to ignorance.
Mercedes are expensive and designed to be for the people who can afford them to brag about the purchase which comes with a service warranty package. Generally speaking, they pay a lot for every last piece, every last every last mile
I brag about how stupid I am for spending as much as I have 🤣🤣🤣