Thinking About The Ancient Antikythera Workshop - Experimental Archaeology
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- G'day folks,
In this latest Fragments video I have a go at recreating some aspects of the #Ancient #Workshop that are indicated in the mechanism. Do please enjoy!
Cheers,
Chris.
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Research sources/References:
An Archaic metallurgical workshop in Thasos Greece the case of Charitopoulos plot - bit.ly/3mLpbsh
An experimental study of early bronze smithing techniques - bit.ly/3Dz2ttq
An experimental study of some early copper smithing techniques - bit.ly/3jssBxT
Examination of Greek bronze helmets : sampling and project design - bit.ly/3Dz2L3u
Experimental archaeometallurgy in perspective - bit.ly/38uNLoY
From Homer to Hoplite: Scientific Investigations of Greek Copper Alloy Helmets - bit.ly/3gMp5MY
Experimental simulation study of prehistoric bronze working: Testing the
effects of work-hardening on replicated alloys - bit.ly/38sEE83
Technical Examination of Greek Helmets - bit.ly/3ztjrXz
The Composition of the Copper Alloys used by the Greek, Etruscan and Roman Civilisations, Pt 2 - bit.ly/3ywPqoC
Towards an Appreciation of Minoan Metallurgical Techniques - bit.ly/3mO0ICx
Oikos and Oikonomia: Greek houses, households and the domestic economy - bit.ly/3yIkD8t
House and Society in the Ancient Greek World - bit.ly/3zxQji1
Water Management in Ancient Greek Cities - bit.ly/3ysSOAB
A Companion To Greek Architecture - bit.ly/3zxImcp
The Greek house and the ideology of citizenship - bit.ly/3kIANJM
A review of courtyard house: History evolution forms, and functions - bit.ly/3DyqJM7
Fire and smoke: hearths, braziers and chimneys in the Greek house - bit.ly/3t257CY
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I swear watching him blend brass pins into other brass components is like the ultimate black magic to me.
I might have to go watch the clock playlist again :)
We need to have a battle between Clickspring and Baumgardener Restorations.
@@JohnDlugosz Lol, I'm just watching that now.
Add Alec Steele in to the mix.
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honestly, watching those pins just disappear is the most satisfying thing ever
Ya, but have you seen my pre-historic workshop? It's just a cave that I walk around in. Some would say I am a meanderthal.
I laughed waaaay too hard at that, even harder when I saw who said it.
Oh hand tool, you know you rushed to his new episode just as fast as us you awesome caveman.
Meanderthal...I see what you did there. Think I'm going to have to "borrow" (coughcoughbullshitcough) that one. :-D
When they showed you the light did you walk out or keep believing in the shadows?
I thought having a pun in Canada required a license....
Welcome back Chris, everything will be alright with the world for the next 19 minutes.
Brazil may be at the verge of a military coup d’etat, but not in these 19 minutes
Dear R. 1st
Even longer because ABBA is reunited!!! ;-)
Best regards, luck and health.
The world is healing and all it took was a "g'day, Chris here".
I know, right? It's like when there's been a constant annoying noise you forget about and only notice when it stops.
The world's a better place with Chris doing his thing in it.
I got tingles when he said that.
All we need now is an appearance from This Old Tony. Things will be set right then.
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Good to see you posting again!
The Beacon of Gondor is lit!
I saw the first episode of this series and was about to start my first day at uni. Now I am still watching this series except haven completed a mechanical engineering degree.
Great to see you back, Chris! You’ve been missed.
He really has
5 years from now, when this thing is finished, it's going to belong in a museum as much as the original. Masterpiece!
Wonder what Value it will have.
Being so precisely made?
Not that this is about financial gain.
This mechanism is built as close as we can tell to the original almost a copy of the original.
Priceless?
@@stuartd9741 basically yes since it doesn't only involve a recreation as close as possible to the original mechanism but also is sort of a case study on how it might have been built without access to any power tools. ofc he does use them but only after having a go with his selfmade more primitive tools to proof it CAN be done without machining. the craftsmanship and time going into this thing is insane still. you have to really wonder how long it took quite some people to build the original mechanism back in their day since they couldn't speed up the process with a little machining here and there.
@@Dunkelelf3
Indeed.
I won't begrudge Chris for using machinery as it's all about the passion.
Even thou he uses modern technology.
At least 70% is done traditionally.
The attention to detail is indeed insane and patience of a saint!
...
It does go to show the meticulous methodology required to build the mechanism let alone during millennia ago.
I would disagree on the no power tools
It is conceivable, the ancient Greeks used water wheels to power a lathe via pulleys and belts.
Or use livestock (ox) to rotate large pulleys again to power tools.
This is how they lifted sandstone blocks when building medieval cathedrals.
Thou there were "hamster" type wheels humans walked in (circles) to do the same when at height and some churches are + 250ft high.
Point being, machinery is possible without water power or fire.
We just haven't found any examples around the ancient Greek period sadly.
Also have to consider the techniques used to build the pyramids too.
@@stuartd9741 well i'm not saying they didn't have the technology to build things. neither am i saying they didn't have some form of machinery. what i'm saying is that they didn't have the precission machinery like a lathe and whatnot he is using that can cut a rod of brass down to an exact diameter within seconds. something that would take forever to do by hand and even then would be nowhere near as perfect.
the thing really isn't only the mechanism itself but also the amount of astronomical knowledge that went into this machine so that it was able to predict future solar eclipses hundreds of years into the future and basically was an analog computer or really a model of the solar system for solar and lunar events aswell as the 5 known planets. the amount of precission required is insane and it is even more mindblowing that it was done with far more primitive tools than we would have at our disposal today.
@@Dunkelelf3 I agree.
I know you wasn't suggesting ancient Greeks didn't have machinery.
I was just putting some ideas out there that could have been used.
The astronomical knowledge required to build the mechanism is truly mind blowing.
Suggesting many years of study.
It is conceivable they had a rudimentary pedal type lathe that spun 180° in either direction via pedal power.
Thou I do wonder how or what form shape the smelted brass took.
They didn't have rod or plate brass .
The more one delves into the mechanism the more complex it becomes on so many levels.
I just realized how much I appreciate your cadence and tempo of the way you speak, it allows you to present the information in a satisfying and detailed way.
I watch a lot of videos on 1.25x-2x speed, but with Clickspring I can't. Not because I can't understand him that way, but because it feels wrong. His calm delivery is so soothing. I'd be missing out.
I love how he goes right into it, like it hasn't been 14 years since his last video!
I see this video is unlisted. I got here from the Casting a Roman Oil Lamp video. This was a suggestion in the top right corner. Sorry for being here Early!
Great to have you watching Sam :)
My dad and I have watched this series since the first episode. This if the first that’s came out while I’ve been away at university and I can’t wait to call and talk to him about it.
I have waited so long for this!! i'm fascinated by this whole series, the process is such a beautiful one to witness. Keep them coming!!
There are just so many reasons that this is the best series ever uploaded that I cannot even pick a single one.
Just when the world needed him the most, he returned!
So true!
@Pablo Estafez
The truth is out there.
@Pablo Estafez That's a legitimate hypothesis; except that it doesn't account for one detail...
Look at the quality of Chris' work.
No matter how over budget or over due, you don't find that comming out of a government programme. ;-P
There just aren't enough words to describe how much I appreciate every single aspect of these videos.
The ne plus ultra of TH-cam content, one guy said. +1
Please put all of these together as some sort of complete documentary once you've completed the build. This has been an incredible journey you've allowed us to follow along with.
I agree
I so agree with this. I'd buy that!!!
I would definitely buy that
He does a complete video, or at least he did with the clock, when the project is done.
of course he will, the real challenge is you living old enough to see that happen
Welcome back, its great to hear the words 'G'day Chris here" after so long! Your work is so thorough that it is more impressive than a PhD thesis.
He took such a long break from videos on Antikythera 'cause he made some new discovery about the mechanism while studying it and took time off to write a paper about it, so yeah... fits with the PhD thesis :))
Ayyy he's back! :D
It's fun watching these as a manufacturing student and seeing how much some of our processes have progressed, and how little other have changed.
Ahhh, the beguiling voice of the master maker.
Everything else is forgotten as you take us into your wonderful world.
Thank you Chris.
Wahoo!! You're back! I'm so happy that you're are continuing 🥰
Chris, totally unrelated (sorry). My brass scriber is my favorite tool. It was one of my first lathe projects years ago and to this day make me happy when I use it! Thank!!
So pleased to hear that mate :)
That was the longest wait ever....! So glad to see you back!
I was wandering in the hot desert, dying of thirst, and finally a glass of cool, clear water! Thanks!
I just wanted you to know that the timing of this video is perfect. My father in law just passed away and we used to watch your channel together. This is what I needed. Thank you sir.
Beautiful. Thank you Chris.
Oh shit, this jumps all my queues and watch laters!
Perhaps the mechanism was someone's masterpiece, taking a while year to really be complete while inventing new tools and processes along the way.
Now you are following the steps. And the series turn into a research project and documentary. You can feel the passion.
The most satisfying part is always how the pins get driven through the parts, and just melt into it after the fine work. Being practically invisible
It was made in China
@@DirtyRobot proof?
19 minutes has never gone by this quickly, can't wait for the next video 😭
He, is, back! As if he was never gone! Love it!! Thanks for coming back! We all missed you!!
This is the hit of the good stuff I needed to start my day.
You are a singularly wonderful light in an otherwise terrible past two years
I come in from spending three hours working on one mortise and Tenon for a Barn I'm building and see this video. What I consider tight tolerances are nothing compared to this mastery of precision. I love these videos.
This Antikythera Mechanism has fascinated me since the day I first found out about it, I'm glad your still working on it and showing us all these cool techniques.
1901... ah yes, I remember it like it was yesterday.
Amazing video series. The Antikythera reconstruction is amazing! Ancient humans were so much smarter than we assume.
I have never clicked on a video so fast! 11 seconds! Your videos are amazing and I love how this is informing real academic research!
The gold standard! Always inspiring. I need more!
Going on seven years and it's still such a gift when a new video is shared. 🙂👍🤝
Now this is how you make history interesting for engineers!
This is an absolutely legendary video series, thank you
Bloody hell, I’d forgotten how much I enjoy just listening to THAT voice… and then there’s the content 😎
I’ve been having the worst day, but seeing a new video has totally upped my mood! Thanks Chris 🥰
Same here!
@@sketchstuffs was literally soooo excited when I saw the notification 🤩🤩🤩
Just incredible. Thank you for taking us all along.
The finest creator of our lifetime.
👍👍
I'm so glad it's finally back
YES! Chris your back!! Well done, I cannot wait for more build videos!
Chris! Amazing to see you back! So after Covid is over I'll come down to Oz and we'll build that ancient workshop, right? Looks like an amazing place to work out of, with maybe one or two modern amenities built in 😉
over? LOL........
It would make it easier to think of the challenges of ancient antiquity while working in an “ancient” workshop
Covid....over? Oh my sweet summer child, I have some bad news for you.
You might be better off ducking back into your own workshop and making a video of your own mate
Crossover with Primitive Technology? th-cam.com/channels/AL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA.html
Leave No Trace gets a whole new dimension after watching your videos! The parts seem to be glued one while you riveted it.
really loved this one with the context of the architecture and workday, so good ;__;
It makes you envy a simpler, quieter shop and the warmth of natural fire.
I swear to god you have me to thank for these videos. The last 2 have been released later the same day I searched TH-cam to see if any new ones had been released.
Such a pleasure to watch your work.
The King has returned! And he brought a historical conjecture! I’m so happy!
Yay! It's great seeing you back!
glad you're back. can't wait to see the continuation of this series.
Simply amazing clean work and thank you for the speculative lesson on the workshop side of the making.
I love the way you transport us into the past with this series.
Great video as always!
I loved your clock series (it's still something I put on when I want something relaxing to watch, must have seen it a couple dozen times by now) but this series is so much cooler because of your exploration of the ancient metal working techniques and insights into the craftsmen of the time.
These are the best videos on youtube! Hands down, I would give my left leg to have that artwork in my house.
This was fantastic and extremely informative. Id love a similarly in-depth video on how ancient workers could have prepared stock precisely. I feel like the large flat plates present a huge technical challenge, but also becoming easy to take for granted once a manufacturing technique is established.
This right here. Throughout all these videos, this is an aspect that has yet to be addressed.
It may be something that is not worth going into- maybe slaves just hammered stock “flat enough” and the master craftsman just knew which parts of the piece of plate to use for a given part, in much the same way a good cabinet maker knows which piece of a board to use.
All of the roughness of hand-wrought stock would be worked away in the finishing/polishing process anyway.
Never mind, that’s the answer.
Your conclusion really sums up why this is such a satisfying project to witness. The forming and cutting of these parts required the same level of quality and precision then as it does now. The connection of science and craft between millennia is a delight to witness.
I’m always so excited at every upload this is one of the coolest projects I’ve ever seen
I'm glad to see you back I love watching the videos and learning about how they made everything in the past
Always so grateful to see another new Clickspring video! The work you put in is always so absolutely immense, you're an inspiration to so many.
I had forgotten the warm and fuzzy feeling of excitement I get starting to watch your videos. Thank you!
Huzzah! Another video! It is a glorious day!
With all our modern technology and precision around us, its easy to overlook how far simple hand tools and some ingenuity can take us. This series is really eyeopening in that regard. Experimental archeology at is finest!
Glad you're healthy and back.
Great to see a new episode in this series, here's to hoping that it will be completed.
Every time we get a scene of the "ancient" workshop I am instantly reminded of videos of modern day workshop videos from India, Pakistan and other countries from that region. The feel is the same. And I've seen most of the tools mentioned here in one or another of those videos, even the post anvil. Including an innovation from one of the craftsmen, where they stuck some of the post anvils into circular weights that look like millstones. So that they could roll them around for portability.
I can't tell you how happy I am to have you back doing longer segments and back to building this amazing tool. Of all of the youtube builder I watch you are my favorite. looking forward to more.
Glad to see another upload Chris! Always look forward to these 😄
Fantastic Chris! Good to see the series continuing
So glad to see this series back! It had never occurred to me before this video that sturdy, flat tables are a technology.
Great to see you back Chris. incredible work as always and so relaxing to watch. Thanks
This was out of the blue for me! Like all your other videos it was a great treat I just love to indulge in. Mixing it with speculative history just puts it over the top for me!
There's profound peace in even watching the creation of beauty. Thank you so much for teaching us how to bring forth evidence in a most convincing and peaceful manner.
Good to hear your voice again Chris, looking forward to the rest of the build 🛠👍🏻💚
OMG, so happy to hear your voice again Chris! I have missed you and your vids.
Litterally waited patiently for over 18 months for this and it’s just as brilliantly edited and produced as ever.
So great to hear your voice again Chris! Excited!
Chris, this made my day. Thanks!
Hey, I was recently reading a quote from Dr. Adam Wojcik whose a co-authors of the recent Nature article "A Model of the Cosmos in the ancient Greek Antikythera Mechanism." He was saying that one of the current challenges is to "prove its feasibility by making it with ancient techniques"... Looks like you're well on the way to proof that point for him! Good on ya!
Good to see you again. I had been enjoying this immensely. Glad to see you carrying forward with it. I'm looking much forward to seeing it completed.
When the world needed him most, he returned.
Thank you Chris, good to see you back!
It's great hearing you back!!!
Just when we need him most... HE'S BACK! Amazing as always!
What a great surprise! I love this series and I’m looking forward to the next installment.
Amazing work as ever, simply beautiful.
I love these bedtime stories! Peaceful. Everything is right in my world for 19 minutes
I have missed these longer format videos so so much, as well as your patience and precision in your craft. I'm currently in the Melbourne lockdown, and this video has just made it worth while 😊. Much love, respect and stay safe
I almost cried when i heard that magical, voice. Its been TOO long since ive had my therapeutic g'day chris here
When Clickspring releases a new Video, everything else goes in the waiting queue.
Another amazing Video, worth the wait!
I'm shocked at how well the pumice-charged soaked leather works as an abrasive paper! Glad to have you back for these full videos; I'm very excited to learn all these tidbits of useful and interesting information (to go along with the history and your soothing presentation, of course!)
Oh how I've missed these videos. What a great look into the past! Thank you for yet another wonderful video.
The more this project and work goes on, the more fascinated and in love with this device I become
So excited to see a long video!! Love the shorts too. Your craftsmanship is truly a level above!
Absolutely love these episodes! So enthralling to watch you meticulously craft this stuff and the soothing informative voice ontop. Can't wait for the next episode!
Thanks for the escape into the past. Great stuff as usual and very much appreciated sir!!!
Your insight, intuitiveness, patience, and meticulous approach in applying your skills are (for me) a very positive inspiration. Thank you and best wishes.
I’ve never had a stranger greeting me make me feel as complete as you. Welcome back! I’m excited to see this project through