This, it's also a good call generally to any character that has a frame 1/2 aerial, as they will likely spam this move to break combos. For example, it's possible to charge Kirby's hammer flip to punish a baited Rebel's Guard from Joker mid-combo. Risky, but a massive reward if you pull it off, and very easy if your opponent spams it to break combos
swordfighter is considered very mediocre due to him relying on gimmicks and otherwise being extremely basic and worse than almost every other swordfighter, tornado is easy to deal with in neutral and his sword is not all that big :I
yoshimanrpg Not all habits are bad, part of the game is training yourself to know exactly what to do and how to do it when under certain conditions or in other words, A HABIT
Corrin: using side-b too much, it was amazing in Sm4sh but it is very punishable now Wii Fit Trainer: maybe not a bad habit, but watch out for 3, count em, 3 spikes (side-b, dair, back of fair)
Note: You won't be put to sleep if you shield Sing - it only keeps hitting your shield at delayed intervals - so don't be afraid to punish it OOS as soon as you block it. If Jigglypuff camps at the ledge, jump in with a spike (Cloud f-air) or b-air to negate it. Also, note that Bowser's up-b has a short range despite being a great OOS option. Cloud's b-air is exceptional at contesting it if spaced, and most - if not all - other swordies benefit from out-spacing it as well. If you don't have a ranged option, look for something safe to pressure with, but don't be reckless. You may also bait it out or tomahawk grab.
@@truepotatoking7486 "Nearly" isn't "entirely," you know. I've blocked multiple hits of it before - up-b OOS has been serviceable on several occasions - but maybe Sing threaded some sort of needle. Shields basically become bucklers, Smash is weird like that.
As a Puff main, most mid-level Puffs (in your definition ofc) won’t go for pound on shield to break it. The main reason they use it is that it is a major combo starter, and the real bad habit with Puff side B is that people spam it too much to try and start combos. P.S. Puff mains don’t really go for spotdodge to rest anymore, most raw rests (no combo into rest) are really risky and only beginner puffs who know about it would really go for it. Any half-decent puff would just use Nair because that is ridiculously good OOS option and can punish most moves on shield Great video as alway, Puffy
Sooo useful! A lot of times I'll watch stuff that is pro-level focused, and while interesting and informative- that info ends up being less useful to a low level player such as myself than to someone who enters tournaments. This series is JUST exactly my speed! Please keep going!
The first tip on luigi is so real. I don’t do that (at least anymore) and get 0 to deaths consistently, but when I go online with anyone besides Luigi and gets a luigi, they do exactly that.
I want to point out a bad habit for Pikachu players (as I am one) Pikachu can struggle to kill a lot, so I find a lot of people go into a “kill mode” when the opponent is a high percent. This can include spamming smashes, thunder, non stop landing nair in order to try and fish for nair>down smash, etc.
As a pikachu Main, it's normal for me to kill at 180%, it's annoying that requires combos to do what anyone can do with 2 or 3 moves Also, at that percentage i use the F-air, side-tilt, d-air, or dash attack, even thought it won't kill at 180% So i think Pikachu Is weak
One bad habit new to level shulk mains often have is over use of buster at low percent and smash at high, no matter the consequence (no speed, shield, or jump arts used).
I see speed/shield when the opponent respawns and jump for recovery and speed for horizontal recovery. Some shulks love to pick speed and spam up tilt and fair
If we're talking about low-level Shulk habits, you gotta mention backslash. Extremely punishable on block. Just Shield it. Also, all of his smashes are very punishable on block, even max spaces f-smash. For d-smash, just jump before the third hit connects (if he's facing you)
I never fought a player who didn't know to shield or spotdodge online and you were talking about Quickplay players (at least based on your first video's intro). I also never encountered a Pikachu with the foresight to use Thunder as a combo breaker. The most they ever used it that way was trying to use Thunder when I had an opening to attack but probably would hit them first. Blocking quick attack is useful advice, I suppose, but not as helpful as advice you gave in the first video. On the other hand, the Luigi stuff is pretty good advice, but I often get them slowing me down with fireball (causing a drop from the air) or some aerial before they grab me. Luigi players also tend to be jumping in place until you get close enough for them to attempt grabbing and the aerial wall can be just as menacing. Ness PK Fire DI is actually something I didn't know (I was always SDI'ng), but I don't get why people struggle with Ness PK Fire in the first place. Ness at low levels has almost never done anything in this game to me, it's always Lucas who kills me. Ness's main cheapness comes with the fact that they have way too much kill power, but Wolf is better at that too. I think advice on Falcon up B would be very helpful. That move destroys me and I just feel like I am lucky that they aren't using it. They also don't spam forward air that much and it almost has never hit me out of nowhere so I don't know if lower level players have gotten hit by it much rather than B moves. Good advice on Peach, except I usually find them using side B at ledge, which I can't imagine the counter to because they also are good at countering jump from ledge. Ice Climbers tend to use neutral B when you are across the stage or off stage. I'm not too sure about always landing with down air, but shielding against Sheik is generally a good option as in my experience, even Sheik's aerials are more unsafe than normal on shield (a lot of moves are safer on shield due to shield stun, which usually comes with high damage).
Hey on bowser, you talked about the landing options (I play a decent amount of bowser) and I get every level of Low and mid-tier player (not beginners because they don’t try to shield most of the time) with one thing: I do a few down airs and intentionally hit their shield one time and get punished for it, which makes them think I’m gonna do it every time and that they can freely punish it, then when I see them holding shield I fast fall... down b, break their shield at 30. Then walk them to ledge and fsmash and it kills most of the roster. I get a stock in return for being punished once and most people don’t even adapt. So I can just repeat the process.
Okay, so for Wolf players (mostly from Beginner to Lower-Mid) they're worst habit definitely seems to be landing onstage with Wolf Flash when recovering, which is super exploitable considering its landing lag. Another habit I've noticed is starting every match with a Blaster shot, especially on Battlefield where they almost always laser right after dropping through the platform at the beginning of a match. However, this one isn’t very exploitable, so I don’t know whether it should be mentioned or not.
A habit all Ness players get into is resorting to airdodge to get back to stage. The last thing any Ness wants is to have to use their crappy Up-B recovery, so they’ll almost always attempt to airdodge to ledge. Charge a ledge-encompassing smash attack for early, early kills.
I know it isnt the series you are doing now, but you think you could make a video on these smash terms, like di, sdi, tech, sweetspots? Like a beginner's guide to the terms and cool things outside of the moveset.
This was another great video. Super excited to see what you put for Zelda as she is the character I play by far the most and online Zelda's have millions of bad habits.
The average online Zelda player is super easy to beat. Bait out her specials, which they do almost all the time and play patient with her forcing her to make the first move. A lot of her moves have bad end lag. Good Zelda players are able to utilize those moves into forming traps and setups without the need to spam predictably. I've played a few good Zelda players who do this and I can tip my hat to them when they do.
As a ZSS main let me tell you the problems I see when facing a ditto. Landing with down air at awkward angles, typically leading to suicide. Obsession with taser for neutral B leading room for punish. Tether grab leaving them wide open rather than using it after a combo confirm. Up B on shield leaving area for punish. And last: super predictable flips in too many situations leading to suicide and frame lag punish. I even see pros mess up with this. Including Marss.
Ok as a ness main myself, I feel like one thing you missed is that at zero percent, Ness mains may go for ok for is PK fire to grab +down throw and riding fair. I don't think there's much you can do about it, but just saying that you forgot to mention it. Another thing is his aerials and PK fire to back throw at high percents.
Radwan Abdalla One of my secondaries is Ness and I usually go for up smash from pk fire or if they’re at the edge of the stage I quick turn around down smash and then edge guard
I would say a Bayonetta and her air attacks. She has an INSANE amount of landing lag after using her whole special arsenal, and landing with up air. Extremely punishable for a witch who controls the flow of time.
I’m a pretty good Luigi player, like I can say that I’m a high level player (I go to some tournaments, I’m in elite smash, blah blah) oof I grab a lot at zero but if I don’t get the grab because like the opponent is super fast and my grab grabs at like frame 14 I usually short hop forward air to Nair, or down tilt to grab, or up air to up air to down tilt to grab. But for the second habit I rarely up-b out of shield because it’s s c a r y, but instead I usually up-smash. Also, if anyone there plays Luigi please at like 16 percent do down throw to sh fair to ff Uair to {run up sh Uair to ff Uair} x2 to reverse Uair to Bair! ITS SO GOOD AND most OF IT IS TRUE (its so visually pleasing)
As a bayonetta main, we literally will do anything to catch people. At random we jump abk to catch a jump, and cover that with a landing Nair(punishable), an up b to landing option(more punishable) or even just landing(punishable). If you just hold shield you will be able to hard punish a bayo no matter what she does. We have no combos out of throws and they don't kill until about 200%. Just shield and hold it until we're on the ground or our bullet arts are done
Juggleboy, could you talk to me about my troubles with Miis and Bowser Jr. I was, and still am just temporarily dropping them till I feel better, a main and I have troubles with them. Wish I had more customization with them, more classes, costumes having their own moveset or mix and match. Along with choice of what element you want on whatever move.
*Listen, not talk. Also, there has to be a better way to make a Bowser Jr than put him on a koopa clown and be done with him. Like incorporate his paintbrush as a sword fighter like the Marth clones and artist ability from Star Allies hybrid with his koopa clown as a way to annoy or KO your opponents or to recover. Look at my concept in the Duke of Dorks channel in the Peasants perspective. I think it is the 6th one.
7:43 This is soooooo truthful it's not even funny. From my experience, all Falcon players do at low percents is run right up to you, dash grab, and immediately down throw, even if they get no followups whatsoever (which is likely when at 0%).
Just a tip that used to help me a lot back then. You don't always have to retaliate back when the opponent is pressuring your shield. Depending on the situation it's sometimes better to dash out of the interaction.
Unrelated to the video but what if Sing had a slightly bigger hitbox & could make people people sleep in the air like Hero’s snooze move? (Heh, snooze move, so ridiculous & childish)
Lucina: up b out of shield too much, spamming aerials with bad spacing, using dancing blade way too much Marth: up b oos, spamming aerials with bad spacing, using dancing blade too much, greedy f smashes
@Jayce Z. but winning in the top of elite smash takes some skill to do at least in my experience, people definitely punish hard for missing a high risk move
Ganondorf: spamming Fsmash on the ledge too much, or Landing with downB I think those were my most Two frequent errors at the start of the game Maybe spamming sideB for the Crazy mixup Hope It helped for making the video faster. This One thing Is actually usefull
Ice Climbers edge guarding? Yeah not happening. Most Ice Climbers will be ledge trapping with a desynced down b or a (Nana trump) [FSmash] to be fair though Ice Climbers will be going for Fair at this level. lol. Also Side b will be safe on shield if they cross up or fade back before the last hit.
Spamming Nayru's Love, fishing for sweet spot telefrags, going for up-b out of shield to kill around 70, using phantom at unsafe times, fishing for Fair/Bair, getting overconfident with down air edgeguardung, using dash attack on shield and following with jab, spamming forward smash. Should I go on?
Jackson Robins There are only two types of Zelda. skillful and challenging Zelda’s and Neutral B. For a skillful Zelda I’d say try to pressure them because Zelda’s only two options when getting rushed on is to neutral B or NAir. For a Neutral B spammer I’d say be patient and just notice their mistakes. Cuz they make a lot of mistakes if your looking close enough. If they use neutral B block then grab. And if your characters grab distance is bad or too short then use forward tilt. And if they are really killing you with up B all the time 5en wait for it 5en kill her.
Nintendo Expert 42 as an ike main, i love counter spammers. Nothing like reading a counter at ledge, and landing a forward smash to kill them at 45%. Giving us swordie players a bad rep.
Do you know anything about puff mains? Pound may break shields very early, but we don't fish for shield breaks with it. Generally, fair to pound is going for a rest combo.
some feedback Obviously nobody knows EVERY character so it's hard to get everything spot on, but, sort of like you did before talking about ice climbers, make a statement at the beginning of the video clarifying that you can only know so much. For example I agree with beginner jigglypuff players abusing sing, but in my experience I've never seen someone purposefuly and constantly fishing for shieldbreaks or spot dodge rest (unless they're trying to style). Yes at higher levels of play there are untrue setups into shieldbreak (my personal favorite is drill into fake rest, wait for them to shield and then pound), but you're talking about low-mid level play so that's not an issue. TL;DR, you should telling your audience nothing's spot on.
Juggleboy as for your video, id say the side b habit is on point, but ive never seen anyone spam upsmash like that, the real habit there is spamming upsmash out of shield.
Dude juggleboy i live your vids but nair is spammed way more with puff I'm a puff main myself so ik this they use nair every single time it's predictable and pound also was a good choice but nair should have been included too
A Luigi habit should've been using Cyclone to combo break. Over half of the move is endlag so it's a massive punish.
This, it's also a good call generally to any character that has a frame 1/2 aerial, as they will likely spam this move to break combos. For example, it's possible to charge Kirby's hammer flip to punish a baited Rebel's Guard from Joker mid-combo. Risky, but a massive reward if you pull it off, and very easy if your opponent spams it to break combos
if you think that the opponent is going to bait it out, dont use cyclone.
use nair instead.
Mii swordfighter: exclusively going for kills with tornado to hero spin
(even thought the character has almost too many kill confirms)
Seriously, why is he so slept on
@@Juggleboy because those slope haters be like "Bann him. I don't know his move :'( "
@@Juggleboy all the miis are slept on
swordfighter is considered very mediocre due to him relying on gimmicks and otherwise being extremely basic and worse than almost every other swordfighter, tornado is easy to deal with in neutral and his sword is not all that big :I
Game and Watch: Using Up-B then Down Air
I am sometimes guilty of this but I see a lot of G&W going for only this move
yoshimanrpg HAMMER TIME
Pros get away with it so idk if it’s too bad of a habit.
@@slikmastaz A habit is still a habit. You can't say it's only not too bad
@@yoshimanrpg its a good habit
yoshimanrpg
Not all habits are bad, part of the game is training yourself to know exactly what to do and how to do it when under certain conditions or in other words, A HABIT
Corrin: using side-b too much, it was amazing in Sm4sh but it is very punishable now
Wii Fit Trainer: maybe not a bad habit, but watch out for 3, count em, 3 spikes (side-b, dair, back of fair)
Note: You won't be put to sleep if you shield Sing - it only keeps hitting your shield at delayed intervals - so don't be afraid to punish it OOS as soon as you block it. If Jigglypuff camps at the ledge, jump in with a spike (Cloud f-air) or b-air to negate it.
Also, note that Bowser's up-b has a short range despite being a great OOS option. Cloud's b-air is exceptional at contesting it if spaced, and most - if not all - other swordies benefit from out-spacing it as well. If you don't have a ranged option, look for something safe to pressure with, but don't be reckless. You may also bait it out or tomahawk grab.
Elly Jockey
I lost grand finals at a tourney in my town, because I thought Sing poked my shield. I never dropped it, and it was nearly full.
@@truepotatoking7486 "Nearly" isn't "entirely," you know. I've blocked multiple hits of it before - up-b OOS has been serviceable on several occasions - but maybe Sing threaded some sort of needle. Shields basically become bucklers, Smash is weird like that.
Idk i have never found shielding sing to fail without being at low low shield so
Wait so all this time I was sweating blood trying to SDI out of Ness' PK Fire and you only need to just DI to get out of it? Really? :c
As a Puff main, most mid-level Puffs (in your definition ofc) won’t go for pound on shield to break it. The main reason they use it is that it is a major combo starter, and the real bad habit with Puff side B is that people spam it too much to try and start combos.
P.S. Puff mains don’t really go for spotdodge to rest anymore, most raw rests (no combo into rest) are really risky and only beginner puffs who know about it would really go for it. Any half-decent puff would just use Nair because that is ridiculously good OOS option and can punish most moves on shield
Great video as alway,
Puffy
thank you
Hey, could we play together someday? I also like to play puff
Falcons also love down throw nair. Even if it whiffs for the 15th time from me air dodging in, they still go for it
It’s a combo
Sooo useful! A lot of times I'll watch stuff that is pro-level focused, and while interesting and informative- that info ends up being less useful to a low level player such as myself than to someone who enters tournaments. This series is JUST exactly my speed! Please keep going!
The first tip on luigi is so real. I don’t do that (at least anymore) and get 0 to deaths consistently, but when I go online with anyone besides Luigi and gets a luigi, they do exactly that.
I want to point out a bad habit for Pikachu players (as I am one) Pikachu can struggle to kill a lot, so I find a lot of people go into a “kill mode” when the opponent is a high percent. This can include spamming smashes, thunder, non stop landing nair in order to try and fish for nair>down smash, etc.
As a pikachu Main, it's normal for me to kill at 180%, it's annoying that requires combos to do what anyone can do with 2 or 3 moves
Also, at that percentage i use the F-air, side-tilt, d-air, or dash attack, even thought it won't kill at 180%
So i think Pikachu Is weak
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One bad habit new to level shulk mains often have is over use of buster at low percent and smash at high, no matter the consequence (no speed, shield, or jump arts used).
Or never use the flavors at all
I see speed/shield when the opponent respawns and jump for recovery and speed for horizontal recovery. Some shulks love to pick speed and spam up tilt and fair
If we're talking about low-level Shulk habits, you gotta mention backslash. Extremely punishable on block. Just Shield it. Also, all of his smashes are very punishable on block, even max spaces f-smash. For d-smash, just jump before the third hit connects (if he's facing you)
exceptional as always
Captain Falcons, at least the WiFi ones I’ve faced, love spamming down air as a combo starter, but it’s usually unsafe on shield
Also I really love these videos, they’re so awesome! I like your whole channel, but this little series is super useful!
"If not, the most difficult to master",
cmon Lucario, he didnt mean it that way :(
@streyar Tried both of the characters, Lucario is way harder
I never fought a player who didn't know to shield or spotdodge online and you were talking about Quickplay players (at least based on your first video's intro). I also never encountered a Pikachu with the foresight to use Thunder as a combo breaker. The most they ever used it that way was trying to use Thunder when I had an opening to attack but probably would hit them first. Blocking quick attack is useful advice, I suppose, but not as helpful as advice you gave in the first video.
On the other hand, the Luigi stuff is pretty good advice, but I often get them slowing me down with fireball (causing a drop from the air) or some aerial before they grab me. Luigi players also tend to be jumping in place until you get close enough for them to attempt grabbing and the aerial wall can be just as menacing.
Ness PK Fire DI is actually something I didn't know (I was always SDI'ng), but I don't get why people struggle with Ness PK Fire in the first place. Ness at low levels has almost never done anything in this game to me, it's always Lucas who kills me. Ness's main cheapness comes with the fact that they have way too much kill power, but Wolf is better at that too.
I think advice on Falcon up B would be very helpful. That move destroys me and I just feel like I am lucky that they aren't using it. They also don't spam forward air that much and it almost has never hit me out of nowhere so I don't know if lower level players have gotten hit by it much rather than B moves.
Good advice on Peach, except I usually find them using side B at ledge, which I can't imagine the counter to because they also are good at countering jump from ledge.
Ice Climbers tend to use neutral B when you are across the stage or off stage.
I'm not too sure about always landing with down air, but shielding against Sheik is generally a good option as in my experience, even Sheik's aerials are more unsafe than normal on shield (a lot of moves are safer on shield due to shield stun, which usually comes with high damage).
Hey on bowser, you talked about the landing options (I play a decent amount of bowser) and I get every level of Low and mid-tier player (not beginners because they don’t try to shield most of the time) with one thing: I do a few down airs and intentionally hit their shield one time and get punished for it, which makes them think I’m gonna do it every time and that they can freely punish it, then when I see them holding shield I fast fall... down b, break their shield at 30. Then walk them to ledge and fsmash and it kills most of the roster. I get a stock in return for being punished once and most people don’t even adapt. So I can just repeat the process.
Okay, so for Wolf players (mostly from Beginner to Lower-Mid) they're worst habit definitely seems to be landing onstage with Wolf Flash when recovering, which is super exploitable considering its landing lag. Another habit I've noticed is starting every match with a Blaster shot, especially on Battlefield where they almost always laser right after dropping through the platform at the beginning of a match. However, this one isn’t very exploitable, so I don’t know whether it should be mentioned or not.
A habit all Ness players get into is resorting to airdodge to get back to stage. The last thing any Ness wants is to have to use their crappy Up-B recovery, so they’ll almost always attempt to airdodge to ledge. Charge a ledge-encompassing smash attack for early, early kills.
Nice video
I know it isnt the series you are doing now, but you think you could make a video on these smash terms, like di, sdi, tech, sweetspots? Like a beginner's guide to the terms and cool things outside of the moveset.
there are several of those videos out there, I think e.g. Bananaboy made one a while ago
This was another great video. Super excited to see what you put for Zelda as she is the character I play by far the most and online Zelda's have millions of bad habits.
The average online Zelda player is super easy to beat. Bait out her specials, which they do almost all the time and play patient with her forcing her to make the first move. A lot of her moves have bad end lag. Good Zelda players are able to utilize those moves into forming traps and setups without the need to spam predictably. I've played a few good Zelda players who do this and I can tip my hat to them when they do.
Same thing applies to Link. I main both Link and Zelda.
The biggest Falcon bad habit I noticed at mid level is spamming tons of hitboxes, constantly trying to do something.
Another bad habit with ice climbers is that they will fish for grab at arround about 10%-20% since it gives them a massive window to desync
As a ZSS main let me tell you the problems I see when facing a ditto.
Landing with down air at awkward angles, typically leading to suicide.
Obsession with taser for neutral B leading room for punish.
Tether grab leaving them wide open rather than using it after a combo confirm.
Up B on shield leaving area for punish.
And last: super predictable flips in too many situations leading to suicide and frame lag punish. I even see pros mess up with this. Including Marss.
Ok as a ness main myself, I feel like one thing you missed is that at zero percent, Ness mains may go for ok for is PK fire to grab +down throw and riding fair. I don't think there's much you can do about it, but just saying that you forgot to mention it. Another thing is his aerials and PK fire to back throw at high percents.
Radwan Abdalla One of my secondaries is Ness and I usually go for up smash from pk fire or if they’re at the edge of the stage I quick turn around down smash and then edge guard
Robin: overuse of arcfire. Sure its a good spacing tool, but you have limited arcfires, and its one of your best moves for kill combos.
I think you missed that Falcons always spam down B as well as dash grab
I would say a Bayonetta and her air attacks. She has an INSANE amount of landing lag after using her whole special arsenal, and landing with up air.
Extremely punishable for a witch who controls the flow of time.
I’m a pretty good Luigi player, like I can say that I’m a high level player (I go to some tournaments, I’m in elite smash, blah blah) oof I grab a lot at zero but if I don’t get the grab because like the opponent is super fast and my grab grabs at like frame 14 I usually short hop forward air to Nair, or down tilt to grab, or up air to up air to down tilt to grab. But for the second habit I rarely up-b out of shield because it’s s c a r y, but instead I usually up-smash. Also, if anyone there plays Luigi please at like 16 percent do down throw to sh fair to ff Uair to {run up sh Uair to ff Uair} x2 to reverse Uair to Bair! ITS SO GOOD AND most OF IT IS TRUE (its so visually pleasing)
As a bayonetta main, we literally will do anything to catch people. At random we jump abk to catch a jump, and cover that with a landing Nair(punishable), an up b to landing option(more punishable) or even just landing(punishable). If you just hold shield you will be able to hard punish a bayo no matter what she does. We have no combos out of throws and they don't kill until about 200%. Just shield and hold it until we're on the ground or our bullet arts are done
i main ness and i think that another one should be constantly down throwing trying to combo the opponent
Are you one of those “PK fire pests”?
I hope we get a supercut of the entire series
as a sheik main, I would like to add that, similar to fox, sheik spams nair at kill percents. so watch out for that as well.
A smart luigi tip : replace (super jump punch) with smash attacks
good video, one thing though is that the outro is much louder than the rest of the video
Jigglypuff: mid-levels tend to stop hitting at around 45% to get a u-air into rest true combo.
As an ice climbers player i say the best way to defeat them it's by camping them, and separate them(don't do this this makes me sad).
Great video, thanks for the tips!
Great vid again!
Juggleboy, could you talk to me about my troubles with Miis and Bowser Jr. I was, and still am just temporarily dropping them till I feel better, a main and I have troubles with them. Wish I had more customization with them, more classes, costumes having their own moveset or mix and match. Along with choice of what element you want on whatever move.
*Listen, not talk. Also, there has to be a better way to make a Bowser Jr than put him on a koopa clown and be done with him. Like incorporate his paintbrush as a sword fighter like the Marth clones and artist ability from Star Allies hybrid with his koopa clown as a way to annoy or KO your opponents or to recover. Look at my concept in the Duke of Dorks channel in the Peasants perspective. I think it is the 6th one.
7:43 This is soooooo truthful it's not even funny. From my experience, all Falcon players do at low percents is run right up to you, dash grab, and immediately down throw, even if they get no followups whatsoever (which is likely when at 0%).
Or they start with a falcon kick
Falcon gets a follow up from down throw to nair
I feel like G&W goes for Up-B out of anything really often. I don't know how to punish it, but you can try an anti-air option.
You should make this a playlist now
_When you are good at overusing Luigi's up b_
Just a tip that used to help me a lot back then. You don't always have to retaliate back when the opponent is pressuring your shield.
Depending on the situation it's sometimes better to dash out of the interaction.
Unrelated to the video but what if Sing had a slightly bigger hitbox & could make people people sleep in the air like Hero’s snooze move?
(Heh, snooze move, so ridiculous & childish)
Mmmm.... Maybe with Jigglypuff, or all characters... you could just space on shield. Just a thought.
As an Isabelle main, I have heavily relied on fishing rod and not enough slingshot and loid traps.
Lucina: up b out of shield too much, spamming aerials with bad spacing, using dancing blade way too much
Marth: up b oos, spamming aerials with bad spacing, using dancing blade too much, greedy f smashes
Now to support every video until he gets to Isabelle so I can learn about the bad habits I already know I have.
To bring justice to all my fellow Jigglypuff mains,
that is definently not what we do. ever
@Jayce Z. In elite, you only use it in neutral if you attempt to read a dash attack
@Jayce Z. but winning in the top of elite smash takes some skill to do
at least in my experience, people definitely punish hard for missing a high risk move
Wait you can PUNISH SPAM?!
Who woulda thunk it
I don’t really use side b as Peach/Daisy, funny enough. I’m not a Peach main, but she’s one of my pockets.
This video made me subscribe
Ganondorf: spamming Fsmash on the ledge too much, or Landing with downB
I think those were my most Two frequent errors at the start of the game
Maybe spamming sideB for the Crazy mixup
Hope It helped for making the video faster. This One thing Is actually usefull
You're not mentioning the spam of Bowser side b? My friend almost exclusively looks for side b and down air.
Conrad Cooper if the spam down air, grab a character with a counter and fuck their shit up.
Bowser also want to side b a lot
watch him not do the Miis because no one plays them online and the only ones that do are the funi sans memetic.
remember when thunder dint go trough platform?
Yes do one video on pk fire. There are never too many videos on this. Please and thank you.
bowser mains spam a LOT side b but, you didnt put it?
I keep thinking juggle boy's pfp is Sonic doing a weird face... Why.. idk.
7:05 lol this move is broke
Drill Rest: *exists*
Jigglypuff: no
Aren’t we forgetting about Sheiks spamming down-b?
Thank you
Make a video about how to avoid pk fire
Wait I didn't know you could do spotdodge to rest I shoud do that moree
@Justin Zurawski ur genius
a bad peach habit is spamming dash attack
Ice Climbers edge guarding? Yeah not happening. Most Ice Climbers will be ledge trapping with a desynced down b or a (Nana trump) [FSmash] to be fair though Ice Climbers will be going for Fair at this level. lol. Also Side b will be safe on shield if they cross up or fade back before the last hit.
Clicks on video goes to ness section
Do pit/dark pit
Part 3 of this has to start with Zelda.
Spamming Nayru's Love, fishing for sweet spot telefrags, going for up-b out of shield to kill around 70, using phantom at unsafe times, fishing for Fair/Bair, getting overconfident with down air edgeguardung, using dash attack on shield and following with jab, spamming forward smash. Should I go on?
Using Din's Fire on any situation
@@ninjagaro. I see this a lot in ffa, but in 1v1 new players often just spam teleport instead.
Jackson Robins
There are only two types of Zelda. skillful and challenging Zelda’s and Neutral B.
For a skillful Zelda I’d say try to pressure them because Zelda’s only two options when getting rushed on is to neutral B or NAir.
For a Neutral B spammer I’d say be patient and just notice their mistakes. Cuz they make a lot of mistakes if your looking close enough.
If they use neutral B block then grab. And if your characters grab distance is bad or too short then use forward tilt. And if they are really killing you with up B all the time 5en wait for it 5en kill her.
Any swordie: spamming counters
Nintendo Expert 42 as an ike main, i love counter spammers. Nothing like reading a counter at ledge, and landing a forward smash to kill them at 45%. Giving us swordie players a bad rep.
nah, we just spam aerials.
No I was just saying that it's pretty common for low level players who choose swordies love their counters
Mid levels love F-Air's
Do you know anything about puff mains? Pound may break shields very early, but we don't fish for shield breaks with it. Generally, fair to pound is going for a rest combo.
You son of a bitch, you did it again!
Toon Link: Up B OOS
some feedback
Obviously nobody knows EVERY character so it's hard to get everything spot on,
but, sort of like you did before talking about ice climbers, make a statement at the beginning of the video clarifying that you can only know so much.
For example I agree with beginner jigglypuff players abusing sing, but in my experience I've never seen someone purposefuly and constantly fishing for shieldbreaks or spot dodge rest (unless they're trying to style). Yes at higher levels of play there are untrue setups into shieldbreak (my personal favorite is drill into fake rest, wait for them to shield and then pound), but you're talking about low-mid level play so that's not an issue.
TL;DR, you should telling your audience nothing's spot on.
I, a Puff main, only use rest when the opponet is on their last stock. Why did I put this in a comment.
That is not how you spell opponent
literally no ice climbers player uses upthrow ever. what is that footage im actually cringing
I needed to get the opponent in the air to up smash. It was painful to do
Juggleboy as for your video, id say the side b habit is on point, but ive never seen anyone spam upsmash like that, the real habit there is spamming upsmash out of shield.
Dude juggleboy i live your vids but nair is spammed way more with puff I'm a puff main myself so ik this they use nair every single time it's predictable and pound also was a good choice but nair should have been included too
you've heard for this guy, pk fire is punishable now stop harassing ness players
don’t harass the players, harass the mega projectile spammy character
Harass Nintendo for the server
mepphy99 netcode*
@@kingkrispy5289 something that makes lag when i try to Land
mepphy99 That’s either Landing lag or netcode still lol