Lagrange Inversion is wild

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2025

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  • @PapaFlammy69
    @PapaFlammy69  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    *_Thanks for watching my dear flammily members

    • @oni8337
      @oni8337 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nice another epic lagrange inversion theorem video

    • @anshulrai677
      @anshulrai677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice
      FlammyBabaOP

    • @christianpaul3651
      @christianpaul3651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I weiss grad net mer wo I mein Schwonz reinstecka soll ...

    • @galactusthehungry2681
      @galactusthehungry2681 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      another epic video, do you know where I could find the proof? I can't seem to find it anywhere online?

  • @AndrewDotsonvideos
    @AndrewDotsonvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    What’s the theorem? I mean if it’s in physics, it’s invertible, QED.

    • @oni8337
      @oni8337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lol

    • @AndrewDotsonvideos
      @AndrewDotsonvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Kiko Frías Tenza good question. As it turns out, only 4x7 matrices leave the monoidal functor invariant under conformal diffeomorphisms, not to be confused with generators of the poincare unitarity condition.

    • @houseflyer4014
      @houseflyer4014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@AndrewDotsonvideos *nodding my head pretending to understand*

    • @user_2793
      @user_2793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah lol, when dealing with canonical transformations and generating functions, we have to assume so much invertibility.

    • @AndrewDotsonvideos
      @AndrewDotsonvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@houseflyer4014 What I just said was udder nonsense btw.

  • @ShortHax
    @ShortHax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    When Pappy Flammy says something is gonna be wild, your brain is gonna be in for a tough ride

  • @hxc7273
    @hxc7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm so glad we had this theorem or I never would've been able to solve that equation.

  • @alxjones
    @alxjones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Worth pointing out that the series is only guaranteed to have non-zero radius of convergence, i.e. convergence in a neighborhood of f(x_0), and so it doesn't necessarily solve all equations outright. Of course, this is obvious in the sense that f may not be invertible, and certain invertible subdomains may not contain a root. For example, x^3 - 3x + 3 has no roots on (-1,1), so if you chose an x_0 in that interval, your inverse series will not converge at y = 0. However, if you have a decent guess of the root or know that the function is invertible, this method works nicely.

  • @angelmendez-rivera351
    @angelmendez-rivera351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One good and important application of this theorem is to solve quintic equations. Quintic equations cannot be solved using radical functions in general, but they can always be transformed into an equation of the form ζ^5 + ζ + a = 0. By having ζ^5 + ζ = -a, one can use the Lagrange inversion theorem and obtained the solutions to the equation for every complex a. This is used in the definition of the Bring radical, which is an algebraic function that cannot be formed from compositions of radicals and rational functions. In general, this can always be used for any polynomial equation, which helps rather significantly with studying algebraic functions in spite of the Abel-Ruffini theorem.

  • @MathAdam
    @MathAdam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I'll save everyone 18 minutes. The answer is 3. (It took me only 10 minutes to figure it out.)

    • @MeMyselfForWho
      @MeMyselfForWho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      buzzkill

    • @nullplan01
      @nullplan01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The journey is the destination.

  • @timothyaugustine7093
    @timothyaugustine7093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:55 When the chalk hits hard on a bracket with the word "OF" you know the stuff that comes next is bussin'.

  • @GiornoYoshikage
    @GiornoYoshikage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Today I remembered there's something about the theorem in Knuth's "The Art of Programming", checked this, and now I see your video with same subject! What a coincidence!

  • @PlasmaFuzer
    @PlasmaFuzer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome video. You know this was also how I introduced solving linear equations in the Introductory Algebra course I was teaching at my local high school. For some reason, the students had a hard time grasping something so straightforward. I guess I forgot to recommend they bone up on Cauchy's residue theorem and the analyticity of functions before the first day. Oops.

  • @jaykane42
    @jaykane42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm currently learning linear algebra - about to move onto calc 3 when I'm done -. So, I don't fully understand what I've seen in this video. But, of what I do understand, you explained it really well and I found it very interesting! Thanks for making such awesome content and I hope you have a lovely day!

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have a great day too, Jay

    • @redpepper74
      @redpepper74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently doing pre-calc, so I don’t -fully- understand what’s going on here but I _was_ able to use the formula to figure out that when 3x = 6, x = 2. Wild

    • @benjamingurevitch4097
      @benjamingurevitch4097 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redpepper74 I'm also currently doing pre-calc and plan to use this on one of my tests to troll my teacher lol

  • @phyarth8082
    @phyarth8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    0:07 Very good meme dude (thumbs up) It is also circular thinking firs number connected with last one in the sequence of numbers 1+100+2+99+3+98+4+97+5+96+... Analytical continuation 1+2+3+4+5+..+infinity=-1/12. Clock has 12 arrows it is also circular summation of mod(12). In every country we hear Gauss fable in Math class, even it has not historian evidence of existence.

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is great to learn new math theorem!
    I think you should make a series of videoes in this inversion theorem you explained it well

  • @FloThePro1231
    @FloThePro1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of the best videos for a long time, great new topic and learned new way to solve stuff, thank you

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    17:25 Ending
    17:33 Real ending

    • @houseflyer4014
      @houseflyer4014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I see you have blessed the flamily with your presence. Send our regards to Michael Penn 😁

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooooo

  • @CallOFDutyMVP666
    @CallOFDutyMVP666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the knowledge Pappa Flammy! I learned something new every video. Greetings from American

  • @乔峯
    @乔峯 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear sir, could you show us how to derive this Lagrange Inversion Formula? I am unable find it on the website. Thanks & regards.

  • @subhasishguha571
    @subhasishguha571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a physics student, I watched to the end to listen to how he said Lagrange

  • @fakharyarkhan5848
    @fakharyarkhan5848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is pretty cool but what happens if you try to use this on a general quintic polynomial? Would it be impossible to determine what the summation converges to since you can't have a generalized, explicit solution for the quintic polynomial?

    • @PiR2InTheUSA
      @PiR2InTheUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think it will be a generalized expression since it's evaluated at a specific point.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An explicit formula for the roots of a quintic polynomial function does exist. This formula just cannot be written using addition, multiplication, and radical functions alone. You can, however, use the Lagrange inversion theorem, and use the generalized hypergeometric function to express the roots.

  • @nikhilnagaria2672
    @nikhilnagaria2672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:04 that meme tho

  • @Idk-hp3oo
    @Idk-hp3oo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:46 yes papa im interested in Algebruh

  • @MeMyselfForWho
    @MeMyselfForWho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do that for polynomials on both sides?

  • @sharpnova2
    @sharpnova2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Physics and Math Lectures has a two video series that covers the Lagrange Inversion Theorem and uses it to get a Taylor series for W.
    Love your channel bruh but I think Physics and Math Lectures's was a bit cleaner on this topic.

  • @alexismiller2349
    @alexismiller2349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol everytime I learn something, it shows up on your channel in the same week, I swear it's a curse

  • @gdineshnathan
    @gdineshnathan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was expecting a proof of the theorem, anyways great video. Something new!

  • @iplaygrangemusic
    @iplaygrangemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    papa flammy killin' it

  • @humanbeing1213
    @humanbeing1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another awesome video!!!

  • @Deus-Gratia
    @Deus-Gratia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeee watching papa flammy while doing math homework.

  • @nikhilkenvetil1594
    @nikhilkenvetil1594 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That meme in the beginning was wild

  • @tszhanglau5747
    @tszhanglau5747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you can say it's lit
    this video in a nutshell:everything vanishes but the solution

  • @juijani4445
    @juijani4445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:05 -gaud- -gamer- Gauss tier mim

  • @integralboi2900
    @integralboi2900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You lost me at 5:50. I still like these unreasonable ways to deal with simple problem.

  • @soheirmrain975
    @soheirmrain975 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi thanks for your explanation but i have this equation and i don't know how can i solve it ...... 2*cos(x) - beta*sin(x) + beta*sin(alpha*x) = 0 alpha and beta are two parameters
    and i need to solve x
    x=f(alpha,beta)

  • @themightyripples6582
    @themightyripples6582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so good, thank you, to be vague, lol. I wish i could like 3 times.

  • @Eigenbros
    @Eigenbros 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was pretty sweet 👌

  • @muskyoxes
    @muskyoxes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sliding boards made me seasick in part of this

  • @zh84
    @zh84 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was it pouring with rain when you filmed this?

  • @tonaxysam
    @tonaxysam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the "wa~" pronunciation for y

  • @InfiniteQuest86
    @InfiniteQuest86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think if I teach my 9th grader to reproduce this in Algebra 1 when they get this problem, he would get full credit?

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeye, he definitely should tbh

    • @InfiniteQuest86
      @InfiniteQuest86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PapaFlammy69 Yeah sometimes helping with homework can be a little annoying for him. Your teacher only said that's true because you are working in a field. And dang I remember when multiplication was guaranteed to be commutative. Must be nice. lol

  • @syedinayat3548
    @syedinayat3548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LIT GOT mE

  • @JanxakaJX
    @JanxakaJX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Papa you've been hitting the gym harder than my dad hits me! :D

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      not really lol, I hate working out

    • @redpepper74
      @redpepper74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Considering flammy’s reply, it’s good to know your dad doesn’t beat you

  • @Zavstar
    @Zavstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only watch the videos for the memes at the start

  • @glory6998
    @glory6998 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plz teach calculus of variations ....🐸

  • @esraatamdede5550
    @esraatamdede5550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You look tired are ok @Flammable Maths

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeye, just working a bit too much all day long hehe ^^

  • @synesthesia2896
    @synesthesia2896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lost track of things in the first 6 minutes, but nice video anyway

  • @someperson9052
    @someperson9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video has been out for 15 minutes and it already has a dislike. Somebody is subscribed to this channel just so they can immediately dislike. Wtf

    • @someperson9052
      @someperson9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And there are dislikes on every video. I wanna meet these people just to see if they exist

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup, always on time. Someone always dislikes approx. 15- 30min after release lol

    • @sharpman5772
      @sharpman5772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ppl with tiny pp be like

    • @someperson9052
      @someperson9052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sharpman5772 big fax

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PapaFlammy69 Maybe it's a bot. I doubt any human being can actually be that consistent without help from technology. Or maybe I'm underestimating humans.

  • @danielkirilov8065
    @danielkirilov8065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shiii, next time imma blow my professor's mind!!

  • @hardikjoshi8557
    @hardikjoshi8557 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inverse of Lagrange is Gauss😌

    • @luggepytt
      @luggepytt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it's egnargaL

  • @powotode3252
    @powotode3252 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep, I'm lost

  • @Chemasaurus
    @Chemasaurus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fuck, if I had a child in some intro math I'd make them write this for an answer

  • @YitzharVered
    @YitzharVered 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best papa

  • @advaykumar9726
    @advaykumar9726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Has anyone watched mathologers video yet?

  • @mudkip_btw
    @mudkip_btw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh yes I was looking forward to this one! Time to become a real man lol

    • @mudkip_btw
      @mudkip_btw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ah yes, Lagronch

  • @meowwwww6350
    @meowwwww6350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I'm eight

  • @JuanGarcia-ds4sl
    @JuanGarcia-ds4sl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    x-1=2 => x=3 *khaby lame comes in*

  • @rialtho_the_magnificent
    @rialtho_the_magnificent 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    do I hear a robot vacuum in the background rooming your room?

  • @tobybartels8426
    @tobybartels8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're doing too much work here. First you check that it's analytic by finding the Taylor series, then you check that the derivative is non-zero by calculating the derivative. You only need to do one of these! If you can calculate the (complex) derivative, then it's analytic, no need for the Taylor series. Conversely, if you have the Taylor series, then the linear coefficient in the series is the derivative, no need to differentiate it. You're really putting yourself through a lot of extra work for no good reason!

  • @caseyhokanson1844
    @caseyhokanson1844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I’m second

  • @nikhilnagaria2672
    @nikhilnagaria2672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fugacity

  • @adnann5232
    @adnann5232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah I'm first

  • @PixelSergey
    @PixelSergey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    okay papa very epic
    now show us how to get something useful 😠🔫

  • @dizzyd7315
    @dizzyd7315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know a much easier way of solving this equation lol

    • @GammaFZ
      @GammaFZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah this is the most easiest and straightforward, are you denying lagrange's ingenious theorem? He's one of the math GOATs. You should publish your research on arxiv or smth