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- i did buy it from ebay and this was the info that was written
The beginning of the film shows what I believe is Jones Beach on Long Island -- check out the large water tower in the background of some shots. This tower still exists today and is part of the Jones Beach Park.
Also on this reel are images of people ice skating on a huge pond. I originally thought this must be Central Park but the lack of a skyline leads me to believe it is probably also Long Island or perhaps Brooklyn.
Film ends with footage of a football game which appears to be played in a converted baseball stadium -- a sandy diamond is visible. I believe this is the Polo Grounds, home of the New York Giants Baseball team.
I'm absolutely astounded this only has 2300 views. I've never seen a raw glimpse into the 1930s like this before - in colour! This is by far and away the highest quality video I've ever come across from this time period. Simply incredible. Gonna have to post this to Reddit to share it with more people.
edit: we did it reddit
I think im here from your post. Pretty great!
Your post brought me here. Thanks, it's amazing
Here from Reddit
I think I’m also here from your post!! :)
Add me to the list of people who found this from your post :)
This wasn't that long ago in terms of human history, but it feels like there's such a huge gap between us now and this footage. It's almost eerie knowing that the majority of these people are gone, each of them having their own complex lives filled with ups and downs, love and heartbreak, etc. It's impossible to imagine just how many individual people have lived lives just as complex as yours, on the very same land you call home right now. In 100 years someone else could live right where you do now, raising a family that will never even know you were there, and could never possibly comprehend the experiences, thoughts, emotions, feelings, and memories that define you. That's just one person, the scale of every person ever is beyond what we can ever reasonably comprehend.
In the future there will be people reading these archived comments thinking the same thing
@@johnnyjohnny2650 Hi stranger, I'm from the future. How is it like 7 minutes ago?
Sonder
@@zildjian1995 47 minutes ago, Jebidiah Longoryth II made a certain remark that would lead Miles to his unfortunate downfall and absence of a response
@@zildjian1995 eternity is a spooky concept. It’s good that we won’t be here for more than 0.000002% of earth’s age
It's interesting how normal everything looks. Yes a bit outdated in some spots, but just completely normal.
The girls where even doing little tiktok dances lol
The more things change the more they stay the same. So much today is no different that it was growing up in the 90's, while there's also a ton of things different from even just 10 years ago, and I feel like it's just go to get worse the older I get lol
It always fascinates me to realize that a lot of the nuances of life that I thought were so new and modern, really aren't so new and modern.
I agree! Can you give some examples from the video?
@@asadovesoacrow archery
@@360bunker9 ummmm archery is literally tens of thousands of years old.
well that time wasn't all that long ago. Not even by our perception, there are a lot who are still alive, probably quite a few in this video
Pants
It just clicked with me that those old people around 2 and a half minutes in were born in the 1800's. That's wild to think about.
People are gonna call me old for being born in the 1900s
Their parents would have lived through and maybe fought in the civil war
They weren't born in the 1800s. People aged much faster in the early 1900s. I'd place that couple's age around 24/25. The girls walking up to them are only 3 or 4 years old.
It's crazy how much he wants those pictures of spider-man
A lot of people from a lot of what you saw from the 20th century were born in the 1800s.
I'm sitting here in Sweden in the year 2021, watching people that once lived on the other side of the world speaking a different language to me, but they all just look so normal...
Because it's always normal. At least as far as western costumes go, we're pretty much the same through the times since the "western" idea of society can be traced. And even before that, if we could have extended glimpses into it, you would find the same thing. Have a look at the "Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat" by the Lumière Brothers from 1896. If you manage to disregard the completely different fashion sense and surroundings from the era, you'll notice the human motions and the reactions are just like the ones we have today. That makes me wonder how far back should we have to go to lose that connection. How far back would we have to go to say that there was a substantial difference to the present. So different we could not find any relation whatsoever.
It's that human connection. I like to look at the pics from random tiny restaurants around the world. No matter what, it's just nice to see all sorts of folks enjoying the time.
I’m sitting here in Canada reading your comment and thinking about your moose picture and how it reminds me of the moose I saw this year in Canada. And thinking about how as a Canadian this American video doesn’t seem so distant.
This is really incredible, I know 8mm was not cheap especially in 1939-40. And to have 15 mins of it is amazing. Thank you for sharing
They clearly lived well through the great depression. Likely a pretty wealthy family.
@@alienwarex51i3 I mean, given that this was '39 - '40, they could've also been some of the first benefactors from the world war. That, or someone had a hobby they were happy to save up for and drop money on in a middle class life
This is a major problem with the diversity you see with 8mm film collections. In New Zealand, many collections will come from a town's pharmacy owner as they were often the seller of Kodak. Their film's show many exotic locations all over the world, but hardly ever cover of how the indigenous population of Maori culture lived. It's usually new car unveilings, weddings, etc, but hardly ever what one would call a broad spectrum of life at the time.
@@computationalcinematographer you must be fun at parties.
@@computationalcinematographer that's a really important factor in anthropology, too. Good point! The Maori have such a similar and messed up story as Native Americans of how colonization screwed them over then abandoned them. I know this isn't the topic of the video, but thank you for bringing this up!
It's weird to think that the video was filmed closer to the end of the American Civil War than it is to the current day.
Pretty damn nice video though, kudos!
IT'S WEIRD TO THINK THAT THE LACK OF BLACKS AND HISPANICS MADE LIFE BETTER. OK, ITS NOT WEIRD. ITS PRETTY ACCURATE
@@KS-be2zu lol
There is a photo of Bill Lundy, one of the last living Confederate veterans, posing in 1955 with a supersonic fighter jet. Apparently he was born in 1848 and enlisted during the last year of the CW at the age of 16. He died in 1957 aged 109.
Quoting from reddit;
"I think this is legitimately the late 1930's by dating the football game at the end. That's clearly the Polo Grounds and the halftime band does a big F and spells out Rams which would imply it's a Fordham Rams game who played their home games at the Polo Grounds until 1951. Based on the packed stands this has to be a pre-World War II game since Fordham's attendance was terrible post-war. I believe it could be the 1939 Pitt game since it looks like one of the teams on the scoreboard is Pitt but it's really hard to tell." credit u/nextyeardc
I was thinking it might be Pitt because of the colors but then again, the color looks to have been added.
what a pro
Nice!
October 28, 1939.
Fordham 28-13 Pitt
www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/fordham/1939-schedule.html
My great-grandmother was born in 1920 and lived until 2011. Crazy to think she was around that brunette's age in this film. Eerie also to think this was probably just at the eve of WWII in Europe.
Thats what i was thinking about too. In 7 years years from the filming of this the world was going to be on fire.
@@lovemetalmike WW2 ended in 1945... more like the world was on fire during the filming.
To think, the radio had only been popular for about 10 years at this point.
People could say the same about smartphones, if they even exist 50 years from now
Wow, that bright red Fiestaware at 3:20! Because this is prewar the glaze would have been made of non-depleted uranium and contained significant amounts of fissile U-235, making it substantially more radioactive than their postwar line which resumed production after being forced to halt during the Manhattan Project.
If one of these people said "I like music from the 80's" they would be referring to Tchaikovsky!
The what now?
@@Morganational they would like music from da 80s, so 1880s and Tchaikovsky made music during that time
We're ghosts looking at ghosts
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Well said my brotha.
ghosts watching ghosts, great comment I didn't think about it tell now and gotta say it kinda blew my mind.
Carpe diem.
Thanks for not adding crappy motion interpolation to it.
Reddit brought me here.
Looks like it went from 2000 to more than 160K views in a day.
Fascinating time capsule.
On photos, especially black and white ones, those times seem like they're completely different from anything people alive today have ever experienced. This however could mostly just as well be from the 1970s/80s. Such an interesting thing to see, Thanks a lot for sharing!
This is the highest quality home movie i've seen from the late 1930s that wasn't color/speed corrected!
Fordham vs. Pittsburgh, Oct 28, 1939 Fordham 27 - Pitt 13 attendance 36,200 at the Polo Grounds. Their final game of the season was vs NYU, at Yankees Stadium, with 57,000 in attendance. Interesting that they lost to Alabama early that season by a score of 7-6. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Fordham_Rams_football_team
A fascinating insight I took away from this is that our cameras are now so good we may not be able to date a particular footage from a specific decade maybe a hundred years from now, with 2020 videos looking as good as ones made in 2060, so people generations apart when viewed next to each other will give an impression of timely coexistence despite actually being separated by a lot of time.
Food for thought: It is quite unlikely that anyone of those person that can be seen here are still alive. By now we are a long way into the era of video and film existing. Just a few decades ago the earliest instances of film were likely from old people. By now, the oldest films (which this isn't even one) are a look back at people that are not alive anymore. Similar how it is with photographs.
A few more decades and none of the creators of the early video games will be alive too.
Who cares? How is people being dead even relavent?
@@haydenbarnett5437 I think they are talking about finality of human life and the semi-permanence of media. These people are gone but this film remains. I frequently think about the same thing when reviewing old film and audio. For instance the people that created this film never could have conceived it would be consumed in this manner, its essentially available instantly to the entire planet. Its hard to explain it into words why the people no longer being around is relevant but the best I can boil it down to is that it keeps our own mortality in perspective.
My grandmother is from 1920 and still alive. Learn some math.
@@danielelkins247 Not everyone lives 100 years obviously. Thats a minority.
@@danielelkins247 it is QUITE UNLIKELY. Not impossible. Just unlikely. Given that the average life expectancy is 80-85 years, and 1940 was 81 years ago, there's a very good chance all of these people are dead.
They are all blissfully unaware that someday I would be watching them while sitting on a toilet. If only they knew how far society would come.
You too, eh?
S#$%. You caught me
And how low society has become.
It was so cool to see a glimpse inside someone's family time from so long ago. I wonder if anyone in the video is still alive? It would be amazing to have them see this footage.
People in the year 2100 watching our videos:
Seeing this shot in 8K 3d almost makes me see them as if they were real, not like the generic 4k 2d you always see.
You can tell this is Long Island immediately, I love it. So much of it has remained almost exactly the same
As a fellow Long Islander, can confirm.
My main takeaway is that people used to go outside a lot more
Judging by their white skin? I doubt this bunch did
What else were they going to do? Listen to the radio?
In a lot of ways I miss how life was before the internet. Should I consider myself lucky to have been aware what life was like before it? Or is that the reason I find it both incredibly depressing but can't live without it at the same time?
I really wonder where we'd be without the internet, or at least not as widely accessible as it is today. I feel like some of us would definitely benefit, going outside and looking things up with books or asking someone else is the way I pick up hobbies and interests, but if it's just text on a webpage I just don't care as much, focusing instead on unproductive things like youtube and twitter.
The internet gives everyone a voice, and a significant amount of what's said is only done because of anonymity. Yes there are benefits to this, but at the same time do we really need to read everybody's opinion or hateful thoughts? Would we, as a community, be stronger as a result of more in-person interaction? Meeting someone in person is nowhere near the same as online, and as social animals a significant portion of our thoughts and emotions are only brought about through our senses that cannot be reproduced over the internet, like smell, taste, and most importantly touch. If we had to communicate face to face I think a lot of those people who do spread hate online would have a very different outlook.
@@mhilarius Nigga what
@@Icouldkillamonkey Sit on your bed reading, go out in the living room or kitchen table to work on something, take a nap, talk to your family members about whatever comes to mind, plan something out, make a call, play, get a snack?
Incredible video quality, closest thing to a time machine!
It would be neat if someone that can read lips could give us an idea of what they are saying in the spots where lips can be read.
Probably something along the lines of "what the fuck are you doing? No, pull the string all the way back, you're only going an inch and a half that's not how you do it. You're just frustrating the people watching this in 80 years."
They're just making fart noises with their mouth
3:35 "Dad asked for a drink."
3:58 "This one better have liquor in it."
4:00 "Wait, wait grandma drank the one with liquor in it."
4:05 "HERE's your drink dad! And a beer chaser!"
4:13 "We didn't forget you grandma! Here's your whiskey!"
So fascinating 💜
This is so weird. They all look... Normal.
What did you expect them to look like???
yep. it was the marching band that really got me.
A bit different facial features than what you see today.
@@szzk7937 why is that the case?
@@szzk7937 Nah people still look like people just less heavy makeup then probably.
Thanks for saving those old tapes.
this footage is primetime Boards of Canada music video material.
The very surreal thing for me is that while watching this, there is dozens of old timey feeling things, and then bam, woman in hoodie.
i only pressed play to see the woman in the hoodie lmao
Amazing that every person we see in this film is no longer alive. 90 years ago and it seems closer to our time than one would think.
More like 80 years ago
Thats the big thing. We aren't all that different, though the extent of the last few thousand years, we havent changed much. We need to get along and save ourselves!!!
Around the two minute mark you can see the nautically themed trash can. A Robert Moses idea. In fact, Jones Beach was a Moses beach and must have been relatively new at that point.
It blows my mind we still haven't identified any of these people yet.
That is 100% Jones Beach on Long Island. The water tower at 0:37 and the building at 4:51 are both still there. I just got my covid shots there a few weeks ago and drove by both.
IT'S IN THE TITLE OF THE VIDEO
7:00 someone's ice-skating gramps out there styling on everyone in a goddamn three piece suit.
That dude was killin it for real.
A sweater with an overcoat is a three piece suit?
All these people are long dead, and yet here they are like it was yesterday.
Living ghosts so to say.
Not necessarily.
@@derek7854 shush now, don't ruin my moment :p
Was a really good episode on Orville that touched on this in a way. A modern day cellphone was found in a time capsule, obviously they're on a spaceship hundreds of years in the future. One of the ships crew members falls in love in the phones owner using the holodeck.
Orville started off very crude and seemingly pure comedy oriented but towards the end they had a couple very heart felt episodes
@@triunnbjorn3610 The Orville is much better Star Trek than current Star Trek.
Watching a video of people from the 1930's on a device held in my hand that they would have thought was magic or alien technology. Surreal.
Only when you blow it out of proportion for them, as you see them as primitive when they weren't. The proof is that you are watching a color film in 1939, same as the 1921 Unknown tomb unveiling in DC being in color as well.
0:15 Not one of those women managed to hit a single car that day. Keep practicing ladies, you'll get one soon!
I saw those cars and wondered if they ever hit them.
The color makes 1939 seem more recent and relatable. Thx for posting.
I am pretty sure all of these people have passed away...especially grandpa.. speed skating the ice rink with his pipe, I was waiting for him to do triple salchow, double toe loop! 😢
“Did you tape over our family videos with a football game?!”
You can't tape over something with film.
I can remember as a kid the archery
Everyone in this video has a combined BMI of one modern American.
The water tower is called the Robert Moses something or other memorial. I believe he was one of the landscape/master architects of this larger New Deal-era project which created the public beach access, pool, and overwater connecting highway.
Thank you. This was a lot entertaining than any tv show.
This old stuff is essential. Sometimes it feels like there's a narrative that we walked out of caves, discovered Jesus, America, and capitalism in that order and were born to a television just a few years ago. As if history before anyone under 60 was a fairy tale.
it's better to let past America be forgotten so you can move past it and focus on transforming the country for the better.
@@Szolrykor bro I'm high as fuck lmao
"Look, mom... no joggers!"
Everyone looks so healthy. All ages even, it's not just the filter of youth.
Yeah there's a whole less body fat for one
Lucky Strikes
They ate better in the time after the depression and before the war. There was a period where things were good.
Winter was so greyscale. This film will sepia into your heart. Mainly I just can't get over how quiet everything was
What an amazing video! Its like peeking through a time machine.
Thanks for sharing this with the world
I’m a few minutes away from Jones beach
There is absolutely no excuse for the some of the potato quality videos we see today when footage like this.
There is - this is analog media on film which isn't limited by things (resolution for example) that apply to digital media.
Analog film is all the quality.
@@thumbsarehandy. The film still has limitations and grain... they just aren't as low as low end digital video.
So fkn cool to see! Thanks ☺️ from Reddit!
At 3:19, that appears to be the August 7th 1939 issue of Life Magazine
That guy slightly sliding in the sand is just like me. 80+years later. Sand has no prejudice.
Roughly 80 years ago filmed 75 years after the Civil War.
interesting, yes the colour is pretty good, also the frame rate seems to have been upped from the usual (?) /18 fps or 8mm films, which made them look choppy or jerky. I wonder if anything else was done to "modernize" the playback?
I wonder how many views this video is gonna end on..lol, pretty incredible to see and think about though.
Does anyone know what the orange bits seen on trees and faces in the black and white footage is called?
I think it's just where the film is burnt?
called 'burn in'... They're spots where the film has been damaged and/or burnt. This would sometimes happen when, as the film is being pulled through the projector, it gets hung up and stops momentarily. During that moment, the piece of film that is directly in front of the projector bulb would become super heated and start to melt.
@@MrLarrybyrne guess that explains why it always seems to happen to the darkest bits of film
Thanks y'all!
Crazy to think. This was filmed when my grandparents (all gone now), where 20 years younger than me, in their prime. Germany had invaded Poland and sparked WWII, which my grand fathers would all go and fight in, in just a year or two. And Oppenheimer would develop a bomb so big, that the world would forever live in fear of them after America dropped two of them on Japan, ending its empire. Which is also crazy to think, Japan was an enemy then. I freaking love Japan.
But yeah. Just insane how fast time goes. We are only here a moment. Our bodies young for a mere second, and then “old” forever. Almost seems unfair really. The average human life span being what, 70-75 years? That’s nothing. Make your life count, because tomorrow will arrive faster than you know. I remember being told that when I was younger, and laughing at it. But believe me. All of you who are in your teens and twenties right now, are going to wake up one day and go “holy shit, how am in my 40s already!” So yeah. Make today count. Remember time. Remember your death.
This is beautiful.
200,000 years of human history yet films have only been developed over the last 200 years. Makes you think those "long" departed people just missed you by a second in geologic time.
There's all sorts of cool stuff on this channel!
I wish we could know who this family is!
Check out that dude's swimsuit, pause at 4:42
thanks then reddit
Is this your family? Also, looking at this now, what do you think creator?
Nice. What was used to transfer it? Also, how'd you get TH-cam to stop smoothing the grain?
thank you for sharing it for free
Not even one fat person. People today say been fat is genetics, keep telling yourselves that.
People in this film if they are still alive are probably over 100 now
No one had a television. If you wanted to watch that football game, you had to be in the stadium.
560 Americans had a Television in 1938.
everyone you can see that's older than 25 in this video is already dead. that's kinda scary to think of.
Well, this went from 2k views to 88k views. Reddit's kiss of death???
I think you mean kiss of life. The more the merrier.
Feels like it's a movie
Vroski's did not know what was coming💀💀
this is so cool! wow 😎👍👍👍
Why the artefacts on the black and white footage ?
Can I ask what your digitizing technique was?
Don't the sprockets give it a The Ring (2002) quality about it?
So much for 2k views. Let's keep pumping it up!
1 -3 minute of color film cost 3 dollars, holy shit this must have cost so much to tape.
I'd guess this was the Fordham Rams college football team. 12:05 you can actually see it looks like it says Fordham vs Rice. I'd be curious to see when this was exactly.
Just got a better view of the video. It says Fordham vs Rice Nov 4 2pm on the edge of the upper tier. Amazing.
www.nytimes.com/1938/01/20/archives/fordham-will-play-rice-football-rivals-will-meet-here-nov-4-1939.html
First time they ever played against each other. Fordham beat Rice 13-7
www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/1939-11-04-fordham.html
That game was played at the Polo Grounds which is what we're lookin at.
cougarstats.com/games.php?show=details&game_id=68363
I'm actually wrong, this is Fordham v Pitt which took place a week earlier and Fordham won 27-13. The banner saying Fordham v Rice was advertising the next week's game.
@@DWilli707 still, I’m guessing a lot of people appreciate your sleuthing here. Great stuff, thanks.
Is there sound, I cannot hear anything..
We need to bring back the men's swumsuit style from 4:42!
I don't know how they can wear pants/shorts that high up lol. Tried it and very uncomfortable.
Wild how much adding colour humanizes these scenes, looks less like a historical artifact and more like something you could walk right into.
I feel a bit voyeuristic. Hope these people wouldn't mind.
I hope they would mind :3
They're all dead
Have you ever seen Peter Jackson's They Will Not Grow Old? They cleaned, stabilized and colored footage from World War 1 and it is totally wild. They do a bit of a fake out at the beginning, with some footage that already looks pretty good and then they go even farther.
I'm not for colorizing black and white films but as a separate piece of art, making WW1 more immediate and humanizing the people featured in the footage, it's an incredible piece of work.
@@explodingbearz yes and yet I shy away from graverobbing too
@@joshbuechler4867 This ISN'T colorized. Christ people.
5:42 NOT THE DUCK, OH GOD SAVE HIM!! the orangeness is taking them!!
wow
Back when bras were a luxury
It's weird to think they were all just like us. I don't know who any of these people are and I don't know their stories. For some, this footage might be the only proof of them existing otherwise they'll have all been forgotten by time.
I mean records are pretty prevalent at this point, everyone in this video likely made it into a census, there's proof, if you know where to look. And I'm sure most of them had photographs, it's just who has them? Are they going to archive them like this footage?
I've come from Reddit 👋👍
Same
Me turning up my volume. Why is not... Ah right.
why is fate so cruel
It's strange that nobody is looking at their phone. Much simpler times. Kind of happy evolution led us to where we are. We should appreciate a little more the times we live in.
So strange they arn't walking around staring at their giant wall mounted rotary phones. So beautiful.
just wow.