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Retraining A Pacer - Learning to go from Track to Laid Back

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2022
  • In this archive footage, we revisit a horse that came to us to be retrained after a life of being raced as a pacer.
    With these sorts of horses, there are a lot of considerations to be made and careful management of their training is essential to help the horse learn what is now required of them, after a lifetime of being expected to do something entirely different!
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  • @jrusco4979
    @jrusco4979 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have never watched a pacer from this angle. So interesting to see the hip action. Love your videos and your philosophy. Keep up the good work.

  • @heritagehorsedrawncarriage1069
    @heritagehorsedrawncarriage1069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We use Standardbreds for our carriage tours. We find most have lovely gentle temperaments but you have to find those who are hopeless at racing to get the best ones for carriage work

  • @brendareed8412
    @brendareed8412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I so wish I had your wisdom and knowledge, Barry. I watch your videos and realize how little I really know about horses - and teaching. Thank you for sharing.

    • @MollyGrue1
      @MollyGrue1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me, too, I enjoy them even if my horse was only driven 2ce and died in 2020. Its always interesting to watch and listen to this master of driving and horsemanship. :)
      And he's got one heck of a nerve, remaining quiet while the horse is rearing and doing all sort of awkward things. I'd have a heart attack right there imagining the ugliest things to happen...
      Excellent job of not putting any pressure on the bit. Ex-racers are trained to pull against it the more you pull the reins. Takes, nerve, too, but its the only way of re-training them.

  • @janedmunds4218
    @janedmunds4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a beautiful bay. Thanks for giving him a new job.

  • @chelseavuchinich4859
    @chelseavuchinich4859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That stop was a thing of beauty. I could really clearly see that despite this horse wanting to get on, he was really listening to Barry & engaged with him. I wish every horse could have a Barry Hook of their own. ❤❤❤ Thank you to Barry & the team that makes these videos available to all of us! 🙏🏻💕

  • @jenniferlehman326
    @jenniferlehman326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    barryhook2, He's just like the Pacer I'm working with. I'm training him to be a riding horse. He had been beaten severely for breaking into the trot, so now when I ask for the trot, he gets afraid of being beaten again. And all I have him in is a rubber bit as well. I've had him for 9 months now, and he's getting better about going into the trot. But he still has his moments of being worried about being beaten. He's just turned 7, so there's still work to be done. A lot of wet saddle pads and miles to go, but, both his owner and I, we are both committed to giving him another life where there isn't fear anymore. Stay Safe Everyone!! From Ontario, Canada, Jenn. 💖 💖 🇨🇦 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟

    • @jasonparsons1306
      @jasonparsons1306 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your horse would not have been beaten for trotting, they pace in hobbles which makes it impossible to trot, the problem is most likely you, the standardbred horse is the kindest most easily trained breed

    • @comesahorseman
      @comesahorseman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jennifer, how is he shod? He's more apt to trot if you shoe him very lightly behind and a little heavier in front. And, Jason is correct in that pacers are usually raced with hopples, which makes trotting pretty impossible. Something doesn't sound right here, no disrespect.

    • @Sine-gl9ly
      @Sine-gl9ly 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How are you getting on with the pacer now?
      My late uncle used to shoe at a harness track, and I remember him telling me that the horses were easy to shoe but often very reactive for many other matters, due to them having little exposure to 'normal life', as it were - less even than TB racehorses usually have, here in the UK at least.
      He worried about the pacers in their retirement. He described them, in the 1960s, as being very 'soft' and 'having their brains wired differently' - he was very, very fond of some of them - and of course we now know that gaited horses are indeed 'wired differently' with distinct genetic markers.

    • @jenniferlehman326
      @jenniferlehman326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Sine-gl9ly He's doing great after 2 years of hard work with me and his owner. He doesn't like a lot of contact, as that reminds him of being checked up, but light contact is fine. He's now trotting out well, and trotting out with his owner on hacks and I ride him frequently during the summer as well. I use him to lead other horses out on hacks from summer camp. He was abused for always breaking into the trot when he would break in a race. It took us 2 years to get him to understand that it was safe to trot with no fear. But we got there in the end!! Thank you for asking about Saber!! Best Regards from a Retired Paramedic and Horse Trainer in Ontario, Canada, Jenn 💖 🇨🇦

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I grew up with Standardbreds, so....if you want a pacer to trot, try using very light shoes or no shoes behind and a heavier shoe up front. Some will do better if you keep a soft contact with their mouth, while some will do better on a looser rein. Experiment a bit. 😄

  • @garythurber9867
    @garythurber9867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You sure make things that are very difficult look so easy. I love your vlogs. Thanks for this one.

  • @loredelore7286
    @loredelore7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I used to have a standard bred and he only had one speed, which was full steam ahead, very challenging to say the least.

  • @onelastgoodhome
    @onelastgoodhome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love the Standard Bred and Pacers...unfortunately in the US if they are not picked up by the Amish (which can be a fate worst than death) they are slaughtered as people feel they cannot be re-trained. Personally, once they have raced there should be retraining as mandatory

  • @Cheshyre.
    @Cheshyre. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish I could train under you for a year.

  • @paulbucklebuckle4921
    @paulbucklebuckle4921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovley.

  • @susanbrown2909
    @susanbrown2909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video..hope your well barry.

  • @ShotgunAndAShovel
    @ShotgunAndAShovel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm loving your videos. You talk to and about horses like my family

  • @ida2300
    @ida2300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    really adore your training philosophy! i see so many riders - honestly it seems like english riders sometimes are the worst - yelling and wacking their horses for "being naughty"... No trying to understand where the behaviour comes from or tackling it in a calm manner. Its obviously such a common trend all over the world and it contributes to so many behavioral issues in horses. but thankfully theres still so many amazing horsemen out there teaching true and fair horsemanship!

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't know where you get the idea about English riders being agressive. Most horse people I know are extremely patient and thoughtful towards their horses. It would be normal for bystanders to say something if they saw a horse being badly treated. Animal abuse is taken seriously here

  • @alexandervickers4389
    @alexandervickers4389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Are there more videos on the retraining of this horse?
    Very interesting. Such a lot of Standardbreds in Australia. I have one with similar tendencies.

    • @barryhook2
      @barryhook2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There may be another, but would have to dig it out!

    • @chelseavuchinich4859
      @chelseavuchinich4859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@barryhook2 Please dig it out! It's wonderful to see. I wonder how he's doing now. He is a lovely boy.

    • @alexandervickers4389
      @alexandervickers4389 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@barryhook2 Yes please find it Barry !!

  • @Rubydoomsday
    @Rubydoomsday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a mini just like that. Just wants to go, go, go and does the same rearing and frustration when I make him stand. I CAN control him but it makes me nervous and it’s not enjoyable. :(

    • @barryhook2
      @barryhook2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It can be a long road with horses like yours. Lots of time and patience in the right direction should make all the difference, but it is easier said than done!

    • @comesahorseman
      @comesahorseman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Horses take many of their behavior cues from us. "I can control him, but it makes me nervous," there's your answer right there. If you can get some good help, do so, and start with basic groundwork. You'll get there, be patient with the mini & with yourself.

  • @brendareed8412
    @brendareed8412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it important that a horse trots and doesn't pace while in harness?

    • @barryhook2
      @barryhook2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on what their job is. It is important that a horse goes in whatever gait you ask them to. For some horses, that is pacing if they are being raced in a pacing race. For most relaxed country drives out, it's a trot!

  • @stephenwalsh8184
    @stephenwalsh8184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🐴👍

  • @gerrycoleman7290
    @gerrycoleman7290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a fan of master/slave relationship.

    • @50invicta
      @50invicta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you elaborate please ?

    • @BrightPath_K9s
      @BrightPath_K9s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is nothing in this video about that. Please elaborate

    • @gerrycoleman7290
      @gerrycoleman7290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrightPath_K9s Look at what the horse is 'saying'. Think about it.

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some people leave their horses in the field and never use them.
      It's not for everyone.