I have a 72 Dana 30 empty shell open rusted and all lost parts . I’ve had it hot dipped and clean. Can I buy all parts to rebuild ? Shop told me because I don’t have certain parts it’s not rebuildable ?
That is incredibly stupid!! At Dana you guys mark the carrier caps on some axles down the centerline with letters like "S", as shown in your video, where as the cap can be rotated 180 degrees and the letter still lines up. Don't use letters like "S, N, H, O, I, Z, X" on axle centerline! when I see this, I always stamp my own letters offset the centerline. The other "That Is Incredibly Stupid" award you win on the JK non-Rubicon 44 rear, is there are no tabs casted onto the carrier caps to keep the side shims from coming out. It is now Standard procedure for us to weld tabs on carrier caps (3/16" X 1/2" long square key stock). Congratulations on winning 2 "That Is Incredibly Stupid" Awards for this axle, I'm going to give you a pass on the "cheesy" plug welds on many of the axles that I have come across ( Jeep JK 44 Rear). With Love from Russia.....
Hello, what document can I actually use to reinstall the dana spicer 21060S Axle? Please, can you link me that that document> I want to install my pinion back into my SPicer 21060S Axle but I have not been able to because I Want to make sure I have the right order of parts before I do so? Please Help
How can I tell if I have a Dana 60 Rear End? I have a 1970 GMC C20 2WD long bed with leaf springs in the rear. It has a 10 Bolt Rear End. It has 12" Drums that just SLIDE off, do not have to remove the Axle to remove the Drums. It looks lie it has 7 bolts attaching the Backing Plate to the Axle Housing. Looking at the Diff cover it has a code written upside-down on the passenger side.. C-30255, and below that it has the number 60. Is it a Dana 60 Rear End?
How the hell do you set the pinion depth if you do not have any shims to start with? I have watched 3 of these & no one seems to have any information on this subject. Experts??
Dana 44 spindle needle bearing help Need to know which side goes in first flat side or rounded side ? I know there is a right and a wrong didn't pay close enough attn upon removal
im looking to rebuild my dana 80 asap is the usa bearing any good vs the yukon brand any help anybody or part numbers to rebuild it.03 f350 6.0 has 41-10/4.10 gears??????
How do you identify a Dana 60 Rear End? I have a 1970 GMC C20 long bed with leaf springs in the rear. It has a 10 Bolt rear end. It is a Full Floater with 12" Drums. The Drums just SLIDE OFF, the Axles do not need to be removed to take off the Drums. It has 7 bolts attaching the Backing Plate to the Axle Housing. It is 8 Lug with 1/2" x20 Wheel Studs. Looking at the diff cover on the passenger side it has a code written upside-down C-30255, and below that it has the number 60. Is this a Dana 60 Rear End?
+707SonomaComa Refer to the tag on the differential cover and use the data at: www2.dana.com/expertforms/demenu.aspx?prod=AXL Most likely it is not a Dana 60. Sounds like an Eaton HO52 or HO72. Is the cover round?
+patw52pb1 The rear end looks just like the one in this picture with the exact same markings. On the top right hand corner it has C-30255 written upside down and on the bottom right hand corner is has the number 60. www.fordification.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21876
+707SonomaComa If your housing looks like the pictures you refer to then it is most likely a Dana 60. You may want to get a complete VIN and build plate number decode to determine what differential the vehicle left the factory with. Most 1970 GMC C20 long bed with leaf springs left the factory with Eaton differentials with the most common being the HO52 and optionally the HO72. Also be mindful casually describing differentials by the number of bolts on the cover such as 10 bolt or 12 bolt without noting you are referring to cover bolts can lead to erroneous identification. Example, a 10 bolt cover differential can have a 10 bolt or 12 bolt ring gear/carrier and vice-versa. www.hotrod.com/how-to/transmission-drivetrain/hrdp-0202-gm-12-bolt-axle/ www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Rearend_identification www.differentials.com/technical-help/differential-identification
The Aluminum Dana 44 is a one-off abortion, most likely a "Brain Child" of Mercedes-Benz. You have very limited options for up grades. Ok in stock form. With LOVE, From Russia......
so... backlash is just how far the crown is into the pinion? i imagine if there were no shims and the crown wheel was too far into the pinion gear then it would want to bind up?
yea it has to be pinion in relation to crown right? because if you were messing with the spacing of the crown then the shafts would get thrown out of balance??
Backlash is how much rotation (the air gap) you have between the pinion and crown wheel and it is not measured at all like it is in the video. Look for another video for how to do it. In short you put the dial indicator plunger onto the crown wheel gear face, lock the pinion so it can't rotate then rock the crown wheel back and forth measuring the total play between the teeth. This measurement is crucial to prevent binding of the gears once under load and under thermal expansion so you are correct.
If you are talking about brake drums, Not likely, those are installed by truck manufacturers (Ford, Dodge and GM).Not Dana/Spicer. 1) Tire and wheel balance are one likely cause, with a vibration frequency of 1 to 1 ratio @ 60 MPH (Tire Rotation) 2) Drive line balance is another likely cause, with a vibration frequency of approx. 3.5-4.5 to 1 ratio @ 60 MPH (Drive line To Tire rotation) Drive line vibration is the worst, if bad enough, it can and will shake the Diff. pinion nut loose, thus causing major damage. Yes, I know this Post/Question is 2 years old. With LOVE, From Russia.....
Clean the mating surface to the drum and check for run out with a dial caliper. Sometimes a wack with a hammer on one side trues it up or knocks the rust off. They don't have the tightest of manufacturing for these.
You are assuming that folks already know how to rebuild a rear axle and have every special tool made. I am a helo mech and pilot and have NO FRIGGIN IDEA how to do it since you race through the info at light speed. Thanks for nothing.
Useless video for actually doing it. Good for a quick overview to get a basic understanding i guess tho. Should have shown pinion depth shimming at least instead of just saying you done it with a tool no one actually uses in the real world.
#WorkingWednesday Rebuilding your genuine Dana axles? Get tech tips and resources on several key components of your rebuild. #SpicerParts th-cam.com/video/BITX6fZMz5Q/w-d-xo.html
+Spicer Parts hi, excuse me to disturb you, I have a rear dana 70U on my dodge ram2500 98.5 , I must to change all the seals, I would like to know how many seals are there? I know only the pinion seal, and the wheels , but inside of the dana 70 , are there 2 seals left and right of the case where the bearings are or no? In front I have a dana 60F, and I know there is one seal on the right of the case, near to the bearing.Thank you in advance
+pelvismc pelvis if you have to order the seals, just look on the parts diagram. There are no internal seals otherwise how would your wheel bearings get oiled?
it would have been nice to see more of the details of the actual work than a glossing over of the specifics.
If you download the suggested document there is more detail than most care to deal with.
Get yourself a junkyard rear end & learn how to do it
Good Stuff, Great Tips👍🏿😀
What the hell was that backlash measurment! Lmao
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if your doing this under the car/jeep you cant spin the torque wrench all the ay around,
Maravilla de la mecanica ...Gracias por el video
I have a 72 Dana 30 empty shell open rusted and all lost parts . I’ve had it hot dipped and clean. Can I buy all parts to rebuild ? Shop told me because I don’t have certain parts it’s not rebuildable ?
That is incredibly stupid!! At Dana you guys mark the carrier caps on some axles down the centerline with letters like "S", as shown in your video, where as the cap can be rotated 180 degrees and the letter still lines up. Don't use letters like "S, N, H, O, I, Z, X" on axle centerline! when I see this, I always stamp my own letters offset the centerline. The other "That Is Incredibly Stupid" award you win on the JK non-Rubicon 44 rear, is there are no tabs casted onto the carrier caps to keep the side shims from coming out. It is now Standard procedure for us to weld tabs on carrier caps (3/16" X 1/2" long square key stock). Congratulations on winning 2 "That Is Incredibly Stupid" Awards for this axle, I'm going to give you a pass on the "cheesy" plug welds on many of the axles that I have come across ( Jeep JK 44 Rear).
With Love from Russia.....
Hello, what document can I actually use to reinstall the dana spicer 21060S Axle? Please, can you link me that that document> I want to install my pinion back into my SPicer 21060S Axle but I have not been able to because I Want to make sure I have the right order of parts before I do so? Please Help
I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 3.6L V6. How do I check or find out which axle model is installed on my vehicle?
How can I tell if I have a Dana 60 Rear End?
I have a 1970 GMC C20 2WD long bed with leaf springs in the rear. It has a 10 Bolt Rear End. It has 12" Drums that just SLIDE off, do not have to remove the Axle to remove the Drums. It looks lie it has 7 bolts attaching the Backing Plate to the Axle Housing. Looking at the Diff cover it has a code written upside-down on the passenger side.. C-30255, and below that it has the number 60. Is it a Dana 60 Rear End?
How the hell do you set the pinion depth if you do not have any shims to start with? I have watched 3 of these & no one seems to have any information on this subject. Experts??
Dana 44 spindle needle bearing help
Need to know which side goes in first flat side or rounded side ? I know there is a right and a wrong didn't pay close enough attn upon removal
im looking to rebuild my dana 80 asap is the usa bearing any good vs the yukon brand any help anybody or part numbers to rebuild it.03 f350 6.0 has 41-10/4.10 gears??????
I want to change my Dana 35 rear end 2 a 4.88 do I have to do the front 2
How do you identify a Dana 60 Rear End?
I have a 1970 GMC C20 long bed with leaf springs in the rear. It has a 10 Bolt rear end. It is a Full Floater with 12" Drums. The Drums just SLIDE OFF, the Axles do not need to be removed to take off the Drums. It has 7 bolts attaching the Backing Plate to the Axle Housing. It is 8 Lug with 1/2" x20 Wheel Studs. Looking at the diff cover on the passenger side it has a code written upside-down C-30255, and below that it has the number 60.
Is this a Dana 60 Rear End?
+707SonomaComa
Refer to the tag on the differential cover and use the data at:
www2.dana.com/expertforms/demenu.aspx?prod=AXL
Most likely it is not a Dana 60.
Sounds like an Eaton HO52 or HO72. Is the cover round?
+patw52pb1
The rear end looks just like the one in this picture with the exact same markings. On the top right hand corner it has C-30255 written upside down and on the bottom right hand corner is has the number 60.
www.fordification.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21876
+707SonomaComa
If your housing looks like the pictures you refer to then it is most likely a Dana 60.
You may want to get a complete VIN and build plate number decode to determine what differential the vehicle left the factory with.
Most 1970 GMC C20 long bed with leaf springs left the factory with Eaton differentials with the most common being the HO52 and optionally the HO72.
Also be mindful casually describing differentials by the number of bolts on the cover such as 10 bolt or 12 bolt without noting you are referring to cover bolts can lead to erroneous identification.
Example, a 10 bolt cover differential can have a 10 bolt or 12 bolt ring gear/carrier and vice-versa.
www.hotrod.com/how-to/transmission-drivetrain/hrdp-0202-gm-12-bolt-axle/
www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/Rearend_identification
www.differentials.com/technical-help/differential-identification
yes it is a dana 60
Did he just say 600lb of torque. Foh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 that’s a lie
What are the differences between the Dana 44 and the Dana 44 HD with aluminum housing, as in the ones used on grand cherokee zj and wj's?
The Aluminum Dana 44 is a one-off abortion, most likely a "Brain Child" of Mercedes-Benz. You have very limited options for up grades. Ok in stock form.
With LOVE, From Russia......
Is it ok if I just skip the measuring and just use the oil paint to check the pattern??? Hehehe..
Finger painting with water colors works best, and eating a box of Crayon's helps too.
With LOVE, From Russia......
would like to find a 3.7 ring and pinion for a dana 36, only thing I can find is 3.54 and 3.73.
so... backlash is just how far the crown is into the pinion?
i imagine if there were no shims and the crown wheel was too far into the pinion gear then it would want to bind up?
or is it just the other way, ie.. setting the distance of the pinion gear in relation to the crown wheel? i should go pull a diff apart..
yea it has to be pinion in relation to crown right? because if you were messing with the spacing of the crown then the shafts would get thrown out of balance??
but then theres also probably lateral movement of the crown to worry about??
Backlash is how much rotation (the air gap) you have between the pinion and crown wheel and it is not measured at all like it is in the video. Look for another video for how to do it. In short you put the dial indicator plunger onto the crown wheel gear face, lock the pinion so it can't rotate then rock the crown wheel back and forth measuring the total play between the teeth. This measurement is crucial to prevent binding of the gears once under load and under thermal expansion so you are correct.
did any of the dana 60's have a out of balance or bad drum that gives it a vibration at 55 to 65 mph.
If you are talking about brake drums, Not likely, those are installed by truck manufacturers (Ford, Dodge and GM).Not Dana/Spicer.
1) Tire and wheel balance are one likely cause, with a vibration frequency of 1 to 1 ratio @ 60 MPH (Tire Rotation)
2) Drive line balance is another likely cause, with a vibration frequency of approx. 3.5-4.5 to 1 ratio @ 60 MPH (Drive line To Tire rotation)
Drive line vibration is the worst, if bad enough, it can and will shake the Diff. pinion nut loose, thus causing major damage.
Yes, I know this Post/Question is 2 years old.
With LOVE, From Russia.....
Clean the mating surface to the drum and check for run out with a dial caliper. Sometimes a wack with a hammer on one side trues it up or knocks the rust off. They don't have the tightest of manufacturing for these.
Would like to see a video for the Dana 80 under a Ford f-350 drw
Yeah I'm about to rebuild mine it just took a dump on me at 456k.....
Sew to sew
Patrick, Im looking for someone to rebuild a rearend in a 2001 F350 Super Duty Turbo Diesel (Dana 80) Do you know any reputable companies?
Sooooo..... hire this job out.
You are assuming that folks already know how to rebuild a rear axle and have every special tool made. I am a helo mech and pilot and have NO FRIGGIN IDEA how to do it since you race through the info at light speed. Thanks for nothing.
Useless video for actually doing it. Good for a quick overview to get a basic understanding i guess tho. Should have shown pinion depth shimming at least instead of just saying you done it with a tool no one actually uses in the real world.
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Sam Malmberg parts for Dana 70
#WorkingWednesday Rebuilding your genuine Dana axles? Get tech tips and resources on several key components of your rebuild. #SpicerParts th-cam.com/video/BITX6fZMz5Q/w-d-xo.html
+Spicer Parts hi, excuse me to disturb you, I have a rear dana 70U on my dodge ram2500 98.5 , I must to change all the seals, I would like to know how many seals are there? I know only the pinion seal, and the wheels , but inside of the dana 70 , are there 2 seals left and right of the case where the bearings are or no? In front I have a dana 60F, and I know there is one seal on the right of the case, near to the bearing.Thank you in advance
+pelvismc pelvis if you have to order the seals, just look on the parts diagram. There are no internal seals otherwise how would your wheel bearings get oiled?