Another interesting (and very unknown) brand is Shizuku-Ishi. Its a watchbrand started by the manufacturer of the modern mechanical Grand Seiko calibres. All their watches use modern Grand Seiko / Credor movevements , but cost about 2000 less compared to a similar specification Grand Seiko / Credor watch.
Another great video Bill. I would have never thought you could get a watch at an affordable(?) price from such great watchmakers. I like a lot of the watches presented but really like the Daniel Roth Premiere Retrograde and the Chaumet Dandy Arty, both of which are on my radar. Best regards, Brian
Awesome selection Bill, looks like there are a lot of hidden gems out there ready for discovery :D Thanks for the information, and have a great weekend! Cheers, Abdul
Swatch is made by the top watchmaker in Switzerland and has an ETA movement! 😂😂😂 Just joking. I really appreciate your content and the depth of your knowledge!
@@watchartsci No. I have shot watches commercially in the past and I have a studio in Geneva but my username is referring to my TH-cam channel. It's a play on, "They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?" I'm more of a watch breaker than a watchmaker and I film my mistakes! 😂😂😂
Bill, thanks for the excellent content. I found a Antonine Preziuso GMT on Chron24 and purchased it. On its way from the UK. Question: Any thoughts or input on Charriol? A few came up on a feed and while more focused on women's watches the small men's selection seems very high quality. Excellent value on the secondary market, but I cannot find much on their movements etc. Thanks for any input you or others may have.
Paul, your query is complicated. Charriol has a focus on women's watches and jewelry. It's best men's watches have Technotime movements. Technotime went bankrupt and the rights to the assets went to Festina, a Spanish-Swiss group, who own Soprod. The new 'Technotime/Soprod' movements are created by Festina-owned MHVJ [Manufacture horlogère Vallée de Joux SA]. MHVJ is a very high tech manufacturing company using nanotech computers creating the parts for Technotime designs. The Charriol watches in the $2,000 to $3,000 range use the Technotime movements, in particular the TT651. Take care, bill
Excellent content once again. I find myself immediately hunting for these watches as I’m watching you videos hahaha I can never seem to find the deals you can see though hahaha
@@watchartsci the tricky thing is finding the exact same model. Without an in-depth knowledge you are never sure of the exact involvement of some of these people.
Nice to see different options to reach top watchmaker. Thanks always inspiring. Just a question since by memory never heard you talking about Gerald Genta watches. Aside the usual sospects, what do you think about gerald genta w. company, or charles genta, or universal geneve by GG design, their movement and composition? Some run with JLC mov, some are swiss mov unspecified....
Albert, Gerald Genta has been mentioned in a number of videos, but he was more of a designer than watchmaker ... even though he did have a watchmaker background. ... this discussion may be of use to you: th-cam.com/users/live7o7_5Znz3_c Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci thanks Bill. Always the best. I will have a look to the reference. I was more wondering if Genta collaborated with some relevant watchmaker or else. exploring this world where something is relevant but less known is always a pleasure doing with you. Thanks for your insights.
Very interesting, I knew of some of the watches like the Daniel Roth Premier Retrograde and Sven Anderson's watches but the BLU, especially that Duett has a very cool techno design.
About a year ago (mas o menos..🤔) I discovered BLU and promptly forgot about it, Wangang. Then I re-discovered them when learning more about Bernhard L. Take care, Bill
Hi Ardi, I was just looking at their own manufactured movement ... Garrick has come a long way. I like the looks of their 3Hz UT-G03 movement and their use of guilloché. Take care, Bill
In the past top watchmakers’ clients were royal families, aristocrats and industrialists. The everyday man couldn’t afford watches. The mid and lower class were passing watches as heirlooms. Was a big deal having that. Nowadays we are all pampered and think we should punch above our weight 😅 which in fact just the version of this trend has changed. We can add nouveau Riche to the bag now 😅. But no one stops us from appreciating great works on the hands of the super rich 😂
The pricing strategy of most independent watchmakers nowadays is just to list their phone numbers plus a couple of zeros as the MSRP. Either that or their social insurance number. In these circles cash is trash.
I prefer Claret. His creations really piss in the wind. And those eta jobs with modules from these mad geniuses really just look like the homework you copied off a plagiarism site and handed in at the last minute.
Another interesting (and very unknown) brand is Shizuku-Ishi. Its a watchbrand started by the manufacturer of the modern mechanical Grand Seiko calibres. All their watches use modern Grand Seiko / Credor movevements , but cost about 2000 less compared to a similar specification Grand Seiko / Credor watch.
Very interesting history Heretic ... and who doesn't like a $2k-$3k discount? Take care, Bill
I didn’t know about them. Like their chronographs
Another great video Bill. I would have never thought you could get a watch at an affordable(?) price from such great watchmakers. I like a lot of the watches presented but really like the Daniel Roth Premiere Retrograde and the Chaumet Dandy Arty, both of which are on my radar.
Best regards, Brian
Brian, you know I'm not a good influence ... just ask you wife! Glad you enjoyed, though. Take care, Bill
Awesome selection Bill, looks like there are a lot of hidden gems out there ready for discovery :D
Thanks for the information, and have a great weekend! Cheers, Abdul
Hi Abdul, ... hoping to get all watches delivered in US today and then Europe! Let me know what your plans are. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Thanks Bill, will do. Looks like I will be the last one to get it :)
Swatch is made by the top watchmaker in Switzerland and has an ETA movement! 😂😂😂 Just joking. I really appreciate your content and the depth of your knowledge!
Hey Shoot, are you a watch photographer by any chance? Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci No. I have shot watches commercially in the past and I have a studio in Geneva but my username is referring to my TH-cam channel. It's a play on, "They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?" I'm more of a watch breaker than a watchmaker and I film my mistakes! 😂😂😂
Great video again. Hadnt heard of Bernhard yet, very unique stuff!
Glad you enjoyed it, Heretic ... BL's watches are incredible horology ... mostly out of reach except for the BLU watches. Take care, Bill
Extraordinary pieces, thanks Dr.!
Glad I could find them for you, Haaaa Veeeee! Take care, Bill
Bill, thanks for the excellent content. I found a Antonine Preziuso GMT on Chron24 and purchased it. On its way from the UK. Question: Any thoughts or input on Charriol? A few came up on a feed and while more focused on women's watches the small men's selection seems very high quality. Excellent value on the secondary market, but I cannot find much on their movements etc. Thanks for any input you or others may have.
Paul, your query is complicated. Charriol has a focus on women's watches and jewelry. It's best men's watches have Technotime movements. Technotime went bankrupt and the rights to the assets went to Festina, a Spanish-Swiss group, who own Soprod. The new 'Technotime/Soprod' movements are created by Festina-owned MHVJ [Manufacture horlogère Vallée de Joux SA]. MHVJ is a very high tech manufacturing company using nanotech computers creating the parts for Technotime designs. The Charriol watches in the $2,000 to $3,000 range use the Technotime movements, in particular the TT651. Take care, bill
Excellent content once again. I find myself immediately hunting for these watches as I’m watching you videos hahaha I can never seem to find the deals you can see though hahaha
The hunt is the fun thing! Consider this Mell-if you don't find anything to buy; it's free! Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci the tricky thing is finding the exact same model. Without an in-depth knowledge you are never sure of the exact involvement of some of these people.
@@mell3109 You're right ... there's no substitution for learning about watches and watchmaking, Mell.
Hey Bill,
Paul Gerber retrograde has been on my secret radar for some time, I can't find it. Do you have any suggestions? I want model #156
Hi Fan, how about this place for a PG? passionfinejewelry.com/collections/paul-gerber-watches Take care, Bill
Another fantastic video! I love learning about these less-heralded watchmakers and brands.
Glad you like them Ced! It's fun to go down all the more interesting rabbit holes... Take care, Bill
Nice to see different options to reach top watchmaker. Thanks always inspiring. Just a question since by memory never heard you talking about Gerald Genta watches. Aside the usual sospects, what do you think about gerald genta w. company, or charles genta, or universal geneve by GG design, their movement and composition? Some run with JLC mov, some are swiss mov unspecified....
Albert, Gerald Genta has been mentioned in a number of videos, but he was more of a designer than watchmaker ... even though he did have a watchmaker background. ... this discussion may be of use to you: th-cam.com/users/live7o7_5Znz3_c Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci thanks Bill. Always the best. I will have a look to the reference. I was more wondering if Genta collaborated with some relevant watchmaker or else. exploring this world where something is relevant but less known is always a pleasure doing with you. Thanks for your insights.
@@albertocampesato1308 Both Genta and Daniel Roth worked at Bvlgari at the same time. Maybe they did something together there.
Very interesting, I knew of some of the watches like the Daniel Roth Premier Retrograde and Sven Anderson's watches but the BLU, especially that Duett has a very cool techno design.
About a year ago (mas o menos..🤔) I discovered BLU and promptly forgot about it, Wangang. Then I re-discovered them when learning more about Bernhard L. Take care, Bill
I love the Transworld! I could see myself flying to the Orient on TWA with that watch on. Porter please get my bags. No not me my suit cases! lol
Leigh, the Transworld is a very cool watch. Great price too. I have a free ticket for you on TWA or PanAm ... take your choice. Take care, Bill
Great content ! Thanks Bill 🥃
My pleasure, Tim! Take care, Bill
As always, most inspiring Bill. I might just think about trading in my Michael Kors.
😂
🫣On No! Not the Michael Koss, Tuna!!!
Hi Bill and friends. Interesting video.
Bill, I’m sure you have heard of Garrick? Any opinions on this brand?
Hi Ardi, I was just looking at their own manufactured movement ... Garrick has come a long way. I like the looks of their 3Hz UT-G03 movement and their use of guilloché. Take care, Bill
hey biil how are ya ? great video mate thanks
Doing good Planet-E! Yourself as well I trust! Take care, Bill
Thank you Bill
I love looking at watches !
I really like the Christopher Columbus ⌚
My pleasure Junior! Take care, Bill
Good episode. Thanks, Bill.
Hey Eugene, thanks man! Take care, Bill
Interesting watches !
Thanks.⌚
My pleasure Thomas! Take care, Bill
In the past top watchmakers’ clients were royal families, aristocrats and industrialists. The everyday man couldn’t afford watches. The mid and lower class were passing watches as heirlooms. Was a big deal having that. Nowadays we are all pampered and think we should punch above our weight 😅 which in fact just the version of this trend has changed. We can add nouveau Riche to the bag now 😅. But no one stops us from appreciating great works on the hands of the super rich 😂
We don't have to be super-rich, Amatrice-just super smart and knowledgeable. 😉Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci true Bill
Great work👍
Hey Morton, thanks man! Take care, bill
The pricing strategy of most independent watchmakers nowadays is just to list their phone numbers plus a couple of zeros as the MSRP. Either that or their social insurance number.
In these circles cash is trash.
Cm'on Ivan ... let's hear something a little more horological from you. Take care, Bill
I prefer Claret. His creations really piss in the wind.
And those eta jobs with modules from these mad geniuses really just look like the homework you copied off a plagiarism site and handed in at the last minute.
Typo in title
Thanks JR ... I fixed it. Little things like that are hard to spot! Eagle eye! Take care, Bill
Good morning
Good morning to you Acquired Taste! Take care, Bill
I love your videos Bill, especially the ones where you take us into the depths of Watchmaking. Thank you very much. 🫂🫂🤩
Hey Jack D. thanks man! Take care, Bill