Now that was a review...nice job ...looking to get my 1st case trimmer been looking hard...every price from 90 bucks to 600... I'm glad to see someone comparing to an expensive one thank u for an honest review... been leaning towards this trimer..as you know reloading equipment can get very expensive so if I can save a buck on something that does a job just like a 600 dollar machine for a 150 bucks well guess which one do you think I want... lol..
Glad it could help you. As long as you don’t mind doing the deburr and chamfer separately then it’s a great system and will definitely save you a ton of money.
My case trim express is roughly 3 years old now and I do all my trimming on it, I have replaced the cutter once now and it does have some issues. I get a ratcheting sound sometimes and you have too watch the micrometer wheel because it has the tendency too walk on you, screwing up your length. But it’s solid for the money.
I’ve now trimmed approximately 700 5.56 brass and I’m experiencing a problem. I believe that the cutter has already gotten dull. I have to insert each piece of brass very, very slowly or the cutter will grab and after a terrible noise completely stop. This also throws the adjustment wheel way out of adjustment. I was hoping for much better and at first I was really impressed, but now I’m having buyer’s remorse.
You answered my questions on this. Why would one buy a manual lathe style trimmer and risk the guide tearing up the inside of the neck and take all that more time to resize when this one can be punched for abt $10 more. And it's trimming neck size not full length. Sold!
Nice job. I would have liked to see you dial it in from start to finish measuring the adjustments just to see if it really dials in as easy as you describe.
Yes, I still think for the money. It’s a great unit as long as you understand, it won’t chamfer or deburr at the same time. Also, I will be showing off a really cool new tool soon that you can turn this unit into for trimming bullets if you want to.
Yes I totally understand but again it’s a price point thing. I think for the price compared to anything else you can get, you would be extremely happy. But obviously there are tools out there that will do all three at the same time but they do cost more of course.
Likewise. The fact it does multiple calibers instead of just one, is a big plus. In addition to the Giraud Tri-Way I have mounted on an fast turning AC surplus motor, I made a drill adaptor for the RCBS Trim Pro. Changed the cutting head to the RCBS 3-way cutting and can trim cases pretty fast, but with unit and drill, it's a much larger bench top real estate need to operate. I may still get this as its one sale at MidSouth for $124. I have a DC motor with gear reduction and speed control mounted under the bench with a chuck and place the debur tool in it. so 2 of the operations would go fairly fast with this unit. After completion of the 2 stages of trimming and deburring or chamfering, I'd have to turn the tool around and complete the thrid stage of deburring or chamfering. The TrimPro with 3-way handles brass once. The Giraud TriWay handles brass once. Downside of the GTW is the need for a new one for every caliber, at least for those one does large volume reloading with.
Norma 6mm BR factory loaded ammunition for 300m target shooting is superbly accurate & used at world championship level. The cases are not chamfered by Norma before they load them (nor do they need de-burring if a correctly set high RPM cutter is used).
with your giraud it does length, inside/outside bevel simultaneously, correct? i work with a guy (jim) who shoots competitively. he has a gracey trimmer. it does the same work as the giraud. there isn't any edge on the outside of the case mouth following the trim. jim says that detail is important because any remaining edge "squeezes" the bullet upon chambering and then there is concern for over pressure issues. i have a lyman brass prep station. after i trim my brass on the manual rcbs case trimmer and chamfer and debur, i still have an edge on the exterior of the case mouth. i can feel it when i run my fingernail up the side of the case mouth. i've watched countless videos of those who duplicate my process but none ever mention anything about the remaining edge. i changed out the exterior case trimmer (debur) with a different brand but same result. what are your thoughts please.
I’ve never heard of the ‘edge’ causing pressure but it certainly doesn’t mean it doesn’t. For me I like the Giraud because it does leave a flat spot on the top of the neck and that does two things. One is it ensure there seating a bullet doesn’t cause copper to be scraped off. Second is having a flat top of the neck ensure there’s no knife edge to work harden weird at the top so it preserves the brass better. At least that’s how I see it. There could certainly be other factors at play that I’m not aware of as well.
Yeah it's a cool design and I get why people love it, but for me the Giraud is still the best high-end trimmer. It's more portable in terms of keeping under your bench, catches all your trimmings and costs nearly $300 less than the Henderson. The Giraud also doesn't require you to insert a case into a handle so there's less effort there too. Check out my Giraud videos and you'll see why I love them.
I just got one of these. I found that while pushing the case in to trim the adjustment dial will move. Any way to lock that dial or adjust the tension on it so it will stay put?
For the price absolutely. As I said in the video, I use something else that's about 7x the money but I 100% believe this is the best thing you can buy for under $200-300 right now and it's only $125 on average.
No. I doesn’t do either. That why I say for the money it’s tough to beat for the money but you still have to deburr and chamfer. To get anything they does all three you’ll need a Giraud.
It has a very strong detention as you adjust. Once it’s set it’s not going anywhere. If you listen on the video you should be able to hear the strong clicks as I turn it.
This was a better video and explanation than ultimate reloader. Great job 👍
The best explanation of this device on how it works , need to get one now , many thanks steve
It’s nice they engineered a case trimmer based on a pencil sharpener
Thanks for all your knowledge. You have upped my game more than anyone else on this platform.
Thank you for the kind words. I’m glad my videos have been helpful.
Now that was a review...nice job ...looking to get my 1st case trimmer been looking hard...every price from 90 bucks to 600... I'm glad to see someone comparing to an expensive one thank u for an honest review... been leaning towards this trimer..as you know reloading equipment can get very expensive so if I can save a buck on something that does a job just like a 600 dollar machine for a 150 bucks well guess which one do you think I want... lol..
Glad it could help you. As long as you don’t mind doing the deburr and chamfer separately then it’s a great system and will definitely save you a ton of money.
My case trim express is roughly 3 years old now and I do all my trimming on it, I have replaced the cutter once now and it does have some issues. I get a ratcheting sound sometimes and you have too watch the micrometer wheel because it has the tendency too walk on you, screwing up your length. But it’s solid for the money.
Excellent review John. I also have this trimmer, and I would agree with what John was calling out, very positive.
Thank you
Thank you for the vid, brother!
Very good rundown...
Thanks again
Nice review, I bought one and love it, certainly reasonably priced. Thank you
I’ve now trimmed approximately 700 5.56 brass and I’m experiencing a problem. I believe that the cutter has already gotten dull. I have to insert each piece of brass very, very slowly or the cutter will grab and after a terrible noise completely stop. This also throws the adjustment wheel way out of adjustment. I was hoping for much better and at first I was really impressed, but now I’m having buyer’s remorse.
You answered my questions on this. Why would one buy a manual lathe style trimmer and risk the guide tearing up the inside of the neck and take all that more time to resize when this one can be punched for abt $10 more. And it's trimming neck size not full length. Sold!
Nice job. I would have liked to see you dial it in from start to finish measuring the adjustments just to see if it really dials in as easy as you describe.
I've been looking at this unit for a while. If it is up to your standards it will definately fit my needs. Good review.
Yes, I still think for the money. It’s a great unit as long as you understand, it won’t chamfer or deburr at the same time. Also, I will be showing off a really cool new tool soon that you can turn this unit into for trimming bullets if you want to.
Thanks for showing this .
Glad it helped you.
I forgot to put the spring in, and its A LOT easier, and you can rotate it too. Try it, and let me know how you liked it.
Fantastic explanation thanks subscribed
Glad it helped!
Great review
Thank you
Was almost sold on this until I saw it did not chamfer/deburr ☹
Yes I totally understand but again it’s a price point thing. I think for the price compared to anything else you can get, you would be extremely happy. But obviously there are tools out there that will do all three at the same time but they do cost more of course.
Likewise. The fact it does multiple calibers instead of just one, is a big plus. In addition to the Giraud Tri-Way I have mounted on an fast turning AC surplus motor, I made a drill adaptor for the RCBS Trim Pro. Changed the cutting head to the RCBS 3-way cutting and can trim cases pretty fast, but with unit and drill, it's a much larger bench top real estate need to operate. I may still get this as its one sale at MidSouth for $124. I have a DC motor with gear reduction and speed control mounted under the bench with a chuck and place the debur tool in it. so 2 of the operations would go fairly fast with this unit. After completion of the 2 stages of trimming and deburring or chamfering, I'd have to turn the tool around and complete the thrid stage of deburring or chamfering. The TrimPro with 3-way handles brass once. The Giraud TriWay handles brass once. Downside of the GTW is the need for a new one for every caliber, at least for those one does large volume reloading with.
Norma 6mm BR factory loaded ammunition for 300m target shooting is superbly accurate & used at world championship level. The cases are not chamfered by Norma before they load them (nor do they need de-burring if a correctly set high RPM cutter is used).
Great review! I'm just not sure how consistent your results will be when measuring from the case shoulder.
Just picked up one of these for $120.00, whats the best bang for the buck motorized de-burring to go along with this? I have a hand de-burr tool atm.
Good video and review. Has the trimmer held up . Thanks
John do you trim new unfired cases ?
with your giraud it does length, inside/outside bevel simultaneously, correct? i work with a guy (jim) who shoots competitively. he has a gracey trimmer. it does the same work as the giraud. there isn't any edge on the outside of the case mouth following the trim.
jim says that detail is important because any remaining edge "squeezes" the bullet upon chambering and then there is concern for over pressure issues.
i have a lyman brass prep station. after i trim my brass on the manual rcbs case trimmer and chamfer and debur, i still have an edge on the exterior of the case mouth. i can feel it when i run my fingernail up the side of the case mouth.
i've watched countless videos of those who duplicate my process but none ever mention anything about the remaining edge. i changed out the exterior case trimmer (debur) with a different brand but same result.
what are your thoughts please.
I’ve never heard of the ‘edge’ causing pressure but it certainly doesn’t mean it doesn’t. For me I like the Giraud because it does leave a flat spot on the top of the neck and that does two things. One is it ensure there seating a bullet doesn’t cause copper to be scraped off. Second is having a flat top of the neck ensure there’s no knife edge to work harden weird at the top so it preserves the brass better. At least that’s how I see it. There could certainly be other factors at play that I’m not aware of as well.
Can it trim brass without a shoulder?
Do you think this would work for 6 dasher? BTW, much better review then ultimate reloader
Yeah it should. The number 13 bushing (which comes with the unit) covers Dasher.
@@FClassJohn thank you
@@wowitslou No problem and I'm glad you found the review helpful.
Did you have a Look at the Henderson Trimmer? I might get one. Thanks!
Yeah it's a cool design and I get why people love it, but for me the Giraud is still the best high-end trimmer. It's more portable in terms of keeping under your bench, catches all your trimmings and costs nearly $300 less than the Henderson. The Giraud also doesn't require you to insert a case into a handle so there's less effort there too. Check out my Giraud videos and you'll see why I love them.
F-Class John i would go wirh a giraud. But I live in Germany and dont have any clue how to get one over here.
Tobias Torsiglieri just find a friend who will buy one and ship it to you or are the import fees just crazy high?
F-Class John 30% to the price incl shipping. Bigger problem is to find someone to handle that for me 🤷🏻♂️
I just got one of these. I found that while pushing the case in to trim the adjustment dial will move. Any way to lock that dial or adjust the tension on it so it will stay put?
Not to my knowledge. There’s a detent in place that should be holding it securely. If it’s not working you may want to call Lyman.
got mine on sale a year or so ago i think it was $100
That’s a good deal.
Do they have one for the 6.5 PRC?
Yes they make a bushing for it. It’s a #19.
Do you still feel the same way about this trimmer
For the price absolutely. As I said in the video, I use something else that's about 7x the money but I 100% believe this is the best thing you can buy for under $200-300 right now and it's only $125 on average.
Hi John what Is bushing for 30 BR ?
I honestly have no idea. I would contact them and ask.
Does it simultaneously chamfer and deburr?
No. I doesn’t do either. That why I say for the money it’s tough to beat for the money but you still have to deburr and chamfer. To get anything they does all three you’ll need a Giraud.
Ok I bought one but the adjust wheel keeps moving won’t stay stabilised any suggestions or is it the same for all of them
I'm sorry but I'm not sure why that would be happening. You may want to contact them.
@@FClassJohn I took it back and they replaced it over the counter were I bought it mine was as loose as a goose new one is tight as
@@freedomisgolf5816 oh good.
Does the adjustment wheel hold its position being it doesnt have a detent?
It has a very strong detention as you adjust. Once it’s set it’s not going anywhere. If you listen on the video you should be able to hear the strong clicks as I turn it.
No it doesn’t. Having to adjust every other case
@@tonyjonas1 yup, mine has the same problem. 😠