Joe Friel: Science-Based Training Advice for Older Athletes - Part 1

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
  • // Key topics in this episode:
    00:00 - Intro
    05:54 - Healthspan vs. Lifespan
    08:39 - Hormonal changes affecting aging athletes
    12:00 - Age-related physical declines
    17:46 - Importance of weight lifting and varied activities
    24:02 - Emotional responses to aging as an athlete
    26:57 - Do older athletes respond to training?
    // GUEST
    For endurance athletes and coaches, Joe Friel needs no introduction. A legend in the endurance coaching profession, Joe is the author of some of the most successful books on endurance training, including "The Cyclist's Training Bible", "The Triathlete's Training Bible", and "Fast After 50". He was a founder of Peaksware, creator of TrainingPeaks software. As a coach, his clients have included elite amateur and professional road cyclists, mountain bikers, and triathletes and duathletes.
    // LINKS
    - Suggestions for the Aging Athlete - Joe Friel: joefrieltraining.com/suggesti...
    - Motivation: Thoughts on Training #5: Motivation - Joe Friel: joefrieltraining.com/thoughts...
    - Consistency: Thoughts on Training #3: Consistency Is Key - Joe Friel : joefrieltraining.com/thoughts...
    - FastTalk, Joe’s New Training Bible: www.fasttalklabs.com/fast-tal...
    - Joe Friel’s Blog: joefrieltraining.com/blog/
    - Fast After 50: Fast After 50 - Joe Friel: joefrieltraining.com/book/fas...
    - New Edition of The Triathlete’s Training Bible - Available January 2024 - Joe Friel: joefrieltraining.com/new-edit...
    - The "All New" Cyclist's Training Bible - Joe Friel: joefrieltraining.com/the-all-...
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    Adam Pulford has been a CTS Coach for nearly two decades and holds a B.S. in Exercise Physiology. He's participated in and coached hundreds of athletes for endurance events all around the world.
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  • @Gabrielle4870
    @Gabrielle4870 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    The concept of taking 10,000 steps a day as a fitness goal originated in Japan in the 1960s. It was popularized by a Japanese company called Yamasa Tokei Keiki, which produced a pedometer named "Manpo-kei," meaning "10,000 steps meter" in Japanese. The number 10,000 was chosen primarily for its simplicity and appeal rather than being based on scientific evidence. Over time, this goal has been widely adopted as a standard for daily physical activity, although individual needs can vary.

    • @gordonv.cormack3216
      @gordonv.cormack3216 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      But 10,000 was a pretty good guess. Arguably, you get almost as much benefit from 7,000, but 10,000 gives a bit more.

    • @philipvitkus2109
      @philipvitkus2109 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm an athlete with aging muscles, I've always said.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Anybody still eat Wonder Bread? This is a great example of what I'm talking about. "10,000 steps." In the '60's you buy a "Manpo-kei" pedometer made by Yamasa Tokei Keiki. Today (2024) you still chase those 10,000 steps, and you track it w/ a Fitbit by Google. Yet, very few are fit?

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gordonv.cormack3216 "Pretty good guess" for what?

    • @gordonv.cormack3216
      @gordonv.cormack3216 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldnatty61 Pretty good guess for how many steps you need to achieve most of the benefit. Arguably, you get diminishing returns after about 7,000 steps, so the extra 3,000 provide less benefit. Diminishing returns and all that.

  • @gcostagcosta
    @gcostagcosta 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Consistency is the key

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True, as long as what you're doing "constantly" sends the proper adaptive signal to your body that aligns w/ your training goal. Nowadays w/ all these online self proclaimed experts it can be hard to figure that out.

  • @philipvitkus2109
    @philipvitkus2109 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Consistent weight lifting can be achieved through 3x week commitment to work out in a fitness class at a gym.

  • @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557
    @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Word. Then there's that 70-year-old guy that competes in American Ninja Warrior

  • @philipvitkus2109
    @philipvitkus2109 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Consider walking with poles (Nordic walking-trekking), walking with weight vest.

    • @gybx4094
      @gybx4094 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes. I use old bamboo ski poles. It engages my upper body and it's safer, especial up and down hills. I put weights on my ankles and wrists.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Weight vest? Yes! But!, remember 1 lbs. at the end of a limb equals 5 lbs. on the body. Poles not so much, unless you need 'em? Instead look to Dr. Schwartz and Steve Reeves. What mad Superman so super?

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gybx4094 "I put weights on my ankles and wrists." So you simulate planet Krypton's conditions? I wonder what the out come of that would be?

    • @gregripp
      @gregripp 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should train with your goals in mind. Train with a road racing bike if you are going to road race bicycles, ski with your race skis if you are going to ski race (the right ones for your event obviously). Hike with the gear your going to carry on your hike. Weighted baseball bats, ankle weights are appropriate for using weighted baseball bats (why would you?) in sport and ankle weights could screw with your gate. A high intensity resistance training program may be the best all-around training method for older athletes. Consider reading Body by Science by Doug McGuff and John Little. They will give you an in depth explanation of the science of exercise. And remember, recovery makes you improve.

  • @CarnivoreDMD
    @CarnivoreDMD 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    WAS a semi pro triathlete in the 1990’s. Then a dad, business owner & had metabolic syndrome, NAFLD, arthritis, obese, sleep apnea…..eating raw Mediterranean diet.. then a kidney stone. Went KETO & regrew meniscus, & reversed ALL DISEASE. My max HR is the same now as it it was in 2001. Zone 2 70%, HIIT the rest 3x day. KetoVore. Red meat & avoiding plants has COMPLETELY changed my life & vitality.

    • @225rip
      @225rip 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here age 71, high A1C and Capp but ket0 for 4 years now and much better. Cac score 1000

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I see numbers, % signs, acronyms,, excuses, and stupidity.

    • @scarred10
      @scarred10 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All total nonsense,nothing can regrow meniscus and you cannot reverse arthtiris.Furthmore the med diet is the most proven diet for health,you didnt get any kidmey stone from diet,dehydration is a major factor

  • @evanshaw17
    @evanshaw17 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Please read the latest research on people over 50 only doing max workouts 15-20 percent of the time and actually not at all as they lead to damage to the heart that cannot be reversed. I am 75 and ride25 miles a day at 20-25 mph but not at my maximum. I was a pro racer as a young man.

  • @bobbullethalf
    @bobbullethalf 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The couch and TV or being active? I take being active.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You could have both if you want?

  • @philipvitkus2109
    @philipvitkus2109 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Even Jesus was a peripatetic teacher. 😊

    • @gybx4094
      @gybx4094 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yup. He walked everywhere, never riding horses.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very good!👍

  • @EastbayGolfer
    @EastbayGolfer 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Our ancestors moved a lot , true, and the life expectancy was like 40.

    • @joehamilton464
      @joehamilton464 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Irrelevant. Life expectancy has changed mainly because of improvements in medical care and disease control.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it was less than that?

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joehamilton464 Totally relevant!? Exactly his point.

    • @MatzeMumpitz
      @MatzeMumpitz 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And now think how old they could have become if they had had the living conditions of today.

  • @cyclingfreak56
    @cyclingfreak56 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Where’s the science?🤔

    • @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557
      @scottheitmanmarinesurvey3557 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Did you even listen? 23:30

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Sciences" is a creation of our hard work putting our kids through school. You want to be fit? Leave science alone. Use what our Grandparents gave us. Common sense.

    • @MojoGene
      @MojoGene 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Where's the science, indeed. This is a 30-minutes waste of time. It could have been summarized in 30 seconds -- getting old is affects performance, dig in your heels and get off your butt and you will slow the process down.

    • @jacklauren9359
      @jacklauren9359 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MojoGeneif you think you can have the same strength and fitness as you age then you are delusional 😂 common sense is not so common right?

  • @philipvitkus2109
    @philipvitkus2109 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Science"- repeatable observations- does not prove anything evolutionary - anything with the theory of evolution.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Science" is a modern construct designed to replace commonsenses.

    • @terrymcmaster2787
      @terrymcmaster2787 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Relevance?

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it does?

  • @oldnatty61
    @oldnatty61 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Conventional endurance training is the worst choice for older athletes. Consequently make sure you understand this and know why you're doing it.

    • @johndavies7626
      @johndavies7626 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What is a better choice for older athletes?

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@johndavies7626 Some Form of shorter duration higher intensity circuit training mixed w/ lower intensity recovery days. Doesn't mean you can't bike or do some other form of endurance training. Just can't build a program around it.

    • @johndavies7626
      @johndavies7626 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldnatty61 build a program around?

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johndavies7626 First this is just an example off the top of my head. This is for a fit advanced trainee. Everything is scalable. You've got to start where you're at and build up slowly. Also, there's 1000 and 1 ways to do this. On m and f do. (Squat x 15, pull-up x 5, push-up x 10) x 10. On t walk. On w short to medium bike interval workout. th walk. s or sn longer hard bike.

    • @oldnatty61
      @oldnatty61 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johndavies7626 I did?

  • @ohthatshim
    @ohthatshim 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Question: why every single "science yapper" looks either like a Homer Simpson or like one of those worms from "Men in Black" when they clip a gentle age of say 45? Could it be that they dont actually know jack?