Real reasons for optimism: - Defensive front is ELITE - Front 7 is one of the best in the NFL - Secondary is young and really athletic. - OL with the addition of Carmen Bricillo and the players they added should be at least an average unit - Brian Daboll is calling plays on Offense and will cater to Jones strengths - Malik Nabers, Wan’Dale Robinson, Jalin Hyatt and Darius Slayton are the best receiving corp Jones ever had also compliment each other really well. - running game can be effective having a change of pace 1/2 punch instead of saquon being a workhorse - expectations are low Can realistically see 9-8 or a 10-7 season
Haha this is to funny. Doesn't matter how good the defense is when you have no run game. Or when Jones steps up into the defender while fans blame the line. Can't wait to laugh again as the team quits on Jones again for the 4th year in a row.
The thing is every offseason it feels like they're getting better and then everything that can go wrong does go wrong once the games matter. We were saying similar things about the Giants this time last year.
I disagree with Sam's point about adding more bodies to the OL. The chances that the current players on the OL are actually bad is low. It's MUCH LIKLIER that these players were poorly developed. The Giants fixed that by releasing Bobby Johnson and hiring Brusillo. Can't draft OL until Brusillo has proven he can develop our players first.
I don't care how good of a coach CB is. We have a talent problem. Passing up Beebe, and Haynes for yet another nickel corner was a mistake and it will hurt. Again. When this team learns 🤷♂
@@ajkareem5685 It's much more likely that Neal was improperly developed, than that he's a bad player. Is JMS a "bad" player too? He had a lackluster season. Andrew Thomas had to get coaching outside of the organization before he got better. Evan Neal was never the problem. The Giants, and their nepotism, really showed with how long Bobby Johnson was allowed to be employed by Big Blue.
@@khawarsiddiqui341 I actually believe we should've leaned harder into a DEFENSIVE draft to force turnovers, 3 & outs, to give our offense more possessions. I wanted a heavily defensive draft.
@@khawarsiddiqui341we have drafted more OL in the past 10 yrs than any other team. It is def a coaching problem. Im excited for Carm, seems to be a a real coach
Day 3 of OTA's, Eleumenor is playing LG and Runyon is playing RG, with Neal playing RT. This is a surprise and somewhat confusing. Granted, it's only one day of practice but, if they keep the line this way, with Andrew Thomas at LT and John Michael Schmitz playing Center, who will be their swing tackle?
@@ajkareem5685 I hope that is all it is. I was hoping the Giants would have Neal and Eleumenor compete for the starting job and award it to the player who performs the best - the other player would be the backup/swing tackle. The O-line is still a concern of mine because the performance of the entire offense hinges upon the performance of this unit. I guess I'll be anxious until I see it perform well in the regular season. We'll see how it goes - thanks.
My optimism is all dried up! I've defended this team to no end for years now... The OL still needs help.... And we let saquon Barkley go.. that's not cool with me. I'm not to enthusiastic
I really hope the Giants find a way to pull the potential out of Isaiah Simmons. He is too good of an athlete and there has to be a way to unlock this kid in the defense. Giants defense has some glaring holes in the secondary so I hope the front is going to get to the QB quickly. I’m one of those that is not sold on Daniel Jones but I hope I’m wrong. Nabers is great and can be a huge asset but I have to see Jones consistently play well. The offensive line has been terrible but he has to figure out a way to move that offense. Hope this season starts well!
The Giants may have gotten better at the supporting casts but Daniel Jones still is trash. And is guaranteed to get more touches than the other supporting casts. So are the Giants rebuilding or all in? Either way it's not the right way. It's obvious that Daniel Jones is gone after this year. Who are they getting to replace him? A free agent QB? Going to select the 5th best QB in next year draft?
@@richrucci6908 Barkley missed most of those starts, too. You think Taylor or Tommy win with Brieda/Gray with Josh Ezeudu at LT? Those guys beat the Dolphins in Miami, at SF, and the Seahawks?
There is no reason for optimism. 12 seasons have elapsed since the last Super Bowl win. The two playoff games in between, well a broken clock is right twice a day. The organization has been inept for more than a decade at this point and I see no signs that is changing or getting better. I have no reason to believe that any decision that they make is the right one.
Giants will finish last. Top 5 draft pick. Gm Joke Shame and Dumpy Daboll will be fired. Jones will be cut. 2025 Bill Belichek will take over for total rebuild (that should've happened 6 years ago)
@@chriscallahan5699the Giants have drafted a first round OT, third round OG, fifth round OG, and a second round C. Guys have to develop. They already had a AP caliber LT.
Real reasons for optimism:
- Defensive front is ELITE
- Front 7 is one of the best in the NFL
- Secondary is young and really athletic.
- OL with the addition of Carmen Bricillo and the players they added should be at least an average unit
- Brian Daboll is calling plays on Offense and will cater to Jones strengths
- Malik Nabers, Wan’Dale Robinson, Jalin Hyatt and Darius Slayton are the best receiving corp Jones ever had also compliment each other really well.
- running game can be effective having a change of pace 1/2 punch instead of saquon being a workhorse
- expectations are low
Can realistically see 9-8 or a 10-7 season
Perfect break down
I LIKE IT!
Haha this is to funny. Doesn't matter how good the defense is when you have no run game. Or when Jones steps up into the defender while fans blame the line. Can't wait to laugh again as the team quits on Jones again for the 4th year in a row.
I got them going 8-9 best case scenario 9-8
2nd in NFC EAST, wildcard team
is this the twighlight zone,they are talking well about the giants
The thing is every offseason it feels like they're getting better and then everything that can go wrong does go wrong once the games matter. We were saying similar things about the Giants this time last year.
Its injuries that have ruined such optimism for the past decade
Jones is so selfish that players give up and they loose the locker room. The guy takes a sack over an incomplete pass.
I disagree with Sam's point about adding more bodies to the OL. The chances that the current players on the OL are actually bad is low.
It's MUCH LIKLIER that these players were poorly developed. The Giants fixed that by releasing Bobby Johnson and hiring Brusillo. Can't draft OL until Brusillo has proven he can develop our players first.
Im not gonna let Neal get a good coach fired tho
I don't care how good of a coach CB is. We have a talent problem. Passing up Beebe, and Haynes for yet another nickel corner was a mistake and it will hurt. Again. When this team learns 🤷♂
@@ajkareem5685 It's much more likely that Neal was improperly developed, than that he's a bad player. Is JMS a "bad" player too? He had a lackluster season. Andrew Thomas had to get coaching outside of the organization before he got better.
Evan Neal was never the problem. The Giants, and their nepotism, really showed with how long Bobby Johnson was allowed to be employed by Big Blue.
@@khawarsiddiqui341 I actually believe we should've leaned harder into a DEFENSIVE draft to force turnovers, 3 & outs, to give our offense more possessions. I wanted a heavily defensive draft.
@@khawarsiddiqui341we have drafted more OL in the past 10 yrs than any other team. It is def a coaching problem. Im excited for Carm, seems to be a a real coach
Let us hope, DJ can run, like he did in 2022!
THANK YOU 💯 finally no DJ hate❤ yes this is the year we take it deep into the playoffs 💯 GO GIANTS 💙
Day 3 of OTA's, Eleumenor is playing LG and Runyon is playing RG, with Neal playing RT. This is a surprise and somewhat confusing. Granted, it's only one day of practice but, if they keep the line this way, with Andrew Thomas at LT and John Michael Schmitz playing Center, who will be their swing tackle?
Maybe cuz we know elu can play tackle, We still dont know if neal can. So we are testing him to see if he improved at all.
@@ajkareem5685 I hope that is all it is. I was hoping the Giants would have Neal and Eleumenor compete for the starting job and award it to the player who performs the best - the other player would be the backup/swing tackle. The O-line is still a concern of mine because the performance of the entire offense hinges upon the performance of this unit. I guess I'll be anxious until I see it perform well in the regular season. We'll see how it goes - thanks.
This just confirms what I suspected. They will keep the grass eating lion, Evan Neal in there at RT until the wheels come off. Again.
Elumenor is listed as the starter for LG. We need him at RT! Neal ain't it!
My optimism is all dried up! I've defended this team to no end for years now... The OL still needs help.... And we let saquon Barkley go.. that's not cool with me. I'm not to enthusiastic
I really hope the Giants find a way to pull the potential out of Isaiah Simmons. He is too good of an athlete and there has to be a way to unlock this kid in the defense. Giants defense has some glaring holes in the secondary so I hope the front is going to get to the QB quickly. I’m one of those that is not sold on Daniel Jones but I hope I’m wrong. Nabers is great and can be a huge asset but I have to see Jones consistently play well. The offensive line has been terrible but he has to figure out a way to move that offense. Hope this season starts well!
Best reason for optimism: great chance at the number 1 pick
And a new GM and Coach in Bill Belichek
To pick who???
His time has passed man. Process over results. Schoen is doing well.
@@fulaan1Shedeur 😂
Pick 1 is not really necessary to grab the top QB in next draft, unless one of the QBs just blows up this season.
The Giants may have gotten better at the supporting casts but Daniel Jones still is trash. And is guaranteed to get more touches than the other supporting casts. So are the Giants rebuilding or all in? Either way it's not the right way.
It's obvious that Daniel Jones is gone after this year. Who are they getting to replace him? A free agent QB? Going to select the 5th best QB in next year draft?
Eleumanor needs to play RT.
Success goes through the O line. I'm not sure they have fixed it with switching players like musical chairs.
Crazy that Tommy DeVito and Tyrod Taylor could look better than Daniel Jones w the same o-line
Um, no. Andrew Thomas was healthy for one drive with Jones at the helm.
@@CometVS AT does make the whole o-line better, hope stays healthy. Same weapons though
@@richrucci6908 Barkley missed most of those starts, too. You think Taylor or Tommy win with Brieda/Gray with Josh Ezeudu at LT? Those guys beat the Dolphins in Miami, at SF, and the Seahawks?
@@CometVSyall always have excuses for that clown.
I’m at least exited to see the nabers and how good the dline gets with burns
Optimism for years? Haven’t felt any in years so why would you give me hope now?
"Tommy is freed up to do morale" Look up the DeVito tailgate party. The whole family can bring it! 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yall do Daniel Jones dirty with these pics
Sam Monson hates Daniel Jones ! And the Oline ! Even in a Optimism show the man was ready to throw Jones and the Giant's out of a car window ! 😂
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
None of it matters if Even Neal gets beat badly every play.
Sam Monson really doesn't know why Waller is leaning on retiring? Do some research, man.
The only reason for optimism is that after 2024 Daniel Turnovers will NO LONGER BE A GIANT 😂😅
Soooooo Sick of hearing DJ Stinks up that org!
Drafting Jones and Barkley were huge mistakes they are the faces of losing
Drew Lock QB1
Yikes
Nothing to be excited about. Janiel Dones is still the quarterback.
Yall just making up stuff on this show
He is garbage and wink was a to DC in the nfl
Delusional
Giants will finish last in the NFCE. Jones set us back another 3 to 5 years.
No. Gettlefraud did.
And the TRASH O line.
Dj is the only reason the Giants won a playoff game in a decade
There is no reason for optimism. 12 seasons have elapsed since the last Super Bowl win. The two playoff games in between, well a broken clock is right twice a day. The organization has been inept for more than a decade at this point and I see no signs that is changing or getting better. I have no reason to believe that any decision that they make is the right one.
Until i see one series of consistent blocking, we won’t be going anywhere no matter how good nabers is
Giants will finish last.
Top 5 draft pick.
Gm Joke Shame and Dumpy Daboll will be fired. Jones will be cut.
2025 Bill Belichek will take over for total rebuild (that should've happened 6 years ago)
Dallas drafted 3 o lineman. We drafted 0.tell me how that makes sense. Joe's terrible
@@chriscallahan5699the Giants have drafted a first round OT, third round OG, fifth round OG, and a second round C. Guys have to develop. They already had a AP caliber LT.
@@CometVS no you keep throwing bodies at the problem...for depth and for starters