You guys are only proving you never had a principled objection to Republicans or Donald Trump at any point. You are just fueled by hate. Zero principles.
He’s already pardoned his criminal son, ignited ww3 and per amnesty international, overseen a genocide. What more can he do? Hopefully The Hague is paying attention
I’m pleasantly surprised that David is slamming these shameless, selfish and clueless parasites. Good job. This is a wider problem with the entire consultant class, corporate media, party establishment and the destructive effect of corporate donors on the democratic party.
Usually, he's so focused on trump that he rarely criticizes the dems, and when he does, he usually sides with the establishment politicians. I hope this loss shifts him more to the left.
David pushed some of these talking points himself. Every Democrat, leaning news media, which is most of them, and most sites like this one, pushed our awesome economy right now, when no one in the right mind thought it was awesome. It might’ve been awesome to wall Streeters, but not to the regular guy on the street.
Reminder that the left thinks a preteen can choose to transition without parental consent but an 18yr old college student can't possibly understand the loan they just took.
Tyler Hackner(tylerhackner9731) stole your comment, and since he's a channel member, his is prioritized over yours. He stole it within a minute of your posting.
@@Nolelife247 Why are you so worried about dudes in dresses? Did you believe those commercials Trump put out during the campaign? I am assuming you did believe them.
@@CletusVanDamme-n9m Cause the trans agenda is a losing strategy and an easy target to show how far left the party is going. Wouldn’t surprise me if the LBTGQ community drops the T and be known as LBGQ community in the future.
The Democrats has FOUR YEARS to think ahead to 2024, and Joe or Kamala was the best thoughts they had? No offense...this is pretty shocking. Also...Joe Biden could have worked to "baby-proof" the White House against a toddler like Trump...but, nah! While Republicans lust for abuse of power, Democrats act like they don't want to be there. Oh well. Smh.
There's nothing wrong in and of itself with reliance on data. The problems are that the data may not be accurate and that it is subject to varying interpretations.
They say what they think will have them hired again. Blame the conservatives, blame the progressives, blame minorities but never admit fault including running a terrible campaign
The mere fact that these people worked to keep Biden in the race after the debate is as damning an indictment of their competence (and their morality) as can be.
You know, David, these people who were in charge of Kamala's campaign have a lot of excuses but no solutions. Excuses are only for losers and solutions are for winners. At this point, no one wants to hear their lame excuses. They seem to embrace failures as an option. They lack a winning mindset. Without a winning mindset, they basically set themselves up for failure from the beginning.
@@DP-qf6bb That's why Trump should have lost instead of using ex-cons to round up migrants like it's the 1840s. Giving illiterate scumbags government jobs is definitely workfare if not welfare.
I'm hoping Wikler can become chair. He wants to bring back the 50 state strategy, more focus on the economy and a permanent campaign like the republicans do. His interview with the folks over at the Bulwark is interesting. It's not a total revamp but it is several steps in the right direction.
Under normal circumstances I would send this message to Finnish foreign minister Elina Valtonen and Huvudstadsbladet but because it has become clear to me that the world elite wants the next generation to learn how the real world works I will post it here. I am also learning on the job. I believe I mentioned this fact at R/Prague when I got into an argument with people over whether or not the EU should bring back national currencies. I am for it and I am for that Finland will eventually adopt the Swedish Krona to show that we are not some sort of fucking backwards country that is part of Russia. Russia is also not some sort of shithole country like certain states of the US. We (I am not Russian by the way although my cousin Markus is a Swede of partial Finnish and Russian descent) have great culture like Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Dostoevsky, Pushkin, etc. also I’d look into the chaos that ensued in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union before I’d criticised Putin too harshly. Also, I’d look up Kemi Badenoch and Enoch Powell especially the 1968 Rivers of Blood speech and take a good long hard look and ponder what I am insinuating. I was recently in Prague and visited my “old dear friend Reinhard” who had broken his leg in an automobile accident. We do want to give Kamala Harris a clean slate and not be bordered by past mistakes made by previous administrations but we will not bend over and let you fuck us without being paid properly. As part of the Ukraine peace talk I could propose that the Eastern European state (including Russia, Greece, and Hungary) form a Warsaw Pact Defence Union together with China. And I don’t want to hear any bitching from the common people this is a starting point for negotiations there are loads of details that needs to be gone through properly. Also I will not go to Stockholm tomorrow or today or in the immediate future. This is a red line that you’ve crossed there will be repercussions. I am planning to be in Manchester from the 12th to the 16th and while there watch the Manchester Derby. This is a red line you do not want to cross. I am Alexander Marius von Mannheim and this is not a joke. I am the private secretary of Alexander Julius Dahlmeier. Elina Valtonen can confirm. I’d also ask Paul Barbato from Geography Now about recent emails I have sent him.
Exactly, David! These people must go. They do not even take responsibility for their mistakes, they are still defending everything they did although it was obviously wrong. THEY MUST GO.
Under normal circumstances I would send this message to Finnish foreign minister Elina Valtonen and Huvudstadsbladet but because it has become clear to me that the world elite wants the next generation to learn how the real world works I will post it here. I am also learning on the job. I believe I mentioned this fact at R/Prague when I got into an argument with people over whether or not the EU should bring back national currencies. I am for it and I am for that Finland will eventually adopt the Swedish Krona to show that we are not some sort of fucking backwards country that is part of Russia. Russia is also not some sort of shithole country like certain states of the US. We (I am not Russian by the way although my cousin Markus is a Swede of partial Finnish and Russian descent) have great culture like Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Dostoevsky, Pushkin, etc. also I’d look into the chaos that ensued in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union before I’d criticised Putin too harshly. Also, I’d look up Kemi Badenoch and Enoch Powell especially the 1968 Rivers of Blood speech and take a good long hard look and ponder what I am insinuating. I was recently in Prague and visited my “old dear friend Reinhard” who had broken his leg in an automobile accident. We do want to give Kamala Harris a clean slate and not be bordered by past mistakes made by previous administrations but we will not bend over and let you fuck us without being paid properly. As part of the Ukraine peace talk I could propose that the Eastern European state (including Russia, Greece, and Hungary) form a Warsaw Pact Defence Union together with China. And I don’t want to hear any bitching from the common people this is a starting point for negotiations there are loads of details that needs to be gone through properly. Also I will not go to Stockholm tomorrow or today or in the immediate future. This is a red line that you’ve crossed there will be repercussions. I am planning to be in Manchester from the 12th to the 16th and while there watch the Manchester Derby. This is a red line you do not want to cross. I am Alexander Marius von Mannheim and this is not a joke. I am the private secretary of Alexander Julius Dahlmeier. Elina Valtonen can confirm. I’d also ask Paul Barbato from Geography Now about recent emails I have sent him.
anyone in the real world would be fired if they were as incompetent at their job as these people are at theirs. Listening to the campaign's post mortem on pod save America was absurdly infuriating
@@singed8853 100%. Chameleon for sure. Kamala seems to have no care values. That's why her campaign was completely focused on the "numbers" as opposed to her vision. People also saw that in the 2020 primary, which is why she finished 16th...16th! On top of that, she's not particularly charismatic or confident, either.
Given Biden's age, there was a chance that he would die in office and Harris would become President. How this did not even enter anyone's mind is...there are no words for it.
@@singed8853 people should be paid in accordance with the level of job, but they need to be good enough to get that job if the first place and when the fail they need to be fired.
David, none of what these people are saying about the campaign matters to people who do the little bit of homework needed to pick Kamala over trump. A trump voter just emailed another creator on why he voted the way he did - you know what he said? NO REASON! He said he didn't do any research, he didn't think trump would win. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM.
Yes!! The uneducated. Successive governments have failed to invest in education for decades now, to the point where the average working class American is incapable of critical or rational thought.
These people shitting on Biden and Harris are the problem! They clearly can’t listen to people on the ground and moved Kamala’s framing of herself to be too elitism but honestly, Trump was unbeatable regardless because the democrats were all shitting on each other the entire time trying to be right, while the republicans and apathetic took this election as a joke. This wasn’t Biden or Harris’s fault, it was the staffers and podcast people around her feeding into apathy. Now we are looking in retrospect asking people to not give up after they had some permission to give up
Lost the House,the Senate, the White House and all seven battleground states, great idea to keep all those people. And the most humiliating thing was that,Lara Trump was helping to run the Trump campaign 🤢🤮
And give them substantial raises. And maybe a holiday brick of gourmet chocolate ice cream from Nancy Pelosi's designer freezer. Job well done! But next time, make sure Trump gets a clear cut majority
@@September2004 it would’ve been a slam dunk if we had a different candidate. We have to face up to the fact that America is not going to elect a black woman at this time. It’s stupid and it’s unfortunate but it’s the truth. We need to move a little more towards the center in my opinion.
I suspect, though I haven't done the research to back it up, but Harris ran the furthest right of any democratic presidential candidate (relative to the time) since before the party switch. At least post-DNC that is, pre-DNC was different.
@@billhorstkamp98 You make a positive case for them and don't be afraid to associate with them, but also give people actual improvement in their lives from infrastructure to the economy. If you don't counter-message your opponents then they're the ones defining the narrative on a topic. For this strategy working look at Beshear in Kentucky.
They need to move center on a few issues related to identity politics like trans issues. But absolutely they need to move left in most areas, especially populist economic topics
Wow! I just leaned some amazing things in this video. They knew they were driving straight at rock wall and all they had were excuses why they could not change direction. This is CRAZY! Never, ever bring back people that couldn’t effectively steer. I’m 2024, if we can have real elections, we will need innovation and follow: “winning isn’t the most important thing, it’s the only thing”
Absolute loser mentality on these folks. They all need to be fired from Democratic campaigning. When will folks in the party realize that voters want CHANGE
Being hired exclusively to plan a political campaign and sitting on your hands after that debate melts my brain. You would at least start planning contingencies then if not before.
As much as I want to give these people a fair shake due to having only 107 days to put together a winning campaign, the failed miserably at understanding the battlefield that was in front of them. You fight in the battlefield that is presented to you. And on that they failed.
Moving to the left moves in the direction of HELPING people. Moving to the right moves in the direction of hate, division, and tax cuts for the rich. You either want to help people or sow hatred and division. There is no middle.
I was a campaign organizer for Obama in 2012 and Hillary in 2016. It's not about "which way" the campaign should go, it's about how all-consuming the campaign should be. From 2012 to 2016 I noticed a huge drop-off in the intensity, in the outreach, in the persuasion aspect of the campaigns. Since 2016, it's become much more surgical, timid, unsure of itself. Our next candidate, whoever ends up leading our party in 2028, the campaign itself needs to be everywhere, everything, all at once. A political campaign needs to be a cultural moment that touches everywhere. The other side needs to be tired of seeing our person's face, hearing our person's voice. That's what's missing.
no, it's not. they ran an incompetent person with a terrible platform that no one wanted, especially Dems. Dems rejected her quickly in 2019. Dem elites tried to get her off 2024 when Biden announced he was running again but got boxed in with identity politics. She didn't have a primary in 2020 or 2024. On top of that - SHE KNEW HE HAD DEMENTIA and lied to the American people for 5 years to advance her own career in 2020 and protect it in 2024. Collusion+Coup= Treason.
I'm curious about your opinion of this: for the 2020 election, Ezra Klein wrote a piece for the New York times that basically said that Republicans no longer have to appeal to the center of the American electorate. But Democrats can't survive unless they appeal to the center. Since you've had experience on a campaign, do you think the surgical approach makes it harder or maybe even impossible to appeal to the center of the American electorate? I also can't help feeling that the extremism in our electoral system, which a lot of experts blame on the way we run primaries, has so alienated people who aren't animated by politics that they just stopped voting. Don't get me wrong, my basic experience of Americans is that they simply don't have any faith in our political system. They feel like our government is pretty much run by billionaires. I don't know that I disagree with them. But I am curious what you think about Klein's opinion on Republicans being able to abandon the center, and Democrats being beholden to the center.
@lucindabreeding I do believe Republicans no longer have to appeal to the middle ground because they have successfully, through Trump, rebranded themselves as a cultural movement that cuts across demographics. One big difference from 2012 to 2016. In 2012 when we would make persuasion calls to undecided/ lean-right voters, if they weren't voting for Obama they would say, "I'm a Republican so I'm voting for Romney" or they would say simply, "I'm voting Republican." In 2016, the few persuasion calls we did make, every single one of them said, "I'm voting for Trump", "I'm with Trump." There was a personal connection that - hearing the difference - really shook me and I think in some ways made election night 2016 not as shocking for me. And 2024, not shocked at all. I think we're in a new Era of politics where politics is now part of the culture, its not a once every four year or two year thing for voters. I don't think anymore any demographic - racial, economic or even political leaning - can be written off or assumed to be on board.
@@lucindabreeding The reason for it is who each party is targeting. In the last four US presidential elections, the GOP has progressively targeted the "non-voters", the nearly 40% of the population which *could vote*, but do not... the reason the "likely voters" based polls failed every year. The last time the DNC did that was in 2012... when it helped President Obama win again. In 2016, those new voters overwhelmingly supported Sanders over Senator Clinton... it was center and center right voters which were old GOP that supported the continuation of the old ways. And so, as part of vilifying the "Bernie Bros", they abandoned their new voter focus. Ex GOP and right leaning independent "likely voters" make up only 25% of the possible votes... but their strategy makes every vote there the focus. I am seeing 3-5% of Donald's turnout being new voters again this year... but his totals were within a million of his last year, meaning he lost 2-4% of his previous voter base. But he can do that. At the same time, Harris lost 10 million votes, nearly 10% of her total... and she did not make up that loss as easily by reaching out to the center.
@@lucindabreeding " They feel like our government is pretty much run by billionaires" - viewing from the outside it feels like the Libertarian narrative has won out, that any and all government is just an intrusive waste of money to a huge amount of the electorate. People blame the FDA for failures for example, but instead of wanting to fund it properly to give more power, it feels like more people push for punitive action against the agency
9:39 Stephanie Cutter is saying "we were going to go to the press and throw Kamala under the bus if at any point she distanced herself from Biden." That is the only way there could possibly have been stories in the press about what Kamala did or said internally on specific issues.
So dismissive. Want us to lose again? Not even close to everyone who voted for Trump is cultish in any way. Those are the people we need to be talking to and more importantly listening to.
It didn’t make any difference who managed her campaign. She said on national TV that she wouldn’t do anything differently from what Biden has done, at the same time 70% of the country say we’re on the wrong track. Stop with the blame game, she simply is not qualified!!!
And what ? Trump is ?? If Biden was a bit more full of vigor; maybe he could've won. But when you compare Harris to Trump; Continuing with the same (as in Biden) is DEFINTINELY better than the Circus crossed with a S**tshow that's coming for Amrica now !
I don’t think they realized that if you are loyal to Biden the most important thing is to protect his legacy and that also means you have to throw him under the bus to win. Winning means you get to preserve his policies. Losing means it’s all going to be tarnished.
Wisdom in hindsight is easy, I mean when was the last time a nominee (who is the only guy who has beat Trump in a presential election) quit the race so late? All bets were off, a well planned 'plan B' couldn't have gone any better. Kamala was the most obvious candidate under the circumstances. I doubt any other candidate (including Biden) could have done better.
“Ax” Pluoff and Carvile have to go - they acted like this was 2008, their heads are in the sand, these celebrity rallies, short rallies, not messaging properly not using social media properly. They’re freaking ridiculous.
2 of the 3 people you just listed have zero to do with the campaign. The decision to not go on Joe Rogan was a bigger mistake than anything you listed. She should have done dozens of more interviews, including with David. She needed way more exposure, as well as a focus on housing and tangible affordability crisis issues. The consultants stiffened her up way too much with a risk averse approach Moreover, I am not sure why so many democratic folks have chosen to ignore the words of the only two democratic campaigns who’ve been reelected since FDR. Bernie Sanders claims to have only the answers and when he loses national elections he says they’re rigged. Sound familiar?
These staffers ran a perfect campaign if it was 1992-2008. And I even thought that they did enough to have won the swing states that elected a Democratic senator.
Who is popular.. that's the only thing democrats should know about their picks. At this point almost all the "evil" people are republicans, you just need to win!
Should have gone to Biden after he dropped out and agreed to areas where they could move him closer to the fire so Harris would have been able to have a reasonable conversation on interviews. So simple.
Its not about going more left or staying centerist, it needs to do both! Take the policies that Americans REALLY support. Stop letting the Right define us. Support good, supportable policy wherever you find it.
Lets face it most American voters could not tell you in detail a policy there choice is proposing, its all just a popularity contest running on feels. They were googling "what is a traffic" and "can I change my vote! the day after the election.
I sent emails to the campaign manager about this guy. He knows nothing about political campaigns on a large. Perhaps they thought because he ran the Warnock campaign
David buddy I watch your show regularly but you can’t be doing any kinda post mortem at all. You were like one of the biggest “Biden isn’t senile it’s not a problem” guys. In fact the entire post debate period, check your videos. It was all about Trump being senile. Refused to engage with the crux of the issue which is Biden gave us Trump.
My thought is it's less about an ideological shift that we need and more of a messaging shift. We need to make sure that every person running is able to deliver the messaging that resonates with their constituents, so we can get people to the polls. If we can get the independents, great, and if we can speak to the needs of the people that believe themselves republican because they always have been, great. But we need to get the message OUT for all the victories we can point out and show the people HOW we fight in their interests regardless of what side of the aisle they are on. Like the CHIPS act and IRA. Point out how their own republican representatives voted AGAINST them, screwing their own people if the votes weren't there on our side.
Blaming the voter for your campaign losing is like a creepy guy who blames women for his being single. It's a gross look. It's a weak look. And it's not going to win you any dates in the future. We need new leadership that owns their results and acknowledges the importance of addressing and delivering on the needs of the voting public.
Agree with most of this. I think more than anything, the DNC needs to figure out how to use social media effectively to reach low information voters like the Trump campaign did.
I’ve worked for both Republican and Democratic administrations. Republicans generally governed on the same issues and promises they made when they campaigned for election. Democrats, on the other hand, campaign on promises they believe appeal to “average folk” (their supposed constituents) then pursue policies that favor their major donors, economic and cultural elites, and industry once they are in office. That worked for a long time but I think “average folk” have struggled economically for so long that we all now see the distance between what Democrats promise to do if elected and what they actually do when elected. If Democrats want to regain the support of the people, they need candidates who actually represent us, who will govern on our behalf, and will actually fight for us even against the interests of the elites and those who serve them. There cannot be any distance between the promises they make and the results they deliver.
I disagree that a year out Kamala would've been the obvious replacement for Biden. That would've been plenty of time to organize a somewhat abridged primary, and with Nancy Pelosi's help Gavin Newsom could've easily stepped in.
Can't have an abridged primary that people could vote in as those are set by state laws. I suppose an open convention was a possibility, but that could have been a major disaster. (And before anybody asks what I mean by "major" I mean worse than what happened.)
@emsleywyatt3400 I've heard this talking point before but I refuse to believe that with as much time as a year out that the entire Democratic party would just throw their hands up and say there's nothing they could do. If state laws govern primaries then pass the necessary state laws.
Idk why people keep thinking Gavin Newsom is the answer. He'll get crushed in a general election. He's a modern era California Democrat. That is all the label he needs for people to immediately think of high prices, high taxes and high crime. We can dispute if those labels are true or not, but that's the label that would absolutely reaonate with most voters
Did they ever speak to a voter? Or did literally every meeting take place behind closed doors with no access to the outside world where they would all just argue with each other. It was clear as day the precise moment the consultants took over! The very moment!!
Assuming mid-terms will be allowed, there very well may be a backlash from MAGA when they are well into their FO phase. I fear, though, that if Trump sees he is unpopular he will bypass mid-terms.
He won’t be unpopular dude, I’ll bet middle of the road lefties will see how much better off the world is when there’s a competent man running the most powerful country in the world.
@@charlesxavier6785I'm asking this totally sincerely, what do you mean by "middle of the road lefty?" Can you give a specific example? If not of a person, then of a set of policy prescriptions?
6:11 actually, he didn’t say that the economy was great. He said it was better, but also he did acknowledge that the people didn’t feel like it was. I know it was a catastrophic debate however I went back and watched it and I will say that, even though he fumbled in his speech and while he was talking, he was able to answer all the questions directly. Whereas Trump did not, he had to be reminded of the question and also, did not answer questions directly either. I did vote for her, however out of all the people, the one who is the oldest and had so much problem delivering answers was in fact the only person able to answer anything.
It's a complete strawman though. Kamala did not even mention the trans issues during her campaign. It's just divisive lies propagated by right-wing media channels.
They are correct. In Europe the doctors there will not do anything for adolescents, I'm a psych nurse and I work with this, read the studies. They are seeing so many new cases, where kids never had this problem before, the European doctors associations are warning people that it's grooming. It's growing, not that these were happening before and were unknown. But that this is "emerging" meaning it could be the hormonal disruptions from plastics in our foods and is not "normative" meaning it's could be a developmental and a disease process, not something we should be addressing this way. We should find out why it's happening and stop it.
Yet 99% of his voters will never have to deal with that issue. Now the right never wants the left to win on any issue, but in 10-20 years from now this issue will still seem like a stupid thing that people ever cared about enough to vote for a criminal insurrectionist.
The point is that with ALL the American voters had to know about Trump - convicted felon, sexual predator, insurrectionist, and the list goes on - but still voted for him, there was almost certainly nothing the Democrats could have done differently to persuade the voters otherwise. Unfortunately, history will need to provide the lesson to voters in 2028, and we can do nothing other than see how this plays out.
This entire conversation is stupid. There is nothing, I could’ve done differently. I thought you were an amazing campaign. Everybody was talking about how wonderful her campaign was before the election. There was nothing neither she nor the Democrats could’ve done to win this election
There was the history of his first term and it still didn't work. This team has no idea about what it takes to get a message across to the low info voter. It requires more than just ads or passing news stories to the MSM. They had no new ideas or strategies even when communication clearly wasn't working.
What is the felony crime? When was there a conviction of sexual assault? Who was charged with insurrection? All the lies and hate didn't work. Hunter's a real and dangerous criminal and lying Bidumb gave him a blanket pardon. He could have simply commuted his sentence. A complete unconstitutional blanket pardon, just like the deal before, excusing him for all crimes in an 11 year rime? But at least now Hunter can testify against Bidumb and no longer exercise his 5th ammendment rights. He's immune from prosecution so he has to answer all of the questions!
If we are around to have a vote in 2028. I've been shocked before, but at 68 I'm more shattered as the days go by with each person he names. Truly he seems to be trying to destroy everything that hurt him and in doing so will get to at least 50% of our departments. DOJ, DOD, international like Nato. Petulant little girl in a pink dress with her lip stuck out ! Funny not!
I'm a genuinely conservative person and a lifelong Republican .... but I really, really, REALLY dislike Donald Trump, the MAGA movement, and what it's done to the Republican Party (and our country). In this last election cycle, I supported two Democratic Party challengers for seats in the US House and offered my services as a marketing and branding expert to our state's Democratic Party Chair (who is a friend) at no charge to help provide an "alternative point of view" on messaging and positioning in order to try and attract more centrist voters. And while the party chair and candidates were all very nice and (I think) interested, their comms people were not. No returned calls. No requests for an informal get-together over Zoom or a cup of coffee. No interest, really, in considering the issues or informational needs of anyone outside of the traditional base of Democratic voters. I watched the debates and subsequent panel discussions like the one shown here and just shake my head. There were so many missed opportunities to draw clear distinctions and positiong Harris and the Democrats as agents of positive change that were left on the table, it's a shame. Harris, for example, didn't need to point out the things she would have done differently from Joe Biden these past four years but instead explained what she learned during the past four years that would inform her decisions on situations resulting from those decisions. It's like her campaign didn't want her to spend time looking back on what could have been but they also didn't help her develop a clear vision of what could be in the future - and the result was a series of platitudes and pablum in response to obvious questions that offered neither substance or insight. Kamala Harris had four years of on-the-job training for the most important job in the world and she couldn't come up with an answer to the question: "What will you do differently?" Really? This lack of creativity and vision in the leadership of one of our two major political parties is alarming. And when the other party has seemingly abandoned any shred of decency while currying the favor of an egomaniac, it seems to me there are a lot of voters out there with nowhere left to turn. We are entering dark days, indeed. The next twenty-four months promise to be very interesting to watch (and harrowing to live through).
Obama was the last campaign who actually knew how to manage volunteers. And even then it was only in 2008. That should be the biggest takeaway. The candidates are sending texts and emails begging for money to give to rich media executives, but never asking for volunteers to help build a campaign. Let alone volunteers for anything other than door knocking and phone calls too…
I have a whole new respect for you, David. Dem's mess up too. As we all know, the first step towards improvement is admitting you have a problem. Thank you!
It means they were trying to avoid creating a wedge issue - any attempt to distance themselves from current policy would have been an invitation for the Republicans to attack and split the democrats there, trying to get some to attack Harris for not speaking up, or to attract criticism for not speaking up against it sooner
At this point the Democratic Party needs to get the hell out of its own way. The 2028 Democratic nomination is going to go to whomever creates the biggest movement. I think we need to take a step back and let people make some moves, get their ideas out there and see what’s working. You know, record labels don’t tell artists what music to post on TikTok and then go for the safe bets; artists post on TikTok and then the labels go, “that’s a really good song,” or “that’s a really marketable persona,” and they scoop them up. That is how the DNC needs to start operating
@ no need to be hostile, man. I’m not talking about the recording industry of 10 or 20 years ago; I’m talking about how social media has democratized fame in a way. If you accumulate a following on something like TikTok, it becomes impossible to ignore you. I was just using that as an analogy, where the Democratic Party is like this big legacy organization that’s out of touch, and I think they need to step aside and allow the talent to rise organically
@@pensivepenguin3000 not hostile.. but like the crooked hollywierd/record labels, the democrats are in bed with those same people from decades ago.. if you want new change you need a new party [ please remember the d party is the oldest establishment institution in America]
And it is also why music sucks now. The “American Idol”/“Eurovision” phase of finding out who can win a contest or social media ranking failed to produce the type of music from the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. I mean there are no protest songs from the past 20 years…. I mean Rage Against The Machine wrote plenty of songs in an era where Bill Clinton went too far right… Let alone the songs from the Vietnam War era compared to the Iraq/Afghanistan War one. But your political take is correct. I just don’t know if the DNC will allow a non-rich candidate to get name recognition in the mainstream media…
@@ryancappo lol. I didn’t mean to start a side debate about the music industry. That said, the whole American Idol talent show thing is very different than the modern social media ecosystem. I’m talking about individual artists and bands who can make exactly the kind of music they want, get it out to a large audience and amass a following without needing the traditional corporate gatekeepers. this has not produced exclusively bad music - it has produced lots of great, groundbreaking and experimental music as well
I think it was Schumer about 10 years ago who said "For every 1 blue collar worker we lose we gain 2 college educated suburban voters" or something similar. So yeah abandoning the working class was an intentional strategy.
Breaking: There's conservatives in battle ground states and water is wet.... People didn't show up and voters were okay with an awful human as leader. However this sounded like a bunch of sorry excuses. Wish they talked about how to improve going forward. No campaign is perfect.
The DC bubble has to burst. They need Democrats from Minnesota, Wisconsin, Georgia, all the places where they have to fight to win - not places like New York or California where they're already assured of victory.
Why were they stuck on the border? They cannot believe they were going to get voters who were focused on the border, when Donald spent the last 15 years being against the free border... she loved saying "I grew up in a middle class (uppper middle class) home"... she could have absolutely smashed it by focusing on the economy. But more annoying is the "she was part of the administration, and did not want to look back at anything she would do different in hindsight"... that is scary in itself. You mean that there is nothing you did that had a negative effect on the nation that you could look back on and say "we did wrong there"? No lessons learned, in a time where we had 30% inflation over 4 years, 2 major conflicts break out, major GOP gains in several states... nothing that they did they look back on and say "we could have done better"? But watching the interview I can see the problem. Even after the entire nation had a plus five republican change... And states like california and new york had a plus ten change... They don't see that they did anything wrong. With the benefit of hindsight they still don't see that they did anything wrong. What else can we say.
She didn’t lose because of her “moving to the center”, it’s because NOBODY BELIEVED SHE HAD MOVED TO THE CENTER For years “out out with deportation, up up with education” “we need more woke! We gotta be woke!” “An undocumented immigrant is not a crime” “The border is secure” “I will fight to make sure every prisoner in jail has access to HEALTHCARE (we know what I’m referring too) “we need to get rid of filibuster” etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. There were HOURS OF VIDEO of her saying outrageous far left things. (Not the economic left , the social cultural left) which Middle America doesn’t like She lost because of WHO SHE WAS
I'm having a hard time understanding what they did wrong. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just having a hard time understanding what they did wrong.
Simple. Using the strategies of 2008 in a full different world which the radicalization and the anti establishment approach matter. Also not having a back up plan while being paid by super donors is like a ponzi scheme
Hollywood. Corporations, the war machine, Cheneys. The are the establishment elite. And you probably are too and that's why you think they were amazing.
One of the things Trump succeeded at was bringing out the low propensity voters that usually stay home. If the Harris campaign had been compelling enough to get folks off the couch that would have made the difference. She had a hard road to do that because Biden should have never run in the first place for a second term. Ultimately the Democrats needed that edge to build up a candidate.
Excuse me, but Trump moved people they were apathetic and sold them on being anti and hating someone or blaming others for your problem. What Biden or Harris said or did wasn’t listened to because people wanted to vote on their anger and blame, period. Hate is easier and powerful when you have a community. Democrats were NEVER getting those types of voters and those voters were plenty and that is shameful of our society, not a presidential candidate. Not even Trump. People felt support and permission in the airwaves of being apathetic and again, that was the vibe in our society and airwaves that are bigger than one person’s words.
Why are you surprised that they focused on her youth and Washington outsider credentials? If you asked anybody what the biggest problem with Biden was, they would say his age and the fact that he's a career politician.
Because it was bad strategy to say that her youth and outside Washington credentials was the *only* distinction between her and Biden. you only think age was Biden's primary issue because the DNC told you it was; in reality his biggest issue was the economy.
@@whipporwill trump was a constant. Why nominate empty suit politicians to challenge him? Biden is indeed a liar. A younger candidate wasn’t enough. As we can see. A good candidate was needed who wasn’t attached to the wreckage that is this administration’s public perception. But they need to anoint people for some reason in this party. Real helpful. It never had to be Kamala. But there’s not sufficient DNC leadership to have put something together.
David, I’m so glad you’re talking about this. I watched that whole podcast. My Dad, before he got sick last year, was local Democratic chair. I haven’t even watched your video yet, it’s on pause, because I want to think what to say. It was bad. They are completely unaware of the situation they’re in - ergo that we’re all in. They don’t - rather they won’t - budge from checking the same to do boxes they’ve always checked. They think it was 2012. They don’t acknowledge the issues - particularly around economics. They don’t understand the media in this day and age. For God’s sake. Who was behind the disastrous decision to put Obama out there? At all? Let alone … in Pennsylvania - of ALL places?? He was condescending. He kept effectively telling rallies goers to shut up. “Don’t Boo!!!” The crowd got quiet… “Vote”. Awkward… And to be clear, I knocked on doors, handed out flyers, made phone calls and texts, called volunteers to work polls - for Obama. This was shockingly bad. The only people who like Obama are people like them. And Pod Save America. I was furious they did that. It’s like people’s like these - and I’m sorry - but it felt like they were pleasuring themselves. Talking about this and that about Obama, and what Obama said about the speeches. It’s 2024. Obama would have lost to Trump. Tim Walz got it. If Tim had more confidence, he could have won. You know who got it? Michelle. The talk with those students about specifics how the system was rigged … she could sway a MAGA. But even she wasn’t giving them enough concrete convictions about what will change in the rigged system. And yes it’s true Trump didn’t either. You know what he does? He says the same lies enough- for YEARS - some people believe. It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t make sense. What is the ONLY defense you’ve got in 2-3 months? Specific policies that matter, and Kamala did not have that. $6k for a kid? $25k for a house? 3 million new homes “for buying or …. For rent”. Oh good. Big investors will have more inventory …. Because the people who voted for Trump can’t put $400 bucks together, dammit! $40-50k for a new small business but not an existing one trying to compete against the oligarchs? Seriously? That’s spit in the ocean when the currents aren’t going your way. That guy from - where was it - Connecticut or New Hampshire or Vermont. Know what th4 problem is? The Democrats are bought off. And what they don’t like is that voters know it. It took me longer than most, but I see it. Frankly, I see now the progressives were right all along. It’s Bernie. (It is NOT AOC). Or someone like Bernie. I don’t even think it’s Pete Buttigieg, who I adore. He’s a Republican - in the traditional sense. It’s definitely not that guy from PA - he’s clearly an old style republican. It’s not even Gavin newsome. Look outside of politicians. Volodomir Zelenskyy was a comedian and he is among the best leaders on this planet. He relies on a team of experts, If these arrogant jerks they could hide Joe Bidens profound dementia and didn’t learn that the presidents job is not about leading the country - it’s about leading the people and managing the media. Let others run things behind the scenes. Run on - - getting money out of politics entirely - fixing the Supreme Court. Just come right out and say it boldly - giving healthcare to everyone, since companies dont do that reliably anymore. That’s a basic safety thing for everyone. - women in the 20s can freeze their eggs if they want - paid for. - getting housing inventory out of corporations - period - and getting back on the market at affordable rates people can BUY. - Take the assets like that asinine rocket fhat Bezos built off the wage theft of warehouse and delivery workers. Take the cruise ship sized yachts. Track the US money down in the cypress banks or where ever they are and invest it in schools. Because our schools suck of people are getting through high school with a 6 grade intelligence. Pay teachers better, so the better educated people can become teachers. Fire the crappy ones, - all judges have to prove they have no conflicts of interest. If they have been caught arguing in favor on any cases they have a conflict of interest, they go to jail themselves. And the case is reheard. - no lobbyists - universal child care. - universal elder care. - no. No men in women’s sports. Sorry. Moving on. - no. No men in women’s bathrooms. Sorry. If they transitioned, they can use the women’s bathroom. Not beforehand. Moving on. - people like the Sakler family that pushed opioids get the death penalty for murder. And the ones who put asbestos in baby powder that killed my mom and millions of women. - there has been a MOUNTAIN of R&D discovery around cancer, Alzheimer’s, heart diesease. Using AI / ML, personalized, functional medicine and support for doctors for every human being. This should be done by now, it’s so obvious. - get pesticides, fungicides, herbicides out of our damn food - without paying 3 times as much for “ organic”. It’s insane. Mexico outlawed glyphosate - but we haven’t? Seriously? Who’s going to pay for the neurodegenerative diseases? The roundup manufacturers? Answer - yes. And the politicians. Time for some accountability. - figure out why colleges cost so much. We all know they don’t have to. Fix it. I could keep going. Above all - get corporate money out of politics. I’m not sure the Democrats can get there. But certainly these can’t. That’s why they’ll lose. Their time is over. Thank you for your wonderful service - truly. It’s time to move on.
With you on everything but the anti-trans views. I agree, the dems won't get us there on ~90% of this stuff though. A party that allows Bezos to breathe air tax-free will never chase down anyone else for tax evasion.
We need to claw back 50 trillion dollars from the 1%. We need to shore up the health, education, and welfare of the mid and lower class. We need to reign in the military adventurism. Stop killing people. Start helping people. Exchange artists and entertainers with countries that we have communications problems with.
It would be helpful to place any blame on the ACTUAL people responsible. The “undecided” voter who swoops in at the last minute with unearned influence and makes a catastrophic decision affecting others, then conveniently goes back to their uninformed lives. THEY hold the most power and therefore the most responsibility for any and all political failures.
I think the “undecided” voter is a made up media thing just so they have something to talk about without having to talk to the activists on either side.
Calling the people that don't identify as conservative or liberal "moderates" is misleading. There are a lot of people in that group who identify strongly with some liberal or conservative policies, just not all of the policies. You have to focus your message on what policies and issues people in these states care about, not just campaign to overly broad buckets like "moderate."
Kamala Harris ran a PERFECT campaign. There was not a thing wrong. Could she have answered certain questions differently, of course. But there is no way Harris did not run a great campaign! I would vote for her again!!!
"Kamala ran a perfect campaign" I'm sorry, running to the right on immigration, campaigning with LIZ FUCKING CHENEY, refusing to separate herself from one of the most unpopular administrations in US History, ESPECIALLY on the g-cide in Gaza, therefore alienating the base AND losing the popular vote is "running a perfect campaign"? This is exactly why we lost this election.
Tell Biden to go all-out before Trump gets back into office! atadvocacy.com/biden-allout-117?ref=dp
Dictator Joe for a day, two or three ? 👍
You guys are only proving you never had a principled objection to Republicans or Donald Trump at any point. You are just fueled by hate. Zero principles.
He’s already pardoned his criminal son, ignited ww3 and per amnesty international, overseen a genocide. What more can he do? Hopefully The Hague is paying attention
Go all out with what, genius? Biden has done enough damage.
@@davidcastaneda2274 What damage?
I’m pleasantly surprised that David is slamming these shameless, selfish and clueless parasites. Good job. This is a wider problem with the entire consultant class, corporate media, party establishment and the destructive effect of corporate donors on the democratic party.
Usually, he's so focused on trump that he rarely criticizes the dems, and when he does, he usually sides with the establishment politicians. I hope this loss shifts him more to the left.
I was also surprised. But we need more of this,. The Democratic party MUST STOP REWARDING FAILURE.
David pushed some of these talking points himself. Every Democrat, leaning news media, which is most of them, and most sites like this one, pushed our awesome economy right now, when no one in the right mind thought it was awesome. It might’ve been awesome to wall Streeters, but not to the regular guy on the street.
They are not political operatives, they are junior common room debaters.
They're political operatives for the enemy team.
They talk like they are the campaign staffers for someone running for county commission.
Reminder that the left thinks a preteen can choose to transition without parental consent but an 18yr old college student can't possibly understand the loan they just took.
They get paid…win or lose.
You just described every dem politician until they sucker us into voting for them. No
They got paid big big bucks for this. They Totally ignored what the organizers on the ground were telling them.
Tyler Hackner(tylerhackner9731) stole your comment, and since he's a channel member, his is prioritized over yours. He stole it within a minute of your posting.
And now he's edited it slightly.
What a HACKner .
@ what a HACKner.
This is so satisfying, hiring based on dei and lose 😂
This conversation gave me an aneurism. You’re absolutely right; if any of these overpaid hacks work on the next Democratic campaign we’re doomed.
Wow finally some honesty from democrats 👏👏👏
It’s nice to see this honesty, spot on
Y’all are doomed anyway. Until the dems step away from all this trans stuff and start using common sense it’s over for them.
@@Nolelife247 Why are you so worried about dudes in dresses? Did you believe those commercials Trump put out during the campaign? I am assuming you did believe them.
@@CletusVanDamme-n9m Cause the trans agenda is a losing strategy and an easy target to show how far left the party is going. Wouldn’t surprise me if the LBTGQ community drops the T and be known as LBGQ community in the future.
That interview kind of infuriated me. It was a lot of "well our data showed ---". 🤦♂️
It was pathetic, they just parted themselves on the back
The Democrats has FOUR YEARS to think ahead to 2024, and Joe or Kamala was the best thoughts they had? No offense...this is pretty shocking. Also...Joe Biden could have worked to "baby-proof" the White House against a toddler like Trump...but, nah!
While Republicans lust for abuse of power, Democrats act like they don't want to be there. Oh well. Smh.
Lol, data never shows... it requires analysis, interpretation, testing, and conclusions. And then there is CYA.
There's nothing wrong in and of itself with reliance on data. The problems are that the data may not be accurate and that it is subject to varying interpretations.
Kinda like Phizer data ...
😂😂😂
Still alive unjabbed
They should never be in politics ever again
Oh trust me they will be. The DNC will never learn
They say what they think will have them hired again. Blame the conservatives, blame the progressives, blame minorities but never admit fault including running a terrible campaign
The mere fact that these people worked to keep Biden in the race after the debate is as damning an indictment of their competence (and their morality) as can be.
Technically no, their position would be one of good soldiers
The grunt or even the squad leaders of the grunts don't get to make those calls
You know, David, these people who were in charge of Kamala's campaign have a lot of excuses but no solutions. Excuses are only for losers and solutions are for winners. At this point, no one wants to hear their lame excuses. They seem to embrace failures as an option. They lack a winning mindset. Without a winning mindset, they basically set themselves up for failure from the beginning.
Pushing for increased welfare and more Socialism is not a winning mindset
@@DP-qf6bb That's why Trump should have lost instead of using ex-cons to round up migrants like it's the 1840s. Giving illiterate scumbags government jobs is definitely workfare if not welfare.
@@DP-qf6bb If at least you knew what you were talking about... 🤦🏻♀️
Embracing failures is not really left's forte! Atleast it hasn't been since 2012.
@@DP-qf6bbdefine socialism
The entire National Democratic Party needs to be completely revamped. It's not so much about left versus center, its about old guard versus new blood.
it's both
I'm hoping Wikler can become chair. He wants to bring back the 50 state strategy, more focus on the economy and a permanent campaign like the republicans do. His interview with the folks over at the Bulwark is interesting.
It's not a total revamp but it is several steps in the right direction.
@@quietearthMT78 throw the party away and get a new nàme. Worked for the Whigs.
This looked a lot like “new blood” though. These aren’t 65+ year olds.
It's the influence of the wealthy and special interests in the democratic party that needs to stop. It's directly opposed with the needs of the base.
These ppl constantly fail upwards, so why expect any different here?
Exactly. Promote them all. They should run campaigns forever!!!!!
Under normal circumstances I would send this message to Finnish foreign minister Elina Valtonen and Huvudstadsbladet but because it has become clear to me that the world elite wants the next generation to learn how the real world works I will post it here. I am also learning on the job. I believe I mentioned this fact at R/Prague when I got into an argument with people over whether or not the EU should bring back national currencies. I am for it and I am for that Finland will eventually adopt the Swedish Krona to show that we are not some sort of fucking backwards country that is part of Russia.
Russia is also not some sort of shithole country like certain states of the US. We (I am not Russian by the way although my cousin Markus is a Swede of partial Finnish and Russian descent) have great culture like Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Dostoevsky, Pushkin, etc. also I’d look into the chaos that ensued in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union before I’d criticised Putin too harshly.
Also, I’d look up Kemi Badenoch and Enoch Powell especially the 1968 Rivers of Blood speech and take a good long hard look and ponder what I am insinuating. I was recently in Prague and visited my “old dear friend Reinhard” who had broken his leg in an automobile accident. We do want to give Kamala Harris a clean slate and not be bordered by past mistakes made by previous administrations but we will not bend over and let you fuck us without being paid properly.
As part of the Ukraine peace talk I could propose that the Eastern European state (including Russia, Greece, and Hungary) form a Warsaw Pact Defence Union together with China. And I don’t want to hear any bitching from the common people this is a starting point for negotiations there are loads of details that needs to be gone through properly. Also I will not go to Stockholm tomorrow or today or in the immediate future. This is a red line that you’ve crossed there will be repercussions. I am planning to be in Manchester from the 12th to the 16th and while there watch the Manchester Derby. This is a red line you do not want to cross.
I am Alexander Marius von Mannheim and this is not a joke. I am the private secretary of Alexander Julius Dahlmeier. Elina Valtonen can confirm. I’d also ask Paul Barbato from Geography Now about recent emails I have sent him.
I agree with David
Exactly, David! These people must go. They do not even take responsibility for their mistakes, they are still defending everything they did although it was obviously wrong.
THEY MUST GO.
The anger is real when you realize they're paid to lose
General Electric certainly got _their_ money's worth
@@00SmileTime00lol
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It’s not that they’re paid to lose, it’s just that winning is not their number one priority.
Under normal circumstances I would send this message to Finnish foreign minister Elina Valtonen and Huvudstadsbladet but because it has become clear to me that the world elite wants the next generation to learn how the real world works I will post it here. I am also learning on the job. I believe I mentioned this fact at R/Prague when I got into an argument with people over whether or not the EU should bring back national currencies. I am for it and I am for that Finland will eventually adopt the Swedish Krona to show that we are not some sort of fucking backwards country that is part of Russia.
Russia is also not some sort of shithole country like certain states of the US. We (I am not Russian by the way although my cousin Markus is a Swede of partial Finnish and Russian descent) have great culture like Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Dostoevsky, Pushkin, etc. also I’d look into the chaos that ensued in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union before I’d criticised Putin too harshly.
Also, I’d look up Kemi Badenoch and Enoch Powell especially the 1968 Rivers of Blood speech and take a good long hard look and ponder what I am insinuating. I was recently in Prague and visited my “old dear friend Reinhard” who had broken his leg in an automobile accident. We do want to give Kamala Harris a clean slate and not be bordered by past mistakes made by previous administrations but we will not bend over and let you fuck us without being paid properly.
As part of the Ukraine peace talk I could propose that the Eastern European state (including Russia, Greece, and Hungary) form a Warsaw Pact Defence Union together with China. And I don’t want to hear any bitching from the common people this is a starting point for negotiations there are loads of details that needs to be gone through properly. Also I will not go to Stockholm tomorrow or today or in the immediate future. This is a red line that you’ve crossed there will be repercussions. I am planning to be in Manchester from the 12th to the 16th and while there watch the Manchester Derby. This is a red line you do not want to cross.
I am Alexander Marius von Mannheim and this is not a joke. I am the private secretary of Alexander Julius Dahlmeier. Elina Valtonen can confirm. I’d also ask Paul Barbato from Geography Now about recent emails I have sent him.
These "consultants" are professional losers, they need to leave
anyone in the real world would be fired if they were as incompetent at their job as these people are at theirs. Listening to the campaign's post mortem on pod save America was absurdly infuriating
And does anyone else find the podcast name ironic ? America definitely needs saving now
The delusion, denial and stupidity is unreal. This shows they will learn nothing from this, just like 2016
"How can we define her?" What about: How does she define herself? Insanity.
She’s an empty suit politician. What do you expect? Runs the way the wind is blowing. Horrible candidate in my view.
@@singed8853 100%. Chameleon for sure. Kamala seems to have no care values. That's why her campaign was completely focused on the "numbers" as opposed to her vision. People also saw that in the 2020 primary, which is why she finished 16th...16th! On top of that, she's not particularly charismatic or confident, either.
The vice president is 'the backup plan.'
This 💯
Given Biden's age, there was a chance that he would die in office and Harris would become President. How this did not even enter anyone's mind is...there are no words for it.
Good grief. They were not just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, they were doing it after all the passengers were in the water.
They give themselves so many excuses it’s unbelievable. Their job was to win. They failed.
They got paid well though I’m certain.
@@singed8853 people should be paid in accordance with the level of job, but they need to be good enough to get that job if the first place and when the fail they need to be fired.
David, none of what these people are saying about the campaign matters to people who do the little bit of homework needed to pick Kamala over trump.
A trump voter just emailed another creator on why he voted the way he did - you know what he said? NO REASON! He said he didn't do any research, he didn't think trump would win. THESE PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM.
Yes!! The uneducated. Successive governments have failed to invest in education for decades now, to the point where the average working class American is incapable of critical or rational thought.
Wow!
Two things can be true at once, these people that ran the campaign should be ashamed of themselves
Really? The simple fact that Bidumb was a disaster and that Trump was a much better President than Obama didn't make a difference?
These people shitting on Biden and Harris are the problem! They clearly can’t listen to people on the ground and moved Kamala’s framing of herself to be too elitism but honestly, Trump was unbeatable regardless because the democrats were all shitting on each other the entire time trying to be right, while the republicans and apathetic took this election as a joke. This wasn’t Biden or Harris’s fault, it was the staffers and podcast people around her feeding into apathy. Now we are looking in retrospect asking people to not give up after they had some permission to give up
Lost the House,the Senate, the White House and all seven battleground states, great idea to keep all those people. And the most humiliating thing was that,Lara Trump was helping to run the Trump campaign 🤢🤮
And give them substantial raises. And maybe a holiday brick of gourmet chocolate ice cream from Nancy Pelosi's designer freezer. Job well done! But next time, make sure Trump gets a clear cut majority
Trump's overwhelming flawless victory is their fault.
And his own supporters were leaving his rally early and not hopeful he would win.
What a slam dunk and they managed to screw it up every way possible.
@@September2004lol what slam dunk? Kamala was never a good candidate.
@@September2004 it would’ve been a slam dunk if we had a different candidate. We have to face up to the fact that America is not going to elect a black woman at this time. It’s stupid and it’s unfortunate but it’s the truth. We need to move a little more towards the center in my opinion.
The people that think we need to move to the center are idiots. Kamala tried that campaigning with liz chaney and that backfired.
I suspect, though I haven't done the research to back it up, but Harris ran the furthest right of any democratic presidential candidate (relative to the time) since before the party switch.
At least post-DNC that is, pre-DNC was different.
I find it terrifying that the Cheneys are considered "the center" now. Absolutely terrifying.
Unfortunately, the transgender issue was huge in some of the swing states. I don’t know how you get past that.
@@billhorstkamp98 You make a positive case for them and don't be afraid to associate with them, but also give people actual improvement in their lives from infrastructure to the economy.
If you don't counter-message your opponents then they're the ones defining the narrative on a topic.
For this strategy working look at Beshear in Kentucky.
They need to move center on a few issues related to identity politics like trans issues. But absolutely they need to move left in most areas, especially populist economic topics
Wow! I just leaned some amazing things in this video. They knew they were driving straight at rock wall and all they had were excuses why they could not change direction. This is CRAZY!
Never, ever bring back people that couldn’t effectively steer.
I’m 2024, if we can have real elections, we will need innovation and follow: “winning isn’t the most important thing, it’s the only thing”
"I may not be Dale Earnhardt but I crashed into the fking wall because I can't turn left."
No need to have this pathetic carcass of a democrat party win anything. Needs reform. Genuinely I don’t recognize it anymore.
Absolute loser mentality on these folks. They all need to be fired from Democratic campaigning. When will folks in the party realize that voters want CHANGE
Its as simple as the economy didn’t “feel” good and so people didn’t want a perceived “more of the same” period.
nothing they said, at least in these clips you showed here, was really incorrect. most of your criticism in this video was pretty incoherent.
Remember Kamala didn't get to choose her campaign staffs.
She kept Bidens loser team
@@M85619at that time they were Bidens winning team , and now 1-1 so I don't know .
It wouldn't matter. She could never has won.
Remember kamala raised 1 billion and ended up 20m in the hole.
@@M85619 You do understand President Biden won with his (this) campaign team.
Being hired exclusively to plan a political campaign and sitting on your hands after that debate melts my brain. You would at least start planning contingencies then if not before.
"because she wasn't white."
THANK YOU FOR SAYING WHAT WE ALL KNOW.
Hillary was white so what ? Barrack was black and ?
As much as I want to give these people a fair shake due to having only 107 days to put together a winning campaign, the failed miserably at understanding the battlefield that was in front of them. You fight in the battlefield that is presented to you. And on that they failed.
Moving to the left moves in the direction of HELPING people. Moving to the right moves in the direction of hate, division, and tax cuts for the rich. You either want to help people or sow hatred and division. There is no middle.
Agree.
"There is no middle." Why? Because you say so?
Continue to spit into the wind. Good Luck.
@@emsleywyatt3400 And you are more than welcome to argue otherwise. That's how this works. So argue away.
@@austinlevreault6211
No, not helpful.
I was a campaign organizer for Obama in 2012 and Hillary in 2016. It's not about "which way" the campaign should go, it's about how all-consuming the campaign should be.
From 2012 to 2016 I noticed a huge drop-off in the intensity, in the outreach, in the persuasion aspect of the campaigns. Since 2016, it's become much more surgical, timid, unsure of itself.
Our next candidate, whoever ends up leading our party in 2028, the campaign itself needs to be everywhere, everything, all at once. A political campaign needs to be a cultural moment that touches everywhere. The other side needs to be tired of seeing our person's face, hearing our person's voice.
That's what's missing.
no, it's not. they ran an incompetent person with a terrible platform that no one wanted, especially Dems. Dems rejected her quickly in 2019. Dem elites tried to get her off 2024 when Biden announced he was running again but got boxed in with identity politics. She didn't have a primary in 2020 or 2024. On top of that - SHE KNEW HE HAD DEMENTIA and lied to the American people for 5 years to advance her own career in 2020 and protect it in 2024. Collusion+Coup= Treason.
I'm curious about your opinion of this: for the 2020 election, Ezra Klein wrote a piece for the New York times that basically said that Republicans no longer have to appeal to the center of the American electorate. But Democrats can't survive unless they appeal to the center.
Since you've had experience on a campaign, do you think the surgical approach makes it harder or maybe even impossible to appeal to the center of the American electorate?
I also can't help feeling that the extremism in our electoral system, which a lot of experts blame on the way we run primaries, has so alienated people who aren't animated by politics that they just stopped voting.
Don't get me wrong, my basic experience of Americans is that they simply don't have any faith in our political system. They feel like our government is pretty much run by billionaires. I don't know that I disagree with them. But I am curious what you think about Klein's opinion on Republicans being able to abandon the center, and Democrats being beholden to the center.
@lucindabreeding I do believe Republicans no longer have to appeal to the middle ground because they have successfully, through Trump, rebranded themselves as a cultural movement that cuts across demographics.
One big difference from 2012 to 2016. In 2012 when we would make persuasion calls to undecided/ lean-right voters, if they weren't voting for Obama they would say, "I'm a Republican so I'm voting for Romney" or they would say simply, "I'm voting Republican." In 2016, the few persuasion calls we did make, every single one of them said, "I'm voting for Trump", "I'm with Trump." There was a personal connection that - hearing the difference - really shook me and I think in some ways made election night 2016 not as shocking for me. And 2024, not shocked at all.
I think we're in a new Era of politics where politics is now part of the culture, its not a once every four year or two year thing for voters. I don't think anymore any demographic - racial, economic or even political leaning - can be written off or assumed to be on board.
@@lucindabreeding The reason for it is who each party is targeting.
In the last four US presidential elections, the GOP has progressively targeted the "non-voters", the nearly 40% of the population which *could vote*, but do not... the reason the "likely voters" based polls failed every year.
The last time the DNC did that was in 2012... when it helped President Obama win again. In 2016, those new voters overwhelmingly supported Sanders over Senator Clinton... it was center and center right voters which were old GOP that supported the continuation of the old ways. And so, as part of vilifying the "Bernie Bros", they abandoned their new voter focus.
Ex GOP and right leaning independent "likely voters" make up only 25% of the possible votes... but their strategy makes every vote there the focus. I am seeing 3-5% of Donald's turnout being new voters again this year... but his totals were within a million of his last year, meaning he lost 2-4% of his previous voter base. But he can do that. At the same time, Harris lost 10 million votes, nearly 10% of her total... and she did not make up that loss as easily by reaching out to the center.
@@lucindabreeding " They feel like our government is pretty much run by billionaires" - viewing from the outside it feels like the Libertarian narrative has won out, that any and all government is just an intrusive waste of money to a huge amount of the electorate. People blame the FDA for failures for example, but instead of wanting to fund it properly to give more power, it feels like more people push for punitive action against the agency
They didn’t have a contingency plan for if the octogenarian got sick or died???
9:39 Stephanie Cutter is saying "we were going to go to the press and throw Kamala under the bus if at any point she distanced herself from Biden." That is the only way there could possibly have been stories in the press about what Kamala did or said internally on specific issues.
Was this edited out? She doesn't say this at 9.39
Unbelievable. Feckless. Utterly incompetent.
It does not matter who is managing the campaign against a cult, you will not change their way of thinking or win.
Hahahah. That is TDS talking
@@TroyJScott Nope, We see him for who/what he is. Troll and traitor.
Cult lol
So dismissive. Want us to lose again? Not even close to everyone who voted for Trump is cultish in any way. Those are the people we need to be talking to and more importantly listening to.
Then why did they try? Why did they allow her to move to a centre-right position, gaining no supporters but losing so many progressives?
It didn’t make any difference who managed her campaign. She said on national TV that she wouldn’t do anything differently from what Biden has done, at the same time 70% of the country say we’re on the wrong track. Stop with the blame game, she simply is not qualified!!!
Exactly!!
So, what did Biden do that put us on the "wrong track" ?
Yeah but she wasn’t given a good talking to by her staff to correct her error so they’re also at fault!
Anyone who thinks Harris wasnt qualified but that trunp is has no point to make.
And what ? Trump is ?? If Biden was a bit more full of vigor; maybe he could've won. But when you compare Harris to Trump; Continuing with the same (as in Biden) is DEFINTINELY better than the Circus crossed with a S**tshow that's coming for Amrica now !
I don’t think they realized that if you are loyal to Biden the most important thing is to protect his legacy and that also means you have to throw him under the bus to win. Winning means you get to preserve his policies. Losing means it’s all going to be tarnished.
Wisdom in hindsight is easy, I mean when was the last time a nominee (who is the only guy who has beat Trump in a presential election) quit the race so late? All bets were off, a well planned 'plan B' couldn't have gone any better. Kamala was the most obvious candidate under the circumstances. I doubt any other candidate (including Biden) could have done better.
Thank you, I hate this all-or-nothing bullshit people keep peddling when we lose. It's clear that the moderate approach is the successful one.
“Ax” Pluoff and Carvile have to go - they acted like this was 2008, their heads are in the sand, these celebrity rallies, short rallies, not messaging properly not using social media properly. They’re freaking ridiculous.
2 of the 3 people you just listed have zero to do with the campaign.
The decision to not go on Joe Rogan was a bigger mistake than anything you listed. She should have done dozens of more interviews, including with David.
She needed way more exposure, as well as a focus on housing and tangible affordability crisis issues. The consultants stiffened her up way too much with a risk averse approach
Moreover, I am not sure why so many democratic folks have chosen to ignore the words of the only two democratic campaigns who’ve been reelected since FDR.
Bernie Sanders claims to have only the answers and when he loses national elections he says they’re rigged. Sound familiar?
These staffers ran a perfect campaign if it was 1992-2008. And I even thought that they did enough to have won the swing states that elected a Democratic senator.
Who is popular.. that's the only thing democrats should know about their picks. At this point almost all the "evil" people are republicans, you just need to win!
Evil is when Democrats tell the American people that the economy is great when people can’t afford food and homes.
Evil? Umm ..k
@@anarkitty0 Nothing is more evil than gaslighting Americans about the economy is great when people can’t buy homes and food. Be quiet.
@@anarkitty0 Nothing is more evil when Dems gaslighting Americans about the economy is great when the American people can’t buy homes and food.
Should have gone to Biden after he dropped out and agreed to areas where they could move him closer to the fire so Harris would have been able to have a reasonable conversation on interviews. So simple.
Should have gone to Biden in 2020 and told him he would not have the party's support for another term.
@@CrazyLife2112you didn't want to admit that he was the worst President since Obama. The gaslighting didn't work. Everyone saw through the lies.
@@josefeibl8230 I have no idea what you're trying to say. Are you okay?
Its not about going more left or staying centerist, it needs to do both!
Take the policies that Americans REALLY support.
Stop letting the Right define us.
Support good, supportable policy wherever you find it.
Bingo
They literally define everything we do as left might as well go full ham.
Lets face it most American voters could not tell you in detail a policy there choice is proposing, its all just a popularity contest running on feels. They were googling "what is a traffic" and "can I change my vote! the day after the election.
Wrong. Move left
Among the reasons VP Harris lost is because the campaign had no plan to reach low wage earners
Moreover the Harris campaign did not have strategies to reach out to men of all ages.
I sent emails to the campaign manager about this guy. He knows nothing about political campaigns on a large. Perhaps they thought because he ran the Warnock campaign
Another mistake was Harris abortion as the centerpiece of the campaign
Men in general do not connect with abortion
She could have balanced her message
David Plouffe said "Harris was going to win the swing states
I love all the Monday morning quarterbacking.
We don't usually let the dead body do the post-mortem
Watching David Packman obsess about the downfall of the democratic party has been my new favorite pastime following the election.
Ha I thought I was the only one.
David buddy I watch your show regularly but you can’t be doing any kinda post mortem at all. You were like one of the biggest “Biden isn’t senile it’s not a problem” guys. In fact the entire post debate period, check your videos. It was all about Trump being senile. Refused to engage with the crux of the issue which is Biden gave us Trump.
As somebody on the right, I listened to this episode of Podsave twice and was just stunned. They seemed very content.
Career mentality. They are fucking up the country with this mindset.
Under any circumstances. They got paid a lot of money and ignored what organizers on the ground were telling them.
Howdy, you stole this comment word for word from irinb3887.
And now you've edited it slightly. I just think it's shameful that's you'd use your channel membership to use other's opinions. That's gross.
Report this to the mods, folks.
The edit is HILARIOUS!😂😂😂
Shamelessness is a super powers I swear! 😭
Very odd.
Also Chuck Schumer has to go
My thought is it's less about an ideological shift that we need and more of a messaging shift. We need to make sure that every person running is able to deliver the messaging that resonates with their constituents, so we can get people to the polls. If we can get the independents, great, and if we can speak to the needs of the people that believe themselves republican because they always have been, great. But we need to get the message OUT for all the victories we can point out and show the people HOW we fight in their interests regardless of what side of the aisle they are on. Like the CHIPS act and IRA. Point out how their own republican representatives voted AGAINST them, screwing their own people if the votes weren't there on our side.
Blaming the voter for your campaign losing is like a creepy guy who blames women for his being single.
It's a gross look. It's a weak look. And it's not going to win you any dates in the future.
We need new leadership that owns their results and acknowledges the importance of addressing and delivering on the needs of the voting public.
Agree with most of this. I think more than anything, the DNC needs to figure out how to use social media effectively to reach low information voters like the Trump campaign did.
I’ve worked for both Republican and Democratic administrations. Republicans generally governed on the same issues and promises they made when they campaigned for election. Democrats, on the other hand, campaign on promises they believe appeal to “average folk” (their supposed constituents) then pursue policies that favor their major donors, economic and cultural elites, and industry once they are in office. That worked for a long time but I think “average folk” have struggled economically for so long that we all now see the distance between what Democrats promise to do if elected and what they actually do when elected.
If Democrats want to regain the support of the people, they need candidates who actually represent us, who will govern on our behalf, and will actually fight for us even against the interests of the elites and those who serve them. There cannot be any distance between the promises they make and the results they deliver.
At least she didn't lose a landslide.
If they were trying to lose, they couldn't have done a better job.
I disagree that a year out Kamala would've been the obvious replacement for Biden. That would've been plenty of time to organize a somewhat abridged primary, and with Nancy Pelosi's help Gavin Newsom could've easily stepped in.
Can't have an abridged primary that people could vote in as those are set by state laws. I suppose an open convention was a possibility, but that could have been a major disaster. (And before anybody asks what I mean by "major" I mean worse than what happened.)
@emsleywyatt3400 I've heard this talking point before but I refuse to believe that with as much time as a year out that the entire Democratic party would just throw their hands up and say there's nothing they could do. If state laws govern primaries then pass the necessary state laws.
Idk why people keep thinking Gavin Newsom is the answer. He'll get crushed in a general election.
He's a modern era California Democrat. That is all the label he needs for people to immediately think of high prices, high taxes and high crime.
We can dispute if those labels are true or not, but that's the label that would absolutely reaonate with most voters
Did they ever speak to a voter? Or did literally every meeting take place behind closed doors with no access to the outside world where they would all just argue with each other. It was clear as day the precise moment the consultants took over! The very moment!!
Assuming mid-terms will be allowed, there very well may be a backlash from MAGA when they are well into their FO phase. I fear, though, that if Trump sees he is unpopular he will bypass mid-terms.
He won’t be unpopular dude, I’ll bet middle of the road lefties will see how much better off the world is when there’s a competent man running the most powerful country in the world.
@@charlesxavier6785 I just nominated this comment for most delusional comment of the day.. Congrats!
@@charlesxavier6785I'm asking this totally sincerely, what do you mean by "middle of the road lefty?" Can you give a specific example? If not of a person, then of a set of policy prescriptions?
Get a life. Get out of your bubble. Soy boy.
@@charlesxavier6785 So why'd the dems gain 41 seats in the house and 7 governorships in 2018?
They have to go.
David: excellent analysis. Well-developed and well-articulated. I also happen to agree with your primary conclusion.
Wait, there is a substantial amount of audience members who want to move to the center?! 🤦🏾♂️🤯🤮
Im sure we will win if we keep nominating awful neoliberals
I agree. When the first thing they say is that there was never a backup plan or even thought of running someone else, I thought that was insanity
6:11 actually, he didn’t say that the economy was great. He said it was better, but also he did acknowledge that the people didn’t feel like it was. I know it was a catastrophic debate however I went back and watched it and I will say that, even though he fumbled in his speech and while he was talking, he was able to answer all the questions directly. Whereas Trump did not, he had to be reminded of the question and also, did not answer questions directly either. I did vote for her, however out of all the people, the one who is the oldest and had so much problem delivering answers was in fact the only person able to answer anything.
"Don’t mess with our kids (sexual identity)" was the theme I kept hearing over and over from the GOP electorate.
Let's hope we get some messaging from the GOP on how to explain to kids that cisgender men don't normally wear orange concealer or dark eye liner.
It's a complete strawman though. Kamala did not even mention the trans issues during her campaign. It's just divisive lies propagated by right-wing media channels.
They are correct. In Europe the doctors there will not do anything for adolescents, I'm a psych nurse and I work with this, read the studies. They are seeing so many new cases, where kids never had this problem before, the European doctors associations are warning people that it's grooming. It's growing, not that these were happening before and were unknown. But that this is "emerging" meaning it could be the hormonal disruptions from plastics in our foods and is not "normative" meaning it's could be a developmental and a disease process, not something we should be addressing this way. We should find out why it's happening and stop it.
Yet 99% of his voters will never have to deal with that issue. Now the right never wants the left to win on any issue, but in 10-20 years from now this issue will still seem like a stupid thing that people ever cared about enough to vote for a criminal insurrectionist.
David you are brilliant and well informed 💙 we thank you for keeping us informed
The point is that with ALL the American voters had to know about Trump - convicted felon, sexual predator, insurrectionist, and the list goes on - but still voted for him, there was almost certainly nothing the Democrats could have done differently to persuade the voters otherwise. Unfortunately, history will need to provide the lesson to voters in 2028, and we can do nothing other than see how this plays out.
This entire conversation is stupid. There is nothing, I could’ve done differently. I thought you were an amazing campaign. Everybody was talking about how wonderful her campaign was before the election. There was nothing neither she nor the Democrats could’ve done to win this election
There was the history of his first term and it still didn't work.
This team has no idea about what it takes to get a message across to the low info voter. It requires more than just ads or passing news stories to the MSM. They had no new ideas or strategies even when communication clearly wasn't working.
Agree 100%. There is something wrong with this country to pick someone like Trump who told us he planned to destroy the country.
What is the felony crime? When was there a conviction of sexual assault? Who was charged with insurrection? All the lies and hate didn't work. Hunter's a real and dangerous criminal and lying Bidumb gave him a blanket pardon. He could have simply commuted his sentence. A complete unconstitutional blanket pardon, just like the deal before, excusing him for all crimes in an 11 year rime? But at least now Hunter can testify against Bidumb and no longer exercise his 5th ammendment rights. He's immune from prosecution so he has to answer all of the questions!
If we are around to have a vote in 2028. I've been shocked before, but at 68 I'm more shattered as the days go by with each person he names. Truly he seems to be trying to destroy everything that hurt him and in doing so will get to at least 50% of our departments. DOJ, DOD, international like Nato. Petulant little girl in a pink dress with her lip stuck out ! Funny not!
I'm a genuinely conservative person and a lifelong Republican .... but I really, really, REALLY dislike Donald Trump, the MAGA movement, and what it's done to the Republican Party (and our country). In this last election cycle, I supported two Democratic Party challengers for seats in the US House and offered my services as a marketing and branding expert to our state's Democratic Party Chair (who is a friend) at no charge to help provide an "alternative point of view" on messaging and positioning in order to try and attract more centrist voters. And while the party chair and candidates were all very nice and (I think) interested, their comms people were not. No returned calls. No requests for an informal get-together over Zoom or a cup of coffee. No interest, really, in considering the issues or informational needs of anyone outside of the traditional base of Democratic voters.
I watched the debates and subsequent panel discussions like the one shown here and just shake my head. There were so many missed opportunities to draw clear distinctions and positiong Harris and the Democrats as agents of positive change that were left on the table, it's a shame. Harris, for example, didn't need to point out the things she would have done differently from Joe Biden these past four years but instead explained what she learned during the past four years that would inform her decisions on situations resulting from those decisions. It's like her campaign didn't want her to spend time looking back on what could have been but they also didn't help her develop a clear vision of what could be in the future - and the result was a series of platitudes and pablum in response to obvious questions that offered neither substance or insight. Kamala Harris had four years of on-the-job training for the most important job in the world and she couldn't come up with an answer to the question: "What will you do differently?"
Really?
This lack of creativity and vision in the leadership of one of our two major political parties is alarming. And when the other party has seemingly abandoned any shred of decency while currying the favor of an egomaniac, it seems to me there are a lot of voters out there with nowhere left to turn. We are entering dark days, indeed.
The next twenty-four months promise to be very interesting to watch (and harrowing to live through).
Obama was the last campaign who actually knew how to manage volunteers. And even then it was only in 2008.
That should be the biggest takeaway. The candidates are sending texts and emails begging for money to give to rich media executives, but never asking for volunteers to help build a campaign. Let alone volunteers for anything other than door knocking and phone calls too…
I have a whole new respect for you, David. Dem's mess up too. As we all know, the first step towards improvement is admitting you have a problem. Thank you!
To find out what a good burglar is doing you hire the best burglar to help you out. Dems need to learn/hire the best and listen instead of telling.
"telling people Kamala is different without pointing to a specific issue" WHAT. These are supposed to be 'professionals'???
It means they were trying to avoid creating a wedge issue - any attempt to distance themselves from current policy would have been an invitation for the Republicans to attack and split the democrats there, trying to get some to attack Harris for not speaking up, or to attract criticism for not speaking up against it sooner
I listened to half of this interview when it dropped. Very disappointing. Felt like nothing but their attempt to claim they made no errors.
At this point the Democratic Party needs to get the hell out of its own way. The 2028 Democratic nomination is going to go to whomever creates the biggest movement. I think we need to take a step back and let people make some moves, get their ideas out there and see what’s working. You know, record labels don’t tell artists what music to post on TikTok and then go for the safe bets; artists post on TikTok and then the labels go, “that’s a really good song,” or “that’s a really marketable persona,” and they scoop them up. That is how the DNC needs to start operating
Your blind.. artist for years have complained how the labels control them.. did you miss the whole diddy thing?
@ no need to be hostile, man. I’m not talking about the recording industry of 10 or 20 years ago; I’m talking about how social media has democratized fame in a way. If you accumulate a following on something like TikTok, it becomes impossible to ignore you. I was just using that as an analogy, where the Democratic Party is like this big legacy organization that’s out of touch, and I think they need to step aside and allow the talent to rise organically
@@pensivepenguin3000 not hostile.. but like the crooked hollywierd/record labels, the democrats are in bed with those same people from decades ago.. if you want new change you need a new party [ please remember the d party is the oldest establishment institution in America]
And it is also why music sucks now. The “American Idol”/“Eurovision” phase of finding out who can win a contest or social media ranking failed to produce the type of music from the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. I mean there are no protest songs from the past 20 years…. I mean Rage Against The Machine wrote plenty of songs in an era where Bill Clinton went too far right… Let alone the songs from the Vietnam War era compared to the Iraq/Afghanistan War one.
But your political take is correct. I just don’t know if the DNC will allow a non-rich candidate to get name recognition in the mainstream media…
@@ryancappo lol. I didn’t mean to start a side debate about the music industry. That said, the whole American Idol talent show thing is very different than the modern social media ecosystem. I’m talking about individual artists and bands who can make exactly the kind of music they want, get it out to a large audience and amass a following without needing the traditional corporate gatekeepers. this has not produced exclusively bad music - it has produced lots of great, groundbreaking and experimental music as well
So it seems like the democratic strategists threw up their hands and just stopped trying to win over the working class. Damn
I think it was Schumer about 10 years ago who said "For every 1 blue collar worker we lose we gain 2 college educated suburban voters" or something similar.
So yeah abandoning the working class was an intentional strategy.
Dems are built of slavery not a working class, so that makes sense..
Breaking: There's conservatives in battle ground states and water is wet....
People didn't show up and voters were okay with an awful human as leader. However this sounded like a bunch of sorry excuses. Wish they talked about how to improve going forward. No campaign is perfect.
The DC bubble has to burst. They need Democrats from Minnesota, Wisconsin, Georgia, all the places where they have to fight to win - not places like New York or California where they're already assured of victory.
Why were they stuck on the border? They cannot believe they were going to get voters who were focused on the border, when Donald spent the last 15 years being against the free border... she loved saying "I grew up in a middle class (uppper middle class) home"... she could have absolutely smashed it by focusing on the economy.
But more annoying is the "she was part of the administration, and did not want to look back at anything she would do different in hindsight"... that is scary in itself. You mean that there is nothing you did that had a negative effect on the nation that you could look back on and say "we did wrong there"? No lessons learned, in a time where we had 30% inflation over 4 years, 2 major conflicts break out, major GOP gains in several states... nothing that they did they look back on and say "we could have done better"?
But watching the interview I can see the problem. Even after the entire nation had a plus five republican change... And states like california and new york had a plus ten change... They don't see that they did anything wrong. With the benefit of hindsight they still don't see that they did anything wrong.
What else can we say.
She didn’t lose because of her “moving to the center”, it’s because NOBODY BELIEVED SHE HAD MOVED TO THE CENTER
For years “out out with deportation, up up with education” “we need more woke! We gotta be woke!” “An undocumented immigrant is not a crime” “The border is secure” “I will fight to make sure every prisoner in jail has access to HEALTHCARE (we know what I’m referring too) “we need to get rid of filibuster” etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
There were HOURS OF VIDEO of her saying outrageous far left things. (Not the economic left , the social cultural left) which Middle America doesn’t like
She lost because of WHO SHE WAS
David still doesn't get it. If she had run further left, she would've lost by an even larger margin.
The prhrase you seek is "campaign malpractice"
They were the best campaign people on the planet, based on the metrics used by Dems. Merit doesn’t even factor into the evaluation. Please keep it up.
I'm having a hard time understanding what they did wrong. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just having a hard time understanding what they did wrong.
Simple. Using the strategies of 2008 in a full different world which the radicalization and the anti establishment approach matter. Also not having a back up plan while being paid by super donors is like a ponzi scheme
Hollywood. Corporations, the war machine, Cheneys. The are the establishment elite. And you probably are too and that's why you think they were amazing.
Why is nobody talking about what a terrible candidate she was
The party needs to go left on economic issues, and right on niche cultural issues. And straight ahead against corruption and the donor class.
So true
All this soul searching! It MAGA from now on ,baby !
One of the things Trump succeeded at was bringing out the low propensity voters that usually stay home. If the Harris campaign had been compelling enough to get folks off the couch that would have made the difference. She had a hard road to do that because Biden should have never run in the first place for a second term. Ultimately the Democrats needed that edge to build up a candidate.
Excuse me, but Trump moved people they were apathetic and sold them on being anti and hating someone or blaming others for your problem. What Biden or Harris said or did wasn’t listened to because people wanted to vote on their anger and blame, period. Hate is easier and powerful when you have a community. Democrats were NEVER getting those types of voters and those voters were plenty and that is shameful of our society, not a presidential candidate. Not even Trump. People felt support and permission in the airwaves of being apathetic and again, that was the vibe in our society and airwaves that are bigger than one person’s words.
Truly, a Pac-Man eating your own‼️🤡
Why are you surprised that they focused on her youth and Washington outsider credentials? If you asked anybody what the biggest problem with Biden was, they would say his age and the fact that he's a career politician.
Not that he's a compulsive liar?
Because it was bad strategy to say that her youth and outside Washington credentials was the *only* distinction between her and Biden. you only think age was Biden's primary issue because the DNC told you it was; in reality his biggest issue was the economy.
@@josefeibl8230 Who? Trump? This is about Biden & Harris. You're lost.
@@whipporwill trump was a constant. Why nominate empty suit politicians to challenge him? Biden is indeed a liar.
A younger candidate wasn’t enough. As we can see. A good candidate was needed who wasn’t attached to the wreckage that is this administration’s public perception. But they need to anoint people for some reason in this party. Real helpful. It never had to be Kamala. But there’s not sufficient DNC leadership to have put something together.
"Career politician" is code for "doesn't share my interests and values". You address it by demonstrating that they do.
What? WHAT? I thought you were OOZING with confidence on the work they did on Election Night.
What about Harris? She’d never given any thought to running for POTUS again? She was just gonna do 8 years as vp and call it a career?🤔 Probably😶
Great video David, very fair minded.
David, I’m so glad you’re talking about this. I watched that whole podcast. My Dad, before he got sick last year, was local Democratic chair. I haven’t even watched your video yet, it’s on pause, because I want to think what to say.
It was bad. They are completely unaware of the situation they’re in - ergo that we’re all in. They don’t - rather they won’t - budge from checking the same to do boxes they’ve always checked. They think it was 2012.
They don’t acknowledge the issues - particularly around economics.
They don’t understand the media in this day and age.
For God’s sake. Who was behind the disastrous decision to put Obama out there? At all? Let alone … in Pennsylvania - of ALL places?? He was condescending. He kept effectively telling rallies goers to shut up. “Don’t Boo!!!” The crowd got quiet… “Vote”. Awkward… And to be clear, I knocked on doors, handed out flyers, made phone calls and texts, called volunteers to work polls - for Obama. This was shockingly bad. The only people who like Obama are people like them. And Pod Save America. I was furious they did that. It’s like people’s like these - and I’m sorry - but it felt like they were pleasuring themselves. Talking about this and that about Obama, and what Obama said about the speeches. It’s 2024.
Obama would have lost to Trump.
Tim Walz got it. If Tim had more confidence, he could have won.
You know who got it? Michelle. The talk with those students about specifics how the system was rigged … she could sway a MAGA. But even she wasn’t giving them enough concrete convictions about what will change in the rigged system. And yes it’s true Trump didn’t either. You know what he does? He says the same lies enough- for YEARS - some people believe. It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t make sense. What is the ONLY defense you’ve got in 2-3 months? Specific policies that matter, and Kamala did not have that. $6k for a kid? $25k for a house? 3 million new homes “for buying or …. For rent”. Oh good. Big investors will have more inventory …. Because the people who voted for Trump can’t put $400 bucks together, dammit! $40-50k for a new small business but not an existing one trying to compete against the oligarchs? Seriously? That’s spit in the ocean when the currents aren’t going your way.
That guy from - where was it - Connecticut or New Hampshire or Vermont. Know what th4 problem is? The Democrats are bought off. And what they don’t like is that voters know it. It took me longer than most, but I see it.
Frankly, I see now the progressives were right all along. It’s Bernie. (It is NOT AOC). Or someone like Bernie. I don’t even think it’s Pete Buttigieg, who I adore. He’s a Republican - in the traditional sense. It’s definitely not that guy from PA - he’s clearly an old style republican. It’s not even Gavin newsome.
Look outside of politicians. Volodomir Zelenskyy was a comedian and he is among the best leaders on this planet. He relies on a team of experts, If these arrogant jerks they could hide Joe Bidens profound dementia and didn’t learn that the presidents job is not about leading the country - it’s about leading the people and managing the media. Let others run things behind the scenes.
Run on -
- getting money out of politics entirely
- fixing the Supreme Court. Just come right out and say it boldly
- giving healthcare to everyone, since companies dont do that reliably anymore. That’s a basic safety thing for everyone.
- women in the 20s can freeze their eggs if they want - paid for.
- getting housing inventory out of corporations - period - and getting back on the market at affordable rates people can BUY.
- Take the assets like that asinine rocket fhat Bezos built off the wage theft of warehouse and delivery workers. Take the cruise ship sized yachts. Track the US money down in the cypress banks or where ever they are and invest it in schools. Because our schools suck of people are getting through high school with a 6 grade intelligence. Pay teachers better, so the better educated people can become teachers. Fire the crappy ones,
- all judges have to prove they have no conflicts of interest. If they have been caught arguing in favor on any cases they have a conflict of interest, they go to jail themselves. And the case is reheard.
- no lobbyists
- universal child care.
- universal elder care.
- no. No men in women’s sports. Sorry. Moving on.
- no. No men in women’s bathrooms. Sorry. If they transitioned, they can use the women’s bathroom. Not beforehand. Moving on.
- people like the Sakler family that pushed opioids get the death penalty for murder. And the ones who put asbestos in baby powder that killed my mom and millions of women.
- there has been a MOUNTAIN of R&D discovery around cancer, Alzheimer’s, heart diesease. Using AI / ML, personalized, functional medicine and support for doctors for every human being. This should be done by now, it’s so obvious.
- get pesticides, fungicides, herbicides out of our damn food - without paying 3 times as much for “ organic”. It’s insane. Mexico outlawed glyphosate - but we haven’t? Seriously? Who’s going to pay for the neurodegenerative diseases? The roundup manufacturers? Answer - yes. And the politicians. Time for some accountability.
- figure out why colleges cost so much. We all know they don’t have to. Fix it.
I could keep going.
Above all - get corporate money out of politics.
I’m not sure the Democrats can get there. But certainly these can’t. That’s why they’ll lose. Their time is over. Thank you for your wonderful service - truly. It’s time to move on.
With you on everything but the anti-trans views. I agree, the dems won't get us there on ~90% of this stuff though. A party that allows Bezos to breathe air tax-free will never chase down anyone else for tax evasion.
You wanna put the fire out, after the house has burned to the ground???!!!!!😢😢😢😢😢
I hope you put yourself in a position to run for a government position in 2-4 years. You’re absolutely right about everything.
@@geraldmack6437 Sounds more like a rebuild to me
@seanmont8274 More of a remodel???!!!!
We need to claw back 50 trillion dollars from the 1%. We need to shore up the health, education, and welfare of the mid and lower class. We need to reign in the military adventurism. Stop killing people. Start helping people. Exchange artists and entertainers with countries that we have communications problems with.
It would be helpful to place any blame on the ACTUAL people responsible. The “undecided” voter who swoops in at the last minute with unearned influence and makes a catastrophic decision affecting others, then conveniently goes back to their uninformed lives. THEY hold the most power and therefore the most responsibility for any and all political failures.
Sure, but will that get you anywhere towards winning elections in the future?
@ Ive no idea, and neither does anyone else. Polls are BS and targeted schooling is perhaps the best antidote.
I think the “undecided” voter is a made up media thing just so they have something to talk about without having to talk to the activists on either side.
Calling the people that don't identify as conservative or liberal "moderates" is misleading. There are a lot of people in that group who identify strongly with some liberal or conservative policies, just not all of the policies. You have to focus your message on what policies and issues people in these states care about, not just campaign to overly broad buckets like "moderate."
Kamala Harris ran a PERFECT campaign. There was not a thing wrong. Could she have answered certain questions differently, of course. But there is no way Harris did not run a great campaign! I would vote for her again!!!
"Kamala ran a perfect campaign"
I'm sorry, running to the right on immigration, campaigning with LIZ FUCKING CHENEY, refusing to separate herself from one of the most unpopular administrations in US History, ESPECIALLY on the g-cide in Gaza, therefore alienating the base AND losing the popular vote is "running a perfect campaign"?
This is exactly why we lost this election.
It wasn't the campaign's fault. I maintain that Jesus would have been considered too black and too woke.
Thanks
Hahahahah. You’re living in a bubble my man.
Agree 👍, I would vote for Kamala again period..