I love playing Center. But the thing that drives me crazy is everyone expects you to guard your man all over the court even at the 3. And then guard theirs if they get to paint. They won’t even think about picking up yours if you have to slide down and then they all mad cause the other center hits a 3.
@@lilnull1682 yeah I prioritize the paint, I'm not watching my teammates give up 25 open dunks. If my matchup is hitting 3s I'm hoping someone realizes to help whenever their man drives to the paint. A lot of the time they never do
@@crappiejigs6720 or when you don’t have a power forward that can even help with boxouts or boards. Then you are expected to grab all the boards against two or 3 from the other team !!
The fact that you had to score half the points and are expected to do all that ok defense and the board is just crazy. Wish people understood their roles better but shout out to you for playing like a superstar Big.
Having either a Center or a PG that don't know what they are doing, cause more losses than anything. If those 2 can't get anything, it makes the game so much harder for everyone else
i love playing C too. i have a 7'1, a 6'8 point center, a 6'7 wes unseld style C, and across all of them I just have so much fun (when the team allows it cause yk how random rec can be haha). i was always a PG but after realizing that everyone in random rec wants to be a PG and i'll never be the PG cause they give the ball to any other position to bring the ball up BUT the PG, i made a C and havent looked back. being able to control so many aspects of the game is awesome
When u were talking about how there aren't that many big men who are great free throw shooters Yao Ming came to mind. A lot of people dont know he was an 85% free throw shooter in his career, and even had seasons where he shot over 90%. But he was an anomaly for sure
@@HunidLikeWiltI think if he came into the NBA 10 years later he would e been a great shooter too. He would shoot 3s I'm the Olympics and his shot form always looked beautiful
@TonicKeyboard I agree but maybe to his own detriment. When you're 7'5 and that skilled you should be taking shots as close to the basket as possible imo. I like how Jokic does it he can shoot really well but he only does it occasionally when his team needs it. With the majority of his shot profile coming at the basket
@@1of1jayy35 I have a Isaac jumpshot video you can check out, it's my most viewed video on my channel. I was testing out pj tucker jumpshot for this video I'll make a video on soon
This is the whole thing with my games. I play PG a lot and am a pass first PG. I get my teammates easy looks all game. I don’t blame them for missing really outside of taking bad looks but what always urkes me to no end is a center that can’t grab a defensive rebound or play up on screens. I am a good defender but a guy can only play so many screens. And when I force a miss, 50% of the time, I have a better chance to grab the board than my centre because he simply doesn’t box out and lets the o board be taken. All I ask of a centre usually is to know how to box out and grab a rebound.
If your center can space the floor, get boards and also finish inside when needed boy it changes the world. I get so many guys that add me even on the other team as a Center
Do you think 80 3pt good enough to be a stretch with takeover +7 “Make it Rain” instead of maxing it out for bronze limitless ? It’s not much of a big deal to me
This is the video I meant to comment on . I would love to see the full attributes on this . lol I vs u in the rec lasts night and was like I need this build lol
@@jstar0737 96 is a bit much unless you primarily play 1s. I think having atleast 60 perimeter and 60 steal on a center is worth it. You can make the build without touching steal if you wanna commit to never reaching out of the play
Man I just played a rec game where my teammates just couldn’t find their shot. We shot 25 more shots than the other team and still lost by 4. My team wasn’t even chucking shots, most of them were smart, guard could cook but no one could shoot. Couldn’t win the game but the rebounds and steals kept us in it
@@i_sharky missing 25 more shots is crazy but I know how ya feel, I've played games where my 1-4 will combine for 1-15 from 3. Very tough to win those types of games especially when the other team is hitting
About to make my last C for the year (I hope lol) between 7’1 ws and 7’3. Height 7’1. Which would u go. 7’3 I can get a few more attributes along with slightly longer reach of course. 7’1 of course better shooting
also you can lose when teammates don’t play any perimeter defense. I had the paint on lock and all my teammates had to do was play the perimeter. Guess what they did? Not play the perimeter.
@@jstar0737 it does baffle me how often players get open 3s on the other team when all your teammates have to do is guard them standing still. I lost way to many games where the other team gets free 3s all game
This off topic but iswear i hate the fact u have to do workouts to get burly body type i love that body type (pause) but i hate doing workouts then have to wait a whole week to be able to do them again 😂😂 so i never do workouts
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A competent center and a pg that can pass is all u need to win games
The PGs that I come across in Random Rec are just bad to say the least 😔😔😔
no a shooter or 2 shooters + a rebounding big/passer is what wins u game
Yea if the center can’t grab all d board you can win
Literally. As a SG, I can get 30-40 pts but it’ll mean nothing without a competent PG or C
I prefer having a PG that can pass, SG that can score, SF that can defend, and a good rebounding/defending center. Then I can play PF and just watch.
I love playing Center. But the thing that drives me crazy is everyone expects you to guard your man all over the court even at the 3. And then guard theirs if they get to paint. They won’t even think about picking up yours if you have to slide down and then they all mad cause the other center hits a 3.
@@lilnull1682 yeah I prioritize the paint, I'm not watching my teammates give up 25 open dunks. If my matchup is hitting 3s I'm hoping someone realizes to help whenever their man drives to the paint. A lot of the time they never do
W comment! The worst is when the powerfoward don't guard his man, but then he's in the paint using your box out to get free boards.
@@crappiejigs6720but you are a shitty c for not going crazy on the boards but no one boxed out all game except for the c
@@crappiejigs6720 or when you don’t have a power forward that can even help with boxouts or boards. Then you are expected to grab all the boards against two or 3 from the other team !!
@@TonicKeyboardgive us this build plz
The fact that you had to score half the points and are expected to do all that ok defense and the board is just crazy. Wish people understood their roles better but shout out to you for playing like a superstar Big.
Having either a Center or a PG that don't know what they are doing, cause more losses than anything. If those 2 can't get anything, it makes the game so much harder for everyone else
i love playing C too. i have a 7'1, a 6'8 point center, a 6'7 wes unseld style C, and across all of them I just have so much fun (when the team allows it cause yk how random rec can be haha). i was always a PG but after realizing that everyone in random rec wants to be a PG and i'll never be the PG cause they give the ball to any other position to bring the ball up BUT the PG, i made a C and havent looked back. being able to control so many aspects of the game is awesome
When u were talking about how there aren't that many big men who are great free throw shooters Yao Ming came to mind.
A lot of people dont know he was an 85% free throw shooter in his career, and even had seasons where he shot over 90%.
But he was an anomaly for sure
@@HunidLikeWiltI think if he came into the NBA 10 years later he would e been a great shooter too. He would shoot 3s I'm the Olympics and his shot form always looked beautiful
@TonicKeyboard I agree but maybe to his own detriment. When you're 7'5 and that skilled you should be taking shots as close to the basket as possible imo. I like how Jokic does it he can shoot really well but he only does it occasionally when his team needs it. With the majority of his shot profile coming at the basket
Any jumper recommendations? I have a 89 middy and an 80 3pt on my 7 footer but I can’t seem to find a good jumper/release combo
@@1of1jayy35 I have a Isaac jumpshot video you can check out, it's my most viewed video on my channel. I was testing out pj tucker jumpshot for this video I'll make a video on soon
Jabari smith jr base, Aldridge and Beluba releases 50/50 needs 85 rating.
Isaac or Muscala base with G Deing Release. Full speed and push. Release when ball cocks back on head. If you can get 90, MPJR is nice.
Hey Tonic! Great vid and gameplay! What build is that? Do you have a video on it?
@@sax_tv4805 yes search "Tonickeyboard best 7 footer NBA 2k25" it's the 2nd video down
This is the whole thing with my games. I play PG a lot and am a pass first PG. I get my teammates easy looks all game. I don’t blame them for missing really outside of taking bad looks but what always urkes me to no end is a center that can’t grab a defensive rebound or play up on screens. I am a good defender but a guy can only play so many screens. And when I force a miss, 50% of the time, I have a better chance to grab the board than my centre because he simply doesn’t box out and lets the o board be taken. All I ask of a centre usually is to know how to box out and grab a rebound.
If your center can space the floor, get boards and also finish inside when needed boy it changes the world. I get so many guys that add me even on the other team as a Center
Nice vid bro ! Are you still using MPJ jumper? Does it feel any different after the patch?
@@meltymelt5622 I was testing out a different one in this video but yes it's still my main and it's still just as good as it was before patch
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Do you think 80 3pt good enough to be a stretch with takeover +7 “Make it Rain” instead of maxing it out for bronze limitless ?
It’s not much of a big deal to me
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bro that’s a top secret build in the making especially for these slow ass centers. Delete 😂😂😂I’m dead ass
@@marqicewalker1766 LakerFan & Joey2K already spilled the secret 😅 unfortunately
@@djdrake111 damn
@@djdrake111 forsure it's definitely enough. Make it rain takeover is definitely worth going for
@@TonicKeyboardthank you bro 💯❤️
This is the video I meant to comment on . I would love to see the full attributes on this . lol I vs u in the rec lasts night and was like I need this build lol
Do you think 96 post control is worth it?
Also is perimeter worth it or steal?
@@jstar0737 96 is a bit much unless you primarily play 1s. I think having atleast 60 perimeter and 60 steal on a center is worth it. You can make the build without touching steal if you wanna commit to never reaching out of the play
Man I just played a rec game where my teammates just couldn’t find their shot. We shot 25 more shots than the other team and still lost by 4.
My team wasn’t even chucking shots, most of them were smart, guard could cook but no one could shoot. Couldn’t win the game but the rebounds and steals kept us in it
@@i_sharky missing 25 more shots is crazy but I know how ya feel, I've played games where my 1-4 will combine for 1-15 from 3. Very tough to win those types of games especially when the other team is hitting
Tonic you think 63 vertical too low for a center what’s a bare minimum vert for rebounds🤔
@@kaycorpz7891 yeah I think 70 is bare minimum I would go
@@TonicKeyboardight thanks
About to make my last C for the year (I hope lol) between 7’1 ws and 7’3. Height 7’1. Which would u go. 7’3 I can get a few more attributes along with slightly longer reach of course. 7’1 of course better shooting
Tonic a legend
mr random rec🔥
Do you know any 74 or lower jumpers?
Yooooo Im the dude that got fried in the first game 😂. ggs man!
@@TheBiscuit900 😂 ggs man it happens to the best of us
🐐 doing 🐐 stuff.. same JS 🧐
@@joemontana1111 was trying out pj tucker jumpshot this video, I'll make a video on it soon I'm still seeing what releases I like best
@ release look fine 😂.. good stuff 🐐 knew it looked different.
What jumper were you using here?
@@erriccross was testing out pj tucker jumpshot, I'll make a video on it soon
@ ok👍 start streaming too my guy I gotchu with a sub
@@TonicKeyboard only pj Tucker or a create a jumper?
Facts and that’s why I play center lol
a toxic point guard will lose you in the rec
Is that joker pass style?
U find plenty of good centers in the random rec the problem imo is god-awful guard play
dude in the first game basically made your build lol what was the jumpshot base?
@@stackedhi I was using PJ tucker base, I just tested out so I'm still trying some releases to see what is best and then I'll make a video on it
@ looks like you got it down tbh lol looks solid
What jumper is that tonic?
What center did you use for this video?
Nevermind, I found it lol
@@T1mB1gT1me mind sharing it? lol
@@vk3638 search "Tonickeyboard 7 footer NBA 2k25" it's my 2nd video down
can you drop the post scoring backend?
@@dapoadegbile2617 I did, search "Tonickeyboard best 6'7 post scoring lock NBA 2k25"
You make this game look so easy lol if I attempted half of this stuff I would have people telling me to delete the game Zz
🔥🔥🔥
also you can lose when teammates don’t play any perimeter defense. I had the paint on lock and all my teammates had to do was play the perimeter. Guess what they did? Not play the perimeter.
@@jstar0737 it does baffle me how often players get open 3s on the other team when all your teammates have to do is guard them standing still. I lost way to many games where the other team gets free 3s all game
@ you’re preaching to the choir. I even tried to make a perimeter defending center so I can help out but you have to sacrifice too much for it.
Hell yeah my first rec game got 30 reb destroyed the other team
Is the PJ tucker base? Lmao
@@Ioofah yesir was testing it out, I like it
@ Yee I’ve been using it too. Very good base, no one uses it.
Can we see the build dude?
@@juju3616 search "Tonickeyboard 7 footer NBA 2k25" 2nd video down
Build vid?
@@rich9784 search "Tonickeyboard 7 footer NBA 2k25" it's the 2nd video down
This off topic but iswear i hate the fact u have to do workouts to get burly body type i love that body type (pause) but i hate doing workouts then have to wait a whole week to be able to do them again 😂😂 so i never do workouts
Can you help me make a center I play random rec mostly. I have a center rn. I been playing good but I thing something is missing
@@DaChos3n_One-_- I have a couple videos on this build and a 6'9 center, what type of center are you looking for?
@@TonicKeyboardwe need the build video 😂I made the 6'9 and it's a beast
@@PapaBigFlame search "Tonickeyboard best 7 footer 2k25" 2 videos down that's the build I use if this video
Wheres the build and jumpshot?
@@Toe0351 search "Tonickeyboard 7 footer NBA 2k25" 2nd video down
I found the build. Now I just need the jumper
@Toe0351 I was testing out pj tucker base this video, I'll make a video on it soon wanna try a couple other releases to see what I think is best