Call me old-fashioned but I just love the functioning of old school type bikes with less laden electronics. My 2023 CB500X is so easy navigate and when I look at the options on your bike and my previous bike (BMWS1000R) I rejoice in its simple functions. Great to see another upload from you again and you'll have to get Wendy and her new bike min the next one. Cheers.
All your comments are pertinent. You got me nervous during your high speed sprints. Some of us can only dream of visiting Australia. Thanks for showing us around.
I wasn't thrilled when you left the NC. But I rode mine for three years and moved to the Africa twin for touring comfort with my wife and I ride off road as well, I can say the dct is amazing, I love everything about AT except mileage I am getting 38mpg, from my NC 58!! I will never own a true manual again, I also have there pioneer 1000-5 with the dct I was first to own one in my area never had one single issue hope that rings true for the bike it should be under way less stress then the side buy side.
Having owned an NC750x with DCT one thing I wished it had was a clutch to correct emergency mistakes, such as you describe when your wrist can twist and inadvertently put power on. It would be nice to be able to take the power off instantly so you don’t fly through a hedge or into oncoming traffic etc
Nice video! I’ve enjoyed my ATAS DCT for a few years now. One tip I use is to keep your throttle hand thumb and index finger pressed tight to the button housing and use your pinky&ring finger/palm to twist the throttle. Sounds harder than it is, but allows finer control and ability to absorb shocks without whisky throttle . 😂
Got a NC750 in part because of your content and I'm extremely satisfied with it, also very happy to see you're enjoying the AT. Good luck with the knees and keep it up with the great content!
I am so glad for you that you are enjoying and growing your skills, your bike, and your channel. I did my first big low cc bike ride into Borneo. So, I went the other way. Low power and light. And you know, other than the ruckus quality suspension, it was not all that bad riding an RSX. The bars are out of place, the seat and gearbox stink, but there is one upside. A grocery bucket between your knees.
I have the same bike. I call it a "smart bike" because it has a lot of engineering and electronics in it to make it quite aware of what you are doing and compensate to make it the safest ride possible for you in your environment. Such as the electronic gyroscope which tells not only which way the bike is leaning (forward and back, left and right) but by how much and reacts accordingly. When going down that steep hill it knows right away what you're doing and you can feel how it slows you down and holds you back. There are subtle changes to the suspension, abs, and TC as well. With a clutch, you can always disengage it and instantly be in neutral, which can be a good or a bad thing, but DCT is going to make sure you ride down that slippery hill as safely as possible. The only way around that is to actually put it in neutral while coasting down the hill, but not sure why anyone would want to do that.
In auto mode you may still use the paddles to change gears. This is very practical in many situations. Going down hill you can go to a lower gear to provide engine braking. The DCT will resume auto mode automatically. It's a great feature that becomes more practical with some practice😊🏍
Hi Adrian, great video (as always)! All the best for your knee! About unclutching the DCT - only yesterday I stumbled over a way to provoke it (at least with my 2013 NC 700 X). The DCT is designed to prevent the motor from stalling. So if it's in first gear and the bike is slow enough the DCT will open the clutch and keep it open (just as it does when you're rolling out at a traffic light). This works even if you're going downhill and gravity speeds you up (I lost my nerves at 35 km/h). BUT the moment you open the throttle even a little bit, the clutch will close! So if you don't want to bring your ride to a rude end, you will have to open the throttle really wide so that motor speed and gear speed coincide. ... Maybe you want to first try on a road and with sensible speed. But who am I talking to? Burning down a path (that I possibly wouldn't even walk) at 80 km/h with a 250 kg bike 😂 So, just take care!
With my 1. Gen-DCT it works fine, but of course you can't compare it to a normal clutch lever as you have to go real slow to trick it into opening the clutch. And once it's open, you have to let gravity do it's job so again no haste there. But if the hill is long and steep enough ... By the way: Cheating by simply halting and letting the bike roll downhill with closed throttel doesn't work (at least not with 1. Gen- DCT). In that case the clutch closes once you're at a good walking pace (so pretty early). I think the trick is to let the DCT believe that it is still rolling out at a traffic light. Then it seems to ignore the speedometer. Anyway, let me know if your AT can be tricked likewise.
Great test, and very interesting to know how it would feel, which you demo'd and explained very well mate. I KNEW getting that bike would entice the 25yo dirt-bike riding Adrian back out from the depths of time... just a little now and then 🤣
G’day Mate, we’ve got some first class forest tracks close to home, very lucky. I’ve been “lost ” there lots of times in my past, somewhere between Ourimbah and Heatons Lookout. Keri and I wish you a speedy recovery with the dicky knee. Thank Lord Lucas for electric starters! Best regards Graham 🏍️🇦🇺
Thanks mate. It’s a sad fact I used to know from memory every singly track between Wyong and Cessnock. But age and laziness made me give up the dirt bikes around 15 yrs ago now. So it’s nice to cruise through some of the main tracks again and remember ….
Best wishes for a full recovery on that knee. By the way you were riding, it’s not holding you back much! Looks like no regrets on moving from the NC to the African!
@@AfricaTwin-Stuffsorry I explain myself wrong, the windshield can be moved up and down with your hands, on the side you can push down and up a bit, so when go off road is worth to down the windshield a bit and then put it up after, is lie a 2 second thing but you need the two hands (I don’t know how Honda don’t found an easy way to do that on the route). Greetings from Cambridgeshire.
I've been in love with my 2019 NC70X DCT since I got it 5 years ago. Late last year, I took a 2023 ATAS for a 1,200 kilometer trip, and I was hooked. It gave me everything I wish the NC had--better off-road capabililty and more power. I'm just waiting for the 2024 with its 19" front wheel to land on our shores 2nd half of this year.
Park? You mean neutral? I try to remember to do this even though it does it automatically when you switch off. There is no “park” like on a car where the gearbox is locked.
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Call me old-fashioned but I just love the functioning of old school type bikes with less laden electronics. My 2023 CB500X is so easy navigate and when I look at the options on your bike and my previous bike (BMWS1000R) I rejoice in its simple functions. Great to see another upload from you again and you'll have to get Wendy and her new bike min the next one. Cheers.
Thanks mate. I hear you.
i wish, i could accompany you, with my ATAS DCT , greetings from germany
All your comments are pertinent. You got me nervous during your high speed sprints.
Some of us can only dream of visiting Australia. Thanks for showing us around.
I wasn't thrilled when you left the NC. But I rode mine for three years and moved to the Africa twin for touring comfort with my wife and I ride off road as well, I can say the dct is amazing, I love everything about AT except mileage I am getting 38mpg, from my NC 58!! I will never own a true manual again, I also have there pioneer 1000-5 with the dct I was first to own one in my area never had one single issue hope that rings true for the bike it should be under way less stress then the side buy side.
Having owned an NC750x with DCT one thing I wished it had was a clutch to correct emergency mistakes, such as you describe when your wrist can twist and inadvertently put power on. It would be nice to be able to take the power off instantly so you don’t fly through a hedge or into oncoming traffic etc
Well said.
Nice video! I’ve enjoyed my ATAS DCT for a few years now. One tip I use is to keep your throttle hand thumb and index finger pressed tight to the button housing and use your pinky&ring finger/palm to twist the throttle. Sounds harder than it is, but allows finer control and ability to absorb shocks without whisky throttle . 😂
Got a NC750 in part because of your content and I'm extremely satisfied with it, also very happy to see you're enjoying the AT. Good luck with the knees and keep it up with the great content!
Thanks mate.
I am so glad for you that you are enjoying and growing your skills, your bike, and your channel. I did my first big low cc bike ride into Borneo. So, I went the other way. Low power and light. And you know, other than the ruckus quality suspension, it was not all that bad riding an RSX. The bars are out of place, the seat and gearbox stink, but there is one upside. A grocery bucket between your knees.
Hey Adrian. I hate TH-cam notifications so have turned them off for all channels... except yours. Thanks and keep 'em coming, mate!
Ooohh. Now that’s a Compliment! Thanks. I’m blushing.
Yes. He’s just a dirty old man. But I like it.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff Haha. Aren't we all dirty old men? Anyway I just stated the simple truth :)
@dsolin thanks. It’s sad there are so many cynical people about.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuff yeah yeah. Don't worry about that. I am here and you are there and that's all that matters :)
I have the same bike. I call it a "smart bike" because it has a lot of engineering and electronics in it to make it quite aware of what you are doing and compensate to make it the safest ride possible for you in your environment. Such as the electronic gyroscope which tells not only which way the bike is leaning (forward and back, left and right) but by how much and reacts accordingly. When going down that steep hill it knows right away what you're doing and you can feel how it slows you down and holds you back. There are subtle changes to the suspension, abs, and TC as well. With a clutch, you can always disengage it and instantly be in neutral, which can be a good or a bad thing, but DCT is going to make sure you ride down that slippery hill as safely as possible. The only way around that is to actually put it in neutral while coasting down the hill, but not sure why anyone would want to do that.
Thanks for the feedback.
Gee you are REALLY having fun on the AT aren't you! Loved coming up the hill there. Bike has beautiful sound and never looked sketchy. Awesome.
Thanks mate. Yep. Building my confidence on it nicely.
In auto mode you may still use the paddles to change gears. This is very practical in many situations. Going down hill you can go to a lower gear to provide engine braking. The DCT will resume auto mode automatically. It's a great feature that becomes more practical with some practice😊🏍
Good point. The more I ride it the more I’m impressed with how smart the DCT is.
Hi Adrian,
great video (as always)!
All the best for your knee!
About unclutching the DCT - only yesterday I stumbled over a way to provoke it (at least with my 2013 NC 700 X). The DCT is designed to prevent the motor from stalling. So if it's in first gear and the bike is slow enough the DCT will open the clutch and keep it open (just as it does when you're rolling out at a traffic light). This works even if you're going downhill and gravity speeds you up (I lost my nerves at 35 km/h). BUT the moment you open the throttle even a little bit, the clutch will close! So if you don't want to bring your ride to a rude end, you will have to open the throttle really wide so that motor speed and gear speed coincide. ... Maybe you want to first try on a road and with sensible speed. But who am I talking to? Burning down a path (that I possibly wouldn't even walk) at 80 km/h with a 250 kg bike 😂 So, just take care!
Hmmm. I think you are onto something there. Thanks.
With my 1. Gen-DCT it works fine, but of course you can't compare it to a normal clutch lever as you have to go real slow to trick it into opening the clutch. And once it's open, you have to let gravity do it's job so again no haste there. But if the hill is long and steep enough ...
By the way: Cheating by simply halting and letting the bike roll downhill with closed throttel doesn't work (at least not with 1. Gen- DCT). In that case the clutch closes once you're at a good walking pace (so pretty early). I think the trick is to let the DCT believe that it is still rolling out at a traffic light. Then it seems to ignore the speedometer.
Anyway, let me know if your AT can be tricked likewise.
I’ve got a 2021 ATAS es and love it. On road and especially off-road it really is a blast and so capable.
Yep. I’ve definitely failed in love with mine too.
Great test, and very interesting to know how it would feel, which you demo'd and explained very well mate.
I KNEW getting that bike would entice the 25yo dirt-bike riding Adrian back out from the depths of time... just a little now and then 🤣
Yes. Correct. Riding back up the hill I could almost believe I was 50 again and riding my 2 stroke Husky!
G’day Mate, we’ve got some first class forest tracks close to home, very lucky. I’ve been “lost ” there lots of times in my past, somewhere between Ourimbah and Heatons Lookout.
Keri and I wish you a speedy recovery with the dicky knee. Thank Lord Lucas for electric starters!
Best regards
Graham 🏍️🇦🇺
Thanks mate.
It’s a sad fact I used to know from memory every singly track between Wyong and Cessnock. But age and laziness made me give up the dirt bikes around 15 yrs ago now.
So it’s nice to cruise through some of the main tracks again and remember ….
Best wishes for a full recovery on that knee. By the way you were riding, it’s not holding you back much! Looks like no regrets on moving from the NC to the African!
Thanks mate. Knee is coming along nicely. No regrets moving down to the AT … yet. I just looove the suspension. It’s a magic carpet.
Great video & great bike. Enjoy it !
Great idea having an auto bike, less rider fatigue 🎉.
Nice video, wondering why you don’t put the transparent visor shield before going off road. I have the same one :) thanks for sharing.
Thanks mate. I haven’t found it a problem so far. So avoids the faffing around removing and replacing.
@@AfricaTwin-Stuffsorry I explain myself wrong, the windshield can be moved up and down with your hands, on the side you can push down and up a bit, so when go off road is worth to down the windshield a bit and then put it up after, is lie a 2 second thing but you need the two hands (I don’t know how Honda don’t found an easy way to do that on the route). Greetings from Cambridgeshire.
@@arrakisarrakis-yo4mo - the screen is already at its lowest setting.
Don't forget to turn the wheelie control off when off road. Nasty tendency on steep uphill to.think its lifting the front and cuts power.
I've been in love with my 2019 NC70X DCT since I got it 5 years ago.
Late last year, I took a 2023 ATAS for a 1,200 kilometer trip, and I was hooked. It gave me everything I wish the NC had--better off-road capabililty and more power.
I'm just waiting for the 2024 with its 19" front wheel to land on our shores 2nd half of this year.
Yes. The new ATAS should be the perfect tourer of sealed and gravel roads.
Have you been on that track on your old nc?
Yes. It was much rougher when I did it on the NC !
What tyre do you have ?
Mitas E07
You are supposed to put it in park before turning it off.
Park? You mean neutral? I try to remember to do this even though it does it automatically when you switch off.
There is no “park” like on a car where the gearbox is locked.
Hi Adrian how can I private message your TH-cam channel? Do you have an email contact? Thanks, kieran
My email is attached to my channel. But TH-cam makes it hard to find. This is the email you can contact me on.
adrian_iredale@outlook.com