It's been very disappointing to see even people who consider themselves progressive or feminists engage in victim blaming rhetoric just because they dislike Blake. What kind of person she is is really irrelevant. No one deserves to be sexually harassed. I've also seen a lot of people say that they don't sympathize with her because of her privilege, but the thing is if this is the experience of someone as privileged and well-connected as Blake Lively, imagine what women without her privileges have to endure. I'm glad she's using her voice to speak out.
Yeah even right here in these comments already. It’s wild that these things keep happening and without fail they play out exactly the same every time: everyone gleefully joins in on tearing down a woman, and when evidence comes out to reframe the situation it’s a combination of “well I never cared anyway,” “she still sucks so whatever,” “she’s lying,” and my personal favorite, “well if there’s evidence then I’ll believe her (I haven’t actually watched or read anything in which the evidence is detailed).”
@@chellyfishing It always frustrates me when someone offers an opinion on something but admits they did zero research. You don't need to comment on things you know nothing about.
Omg I am reeling from this. I defended him. I am taking "this is why you can't defend men" to heart. Never doing it again. I sympathized with baldoni because he wasn't as famous as lively and her husband and didn't have the same connections (Taylor Swift). I also appreciated how he treated DV subject matter on the press tour. And Blake lively already came off as a shitty person well before any of this (hello plantation wedding, nepo baby, etc.) so it was easy to side against her. But damn the sexual harassment details are wiiiild. It honestly feels like he used this movie as an excuse to prey on her. I say all this as someone who was on Amber heards side the entire time, 😞 so disappointed in myself. I hope Blake wins this.
I also was on Amber Head's side from the beginning and I also fell for this anti-Blake Lively smear campaign, HARD! 🙃 Edit: the only channel, that encouraged me to caution was Ophie Dokie. She was onto him 4m ago!
Thanks for covering this, Jess. When the news broke I thought, let’s see how many people who breathlessly reported on Blake’s behavior say something about this, and you rose right to the occasion. Especially mentioning the “perfect victim.” Blake might be a jerk but she doesn’t deserve this. I can’t say that I didn’t join in the mess that was that press tour, but there were also a couple things that never quite fit (why did EVERYONE turn on Justin if he did nothing wrong etc) that make sense now. Also, as soon as I saw the person responsible also worked with Johnny Depp my eyebrows went ALL the way up to my hairline, because destroying a woman for a man’s image is clearly her MO.
I really feel like the recording of a birth needs to stop. I’ve always thought it was pretty disgusting. Like when are you going to want to rewatch that? For what purpose?!? It’s one of the most horrific things a human body can experience (from a physical perspective not a comment on having kids or whatever) and to want to save a copy of that and show it to people???? Whyyyy
somehow through all this, i forgot that Baldoni was the director; now i'm realizing *his production company* optioned the rights to adapt the book in the first place. extremely weird, nasty, wicked behavior. big ups to whoever handed over those texts to opposing council.
Just a legal clarification: this is not a lawsuit. This is a complaint, which can be a precursor to a lawsuit, but it’s also a step in making a workplace harassment allegation under California law.
I fell for the smear campaign at first, but then I watched a video by Ophie Dokie on the situation. One thing she said that stuck with me was that Baldoni hired someone who headed Johnny Depp’s PR team during his trial, ahead of the It Ends With Us press tour. I think that’s the most telling detail prior to this lawsuit, and I’ve been side eyeing him every since
reading how planned the press tours were and how calculated baldoni was in breaking from the marketing plan and deciding to use talking about DV to make himself look more serious and better than BL...that's cold. I'm sure all press tours are coordinated to an extent but damn. fuck that man
Just a note that the articles lay out that Blake was told not to focus on the DV in promo and focus on light stuff and florals, so I don’t think we should hold that against her in this instance.
i was on the competely wrong side of things during the summer and although the SA accusations weren't known yet, i still feel like a complete jack*ss/dumb*ss for falling for the P.R Hollywood smear campaign against her. also finding out the way justin manipulated the press tour for the movie to framed himself as better than his costars and Blake, he's seriously evil.
I only followed this situation on a surface level since I had absolutely no desire to see the film when it came out. At the time I did think it was weird that so many people involved with the production unfollowed Baldoni, and I did question whether he had done something to warrant it. I guess now we might be getting some answers.
So many things are now making sense about the production of the film. If I remember, there seemed to be some kind of delay in production, and then there was uproar about Blake's character dressing dowdy. I wonder if she was dressing that way intentionally to draw less attention to herself from Baldoni. Also, Ryan Reynolds has recently mentioned that he's going to be taking a break from acting after his next movie to spend more time with his family. Which, now that this has come out, I can absolutely see why. Blake is going to need a lot of support through this, especially since a lot of people (women included) don't believe her. And, I wonder if her behavior on the press tour was a ptsd type situation. Like, maybe she wanted to distance herself from the memory of the film, especially since it dealt with SA as she was dealing with SH herself. Maybe she was trying to find joy in something that ended up being very difficult for her. Or maybe she hoped to somehow sabotage it. Regardless, this is all sad and messy, and it really sucks that Blake went through all that.
Thank you so much for making this video. I don’t recall backing Baldoni because I don’t trust men, but I did revel a bit in the idea that Lively was a mean girl being revealed. Regardless, absolutely no one ever ever ever deserves, warrants, asks for, or whatever weird justification an abusive mind might make up - no one should ever experience abuse. I hope this lawsuit creates more protections for not just Lively and people in the industry, but protections and dismantling in rape culture/patriarchy. *Edit: it’s also horrifying, in continuing to listen to you read the details of the lawsuit, the dissonance of the men in power on and producing this film that does contain DV content is WILD and terrifyingly disgusting
Blake didn’t come off as likeable in interviews (I hated the choice she made to promote her hair line) but all of these accusations are terrible. I cannot imagine having to go through all of this.
It’s so nice to find a video on this where the comments aren’t all victim-blaming and not believing Blake, it’s been disgusting to see how other comments are. You’ve made a nice space here!
Me sitting in the corner so glad I decided to skip that mess. But really: this s a great lesson in optics and how easy it is to be manipulated or tricked by selective media blitzs.
blake lively is still an out of touch mean girl but he is a BIG creep. he sexually harrassed her and more people on set and she doesn't deserved to be SA'd. no one does. it's okay to dislike her, i do, but the heat should he harsher on him for being a disgusting piece of shit.
I feel like the need to bring up everything people think Coho has done wrong and everything they think Blake did wrong in the past is why people so easily sided with Justin. I only saw one youtube person defending her and she was right the whole time. Blake did everything she was supposed to do and everyone was so ready to rip her apart. I'm not even her fan. I couldn't name a movie she's been in outside of this one. All of the cast and crew were on her side and people still sided against her. Why? Some people in the comments now need to reflect on themselves. Even to say that he's bad because he used Johnny Depp's PR firm is planting a negative thought because you could also easily say they were George Floyd's family PR team because they did that too.
I am absolutely appalled by how some of y’all in this comment section think it’s OK to talk about a victim just because you don’t like her personality, good Lord. She can seem like a shitty person (which is IRRELEVANT when discussing how she was victimized) & still be a victim worthy of support & community. Absolutely disgusting behavior from some of you. Get a grip.
This is why it's so difficult for survivors to go all the way to seek justice. It's so easy to create smear campaigns against them that even their closest families and friends will blame them and take the side of the perpetrator without question
This is wild. Sounds like she followed all the agreements then EVEN let them all handle the issues in private. But he fucked around and found out. Also I’m not a Swiftie but aren’t they best buds? I don’t think you should mess with Swift or anyone associated with her 😂
Given the lawsuit mentions Taylor by name and Taylor’s nemesis Scooter Braun is a major stakeholder in the PR firm Justin Baldoni hired, it seems very intentional. Scooter seems intent on bringing down Taylor in any way possible, and perhaps he thought he could do that through Blake, so his and Justin’s interests align. Taylor even said it herself in one of her songs: “It’s obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together.”
This man fooled me! He had me believing that he was the victim in the whole debacle. With how his behavior on DV was, i thought he was a good man. Wtf never trust men, they are just 🤬🤬🤬
@@fidato_ Heard was found not guilty of libel in the UK, where the burden of proof is even higher than in the US. (She had to prove the abuse DID happen, whereas in the US Depp had to prove it didn’t.) The UK judge famously said that Depp is unequivocally a “wifebeater.” Your misogyny is disgusting and I hope you get help! 🥰
@@mglarson5936 just a clarification: in the UK Heard was not on trial. It was a trial between a newspaper and Depp. And the question was not if Heard lied, but if the newspaper could have known that she lied.
@mglarson5936 Your point is? We all witnessed her terrible acting in court and every piece of evidence she had was easily rebutted. Stop spreading misandry. It had become so easy to tarnish someone's reputation, like seriously. If you have issues take them to court instead of using your fans and influence to destroy someone's life. Not every women is innocent. And in Hollywood specially we see how easily women can get away with objectifying and harrasing men.
@@fidato_it's always "support women" until it's a woman you hate 🙄 I don't give a fuck about Blake Lively's other controversies, i don't even like the damn woman but I'll take her side
Them hiring the same team Depp used to smear Heard was a Bad Sign. The "reporter" who "leaked" bad BL interviews also did the same to Heard and seems to be a plant. I think I saw someone's video about this in the summer, and all the drama just felt so nothing burger (mostly I didn't care, admittedly).
“We never implemented anything” Uhhh there’s literally a text that says “this daily mail thing you planted is great” or something like that wtf do you mean you didn’t plant anything?
Idk why an intimacy coordinator wasn’t there from the beginning, that seems like it should be standard along with a lot of the new requirements outlined. Like it makes sense that this meeting happened after the SAG strikes, hopefully that and this continues to empower people to protect themselves because so much shit happens on set that is unacceptable
My thoughts are how overwhelming this would be for an actress who wasn't as well connected as BL who has the support of his husband, Ryan Reynolds. A beginning actress wouldn't have the resources for an attorney.
Exactly, I can't imagine how it was for newer, less connected and less protected actresses who had to deal with directors and producers throwing their power around like this. The stories that come out of Hollywood even for child actors are disgusting
@@cyanrose499 Agreed. I worked in a technical capacity in the entertainment industry and its rampant. Much of it I would label inappropriate behavior versus outright SA, but it varies & depends on one's reference point. I think JB has a few screws loose & has some communication issues. I've worked with men who will leer & make comments about how "hot" I am when I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt. They think they are complementing me, so I'm a bit immune to certain comments now. Things that would disturb me more was that JB telling BL that he could speak to her dead father, that's beyond normal. Ultimately, I think JB was insecure about RR & BL and was a bit intimidated & he acted out trying to show some level of control. Also, he let BL have a bit more control than any director should do, this shows his lack of experience.
@@mtngrl5859 😖😖 firstly, I'm sorry you were put in those uncomfortable positions at work 💐 I don't know of its purposeful or through ignorance that a lot of men don't understand that even if you are just trying to give a compliment, the words they use to phrase it can be inappropriate. Someone saying "you look good today" is different to saying "you're hot" and the context needs to be considered. I think a lot of guys think that if they are overtly sexual upfront, then it allows for opportunity for a romantic situation and when you react negatively, they can write it off as a joke Justin comes off as someone who gets swept away by his ego, which got inflated when he fell into his religious and moral beliefs (which he obviously views as superior to others), his star power, his industry buddies and now his ability to run his own production company and work on major projects And having someone like Blake and her husband Ryan around, two people who can stand their own, must feel like some kind of battle for dominance for him Add to that them filming a story like It Ends With Us, he had plenty of opportunities to treat her and others poorly and act like all his doing is channeling his character's actions on and off the set It's really the perfect recipe for SA and the only upside in this case is that there is so much recorded proof and witnesses so that everyone can get their side of the story out there
I never really followed the drama with this movie because I disagree with Colleen Hoover and her writing in general, but I was really offput by him saying he wanted to always have a “female gaze” and not center himself: them why would you choose to direct it when you could have had a female director in your own production company do it??? The hate for Blake seems wayyy out of proportion for the things that she did, being tone deaf and rude was the biggest accusation they had? I feel so bad for her, she was being sexually harassed and assaulted and had to deal with basically everyone taking his side.
Honestly this shift in public opinion is also shifty? So I think it's better to wait and see what happens. But it is truly horrific how easy it is to be hateful towards women and discredit them
If I’m in a meeting accusing me of behaving terribly and the “opponent” comes in repped by Ryan Reynolds I would be TERRIFIED. There’s something so scary about ‘the nice guy’ being tapped for a confrontation. You know he has receipts and hands ready to throw.
thank you for covering this! I am horrified! I assumed Baldoni must be a bastard when everyone cut ties with him, but this is atrocious! Cancel culture keeps mostly being about attacking female victims of abuse, and it makes me so upset.
Will something like this happen again? 100% I remember growing up and being into celeb gossip and watching those shows but then I got to point in my adulthood where I realize, why do I care so much and what is the benefit. Why do I feel this way about a certain wealthy entertainer (whether or negative or postive). I stepped back and honestly appreciate that I am not someone who locked onto tiktok etc. I consume some social media but it isn't my whole life. Cause in the end we do not know what occurs behind the scenes and what these people are like. My thing with this issue is the fact that there are some very major sexual harassment allegations. How did this not leak or raise alarms earlier during production. Shows how we have long ways to go to improve safety in the workplace, etc.
I am also checking myself after all of this. I never posted or shared anywhere about it but I totally bought it was all on Blake. But now I have to think why I was so willing to do that. Like, why did we only really talk about Blake's crappy actions and treatment of others when she was pitted against a man we wanted to like? If we took these transgressions seriously, they should always have led the discussion about her but instead we (me) waited for a moment where it seemed like her behaviour had finally caught up with her to say "she's getting what's coming to her". Is she? She did not deserve Justin's weirdo behaviour, no one could. She may be privileged, but it would take a huge toll on anyone. She also now won't be held to task appropriately for the things she has actually done because she has been "buried" so unfairly by him and his PR team and we all got played by it. I feel like we feel so powerless holding celebrities to account for their bad behaviour that we're ready to jump when it seems like someone else is doing it, and that makes us so easily manipulated by these monstrous PR dweebs.
So many issues. The men flying in to set on the day she is supposed to show skin-disgusting and predatory. I was reminded that even 20 years ago, it would have been hard for actresses to come forward and advocate for themselves. This is just a snippet of what happens behind the scenes of our favorite movies. A lot of those women, since the beginning of film, have experienced versions of this, if not worse. And the PR company? Nasty. I see how she poured on the spin but theres no backstepping on that. and actually ima look up those companies movies. because if the studio execs did that to her theyve tried it on others.
I'm really not all that surprised. It was really fishy that the guy making the film was the only one talking about the darker aspects of the film, like he was trying to make himself look altruistic. He's clearly a guy who knows that he's conventionally attractive, and has used that in the past to get his way. It's why I don't trust conventionally attractive men.
I got Mint Mobile commercials at the very start and very end of your video… book ended if you will 😅. Anywho… I wholeheartedly agree with you about this.
You know what i just thought of. She probably didn't care about promoting the movie because of her own experience while filming the movie. If i was her harmed while filming a movie about a*use I wouldn't want to promote such a hypercritical movie.
that publicist's business of "what kind of woman would do a bad thing to another woman like this" that fake sisterhood B.S. she can get outta here with that, nobody's buying it.
Blake doesn't seem to be the nicest person. Other than the plantation wedding, this seemed like dog piling. But, I've seen far worse behavior by men that didn't get a blink of an eye. Whether you like her or not, she didn't deseve any of the treatment mentioned.
I feel like this is one of those rare times where my instincts just. Didn't ping either way? I frequently have strong opinions on this, but idk something about this just seemed fake, guess we know what that was now
The contents of the lawsuit and the full extent of the allegations shocked me, because I never expected any of it, but I suspected something was up when the initial drama went down. And while I do think Blake should have some culpability for her choice to become involved in a Colleen Hoover project at all, given CoHo’s mixed reputation, it doesn’t mean she “deserved” what happened to her, and I can understand a lot of her actions a lot more clearly now. And it’s wild that people chewed her out for promoting the movie like she did, as if Colleen Hoover’s brand hasn’t always had “romcom” aesthetics disguising dark themes? Readers have been trying (and failing) to hold CoHo accountable for that for years. And speaking of which, why was it acceptable in people’s eyes for Justin Baldoni to acquire film rights for the book? Because even if the DV advocacy during promo wasn’t part of his attempt to make Blake look bad, this would hardly be the story I’d choose for my platform of advocacy, given all the controversy around it, which I’m sure he was aware of. The biggest red flag in hindsight was a quote from when the acquisition was first announced, which TH-camr Kayla Says brought up in her Blake Lively video back in August (she’s since done an update video about Baldoni and the lawsuit). He called the book “sexy” (clearly a favorite word of his) and “mysterious.” Even back then, before I knew what I know now, I was like, “Wait, what?”
Thank you for the dose of TEA. I've never read nor desired to read anything CoHo. So, I didn't care that there was a movie. I do think the promotion for a book/movie covering DV was too fluff/romcom. As somebody who has heard of the crookedness of actors/actresses/crew involved, think that the sexual harassment & misconduct is horrifying. Her personality faults not withstanding women must be heard when SA occurs. The action that Baldoni took is disturbing and intrusive. Red flags all around. Unfortunate that my sister who isn't much of a reader & knows not of the book community, casually brought the movie up to my mother. As a possible DV representative movie. In a slightly positive but meh in some places rec. 🤦♀️ Thankfully I don't think that it's something my mom would watch or that she will watch it.
I understand there is usually a fine for breaking a contract once an actor has agreed to play a role but geez Louise, why would she finish filming if all this was going on???? I can't imagine the torture she must have endured.
I’m sorry, but I’m giving a lot of people the side eye for using Blake and Ryan’s plantation wedding as a reason for why they don’t like Blake Lively. This has this been public information for years and basically nobody but Black people cared until this summer. None of this widespread backlash against Blake existed before this movie. It was just constant gushing over her family and her Met gala dresses. And they’re also far from the first or only famous couple to get married on a plantation. Reese Witherspoon got married on a plantation, and so did Tara Lipinski (beloved Olympic gold-winning figure skater for anyone not familiar). Martha Stewart and/or her company planned Blake and Ryan’s wedding and are the ones that actually provided the venue. Very few people actually care to know about this stuff until it’s time to drag someone
Yeah, you don’t step with this kind of complaint unless you can back it up with receipts and witnesses. This dude is COOKED. People who are denying it are doing so because they either don’t want to admit they got played, don’t like Blake, or think the perp is hot and therefore want to cape for him. Pathetic.
Blakely is nasty. There’s plenty of videos and interviews where’s she’s nasty and her defamation is based on her own actions and lack of awareness. However, the sexual allegations are insane and it’s disgusting. Also as a maternity nurse majority of woman give birth in hospital gowns. If the allegations are true this guy is perverse and is a creep. I stand with lively on this one.
I don't like her and don't understand why she would take her husband and not a lawyer to the meeting. But JFC. HE'S A NIGHTMARE!! Filming that sounds beyond traumatic. I hope she sues the pants off of him to match the child birth scene.
the more I hear about this film and the drama associated, the more I think this film was doomed to end... horribly the book was controversial. the author was controversial And had a say in casting Baldoni as the main lead. Blake is seen as glamourous or catty/insensitive depending on if people remembered her from gossip girl or marrying on a plantation. Baldoni wasn't known to public very well. There's a lot of personalities and lack of attention on set. No intimacy coordinator and strangers on set of nude shoots is a big violation and lends credibility to an improper work environment. On the other hand, knowing the topic of the movie and the public perception of DV all the buzz about Blake's haircare being insensitive flames any team looking to make Baldoni look better in the public just by him NOT launching products during the movie. Baldoni can be a creep boss and abuser and Blake can be insensitive to DV survivors and controlling on set. and an 80 page lawsuit can also be apart of a PR campaign to repair Blake's reputation. Both can be true because the facts on set don't immediately mean that the social media response are equally the fault of Baldoni
I’m indifferent to Ms. Lively’s career/roles, but when the dog piling on her started, I knew something was rotten in Denmark! Even the marketing photos didn’t reflect what Justin was saying in his interviews - as to the focus of the movie.
Jesus Christ......I heavily leaned on his side over her after learning about her past behaviors. (the plantation wedding def did not help) But GODDAMN. That all sound too specific to be fabricated. And there is text proofs....I have been fooled. (Yes, anything can still happen, but frankly, it's not looking good) Which piss me off because it's been a long time. And THE time I just followed the story here and there and didn't do a deep dive. When the only thing keeping me from being all team Baldoni was those people reminding us that guy like him, who are so openly feminist, have often been found out to be, ironically, awful people to everyone but especially women. And I kept that small itty tiny grain of wariness. I told myself was irrational but sadly necessary when you are a women. First Neil Gaiman and now this ?! Fool me once. Okay. But fool me twice ? Damn it. Listen all of you. Even if it's really tempting. Just take the L like me if you aren't sure if you were too much on his side rather then her. Don't try to pretend you always had a bad feeling, knew all along or that because BL seem like an awful person she did that to herself. That's how you're going to get fooled THRICE. We don't have a super six sense to detect bad people. Except if we are being paranoid all the time. (Awful for your mental health) We are doomed to fail to spot them all. And yes, unethical campaign like that are done because they work, marketing wouldn't be a thing if we weren't able to be swayed by tactics like this. Refusing to acknowledge that we failed to notice it. It only harm us and victims. And also like the other comments said. Saying BL brought it on herself. That's been a victim blamer and a hypocrite. You can't say you support victim of DV and SA. If you don't also support people you don't like or that are jerk. When you say you support victims of abuses. It's because the acts themselves are terrible and immoral. And everyone deserve supports and community and should have never went through that. Yes. EVERYONE. Even if a victim of DV and SA was a racist, sexist, ableist and on a list of most terrible people on earth. That person is a victim and deserve support and respect. No one ask you to like them or feel empathy. But you can have basic decency and not engage in victim blaming rhetoric or callous behaviors. (Hello commenters that say they don't care because Hollywood actors are usually jerks like it's the right place and moment for that) It's like genocide. If someone genocided an entire category of people you think are total a**sholes. Your reaction should be to condemn it and try to help the survivors. That's immoral and those people deserve to be protected against that. And not. "Well, they're bad people. They did that to themselves. We shouldn't care about them." Then. Sorry. But you never gave a f*ck.
I saw previous interviews of BL and didn't like her much , still don't like her but nobody deserves to be sexual harrassed. I'm so disappointed by Justin here.He gave TED talks talking about feminism, toxic masculinity and such . I thought he was a green flag but boy ! Was I wrong. He seems disgusting . Ew!! Thanks for this video Jess.
Why must actors always suck cant enjoy anything these days without stuff like this coming out its kinda a given with most things Hoover but this happens so often in Hollywood in general
Knew this project was cursed back when we saw the first images of the Lily attire Blake was wearing, but yeesh. It's all so much worse than we were hearing when the movie came out & I'm just never going to watch the movie because they & it are all mess. Clearly, they never should have finished making this movie. I feel like this complaint is to start the process for Blake to get the rights to It Starts With Us so she can make it without Baldoni. I, personally, do not think there should be a sequel given all this with the first movie. She's 💯 valid in filing this complaint, but I just hope she's not planning to actually do the other movie like removing him will fix all the issues from the 1st one.
well, I know nothing about the film industry but imagine in most work environments you cannot just quit without a reason at first sign of a boss or colleague being creepy, if you confront them they''ll say it was harmless joking/misunderstanding... you would not only lose money but also gain a reputation as someone hard to work with. But if you decide to stay, to tolerate for the time being-- either with the intention of 'this is a temporary project, let's just get over with' hoping it doesn't escalate, or with the intention of 'gathering evidence to make my case,'-- people would always be like 'if there really was something going on why didn't she come forward earlier...'
I am curious to see if Swoop will do a full documentery on this half of the situation or if it'll start off as a Swoop Too since it's more of an update of what she had learned in the situation. Her Documentry in this is pretty deep in exploring details as well talking about who these people are in more detail and what they have done. Right now I'm waiting on more details and a deeper dive before I make my decision but if any of this is true. It honestly would break my heart if he was using these themes as a way to get away with things. I was rooting for him in a way because I didn't like how Colleen Hoover romantices it in a weird way as well as Blake Lively complied with this in her avertising. (I tried reading Colleen Hoover's books, *did not like them at all.* As an Abuse Survior, It Ends with Us did not resonate with me at all.). It should have been given content warning and not minimized for "sales". But I shouldn't be suprised... Colleen Hoover did think it was smart to sell a coloring book of the book and be cutsy... that tells me a lot more on how she views the subject matter than the lip service she says that she "understands the struggles". And I'm honestly hoping that Blake Lively's version never comes out because it'll just be pandering to Colleen Hoover's whims. Which shouldn't suprise me either because... The way she handled her Plantation Wedding should probably give you an idea what she thinks of senstive topics. But I was honestly hoping that Justin Baldoni would rectify this within the film. I was hoping that he truely saw more in the book and how it could be shown in the perspective of abuse victums and surviors. But if the sexual harrassment, the use of press abuse part is true, and the Covid thing was true... I am very disappointed and betrayed because this will taint the work he was trying to do forever, and having our voices not heard even *more so* because there's a chance when people like me and others talk about it... we would be told we're over exaggerating. It's so much more harmful for our voices than it seems if this is the case.
i think you missed the main point, it doesn't matter if they are horrible spoiled rich people, this type of thing can happen to good honest hard-working poor people too who often don't have the privilege or resources to protest or fight back! we should all care to strive for a world where this type of abuse isn't tolerated.
I really don't care for any of these people and was only aware of this because of the commentary about the film and book. I think a lot of people in Hollywood are terrible...
As someone highly versed on ethics and business ethics in particular id say that the pr team that worked for Justin (im dyslexic and not going to even try and spell his last name) is in an ethical and moral grey area. They were hired to do something and they did it. True they could have refused but also that could have gotten them fired, harmed their income and thus their ability to live, or even had other rumifications that we don't know about. Honestly if they didn't do it then someone would have. And they are right they technically didn't do a smear campaign. They just presented a narrative and alowed people online to speculate and run with the idea that something shady was happening behind the scenes. 😅😅 Not exactly the most ethical thing to do but also yhey aren't monsters. I dont think that Blake lively deserves anything that happened, not the sexual harassment or Justin trying to make her look bad through deceptive neans, but the media campaign is, at the end of the day, on the person who payed for its creation and not entirely on the people that were doing their job.
yeah that's how I feel. it sounds like the workplace was toxic and I still feel like Blake is a participant to that toxicity even if/when it is proven that the guy is a creep and sexual abuser/harasser an 80 page lawsuit feels as much a PR campaign as whatever was happening this summer and the drama surrounding Blake was a least partially if not majorly organic content by humans and not bots like the JD case it's compared to. the interviewer that went viral spoke out that they were not connected to any campaign
1.) Blake smeared herself with her attitude and behavior. He didn't have to do anything to "smear her." Her behavior has been bad for years and former co-stars have talked about how bad she is. 2.) If she gets money from this lawsuit, every penny better go to a DV charity or she will be done with fans. I have only see people talking negatively about her for a couple of years now. 3.) If there is concrete proof of his wrongdoing (I haven't actually watched anything about this yet, I know nothing), then I believe she was a vicitim and that never should have happened.
And how do we know that this isn’t made up so she can redeem herself? With the connections she has, it wouldn’t surprise me. It sounds to me like she is suing him for acting. But honestly those Hollywood people are so dirty, I wouldn’t pick a side.
@@Alenakipredeeming herself for what? yea she has done shitty stuff in the past but these complaints are about stuff wayyy before the hate train. also yes the complaint is about the way he acted on set towards her and other cast members. looks like you fell for his hate campaign too.
“I’m not even attracted to you” is suuuuuuuuch a “nice guy” response to “hey stop harassing me”
It’s giving “you’re not that pretty anyway” after saying no to a date.
It's been very disappointing to see even people who consider themselves progressive or feminists engage in victim blaming rhetoric just because they dislike Blake. What kind of person she is is really irrelevant. No one deserves to be sexually harassed. I've also seen a lot of people say that they don't sympathize with her because of her privilege, but the thing is if this is the experience of someone as privileged and well-connected as Blake Lively, imagine what women without her privileges have to endure. I'm glad she's using her voice to speak out.
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I know nothing about Blake but I agree wholeheartedly
Well said!
Yeah even right here in these comments already. It’s wild that these things keep happening and without fail they play out exactly the same every time: everyone gleefully joins in on tearing down a woman, and when evidence comes out to reframe the situation it’s a combination of “well I never cared anyway,” “she still sucks so whatever,” “she’s lying,” and my personal favorite, “well if there’s evidence then I’ll believe her (I haven’t actually watched or read anything in which the evidence is detailed).”
@@chellyfishing It always frustrates me when someone offers an opinion on something but admits they did zero research. You don't need to comment on things you know nothing about.
someone can be both a victim and a kinda crappy person, they're not mutually exclusive (i agree with your takes, Jess)
Omg I am reeling from this. I defended him. I am taking "this is why you can't defend men" to heart. Never doing it again. I sympathized with baldoni because he wasn't as famous as lively and her husband and didn't have the same connections (Taylor Swift). I also appreciated how he treated DV subject matter on the press tour. And Blake lively already came off as a shitty person well before any of this (hello plantation wedding, nepo baby, etc.) so it was easy to side against her.
But damn the sexual harassment details are wiiiild. It honestly feels like he used this movie as an excuse to prey on her.
I say all this as someone who was on Amber heards side the entire time, 😞 so disappointed in myself. I hope Blake wins this.
He fooled me too I fear. 😔
He fooled me too … and now to see he basically used the Johnny Depp playbook 🤮
I also was on Amber Head's side from the beginning and I also fell for this anti-Blake Lively smear campaign, HARD!
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Edit: the only channel, that encouraged me to caution was Ophie Dokie. She was onto him 4m ago!
"Women don't wear hospital gowns while giving birth" - a man, to a woman who has GIVEN BIRTH multiple times. jfc.
Thanks for covering this, Jess. When the news broke I thought, let’s see how many people who breathlessly reported on Blake’s behavior say something about this, and you rose right to the occasion. Especially mentioning the “perfect victim.” Blake might be a jerk but she doesn’t deserve this.
I can’t say that I didn’t join in the mess that was that press tour, but there were also a couple things that never quite fit (why did EVERYONE turn on Justin if he did nothing wrong etc) that make sense now. Also, as soon as I saw the person responsible also worked with Johnny Depp my eyebrows went ALL the way up to my hairline, because destroying a woman for a man’s image is clearly her MO.
nah cuz i’m still thinking about how his pr team deadass said wow we don’t even have to do any work bc the internet already deeply hates women
oh we were played BAD. really the only thing to be learned from this situation is to never defend a man especially if we do not know him 😭
I never defended him, but she's still not a great person
@ what does that have to do with anything 😭
If my husband freely showed videos of me giving birth?!? AUTOMATIC NO. Absolutely not. No. Just no.
I really feel like the recording of a birth needs to stop. I’ve always thought it was pretty disgusting. Like when are you going to want to rewatch that? For what purpose?!? It’s one of the most horrific things a human body can experience (from a physical perspective not a comment on having kids or whatever) and to want to save a copy of that and show it to people???? Whyyyy
somehow through all this, i forgot that Baldoni was the director; now i'm realizing *his production company* optioned the rights to adapt the book in the first place. extremely weird, nasty, wicked behavior. big ups to whoever handed over those texts to opposing council.
Just a legal clarification: this is not a lawsuit. This is a complaint, which can be a precursor to a lawsuit, but it’s also a step in making a workplace harassment allegation under California law.
I fell for the smear campaign at first, but then I watched a video by Ophie Dokie on the situation. One thing she said that stuck with me was that Baldoni hired someone who headed Johnny Depp’s PR team during his trial, ahead of the It Ends With Us press tour. I think that’s the most telling detail prior to this lawsuit, and I’ve been side eyeing him every since
I agree with you assessment Jess. Whether or not Blake Lively is a nice person is irrelevant. She should not be treated the way her lawsuit alleges.
reading how planned the press tours were and how calculated baldoni was in breaking from the marketing plan and deciding to use talking about DV to make himself look more serious and better than BL...that's cold. I'm sure all press tours are coordinated to an extent but damn. fuck that man
Just a note that the articles lay out that Blake was told not to focus on the DV in promo and focus on light stuff and florals, so I don’t think we should hold that against her in this instance.
i was on the competely wrong side of things during the summer and although the SA accusations weren't known yet, i still feel like a complete jack*ss/dumb*ss for falling for the P.R Hollywood smear campaign against her. also finding out the way justin manipulated the press tour for the movie to framed himself as better than his costars and Blake, he's seriously evil.
I only followed this situation on a surface level since I had absolutely no desire to see the film when it came out. At the time I did think it was weird that so many people involved with the production unfollowed Baldoni, and I did question whether he had done something to warrant it. I guess now we might be getting some answers.
Blake was acting light and fluffy because everyone on set agreed to do that as a message of hope. baldoni went off script to make her look bad
So many things are now making sense about the production of the film. If I remember, there seemed to be some kind of delay in production, and then there was uproar about Blake's character dressing dowdy. I wonder if she was dressing that way intentionally to draw less attention to herself from Baldoni. Also, Ryan Reynolds has recently mentioned that he's going to be taking a break from acting after his next movie to spend more time with his family. Which, now that this has come out, I can absolutely see why. Blake is going to need a lot of support through this, especially since a lot of people (women included) don't believe her. And, I wonder if her behavior on the press tour was a ptsd type situation. Like, maybe she wanted to distance herself from the memory of the film, especially since it dealt with SA as she was dealing with SH herself. Maybe she was trying to find joy in something that ended up being very difficult for her. Or maybe she hoped to somehow sabotage it. Regardless, this is all sad and messy, and it really sucks that Blake went through all that.
Thank you so much for making this video. I don’t recall backing Baldoni because I don’t trust men, but I did revel a bit in the idea that Lively was a mean girl being revealed. Regardless, absolutely no one ever ever ever deserves, warrants, asks for, or whatever weird justification an abusive mind might make up - no one should ever experience abuse. I hope this lawsuit creates more protections for not just Lively and people in the industry, but protections and dismantling in rape culture/patriarchy.
*Edit: it’s also horrifying, in continuing to listen to you read the details of the lawsuit, the dissonance of the men in power on and producing this film that does contain DV content is WILD and terrifyingly disgusting
Blake didn’t come off as likeable in interviews (I hated the choice she made to promote her hair line) but all of these accusations are terrible. I cannot imagine having to go through all of this.
It’s so nice to find a video on this where the comments aren’t all victim-blaming and not believing Blake, it’s been disgusting to see how other comments are. You’ve made a nice space here!
Me sitting in the corner so glad I decided to skip that mess. But really: this s a great lesson in optics and how easy it is to be manipulated or tricked by selective media blitzs.
I love when theres a book communitea uploaded right during breakfast time. Its almost too perfect
blake lively is still an out of touch mean girl but he is a BIG creep. he sexually harrassed her and more people on set and she doesn't deserved to be SA'd. no one does. it's okay to dislike her, i do, but the heat should he harsher on him for being a disgusting piece of shit.
I agree, multiple things can be true at once. Blake Lively doesn't have to be the perfect victim to be believed or deserve justice.
I feel like the need to bring up everything people think Coho has done wrong and everything they think Blake did wrong in the past is why people so easily sided with Justin. I only saw one youtube person defending her and she was right the whole time. Blake did everything she was supposed to do and everyone was so ready to rip her apart. I'm not even her fan. I couldn't name a movie she's been in outside of this one. All of the cast and crew were on her side and people still sided against her. Why? Some people in the comments now need to reflect on themselves.
Even to say that he's bad because he used Johnny Depp's PR firm is planting a negative thought because you could also easily say they were George Floyd's family PR team because they did that too.
I am absolutely appalled by how some of y’all in this comment section think it’s OK to talk about a victim just because you don’t like her personality, good Lord. She can seem like a shitty person (which is IRRELEVANT when discussing how she was victimized) & still be a victim worthy of support & community. Absolutely disgusting behavior from some of you. Get a grip.
This is why it's so difficult for survivors to go all the way to seek justice. It's so easy to create smear campaigns against them that even their closest families and friends will blame them and take the side of the perpetrator without question
This is wild. Sounds like she followed all the agreements then EVEN let them all handle the issues in private. But he fucked around and found out. Also I’m not a Swiftie but aren’t they best buds? I don’t think you should mess with Swift or anyone associated with her 😂
Given the lawsuit mentions Taylor by name and Taylor’s nemesis Scooter Braun is a major stakeholder in the PR firm Justin Baldoni hired, it seems very intentional. Scooter seems intent on bringing down Taylor in any way possible, and perhaps he thought he could do that through Blake, so his and Justin’s interests align. Taylor even said it herself in one of her songs: “It’s obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together.”
This man fooled me! He had me believing that he was the victim in the whole debacle. With how his behavior on DV was, i thought he was a good man. Wtf never trust men, they are just 🤬🤬🤬
He is the victim. Blake is trying what amber turd failed at.
I hope she loses all her reputation and career.
@@fidato_ Heard was found not guilty of libel in the UK, where the burden of proof is even higher than in the US. (She had to prove the abuse DID happen, whereas in the US Depp had to prove it didn’t.) The UK judge famously said that Depp is unequivocally a “wifebeater.” Your misogyny is disgusting and I hope you get help! 🥰
@@mglarson5936 just a clarification: in the UK Heard was not on trial. It was a trial between a newspaper and Depp. And the question was not if Heard lied, but if the newspaper could have known that she lied.
@mglarson5936 Your point is? We all witnessed her terrible acting in court and every piece of evidence she had was easily rebutted.
Stop spreading misandry.
It had become so easy to tarnish someone's reputation, like seriously. If you have issues take them to court instead of using your fans and influence to destroy someone's life.
Not every women is innocent. And in Hollywood specially we see how easily women can get away with objectifying and harrasing men.
@@fidato_it's always "support women" until it's a woman you hate 🙄
I don't give a fuck about Blake Lively's other controversies, i don't even like the damn woman but I'll take her side
Them hiring the same team Depp used to smear Heard was a Bad Sign. The "reporter" who "leaked" bad BL interviews also did the same to Heard and seems to be a plant. I think I saw someone's video about this in the summer, and all the drama just felt so nothing burger (mostly I didn't care, admittedly).
Same thought. As soon as I saw that I found it impossible to even question Blake’s story because this is exactly what was done to Amber.
“We never implemented anything”
Uhhh there’s literally a text that says “this daily mail thing you planted is great” or something like that wtf do you mean you didn’t plant anything?
what diabolical gaslighting! does she think people can’t read?? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Idk why an intimacy coordinator wasn’t there from the beginning, that seems like it should be standard along with a lot of the new requirements outlined. Like it makes sense that this meeting happened after the SAG strikes, hopefully that and this continues to empower people to protect themselves because so much shit happens on set that is unacceptable
My thoughts are how overwhelming this would be for an actress who wasn't as well connected as BL who has the support of his husband, Ryan Reynolds. A beginning actress wouldn't have the resources for an attorney.
Exactly, I can't imagine how it was for newer, less connected and less protected actresses who had to deal with directors and producers throwing their power around like this.
The stories that come out of Hollywood even for child actors are disgusting
@@cyanrose499 Agreed. I worked in a technical capacity in the entertainment industry and its rampant. Much of it I would label inappropriate behavior versus outright SA, but it varies & depends on one's reference point. I think JB has a few screws loose & has some communication issues. I've worked with men who will leer & make comments about how "hot" I am when I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt. They think they are complementing me, so I'm a bit immune to certain comments now.
Things that would disturb me more was that JB telling BL that he could speak to her dead father, that's beyond normal. Ultimately, I think JB was insecure about RR & BL and was a bit intimidated & he acted out trying to show some level of control. Also, he let BL have a bit more control than any director should do, this shows his lack of experience.
@@mtngrl5859 😖😖 firstly, I'm sorry you were put in those uncomfortable positions at work 💐 I don't know of its purposeful or through ignorance that a lot of men don't understand that even if you are just trying to give a compliment, the words they use to phrase it can be inappropriate.
Someone saying "you look good today" is different to saying "you're hot" and the context needs to be considered. I think a lot of guys think that if they are overtly sexual upfront, then it allows for opportunity for a romantic situation and when you react negatively, they can write it off as a joke
Justin comes off as someone who gets swept away by his ego, which got inflated when he fell into his religious and moral beliefs (which he obviously views as superior to others), his star power, his industry buddies and now his ability to run his own production company and work on major projects
And having someone like Blake and her husband Ryan around, two people who can stand their own, must feel like some kind of battle for dominance for him
Add to that them filming a story like It Ends With Us, he had plenty of opportunities to treat her and others poorly and act like all his doing is channeling his character's actions on and off the set
It's really the perfect recipe for SA and the only upside in this case is that there is so much recorded proof and witnesses so that everyone can get their side of the story out there
WOW this just goes to show that you seriously cant believe most things reported in the media. This is terrible. :O
Time to touch grass lol
I never really followed the drama with this movie because I disagree with Colleen Hoover and her writing in general, but I was really offput by him saying he wanted to always have a “female gaze” and not center himself: them why would you choose to direct it when you could have had a female director in your own production company do it??? The hate for Blake seems wayyy out of proportion for the things that she did, being tone deaf and rude was the biggest accusation they had? I feel so bad for her, she was being sexually harassed and assaulted and had to deal with basically everyone taking his side.
I need a Yule log channel, but it’s just your dog snoring. 😊
Honestly this shift in public opinion is also shifty? So I think it's better to wait and see what happens. But it is truly horrific how easy it is to be hateful towards women and discredit them
If I’m in a meeting accusing me of behaving terribly and the “opponent” comes in repped by Ryan Reynolds I would be TERRIFIED. There’s something so scary about ‘the nice guy’ being tapped for a confrontation. You know he has receipts and hands ready to throw.
thank you for covering this! I am horrified! I assumed Baldoni must be a bastard when everyone cut ties with him, but this is atrocious! Cancel culture keeps mostly being about attacking female victims of abuse, and it makes me so upset.
It starts with Nigel
Will something like this happen again? 100% I remember growing up and being into celeb gossip and watching those shows but then I got to point in my adulthood where I realize, why do I care so much and what is the benefit. Why do I feel this way about a certain wealthy entertainer (whether or negative or postive). I stepped back and honestly appreciate that I am not someone who locked onto tiktok etc. I consume some social media but it isn't my whole life. Cause in the end we do not know what occurs behind the scenes and what these people are like. My thing with this issue is the fact that there are some very major sexual harassment allegations. How did this not leak or raise alarms earlier during production. Shows how we have long ways to go to improve safety in the workplace, etc.
The Sony company has never taken sexual harassment seriously where female actors of musicians are concerned. They have a history of this.
I am also checking myself after all of this. I never posted or shared anywhere about it but I totally bought it was all on Blake. But now I have to think why I was so willing to do that.
Like, why did we only really talk about Blake's crappy actions and treatment of others when she was pitted against a man we wanted to like? If we took these transgressions seriously, they should always have led the discussion about her but instead we (me) waited for a moment where it seemed like her behaviour had finally caught up with her to say "she's getting what's coming to her". Is she? She did not deserve Justin's weirdo behaviour, no one could. She may be privileged, but it would take a huge toll on anyone. She also now won't be held to task appropriately for the things she has actually done because she has been "buried" so unfairly by him and his PR team and we all got played by it.
I feel like we feel so powerless holding celebrities to account for their bad behaviour that we're ready to jump when it seems like someone else is doing it, and that makes us so easily manipulated by these monstrous PR dweebs.
So many issues. The men flying in to set on the day she is supposed to show skin-disgusting and predatory. I was reminded that even 20 years ago, it would have been hard for actresses to come forward and advocate for themselves. This is just a snippet of what happens behind the scenes of our favorite movies. A lot of those women, since the beginning of film, have experienced versions of this, if not worse. And the PR company? Nasty. I see how she poured on the spin but theres no backstepping on that. and actually ima look up those companies movies. because if the studio execs did that to her theyve tried it on others.
You just lovingly staring at Nigel
This is devious 😮
“Jess: What is time?” Time is soup.
Omg that's what I say!
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I'm really not all that surprised. It was really fishy that the guy making the film was the only one talking about the darker aspects of the film, like he was trying to make himself look altruistic. He's clearly a guy who knows that he's conventionally attractive, and has used that in the past to get his way. It's why I don't trust conventionally attractive men.
Yes! Some of them really give me the heeby jeebies. I don't trust them at all. My best friend thought it was funny when I told her that years ago.
I got Mint Mobile commercials at the very start and very end of your video… book ended if you will 😅. Anywho… I wholeheartedly agree with you about this.
You know what i just thought of. She probably didn't care about promoting the movie because of her own experience while filming the movie. If i was her harmed while filming a movie about a*use I wouldn't want to promote such a hypercritical movie.
Haven't watched yet just thank you for sharing the artist its so cute!
that publicist's business of "what kind of woman would do a bad thing to another woman like this" that fake sisterhood B.S. she can get outta here with that, nobody's buying it.
Blake doesn't seem to be the nicest person. Other than the plantation wedding, this seemed like dog piling. But, I've seen far worse behavior by men that didn't get a blink of an eye. Whether you like her or not, she didn't deseve any of the treatment mentioned.
I feel like this is one of those rare times where my instincts just. Didn't ping either way? I frequently have strong opinions on this, but idk something about this just seemed fake, guess we know what that was now
It doesn't surprise me, exspecially with everything that' going on in the industry.
The contents of the lawsuit and the full extent of the allegations shocked me, because I never expected any of it, but I suspected something was up when the initial drama went down. And while I do think Blake should have some culpability for her choice to become involved in a Colleen Hoover project at all, given CoHo’s mixed reputation, it doesn’t mean she “deserved” what happened to her, and I can understand a lot of her actions a lot more clearly now. And it’s wild that people chewed her out for promoting the movie like she did, as if Colleen Hoover’s brand hasn’t always had “romcom” aesthetics disguising dark themes? Readers have been trying (and failing) to hold CoHo accountable for that for years. And speaking of which, why was it acceptable in people’s eyes for Justin Baldoni to acquire film rights for the book? Because even if the DV advocacy during promo wasn’t part of his attempt to make Blake look bad, this would hardly be the story I’d choose for my platform of advocacy, given all the controversy around it, which I’m sure he was aware of. The biggest red flag in hindsight was a quote from when the acquisition was first announced, which TH-camr Kayla Says brought up in her Blake Lively video back in August (she’s since done an update video about Baldoni and the lawsuit). He called the book “sexy” (clearly a favorite word of his) and “mysterious.” Even back then, before I knew what I know now, I was like, “Wait, what?”
Thank you for the dose of TEA. I've never read nor desired to read anything CoHo. So, I didn't care that there was a movie. I do think the promotion for a book/movie covering DV was too fluff/romcom. As somebody who has heard of the crookedness of actors/actresses/crew involved, think that the sexual harassment & misconduct is horrifying.
Her personality faults not withstanding women must be heard when SA occurs.
The action that Baldoni took is disturbing and intrusive.
Red flags all around.
Unfortunate that my sister who isn't much of a reader & knows not of the book community, casually brought the movie up to my mother.
As a possible DV representative movie. In a slightly positive but meh in some places rec. 🤦♀️ Thankfully I don't think that it's something my mom would watch or that she will watch it.
I understand there is usually a fine for breaking a contract once an actor has agreed to play a role but geez Louise, why would she finish filming if all this was going on???? I can't imagine the torture she must have endured.
I’m sorry, but I’m giving a lot of people the side eye for using Blake and Ryan’s plantation wedding as a reason for why they don’t like Blake Lively. This has this been public information for years and basically nobody but Black people cared until this summer. None of this widespread backlash against Blake existed before this movie. It was just constant gushing over her family and her Met gala dresses.
And they’re also far from the first or only famous couple to get married on a plantation. Reese Witherspoon got married on a plantation, and so did Tara Lipinski (beloved Olympic gold-winning figure skater for anyone not familiar). Martha Stewart and/or her company planned Blake and Ryan’s wedding and are the ones that actually provided the venue. Very few people actually care to know about this stuff until it’s time to drag someone
Jesus Christ. How did they get the screenshots of those messages. I mean god bless but wow. And that man is stupidly insane. Who acts like that???
Tbf I also wouldn't care about a movie if I was being sexually harassed by a coworker on said movie's production
Yeah, you don’t step with this kind of complaint unless you can back it up with receipts and witnesses. This dude is COOKED. People who are denying it are doing so because they either don’t want to admit they got played, don’t like Blake, or think the perp is hot and therefore want to cape for him. Pathetic.
Blakely is nasty. There’s plenty of videos and interviews where’s she’s nasty and her defamation is based on her own actions and lack of awareness. However, the sexual allegations are insane and it’s disgusting. Also as a maternity nurse majority of woman give birth in hospital gowns. If the allegations are true this guy is perverse and is a creep. I stand with lively on this one.
I don't like her and don't understand why she would take her husband and not a lawyer to the meeting. But JFC. HE'S A NIGHTMARE!! Filming that sounds beyond traumatic. I hope she sues the pants off of him to match the child birth scene.
Great Explanation
the more I hear about this film and the drama associated, the more I think this film was doomed to end... horribly
the book was controversial. the author was controversial And had a say in casting Baldoni as the main lead. Blake is seen as glamourous or catty/insensitive depending on if people remembered her from gossip girl or marrying on a plantation. Baldoni wasn't known to public very well.
There's a lot of personalities and lack of attention on set. No intimacy coordinator and strangers on set of nude shoots is a big violation and lends credibility to an improper work environment.
On the other hand, knowing the topic of the movie and the public perception of DV all the buzz about Blake's haircare being insensitive flames any team looking to make Baldoni look better in the public just by him NOT launching products during the movie.
Baldoni can be a creep boss and abuser and Blake can be insensitive to DV survivors and controlling on set. and an 80 page lawsuit can also be apart of a PR campaign to repair Blake's reputation. Both can be true because the facts on set don't immediately mean that the social media response are equally the fault of Baldoni
I’m indifferent to Ms. Lively’s career/roles, but when the dog piling on her started, I knew something was rotten in Denmark! Even the marketing photos didn’t reflect what Justin was saying in his interviews - as to the focus of the movie.
Jesus Christ......I heavily leaned on his side over her after learning about her past behaviors. (the plantation wedding def did not help) But GODDAMN. That all sound too specific to be fabricated. And there is text proofs....I have been fooled. (Yes, anything can still happen, but frankly, it's not looking good) Which piss me off because it's been a long time. And THE time I just followed the story here and there and didn't do a deep dive. When the only thing keeping me from being all team Baldoni was those people reminding us that guy like him, who are so openly feminist, have often been found out to be, ironically, awful people to everyone but especially women. And I kept that small itty tiny grain of wariness. I told myself was irrational but sadly necessary when you are a women. First Neil Gaiman and now this ?! Fool me once. Okay. But fool me twice ? Damn it. Listen all of you. Even if it's really tempting. Just take the L like me if you aren't sure if you were too much on his side rather then her. Don't try to pretend you always had a bad feeling, knew all along or that because BL seem like an awful person she did that to herself. That's how you're going to get fooled THRICE. We don't have a super six sense to detect bad people. Except if we are being paranoid all the time. (Awful for your mental health) We are doomed to fail to spot them all. And yes, unethical campaign like that are done because they work, marketing wouldn't be a thing if we weren't able to be swayed by tactics like this. Refusing to acknowledge that we failed to notice it. It only harm us and victims.
And also like the other comments said. Saying BL brought it on herself. That's been a victim blamer and a hypocrite. You can't say you support victim of DV and SA. If you don't also support people you don't like or that are jerk. When you say you support victims of abuses. It's because the acts themselves are terrible and immoral. And everyone deserve supports and community and should have never went through that. Yes. EVERYONE. Even if a victim of DV and SA was a racist, sexist, ableist and on a list of most terrible people on earth. That person is a victim and deserve support and respect. No one ask you to like them or feel empathy. But you can have basic decency and not engage in victim blaming rhetoric or callous behaviors. (Hello commenters that say they don't care because Hollywood actors are usually jerks like it's the right place and moment for that)
It's like genocide. If someone genocided an entire category of people you think are total a**sholes. Your reaction should be to condemn it and try to help the survivors. That's immoral and those people deserve to be protected against that. And not. "Well, they're bad people. They did that to themselves. We shouldn't care about them." Then. Sorry. But you never gave a f*ck.
High school could NEVAHH like….qué???? 🤷🏾♂️
I saw previous interviews of BL and didn't like her much , still don't like her but nobody deserves to be sexual harrassed. I'm so disappointed by Justin here.He gave TED talks talking about feminism, toxic masculinity and such . I thought he was a green flag but boy ! Was I wrong. He seems disgusting . Ew!!
Thanks for this video Jess.
This movie is CURSED, jfc 👀
Why must actors always suck cant enjoy anything these days without stuff like this coming out its kinda a given with most things Hoover but this happens so often in Hollywood in general
Knew this project was cursed back when we saw the first images of the Lily attire Blake was wearing, but yeesh. It's all so much worse than we were hearing when the movie came out & I'm just never going to watch the movie because they & it are all mess. Clearly, they never should have finished making this movie. I feel like this complaint is to start the process for Blake to get the rights to It Starts With Us so she can make it without Baldoni. I, personally, do not think there should be a sequel given all this with the first movie. She's 💯 valid in filing this complaint, but I just hope she's not planning to actually do the other movie like removing him will fix all the issues from the 1st one.
Jess is such a pretty girl
Can I ask a dumb question why continue with the project with all these allegations.
well, I know nothing about the film industry but imagine in most work environments you cannot just quit without a reason at first sign of a boss or colleague being creepy, if you confront them they''ll say it was harmless joking/misunderstanding... you would not only lose money but also gain a reputation as someone hard to work with. But if you decide to stay, to tolerate for the time being-- either with the intention of 'this is a temporary project, let's just get over with' hoping it doesn't escalate, or with the intention of 'gathering evidence to make my case,'-- people would always be like 'if there really was something going on why didn't she come forward earlier...'
I am curious to see if Swoop will do a full documentery on this half of the situation or if it'll start off as a Swoop Too since it's more of an update of what she had learned in the situation. Her Documentry in this is pretty deep in exploring details as well talking about who these people are in more detail and what they have done. Right now I'm waiting on more details and a deeper dive before I make my decision but if any of this is true.
It honestly would break my heart if he was using these themes as a way to get away with things. I was rooting for him in a way because I didn't like how Colleen Hoover romantices it in a weird way as well as Blake Lively complied with this in her avertising. (I tried reading Colleen Hoover's books, *did not like them at all.* As an Abuse Survior, It Ends with Us did not resonate with me at all.). It should have been given content warning and not minimized for "sales". But I shouldn't be suprised... Colleen Hoover did think it was smart to sell a coloring book of the book and be cutsy... that tells me a lot more on how she views the subject matter than the lip service she says that she "understands the struggles". And I'm honestly hoping that Blake Lively's version never comes out because it'll just be pandering to Colleen Hoover's whims. Which shouldn't suprise me either because... The way she handled her Plantation Wedding should probably give you an idea what she thinks of senstive topics.
But I was honestly hoping that Justin Baldoni would rectify this within the film. I was hoping that he truely saw more in the book and how it could be shown in the perspective of abuse victums and surviors. But if the sexual harrassment, the use of press abuse part is true, and the Covid thing was true... I am very disappointed and betrayed because this will taint the work he was trying to do forever, and having our voices not heard even *more so* because there's a chance when people like me and others talk about it... we would be told we're over exaggerating. It's so much more harmful for our voices than it seems if this is the case.
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They are all horrible spoiled rich people, we should finally learn not to spend time supporting any of them.
This.
This is not a "both sides" situation: there is a victim, wealthy or not, and her abusers.
i think you missed the main point, it doesn't matter if they are horrible spoiled rich people, this type of thing can happen to good honest hard-working poor people too who often don't have the privilege or resources to protest or fight back! we should all care to strive for a world where this type of abuse isn't tolerated.
The thing about picket line crossing was interesting bc her husband crossed picket lines during the strike to rewrite the scene didn’t he?
Something seems fishy here. I don't know who's telling the truth, but I'm gonna treat this as none of my business.
I really don't care for any of these people and was only aware of this because of the commentary about the film and book. I think a lot of people in Hollywood are terrible...
As someone highly versed on ethics and business ethics in particular id say that the pr team that worked for Justin (im dyslexic and not going to even try and spell his last name) is in an ethical and moral grey area.
They were hired to do something and they did it. True they could have refused but also that could have gotten them fired, harmed their income and thus their ability to live, or even had other rumifications that we don't know about.
Honestly if they didn't do it then someone would have. And they are right they technically didn't do a smear campaign. They just presented a narrative and alowed people online to speculate and run with the idea that something shady was happening behind the scenes. 😅😅
Not exactly the most ethical thing to do but also yhey aren't monsters. I dont think that Blake lively deserves anything that happened, not the sexual harassment or Justin trying to make her look bad through deceptive neans, but the media campaign is, at the end of the day, on the person who payed for its creation and not entirely on the people that were doing their job.
Nah they’re the same team that represented Johnny depp. I wouldn’t trust them with shit
yeah that's how I feel. it sounds like the workplace was toxic and I still feel like Blake is a participant to that toxicity even if/when it is proven that the guy is a creep and sexual abuser/harasser
an 80 page lawsuit feels as much a PR campaign as whatever was happening this summer and the drama surrounding Blake was a least partially if not majorly organic content by humans and not bots like the JD case it's compared to. the interviewer that went viral spoke out that they were not connected to any campaign
1.) Blake smeared herself with her attitude and behavior. He didn't have to do anything to "smear her." Her behavior has been bad for years and former co-stars have talked about how bad she is.
2.) If she gets money from this lawsuit, every penny better go to a DV charity or she will be done with fans. I have only see people talking negatively about her for a couple of years now.
3.) If there is concrete proof of his wrongdoing (I haven't actually watched anything about this yet, I know nothing), then I believe she was a vicitim and that never should have happened.
Everyone involved is awful
And how do we know that this isn’t made up so she can redeem herself? With the connections she has, it wouldn’t surprise me. It sounds to me like she is suing him for acting. But honestly those Hollywood people are so dirty, I wouldn’t pick a side.
@@Alenakipredeeming herself for what? yea she has done shitty stuff in the past but these complaints are about stuff wayyy before the hate train. also yes the complaint is about the way he acted on set towards her and other cast members. looks like you fell for his hate campaign too.
I couldn’t care less about Blake and this movie drama, if you ask.. all of them are equally trashy, including Colleen.