Love the editing style. This is a really useful video to show for new players, especially those that do not know anything about the Remaster edition. Have an awesome day everyone! Thanks for the vid.
I was (and kind of still am) a huge fan of 5e. DnD podcasts really helped me through the apocalypse and I’m sad to see what they have become. People will say P2E is just as “modern” and that may be true but no executive has come out with open racist statements. Pathfinder is such a blast to play and my daughters and I love it very much. Welcome to a new path my friend.
Honestly.. I can’t reccomend it enough. Did the change myself about a year ago. Nearly cried when I opened their world guide books, they had so much quality content there. Wotc would bring us 2 sentences and a ”do it yourself” and charge the same.
I haven't given Hasbro a cent since the OGL fiasco. Literally no regrets, no plans to ever give them any cents ever again. Just not even worth it when we have way better products coming from elsewhere.
@monasteri1162 That's one of the big failures to me from WOTC and one of the huge successes of Paizo.... setting support. For the 5th edition, WOTC hasn't released anything I'd consider a full setting, just regional parts of larger settings. Third edition era D&D did so much to expand and elaborate on Forgotten Realms. And that all really went away with 4th and seemed to be forgotten entirely by the time 5th rolled out. A great setting and support for it will keep me playing a system I'm not extremely thrilled with.
This has been the first video on Remaster that I’ve found that actually explains these changes and neat interactions like Disarm and Reactive Strike that I needed. Thank you for that! Too many other videos just complain about DnD/WoTC or state these changes like I know what they mean. Earned an easy Like and Subscribe from me!
With the buff to crafting, I think the nerf you described to the Wizard class will be mitigated by having them able to craft or assist in the crafting of their own scrolls to learn new spells.
🤯 We never even thought of this LOL But how do you craft a scroll, you don't know the spell of? I would have to flavor this as research rather than crafting for my own head Canon.
@@goblinsalvagerites Also depending on campaign, or where you are on Golarion, you can pay some other spellcaster some money to provide the spellcasting 😏😏
This video was really well done! I'm one of those who's been looking at making the jump over to PF2, and the remaster was getting me a bit confused, so this was really helpful!
Thanks for the video and the edits. I enjoyed the highlights and text on screen instead of just being told what is changed. Also, I really enjoyed the examples with a lot of the changes.. helps to put everything in perspective from a new player/GM up PF2E!
Anyone... even wizards... can use shields. They just dont get Shield Block feat so they dont get the damage reduction aspect. They still get the AC bonus for Raise Shield action. War Priest Clerics, Fighters, and Druids do get Shield Block
Absolutely! But there's a big difference between being able to hold a shield and being any good at it, we were specifically talking to classes that have feats and abilities based on using a shield to its fullest potential.
@goblinsalvagerites given how much a +1 impacts the combat system and especially reducing the chance of getting hit by a critical success, any casters I play will be using a buckler. 😂 As useful as it is to have that damage reduction when you're a squishy class, spending a feat for Shield Block is well worth it for any Caster that expects to see combat regularly. And it's a General Feat. In a setting, flavor wise, I could see "wand and buckler" being a common style taught to war casters.
@JacksonOwex if you use the Shield Block ability of Shield spell, then you can't cast Shield at all for 10 minutes. The Shield Block feat is still well worth it for casters, especially with special materials buckler that have higher than usual. And when you have the lowest hit points in the game, once per round damage reductions of 5 or more IS useful
2:04 You still need a formula OR the item that you wish to make in order to craft something. If you have the item you're basically reverse engineering it and having a formula is... well, that should be obvious!
"Edicts and anathemas are beliefs that don't determine but guide your character's actions." Funny, that's how we were playing alignments too :P . If anything, these are closer to what I'd expect clerics, druids, champions etc to do.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Oracle, now that they've made it so you can expect to do more than one focus spell in an average fight.
Monster CRafting "Are you a murder hobo that needs a reason to suddenly profit from you sociopathic tendencies? Now you can completely slow down the game and drive your GM CRAZY...growing your pet up good and strong so you can make that armor that you always wanted?
It won't necessarily slow the game down if the GM has planned for it... And every GM knows what feeds their players have and plan for them... Right? Right? 🤣
Pretty cool vid....thnx! I've quickly realized, after having ran Pathfinder 2e for two years now, that it'll just be easier for me if I think of it and now it's own totally different game rather than doing the comparison thing with the Remaster. 🤓👍
I haven't read through Pathfinder 2e, but Kill is technically a spell in D&D... Power Word Kill. I used that and Power Word Stun on my players while DMing a couple times. They did not appreciate that, lol.
You could cast most spells with both your hands full before this actually. Only spells with material components needed your hands be free in the premaster. And because material components were rather rare, only needed to summoning spells and three action heal, IIRC, it was very rarely an issue.
Your Chaotic good is an example, but there are bench marks for each alignment. Wooden comes from poor play. I like the idea of -1 to +10 on the good evil scale when it gets to +10 you are evil beyond redemption and your character becomes an npc. The video games will always beat table mechanics of rolling dice and speed, but NEVER beat the Gm when it comes to rpg and other things related to play.
as a GM with the wizard, my ideas gonna be to run it pretty loose. the whole POINT is to be more free form with them. and i think if a player can send me a paragraph for why his construction worker has true strike and it makes SENSE... well im down. also the higher levels of pf2e wizards arent exactly FUN with school spells as they are now. many have spells useful at lv ONE, not useful RANK ONE spells. an important distinction when your a lv 15 wizard wanting to put SOMETHING your gonna use in a school slot
hey.... so it sounds like you have a good grasp on the new rules. I have a question.... what if you had a character with the skeleton ancestry that wanted to sanctify as holy because they wanted to serve the cause of good?? obviously the DM would have to make it work but I wanted to know what you knew about RAW says about it?
Because skeleton has not yet been updated for the Remaster, we don't know exactly how this works. However, it is highly unlikely that the skeleton ancestry would have the unholy trait by default. Even if it did, here's what the book has to say on the matter: "If you gain the opposing [sanctification] trait in some way, you lose the previous trait." In other words, you'd just gain the holy trait as normal, and would lose the unholy trait you had for being a skeleton. But again, it's very unlikely that the skeleton PCs will have the unholy trait imposed upon them because they are a special form of undead that is not devoted to "victimizing others, inflicting harm, and battling celestial powers", as the book describes the unholy trait.
Disarm sounds way too strong, now. I'm curious what will happen with martial heavy classes surrounding anything that relies on a weapon.. they can all attempt to disarm with MAP? Then when the boss/monster goes to correct it (interact), if they even have their weapon at all, they all get Reaction Strikes, too?? What's the counter play?
The reality is you still don't get completely disarmed until a critical failure. So it's not that much more powerful, we think it might bring it from "no one uses this" to "people actually build around it". But you never really know until you play games with it. If you get the chance to test it out, let us know how it goes!
17:44 For those that don't like to read: "Cool, this was ALL possible with alignments too! People just didn't want to learn how to use them properly so they whined and cried! Have fun reading all the Edicts and Anathemas instead of just a couple of words that said the same things! You "asked"(more like whined) for this!!!" 18:21 The implication being that alignment was somehow different?! If that is the case(and it sure sounds like it is), you couldn't be more wrong! 18:38 This could be done just as well with alignment! At least if players would actually take the small bit of time to learn how it was supposed to work! 18:52 No argument here, those ARE amazing stories!!! Though, again, it sounds like the implication is that it wasn't possible to do with alignments, which couldn't be farther from the truth!
Does 5th edition teach all sorts of bad habits? Also for those that don't want alignment-ok you are playing a part-yeah it's not supposed to be getting your rocks off by killing everything in site and robing and mayhem. "I don't like the restrictions that DND alignment places on me..." Well in new pathfinder you don't have alignment because of the wining little bitches that are playing now. They like video games...and not social games. TRPG is a SOCIAL GAME. I watch a lot of channels run Pathfinder but don't know the rules and often just run dnd with 3 action economy. PLEASE ADDRESS> :) COMMENT>
Thanks for engaging and, since you asked, I’ll throw down some thoughts. 1) If by bad habits you mean players bringing strategies that work in 5e to a PF2e table and wondering why it doesn’t work…still no. I think it would be unfair to judge a turtle for his performance in a bunny race. 2) As one of the whining little bitches, I’ll continue to argue that alignment promotes homogeneity of behaviors cultivating wooden experiences. Line up 100 CG characters against the wall and tell me you know their individual values. You can’t because CG isn’t specific it’s general. Now take those same 100 characters and give each a specific E & A then run the same exercise. Now you have 100 distinct “CG” personalities and moral/ethical codes with wildly different approaches to them. 3) Video-games are an excellent gateway experience for ttrps…as it was for this goblin! I was there when Final Fantasy I was released in ‘87 andIV in ‘91 and they made me feel like I was “playing in a novel” which is my evergreen goal for any ttrpg i play. With the patience and grace of some D&D friends (who never once called me a whiny little bitch) helped my to learn the new medium and its expectations. I was terrible at it…but I learned.
4) Watching a person “doing it wrong” and recognizing it is a wonderful moment! It means you’re internalizing the ruleset. If viewers aren’t questioning the quality and factual validity of what they are consuming…well, McContent will always be in demand. We get stuff wrong on GSR quite a bit and when its called out we acknowledge it and try to do better going forward. All this is to say that playing PF like it’s 5e with three action economy is not an invalid way to play the game. It’s non-optimal for sure, but it gets you across the finish line at any rate. It’s like an Italian & Spanish speakers having a chat in their native tongues. The roots are the same so they understand enough to participate and get through the experience together.
@@goblinsalvagerites DND is cutting off Portuguese...a rapidly growing section in the world. I just get pissed when I see official games do it. Not knowing how darkeness works or concealment. Or even the free percetion roll every turn.l Yeah I have run pathfinder 2 for over 4 years now. :) it's wierd since march 2020
That Portuguese maneuver was yet another revealing moment where the mask slipped a bit revealing the monster inside. Yay for short term profits I guess.
@@goblinsalvagerites well if you watch official pathfinder on twitch you will sit and scream pull out your hair. It's theater of the mind time and really DND rules.
Love the editing style. This is a really useful video to show for new players, especially those that do not know anything about the Remaster edition. Have an awesome day everyone! Thanks for the vid.
Thank you! Robert worked really hard on the editing!
yeah, I'm thinking of completely ditching Hasbro altogether. Patherfinder is just as good.
We'll be here for you 🫡
I was (and kind of still am) a huge fan of 5e. DnD podcasts really helped me through the apocalypse and I’m sad to see what they have become. People will say P2E is just as “modern” and that may be true but no executive has come out with open racist statements. Pathfinder is such a blast to play and my daughters and I love it very much. Welcome to a new path my friend.
Honestly.. I can’t reccomend it enough. Did the change myself about a year ago. Nearly cried when I opened their world guide books, they had so much quality content there. Wotc would bring us 2 sentences and a ”do it yourself” and charge the same.
I haven't given Hasbro a cent since the OGL fiasco. Literally no regrets, no plans to ever give them any cents ever again. Just not even worth it when we have way better products coming from elsewhere.
@monasteri1162 That's one of the big failures to me from WOTC and one of the huge successes of Paizo.... setting support. For the 5th edition, WOTC hasn't released anything I'd consider a full setting, just regional parts of larger settings.
Third edition era D&D did so much to expand and elaborate on Forgotten Realms. And that all really went away with 4th and seemed to be forgotten entirely by the time 5th rolled out. A great setting and support for it will keep me playing a system I'm not extremely thrilled with.
This has been the first video on Remaster that I’ve found that actually explains these changes and neat interactions like Disarm and Reactive Strike that I needed. Thank you for that!
Too many other videos just complain about DnD/WoTC or state these changes like I know what they mean. Earned an easy Like and Subscribe from me!
Thak you! We're trying to make our short videos as concise as possible to make up for the rambling we do on the podcast lol.
With the buff to crafting, I think the nerf you described to the Wizard class will be mitigated by having them able to craft or assist in the crafting of their own scrolls to learn new spells.
🤯 We never even thought of this LOL
But how do you craft a scroll, you don't know the spell of? I would have to flavor this as research rather than crafting for my own head Canon.
@@goblinsalvagerites Also depending on campaign, or where you are on Golarion, you can pay some other spellcaster some money to provide the spellcasting 😏😏
This video was really well done! I'm one of those who's been looking at making the jump over to PF2, and the remaster was getting me a bit confused, so this was really helpful!
Awesome! We're glad it helped!
Without understanding some of the context of why it happened, it seems like a pretty ridiculous change.
Thanks for the video and the edits. I enjoyed the highlights and text on screen instead of just being told what is changed. Also, I really enjoyed the examples with a lot of the changes.. helps to put everything in perspective from a new player/GM up PF2E!
Glad you enjoyed!
Anyone... even wizards... can use shields. They just dont get Shield Block feat so they dont get the damage reduction aspect. They still get the AC bonus for Raise Shield action. War Priest Clerics, Fighters, and Druids do get Shield Block
Absolutely! But there's a big difference between being able to hold a shield and being any good at it, we were specifically talking to classes that have feats and abilities based on using a shield to its fullest potential.
@goblinsalvagerites given how much a +1 impacts the combat system and especially reducing the chance of getting hit by a critical success, any casters I play will be using a buckler. 😂 As useful as it is to have that damage reduction when you're a squishy class, spending a feat for Shield Block is well worth it for any Caster that expects to see combat regularly. And it's a General Feat.
In a setting, flavor wise, I could see "wand and buckler" being a common style taught to war casters.
If Wizards want a shield though they should just take the cantrip, save the feat slot for something much more useful!
@JacksonOwex if you use the Shield Block ability of Shield spell, then you can't cast Shield at all for 10 minutes. The Shield Block feat is still well worth it for casters, especially with special materials buckler that have higher than usual.
And when you have the lowest hit points in the game, once per round damage reductions of 5 or more IS useful
2:04 You still need a formula OR the item that you wish to make in order to craft something. If you have the item you're basically reverse engineering it and having a formula is... well, that should be obvious!
Yay, more timestamps!
"Edicts and anathemas are beliefs that don't determine but guide your character's actions."
Funny, that's how we were playing alignments too :P . If anything, these are closer to what I'd expect clerics, druids, champions etc to do.
Thanka for the rundown. I havent actually played PF2E but I did buy and read the core rulebook. More stuff to memorize!
Heck yeah! It feels overwhelming sometimes. But the OGL died and we are paying for it's sins 😂
@@goblinsalvagerites But the OGL DIDN'T die, people just don't feel safe using it anymore. I can't blame them for that! Long live the ORC!!!
You have the books, the no reason to "MEMORIZE" them! You just want to try and remember how to find things in a quick fashion!
Great video, thanks for putting in the work. Looking for the link to the Nomenclature document though...
Thank you!
Link is incoming, Robert posted the video before he finished the document 😬
Well respond and let you know when it's been updated.
Link to the quick reference doc for remaster nomenclature changes: pricey-algebra-b31.notion.site/PF2R-Nomenclature-f162628d428a452d97859e5f7ced3557
It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Oracle, now that they've made it so you can expect to do more than one focus spell in an average fight.
Yeah, we've never really liked what they did with the Oracle, hoping it changes for the better. But it's likely not going to change too dramatically.
Monster CRafting "Are you a murder hobo that needs a reason to suddenly profit from you sociopathic tendencies? Now you can completely slow down the game and drive your GM CRAZY...growing your pet up good and strong so you can make that armor that you always wanted?
It won't necessarily slow the game down if the GM has planned for it... And every GM knows what feeds their players have and plan for them... Right? Right? 🤣
Pretty cool vid....thnx! I've quickly realized, after having ran Pathfinder 2e for two years now, that it'll just be easier for me if I think of it and now it's own totally different game rather than doing the comparison thing with the Remaster. 🤓👍
Yea that's a really good way to think of it.
I haven't read through Pathfinder 2e, but Kill is technically a spell in D&D... Power Word Kill. I used that and Power Word Stun on my players while DMing a couple times. They did not appreciate that, lol.
Lol yea your right! We like including outtakes when we can.
You could cast most spells with both your hands full before this actually. Only spells with material components needed your hands be free in the premaster. And because material components were rather rare, only needed to summoning spells and three action heal, IIRC, it was very rarely an issue.
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Your Chaotic good is an example, but there are bench marks for each alignment. Wooden comes from poor play. I like the idea of -1 to +10 on the good evil scale when it gets to +10 you are evil beyond redemption and your character becomes an npc. The video games will always beat table mechanics of rolling dice and speed, but NEVER beat the Gm when it comes to rpg and other things related to play.
Endorsing the ultimate goblin wizard school. Go for the shiny!
Absolutely!
as a GM with the wizard, my ideas gonna be to run it pretty loose. the whole POINT is to be more free form with them. and i think if a player can send me a paragraph for why his construction worker has true strike and it makes SENSE... well im down. also the higher levels of pf2e wizards arent exactly FUN with school spells as they are now. many have spells useful at lv ONE, not useful RANK ONE spells. an important distinction when your a lv 15 wizard wanting to put SOMETHING your gonna use in a school slot
Probably our favorite part of the change to wizards is the ability to homebrew your own wizard schools!
"We all got it on the 15th of November, the same as everybody else."
Well... Everybody except Robert lol
Sorry Robert, couldn't help myself lol
Lmaooooo yes. I'm still not over that 😒
I've been told, and it may not be true, the only reason they kept ability scores in 2e is because playtesters wanted them to.
That sounds very plausible lmao
hey.... so it sounds like you have a good grasp on the new rules. I have a question.... what if you had a character with the skeleton ancestry that wanted to sanctify as holy because they wanted to serve the cause of good?? obviously the DM would have to make it work but I wanted to know what you knew about RAW says about it?
Because skeleton has not yet been updated for the Remaster, we don't know exactly how this works. However, it is highly unlikely that the skeleton ancestry would have the unholy trait by default. Even if it did, here's what the book has to say on the matter: "If you gain the opposing [sanctification] trait in some way, you lose the previous trait." In other words, you'd just gain the holy trait as normal, and would lose the unholy trait you had for being a skeleton. But again, it's very unlikely that the skeleton PCs will have the unholy trait imposed upon them because they are a special form of undead that is not devoted to "victimizing others, inflicting harm, and battling celestial powers", as the book describes the unholy trait.
Yeah as others have said it's kind of hard to tell right now, but if you have GM buy-in anything is possible.
Very Informative. Liked and commenting to help.
Thank you, it's much appreciated!
great concise video - keep it up
Thank you! After we wrote the script we thought people wouldn't like it cuz it was still 30 minutes long after all the cutting we did LOL.
I must admit that I am saddened that the sorcerer was left out of the first core book.
Me too friend. 🫠
@@goblinsalvagerites *Nods*
Power word kill exists hahaha, good vid!
Lmao you're right!
Part of me wishes that they removed partial boosts, but they probably it for the math at higher levels.
Yea, changing that would have been a MUCH greater change.
Huh?
Disarm sounds way too strong, now. I'm curious what will happen with martial heavy classes surrounding anything that relies on a weapon.. they can all attempt to disarm with MAP?
Then when the boss/monster goes to correct it (interact), if they even have their weapon at all, they all get Reaction Strikes, too?? What's the counter play?
The reality is you still don't get completely disarmed until a critical failure. So it's not that much more powerful, we think it might bring it from "no one uses this" to "people actually build around it".
But you never really know until you play games with it. If you get the chance to test it out, let us know how it goes!
Reactive Strikes are not as common in PF2 as they are in D&D or PF1. I don't think it's going to change too much.
how is your goblin EVERY going to move an ogre?
Sheer force of will. 😎
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It's been a while since the video was released, but I noticed 3 for the four elemental language got mixed.
Like your channel!
Thank you!
Did I miss the link to the nomenclature doc?
Link is incoming Robert posted the video before he finished the document 😬
Well respond and let you know when it's been updated. 🫣
Link to the quick reference doc for remaster nomenclature changes: pricey-algebra-b31.notion.site/PF2R-Nomenclature-f162628d428a452d97859e5f7ced3557
Where's that link for the nomenclature thing?
Link is incoming Robert posted the video before he finished the document 😬
Well respond and let you know when it's been updated. 🫣
Link to the quick reference doc for remaster nomenclature changes: pricey-algebra-b31.notion.site/PF2R-Nomenclature-f162628d428a452d97859e5f7ced3557
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17:44 For those that don't like to read: "Cool, this was ALL possible with alignments too! People just didn't want to learn how to use them properly so they whined and cried! Have fun reading all the Edicts and Anathemas instead of just a couple of words that said the same things! You "asked"(more like whined) for this!!!"
18:21 The implication being that alignment was somehow different?! If that is the case(and it sure sounds like it is), you couldn't be more wrong!
18:38 This could be done just as well with alignment! At least if players would actually take the small bit of time to learn how it was supposed to work!
18:52 No argument here, those ARE amazing stories!!! Though, again, it sounds like the implication is that it wasn't possible to do with alignments, which couldn't be farther from the truth!
I’m getting the sense you like alignments
Possible in one hand and Probable in the other…see which one fills up faster.
I don't think the ancestery lore gives that feat. Does it?
Why get rid of spell components? Now wizards are just getting their hands chopped off whenever the party gets captured...
Had to chuckle, assimar is aasimar😂😂 but other than that: faaantastic video mate😊😊😊
😜 We always leave Easter eggs for our fans!
That whole slide is actually backwards, but he still explains it correctly.. whoops!!
for swaping and quickdraw..why would you EVER SWAP? :) seems silly. drop for free and quickdraw.:)
Because proactive GM’s know the difference and make both options punishing at different times.
Does 5th edition teach all sorts of bad habits? Also for those that don't want alignment-ok you are playing a part-yeah it's not supposed to be getting your rocks off by killing everything in site and robing and mayhem. "I don't like the restrictions that DND alignment places on me..." Well in new pathfinder you don't have alignment because of the wining little bitches that are playing now. They like video games...and not social games. TRPG is a SOCIAL GAME. I watch a lot of channels run Pathfinder but don't know the rules and often just run dnd with 3 action economy. PLEASE ADDRESS> :) COMMENT>
Thanks for engaging and, since you asked, I’ll throw down some thoughts.
1) If by bad habits you mean players bringing strategies that work in 5e to a PF2e table and wondering why it doesn’t work…still no.
I think it would be unfair to judge a turtle for his performance in a bunny race.
2) As one of the whining little bitches, I’ll continue to argue that alignment promotes homogeneity of behaviors cultivating wooden experiences.
Line up 100 CG characters against the wall and tell me you know their individual values. You can’t because CG isn’t specific it’s general.
Now take those same 100 characters and give each a specific E & A then run the same exercise. Now you have 100 distinct “CG” personalities and moral/ethical codes with wildly different approaches to them.
3) Video-games are an excellent gateway experience for ttrps…as it was for this goblin! I was there when Final Fantasy I was released in ‘87 andIV in ‘91 and they made me feel like I was “playing in a novel” which is my evergreen goal for any ttrpg i play. With the patience and grace of some D&D friends (who never once called me a whiny little bitch) helped my to learn the new medium and its expectations. I was terrible at it…but I learned.
4) Watching a person “doing it wrong” and recognizing it is a wonderful moment! It means you’re internalizing the ruleset. If viewers aren’t questioning the quality and factual validity of what they are consuming…well, McContent will always be in demand. We get stuff wrong on GSR quite a bit and when its called out we acknowledge it and try to do better going forward. All this is to say that playing PF like it’s 5e with three action economy is not an invalid way to play the game. It’s non-optimal for sure, but it gets you across the finish line at any rate.
It’s like an Italian & Spanish speakers having a chat in their native tongues. The roots are the same so they understand enough to participate and get through the experience together.
@@goblinsalvagerites DND is cutting off Portuguese...a rapidly growing section in the world. I just get pissed when I see official games do it. Not knowing how darkeness works or concealment. Or even the free percetion roll every turn.l Yeah I have run pathfinder 2 for over 4 years now. :) it's wierd since march 2020
That Portuguese maneuver was yet another revealing moment where the mask slipped a bit revealing the monster inside. Yay for short term profits I guess.
@@goblinsalvagerites well if you watch official pathfinder on twitch you will sit and scream pull out your hair. It's theater of the mind time and really DND rules.