he targeted the abom a couple times but he was spamming right click so he was misclicking the pet and the ghoul tryingand ended up with the wrong target. I would still say its only 90% his fault though because emilya didnt have inner fire on.
@@Monstufpud Yeah they did. They 100% could have saved themselves. But also they shouldn't have to have saved themselves if Tyler was doing his job correctly which he wasn't. He's bad.
think he still doesn't fully understand that as a tank you want shit to be on you 100% of the time as much as possible the moment anything engages the group
nah even though his reaction was still late, he tried to taunt and misclicked ghoul instead of tab targetting, still his fault almost entirely either way
It's easy to backseat, but shield, fade and they'd both be alive. Or ofc T1 hitting it before it ran past. Or Emilya not being so close. Lots of lessons.
@fico1500 that's not even what happened though. He tried and was clearly attentive he just messed up. He's not falling asleep 😂 why yall so delusional when trying to defend him messing up? It's OK to mess up in a game you know, especially when you are new...
@@bezacho wrong, he taunts the ghoul by mistake and because the abom doesn't turn to him it confuses him. You can see the taunt debuff on the ghoul when he's targeting it. He tried and was attentive. He just panicked because the button he pressed didn't work. That's fine but it wasn't because he was so bored and falling asleep.
I love Tyler but this is 100% his fault. He is clicking abilities, has no threat plate, doesn't know or care what half his abilities do unless they do damage. Remember when Sketch played league and Tyler was laughing his ass off and making fun of him for clicking abilities? That's EXACTLY what he's doing here. He is playing WoW like the equivalent of an Iron player. He is genuinely getting these people killed and wasting hours of their lives and then says "I'm so sorry!!! No one told me what to do!" as if he can't fucking read for 2 seconds and see what his abilities do. He's not wrong, WoW is not a hard game, he just refuses to actually learn how to tank, let alone play the game properly. You had 12 year olds main tanking Naxx in 2007 while playing at 15 fps, he should not be struggling to maintain aggro at all. Not to mention him clicking mobs instead of tab targeting, the league equivalent of playing with locked cam.
i agree with most what u said but this is hardcore end game pre bis loot dungeons.... yes a avg play would do most what u just said but he is NEW this is his second toon which also means as a healer or any dps u have to make the decision do i want this new player to tank my HARDCORE strat undead dungeon lol. These type of dungeons Ubers strat scholo can have a domino effect with little mistakes and subpar experience. Again his fault for most part and hers as well taking a new player who clicks and thinks he is good but then the reality hits that your tank is brand fucking new
It is 100% the tanks fault. Just becuse the tank could just taunt the right mob. The rogue could gauge/vanish+cheapshot or distract before mob gets in combat. Hunter can send pet in as soon as it aggros. The mage can slow/frost nova. But its just expected that the tank grabs aggro right away. The priest is way to close aswell, the mob is pathing right towards her and she just stands there. Even tho the mob is aggroed to the hunter, healing aggro change that in seconds. BUT, a big but. Tyler1 is not a wow player, he literally started playing the game few weeks ago. There was no such thing as hardcore wow back in 2004. Everyone died and everyone sucked donkey dick.
There was many mistakes and misplays there by several people, but in the end t1 should have fixed the situation easily by taunting the correct mob. Unfortunately he underestimated how deadly those are to clothies and messed up by taunting the wrong mob.
So he sees the Patchwork Horror, targets it, then targets Useful, then the Plague Ghoul, then Useful again, then Yamdef, then Plague Ghoul again, then back to Useful, then taunts the Plague Ghoul while the Patchwork Horror makes a beeline for Emilya. By the time he targets the Patchwork Horror again, he doesnt have time to gain threat. He needs to get used to tab targetting
He won't. It's the equivalent of playing locked cam on league yet he still refuses to do it and then cries when people say he's bad at tanking. Toddlers were main tanking Naxx at 15 fps on 100 ping in 2007, there is zero reason Tyler should be struggling if he actually put in the effort to learn what half his abilities do.
It was on the hunter for the majority of its very slow run. Emilya MIGHT have been the slightest bit too close but no one should have been touching that mob except the tank wtf are they doing. It’s 80% T1’s fault and 20% Geranimo’s.
@@choadsmoker5451 yes you shouldn't be a clicker in wow Is funny since Tyler is a challenger lvl player he definetly has the hands to stop been a clicker yet here we are xD
@@choadsmoker5451 Tab targeting is not the answer, clicking your targets is much more practical, when you have more than 3 mobs tab targeting is troll af as a tank
Honestly I have no idea why he's tanking. It's not at all enjoyable in vanilla and you need so many 3rd party addons to do it correctly. 1-2 threat related addons minimum and likely more in addition to very high game knowledge. Why is he not just playing DPS warrior or any other class and just doing dps? At most he needs to download a threat addon but more realistically he just needs to sit and jerk off for 5-10 seconds at the start of a fight before going in on a boss.
It’s Tyler’s fault dude, sure other people are made mistakes by not taunting, but it’s the tanks primary job to taunt the mobs and keep people from dying, Tank L quit coping.
The mob was patrolling and going to reach them anyways and one heal and Tyler loses aggro anyways. Tyler just sucks at spreading his aggro and doesn't understand the utility of AoEs in holding threat. He believes thunderclap is trash meanwhile he charges into every pack of mobs just heroic strike as he sees every mob walk straight past him towards his party members.
Tyler had lots of rage, could have sundered, could have used revenge, could have used stun, he had litearlly everything and just decided to spam taunt which was on CD for 5 seconds
bad tank is bad. i would very much blame the tank here. He only did two white hits before he KO'd the healer. He had enough rage to shield bash, taunt, anything besides two basic attacks against that mob. Those two basic attacks would do nothing to overcome healer threat from healing. That is shit any decent tank should have picked up on by this point in the journey. Especially if they've been tanking dungeons like this sack getting dragged through.
Yeah and not only that but he was spamming Tab trying to target the Abom for a taunt and ended up taunting the ghoul while the patchwerk mob built up 45 minutes of Thrash and triple melee'd a clothie 😂
Bad players are going to die. Alt tabbing to chat windows, clicking instead of keybinding, not communicating in discord, too busy moderating twitch chat.
@@vickinovick463 who says they are mute? Could be a stunt for all I know. Tyler1 said the same thing so that's where this is coming from. Hate on Tyler1 if you dont like that opinion.
which shouldn't be the main focus. The main focus should be tyler not tanking the biggest mob out of the pack and yamato grabbing threat on mobs that tyler doesn't have threat on.
Emilya is healing melee range, this entire dungeon she didn't play like she usually does for some reason, and it made her insta die when something went wrong. But ultimately still tylers fault even though none of them knew that dude would one shot he should have taunted and have mobs stick to him, i thought he improved a lot with ahmpy but now it looks like everything he learned went out the window.
He doesn't learn because he dislikes anyone that actually critiques him. The fact that Geronimoh said the dungeon was going perfectly until then was laughable. He was losing aggro on so many mobs and the only reason it wasn't a bigger disaster was because of the mage's improved blizzard slowing and kiting all the loose mobs.
@ agreed. I’d never group with someone who can take no responsibility after he gets me killed. I don’t feel bad for this Emilya either. Just funny no one thinks he needs to learn the game himself lol.
@@brandonhoward9610 bro emilya went form 100 views, to 2/3k views after dieing to tyler1, she got bunch of subs and donations for that, she is fine with this, she knows what shes doing. Also some dudes saying it might be a guy pretending to be a mute girl, just make this even more hilarious xD
@@wolololer DUDE I believe it. Thats honestly genius. Wow players are big coomers. In vanilla I pretended to be a girl and got sooo much free gold and help with anything I needed lmao.
you would think a challenger player could click on a massive mob and press a single button as it slowly walks past him. After 3 or 4 healers you gotta blame the tank at some point
i mean its like 80-90% tanks fault...but MULTIPLE people failed, Healer for being that close...rogue could have vanished / distracted pat as it approached, hunter pet could taunt, multiple classes with stuns...just a not played WoW much before group and mistakes are part of it.
Hunter pet taunt isn't exactly instant and guaranteed. It doesn't force the target to attack the pet, just increases aggro by a lot. Also it can be resisted.
she was standing way too close is the real problem. Fade doesn't work like feign death, it doesn't fully drop aggro. If you have healer threat, and no one else has attacked it, fade will do nothing. Those Aboms should be kited by ranged mobs anyways, they have a nasty Aoe around them.
to be fair, people die way faster than you would realize in classic WoW. 1 shots from trash are not uncommon. Especially in a raid environment, you will die to stuff that you didn't even know existed if you aren't extremely careful.
@@TheYakkinator Oh yeah, but these are classic WoW players. We're not known for "fast reactions" lol. I just mean that no one expects the mob to kill you immediately when its in range because its "just a trash mob", but that's just not how classic works.
Tyler has improved alot the past week, but still has long to go before he can be considered a solid tank. His movement is leagues better than it was for example, and he is making decent progress every day. When things are calm and normal hes doing pretty good now, but when shit hits the fan he gets easily flustered and struggles with his abilities and keybinds. This takes his focus away from whats actually going on in the game and he makes mistakes or is too slow to react. I dont really think there is a quick and easy fix to this problem, its something that gets fixed with experience over time. If anything he really should do something with his atrocious actionbar, keybind and macro situation, but it seems he really dosnt want to. He can simplify the warrior playstyle so much with help from macros, and a proper setup for his actionbars. This would probably help him alot by simplifying things. When others told him to get help with it previously he straight up refused. At this point its semi irresponsible to continue opreate this way lol :D I know its overwhelming to try and learn so much stuff at the same time, but I think hes getting good enough with other things now, that he should be ok to try and fix this issue also now.
Yamato should not have asspulled and just use vanish instead of saying "I'm dead, I'm dead", which probably made Emilya panic. T1 should not have taken 8 long ass seconds to taunt the damn when there are only 2 mobs on the screen. Emilya should have moved earlier instead of priotizing healing Yamatos ass, the moment he got from 70% to 100% she moved, which was already too late. To be fair, as a healer I would not expect the tank to take 8 full seconds to take aggro on a slow moving mob, so it is somewhat understandable that she moved so late, with her priotizing healing Yamato.
Hard disagree, you're 100% a noob healer if you stand there and watch a slowed mob move into melee with you. Tyler could've played better, but Emilya put herself in that situation
@@RandomWrongDeletion Didnt i say exactly that? "Emilya should have moved earlier instead of priotizing healing Yamatos ass." She is new to wow and a noob at healing, thats why i said it is understandable in her case. A good healer would obviously play the entire situation differently.
@ You said “As a healer I would not expect the tank to take 8 full seconds to aggro a mob” meaning you’d stand there too, so I’m not calling her a noob I’m calling you a noob as well.
Yea this dude has to learn to use tab targeting he spend 70% of the fight trying to click models. This is like watch a draven player not use Q. Its that level of grief
Maybe, but Tyler actually has zero clue what he's doing. He is playing WoW like the equivalent of an Iron player and wondering why things go wrong. If he knew how to tab target he could have saved her, but he is adamant on being a clicker.
Tyler needs threat plates. He does not realize which mobs are attacking him and which mobs are not. That's literally your job as a tank, protect your teammates!
It's not his fault though. He said threat plates look ugly. What's another priest's 200 hours of play time compared to a clean UI? I'd sacrifice the healer every time.
tyler one is bad at wow and unbelievably carried, other new players have learned so much faster than him and he literally gets payed to play, the refusal to even put in the simplest amount of effort is mind boggling, he’s lucky that he can power smaller streamers into healing for him because they want to be able to make a living
Best part is that the knockback on the Big Green Guy has a threat drop. As a tank you have to be ready to taunt that guy. I also have a feeling that Emilya didnt have inner fire up as well as max defense but doesnt matter. Needed to get threat as a tank.
So that was absolutely a tank fail... it shows that tanking is not "easy" in hardcore, if your goal is to keep everyone alive. HOWEVER, there was absolutely no reason for Emilya to be standing that close. Healing spells have some of the longest range of any spells in WoW, she needed to be at least as far back as the hunter.
if you watch it back and focus on the big dudes movement you can see it was targeted on yamato and he drew it back to emilya, she wasn't standing in melee range like everyone said she was. Emilya survives if she doesn't heal yamato but that's hindsight. Tyler wasn't locked in and just needed to go auto him for threat didn't even need to taunt.
Tyler DID auto. He didn't get threat because the heal aggro was more. He needs to not CLICK. He clicked the ghoul instead of the patchwork. If he used tab-targeting this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
@@Ixrin yeah autos don't generate much threat tbh. The need for succesful autos for warriors is more to generate rage, so they can use their threat generating abilities. Turtle-paced reaction speed and refusal to use a 30 second AoE taunt cool down was the main issue here.
Tyler's first encounter with the thrash mechanic. Basically some mobs, like the aboms, will stack extra attacks for every set duration of time they're not meleeing someone. So since the abom had ten seconds to stack thrash while slow walking to Emilya? She got deleted.
@@Unf0rget He knew the abom was a threat to his team and he tried to get it. He made a mistake and taunted the wrong mob and then panicked. He also has dealt with thrash already and has had it explained to him. He just messed up guys. He made a mistake. It's OK to make mistakes you know.
Pet doesn’t need stun. If it goes on the mob and uses growl it gets aggro there. But priest would likely need to be at caster range for the threat reduction.
This group was so lost, Yamato seing the Patrol mob and taking from damage from it and just saying ouchie, he hurts , T1 clicking the wrong mob to taunt and looking at the mob going the speed of a tractor, emilya a little to close and getting healing aggro and the other guys focusing on the smaller mobs, another free pc for emilya, wowzers
nah i cant lie what soda said about him not caring is true i was on tyler's side before but this has happened too many times idk why tf he's allowed to tank when he just stands there not autoing for 5 seconds consistently, he's still my favorite streamer but he has to unironically drop the ego or he will wipe a raid
@@duckerdy5722its an excuse he hides behind as insurance. others should not have to cater to him being bad. he should improve his gameplay for others.
Emilya is a Saint for healing that Rogue. But also, If a Rogue doesn't Vanish when they've got aggro on an Abomination with stacks. Then maybe they've gotta die to learn that lesson. Sure, Tyler misclicked on the Ghoul Taunt, but why did the pet not taunt? Why is Emilya spot healing a Rogue that should know better than to have aggro.
Nah, Hunter absolutely could have pet taunted, and priest should NOT have been so close. T1 also taunted the baby mob, instead of the fat boy. Was a collective fail.
It really pisses me off that something these people should be doing, which takes less than 10 seconds. Is costing Emilya 200+ hours of leveling/gearing a new character back up. She was literally carrying, and then everyone let her down. Sad. Also, this isn't just Tyler's fault. The Rogue should not have had Aggro. He also could have Vanished. And the Hunter's Pet could have Taunted.
I think he needs to like watch the button presses of a good tank to understand the flow. There are so many times where he has resources available even in non emergency situations to hold threat better and he just stands there AA
Thrash = Mob will stack up extra attacks if it hasn't attacked anything for a while. Up to 4 stacks... hitting you 4-5 times in 1 attack. Its literally the Paladin Reckoning ability for mobs. So here the mob didn't attack anyone for 3 auto attacks worth of time... and blapped the healer 3-4 times instantly.
To be fair Yamato pulled the abom, Tyler would pull it like a few secs later anyway, because noone paid attention but not a single person was like hey carefull patrol coming..
10 % tyler's fault for not taunting, 10% emilya's fault for joining a dungeon with Tyler and standing too close, 80% Mizkif's fault.
😂😂😂
Bruh do you know how onlyfangs works? T1 is the second highest streamer in the guild compared to Soda. They are content farming, not try harding wow.
Wassup with miz
@@chedisLoL ok
Classic one line
“WAITER! WAITER! More healers please!”
tyler taunted the ghoul LMAO, he didn't tab swap to the abom
he targeted the abom a couple times but he was spamming right click so he was misclicking the pet and the ghoul tryingand ended up with the wrong target. I would still say its only 90% his fault though because emilya didnt have inner fire on.
tab targeting is very hard apparently xd
@@ihmen It's his fault but she also wouldn't have died if she had better positioning.
@@ickyfist as slow as the abom was walking they had plenty of time to run away from it
@@Monstufpud Yeah they did. They 100% could have saved themselves. But also they shouldn't have to have saved themselves if Tyler was doing his job correctly which he wasn't. He's bad.
“Didn’t want to waste my taunt” … pentakill
TONK TUAH DID IT AGAIN
MORE HEALERS FOR THE MOO GOD
5/1
TONK ON THAT THANG
Lmaoooo
TONK TUAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Taunted the wrong target “he’s taunt immune run!”
He is target immune
Bro is a 5-role Challenger and can't click
It's a tab-targeting game for a reason how is no one mentioning this.
Maybe he's right about WoW viewers.
@@Ixrin people have told him to tab target a million times. he refuses.
I dont' think he expected it to do this much damage lol
dude still has zero concept of threat lol, just watches the abomb slowly mosey on by
LOL. That's literally what happens on every pull.
think he still doesn't fully understand that as a tank you want shit to be on you 100% of the time as much as possible the moment anything engages the group
nah even though his reaction was still late, he tried to taunt and misclicked ghoul instead of tab targetting, still his fault almost entirely either way
Does he know heals and shield generate threat?
Still got 60 on his second try ever > majority of wow "veterans"
I died laughing when he casually wrote "looking for healer strat ud" in guild chat xD
same i was rolling
timestamp?
@@nataliep6385 prob lots of clips of where this happened, not hard to find it, unless u mean youtube timestamp
Lmao no way
6:46 @@nataliep6385
I know Tyler’s mainly at fault here, but watching yamato say “I’m dead” and then emilya panic shields him just for patch to turn to her and one shot.
I think he legit thought he was about to die there, if he did get hit again he was dead.
he did get punched by the abom and dropped to 50%
It's easy to backseat, but shield, fade and they'd both be alive. Or ofc T1 hitting it before it ran past. Or Emilya not being so close. Lots of lessons.
Yamato irritates the hell out of me ngl, I really hate people who can't say a word without being silly little tricksters and trolls
if you heal a dungeon that tyler1 is tanking, you're asking to die.
if you heal strat and don't know not to stand in melee range*
@@stewie4467 this exactly, the man pretending to be a girl is a noob amd died. Hes a clout chases and is a joke. Mute
... ya fuck no
She might lose a character but she's gaining a fuckton of subs and viewers from the t1 clout. Worth
@@critamine 100% worth many times over that silly game death
8 seconds he walked waiting for a taunt, he almost grew old while waiting for the tank to act
yea they are all shit, but i kinda understand it. Its a slow paced easy game that makes you fall asleep and then when you have to react you just don't
@@fico1500 fr, i died twice this way
@fico1500 that's not even what happened though. He tried and was clearly attentive he just messed up.
He's not falling asleep 😂 why yall so delusional when trying to defend him messing up? It's OK to mess up in a game you know, especially when you are new...
@@MrBowes-wb2wo as soon as you see a new mob you need to build threat on it, sunder, taunt, anything. tyler does nothing until the mob is past him.
@@bezacho wrong, he taunts the ghoul by mistake and because the abom doesn't turn to him it confuses him. You can see the taunt debuff on the ghoul when he's targeting it.
He tried and was attentive. He just panicked because the button he pressed didn't work. That's fine but it wasn't because he was so bored and falling asleep.
I love Tyler but this is 100% his fault. He is clicking abilities, has no threat plate, doesn't know or care what half his abilities do unless they do damage. Remember when Sketch played league and Tyler was laughing his ass off and making fun of him for clicking abilities? That's EXACTLY what he's doing here. He is playing WoW like the equivalent of an Iron player. He is genuinely getting these people killed and wasting hours of their lives and then says "I'm so sorry!!! No one told me what to do!" as if he can't fucking read for 2 seconds and see what his abilities do. He's not wrong, WoW is not a hard game, he just refuses to actually learn how to tank, let alone play the game properly. You had 12 year olds main tanking Naxx in 2007 while playing at 15 fps, he should not be struggling to maintain aggro at all. Not to mention him clicking mobs instead of tab targeting, the league equivalent of playing with locked cam.
Tyler is playing wow at 1000x the skill ability Sketch was playing Lol
@@TheHolyVindicate 1000 x zero is still zero....
i agree with most what u said but this is hardcore end game pre bis loot dungeons.... yes a avg play would do most what u just said but he is NEW this is his second toon which also means as a healer or any dps u have to make the decision do i want this new player to tank my HARDCORE strat undead dungeon lol. These type of dungeons Ubers strat scholo can have a domino effect with little mistakes and subpar experience. Again his fault for most part and hers as well taking a new player who clicks and thinks he is good but then the reality hits that your tank is brand fucking new
DOPA DOWN
tyler taunted the ghoul and the rogue didnt distract the patchwork before he aggroed also hunter could have pet taunt. this was a group fail
With the amount of shit that CC's in this dungeon the healer had absolutely no business being so close to melee.
It is 100% the tanks fault. Just becuse the tank could just taunt the right mob.
The rogue could gauge/vanish+cheapshot or distract before mob gets in combat. Hunter can send pet in as soon as it aggros. The mage can slow/frost nova. But its just expected that the tank grabs aggro right away.
The priest is way to close aswell, the mob is pathing right towards her and she just stands there. Even tho the mob is aggroed to the hunter, healing aggro change that in seconds.
BUT, a big but. Tyler1 is not a wow player, he literally started playing the game few weeks ago. There was no such thing as hardcore wow back in 2004. Everyone died and everyone sucked donkey dick.
@@viikmaqic 100% true just a new player moment.
There was many mistakes and misplays there by several people, but in the end t1 should have fixed the situation easily by taunting the correct mob. Unfortunately he underestimated how deadly those are to clothies and messed up by taunting the wrong mob.
she was standing too close because she sucks at wow.
woman gamer moment.
Tyler..always bragging about how he only died once but those around him....watch out
So he sees the Patchwork Horror, targets it, then targets Useful, then the Plague Ghoul, then Useful again, then Yamdef, then Plague Ghoul again, then back to Useful, then taunts the Plague Ghoul while the Patchwork Horror makes a beeline for Emilya. By the time he targets the Patchwork Horror again, he doesnt have time to gain threat. He needs to get used to tab targetting
Lmfao
He won't. It's the equivalent of playing locked cam on league yet he still refuses to do it and then cries when people say he's bad at tanking. Toddlers were main tanking Naxx at 15 fps on 100 ping in 2007, there is zero reason Tyler should be struggling if he actually put in the effort to learn what half his abilities do.
You sound like a jealous hater @@superlad6684
It was on the hunter for the majority of its very slow run. Emilya MIGHT have been the slightest bit too close but no one should have been touching that mob except the tank wtf are they doing. It’s 80% T1’s fault and 20% Geranimo’s.
How do you tab target?
abom is so big and bro can't even click it
Clicking mobs can be a bit scuffed in WoW. Tyler needs to excercise using tab target
@@choadsmoker5451 yes you shouldn't be a clicker in wow
Is funny since Tyler is a challenger lvl player he definetly has the hands to stop been a clicker yet here we are xD
@@choadsmoker5451 Tab targeting is not the answer, clicking your targets is much more practical, when you have more than 3 mobs tab targeting is troll af as a tank
Still clicking, still not taunting. More healers please
90% Tylers fault for not taunting the mob that can 1 shot people, 10% Emilyas fault for standing way too close with Tyler tanking.
I agree
35% Tyler, 25% Emilya, 40% Yamato
100 emilias fault for grouping up with tyler
stay away from this dude
swap those numbers and ur right. the idea that its his fault for her actions is comical. simps galore.
@@user-kh7tg8my4nshe’s a mute v tuber 😂 if she’s actually a guy I would die laughing at all her simps and have mad respect for the hustle
The little blood sacrifice for good luck ofc
her position should've been further back
He had one job.
It's like they are playing eyes closed. How do you not see this massive green blob slowly walking to you
Tyler is now realizing the dangers of being level 60. He will hate being a tank.
No1 taught him the part where tanks are the ones that die the most, if he knew that he would not go for tank.
@@wolololeror maybe if he dies he just goes back to playing LoL so it's not a big deal
Honestly I have no idea why he's tanking. It's not at all enjoyable in vanilla and you need so many 3rd party addons to do it correctly. 1-2 threat related addons minimum and likely more in addition to very high game knowledge. Why is he not just playing DPS warrior or any other class and just doing dps? At most he needs to download a threat addon but more realistically he just needs to sit and jerk off for 5-10 seconds at the start of a fight before going in on a boss.
That was yam butt pulling. Emilya standing in melee, and everyone not using taunt.
It’s Tyler’s fault dude, sure other people are made mistakes by not taunting, but it’s the tanks primary job to taunt the mobs and keep people from dying, Tank L quit coping.
sure yam pulled but tyler should have moved the mobs. he was gonna pull if yam didn't stand like 1 m closer...
@@aidanproy1484 she stood to close thats her fault. shes responsible for herself before the man is responsible for her.
The mob was patrolling and going to reach them anyways and one heal and Tyler loses aggro anyways. Tyler just sucks at spreading his aggro and doesn't understand the utility of AoEs in holding threat. He believes thunderclap is trash meanwhile he charges into every pack of mobs just heroic strike as he sees every mob walk straight past him towards his party members.
Tyler had lots of rage, could have sundered, could have used revenge, could have used stun, he had litearlly everything and just decided to spam taunt which was on CD for 5 seconds
bad tank is bad. i would very much blame the tank here. He only did two white hits before he KO'd the healer. He had enough rage to shield bash, taunt, anything besides two basic attacks against that mob. Those two basic attacks would do nothing to overcome healer threat from healing. That is shit any decent tank should have picked up on by this point in the journey. Especially if they've been tanking dungeons like this sack getting dragged through.
Yeah and not only that but he was spamming Tab trying to target the Abom for a taunt and ended up taunting the ghoul while the patchwerk mob built up 45 minutes of Thrash and triple melee'd a clothie 😂
Tonkatonk is fed! PENTAKILL!
The dude keyboard turns and clicks, ofc someone died 😂
He just shield bashes for no reason
He keyboard turns cus of league brain binds for sure 😂
That was 100% Yamato trolling again Tyler joined in for a split second and Emilya dies again
Yam buttpulled that.
Bad players are going to die. Alt tabbing to chat windows, clicking instead of keybinding, not communicating in discord, too busy moderating twitch chat.
@@positrack99 "not communicating in discord" bro lmao, what the fuck?
@@positrack99literally mute bud, he could have just tabbed, taunted 2 buttons two lmdao
@@vickinovick463 who says they are mute? Could be a stunt for all I know. Tyler1 said the same thing so that's where this is coming from. Hate on Tyler1 if you dont like that opinion.
I was fully expecting her to break her Mute to scream at him
how would she "break her mute" lmao
@@maciejkleszczynski9808She is mute through PTSD afaik
@@maciejkleszczynski9808 because it's not real
HE TAUNTED THE FUCKING GHOUL LMAOOOOOOOO!!!
Trueeee
which shouldn't be the main focus. The main focus should be tyler not tanking the biggest mob out of the pack and yamato grabbing threat on mobs that tyler doesn't have threat on.
this is great content, the clip when tyler1 wipes entire guild in mc will be legendary
Emilya is healing melee range, this entire dungeon she didn't play like she usually does for some reason, and it made her insta die when something went wrong. But ultimately still tylers fault even though none of them knew that dude would one shot he should have taunted and have mobs stick to him, i thought he improved a lot with ahmpy but now it looks like everything he learned went out the window.
He/She is a fraud and a fake. Nobody should feel sorry for her. She has 100x more viewers than she/he ever had before grouping with Tyler.
ultimately its the mans fault for a womans misplay. stop simping
It is a lot to learn if you're completely new.
@@user-kh7tg8my4n lol
He doesn't learn because he dislikes anyone that actually critiques him. The fact that Geronimoh said the dungeon was going perfectly until then was laughable. He was losing aggro on so many mobs and the only reason it wasn't a bigger disaster was because of the mage's improved blizzard slowing and kiting all the loose mobs.
It’s so wild that people defend him saying “he doesn’t know” like it’s other people’s responsibility lmao.
Yup. Emilya kept grouping with Tyler to get views even after he killed her once so when he/she/they die, they knew the risks.
@ agreed. I’d never group with someone who can take no responsibility after he gets me killed. I don’t feel bad for this Emilya either. Just funny no one thinks he needs to learn the game himself lol.
@@brandonhoward9610 bro emilya went form 100 views, to 2/3k views after dieing to tyler1, she got bunch of subs and donations for that, she is fine with this, she knows what shes doing.
Also some dudes saying it might be a guy pretending to be a mute girl, just make this even more hilarious xD
@@wolololer DUDE I believe it. Thats honestly genius. Wow players are big coomers. In vanilla I pretended to be a girl and got sooo much free gold and help with anything I needed lmao.
It took literally 30 seconds for that mob to get to them and they still messed up lmao.
Tyler needs his own achievement with title "Tyler the Emilya Slayer". You can only get the title by killing Emilya three times. 1x is still missing!
you would think a challenger player could click on a massive mob and press a single button as it slowly walks past him. After 3 or 4 healers you gotta blame the tank at some point
*walks past the tank* *one shots emilya* GIGACHAD
i mean its like 80-90% tanks fault...but MULTIPLE people failed, Healer for being that close...rogue could have vanished / distracted pat as it approached, hunter pet could taunt, multiple classes with stuns...just a not played WoW much before group and mistakes are part of it.
rogues dont need to vanish to distract,
hunters pet taunt only causes threat it would not of taken agro from healing.
nice try
Hunter pet taunt isn't exactly instant and guaranteed. It doesn't force the target to attack the pet, just increases aggro by a lot. Also it can be resisted.
Rogue also said “I’m dead” and baited emilyas power word shield
“I didn’t want to waste my taunt.” No way he said that
healer is superclose to the fight lol
woman gamer
She didn't fade, and most importantly didn't shackle
she was standing way too close is the real problem. Fade doesn't work like feign death, it doesn't fully drop aggro. If you have healer threat, and no one else has attacked it, fade will do nothing. Those Aboms should be kited by ranged mobs anyways, they have a nasty Aoe around them.
Funniest part about this clip is that he's not paying attention so much to the point that he didn't even know she died lol.
to be fair, people die way faster than you would realize in classic WoW. 1 shots from trash are not uncommon. Especially in a raid environment, you will die to stuff that you didn't even know existed if you aren't extremely careful.
@@ZoomTrue Understandable, but that mob was on the screen for at least 30 seconds before anyone even reacted to it.
@@TheYakkinator Oh yeah, but these are classic WoW players. We're not known for "fast reactions" lol. I just mean that no one expects the mob to kill you immediately when its in range because its "just a trash mob", but that's just not how classic works.
he needs something to let him know what he has aggro on cuz he just stands there thinking hes tanking
Almost like people have been using threatplates for that for 20 years now. But you know, addons bad and all that.
Tyler has improved alot the past week, but still has long to go before he can be considered a solid tank. His movement is leagues better than it was for example, and he is making decent progress every day. When things are calm and normal hes doing pretty good now, but when shit hits the fan he gets easily flustered and struggles with his abilities and keybinds. This takes his focus away from whats actually going on in the game and he makes mistakes or is too slow to react.
I dont really think there is a quick and easy fix to this problem, its something that gets fixed with experience over time. If anything he really should do something with his atrocious actionbar, keybind and macro situation, but it seems he really dosnt want to. He can simplify the warrior playstyle so much with help from macros, and a proper setup for his actionbars. This would probably help him alot by simplifying things. When others told him to get help with it previously he straight up refused. At this point its semi irresponsible to continue opreate this way lol :D I know its overwhelming to try and learn so much stuff at the same time, but I think hes getting good enough with other things now, that he should be ok to try and fix this issue also now.
but wait i thought T1 said WOW IS EASY!?!?
This is genuinely a sign for tyler1 to wake up from his ego and listen to his betters.
Yamato should not have asspulled and just use vanish instead of saying "I'm dead, I'm dead", which probably made Emilya panic.
T1 should not have taken 8 long ass seconds to taunt the damn when there are only 2 mobs on the screen.
Emilya should have moved earlier instead of priotizing healing Yamatos ass, the moment he got from 70% to 100% she moved, which was already too late. To be fair, as a healer I would not expect the tank to take 8 full seconds to take aggro on a slow moving mob, so it is somewhat understandable that she moved so late, with her priotizing healing Yamato.
Hard disagree, you're 100% a noob healer if you stand there and watch a slowed mob move into melee with you. Tyler could've played better, but Emilya put herself in that situation
@@RandomWrongDeletion Didnt i say exactly that? "Emilya should have moved earlier instead of priotizing healing Yamatos ass."
She is new to wow and a noob at healing, thats why i said it is understandable in her case. A good healer would obviously play the entire situation differently.
@@Itsatarp1337don't bother responding to ppl who can't read 👍
@ You said “As a healer I would not expect the tank to take 8 full seconds to aggro a mob” meaning you’d stand there too, so I’m not calling her a noob I’m calling you a noob as well.
@@RandomWrongDeletion “As a healer I would not expect the tank to take 8 full seconds to aggro a mob” nah that is true facts.
People ripping on tyler, emilya, yamato, etc but they're all fucking noobs at WoW. This is trial by fire. You die, learn and keep going.
that is even more impressive on how t1 got 60 even he has a party of noobs, unlike mizkif an experienced at wow is with veterans and still dies
@@lorenzjuhndomingo3393 the veterans die jsut as much on dungeons as tyler groups, thats just amazing
@@wolololer right, their ego is slowing them down
Yea this dude has to learn to use tab targeting he spend 70% of the fight trying to click models. This is like watch a draven player not use Q. Its that level of grief
At what part do we acknowledge that emilya just isn't paying attention
Maybe, but Tyler actually has zero clue what he's doing. He is playing WoW like the equivalent of an Iron player and wondering why things go wrong. If he knew how to tab target he could have saved her, but he is adamant on being a clicker.
Tyler needs threat plates. He does not realize which mobs are attacking him and which mobs are not. That's literally your job as a tank, protect your teammates!
It's not his fault though. He said threat plates look ugly. What's another priest's 200 hours of play time compared to a clean UI? I'd sacrifice the healer every time.
Threat plates looks terrible. Plater is at least decent to look at.
"The guy walked up and.. punched her in the face" lmao
tyler one is bad at wow and unbelievably carried, other new players have learned so much faster than him and he literally gets payed to play, the refusal to even put in the simplest amount of effort is mind boggling, he’s lucky that he can power smaller streamers into healing for him because they want to be able to make a living
T1 was almost nuked there lmao
He Taunted the ghoul that already had aggro and the mob just hit her. LMAO HES SO ___
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T1 the priest killer does it again
If you're healing a T1 dungeon, pre shield yourself at all times, make sure inner fire is up and have your lip keybind ready
Little bro aint making it to molten core 😂
This is exactly why Soda didn't want you to have the pants. You better start learning your role and earn them.
my man had a entire 10 seconds to do SOMETHING
Best part is that the knockback on the Big Green Guy has a threat drop. As a tank you have to be ready to taunt that guy. I also have a feeling that Emilya didnt have inner fire up as well as max defense but doesnt matter. Needed to get threat as a tank.
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So that was absolutely a tank fail... it shows that tanking is not "easy" in hardcore, if your goal is to keep everyone alive. HOWEVER, there was absolutely no reason for Emilya to be standing that close. Healing spells have some of the longest range of any spells in WoW, she needed to be at least as far back as the hunter.
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if you watch it back and focus on the big dudes movement you can see it was targeted on yamato and he drew it back to emilya, she wasn't standing in melee range like everyone said she was. Emilya survives if she doesn't heal yamato but that's hindsight. Tyler wasn't locked in and just needed to go auto him for threat didn't even need to taunt.
Tyler DID auto. He didn't get threat because the heal aggro was more. He needs to not CLICK. He clicked the ghoul instead of the patchwork. If he used tab-targeting this sort of thing wouldn't happen.
@@michaelbreaux-tj6mx she was right outside the frost trap which may as well be melee range
@@Ixrin yeah autos don't generate much threat tbh. The need for succesful autos for warriors is more to generate rage, so they can use their threat generating abilities. Turtle-paced reaction speed and refusal to use a 30 second AoE taunt cool down was the main issue here.
They’re just all bad lmao every person besides the hunter messed up in this clip
"WoW is the easiest game ever" or whatever Tyler said.
getting a pentakill on hardcore wow is crazy work
Imagine being a healer and standing where rogues do midfight
She could also save herlsef i dont know Why u blaming just tyler. She didnt have iner fire activated
Taunt is like a 10sec cool down. Use it. Don't hold it.
even tho tyler fucked up pretty bad, emilya literally just had to move instead of getting the heal off which then pulled threat
it only pulled threat cuz tyler didn’t generate any… like how does one heal generate more threat than a tank lol
Tyler's first encounter with the thrash mechanic. Basically some mobs, like the aboms, will stack extra attacks for every set duration of time they're not meleeing someone. So since the abom had ten seconds to stack thrash while slow walking to Emilya? She got deleted.
Also looks like she hadn't raised her defense skill. Which might have mattered here.
It's not his first time dealing with that mechanic and he didn't need to know about that in order to tank the abom. At all.
@@MrBowes-wb2wo Needs to know what's a threat to his team and what the severity of a situation is.
@@Unf0rget He knew the abom was a threat to his team and he tried to get it. He made a mistake and taunted the wrong mob and then panicked.
He also has dealt with thrash already and has had it explained to him.
He just messed up guys. He made a mistake. It's OK to make mistakes you know.
Pet doesn’t need stun. If it goes on the mob and uses growl it gets aggro there. But priest would likely need to be at caster range for the threat reduction.
honestly they both fucked up, i bet emilya was too busy playing peggle to pay attention
This group was so lost, Yamato seing the Patrol mob and taking from damage from it and just saying ouchie, he hurts , T1 clicking the wrong mob to taunt and looking at the mob going the speed of a tractor, emilya a little to close and getting healing aggro and the other guys focusing on the smaller mobs, another free pc for emilya, wowzers
nah i cant lie what soda said about him not caring is true i was on tyler's side before but this has happened too many times idk why tf he's allowed to tank when he just stands there not autoing for 5 seconds consistently, he's still my favorite streamer but he has to unironically drop the ego or he will wipe a raid
agreed 100%
people know what theyre getting into, you cant be mad at tyler when people are making the decision to group with a complete new player to wow
@@duckerdy5722 Yes you can if T1 doesnt give a shit to get better at the game....like yes we can LOL yall simp so hard for millionaires online...
@@duckerdy5722its an excuse he hides behind as insurance. others should not have to cater to him being bad. he should improve his gameplay for others.
@@duckerdy5722 "People know what they're getting into" isnt going to be an excuse when he wipes 40 people from a raid btw.
Emilya is a Saint for healing that Rogue. But also, If a Rogue doesn't Vanish when they've got aggro on an Abomination with stacks. Then maybe they've gotta die to learn that lesson.
Sure, Tyler misclicked on the Ghoul Taunt, but why did the pet not taunt? Why is Emilya spot healing a Rogue that should know better than to have aggro.
Nah, Hunter absolutely could have pet taunted, and priest should NOT have been so close. T1 also taunted the baby mob, instead of the fat boy. Was a collective fail.
It really pisses me off that something these people should be doing, which takes less than 10 seconds. Is costing Emilya 200+ hours of leveling/gearing a new character back up. She was literally carrying, and then everyone let her down. Sad.
Also, this isn't just Tyler's fault. The Rogue should not have had Aggro. He also could have Vanished. And the Hunter's Pet could have Taunted.
LOL so bad. Emilya handled that like a champ though.
Tyler followed the Patchwork Horror, but was targeting the Plague Ghoul, so it got healer aggro and just strolled right past him 😂
When Healer dies = tank fault
He owned up to it. Respect.
Edit: The part about getting new healer got me seriously laughing.”
this is what happens to u when tyler 1 is ur tank
i gotta say it was 50-50, Tyler for fat fingering his taunt, and Emilya for getting too close to the mob
Dang, tyler taunted the ghoul instead of the patchwork, that actually hurts.
If he learns how to tab-target this could have been avoided
I think he needs to like watch the button presses of a good tank to understand the flow. There are so many times where he has resources available even in non emergency situations to hold threat better and he just stands there AA
Yeah, warrior brain. Once you're so ahead on threat on a mob, best to swap targets.
Thrash = Mob will stack up extra attacks if it hasn't attacked anything for a while. Up to 4 stacks... hitting you 4-5 times in 1 attack.
Its literally the Paladin Reckoning ability for mobs. So here the mob didn't attack anyone for 3 auto attacks worth of time... and blapped the healer 3-4 times instantly.
"yo mdead" 💀💀💀
To be fair Yamato pulled the abom, Tyler would pull it like a few secs later anyway, because noone paid attention but not a single person was like hey carefull patrol coming..
That mob doesn't have thrash, according to Wowhead, anyway.
It's a different kind of thrash that happens when you kite a mob without it being able to auto attack something.
Emilya stayed to get a heal on yamato off who was crying he was dying (70% health btw)
This was a mistake but it was also Emylia’s misplay of being so close and no fade cast
I T1 doesn't up his tanking ability and knowledge he and most of the raid is not going to survive him tanking trash in mc
someone called it in chat lol “Back up o7”
You tried to target it, but missclicked then taunted.
The looking for healer part killed me 😂😂😂
he got one auto attack on it for 98 before it attacked priest.