How Money Worked in the Bridgerton Era
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- Bridgerton season 3 has been a ride, and we're hoping to see benophies season in Bridgerton season 4, until then, let's talk about how money worked in the "Bridgerton era".
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pen being a secret millionaire is such a slay ngl
In the books that was a real sticking point for Colin
@@dtulip1 i’ve only read the first one i really want to read the books
Loved that scene
Sticking point for what?? @@dtulip1
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Penelope paid for her sisters' ball, not Portia. Prudence and Phillipa only assumed that their Mother paid for it, and Penelope was happy to let them think that.
I was impressed that Simon refused her dowry and demanded it be put in a trust for Daphne.
Honestly, for grooms like Simon who had zero need for a dowry, it should've been common practice for their wives' dowries to be placed in an untouchable trust solely in her name.
(Unless that was already customary, in which case, I'd be pleased 😌)
@@thecavalieryouththat’s actually what marriage settlements, or proto-prenups were for. Protecting the wife’s and younger children’s financial future. But they were negotiated between the groom and the woman’s male guardian prior to marriage, so elopements meant no such protection
Even dukes and earls could go broke in those days, and be on the lookout for a rich wife. A title was not a guarantee of wealth; it was a guarantee of status in society. It did not guarantee that the holder would be good at managing money.
Exactly why at the turn of the century so many of the "Dollar princesses" who where heirs to their uber rich american families where sought after by the titled crowd. It was a win win as Americans got to buy titles and the Titled crowd got to keep their castles.
Also, class was determined mostly by birth, not money. So a broke earl was still in the upper class and higher than a rich tradesman, for example. To use Jane Austen, the Bennets are of a higher class than the Bingleys in Pride and Prejudice despite Mr Bingley’s income being more than what Longbourn’s income because they are landed gentry and the Bingleys made their money in trade. It is why Elizabeth Bennet tells Lady Catherine that she and Mr Darcy are equal (both are landed gentry despite wealth). He is only higher on the echelon because of who is grandfather was (an earl) and his other connections. Obviously a peer is of the highest class and what type of peer you were determined where your status was in the pecking order of the peerage.
From what I understand, the cost of an average wardrobe per season for a girl was about $100,000 in today's money.
Cheaper than haute couture dresses today :)
That would have been the low-end minimum. More likely, it was 500,000+
So with that in mind, wouldn’t someone like the modiste be very wealthy? And other trades and craftsmen who weren’t nobility but provided services and goods in high demand?
@@intothewater1279 I believe she would be wealthy in her own right, but would probably be unable to move in the ranks of the rich and elite since she was a 'working woman'. It was beneath the ton to 'work' at the time, I believe
@@intothewater1279 She'd be better off than the average working class, but she'd also be paying assisstants and sending things out for speciality work, and the cost of materials was very high which ate into the profit margin of someone like a tailor or modiste.
I felt quite bad for Cressida after her father took away her dowry.
I did too
Fr what a selfish man!!
Me too. I have more empathy as she was acting out of desperation not just malice. Glad that I'm a 21st century woman and can create my own wealth.
@@SacredLUVwhenever I watch these period pieces, I'm reminded of just how happy & fortunate I am to have been born in the late 90s 😂 imagine walking around as a nineteen year old, expected to marry, and have absolutely no knowledge of how sex or making babies or even how my own reproductive system works 😳 or not being able to make your own money 😢 I'd perish!
That was cruel
Great Britain essentially extracted/stole $45 trillion worth of wealth from the Indian subcontinent, turning what was once an ancient and very wealthy civilization into a state of impoverishment . That effect is still felt today in India. A lot of their wealth came from their colonialization of other parts of the world.
Then there's the Americas, the Caribbean, China, the African continent and later Southeast Asia and Australia....
Like Hong Kong? There are so many other places. They also sold opium to China in exchange for tea because they didn’t want to pay with silver. Way to addict a whole country. There’s more, but I would rather not get into it.
Not actually true. Up to date research shows a small number of Brits got rich, but in reality the colonies added nothing to the national wealth. Instead, British people paid far more to support the colonies than they ever received. Many Indians got stinking rich as a result. India remained a poor country for so long due to local corruption and incompetence, despite the billions in aid, preferential trade deals and generous visa arrangements given to them by Britain ever since. Same for Africa and other colonies.
@@lauramathews3151 Er, China was never a British colony
@@cosh5 Hong Kong was for 100 years. China wasn’t, but trading Opium for tea instead of silver was not a high point. I live in a Commonwealth country and I don’t want to see negative sides of the Brits. No one country is perfect imho.
I hope we see Cressida again. I would like to know how it turns out for her. Without a dowry, she might have to resort to those professions to earn a living. But I have a feeling her Aunt has a plan for her.
I think Shonda will find a way of bringing Cressida back, because she was such a big hit this season! I liked finding out her back story, but then realizing she still didn't mind being the villain. She's fascinating!
In the books Cressida married someone snooty, but then he drank and gambled so she ended up being very unhappy and having lots of affairs and he dies..she does pop up in a couple of the other books....what everyone seems to forget is that Pen and Colin's story is YEARS after Daphne and ANthony, altho netflix seems to be doing the story in their own order
I think homegirl should become a governess. I feel like it's the kind of profession that a daughter of a titled man wouldn't be too embarrassed about, no? I don't have any faith her aunt will want or be able to provide for her beyond the basics, the way the parents were acting.
The Bridgertons are richer than most in their class due to a few factors. It is implied that the father and previous generations did a good job investing and managing the money, so the family didn't fall into the trap many of the landed gentry did with overspending and poor investments. If you have read or watched The Buccaneers, Guy Thwarte was to inherit a lot of money from his mother, but his father, who is portrayed as a cad and irresponsible, invested it poorly, took risks, and lost it all, which is why Guy has to go make his fortune. Violet was also the only child of a wealthy family and likely had a large dowery that would have been invested for the children to inherit.
The Buccanneers and Downton Abby are also examples of the new money that flowed in from the US later in the 1800's in to the early 1900's It is too soon for that in Bridgerton but it does become a huge factor in British wealth 50 years later.
Thank you for this. I was always curious, especially after Penelope said she could afford to pay Cressida's blackmail price.
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So Francisca married an Earl and he’s worth more than the Bridgerton
It doesn't quite work like that. It all depends on how much land the families have and what their investments are. For a real life example, a previous Duke of Somerset had only a surviving daughter. She got most of the lands and money, while a distant cousin got the title, but not the main estate. Since then, the Dukes of Somerset aren't grand anymore.
It depends on the family wealth. Colin is a third child and untitled but he's richer than 3 Earls combined (if I remember correctly), and it's only from the Bridgerton money.
@@maishaahmed915I thought estate comes together with tittle? That's why the lord in Downton Abbey was having a headache for not having a son
No necessarily. Some untitled people were even more richer than titled people sometimes
The viscount could've been wealthier than duke eventually, etc... because the families squandered wealth over the years until all that is passed down is pedigree, title, and memories of better years. As the industrial age rose many gentleman deigned to engage in business with the rising middle/merchant class, and definitely not marry from/into even if a dowry would be presented or the son could keep a noblemans daughter in style and help the family.
Until rich American heiresses came along with millions that helped these noble families out of their squalor from poor habits. Winston Churchill's and Princess Diana's families come to mind.
Yes! Many new money families from the Americas eventually had daughters marry into titled families in England because they had a title but no wealth and were hoping for the large dowries to fix up family estates. Especially since many of these New Money families were not accepted by the old money families in North America (who themselves were often only a couple generations removed from the source of their wealth) and it was a way for the “new money” to gain social status (title) with their new money. It was a huge thing. The Gilded Age show has a bit of that reflected in it but it’s set in the US, if you like Bridgerton you might like it. It’s not as lavish and fantastical but it’s still a really good show.
@@fredrika27 Downton Abby! Cora's money is what saves the family and why Robert married her.
@@mdharris291 So true. There is even a discussion about the investment in the estate that Cora made is actually hers and not the family's. This was done to protect Cora when she became widowed and she did not have a son or grandson to hand the estate too. Eventually, one of her daughters has a son and Cora no longer has to worry about a nephew or distant cousin throwing her off the estate that she saved with her dowry.
Saying “slightly more” feels like understatement.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t double or triple the amount
No it was in fact just “slightly more”. When colin goes to meet with cresida and she doubles her demand, penelope said she didn’t have that much money
We can assume it was somewhere between 10 to 20 thousand. Not 20 or above
@@InA-Nutshel ahh fair enough. Still impressive
19.000 is not slightly more 😂@@InA-Nutshel
Yay more Bridgerton! My hyperfixation lives on!!
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As an added detail, the timeline in the book is a lot longer (somewhere around 10 years that she’s been writing). So while Pen still made a HUGE sum it took her longer than 2 and a bit seasons in the novel which maybe makes it a little more “realistic.” It doesn’t diminish that it’s still a shocking and impressive sum though! I just thought as a book reader it was interesting to me they kept the earnings the same (actually they had her earn a bit more in the show even, I think it was just under 9k in the novel) but had her earn that in waaayy shorter of a time🙂 people did love to read their Whistledown!
It is no different today. The King gave his son the properties he had as a prince. The Dutchie is now providing the Prince and his family a bloody good income!!
*Duchy
Divorce? Divorce only (very rarely) occurred by an act of Parliament, and always favored the man.
They made their money owning lots of properties. That um... seems like today.
So in U.S. dollars that’s $1,417,136 😭
Damn
Damn- a MILLION??
Great clip! Very educational on that period.
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Thank you for this video. Hope you can make other videos like explaining the rankings of people in society. It would also be interesting to explain about the household staff, their roles, etc.
There is one other thing about British culture and the aristocracy.
Their houses were not just their homes; they functioned as country Bed and Breakfast hotels. They were expected to host people on their estate. Travelling preachers, business men, other nobility, doctors, etc. The noble houses were hotels. Hence why so many staff were required. It takes staff to maintain a hotel; to launder, cook, etc.
You can see the legacy of this when you read an Agatha Christie murder novel, or travel the countryside in England nowawayds. I travelled to England (from Australia) back in 2022, and the same attitude to the country estate homes still exists. I stayed in one for a couple of days. Most of them are still working bed and breakfast hotels. We were chatting with other guests there. For some, they literally go to a country estate house to get away from the city. Distance also works differently in the UK. One gentleman was staying overnight in the house, because he had driven two hours that day, and needed a rest, as he still had a further 2 hours to travel the next day (In Australia, I have travelled 6 to 12 hours a day in a car trip!). But for them, dividing such drives up into an overnight stay made perfect sense.
The attitude to service was very different between the two countries. They had a LOT more service staff in England. There was also a staff member at EVERY point in our train trip. There was a staff member who directed us to where the train tickets were sold. There was a ticket salesperson. They then directed us to the staff member who helped people get down the stairs (they either helped them find the elevator, or helped carry suitcases). Then there was another staff member who helped you find your platform. Then on the platform, another staff member helped you find your train, and a different staff member helped you get on board the train, then inside the train there was someone else to help you find your assigned seat. We saw 10 different service personnel for the one train trip, in 30 minutes. In Australia, you have one ticket person, and one attendant at the gates; that's it. It was similar in all the accommodation; there was a separate staff member who insisted on helping you get your suitcases upstairs, and a different girl at the front desk, and a different girl doing the laundering. When you sat in the lounge, someone brought in the platter of snacks and cups of tea. At no point did we have the opportunity to feel lost or confused. So I think shows like Bridgerton, with lots of servants - it's not just about wealth; it's about a cultural expectation that is unique to Britain, and still exists even in the modern world.
In comparison, in Australia, we very much adopt an attitude of "I'm tough, and I can handle it myself". We foster a bit more independence. My mum and I were horrified at the idea of letting an elderly man lug our suitcases upstairs. We insisted on doing it ourselves. They understood it was an Aussie thing, and smiled and let us do it. But for them, it would be completely normal for ordinary, middle class guests to leave their suitcases in the foyer, and for a staff member to take it up while the guests relaxed in the lounge.
Colin also became a published author in the end so he would have had his own income after that.
ALL leading characters we see in Bridgeton are aristocrats. It is generational wealth. They are already old money at that time. What this video doesn't explain well is the British class system and the aristocracy.
The video does nor elaborate but hints people basically owed what they had to older generations, so it was very rare to switch socio-economic classes, the industrialization era created some opportunities for mobility between classes but before that you were pretty much stuck with what you had at birth. The mobility of wealth was predominantly due to inheritance.the nobility and gentry had vast amounts of land they rented to agricultural producers and received huge amounts of rental income.
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30 £ wasnt to live comfortably, but to live. A typical English farmer earned between 15 and 50 £. In Pride and prejudice girls have 1000£ for dowry. Invested it would give a girl around 50 £ a year. It is enough to survival, but not to live as a single woman. (Rent, food, clothing, a maid couse she doesnt know how to do anything).
Great video. I was actually wondering how much Pen's fortune would've translated in today's terms.
Yes, significant wealth is rarely made by working. It is usually made by controlling assets and other people's labor. But, be careful buying real estate, and don't think it will necessarily make you money.
your research is better than the books lol, in the books simon doesn't accept a dowry. Great video! ❤
He does not in the show. Anthony invested it for her
Remember that Jane Austen wrote about country people who lived pretty well but weren’t vaguely close to Bridgerton status. Her heroines had incredibly lucky marriages; these are Cinderella stories. Irl those girls were bumpkins who’d be happy to marry the rector.
Okay first of all, Cressida Cowper isn't broke, her father just took her dowry off the table because she wasn't listening, since he's using money as way to control them completely. I doubt the father would make it public since that would mean his daughter will certainly never find a husband. Also it's understandable as to why he would do this, his daughter is hanging around a person that was outed as someone that seeks the company of political radicals and someone that is vocal about not wanting to marry, so if your daughter starts to hang out with a girl like that, yah, I see why he would try to keep her away from Eloise, also doesn't help that CC mother disliked the Bridgerton, mainly Violet so was most likely speaking maliciously about them to the father.
Also if having a large dowry was a certain for a score of suitors coming to wait on you, you'd think Cressida who is said to have a large dowry in season 2 would have more men flocked around her. But she doesn't, so that means having a sizable dowry as a woman wasn't the only thing eligible men were looking for.
This was very informative! Thank you!
It’s still wild to me that Colin could just get $1 million from his family with like no questions asked.
A small loan of a million dollars
Very informative!
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You're so good at analysing content!
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I thought Cressida claimed to be LW as a last resort of getting out of that marriage with that old guy?
Thanks for making this because I have always wondered how did the leisure class able to stay in leisure while they hardly work in life. I know Rich people have mutiple streams of income such as passive income but now I know more thanks to your video 🥰
Why didn’t Penelope insist on paying off Cressida with her own money? Yes, she may not have had the whole sum. But Colin was trying to get Benedict to lend him the money somehow. She could give her share and asked Colin for the rest.
Kinda funny when you think about it: the Bridgertons are basically the same as modern day landlords 😂
Also, I'll never forget when an English teacher told me that the amiable Mr Bingley (Pride & Prejudice) likely got all his money from the slave trade 😶
Poor Cressida. Her father is a monster.
The dowry would go to the husband. The wife gave everything to the husband.
The wife was the property of her husband in effect.
Penelope a sugar mama 😂
They had prenups ....I like it, smart.
Well explained 😊
the only broidgerton era that ever existed is maybe the one we live in now.
this question was burning in my head thank you!!
My whole life I thought a dowry was lobola, but it's the anti-lobola. Nega-lobola. Lobola's evil twin.
Whistledown was a genius
Sugar mama😂😂😂😂
If the featheringtons had land as part of high society, why couldnt they cover their debts or atleast yeild some funds from it for this season. Why did they only seem to have money from the scam.
in the book she only made around 5000 pounds, i think the show made it 10 thousand to make it more 'modern'
I did feel a bit bad for Cressida. Screwed up parenting aside. Wasn't she already a widow at this point in the books? Why make her utterly alone like this?
so literally the same concept today lol
back then, cash for kids and women was called 'pin money' not 'pocket money'.
Okay you just spoiled me! Between Pen and Collin
thank you
It's important to note that money has lost its value. That 10 000 pounds was worth more in 1815 than today. In today's value, they could never afford that luxurious lifestyle on that amount.
obviously lol
what feels weird in the bridgerton series is that the bridgerton house is the cheapest most humbe of the houses being made of brick instead of the limestone houses others have
Can you explain how their son is the Fetherington heir. But, the Fetherington’s are broke, how do s the heir to inherit nothing? Confused.
From my understanding the home is his and its property. And like the video said they get their money through property and Portia did steal the money that she has so I guess the new heir to Featherington gets that money and wealth. I maybe wrong but that is what I got out of it. And he is titled so that should help
Well for one, he's heir to the the Featherington TITLE. Regardless of wealth, he receives the noble title, Lord Featherington, just like many modern nobles and royals today inherit their title but lack the great wealth that use to make it mean something.
However, in Polin's baby's case he will inherit great wealth: the stolen money Portia's been using and any money Penelope (Whistledown) or Colin (his book) accumulate in their writing endeavors
Excellent thread
Imagine being able to live with 30 pounds a year
A real sugar momma…
Wasn’t the Bridgerton Dad a Viscount
There is no such thing as the Bridgerton era. The whole show is pure fantasy. It's like saying The Lord of the Rings is a portrait of rural Britain before and during WWII.
Oh
They made their money in the transatlantic white slavery trade.
she probably has at least 15k pounds
So did someone pay Cressida?
Nope
Pen revealed herself in order to do everything right and so her mom have the reasons as to where they get their generated wealth....also to be cease fire with the Queen...and Colin😅
pen doesnt have a son
She does💖
Wow! £30!
Cressida's story is so sad because not having this money means she would have to do what we do daily. Oh boo hoo
They owned slaves,period
Back in the days, the wealthy did not need to work, what you being taught at school now ? :D
slavery...
England doesn't have Barons. Bridgerton's elastic sense of reality is practically sci-fi.
What ? I saw that it's there. The lowest rank.
Lord Byron is a Baron. Baron Byron is the title line. The title still exists.
Harris ad just popped up so I stopped watching and gave it a thumbs down. You really need to make sure that only ads you support are played on your channel.
Landed gentry depend on their land and holdings. In the first season, Simon had to get down to brass tacks when he moved to his ancestral estate. He was a duke. Daphne was not well trained to be a wife. I’m guessing they were supposed to teach their daughters to manage money and their future home. Dowry is usually saved for future children if the man is rich enough. Men have to write up settlements before they married. Love was such a small part of marriages back then. 10,000 is what Darcy made per year. The writers need a dose of reality. Many titled people run through their money like water, and end up needing to marry for money. So this is nonsense. Penelope wouldn’t have that much money at hand just from a gossip rag as much as we want to believe she did.WAKE UP! Do some research. I know it’s a total fabrication and fantasy. It started out well, but kind of started going downhill just cutting from Colin and Penelope’s storyline. It got choppy as F.
Not sure I want to see more.
The queen is black. You expected ultra realism?
Calm down! It's fiction !
@@lilacpanther yeah, no sh*t, but don’t delude people, ya know. Sure, bet you could make millions writing rags too.
back in the day, i would have been loaded!!! i’m on the right path! i’m renting properties that i own, took over the family business, spend wisely, live humbly, i’m finna be richer than all my haters who counted me out yet been in the game for years
did this without a father & can’t no man take the credit!!! i’ve been telling ppl since day one, i was only ever meant to be wealthy! the journey was just some bs just for show & i hated every step of it! but the money now makes up for it!
The way Bridgerton casually ignores slavery is quite astonishing. There was no way they could have kept up those lavish lifestyles *without* slavery. This video says slavery was banned in 1807, but what was banned was the transatlantic slave trade. People who were already enslaved stayed enslaved for another 30 years. Many aristocrats continued to profit from slavery. Sugar plantations are what funded the industrial revolution, which then grew into what we know as capitalism today and is how the wealthy classes grew in the 18th and 19th centuries. To pretend slavery didn't exist and to have people of colour playing the roles of enslavers is whitewashing of the worst, most ignorant kind.
Yes true but Bridgerton is loosely inspired by the English regency era not an accurate depiction. Depicting slavery wouldn’t fit the lush, evocative nature of the story and in fact, would take away from its fantasy romance element. Think of Bridgerton like a romance / otome mobile game, not like an epic historical drama.
Sanditon is more in line with the traditional historical drama framework and does a decent job dealing with the realities of the regency era.
see! my dilemma is, not wanting to marry for money, but also, the man who loves me unconditionally & that i feel the same about can not be broke! so trying to find an amazing guy, who’s faithful, honest, respectful, handsome & loaded, is like a needle in a hay sack! but i get, what i want!!!
as much as people say “it’s all about the journey” i’m here to tell you, i will NEVER appreciate the journey & i enjoyed NONE of it… let us move on to the stacks now! where I AM meant to be!