How did they miss the Texans RT holding on the Schultz TD and while we're at it how did they miss the push off by Schultz on the same play? They are human and have a lot to process very quickly, that's how.
@@joekingsley771 There are other tackles who use the same move every play like one of the most celebrated lineman in the league Lane Johnson. It's usually a legal move, look up the rules. That move is how he got paid so much, but he's on the chiefs now, so everyone cares. They let it go when he was a Jag for some reason. The refs love the Chiefs so much, though, lol.
@@joekingsley771 Yeah, this is one of the most casual takes I see most often. If all pro first ballot hall of famer Lane Johnson can get away with it for his whole career and actually be the reason why other RT's starting mimicking this exact move he basically pioneered... then I have no problem with Taylor also doing it.
@@jamesedwards6129 1:29 "The rule is you can't have significant contact to the head or neck area." The arm going forward (which it was), the incomplete pass, and even your feelings don't factor into this. It was a clear cut RTP penalty so it nullifies anything else that happened on the play.
@ I have no feelings about the play but it was still a fumble, Mahomes arm didn’t go forward until the ball was loose & if you want to add a penalty you do so after the Texans recovered the ball and you walk off 15 yards backwards Texans ball
@@BeepBeep1981 you're speaking rules and logic to someone who clearly lacks the capacity to understand either. If they were protecting Mahomes as much as the simps claim they do there's no way they miss that call, but they miss them frequently against Mahomes just like everyone else.
@@craigcampbell8560 I know that. It's just wild how easy it is for these content creators to manipulate and brainwash these kind of people. Mahomes could get a RTP call every game for the next 10 games and he would FINALLY catch up to Josh Allen who is the all time leader with 39, next to Brady's 35. Mahomes has played in more games than Allen. 👀
It's amazing that anyone can watch this and not think that its an incomplete pass. His arm is clearly starting to go forward before he loses the ball. I guess hatred really does make you blind.
1:29 "The rule is you can't have significant contact to the head or neck area." - Mmmmkay, I think we're all done here then. Nothing else that happened on this play really even matters. 🤣
@@jessemontgomery8987 Show examples then and I'll feel sorry for you... Until then, I'll just assume it didn't happen and you are speaking in generalizations because you have an anti-Mahomes bias or something. Glad they called it, because is was THE CORRECT CALL. That's what we are all crying about all the time right? Just get the call right? Isn't that what we want? Nobody gets that call more than Josh Allen... He has 39 RTP in his career, most of all time... More than Brady, Manning, etc - you name a QB, he has more, lol... Allen somehow leads the NFL all time in 7 years. Mahomes has 28, now 29 after today... and Mahomes has played in more games. They could give Mahomes a RTP call for the next 10 games and he would FINALLY catch up to Josh Allen. 🤣
@BeepBeep1981 so I'm not going to read all that but week 8 vikings vs rams for example. Dude contacts the head area of sam darnold and it goes down as a safety at the end of the game
@BeepBeep1981 so you going to ignore my example? Yeah that tracks. I mean just git good scrub am I right. So what if someone hit you in your head while playing qb. Or tried to break your neck
You clearly don't watch many Chiefs games or you'd know that Taylor is one of the most penalized tackles in the league. The refs missed that one, no question, but they call plenty of holding and false starts on him.
What's really wild is how you kids are blind in any other NFL game, but you are experts in Chiefs games and you never miss a penalty if it goes against the Chiefs.
@@tracyelsinger1088if that were the case, then the refs would call false start on him at least 30 times a game on pass plays. He gets out of his stance early before the ball is snapped 97% of the time, the same would be true with the Eagles right tackle Lane Johnson.
Can we do one on the Texans first TD where Karlafitis was clearly held... and then Shultz pushed off his DB to clear space to catch his TD? Where is that video breakdown? Do we only do these for the Chiefs? Will people not click on that one if it doesn't involve the Chiefs being on offense?
You already know, and on the Xavier touchdown catch that was out of bounds the db literally is gripping his Jersey with one hand and tries to defend with the other but since it was the Texans nobody cares
Incomplete pass? Debatable, but by the letter of the rule - sure. Roughing the Passer? More like touching the passer IMO, but I’m slightly biased. I come from the camp the defense is constantly playing with their hands tied behind their backs and offenses get all of the advantages. If we are all going to strictly follow the rules then there should have been a holding call on Taylor and the penalties should have offset.
And if we're going to go "strictly by the rules", there should have been a holding flag thrown on the lineman going up against Karlaftis, while at the same time there should have been an OPI on Shultz on the Texans second TD play. It was incomplete, and the Texans defender turned Mahomes' head with the contact. That's roughing.
@@m.d.d.3051 As someone that hates the Chiefs and wants to see them fail, there's holding in the trenches on every single play in the NFL. Retroactively calling a hold in the trenches is silly.
I firmly believe the Chiefs are FAR luckier than they are good but I thought that pass was incomplete. The roughing the passer call was bogus but his arm was definitely coming forward.
An NFL ref makes between 200,000 and 250,000 per year on average. Based on the 2024 NFL roster of officials, there are 122 officials currently in the NFL. There are 32 teams in the NFL, and if we conservatively estimate an average of 20 coaches per team (including head coach and assistants), that would amount to approximately 640 to 800 coaches/assistants league-wide. The average salary for an NFL head coach in 2024 is approximately $7 million per year. There are thousands of team staff members, NFL operations team members, media, etc. in the NFL. So thousands of people would have to be compliant to any fixed game... and of course, never tell. Refs making between 200,000 and 250,000 per year on average would all have to be in on the take. All would have to risk their career, dignity, and the chance of never being trusted again for one fixed game. Extremely competitive cocky athletes and coaches making millions would have risked it all for it to be rigged. The average income for a single person in the United States is around $56,065. These armchair geniuses think people making 250,000 (refs) to 60 million (players) per year and coaches making 7 million per year are willing to risk it all. to make their team... lose. Do refs make bad calls and miss calls? yes, every week and most likely every game there is a missed penalty or a flag thrown when it shouldn't have been. Does this mean that thousands of people are conspiring behind YOUR back to make YOUR team lose? No, but the concept does make me laugh.
@@KorithStoneheart Right... your team sucks or a human makes a mistake and Your team loses... It's rigged, it's rigged... Mommy, mommy, mommy I want my trophy too. Losers always cry like you are doing... always.
@@chuckleezodiac24 Right... your team sucks or a human makes a mistake and Your team loses... It's rigged, it's rigged... Mommy, mommy, mommy I want my trophy too. Losers always cry like you are doing... always.
He got his ass shellacked last week & had no roughing penalties. It’s kinda funny, if you look at roughing penalties called on QBs, mahomes isn’t even in the top 15-20 QBs to get roughing calks. Now, Josh Allen is in the top 5, so y’all really need to rethink this ‘Mahomes gets all the roughing calls’ narrative.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 ... where does he rank it total QB hits when compared to all QBs? Context matters and people use partial stats all the time to make arguments
@@JoshuaHopkins-j9o True, but if you aren't in top 15-20 even if you get hit significantly less I don't think percentage would be enough to change that. He also has the most TDs and Interceptions called back from penalties which is also interesting.
Good call, incomplete. Wouldn't have counted anyway because they put a forearm to his helmet. 15 baby, I did see two bad defensive holds called against texans. Also refs missed a push off on Schultz for a td on mcduffie
@randytabor754 Yeah I'll give you that one. Ok so 3 bad calls but strouds 2 ints lost them this game. Schultz also dropped a huge 3rd and 8. I still say this one was incomplete because Pat pushes the ball forward.
What was the logic behind giving the Chiefs an early week 6 bye and a late season stretch of 3 games in 10 days if the league is rigging it all to gift them a SB?
I was thinking the same thing Karlaftis was obviously held and no call whatsoever but no one wants to talk about when the refs mess up in the other teams favor
you mean youre sick of Mahomes winning? Bc he’s rarely favored. Also, if you have any knowledge of football, you would understand that if the quarterback has control of the ball when the arm is moving forward but they lose control after, its an incomplete pass.
@@KnoTalent yeah I saw that but Joe Burrow has a higher rate of interceptions called back than Mahomes AND Mahomes is much higher in TDs called back 😅
I think anything could be called here. Id argue the arm was forward before it was lost. He has a decent amount of control as he started the movement. You could argue either way 😅
End of the day these chief haters are gonna hate and whine and moan. Meanwhile my son is desperately needing a nap but is singing "Red Kingdom" over and over. I am on the west coast so yes it is nap time.
Chiefs super bowls are paper thin because of the help they get. Honestly worse than the Patriots ever got. Refs carry them down the field when it matters most, enjoy your fake trophies 😂.
The fact that anyone could look at the play and call it a fumble just solidifies the the enormous amount of coping you guys have to do just to stomach that your teams can’t beat the Chiefs. Most obvious incompletion ever, and anytime you knock a QB upside the head that’s going to be called. Next, let’s talk about the hold and push off that gave Texans a TD. Oh wait we won’t talk about it because you won’t get the extra views from the crybaby community.
I think the roughing the passer call was weak but let's be real about it, he still had it in this hand, the ball didn't change its direction until there was forward movement. @@DreamFearless
@@DreamFearlessa shot to the head is a shot to the head. When it is on a QB it is roughing the passer. That particular hit wasn't overly aggressive, but I've seen lesser hits be called RTP. That IS a roughing call, plain and simple.
Mahomes always get protected even though he not the best QB this year. I agree, incomplete pass. The flag on contact to his face, looked incidental to me and I guarantee you there were hits to other QB's heads by the KC defense that were never called. It really is time for the officiating crews to be held to a higher standard. Missed calls, bad calls, outright favoritism has no place in the game. There are too few in a season to have a sigle blown call decide the game, and yet they still do. Time for the officials to be on the line as much as the bills. Release them on waivers when they blow it. Maybe they can go to Hockey?
I agree with you. The defender was trying to swat the ball, not really going for the head. Incidental, not significant. I hate the forward motion rule. I like the old rule (interpretation) of the ball is not a pass until it passes the head.
Chiefs fan since I was a boy. Born in Wichita Ks. In 59. I watched them play the first Superbowl. Mostly been a hope of just having a winning Season all those years. But the last ten have made up for that. I used to have to wait on highlight reels to see their games. It sure has been nice to watch as the rest of the NFLfans have turned against them. That is what you call a winner. And everyone else who pulls for another team. Hates a consistent winner. So I will continue to enjoy this while it lasts. Because nothing last forever.
1. Flags are usually thrown directly at the spot of the foul. This was "THROWN IN THE AIR" just to throw a flag. 2. Other angles show mahomes elbow getting hit, so it should not have been overturned. 3. "1000 out of 1000 times" except when joe burrow gets it straight to the face, and they just fine the player a week later.
I'm a Texans fan and I actually agree with you on this particular play. It was a shame and so close. But time after time when our D had the Chiefs stopped, the refs threw a flag for pretty borderline fouls. It was pretty obvious in the first half. It probably cost us 6 -10 points and would have led to a much closer game at the half. Chiefs still have class for how they gave Tank the VIP treatment when he got injured! Thank you, KC medical team!
You are spot on...This isn't a fumble. 1 his arm is going Fwrd so it's incomplete pass. 2 even if they'd have said it was a fumble the hand of a Defense player hits the QB in the face mask so it's roughing the passer due to NFLs rules. This would be called if it was lamar Jackson, Josh allen, Joe Burrow etc. And would've wiped out the penalty. Any hate from fans saying these aren't penalties simply don't know the rules and are only going off the false national sports narative that chiefs get all the calls In their favour to win. It's false too you can look it up. Their not even top 10 in penalties or yards from penalties and not top 5 in penalties in 4th qtr in one score games.
It was a fumble, the Texans suppose to have the 🏈 back, but the referes cheated and call a penalty on the Texans, and let the Chief offense stay on the firld, Cheating for Kansas City Chefs, That's the truth, Than the Texans would have won the game
@@anthonyware4033how so? Now I know “just officiating “ ain’t happening ever but it’s wishful thinking on the op part. What I don’t understand is why you called it the dumbest thing you’ve ever read. You must not read much.
@LowercaseKev because all.of these brain dead snowflakes think the refs are rigging the games. It is dumbest thing people say. They cried when Brady was playing too and they cried about manning. This is an old take that it completely ignorant
@anthonyware4033 They have no proper factual evidence to back their arguments, these same 'snowflakes' you speak about all received participation trophies growing up thinking they're on the same level as the winners. They're mainly upset because one particular team has been dominating these last few years and their team hasn't.
This is the level of retardation we are dealing with. It's casual fans such as yourself that have helped propagate this Chiefs/Refs narrative because you don't even know what you are looking at the majority of the time when a call or non-call happens.
@ well In any other real sport if a penalty occurs regardless of intent that why football has the rigged label because bullshit like that where if it was any other QB they call “grounding” but mahomes gets the bail out every game
@@Etronoxz This doesn't really matter because it doesn't apply in this specific scenario but I'll point it out anyways... Literally CAN'T be intentional grounding the moment the ball is altered in any way, shape, or form coming out of the QBs arm. It's easy understand why: because the original trajectory of where the ball is intended to go has been altered. Seems pretty simple to understand right? Why do you not know this? Take some accountability and learn the NFL rules if you are going to go online and cry about something you know nothing about. It's embarrassing.
It was a fumble the ball came out of his hand. And the arm movement pushed the ball forward. Me personal, am tired of the NFL helping Kansas City and MaHomes.
I thought the flag was on KC #74 for holding, then it's a fumble / TD, then they got a call from FanDuel and reversed the call, ignored the hold, wiped out the TD and gave KC the ball....
Well then it should been intentionally grounding he was in the pocket and loss of down. The chefs get all calls had another one a sack but somehow got a first down like on the broncos. That's when I stopped watching this game
I agree with you, they are ruining the game, these kick off changes the on side kick off rule change JFS !!!!!! They take 10mins on a challenge or a review so they can throw in about 10 commercials and now this streaming SHIT they should be paying use to watch this shit show they call football
The defender interupted the play has his arm went backward which caused him to loose control of the ball before his arm went foward which in this case is clearly a fumble
Chiefs derangement syndrome. Both calls clearly correct. Obvious too. Yall don’t know ball and I’m a raiders fan. Never seen people so blinded by rage they can’t see straight. If social media was more prominent during the patriots dynasty and some of the calls and luck they had - people would have lost their marbles online.
they replayed the ref throwing the flag if u review the game. and he actually didnt throw it up in the air. he kinda just dished it out, and it was as the hit took place.
Doesn't matter whether it was called a fumble or incomplete pass...flag was thrown for roughing the passer so even if they called fumble with TD for Houston it would have been nullified by penalty on Houston.
The incomplete pass was fine but the roughing penalty was questionable. The defender just had is arm up tying to block the pass . This is why I don't watch football as much as I used to .
1:38 While i mostly agree with you on this point, they arent consistent enough yet still. They are still literally fining players for this when it isnt called on the field, like the zedarious smith hit on jordan love a week or two ago (yes im a packers fan but my point still stands, i also wouldnt have known about it otherwise). I would rather they just lessen their standards a bit so the ones like the mahomes hit in this video arent called but we can only ask for so much.
Okay regardless of any other game, this officiating crew was lead by that Cheffers guy, trust me he doesn't give the Chiefs special treatment lol. But actually he missed a few calls on both teams, like that first Texans touchdown where McDuffie basically got flung aside, but no OPI call
It's a fumble. Looking at it, his elbow was hit while in the position of throwing, this cause the ball to be knocked out of his hand. Look at how the ball rotates like a field kick it wouldn't look like if it was a pass.
1:10 "He has possession now" The ball is sideways. His wrist is paralell with the goal line. I guess if he was throwing it directly to the side line u could call that a pass..... laaaame
Some people say mediocre refs and too many questionable rules are hurting the game, sometimes I agree. I certainly saw more than enough illegal formations flagged during much of the season. Not to mention, the commentators are flapping their jaws way too much.
A pretty good rule of thumb, when it comes to fumbles.. if the ball propels out of the quarterback's hand in the typical trajectory of.. let's say, a forward pass.. THEN it's not a fumble. Especially if you SEE WITH YOUR EYES, that he actually threw the ball, even without having all of his fingers on the laces. 🙈🤦
Saying a company worth billions of dollars would not rig games is a bold statement Cottin
How did they miss the holding on 74. Holy hell 🤣🤣
Everyone gonna ignore #74 hugging the texans defender from behind right in the middle of the play
and you gonna ignore the elbow to Mahomes face too, right?
There's holding on every play, of every game..
Things get missed..get over it...i might add, u really want a flag on every play of every game?
So that would create off-setting penalties, maybe...big deal. It was halfway through the 2nd qtr. Get over it.
Holding is holding. I guess unless it is some crazy Taylor swift dance move.
It happens this game was called even. Stop reaching
while i can agree the chiefs are having a miracle season getting wins they should not have gotten. this play is 100% incomplete pass
😂😂😂😂
@@uberempty it's going to hurt more when they expire in the playoffs 😭
@@uberempty we're going to steal the super bowl like the Grinch 😀 Lamar is going to have that Michael Jordan effect this year 😁
@@thanumbertenmeet you back here in a few weeks
@thanumberten I think Roger wants a 3-peat. After that KC will be done.
Correct call on both, but how did they miss Taylor #74 full-on tackling the defensive lineman?
At least he didn't false start like he does about 30 times a game
How did they miss the Texans RT holding on the Schultz TD and while we're at it how did they miss the push off by Schultz on the same play? They are human and have a lot to process very quickly, that's how.
@@joekingsley771 There are other tackles who use the same move every play like one of the most celebrated lineman in the league Lane Johnson. It's usually a legal move, look up the rules. That move is how he got paid so much, but he's on the chiefs now, so everyone cares. They let it go when he was a Jag for some reason. The refs love the Chiefs so much, though, lol.
@@joekingsley771 Yeah, this is one of the most casual takes I see most often. If all pro first ballot hall of famer Lane Johnson can get away with it for his whole career and actually be the reason why other RT's starting mimicking this exact move he basically pioneered... then I have no problem with Taylor also doing it.
@@stormageddon248this is insane loool
This is a lot less ambiguous that the the actual fumble in the tuck rule game
Arm was going forward. That's almost always called an incomplete pass because of the way the NFL rules are written.
Nah, his arm went forward after he lost the ball, I get it tho Mahomes is protected, every business protects their star
@@jamesedwards6129 1:29 "The rule is you can't have significant contact to the head or neck area." The arm going forward (which it was), the incomplete pass, and even your feelings don't factor into this. It was a clear cut RTP penalty so it nullifies anything else that happened on the play.
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I have no feelings about the play but it was still a fumble, Mahomes arm didn’t go forward until the ball was loose & if you want to add a penalty you do so after the Texans recovered the ball and you walk off 15 yards backwards Texans ball
@@BeepBeep1981 you're speaking rules and logic to someone who clearly lacks the capacity to understand either. If they were protecting Mahomes as much as the simps claim they do there's no way they miss that call, but they miss them frequently against Mahomes just like everyone else.
@@craigcampbell8560 I know that. It's just wild how easy it is for these content creators to manipulate and brainwash these kind of people.
Mahomes could get a RTP call every game for the next 10 games and he would FINALLY catch up to Josh Allen who is the all time leader with 39, next to Brady's 35. Mahomes has played in more games than Allen. 👀
It's amazing that anyone can watch this and not think that its an incomplete pass. His arm is clearly starting to go forward before he loses the ball. I guess hatred really does make you blind.
People hate dynasties, especially when they're practically back-to-back. Fans around the league loved the Chiefs in 2018 and 2019.
1:29 "The rule is you can't have significant contact to the head or neck area." - Mmmmkay, I think we're all done here then. Nothing else that happened on this play really even matters. 🤣
Wait you can't hit in that area? But in my teams games it's too bad just get good scrub when that happens
@@jessemontgomery8987 Show examples then and I'll feel sorry for you... Until then, I'll just assume it didn't happen and you are speaking in generalizations because you have an anti-Mahomes bias or something. Glad they called it, because is was THE CORRECT CALL. That's what we are all crying about all the time right? Just get the call right? Isn't that what we want?
Nobody gets that call more than Josh Allen... He has 39 RTP in his career, most of all time... More than Brady, Manning, etc - you name a QB, he has more, lol... Allen somehow leads the NFL all time in 7 years.
Mahomes has 28, now 29 after today... and Mahomes has played in more games. They could give Mahomes a RTP call for the next 10 games and he would FINALLY catch up to Josh Allen. 🤣
@BeepBeep1981 so I'm not going to read all that but week 8 vikings vs rams for example. Dude contacts the head area of sam darnold and it goes down as a safety at the end of the game
@@jessemontgomery8987 You should read it. It would be good for you to accept reality.
@BeepBeep1981 so you going to ignore my example? Yeah that tracks. I mean just git good scrub am I right. So what if someone hit you in your head while playing qb. Or tried to break your neck
Amazing the ref could see that past Taylor's holding, but i forgot holding or false start not allowed to be called on the chiefs!
Amazing you think Carl Cheffers would do anything whatsoever to help the Chiefs.
You clearly don't watch many Chiefs games or you'd know that Taylor is one of the most penalized tackles in the league. The refs missed that one, no question, but they call plenty of holding and false starts on him.
What's really wild is how you kids are blind in any other NFL game, but you are experts in Chiefs games and you never miss a penalty if it goes against the Chiefs.
@@tracyelsinger1088if that were the case, then the refs would call false start on him at least 30 times a game on pass plays. He gets out of his stance early before the ball is snapped 97% of the time, the same would be true with the Eagles right tackle Lane Johnson.
Can we do one on the Texans first TD where Karlafitis was clearly held... and then Shultz pushed off his DB to clear space to catch his TD? Where is that video breakdown? Do we only do these for the Chiefs? Will people not click on that one if it doesn't involve the Chiefs being on offense?
You already know, and on the Xavier touchdown catch that was out of bounds the db literally is gripping his Jersey with one hand and tries to defend with the other but since it was the Texans nobody cares
Now you know it only counts if it benefits the Chiefs!
But that affects my cherry picked anti chiefs narrative!!!
Seems to benefit the Chiefs every week just like the Patriots @@songsayswhat
No.
Incomplete pass? Debatable, but by the letter of the rule - sure.
Roughing the Passer? More like touching the passer IMO, but I’m slightly biased. I come from the camp the defense is constantly playing with their hands tied behind their backs and offenses get all of the advantages.
If we are all going to strictly follow the rules then there should have been a holding call on Taylor and the penalties should have offset.
And if we're going to go "strictly by the rules", there should have been a holding flag thrown on the lineman going up against Karlaftis, while at the same time there should have been an OPI on Shultz on the Texans second TD play. It was incomplete, and the Texans defender turned Mahomes' head with the contact. That's roughing.
@@m.d.d.3051 As someone that hates the Chiefs and wants to see them fail, there's holding in the trenches on every single play in the NFL. Retroactively calling a hold in the trenches is silly.
@andrewb378 lol. Okay. Glad you admit you're just a hater.
I firmly believe the Chiefs are FAR luckier than they are good but I thought that pass was incomplete. The roughing the passer call was bogus but his arm was definitely coming forward.
Luckier for that many years? 😂
I've seen more obvious throws get called fumbles.
I've also seen obvious fumbles get called passes.
(Nothing against you)
Huh, it’s almost as if the refs are humans and have to make judgments in mere seconds
Geez, what a shocker. The call goes the Chiefs way. I'm SOOO surprised. SMH.
just like when the texans got handed there first touchdown because of the refs...
Awww...need some cheese w/ that whine Bengals fan?
An NFL ref makes between 200,000 and 250,000 per year on average. Based on the 2024 NFL roster of officials, there are 122 officials currently in the NFL. There are 32 teams in the NFL, and if we conservatively estimate an average of 20 coaches per team (including head coach and assistants), that would amount to approximately 640 to 800 coaches/assistants league-wide. The average salary for an NFL head coach in 2024 is approximately $7 million per year. There are thousands of team staff members, NFL operations team members, media, etc. in the NFL.
So thousands of people would have to be compliant to any fixed game... and of course, never tell. Refs making between 200,000 and 250,000 per year on average would all have to be in on the take. All would have to risk their career, dignity, and the chance of never being trusted again for one fixed game. Extremely competitive cocky athletes and coaches making millions would have risked it all for it to be rigged.
The average income for a single person in the United States is around $56,065. These armchair geniuses think people making 250,000 (refs) to 60 million (players) per year and coaches making 7 million per year are willing to risk it all.
to make their team...
lose.
Do refs make bad calls and miss calls? yes, every week and most likely every game there is a missed penalty or a flag thrown when it shouldn't have been. Does this mean that thousands of people are conspiring behind YOUR back to make YOUR team lose? No, but the concept does make me laugh.
Thought I was the only one who felt this way, sometimes ppl screw up at their jobs it’s not always aliens or conspiracy lol
You're right the multi billion dollar business with legalized gambling couldn't possibly ever be rigged.
lmao. you don't need "thousands." all it takes is one. Tim Donaghy...
@@KorithStoneheart Right... your team sucks or a human makes a mistake and Your team loses... It's rigged, it's rigged... Mommy, mommy, mommy I want my trophy too. Losers always cry like you are doing... always.
@@chuckleezodiac24 Right... your team sucks or a human makes a mistake and Your team loses... It's rigged, it's rigged... Mommy, mommy, mommy I want my trophy too. Losers always cry like you are doing... always.
Don't touch Kermit.
He got his ass shellacked last week & had no roughing penalties. It’s kinda funny, if you look at roughing penalties called on QBs, mahomes isn’t even in the top 15-20 QBs to get roughing calks. Now, Josh Allen is in the top 5, so y’all really need to rethink this ‘Mahomes gets all the roughing calls’ narrative.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 ... where does he rank it total QB hits when compared to all QBs?
Context matters and people use partial stats all the time to make arguments
@@JoshuaHopkins-j9o True, but if you aren't in top 15-20 even if you get hit significantly less I don't think percentage would be enough to change that.
He also has the most TDs and Interceptions called back from penalties which is also interesting.
100% incomplete pass.
100% B.S.A.F
@@RosaHernandez-vy4dm what is that mean
100% a fumble.
Good call, incomplete. Wouldn't have counted anyway because they put a forearm to his helmet. 15 baby, I did see two bad defensive holds called against texans. Also refs missed a push off on Schultz for a td on mcduffie
And the bogus offensive pass interference call against Tank Dell
@randytabor754 Yeah I'll give you that one. Ok so 3 bad calls but strouds 2 ints lost them this game. Schultz also dropped a huge 3rd and 8. I still say this one was incomplete because Pat pushes the ball forward.
Just stop playing and give the Lombardi trophy to KC. Waaaaay toooo many "plays" going their way. It defies the laws of probability.
What was the logic behind giving the Chiefs an early week 6 bye and a late season stretch of 3 games in 10 days if the league is rigging it all to gift them a SB?
I suggest you kids just stop watching and go touch grass.
Your tears are so delicious
Awww...u want some cheese w/ that whine?
I was thinking the same thing Karlaftis was obviously held and no call whatsoever but no one wants to talk about when the refs mess up in the other teams favor
So sick of Mahomoe being favored
you mean youre sick of Mahomes winning? Bc he’s rarely favored. Also, if you have any knowledge of football, you would understand that if the quarterback has control of the ball when the arm is moving forward but they lose control after, its an incomplete pass.
Typical Bills/Error Roger fan. Another player is better than your favorite player and you have to tear that player down because your player is trash
@@AmarilloArmadillo1234 Wow another sportsball nerd.
@@ur_fav_sportygirl correct calls but he's still favored they watch him closer than other qbs Joe burrow almost got his head 360'd with no call
@@KnoTalent yeah I saw that but Joe Burrow has a higher rate of interceptions called back than Mahomes AND Mahomes is much higher in TDs called back 😅
I think anything could be called here. Id argue the arm was forward before it was lost. He has a decent amount of control as he started the movement.
You could argue either way 😅
End of the day these chief haters are gonna hate and whine and moan. Meanwhile my son is desperately needing a nap but is singing "Red Kingdom" over and over. I am on the west coast so yes it is nap time.
I've hated the chiefs since 1975
@chrisgonzalez4414 don't lose sleep over it
Chiefs super bowls are paper thin because of the help they get. Honestly worse than the Patriots ever got. Refs carry them down the field when it matters most, enjoy your fake trophies 😂.
Of course a Chiefs bandwagon would say that 😂
@JH-lb3kc I don't lose any sleep.
The fact that anyone could look at the play and call it a fumble just solidifies the the enormous amount of coping you guys have to do just to stomach that your teams can’t beat the Chiefs. Most obvious incompletion ever, and anytime you knock a QB upside the head that’s going to be called. Next, let’s talk about the hold and push off that gave Texans a TD. Oh wait we won’t talk about it because you won’t get the extra views from the crybaby community.
He had no control of the bal and it was falling out of his hand. This is the most ridiculous rule ever. Only Brady and Mahomes benefit from it
And Josh Allen. He has more roughing the passer calls on him than Brady or Mahomes
Idk I see it the other way, does it seem that ridiculous?
Personally, I think a fumble traveling 10-15 yds in the air is quite a bit more ridiculous 😂
Both were clearly correct calls.
BS
I think the roughing the passer call was weak but let's be real about it, he still had it in this hand, the ball didn't change its direction until there was forward movement. @@DreamFearless
@@DreamFearless it was clearly right calls if u cant see that then ur just mental
@@10thletter40 Correct, just a bad pass. But it was a pass.
@@DreamFearlessa shot to the head is a shot to the head. When it is on a QB it is roughing the passer. That particular hit wasn't overly aggressive, but I've seen lesser hits be called RTP. That IS a roughing call, plain and simple.
Mahomes always get protected even though he not the best QB this year. I agree, incomplete pass. The flag on contact to his face, looked incidental to me and I guarantee you there were hits to other QB's heads by the KC defense that were never called. It really is time for the officiating crews to be held to a higher standard. Missed calls, bad calls, outright favoritism has no place in the game. There are too few in a season to have a sigle blown call decide the game, and yet they still do. Time for the officials to be on the line as much as the bills. Release them on waivers when they blow it. Maybe they can go to Hockey?
Can you review the texans TD play where the refs missed holding on #56 and missed the OPI on the player that caught the pass?
Can we talk about the bogus offense pass interference call on Tank Dell one of the worst calls I have ever seen
@randytabor754 what the real problem is the refs suck and their call are not consistent. They do not favor 1 team over another.
Yeah. Didn’t look like a fumble to me live. Was shocked it was called a fumble to start with.
I agree with you. The defender was trying to swat the ball, not really going for the head. Incidental, not significant. I hate the forward motion rule. I like the old rule (interpretation) of the ball is not a pass until it passes the head.
I agree with you about liking the old rule a bit better... but i could say that about almost every rule change in the last decade or so
It doesn't matter what he is going for... if you hit the QB in the head it is a penalty against everyone else.... except Mahomes.
They dont call that forevery QB ask sam darnold or favre in 09 bountygate game...
stop tryna defend mahomes bru 😭🙏
Of course
I love how this is a video trying to "prove" an incomplete pass, while 74 is bear hugging the defense the entire time 😂😂😂
His arm was hit bye a defender. No fumble, no penalty, great defensive play.
The rule is that the Chiefs are getting that three peat no matter what. 🤡🧈🍿🧂😃🤣
Gotta be a Bengals fan...no one else whines like that 😂
@andybales7318 Not even close. Try harder. And the rule is the Taylor City Swifties three peat. It's that simple to see. 🤡🍿🧈🧂😃🤣
@andybales7318 Nope. 😃🤣
Yeah, that was a pass. A shitty pass, but it was a pass. But the real issue is, what did Tay Tay think???
The ANNOUNCERS ruled it a fumble. It was NEVER called a fumble on the field.
Thats a fk fumble.
Chiefs fan since I was a boy. Born in Wichita Ks. In 59. I watched them play the first Superbowl. Mostly been a hope of just having a winning Season all those years. But the last ten have made up for that. I used to have to wait on highlight reels to see their games. It sure has been nice to watch as the rest of the NFLfans have turned against them. That is what you call a winner. And everyone else who pulls for another team. Hates a consistent winner. So I will continue to enjoy this while it lasts. Because nothing last forever.
I really enjoy all of the chiefs hate and jealousy. Brings a smile to my face every single day ☺️
Am I the only one who hates yellow gloves? The older I get, the harder it is to tell the difference between gloves and flags. 😂
Ist that a forward pass for the last 50 years. ? The penalty is cheap.
Yes.
Forward pass
Cheap penalty. Why does everyone think they need to agree or disagree with both?
Jackson gruegr is chiefs hater 😂, dislikes
1. Flags are usually thrown directly at the spot of the foul. This was "THROWN IN THE AIR" just to throw a flag. 2. Other angles show mahomes elbow getting hit, so it should not have been overturned. 3. "1000 out of 1000 times" except when joe burrow gets it straight to the face, and they just fine the player a week later.
I'm a Texans fan and I actually agree with you on this particular play. It was a shame and so close. But time after time when our D had the Chiefs stopped, the refs threw a flag for pretty borderline fouls. It was pretty obvious in the first half. It probably cost us 6 -10 points and would have led to a much closer game at the half. Chiefs still have class for how they gave Tank the VIP treatment when he got injured! Thank you, KC medical team!
I’m a Texans fan and I’m sorry to say that was not a fumble. Remember the famous Tom Brady “fumble” that wasn’t. Same thing.
You are spot on...This isn't a fumble. 1 his arm is going Fwrd so it's incomplete pass. 2 even if they'd have said it was a fumble the hand of a Defense player hits the QB in the face mask so it's roughing the passer due to NFLs rules. This would be called if it was lamar Jackson, Josh allen, Joe Burrow etc. And would've wiped out the penalty. Any hate from fans saying these aren't penalties simply don't know the rules and are only going off the false national sports narative that chiefs get all the calls In their favour to win. It's false too you can look it up. Their not even top 10 in penalties or yards from penalties and not top 5 in penalties in 4th qtr in one score games.
It was a fumble, the Texans suppose to have the 🏈 back, but the referes cheated and call a penalty on the Texans, and let the Chief offense stay on the firld, Cheating for Kansas City Chefs, That's the truth, Than the Texans would have won the game
That's a crazy take. Texans TD where holding stopped Stroud getting sacked AND Schultz pushed off not enough for you?
Texans aints beating the Chiefs. You expect too much, listen to people who say the Chiefs offense is trash, etc. Reality is hard to swallow.
Curious, why did u drop out of school?
@andybales731
How did they miss Dalton Shultz pushoff for the TD . The defender was clear outta the picture when he caught it because he was shoved.
someday he'll retire and we can see some just officiating
This is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read.
@@anthonyware4033Ironic.
@@anthonyware4033how so? Now I know “just officiating “ ain’t happening ever but it’s wishful thinking on the op part. What I don’t understand is why you called it the dumbest thing you’ve ever read. You must not read much.
@LowercaseKev because all.of these brain dead snowflakes think the refs are rigging the games. It is dumbest thing people say. They cried when Brady was playing too and they cried about manning. This is an old take that it completely ignorant
@anthonyware4033 They have no proper factual evidence to back their arguments, these same 'snowflakes' you speak about all received participation trophies growing up thinking they're on the same level as the winners. They're mainly upset because one particular team has been dominating these last few years and their team hasn't.
Intentional grounding then since its a pass? Didn’t make it to the line of scrimmage and no receiver in the area and he was in the pocket.
Crack open a dictionary and look up "intentional".
This is the level of retardation we are dealing with. It's casual fans such as yourself that have helped propagate this Chiefs/Refs narrative because you don't even know what you are looking at the majority of the time when a call or non-call happens.
@ well In any other real sport if a penalty occurs regardless of intent that why football has the rigged label because bullshit like that where if it was any other QB they call “grounding” but mahomes gets the bail out every game
@ maybe it shouldn’t be pass interference anymore since the defense didn’t mean to foul
@@Etronoxz This doesn't really matter because it doesn't apply in this specific scenario but I'll point it out anyways... Literally CAN'T be intentional grounding the moment the ball is altered in any way, shape, or form coming out of the QBs arm. It's easy understand why: because the original trajectory of where the ball is intended to go has been altered. Seems pretty simple to understand right?
Why do you not know this? Take some accountability and learn the NFL rules if you are going to go online and cry about something you know nothing about. It's embarrassing.
The only rule is "The Chiefs should, by hook or by crook, rule the NFL"
That flag was a guarantee for the Queefs that the play would be coming back.
Online sports betting has corrupted the NFL.
NFL fixing games for the Chiefs to win
It was a fumble the ball came out of his hand. And the arm movement pushed the ball forward. Me personal, am tired of the NFL helping Kansas City and MaHomes.
Then go watch Tennis
His hand was over top coming down. Incomplete pass. Roughing the golden dei child horsecrap call
Mahomes is the NFL’s money maker and will always WIN. Like a good agent
Amazing how that 'fan favorite' stuff works.
I thought the flag was on KC #74 for holding, then it's a fumble / TD, then they got a call from FanDuel and reversed the call, ignored the hold, wiped out the TD and gave KC the ball....
They always rule that incomplete unless he was tucking it back more extreme than that.
Well then it should been intentionally grounding he was in the pocket and loss of down. The chefs get all calls had another one a sack but somehow got a first down like on the broncos. That's when I stopped watching this game
I agree with you, they are ruining the game, these kick off changes the on side kick off rule change JFS !!!!!! They take 10mins on a challenge or a review so they can throw in about 10 commercials and now this streaming SHIT they should be paying use to watch this shit show they call football
If the ball slips out after it is the very definition of unintentional grounding. Read the words of the penalty
The defender interupted the play has his arm went backward which caused him to loose control of the ball before his arm went foward which in this case is clearly a fumble
If it was a pass correct me if im wrong didn't see eligible reciver, and ball dosent pass line of scrimmage wouldn't it be intentional grounding??
Put a Bengals uniform on Mahomes and they never would have called that contact to the head.
You don’t know. You said it.
Chiefs derangement syndrome. Both calls clearly correct. Obvious too. Yall don’t know ball and I’m a raiders fan. Never seen people so blinded by rage they can’t see straight.
If social media was more prominent during the patriots dynasty and some of the calls and luck they had - people would have lost their marbles online.
But refs ignored 74 holding and moving early on many plays
Kansas City has come to make me hate NFL officials.
Then don't watch
Nose of the ball is point down as his arm got hit. He fingers squeezed as the ball left his hand. Clear fumble.
they replayed the ref throwing the flag if u review the game. and he actually didnt throw it up in the air. he kinda just dished it out, and it was as the hit took place.
Doesn't matter whether it was called a fumble or incomplete pass...flag was thrown for roughing the passer so even if they called fumble with TD for Houston it would have been nullified by penalty on Houston.
As much as i despise the queefs, his arm was moving forward.
They are never consistent, are you high?
The incomplete pass was fine but the roughing penalty was questionable. The defender just had is arm up tying to block the pass . This is why I don't watch football as much as I used to .
1:38 While i mostly agree with you on this point, they arent consistent enough yet still. They are still literally fining players for this when it isnt called on the field, like the zedarious smith hit on jordan love a week or two ago (yes im a packers fan but my point still stands, i also wouldnt have known about it otherwise). I would rather they just lessen their standards a bit so the ones like the mahomes hit in this video arent called but we can only ask for so much.
NFL owners have vested in online sports betting.
You got to be blind not to believe that these games are rigged
Okay regardless of any other game, this officiating crew was lead by that Cheffers guy, trust me he doesn't give the Chiefs special treatment lol. But actually he missed a few calls on both teams, like that first Texans touchdown where McDuffie basically got flung aside, but no OPI call
What about the 5 none called holding calls on the chiefs and the ghost pass interference agsisnt Dell that wasn't???? Explain those now
Great call no matter how much i dislike the chiefs
I like the hold on the play that never got called man that was obivious
The ball was slipping before his hand came forward. Total fumble.
it wouldnt have mattered if they called a fumble cause it was a clear roughing the passer call
I think it was incomplete but we cant ignore the cheifs 74 holding the texans player under the arms.
Finally people can forget about the tuck rule. If this a incomplete pass then so is that.
Will people cry about this one for another 20 years? 😭
They called roughing the passer 😂
It's a fumble. Looking at it, his elbow was hit while in the position of throwing, this cause the ball to be knocked out of his hand. Look at how the ball rotates like a field kick it wouldn't look like if it was a pass.
1:10 "He has possession now" The ball is sideways. His wrist is paralell with the goal line. I guess if he was throwing it directly to the side line u could call that a pass..... laaaame
Cry some more😂🫵🤡
😂😂 pay no attention to #74 Taylor completely holding back the def end that hits mahomes arm.
Some people say mediocre refs and too many questionable rules are hurting the game, sometimes I agree. I certainly saw more than enough illegal formations flagged during much of the season. Not to mention, the commentators are flapping their jaws way too much.
There is going to be an asterisk on the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl this year 😜
not sure of the point of the video
That was is an incomplete pass, called the same way in the Pats games too
Do you think the NFL will ever do anything to stop the Swifties!
A pretty good rule of thumb, when it comes to fumbles.. if the ball propels out of the quarterback's hand in the typical trajectory of.. let's say, a forward pass.. THEN it's not a fumble. Especially if you SEE WITH YOUR EYES, that he actually threw the ball, even without having all of his fingers on the laces. 🙈🤦
Oh, so many broken hearts.
By the rule it’s an incomplete pass let’s not forget all the roughing the passer rules can into effect to protect Brady!
Is there serious debate out there that this wasn't an incompletion???
Dude you see the offensive pass interference and the hold on the same play that cost us 7 points
REFBALL IN FULL DISPLAY BECAUSE OF TAYLOR SWIFT'S BRIBES!
love the chiefs n i agree his arm was moving forward.