Hyperion XP-1 Hydrogen Powered Supercar Goes 1,000 Miles (And Very Quickly)
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- There are plenty of battery-electric car startups. Hyperion believes hydrogen is a far better way to launch a car from 0-60 miles an hour in 2.2 seconds. This is a preview of the XP-1 that will be built in Ohio and available in late 2021. Tom Voelk interviews Hyperion CEO and founding member Angelo Kafantaris on why he and his team believe hydrogen is the future and why NASA and Mattel played a part in the birth of the XP-1. This is largely a video interview but packed with information and pictures (sorry about the low quality video and audio). A later video will focus on why Kafantaris believes hydrogen is easier and more efficient to produce than you might think.
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That car looks like it escaped from 2130 .
Lol yea man
Finally, hydrogen being taken seriously!!!
Hydrogen does not work.
@@markplott4820 What makes you say that? From everything I've seen it works perfectly fine, but has no infastructure anywhere. Even in California hydrogen fuel stations are quite sparce.
Yeah!
@@markplott4820 The 🌞 might disagree.
Hydrogen cars is a waste of energy
When PhDs design a car.
Yep nice 3D render lol
They didn’t film the mechanicals nor interior. I would’ve like to see the actual hydrogen cell and battery packs
Cmiiw, they use ultracapacitors instead of batteries.
There are not batteries and may be it is tech secret
@@radio-active8522 You have a point.
They did not film the car at all. It is all computer animated. Also, Hyperion Motors has not yet any patents - do a Google Patent search. All you will find is unrelated stuff from other companies which have "Hyperion" in their name.
@@KlausKaiserDB3TK Sometimes it is wiser not to file a patent. If you file a patent, you tell your competitors exactly what you are doing and exactly how your technology works. There is value in secrecy.
Organizing hydrogen into a storage system to get it functional is a big hurdle. I didn't realize the organic framework was coming along so rapidly. Way to go Angelo!
Be honest, who else thought it was a new Bugatti?
Yeah, that was the exact thought I had. I am sick of these start ups that can’t come up with their own design language!
@@nathanielmoran8537 I'd say that it's a fusion of the BMW i8 and Bugatti Chiron, but it beats them both in terms of looks. The i8 looks like a toy, and the Chiron is hideous, but the XP-1 looks vicious, sturdy, and sleek.
Yup, that shape is 98% Chiron. Especially that curve piece on the doors.
Well yeah, but do not blame the designers. That is aerodynamic form so the both are using it for better performance.
@@radio-active8522 Well, this was designed before the Chiron, so..
You def went “beyond” the look of a Bugatti.
The Bugatti is very aerodynamic so I’m not suprised
PBS NOVA around 1980 had a program that showed how our current vehicles and natural gas lines could be converted to hydrogen fuels. I've been a aficionado since.
Thank lord hydrogens is started to be looked at it’s literally the future but it’s been looked over for too long now and it’s finally starting to be taken serious
A few thoughts: Fuel Cells cars have been sold in California on a limited basis and there is a limit4ed H2 distribution system. These have been smaller cars and have modest performance compared to this super car. There seems be very limited details on the power train other than it has a fuel cell and ultra capacitors. There is no discussion of how those elements are combined, but fuel cells, particularly solid matrix don’t throttle easily. The ultra capacitors can charge and discharge large amount of power quickly but for very short period of time. I doubt whether the 0 to 60 time is repeatable without some recharging of the capacitors.
Yes, and many of those who drive fuel cell cars complain that when refueling in humid weather, the fuel nozzle freezes to the car.
At first, I liked this video... but after watching... this guy really doesn't explain anything about how this car works. Everything he says is extremely vague.
I’m sure he’ll explain more about it outside of a Zoom call. 😂
Perhaps at their official launch event??
Man there is nothing oficial in this chat and also it can be a tech secret. But i do not want that cuz the world wants eco-friendly cars like that instead the old ones. So if more people know the way more people will walk trough it
In terms of power delivery, he explains that. Fuel cells for the base power delivery + super caps for the bursts (no chemical battery apparently?). Apart from that it should have motors front and back in order to deliver such acceleration
trust your gut
I enjoy his enthusiasm! Makes me more interested in the car and the technology
I’m not joking! My dads hydrogen business will be getting the car for my dad! Well he is the CEO of his Business so he will be getting the car in 2022 to help his hydrogen business! It’s kinda hard to explain but it’s exciting! I’m super excited about it.
It's hard as hell to transport hydrogen as a fuel. 🤦♂️ It also has to be secure as hell. Why not use methanol.
OMG Woow!! Looks like a space ship
I truly hope this works out and gets the word out faster..... so many people do not understand that battery electric cars are good in the short term, but are SUPER bad in the long term, as they need new batteries every once in a while and that we already have such a small reserve of lithium on earth and that is the most used elements in those batteries and that we no longer have easy to extract lithium now, we just have hard to extract lithium that requires a lot of harmful digging that hurts and disrupts the environment around it... hydrogen is far superior to battery powered vehicles.... i believe the future is a hydrogen vehicle with a small battery that gets you 50 miles that you can plug-in in your house to charge for your commute
Exactly this. And with green hydrogen, the whole thing is powered by sunlight. Beautiful.
bla bla blah , we can talk about this car when will see on the streets - otherwise blah- blah
I love the CEO's vision for a company and it's employees.
This guy is a total bullshit artist. Nikola vibes here. Any CEO talking about their "NASA technology" once if not 3 times in an interview is laughable. I'm surprised Tom did this. He should know H2 is thermodynamically impossible to get to 1000mi range without a HUGE fuel tank. H2 is NOT dense enough. This guy talks about 'magic' and 'dragons' because this is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
This is very interesting. I’m very excited about this new up-and-coming car fuel source.
Hydrogen was invented in the 1800's , its a OLD and less efficient Techology.
@@markplott4820 _Tesla Boi_
@@markplott4820 Hydrogen was find a long time ago. But the technology of that types of car didn't. It is kinda innovation and bro i am not sure whether it will consume a lot of h2 but it is eco friendly. And in my opinion the hydrogen is everywhere so its producing wont be a big deal.
@@radio-active8522 - CH2 just is not Practical for Personal Vehicles , too Inefficient .
FCV = tiny Fuel tanks, short range.
BEV today can go 400+ miles , and can charge from HOME.
besides, FCV costs more than $150, to fuel up.
Electric costs 7c/kwh !!!!!!!!
TESLA Megapack can Leverage OFF PEAK energy to charge batteries at SUPER LOW PRICE.
@@markplott4820 Well you are more competent than me so I will agree but in my opinion if that gets worldwide the way and the price of h2 fuel and etc will drop.
And however you should be more open to the green technologies cuz no matter whether hyperion is worse than tesla it seems to be better than the others.
And thank you for the reply
I recommend viewing The Flight of the Phoenix from 1965, with Jimmy Stewart. One of the characters is a toy engineer. His engineering prowess is integral to plot.
The lack of infrastructure is what is delaying hydrogen vehicles. Toyota, Hyundai, Honda, Cummins, Nikola, BMW, Hyperion and any others concerned need to come together to talk about how they will approach this chicken-egg problem. Right now Nikola, Hyundai, Toyota have the most financially vested interest in Hydrogen.
I support this man's dream, Hydrogen should be the real future of propulsion, not only in cars but in planes as well. Lithium batteries are dangerous, dirty to use and very cruel to produce.
That was very interesting. Thanks Tom! I believe that it is time to starting working on bringing hydrogen-powered vehicles to the masses. Yes, I know that some of the mainstream car manufacturers have already brought hydrogen-powered vehicles to the market (Toyota Mirai, Hyundai Nexo, Honda Clarity) but the fuelling infrastructure is in its infancy. I believe they have only been available in California as leases only. Am I correct on that? There is also the issue with educating the public about hydrogen as a fuel, as many people immediately think about the hydrogen bomb or the Hindenburg when they hear the word hydrogen.. We are certainly seeing a trend towards electric vehicles, but I am concerned about the increased demand for electricity. We already know how bad coal-fired power plants are to the environment, and we have seen a few nuclear power plant accidents. Needless to say, a lot of our electricity comes from 'dirty sources'. I think hydrogen powered vehicles is the future. Angelo impressed me, and I wish him and Hyperion success.
Yes, CA is the only state so far though Toyota has been lobbying east coast states.
Supercar Blondie actually got to drive this beast! Yea this is what you call a real concept car. I wish them the best here as anything is better then the alternative. :)
While you say that battery will degrade with charging cycle, so will your hydrogen engine. (It is not correct to compare the battery with just your hydrogen storage tank) and if you compare hydrogen engine architecture with a EV motor architecture, the hydrogen engine will have more parts and it involve more complex high temperature processes which mean more maintenance involved.
There's no engine in a hydrogen vehicle, it has a smaller battery that is recharged using the electricity produced from the fuel cell converting hydrogen and oxygen into H2O
Thats how other Hydrogen vehicles work, not sure about this one
Again, Leonidas is not a good figure, the history of Spartans is not what we see in movies, and it didn't end well for him neither.
I really doubt that this is ever going to come to market. This is as feasible as Nicola's vehicles. And those from what it seems are just cat renderings and 3D renderings on a PowerPoint slide.
NIKOLA is FRAUD.
And unlike batteries no cold weather issues. Agreed all these small Hydrogen companies need to start working together.
Yes, provided that all remaining water vapour is purged from the cell stack during shutdown. If this does not work and the condensed water freezes, the fuel cell stack is destroyed.
looks good but there are zero photos of it, just 3d renders and words.
Personally, I wouldn't have chosen Hyperion as a name. Check the Greek mythology, it didn't end well for him. The design is gorgeous, a real piece of Art. Hydrogen is the way to go. A quick reminder, electric vehicles run on children slave labor. Look at cobalt from Congo. I wish them great success.
@ProgramKing Isn't it a way to burn the hydrogen directly to produce electricity? If not, I just have to invent hydrogen fusion. 😉 It's on my agenda!
PS - would like to learn more about your model car collection! Does not look typical. 😁
how much will the Hyperion XP-1 Cost?
You can do it !! 👍
Definitely this is future car...
If they develop a million mile battery which is not a pipe dream .never having to charge again
Will mean electrics will dominate we will see
another nikola....i won't be surprised to see them going public in a couple of months 😕
Hydrogen production is very energy consuming and expensive. I love the car, and I hope the best for this company, I just hope they've found a way to produce hydrogen more efficiently. Time will tell.
Glad that Hydrogen is back to business.. hope the CEO can take a bit part on his continuing inspiration doing a little search like motivation from one peruvian man who wanted to create the first personal flying model by Hydrogen... Pedro Paulet. Great video!.. greetings from Lima, Perú 👍🏼🙋🏻♂️
Very exciting news but I've seen these claims before and it didn't really go anywhere, like John B Goodenough's new glass battery. Got to wait for the production version before I'm a believer. Still to many potential "gotchas."
I've been hearing about hydrogen-powered cars for decades. Nothing has ever really come of that technology. It's not that I'm opposed to this idea, it's just the infrastructure that will take many years to engineer and this has never gone beyond speculation and hyperbole. I'll believe it when I see it. This is STILL in the theoretical and is just difficult to take seriously at this point... as much as I really like this idea.
Agreed. But I think we are seeing a significant change in the cost and willingness of companies to invest spending on the infrastructure for the H2 movement. America is behind the curve on this one.
Well i too but this guys seem to be in it and to be pretty close to smth real and good. We need that change and support the idea for eco-friendly cars. I am sure that these guys will succeed.( Hopefully)
Nice can’t wait for rockstar to add this car in gta 5 hehe, that’s if they do.
the renders are locked and loaded.
These are cgi renders? or do they have a running prototype?
Not sure, but to me it pretty much looks like cgi.
Ugh,I just hate hype machine companies. They shouldn't announce anything so lofty before having at least a partially working prototype. There's millions of Indians and Chinese who can easily make that car on cgi, no one is impressed by it anymore.
It’s a working prototype. 4th one. Watch the vid again. He says full functioning. You can look up other vids too.
J-me C could you send me a TH-cam link for the real one? I've just searched TH-cam and only found the same clip they showed on Tom's video.
IG @hyperionmotors the car is actually being driven.
I like it, but would never own one. After watching a vid of what happened when an lp-powered van was hit & started spewing like a flamethrower, I'll pass...
Literally powered by the same stuff the Hindenburg was filled with
@@slomnim and we all know how that ended...
"We arent the villains in this game!..."
another nikola scam
Beautiful car.the color .every single aspect of that car is so nice 👌
If Tesla buys Hyperion then we know they have something...
NASA is in on it... they didn’t want anything to do with Tesla. That’s what says a lot to me...
Haha. They don't have anything and Tesla won't buy this.
@@j-mec7904 you know Elon Musk's other company works for NASA. I don't know if you've heard they just launched some astronauts to the ISS for them.
Future hypercar 👍👍
nope, Hydrogen does not work.
@@markplott4820 why it does not work? Can you explain?
@@User556q - just to Create the Fuel (CH2), takes MORE energy to create , than the Energy the fuel has.
you are Better off Building RENEWABLE Energy + Battery storage or Building Superchargers.
Hydrogen is 5x more expensive than BEV technology.
Currently MOST Hydrogen fuel is made with Fossil Fuels.
BEV is a SUPERIOR Vehicle , and you can charge it at home.
the County would NEVER permit you to have a Hydrogen Station on your Property.
I’m very interested in hydrogen but the aroma of BS is strong in this guy. I’ll continue to keep my eye on production technologies and infrastructure. Leave the hype man to the teenagers.
Interesting, but do question if this is an actual car or not. Have never heard of or seen this car before and I suspect we have some CGI going on here.
It was going along fine until he pointed out the wing had solar cells... Really? Why?
Even if your panels are 100% efficient, and the sun is at zenith, the power you can harness from that small an area is negligible, compared to your H2 fuel cell... So, it's a gimmick, and it totally costs you in technical credibility. (A great way to saturate a customer's hype detector, that solar wing.)
And then he says "The Sun is made of Hydrogen!"... Oh, in that case I am totally sold, dude. I want one of these. (NOT!)
BTW: Please tell me about the headroom and legroom... :-) :-)
Brother please make sure that every mechanical machine on our Planet (ie cars, SUV,MPV,Bus,Lorry..etcetc)will run on this technology and Save Mother 'NATURE'.
It's butt ugly, but I'm starting to be convinced that hydrogen may have a future. At least alongside BEVs. Hydrogen is about to be used for large haul trucks and heavy farming equipment.
lol nice CG car
You make a 2,500lbs competitor to a tesla model 3 that goes 700 miles for like $25,000 you'd build interest
So hydrogen cars are environmentally friendly like electric vehicles but comes with the fun and range of ICE. Damn
Safety Factors...?
Speed ...too much...I Losted a many to muscle cars 1960s...
For this technology to be viable is to make hydrogen widely available at lower cost than electricity
that is impossible. You will always use more energy to produce hydrogen then you get in the finished product. 50-55 kwh to produce 1kg of hydrogen which contains 33.6kwh of energy. thats a loss of 33% of the energy in the production only. Then you have transports to the hydrogen factory and transports from the factory, refilling and last part transforming hydrogen back to electricity to fill the batteri then take the energy out of the battery again to run the electric motors. Then we have to add building a new infrastructure of fillingstations.
Do you know how to manufacture Hidrogen fuel in a very efficient way, competing with Gasolines?
Great video! I have to disagree with him about the sound of cars. I owned a FIAT 500 Abarth for 7 years, which the sound was the top reason I bought it. I've been looking at BEV & PHEV, and one of the things I appreciate about them is the silence you get while running in pure EV. In these days of constant 'noise', I find it nice to have my car now be a quiet place I can chill out in, with little or no sounds. That being said, I cannot wait to hear the 'dragon noises' this car can make!!!
Personally i don't care about the sound of cars
So by making like 300 of these and selling them for hundreds of thousands and making them available to the rich only is going to help prevent pollution and help the community how??
i think the point here is not to become another tesla but showcase that hydrogen might be a valid alternative. if it gains traction be sure to have some of the bigger car manufacturers jump in. these days it's all about perception. diesel engines are very efficient now but noone touches them with a 10ft pole after dieselgate.
@@tikkivolta2854 car companies have known about other more efficient clean ways of making autos but that doesnt change anything I think what the world really needs is a company willing to step up and produce in mass quantity a auto that is clean to the environment and affordable to the common public while also producing high end sports cars with the same clean combustion. Tesla is a 6 figure car how much can it really help if only a few can afford it, that is if the goal is to change the industry to "help" so do say the environment?
@@rickyramirez1691 please read my comment again. especially the first part.
@@tikkivolta2854 hydrogen has already been around you remember the water powered chevy s10? I say if your gonna do something do it to make a change not just showcase....
This future will not become a reality because the people on SSI got their salary doubled
He does sound awfully like Trevor Milton ? Hopefully I'm wrong ...
Wow this is some vague stuff... he is just a salesman and tells pretty much nothing about the car...
They need to call toyota and team up....
Hydeogen has massive amount of power? Are you kidding me.
The number of views on this video itself shows how people take hydrogen .
Future is coming batteries are out petrol is out clean Future oil coutrys are sad hahahaha
The Toyota Mirai needs 37.5 gallons of hydrogen to travel 400 miles. Assuming the Hyperion has efficiency similar to the Mirai's, it would need to carry 80 gallons of hydrogen to travel 1000 miles. At $16/gallon, a fill up would cost $1,280!
Yea still cheaper then a Telsa $20,000 battery replacement lol. None of these are very practical but at least they are moving foward. More then I can say for the big automakers.
I remember Hydrogen power being hyped in the movie "The Saint" with Val Kilmer and Elizabeth Shue. That's been 20 years ago and I still want to see mainstream use of the tech.
It is a hard thing to do. This car is about hydrogen cells to produce electricity by combining it with oxygen to get water as a subproduct. "The saint" was related to hydrogen fusion, a form of nuclear reaction that produces a lot of clean energy and helium as a subproduct. That technology has advanced greatly and there are already viable options for big scale reactors. Google "ITER tokamak" for more info. Some say that in 30 years the world can be powered by hydrogen fusión.
And that hydrogen fusion energy çould be use to produce hydrogen to fill tanks in hydrogen-cells electric cars
certainly makes Tesla look so mundane and uninspiring a bit like Rlon is
Sure, 1000 miles per fill up is easily possible for hydrogen car. But so is 3000 mile range per fill up for gasoline car. Nobody makes 3000 mile range gasoline car because there is no demand for it (but they ought to - it will make E. Musk purple with jealosy!). 400-700 mile range per 5 min fillup is plenty for everyone.
A little more important with such a small number of fueling stations though.
Very cool fuel source but personally I think the car is hideous
Tesla roadster: 620 mile range
Hyperion: hold my beer
This is basically a hydrogen buggatti chiron?
You bet!
the design lacks maturity and overstyled, the technology is interesting tho.
It won't have maken to headlines/timelines then.
@@vaibhavpal7380 bro.. how about Rimac tho? Their brand exploded with a very humble and low-profile car design like koenigsegg. If your brand's success depends on aesthetic shock value, your future is questionable. If their technology is so revolutionary, why is there a need for overstyling the car? It's like a hot wheels car ffs. 😆😆 Other brands did beautiful and mature cars for their premium price point, why can't they?
That vehicle wil make your eardrums blow
Wonderful technology.Super car
how many years until this car is affordable?
0 to 60 in 2.2 seconds? Pics or it didn't happen
Name from a Rolls Royce and McLaren combined? Lol
SHIFT EV converted Johnny Cash Rolls Royce Silver Shadow 1970 to a TESLA Electric car.
Good Job , this is sweet lovely the thing tuff mad
Quite similar to a fully electric car with the motors
Can you simply add water to fuel it?
looks like the bug car on old journey albums
what happens if it crashes and blows up?
I used to be completely against hydrogen vehicles. The main problem isn't the vehicles as much as it is the hydrogen. Only 5% is made from water, and the fueling stations cost almost $2 million. The generation and fueling technology needs to be better before any of that happens.
How much do you think it costs to build a gas station?
@@DrivenCarReviews Each gas pump costs
Such a cool design....
Looks cooler than a Bugatti.
It is not the technology but the supporting infrastructure that matters. While anyone can charge their EV at home if no public charger is available, hydrogen vehicle will today have to rely on hydrogen producing facilities which is non existence today, unfortunately
They’ve yet to figure out how to fix the transportation issue. Transporting hydrogen is a massive hurdle, way more than designing an engine. Laws of physics make the energy needed to transport it, way less efficient than even electricity and of course gas.
Can we put wings on this car?
hhmm is the monoque chassis is came from a Bugatti Chiron?
Probably not
Hard to be at the forefront of new tech takes time and money
Won't happen over night. Especially with all the world's money and brain power going towards developing electric cars
Hydrogen cars > ev's
I take all this with a grain of salt, but, men I hope they succed. It oeuld be awesome, not just the car but the whole system. Still, a lot of technical challenges to break.
I just want a porsche 911 in my life time. Ford mustang might be closer.
Great interview sir...
buggati spyder
Finally a car that goes far 1000miles is sick. Plus looks great, yes like Bugatti.