@@emirdiegomontes6411 I think the battle would've been solved before it even began. Hannibal was a great tactician and Caesar was a great strategist. If Caesar won the battle of logistics and deception, he'd win. If not, Hannibal would most likely out-command him. Caesar's strength was his legions. As HC said - "Caesar didn't care about formations or maneuvers - he left that to his subcommanders".
This is legitimately the best series on TH-cam at the moment and I just want to thank you for putting so much time and effort into telling this amazing story.
Sometimes reality is crazier than fiction. I swear to God no one will be able to tell such a great story like this. And the greatest thing is that it all really happened
The comment I saw that best described why this story is so great is because Caesar is, by all definitions, a Mary Sue. He survived all this wild shit in Gaul, crossed the rubicon, defeated Pompey magnus, then was assassinated by friends and former enemies. He has plot armor for days, up until the shitty twist ending. If it was fiction this story would be some shitty self insert fanfic, but because it happened to a real person he goes from a Mary Sue to a tactical genius and amazing politician (if we ignore the not yet war crimes).
Metellus should be given the title of the Last Roman. This is the only time in history he is mentioned ever and he does not even have a wikipedia page, but he is one that truly deserves it.
"What I remember about the rise of the Imperium is... how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Gallic Wars, the XIII Legion was discreetly transferred back to Rome. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not when we crossed the Rubicon, not when we entered Rome, and not when we marched into the Senate´s Curia. Not a word..."
Ok, but the thing is you're talking Star Wars to reference Rome, whereas Star Wars was referencing Rome when when it talked about the fall of the old republic. You have a sort of circular, chicken and the egg type of thing going on here where Rome is Coruscant, which is Rome, which is Coruscant, which is Rome, ad infinitum.
They really didn't have much choice in their defense. They thought they were making many seasons, and only last second told they had only two. They cut out massive amounts of writing and history to fit to their schedule and budget.
Ah, I thought so. I believe he's Nero's grandfather and a true chariot racer. I think he would become seriously injured from it, unless I'm confusing him for Nero's father.
Labienus was a tribune of the pleb in 63 BCE, when Cicero was consul and unfoiling the second catalinarian conspiracy. Remember that video where you spoke about a case Cicero defended someone accused for political reasons of a murder 30 years ago ? The accuser was Labienus. This action advanced his military career has he became a legate of Caesar as a reward. I believe Labienus experience as a member of the senate during the senatus consultum ultimum must have played a big role in his decisions during Caesar rebellion.
It's rather bizarre that Pompey and the senate did not take Rome's treasury along with them while in fleeing Italy. He simply boarded it up, and left? He didn't expect Caesar to raid it despite knowing that Caesar lacked the capital to maintain the army?
HC said in the video it was Rome's treasury.. Before today what I knew is that Caesar looted Rome's sacred treasures, many of which were of religious significance and had moral value to the identity of Rome, hence it isn't something that could ever leave the city. That treasure and relics or whatever they were belonged to no one and Pompey couldn't just take them with him, because it was expected that no one would touch them, not even Caesar. Things are always unclear aren't they..
think Cicero, who has since proved to be a liar, said that. evidence shows he took the main treasury. it should be noted that the Optimates had sworn repeatedly that it was virtually empty, so maybe people believed them?/also, there were actually elected people in charge of it, and they all fled, including the consuls. another note, one of Ceasars actually points of popularity was in actually efficiently running things whenever he was in charge ( Calendar corrections, stopping Usury, actually holding elections on time).This whole daring him to fight and not having a plan and not taking the Treasury when you FLEE The COUNTRY! kinda undercuts the Boni's position as defenders of the republic.
He was obnoxious, selfcentered, and sometimes even rude But he had a great intellect, and even more important (at least in my opinion) he was honest and always direct (wich is part of the reason of why he could end up being rude) A great guy honestly
When I am watching these videos, I am always blown away at the logistics that must have been involved, and which don't get much detail. Consider what would really have been involved in Caesar getting gold from the Temple of Saturn out to his men in Gaul. Along these lines, also consider Caesar's crafty move in trying to block the harbour to prevent Pompey's escape. Here is a man who has spent all his life thinking hard, and cataloguing his ideas into processes and playbooks. Did any of the knowledge of this survive? Or did he deliberately omit it, in a spirit of sprezzatura?
You know what else I wonder- how much of Caesar’s action were deliberately and meticulously planned out how much was just seat of the pants pragmatism that worked because Caesar was such a genius
I think about this too. Every time anyone travels, any time there's a meeting, I think about how long it took for people to get to it. What the scheduling was like. When mail intercepts someone on the road, how did that happen?!
@@joshuahutchings558 as they say, all roads lead to Rome. Probably an exaggeration, but it would make it easy to know what roads a person would take to and from the city.
@cratuki TOTALLY agree....Caesars fortifications at Alesia....his bridging of the Rhine River....the attempted blocking of the port at Brundisium....THESE are the actions of a man with an iron will who Will Not Stop, who believes that Anything is possible and is willing to work towards it.... I think Caesar understood the capabilities of his legions (not just in terms of combat but in terms of Building things) better than his opponents.... I think he had a better grasp of engineering as well....he wasn't a luxury loving aristocrat.,... the rich pigs just couldn't keep up with him ....if only he'd been successful at Brundisium it's possible many Roman lives could have been spared with Pompey DEAD
they didnt expected caesar to take it either,it was kind of "sacred" treasury of rome.not the sume of private wealth of citizens,or state owned money. historical artifacts with significance to the roman population,more than piles of coins, they just happened to be made from gold and gems and other valuable stuffs. the roman treasury was more like a museum to the glory of rome and the early years of the republic,never to be spended.
@@64standardtrickyness - What Iñigo says: conservatives just don't expect the unexpected, Caesar just had to do the unexpected, that's why he won. On the other hand, he should have been more implacable, he might have survived to old age and founded a dynasty or something. He was too much of a gentleman, too soft.
@French Jesus - He was "sorta leftist" in the context of Rome, a social reformer and a heir in many aspects of Marius and the Gaius bros. He was of course more concerned about his own political career, and at times very physical survival, and he was pretty much merciless re. foreign peoples (not always, he did value mercy and he praised Crassus the Younger for exercising it in Aquitaine, but still...) No social reformer in Rome (or in general in Antiquity) even considered slavery an issue, social conflict was about plebeians vs patricians, slaves were not considered, except by slaves themselves such as Spartacus.
I truly respect how you continuously reference and mention Labienus and his importance not only in the Gallic wars but his role during the Civil War that followed.. So many other sources gloss over his importance and give far too much credence to Marc Anthony.
HC also has a clear anti Caesarian bias though, so it makes sense that he would discount Antony. I love his videos, but he has a clear bias and doesn’t hide it and because of that, he is much harsher on the Caesarian faction and Caesar than I feel is fair or accurate.
@@princeofgreece9054 Agreed, the moment your opinion plays a part in your tell, it's no longer a recount of historical fact, but storytelling. Which clearly works for youtube. But the bias is there. Also, history remembers the "Great Roman Empire", you can ask anyone on the street what they know about Rome and the first thing they will tell you is that it was an Empire. I am sure some people will even laugh in your face if you tell them the city of Rome still exists. We don't remember the "Great Roman Republic" do we? And we owe that in great measure to Caesar. He outmaneuvered everyone in the military and politics and was a great leader, his troops loved him, that does not happen to idiots, incompetents, or unloyal leaders.
@@max4750 He isn't, but to say Caesar isn't better would be sort of ridiculous considering outcome, especially considering resources. With equal resources, Caesar wouldn't have even made it close. He might not be the greatest general ever, but he should be in the top 10 greatest generals ever at least.
@@Lithane97 Actually, the soldiers are hiding behind those Xs inside the square. A variation on the Trojan Horse gambit. How do you think Rome won so many battles? You will notice that Cavalry only have one line to hide behind. That's because horses are harder to hide.
Trexmaster12 previous video in 2016, also on the topic of 49 BC ceasar vs pompey: pharsalus (events in greece after the end of this video) he says at the beginning: someday i'll deconstruct the words caesar marches on rome.
Caesar shipping his stuff to Labienus is touching to me. Even though his friend choose to stand against him, he didn't take any of Caesar legions. Caesar while he might feel something, pack all Labienus and sent to him feel like a declaration "You and I are now stranger, the next time we met would be truly so"
@@LuisAldamizHe was renowned even in his time for sparing most of his Roman enemies. He definitely put the reputation of Sulla to shame. I'd say if Labienus had came back to Rome and asked for forgiveness, Caesar likely would've pardoned him.
He said in one of his videos, I think it was about Pharsalus, that one day he would spend an entire video deconstructing the words "Caesar marched on Rome". And finally, the madman, he did 😁
As far as I remember, their stories end in Gaul. After their saving of each other they aren't mentioned any more. But it's some time since I read up on them.
Haha I discovered your channel 2 days ago and was like what what happens after rubicon, searched and watched most of you videos and voila! Here it is... this channel is truly amazing and this series is just phenomenal
Excellent work. But I think that you sould mention another reason that made Labienus abandon Caesar. That he was born in Picenum, a region that was controlled by the Pompeian family, and that his patron was probably Pompey himself. I think that there is no need to mention how important was the relationship between patrons and clients in ancient Rome and what obligations both had to eachother.
Pompey was also Caesar's patron as Caesar's family was equestrii and thus below the senatorial rank. Caesar's only living, natural child, his daughter was married to Pompey and it was only after her death that he moved against Pompey.
@@admontblanc Caesar was not born an Eques, while their star was fading, he was born in Senate ranked family. His father was governor of Asia Minor, but never made Consul. His uncle was Gaius Marius. It was Pompey's father that first attained a senatorial rank in their family. Julia was married to Pompey in order to keep their coalition together after Crassus' death in Parthia. She died while Caesar was still in Briton. It was not the reason that Caesar moved against Pompey. Caesar moved against Rome, but Pompey chose to be the general of the Senators.
I want you to know that I recently (last few days) discovered your channel and have subsequently watched the entirety of your content in chronological order. Please continue the highly dramatic and fascinating story of Julius Caesar’s rise to power. You have done a fantastic job in describing the political machinations and personal motivations. Keep up the fantastic work.
Labienus:"Caesar you can't just cross the Rubicon" Caesar:"Yes i can and i'm going to march on Rome" Labienus:"Caesar no" Caesar:"CAESAR YES! CAESAR ALWAYS YES!"
0:00 Ceaser Marches South. Labienus was a great Roman General 2:11 Ceaser respected Labienus, but did not consult with Labienus 3:18 CEASER YOU TRAITOR 4:32 Cicero on Labienus 5:31 War Hawks squak 7:35 Brutus pledged loyalty to Rome, against his heart for Ceaser 9:20 Mark Antony 11:08 Ceaser pardons Demitius 11:56 Ceaser has the numbers. Pompey retreats to Southern Italy 14:34 Ceaser needs money to pay his legions. Ceaser takes their silence as approval. 15:23 Atellus continues to Veto, but steps aside and Ceaser takes The Treasury 16:15 Armies to The West and East. The Spanish Legions were the immediate threat
Legitimately, your channel has top tier content. You are what "The History Channel" aspired to be once. You deliver consistent, too notch content, with ELI5 language that keeps people entertained and inteteswd. I've learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the great job. Cheers
Caesar: "I see through the lies of the senate, I have brought peace, Freedom, and Security to my new empire." Labinus: "You're new empire?" Caesar: "don't make me kill you." Labinus: "Casar my alliance is to the republic to Democracy."
This series is fantastic! Truly brilliant, don't let the simplistic animation fool you, the entire series of videos is packed full of serious detail and excellent all round whilst also thoroughly in depth historical coverage! Absolutely superb work!
You know there are many history series on TH-cam now, but this is my favourite. The details just makes it so much better. Other shows have the stuff you know already anyway, here we get the details which are always glossed over
Can't believe you skipped the absolutely BOSS response that Caesar gave to Metellus and you decided to just blandly resume it: After Metellus kept hindering Caesar from the treasure, Caesar turned to him and said "One more disturbance and I'll put you to death. And this, as you know young man, is more of a pain for me to say than to do", and with such a line Metellus finally withdrew for good.
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu Yeah, not sure why we’re glorifying a warlord who just illegally took over the entire Roman treasury, a feat he accomplished only by thrreatening death to a Roman politician.
@@zekedia2223 Military history buffs often have a tendency to romanticize the great commanders to the extent of becoming fans that are blind to any of their flaws. As a result you get posts like that one one where an event that really doesn't reflect favorably on Caesar at all is being celebrated as "so cool."
@@lycaonpictus9662 Both of you are misinterpreting what I said. I didn't glorify anyone nor pass judgement on any of Caesar's actions besides one: the remark he made to Metellus. Nor did I say anything about the event itself or how it reflected on Caesar either. The only statement I made was that, for me, the response Caesar gave to Metellus was a boss ass response. I didn't say I agreed with Caesar's actions in general, I didn't say I like him, I didn't say shit about what I thought of him, I only said: that was a great line and a great way to persuade him to move without wasting breath and Metellus' life while it would've been much easier to just kill him on the spot. Thank you
Will you ever do videos on the 3rd century crisis period? Like Aurelian's reunification of the Empire, which earned him the title 'Restitutor Orbis' (Restorer of the World). I think that would be a cool series, because it's a period not so well known as Caesar, Augustus, Antony et al.
From this documentary i saw years ago Caesar had a hellish time in Spain with fighting being hard and still not paying his troops. In the end one of his legions mutinied and he was forced to decimate. By the time he ended up bringing the fight to Pompey in Greece his troops were still not payed....just think about that...what are you gonna do when not being paid for like 10 years..
lason29, that documentary you saw was bullshit. In Spain, he defeated Pompey legions in a month(if i remember corectly). And his troopa didnt mutinied there....and he didnt decimated them
Ahh a lovely Saturday morning with the squares and some coffee. Perfection! Also that fabulous rainbow text? We're getting fancy up in here I see, keep it up my man :)
you guys keep it simple yet so accurate and precise. One can see the LOVE you have for history and I appreciate it a lot! This caesar-series is soo goood!
Rome Newsreader: "Martial law is in effect for the safety of Rome. Groups of more than three shall not congregate in public spaces. A curfew is in effect. Any person found around the streets after dark shall be subject to summary judgement. Long live General Gaius Julius Caesar! Savior of our Republic."
I’m sure that if you’re watching this, there is about a 99% chance that you already know about the HBO series “Rome”. But if I can alert even one person to this absolutely incredible yet oft overlooked masterpiece of a series, it’s all worth it. The first season is among the best TV ever, and the second season is also extremely good, even though they only found out mid season that the show was just too expensive and wouldn’t be renewed for a third season. The creators then had to cram their planned 2-4 seasons into just season 2. Season 5, which was gonna jump ahead to the Roman perspective of Jesus’ rise in Judea, had to be cancelled altogether. A huge shame. The show had the potential to be the best ever, but instead we got two great seasons. If only Game of Thrones had come before it and shown HBO that spending big money on an incredible show can absolutely be worth it.
Then you might find it interesting that GoT was made precisely, only because Rome was made first :) HBO noticed what you said at the end and voila - we got an amazing adaptation of the books till there was something to adapt and hilarious comedy starting from season 6 :) Btw. I cannot overstate how amazing Rome is and I can't believe I slept on it for so long - watched it first time last year and holy shit, that's some good HBO series on par with Band of Brothers, The Wire or Sopranos.
That's a good way to put it. You don't have to love to Caesar, but it's so weird how optimates are taken at their word, even though they are the ones who are breaking the law all the damn time and made it into a habit to kill their political opponents.
I normally am of the side of Caesar (given the Visigoths centuries later I totally think the Germans attacked first, but HS is right that even if that is true detaining their ambassadors was over the line), but we don't know much about Labienus to say if he should be taken for his word or not. I don't see why we can't take them at face value until we know anything about his personality.
Caesar rebelled because he would be persecuted if Pompey had it his way. The whole ordeal was shady since the very beginning. Caesar was as guilty as Pompey.
I find it more the case that we have every reason to doubt everything Caesar says, because history shows us he was a liar and would stop at nothing to get what he wanted. While with Labienus, we have little written sources that give us insight to his thought processes, so why make more assumptions than neccessary?
Wacthing this again and just loving Caesar's stand. He's not just clear-sighted, he's sharp and funny. I love that madman (at least the way you narrate his story).
Promises the poor everything they want. Opposed by conservatives. Uses the combined support of the army and the poor to nullify the republic. He's basically Hugo Chavez. (...if Chavez was a brilliant general who had successfully invaded Columbia before taking over Venezuela.)
Seriously one of the best channels on TH-cam. You, phillyD and the slow mo guys are the only 3 channels i watch every video and am excited when they upload. Keep up the good work, i hope this channel keeps growing because your content is fantastic and well researched, you deserve TH-cam fame.
The general defending the city was an idiot, no wonder they defect. When using a city to defend a position you need to evacuate it first and stack it up with food so you can outlive your enemy, leaving citizens inside is stupid. Not only they will eat your food but they will defect and even bribe your own soldiers for all kinds of favors which reduces discipline and loyalty among your army.
but then the citizen may not want to leave, for fear that their house may be looted by the soldier (both under Ahenobarbus and Ceasar). Yes, there's a chance of mass killing, but this is a Roman army: that chance won't be as high as, say, a Gallic or Carthaginian one.
@@oldrabbit8290 once your army is in the city, the citizen does not have a choice. Send him with his valuables away while buy all his food and give him some promises after the war is over as a compensation. Lock his house and restrain your men from looting, it is not hard to do. Keeping them in the city is bad both for the citizens and the army, and most citizens under decent conditions would love to stay away from battles/sieges.
@@jeffvella9765 generally, inside the wall is safe, while outside the wall is not.. after all, what is the purpose of a wall, if you gonna kick everyone out when the enemy approach? 1. once your army is in the city, the citizen does not have a choice: true that. but then again, his political rival can use the fact that the general denied the population the protection of the wall (at swordpoint no less) to kill his career, and it won't make him any friend either. 2. Send him with his valuables away while buy all his food: as if wandering outside the wall is not dangerous enough for unarmed citizen, now you want them to be burdened with valuables while left them with no food. I mean, what's the worst can happen to them? - outside of bandit and enemy's foraging parties, of course. 3. Lock his house and restrain your men from looting, it is not hard to do: many battles had been lost because one's soldiers decided to loot the enemy camp instead of, I don't know, joining the battle. So it's actually quite hard. And that's a battle. A siege could last for months, and your army must be spread thin to fully cover the entire wall. What's the chance that some soldiers slip out in the night, break into an unguarded house, and grab whatever they like? civilians in war zone is always bad, but it's the kind of problem you just have to deal with. And while most citizens will try to get away of combat, they are still much safer inside the wall, instead of outside. Unarmed. On foot. Carry valuables. And with no food.
@@oldrabbit8290 during civil wars, the area where the wars are happening have 0 bandits because they would be captured and slaughtered by the armies, the bandits happen away from where the battles/sieges are happening because all soldiers are busy in the wars instead of patrolling. This is pretty much basic knowledge and demonstrates that you did not do your homework before making such invalid points. 1. by kicking out the citizens you are doing them a favor of giving them a choice to not get involved, which is the best option for the citizen, no citizen in his right mind would not accept it, and no he would not join his rival when he has the option to not get involved. That is stupid and only happens with a kind of bribe from the rival which in that case you would want them out of the city instead of inside the city anyway. 2 You send them with enough food for the journey to the next city, I meant all their extra food in their house is bought and not sequestrated, to incentivize them to not get involved. Also so their house is not looted in case of a long siege. 3. what would they grab in a house which have no valuables that they can carry without being caught by their commander? All the food has been bought already, the small valuables that can be carried like jewelry etc.., was taken away. Unless the city falls by the enemy their house should be safe. If it falls and the rival looted the city anyway, then at least they saved their lives and did not get involved, thus avoid persecution. Also the rival does not have the right to lay claim to the citizens land by accusing them of siding with his rival, which allows the citizens to retain ownership of their house/land with less difficulty. It is really the best of a difficult situation that usually leads to death by choosing a side that loses a battle/siege and most citizens would come to that conclusion, only you seem oblivious to this. Seriously you think it would be safe/better to leave your family inside a city that will be sieged (and probably starved to death in the worse case) if you had the option to move them to a city which is not going to be sieged?
@@jeffvella9765 yes, because spreading your force to patrol and hunt down bandit - while the enemy is close by and could attack you at any moment - is a stellar idea. and how can you "captured and slaughtered" all the bandit in such a short amount of time anyway? it's not like bandits have to attack anything that moves, especially when that "thing" is a heavily armed soldier. Could they just, idk, hide and avoid direct confrontation, let the soldiers pass, then prey on the civilian - which is a much better target in every sense. If hunting down bandit is that easy, then why banditry is even a problem to begin with? Could you just, idk, move your force to a region, slaughter them all, then move to next, slaughter them all, and so on until you have completely exterminated all the bandit in your kingdom? and this isn't even considered the enemy scouts and foraging parties.. or greedy soldiers in your own rank..
This my favorite series on TH-cam. If I could change anything, it would be that you would upload videos much more often, but I am sure they are a lot of work and are very time consuming to make.
Hi. I have been following your Chanel for about a year now and because of your very accessible way of explaining things, I became very interested in Roman history, conquests and politics. I’m originally from Northern Africa and throughout my childhood we used to visite ancien roman cities stationed in that region, cities like Volibuice and others. I was hoping If you could consecrate an episode about Roman campaigns in this region. Thank you.
Ohh man. No one could’ve made this up. The betrayal, the foreshadowing, the ambition, the secrets, the passion, the stakes! A true Game of Squares!
The crippled square ends up being emperor
Lol, also good analogy on Caesar and Hannibal
Both great generals, would have been great to see them head face to face
And could happen in the US! It is happening in the US with the current administration!
@@nightlightabcd Too soon...
@@emirdiegomontes6411 I think the battle would've been solved before it even began. Hannibal was a great tactician and Caesar was a great strategist. If Caesar won the battle of logistics and deception, he'd win. If not, Hannibal would most likely out-command him. Caesar's strength was his legions. As HC said - "Caesar didn't care about formations or maneuvers - he left that to his subcommanders".
FRIENDSHIP ENDED with Labienus
now MARK ANTHONY is new bestfriend
i got this
@@17njl01 One day earlier and I'd not get it.
@@JonatasAdoM aint that neat
Can you imagine how dramatic the facebook updates would have been in that time?
Marc Antony
This is legitimately the best series on TH-cam at the moment and I just want to thank you for putting so much time and effort into telling this amazing story.
So true!!!
Came to say the same thing, love this series so much!
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Sometimes reality is crazier than fiction. I swear to God no one will be able to tell such a great story like this. And the greatest thing is that it all really happened
The comment I saw that best described why this story is so great is because Caesar is, by all definitions, a Mary Sue. He survived all this wild shit in Gaul, crossed the rubicon, defeated Pompey magnus, then was assassinated by friends and former enemies. He has plot armor for days, up until the shitty twist ending. If it was fiction this story would be some shitty self insert fanfic, but because it happened to a real person he goes from a Mary Sue to a tactical genius and amazing politician (if we ignore the not yet war crimes).
@@alexpurdy673 Cesar is not a Mary Sue lol and arguably not even the best general of his own era.
@@ImWatchingYou69 whos the best then?
name checks out
I think Brando Sando could do it.
“Metellus stood before the entrance, blocking Caesar’s path with his gigantic balls”
*cubes
He's called Metellus because he had balls of metal
@@bxzidffbxzidff you’ve heard of stonewall jackson
Now get ready for stone-ball metellus
@@bxzidffbxzidff dude couldn't leave Rome, because his balls would weigh down the ship.
Metellus should be given the title of the Last Roman. This is the only time in history he is mentioned ever and he does not even have a wikipedia page, but he is one that truly deserves it.
"One day I'm gonna make a video that breaks down the phrase, *Caesar Marched on Rome* " - HC
You've finally delivered.
What episode was that??
What time does he break it down?
Thanks
Steven Nguyen I hope you're joking.
I get it... now.
I think things are gonna work out okay for this Caeser guy.
Susan he gets assassinated a short time later. Spoiler
Somebody missed it by a mile
Yeah well he lived on shhh the Julio Claudian dynasty
@@Cat-kq5qg whoosh and a half
Mostly so...
"What I remember about the rise of the Imperium is... how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Gallic Wars, the XIII Legion was discreetly transferred back to Rome. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not when we crossed the Rubicon, not when we entered Rome, and not when we marched into the Senate´s Curia. Not a word..."
god I love this comment. best game ever!
Ok, but the thing is you're talking Star Wars to reference Rome, whereas Star Wars was referencing Rome when when it talked about the fall of the old republic. You have a sort of circular, chicken and the egg type of thing going on here where Rome is Coruscant, which is Rome, which is Coruscant, which is Rome, ad infinitum.
@@morgancasalribeiro9809 which game?
Tamal Paul it's Star Wars prequel quote
@@anoriolkoyt star wars battlefront 2
Labienus: eh, everything will be alright in Rome
Morgan Freeman: Everything would not be alright in Rome
It seems that the HBO Rome series skipped a lot of the actual history. Thanks for the info.
They really didn't have much choice in their defense. They thought they were making many seasons, and only last second told they had only two. They cut out massive amounts of writing and history to fit to their schedule and budget.
@@SorceressWitch it's still the best tv production about that period ever made and it does manage to capture the essential of the roman civil war.
I only watch this because it's entertaining. It makes me more and more interested in history whether it's about Romans or Americans etc etc
It would take 20 seasons just to accurately tell the stories of alexander the great, Julius caesar, napolean bonaparte, genghis khan, attilla the hun,
It was a good fiction series and more accurate than I expected from them. If just they had more seasons to go ..
Nothing cures intense heartbreak more than an upload from Historia Civilis (:
Enpherdaen i feels You Bro
still hurts a year on! have a good day
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Chin up bro.
You mean as Caesar turned against the Republic
Rome: The senate said not to cross the river with an army
Caesar: I am the senate
Pompey: Not yet.
*Ceasar shoots lightning at Pompey*
Cesar: UNLIMITEED POWAAAAAAAR!
Literally lol!
Labienus: I will go to Rome and join Pompey!
Caesar: It's treason, then.
Does that make Ptolemy XIII Anakin?
Fun Fact: Domitius Ahenobarbus was the direct ancestor of emperor Nero.
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@@sasukeuchiha998 Sigh... Guys, this is your brain on Kinoko Nasu (weird oriental mushroom). Not even once.
@@sasukeuchiha998 Quality shitpost, but wrong Nero.
@@Prich319 Thanks.
Ah, I thought so. I believe he's Nero's grandfather and a true chariot racer. I think he would become seriously injured from it, unless I'm confusing him for Nero's father.
You've lost Rome without unsheathing your sword. YOU'VE LOST ROME!!!
A TACTICAL RETREAT
I love you guys
This is not a humiliating defeat at all but some rare species of Victory.
"Rome". Outstanding Series. The reason Game of Thrones got made.
@@dondodr Sadly its more like Game of Thrones is the reason Rome got cancelled. 😔
Labienus was a tribune of the pleb in 63 BCE, when Cicero was consul and unfoiling the second catalinarian conspiracy. Remember that video where you spoke about a case Cicero defended someone accused for political reasons of a murder 30 years ago ? The accuser was Labienus. This action advanced his military career has he became a legate of Caesar as a reward. I believe Labienus experience as a member of the senate during the senatus consultum ultimum must have played a big role in his decisions during Caesar rebellion.
are we back with the hipster BCE? FFS!!!!
@@MarcoDM1571 you're getting way too worked up over semantics.
@@buckplug2423 it's very likely... :-)
damn I love how everything is connected
@@buckplug2423 Changing BC to BCE is getting too worked up over semantics.
I know this isn't the first time you've used the spinning squares to depict confusion or laziness, but it gets me chuckling every time
I can't avoid thinking of legionnaires dropping their weapons and uncontrollably spinning where they stand when I see those squares like that.
Square battles for breakfast viewing
Great to find you here stone! Been a fan since old season 2 jungling videos
lol damn, big fan of your channel!
You're out of luck my friend, no actual battles this time.
stonewall008
Damn stonewall I didn't know you had such good taste.
Drunk dinner viewing for me.
It's rather bizarre that Pompey and the senate did not take Rome's treasury along with them while in fleeing Italy. He simply boarded it up, and left? He didn't expect Caesar to raid it despite knowing that Caesar lacked the capital to maintain the army?
V Guyver what this lad said
You understand how pedantic you're being, right?
HC said in the video it was Rome's treasury.. Before today what I knew is that Caesar looted Rome's sacred treasures, many of which were of religious significance and had moral value to the identity of Rome, hence it isn't something that could ever leave the city. That treasure and relics or whatever they were belonged to no one and Pompey couldn't just take them with him, because it was expected that no one would touch them, not even Caesar.
Things are always unclear aren't they..
V Guyver They did, but Titus Pullo intersected them and hid it for Caesar
think Cicero, who has since proved to be a liar, said that. evidence shows he took the main treasury. it should be noted that the Optimates had sworn repeatedly that it was virtually empty, so maybe people believed them?/also, there were actually elected people in charge of it, and they all fled, including the consuls. another note, one of Ceasars actually points of popularity was in actually efficiently running things whenever he was in charge ( Calendar corrections, stopping Usury, actually holding elections on time).This whole daring him to fight and not having a plan and not taking the Treasury when you FLEE The COUNTRY! kinda undercuts the Boni's position as defenders of the republic.
This series is more exciting than Game of Thrones, and has spinning squares to boot.
true dat
After season 8, watching paint dry is more exciting than Game of Thrones.
@Andrew Brovan Yeah, on the classic
"It is easier to find men who will volunteer to die, than to find those who are willing to endure pain with patience." - Julius Caesar
Nothing like watching a bunch of square fighting each other for the control of Italy and determined the history of humankind.
@@microchip9982 English too
you know it's a great day when Historia Civilis uploads
This series is a gift from the gods
We need to make sacrifice
Iason29 the goat intestines reveal a good omen!
Turmunhk Ganba Less talking, more raiding!
Which gods did you pleased? Sometimes they can get jealous, becareful!
Saguntum-Iberian-Greek Konstantinopoli the gods that don't sit back while people burn forever for dissent
Upon rewatching this series over and over again only now do I realize how smart Cicero is.
He was obnoxious, selfcentered, and sometimes even rude
But he had a great intellect, and even more important (at least in my opinion) he was honest and always direct (wich is part of the reason of why he could end up being rude)
A great guy honestly
@@Leo-ok3ujThese three first could describe pretty much every roman senator though 😁.
When I am watching these videos, I am always blown away at the logistics that must have been involved, and which don't get much detail. Consider what would really have been involved in Caesar getting gold from the Temple of Saturn out to his men in Gaul. Along these lines, also consider Caesar's crafty move in trying to block the harbour to prevent Pompey's escape. Here is a man who has spent all his life thinking hard, and cataloguing his ideas into processes and playbooks. Did any of the knowledge of this survive? Or did he deliberately omit it, in a spirit of sprezzatura?
You know what else I wonder- how much of Caesar’s action were deliberately and meticulously planned out how much was just seat of the pants pragmatism that worked because Caesar was such a genius
It would probably help if you read The Civil War by Caesar himself. It's slanted, yes, but it is his justification.
I think about this too. Every time anyone travels, any time there's a meeting, I think about how long it took for people to get to it. What the scheduling was like. When mail intercepts someone on the road, how did that happen?!
@@joshuahutchings558 as they say, all roads lead to Rome. Probably an exaggeration, but it would make it easy to know what roads a person would take to and from the city.
@cratuki TOTALLY agree....Caesars fortifications at Alesia....his bridging of the Rhine River....the attempted blocking of the port at Brundisium....THESE are the actions of a man with an iron will who Will Not Stop, who believes that Anything is possible and is willing to work towards it....
I think Caesar understood the capabilities of his legions (not just in terms of combat but in terms of Building things) better than his opponents....
I think he had a better grasp of engineering as well....he wasn't a luxury loving aristocrat.,...
the rich pigs just couldn't keep up with him
....if only he'd been successful at Brundisium it's possible many Roman lives could have been spared with Pompey DEAD
The stream of conscience of Labienus is hilarious. :-)
Kings and Generals Seriously love your videos!
It's Fine. Everything's Fine. Well everything was not fine.
Two of my fav channels here haha hello Nurrik aka Kings and General
The dude should of stayed with ceasar
You and Historia should colab.
"the sinews of war are infinite money"
Should we take the treasury with us? nah - Cicero
actually I'm really curious as to why Cicero did not take the Roman Treasury.
they didnt expected caesar to take it either,it was kind of "sacred" treasury of rome.not the sume of private wealth of citizens,or state owned money.
historical artifacts with significance to the roman population,more than piles of coins, they just happened to be made from gold and gems and other valuable stuffs. the roman treasury was more like a museum to the glory of rome and the early years of the republic,never to be spended.
@@64standardtrickyness - What Iñigo says: conservatives just don't expect the unexpected, Caesar just had to do the unexpected, that's why he won.
On the other hand, he should have been more implacable, he might have survived to old age and founded a dynasty or something. He was too much of a gentleman, too soft.
@@LuisAldamiz too conservative, even for a reformist
@French Jesus - He was "sorta leftist" in the context of Rome, a social reformer and a heir in many aspects of Marius and the Gaius bros. He was of course more concerned about his own political career, and at times very physical survival, and he was pretty much merciless re. foreign peoples (not always, he did value mercy and he praised Crassus the Younger for exercising it in Aquitaine, but still...)
No social reformer in Rome (or in general in Antiquity) even considered slavery an issue, social conflict was about plebeians vs patricians, slaves were not considered, except by slaves themselves such as Spartacus.
Friendship ended with Labienus, now Antonius is my best friend.
#FriendReplacement
#bringjuliusandlabienusbacktogether
*MS PAINT*
High school all over again
Labius
I truly respect how you continuously reference and mention Labienus and his importance not only in the Gallic wars but his role during the Civil War that followed.. So many other sources gloss over his importance and give far too much credence to Marc Anthony.
Was Antony even mentioned at all in this series before the "Caesar Crosses the Rubicon" episode?
HC also has a clear anti Caesarian bias though, so it makes sense that he would discount Antony. I love his videos, but he has a clear bias and doesn’t hide it and because of that, he is much harsher on the Caesarian faction and Caesar than I feel is fair or accurate.
@@princeofgreece9054 Agreed, the moment your opinion plays a part in your tell, it's no longer a recount of historical fact, but storytelling. Which clearly works for youtube. But the bias is there. Also, history remembers the "Great Roman Empire", you can ask anyone on the street what they know about Rome and the first thing they will tell you is that it was an Empire. I am sure some people will even laugh in your face if you tell them the city of Rome still exists. We don't remember the "Great Roman Republic" do we? And we owe that in great measure to Caesar.
He outmaneuvered everyone in the military and politics and was a great leader, his troops loved him, that does not happen to idiots, incompetents, or unloyal leaders.
Who would win: A republic with hundreds of years of military tradition or one governy boi?
Well when you put it like that...
Who would win?
The most experienced and intelligent general in history
Or some offended conservatives?
Parthian Capitalist Pompey is nothing to scoff at
Who would win
A volcano or a...
Salad
@@max4750 He isn't, but to say Caesar isn't better would be sort of ridiculous considering outcome, especially considering resources. With equal resources, Caesar wouldn't have even made it close. He might not be the greatest general ever, but he should be in the top 10 greatest generals ever at least.
never knew romans were rectangles. evolution has gone a long way in 2000 years :O
Ah, but Romans are actually squares. Legions are a group of squares arranged into rectangles.
You ever wonder how they made those busts when they were just squares?
One of history’s greatest mysteries
Worked for Gumby and the blockheads.
@@Lithane97 Actually, the soldiers are hiding behind those Xs inside the square. A variation on the Trojan Horse gambit. How do you think Rome won so many battles? You will notice that Cavalry only have one line to hide behind. That's because horses are harder to hide.
They were squares, when gathered in large groups they became rectangles.
"Someday I'll spend an entire video deconstructing the words 'Caesar marches on Rome'"
- Historia Civilis, 2016
Hữu Duyệt Bùi ikr I saw this in my subscriptions and I shed a small tear and whispered “he finally did it...”
Why would he deconstruct this? I think I'm missing something...
Trexmaster12 previous video in 2016, also on the topic of 49 BC ceasar vs pompey:
pharsalus
(events in greece after the end of this video)
he says at the beginning:
someday i'll deconstruct the words caesar marches on rome.
I actually though this was it th-cam.com/video/SYxN134gb-8/w-d-xo.html
Caesar shipping his stuff to Labienus is touching to me. Even though his friend choose to stand against him, he didn't take any of Caesar legions. Caesar while he might feel something, pack all Labienus and sent to him feel like a declaration "You and I are now stranger, the next time we met would be truly so"
Spoiler
Caesar giving him a proper burial to show respect was touching too.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 - He clearly was a true (ruthless) gentleman.
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Your grammar sucks
@@LuisAldamizHe was renowned even in his time for sparing most of his Roman enemies. He definitely put the reputation of Sulla to shame. I'd say if Labienus had came back to Rome and asked for forgiveness, Caesar likely would've pardoned him.
Labienus: you were the chosen one Caesar! You were supposed to save the republic not leave it in darkness!
Caesar: I HATE YOU!!! (not really)
*burns*
@@herpyderpy2869 burns? More like
*politely hands Labienus all of his shit*
Can't wait for the Ceasar's legion takes over hoover dam episode!
I came; I viewed; I liked
Nice.
Veni, vidi, vici
It was only a matter of time before you showed up haha.
Stephen you’re a simple man
Veni, vidi, amavi
he deconstructed the words finally
yes he did.
He did that before in his Caesar crosses the Rubicon video
What do you mean?
He said in one of his videos, I think it was about Pharsalus, that one day he would spend an entire video deconstructing the words "Caesar marched on Rome". And finally, the madman, he did 😁
Are Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo mentioned?
V. Athanasiou Pullo joined Pompey. Vorenus isn't further mentioned.
thirteen!
As far as I remember, their stories end in Gaul. After their saving of each other they aren't mentioned any more. But it's some time since I read up on them.
Nope. They were not in this video.
V. Athanasiou Καταλήγει ενοχλητικό αλλά πάλι σε βρήκα λολ
Senate: Lay down your arms Caesar and return to Rome!!!
Caesar: I can't hear you over the sound of my legions marching......
Caesar will have absolute victory if the courier gives him the platinum chip.
PLease, go back to your game, you know nothing of history.
True to Caesar!
Mac McCoy what game?
@@crunch9876 Fallout: New Vegas
@@spyrojyro7202 THE REPUBLIC WILL NEVER YIELD
LONG LIVE THE BEAR!!
Haha I discovered your channel 2 days ago and was like what what happens after rubicon, searched and watched most of you videos and voila! Here it is... this channel is truly amazing and this series is just phenomenal
Hippity Hoppity Women are Property Yeah I feel you now! Already re-watching videos
Good man Julius for sending Labineus's stuff back with him
Excellent work. But I think that you sould mention another reason that made Labienus abandon Caesar. That he was born in Picenum, a region that was controlled by the Pompeian family, and that his patron was probably Pompey himself. I think that there is no need to mention how important was the relationship between patrons and clients in ancient Rome and what obligations both had to eachother.
True, Labienus was a Pompey's client, he served with Caesar because the latter owed him a reward for service rendered when labienus was a tribune!
Also his team was playing in Rome that weekend - couldn't miss the big game.
He was Pompey's man before he was Caesar's.
Pompey was also Caesar's patron as Caesar's family was equestrii and thus below the senatorial rank. Caesar's only living, natural child, his daughter was married to Pompey and it was only after her death that he moved against Pompey.
@@admontblanc Caesar was not born an Eques, while their star was fading, he was born in Senate ranked family. His father was governor of Asia Minor, but never made Consul. His uncle was Gaius Marius. It was Pompey's father that first attained a senatorial rank in their family. Julia was married to Pompey in order to keep their coalition together after Crassus' death in Parthia. She died while Caesar was still in Briton. It was not the reason that Caesar moved against Pompey. Caesar moved against Rome, but Pompey chose to be the general of the Senators.
That ending was a better cliffhanger than most TV series lol
I want you to know that I recently (last few days) discovered your channel and have subsequently watched the entirety of your content in chronological order.
Please continue the highly dramatic and fascinating story of Julius Caesar’s rise to power.
You have done a fantastic job in describing the political machinations and personal motivations.
Keep up the fantastic work.
Labienus:"Caesar you can't just cross the Rubicon"
Caesar:"Yes i can and i'm going to march on Rome"
Labienus:"Caesar no"
Caesar:"CAESAR YES! CAESAR ALWAYS YES!"
CHKrieg Tchaicaesarsky? Caesarkovsky? Tchaikovcaesar?
Maybe Caesar would like to explain it, as if you were explaining it to a barbarian.
CHKrieg Labienus: well come back to say goodbye
Caesar: yes daddy
Labienus: ohh Caesar this is amazing!
Caesar: Et tu pater
Cicero: the FUCK
0:00 Ceaser Marches South. Labienus was a great Roman General
2:11 Ceaser respected Labienus, but did not consult with Labienus
3:18 CEASER YOU TRAITOR
4:32 Cicero on Labienus
5:31 War Hawks squak
7:35 Brutus pledged loyalty to Rome, against his heart for Ceaser
9:20 Mark Antony
11:08 Ceaser pardons Demitius
11:56 Ceaser has the numbers. Pompey retreats to Southern Italy
14:34 Ceaser needs money to pay his legions. Ceaser takes their silence as approval.
15:23 Atellus continues to Veto, but steps aside and Ceaser takes The Treasury
16:15 Armies to The West and East. The Spanish Legions were the immediate threat
who's this ceaser fella you keep talking about?
Labienus: Ceasar, my allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy!
Renz Manzano Rome wasn’t really a democracy though
Its a star wars quote.
Ummm, that's a big no to democracy... The Republic was never a democracy.
Mac McCoy Ironically it was more democratic than most "democracies"
It's over...I have the high ground 😂
Never forget that this is Cato's fault.
Cato❌
That dark blue square✅
Legitimately, your channel has top tier content. You are what "The History Channel" aspired to be once. You deliver consistent, too notch content, with ELI5 language that keeps people entertained and inteteswd. I've learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the great job. Cheers
All because of Cato. Smh
Don't blame Cato
L Daniel yes it was
@@MM-eo2oz Why do you support such a brash coward?
Cato was a fucking idiot
Cato was crying because caesar was taking his sisters cheeks.
YES MORE PLEASE!
DONT TAKE TOO LONG PLEASE I MISS YOUR VIDEOS ABOUT THE ROMANS
Labienus: Friendship ended with Caesar. Now the senate is my best friend.
La Benis :DDD
İts dreason den
But Caesar IS the Senate
This series is probably the best thing going on on TH-cam right now. Please upload everyday and make your videos 24 hours long, thank you
Caesar: "I see through the lies of the senate, I have brought peace, Freedom, and Security to my new empire."
Labinus: "You're new empire?"
Caesar: "don't make me kill you."
Labinus: "Casar my alliance is to the republic to Democracy."
Gotta say it in Obi Wanese, like this: DEMOCRACAAAAYY
Nice, but I think its "allegiance" not "alliance"
Caesar: I am new empire
Caesar: *OPEN. THE TREASURY. STOP HAVING IT BE BOARDED UP.*
Metellus: n-no...I veto...
Caesar: *MOVE. OR DIE.*
Metellus: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (moves)
The actual quote I believe was ”you know its harder for me to issue threats than carry them out”.
Which has to be up there with the most badass ways to threaten someone.
I don't know why I read your quote in a bill wurtz voice.
+Salvation Games Because the first part is so similar, it's practically an ad libbed quote.
The storytelling in this one really shines, I think it's your best episode! Absolutely amazing stuff!
I'm confused. When does he get to the Hoover Dam?
Randomly discovered this channel last week, subscribed, and binge watched. Great work consolidating all this and telling the story. Please never stop.
This series is fantastic! Truly brilliant, don't let the simplistic animation fool you, the entire series of videos is packed full of serious detail and excellent all round whilst also thoroughly in depth historical coverage! Absolutely superb work!
You have no idea what your videos mean to me. I discovered them in the most difficult time of my life and they helped me hang on.
Top 10 anime betrayals:
No. Ten: Labienus
No. Nine: Brutus
Eh, it wasn't really a betrayal, Labinus didn't abuse Caesar's trust.
No. Fifteen: Burger King Foot Lettuce
+Spiffy Brit Single Family Tree Letuce (referencing Ramdom Týpek's Google Translate playlist)
So... basically you guys read Kentaro Muira’s Berserk.
Caesar: I want the gold
Senators: The senate is against this
Caesar: I *AM* The SENATE!
You know there are many history series on TH-cam now, but this is my favourite. The details just makes it so much better. Other shows have the stuff you know already anyway, here we get the details which are always glossed over
Can't believe you skipped the absolutely BOSS response that Caesar gave to Metellus and you decided to just blandly resume it:
After Metellus kept hindering Caesar from the treasure, Caesar turned to him and said "One more disturbance and I'll put you to death. And this, as you know young man, is more of a pain for me to say than to do", and with such a line Metellus finally withdrew for good.
That isn't boss at all that is just being power hungry and denying sometime if their rights, when was that ever cool ?
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu Yeah, not sure why we’re glorifying a warlord who just illegally took over the entire Roman treasury, a feat he accomplished only by thrreatening death to a Roman politician.
@@zekedia2223 Military history buffs often have a tendency to romanticize the great commanders to the extent of becoming fans that are blind to any of their flaws. As a result you get posts like that one one where an event that really doesn't reflect favorably on Caesar at all is being celebrated as "so cool."
@@lycaonpictus9662 Both of you are misinterpreting what I said. I didn't glorify anyone nor pass judgement on any of Caesar's actions besides one: the remark he made to Metellus. Nor did I say anything about the event itself or how it reflected on Caesar either. The only statement I made was that, for me, the response Caesar gave to Metellus was a boss ass response. I didn't say I agreed with Caesar's actions in general, I didn't say I like him, I didn't say shit about what I thought of him, I only said: that was a great line and a great way to persuade him to move without wasting breath and Metellus' life while it would've been much easier to just kill him on the spot. Thank you
Will you ever do videos on the 3rd century crisis period? Like Aurelian's reunification of the Empire, which earned him the title 'Restitutor Orbis' (Restorer of the World). I think that would be a cool series, because it's a period not so well known as Caesar, Augustus, Antony et al.
Man, that's an excellent suggestion! I hope he does.
Paulo Ugolini Seconded!
5 years
Man i love this series, can’t wait for the next episode, and to see how it goes in Spain :)
Spoiler: Ceasar wins
From this documentary i saw years ago Caesar had a hellish time in Spain with fighting being hard and still not paying his troops. In the end one of his legions mutinied and he was forced to decimate. By the time he ended up bringing the fight to Pompey in Greece his troops were still not payed....just think about that...what are you gonna do when not being paid for like 10 years..
+Ken Dring
You can check out Caesars memoirs of the trip to Spain: th-cam.com/video/Lz-wu8Vxeqk/w-d-xo.html
lason29, that documentary you saw was bullshit. In Spain, he defeated Pompey legions in a month(if i remember corectly). And his troopa didnt mutinied there....and he didnt decimated them
Gianluca B Haha i know that. Just the details and the way Its presented here. Its perfect.
Ahh a lovely Saturday morning with the squares and some coffee. Perfection! Also that fabulous rainbow text? We're getting fancy up in here I see, keep it up my man :)
oWallis only thing better then that, coffee in a Historia Civilis mug.
Dane Bright I was drinking it in a Colonel Chamberlain mug from Gettysburg so it was history related at least.
oWallis you had early access to video?
Those rainbow letters are giving me flashbacks to Microsoft Word Art :D
dispatchnig vomitory yes you can get early access through his Patreon :)
you guys keep it simple yet so accurate and precise. One can see the LOVE you have for history and I appreciate it a lot! This caesar-series is soo goood!
Wow, the “if in doubt, build a wall” strategy extends to Caesar’s naval strategy as well
Rome Newsreader: "Martial law is in effect for the safety of Rome. Groups of more than three shall not congregate in public spaces. A curfew is in effect. Any person found around the streets after dark shall be subject to summary judgement. Long live General Gaius Julius Caesar! Savior of our Republic."
The favourite of Venus, protector of the people :)
Hmmm! The fascist law in the 30!
Gaius _hand motion_ Julius _hand motion_ Caesar
TRUE ROMAN BREAD FOR TRUE ROMANS
@Alex Berry There were two, plus the news reader. He said, "Groups of more than three shall not congregate."
I’m sure that if you’re watching this, there is about a 99% chance that you already know about the HBO series “Rome”. But if I can alert even one person to this absolutely incredible yet oft overlooked masterpiece of a series, it’s all worth it. The first season is among the best TV ever, and the second season is also extremely good, even though they only found out mid season that the show was just too expensive and wouldn’t be renewed for a third season. The creators then had to cram their planned 2-4 seasons into just season 2. Season 5, which was gonna jump ahead to the Roman perspective of Jesus’ rise in Judea, had to be cancelled altogether. A huge shame. The show had the potential to be the best ever, but instead we got two great seasons. If only Game of Thrones had come before it and shown HBO that spending big money on an incredible show can absolutely be worth it.
Then you might find it interesting that GoT was made precisely, only because Rome was made first :) HBO noticed what you said at the end and voila - we got an amazing adaptation of the books till there was something to adapt and hilarious comedy starting from season 6 :)
Btw. I cannot overstate how amazing Rome is and I can't believe I slept on it for so long - watched it first time last year and holy shit, that's some good HBO series on par with Band of Brothers, The Wire or Sopranos.
I find it odd that you say we should take Labienus at his word and then immediately claim that Caesar had ulterior motives for everything he did.
That's a good way to put it. You don't have to love to Caesar, but it's so weird how optimates are taken at their word, even though they are the ones who are breaking the law all the damn time and made it into a habit to kill their political opponents.
I normally am of the side of Caesar (given the Visigoths centuries later I totally think the Germans attacked first, but HS is right that even if that is true detaining their ambassadors was over the line), but we don't know much about Labienus to say if he should be taken for his word or not. I don't see why we can't take them at face value until we know anything about his personality.
Caesar rebelled because he would be persecuted if Pompey had it his way. The whole ordeal was shady since the very beginning. Caesar was as guilty as Pompey.
@@cogithefool4284 It's a strange case where everybody involved is super self-serving and pretty much doing everything for their own gain.
I find it more the case that we have every reason to doubt everything Caesar says, because history shows us he was a liar and would stop at nothing to get what he wanted. While with Labienus, we have little written sources that give us insight to his thought processes, so why make more assumptions than neccessary?
Even when i already know the ending, im really still in suspense. Good job Historia Civilis.
Wacthing this again and just loving Caesar's stand. He's not just clear-sighted, he's sharp and funny. I love that madman (at least the way you narrate his story).
the excitement of watching a story unfold..with spinning colored bricks...
It's weird. I disagree with caesar, and even after reading about it, watching this and so on... I still love caesar and stay at his side
Lovely villain.
Also his enemies are all a bunch of jerks, with the partial exception of Cicero.
That’s why all his legions practically worshiped him
Promises the poor everything they want. Opposed by conservatives. Uses the combined support of the army and the poor to nullify the republic. He's basically Hugo Chavez.
(...if Chavez was a brilliant general who had successfully invaded Columbia before taking over Venezuela.)
@@clawsoon Natural to root for the underdog. One personality vs "the senate" "the republic"
"and walked north" - casually walking to the south-eastern part of Italy
bro..fantastic job .i can listen to you all day long.your series is really exciting and your narrating amazing,you deserve my respect and subscription
Seriously one of the best channels on TH-cam. You, phillyD and the slow mo guys are the only 3 channels i watch every video and am excited when they upload. Keep up the good work, i hope this channel keeps growing because your content is fantastic and well researched, you deserve TH-cam fame.
What about the contributions of Biggus Dickus during this troublesome period? Can you make an episode on him?
Incontinentia wants her family private.
You're probably thinking of Biggus Dickus Ater, his father. Biggus Dickus himself didn't start his political career until way into Augustus' time.
These Caesar videos are my favorites
*Sips coffee*
Reuben A Sipping intensifies
*Gulps coffee anxiously
Best history channel on TH-cam. I wish there were more like this that covered more history than Rome. Brilliant stuff
God, this is like the best slow burn ever. This stuff is so interesting! Your content is great man, keep it up!
To quote the great Roman general Labienus at 2:35, "!!!"
11:20 Caesar treats openly hostile romans WAY BETTER than neutral Gauls
8:39 Without bothering to consult with Pompey, Domitius *played Doodle Jump up the street*
man.. keep on with the coolest videos of all time... you'r following the right path
Immediately watched as soon as I saw it, great video, one of my favorite channels on TH-cam.
The general defending the city was an idiot, no wonder they defect.
When using a city to defend a position you need to evacuate it first and stack it up with food so you can outlive your enemy, leaving citizens inside is stupid.
Not only they will eat your food but they will defect and even bribe your own soldiers for all kinds of favors which reduces discipline and loyalty among your army.
but then the citizen may not want to leave, for fear that their house may be looted by the soldier (both under Ahenobarbus and Ceasar). Yes, there's a chance of mass killing, but this is a Roman army: that chance won't be as high as, say, a Gallic or Carthaginian one.
@@oldrabbit8290 once your army is in the city, the citizen does not have a choice. Send him with his valuables away while buy all his food and give him some promises after the war is over as a compensation. Lock his house and restrain your men from looting, it is not hard to do.
Keeping them in the city is bad both for the citizens and the army, and most citizens under decent conditions would love to stay away from battles/sieges.
@@jeffvella9765 generally, inside the wall is safe, while outside the wall is not.. after all, what is the purpose of a wall, if you gonna kick everyone out when the enemy approach?
1. once your army is in the city, the citizen does not have a choice: true that. but then again, his political rival can use the fact that the general denied the population the protection of the wall (at swordpoint no less) to kill his career, and it won't make him any friend either.
2. Send him with his valuables away while buy all his food: as if wandering outside the wall is not dangerous enough for unarmed citizen, now you want them to be burdened with valuables while left them with no food. I mean, what's the worst can happen to them? - outside of bandit and enemy's foraging parties, of course.
3. Lock his house and restrain your men from looting, it is not hard to do: many battles had been lost because one's soldiers decided to loot the enemy camp instead of, I don't know, joining the battle. So it's actually quite hard. And that's a battle. A siege could last for months, and your army must be spread thin to fully cover the entire wall. What's the chance that some soldiers slip out in the night, break into an unguarded house, and grab whatever they like?
civilians in war zone is always bad, but it's the kind of problem you just have to deal with. And while most citizens will try to get away of combat, they are still much safer inside the wall, instead of outside. Unarmed. On foot. Carry valuables. And with no food.
@@oldrabbit8290 during civil wars, the area where the wars are happening have 0 bandits because they would be captured and slaughtered by the armies, the bandits happen away from where the battles/sieges are happening because all soldiers are busy in the wars instead of patrolling. This is pretty much basic knowledge and demonstrates that you did not do your homework before making such invalid points.
1. by kicking out the citizens you are doing them a favor of giving them a choice to not get involved, which is the best option for the citizen, no citizen in his right mind would not accept it, and no he would not join his rival when he has the option to not get involved. That is stupid and only happens with a kind of bribe from the rival which in that case you would want them out of the city instead of inside the city anyway.
2 You send them with enough food for the journey to the next city, I meant all their extra food in their house is bought and not sequestrated, to incentivize them to not get involved. Also so their house is not looted in case of a long siege.
3. what would they grab in a house which have no valuables that they can carry without being caught by their commander?
All the food has been bought already, the small valuables that can be carried like jewelry etc.., was taken away.
Unless the city falls by the enemy their house should be safe.
If it falls and the rival looted the city anyway, then at least they saved their lives and did not get involved, thus avoid persecution. Also the rival does not have the right to lay claim to the citizens land by accusing them of siding with his rival, which allows the citizens to retain ownership of their house/land with less difficulty.
It is really the best of a difficult situation that usually leads to death by choosing a side that loses a battle/siege and most citizens would come to that conclusion, only you seem oblivious to this.
Seriously you think it would be safe/better to leave your family inside a city that will be sieged (and probably starved to death in the worse case) if you had the option to move them to a city which is not going to be sieged?
@@jeffvella9765 yes, because spreading your force to patrol and hunt down bandit - while the enemy is close by and could attack you at any moment - is a stellar idea.
and how can you "captured and slaughtered" all the bandit in such a short amount of time anyway? it's not like bandits have to attack anything that moves, especially when that "thing" is a heavily armed soldier. Could they just, idk, hide and avoid direct confrontation, let the soldiers pass, then prey on the civilian - which is a much better target in every sense. If hunting down bandit is that easy, then why banditry is even a problem to begin with? Could you just, idk, move your force to a region, slaughter them all, then move to next, slaughter them all, and so on until you have completely exterminated all the bandit in your kingdom?
and this isn't even considered the enemy scouts and foraging parties.. or greedy soldiers in your own rank..
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