Well did you catch the fact that she DID NOT PAY INTO THIS. Her government pension means that she did not contribute 6.2% of her gross salary into Social Security. And now after the fact, she wants Social Security.
@@jeeperjeff70 she wants to draw survivor benefits based on her husbands social security. that makes sense everyone else gets that even if they didnt pay in
Social Security has being depleted. It wasn't well designed to start with. You can thank the Billionaires that created the industries , jobs that produced income so you could contribute to IRA 401k and SS.
Publicly traded companies are primarily structured to remove wealth from consumers and transfer it to upper management & shareholders by providing goods / services with the lowest labor / commodity cost possible. Each quarter companies demand more & give less, in the name of shareholder profits. Billionaires are making bank off of the millions of people earning between 10k-25k a year. Our federal minimum wage cannot keep a person housed, clothed & fed, bcz billionaires are addicted to squeezing every penny out of the businesses their familial wealth has given them. This is also the reason social security is teetering on the brink. The current cap has been kept artificially low for decades by these same billionaires that decided $7 an hour is enough 'trickle'. The 10% of US citizens that already hold the most wealth also own 85% of the stock market. That leaves the other 90% of us squabbling over the 15% of shares they're dangling before us. No thank you. I prefer not to be the reason "low income" workers are being denied breaks & raises.
@GreggWalken-xd3qv Hilarious. You forgot *insert awkward elon musk laugh* at the end. You guys really need to stop using the same tired joke. It's like you guys collectively use one brain.
Ok, let's tax the rich at 100%...THAT will cure the problem, right? How many jobs have YOU created, Mr. Nobody? What would be the incentive to start businesses when those people would be taxed to DEATH? Oh, but THAT'S ok. You liberal empty-heads need to go move to a socialist country. It's the fault of the GOVERMENT, when they use our tax dollars for frivolous programs, instead of putting the funds where they will do the most good. Wise up.
Time to pass this bill. This law is ridiculous. I was a cop for 18 years and my dad was for 34 years We paid into pensions. And we worked other jobs that paid into SS.. .but what we earned in SS is reduced because we were cops with a pension??? WTF is that? Only asking for what I earned / paid into SS like everybody else. Shame on us for working multiple jobs and contributing to society. Cannot believe this law was ever enacted in the first place.
That’s right. I was a FF for 30 years but prior to that I worked 13 years at a job that paid into SSA. And now I only get 40% of what I should be getting from SSA.
@@nicstevens6499 The law was to prevent people from receiving the welfare calculation meant for low wage earners that pay into Social Security for more than 30 years. Why should you receive the same calculation for paying into Social Security for 10 or so years?
@@shamalama29 That is ridiculous... Hopefully they can get this passed. My last memories of Biden can be him passing this law and not the total mess he's overseen the past 4 years...
If you don't pay into social security then you shouldn't receive social security. If you paid into a pension then that's what you get. The widow should receive survivor benefits from her husband. He paid in.
@@mimib.3591 we're facing another government shut down, they're sending more money to ukraine. and you want your money? who wants their money, you and the mouse in your pocket? its over, there is no money!!!!
THAT'S WHAT SHE IS SAYING. Glad you agree she should get 'survivor's' benefits. Won't last long....not with what elon-the-oligarch and king trump are planning.
I've PAID into Social Security for 10 years and have my 40 quarters. Yet, because of the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset, Social Security told me that my offset is 100 per cent! Even at age 70! I'm not getting so much as one penny from the money I paid into the system! How's that for a slap in the face, a punch in the gut, and a swift kick in the you-know-what?!
I’m in the same case like you retired from the state government and drawing pension benefits from California, I paid into social security before working for the state and after retirement from the state. My employer exempt from participating into social security, but I have over 10 years of private sector employment and received statements from social security after 62 years old I’ll get $450 per month that’s 6 more years away. But I’ll wait and see if social security will pay me that little money. Either way if social security denied paying me because of my 6K per month after taxes state pension, really not a big deal they can keep their money
@@chuckxu5910 Welcome to the club. At least you're getting something. I'm getting nothing after paying 10 years into that government-controlled Ponzi scheme called Social Security.
Me too I worked in the public sector and private sector and contributed into both systems and earned my Social security income yet get penalized because I get a pension. It's taxation without representation
@@michaelmorris9546 Not rightly hers due to the rules she knew all along RE people on Govt pensions . How much is her 33 year pension ?? Where was that question ??
@@AAWGASHTADSright. Those who don’t get a government pension, just social security, paid into their pensions with our taxes. We can’t claim theirs either. That’s why they have the windfall elimination.
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. People getting S.S $$ when they haven't paid into it. It's INFURIATING. This is what depletes the funds for those who ACTUALLY DESERVE THEM.
My teacher retirements are completely free of social security. However, I worked a lot of part time jobs over the years. Even having a second full time job for a little over a year, and I definitely paid into SS on those jobs. So should I at least get that money back?
The “windfall provision” calculates how much ss you get if you have a government pension + ss work. It can be a lot less than someone who made the same total amount of ss wages because the govt gives low wage workers a boost so they can survive. Like if you made $5k for 10 years you would get less ss than a person who made the same amount but doesn’t have a state pension.
What you get, is the average income over 40 "quarters" of employment. How much you made during that time, is also taken into consideration. Your "teacher" pension should have helped you , because you belonged to a Teacher's Union, correct? You state you worked a "second full-time job for a little over a year", do you have your pay stubs to see how much you actually paid into S.S.? I guarantee, it wasn't as much as you think.
How is this money stolen from you when you never contributed to social security?? You contributed to your pension through your government job and never into social security. If you lived in NY where you pay into your pension and social security then you are entitled to both without any penalty. This story is so one sided and doesn’t tell the whole story
Incorrect. Why should ANYONE get to double-dip? If that person received a pension, that money is payable for the rest of their life. You can't have your cake, and eat it too.
Social Security was never intended to enrich people that already have a good retirement. This bill does not help the neediest and poorest social security recipients, rather it is a windfall for folks that already have a much more generous government or private industry retirement. The ONLY reason Republicans are going along with this is because it will defund Social Security faster.
A friend of mine retired from her longtime job with LAUnified Schools, and throughout the years knew that she’d receive a pension and not full social security. I’m surprised that the principal wasn’t aware of that.
I also work for LAUSD but worked in another field covered by SS before then for about 17 years and will be docked Social Security by about 700 dollars less a month than I should get. The issue is really important in red states with no unions and lower pay and lower pensions, especially for mid career changers.
This seems very simple…if you and your employer are not paying 6.2% of your gross salary into Social Security then you don’t get Social Security benefits. If you and your employer were not contributing, then you don’t get money from the coffer you never added to.
You don’t get both. If she revoked her pension (that includes a full work history of not contributing 6.2% to SSA), then she could get survivor benefits from her deceased husband. Clearly, her pension must be more than that. PLEASE… give me the option of not having SSA take 6.2% of my gross, and let me invest that. But she took the extra salary and now wants SSA to give her money she never paid into… she’s a thief.
@@michaelmorris9546 Due to rules she knew all along . She's got a 33 year pension ( they won't tell us how much ) and she wants the SS $ too and that is NOT how it works
This isn't the situation for most people. Most are mid career changers who got their full 40 quarters and worked many years in SS covered field. Then when they switched, they are docked what their full SS benefits would have been,
Why were they ‘shut out’ of the program? Isn’t this what happens when two spouses who collect and one passes? The person with the largest benefit is what continues. Rather than get people riled up, why don’t you compare the two rather than just one side of the story.
This is odd that she didn’t know this and that others don’t. I worked as a state public servant for a few years and I was fully aware I was paying into a pension and they were not deducting social security. Which is why I did not want to make it a long term thing. When I went back to corporate, I let them take out the required taxes and rolled over my pension to my current 401k. State education jobs are great when you look at the job security and holiday/summer time off but is it worth it though?
She knew it . She's taking her shot and we are supposed to give her the $ . How much is her 33 year pension ?? They left that out . THAT is the reason she doesn't have a right to his SS
They didn’t pay into it. They got some cushy govt pension and want social security too. But they didn’t pay into social security when working for the government
Anybody that pays into Social Security should receive it but if you didn’t pay into it then why should you get it? I’m kind of confused. My husband and I both have Social Security if he dies, I cannot collect his Social Security. I can only collect mine, the higher of the two. So I would go down to just one Social Security income a month. I would just receive mine which I paid into for the 45 years that I worked. So I don’t understand why this woman who worked as a teacher and paid into a pension which she receives but did not pay into Social Security should receive her husband Social Security, when many spouses that both paid into Social Security cannot collect their deceased spouses Social Security.
It's not welfare, you have to or should have to pay into it to receive it. And the government should repay all money stolen from it. It is insurance, not welfare
So she's already getting a pension and never paid into soc security? She shouldn't get soc sec then. She has no right to it. Not the publics fault she squandered her money and never saved. Hell I wish I could go the majority of my life without paying into soc security!
Or getting that nice pension. Not all of us had that opportunity, besides the fact that I would NEVER work for ANY government entity, knowing that I would get money from a taxpayer-funded pension. THAT is so wrong in so many ways.
I knew this a long time ago, if you are in education, you pay into pension and do not get social security. If I thought I could double-dip I might have became a teacher...
If you paid in you should get benefits. If you havn't paid in then you shouldn't be getting benefits. If you have another retirement plan and you paid social security taxes you should get your full benefit. Nobody should have to pay taxes on Social Security benefits.
Biden voted for taxing SS benefits when he was a congressman, he was very proud of it at the time. He was the major instigator of that bill. He claimed seniors were getting rich off SS. 🙄
I’ve paid into social security for 43 years. They took my money and gave me credits to use in retirement. I also work for a government agency and will have a pension. I DESERVE EVERY PENNY FROM BOTH.
The theft of our S.S. money, has been going on for years (since LBJ was in office). Government just takes what they want. Maybe we should file a class action suit against the Federal government for GRAND THEFT.
Imagine how your life would have been if you wouldn't have sat in a chair 24 hours a day watching fox fake news. You might not have so many people laughing at you.
We pay for social security and we’re being told it’s gonna go bankrupt or it’s gonna get eliminated. We pay for health insurance and 90 percent of our damn claims get denied. We pay for house insurance and the moment you put in a claim you get Pennie’s on the thousands of dollars you’ve paid. We pay taxes on everything! Property, goods, federal, state, gas, you name it we f’en pay it! We send billions of tax payer dollars in aid to everyone in the world! Maybe it’s time to cut all of our taxes by 70 percent and letting other countries fend for themselves us Americans are fed up we’re tired of paying for pples 💩.
If you didn't contribute to social security, then they shouldn't receive a check. When I worked for the school system, I was told that you could contribute to social security as well. I only worked for about a year. There was more advancement in the public sector.
I was 39 when my husband died at 43. I lost half my household income but because I worked, I could not collect his social security. Government got to keep it. That is just wrong.
After my retirement from a government job, I worked for 15 years in private industry, but was still forced to pay into SS in the private sector. Well. if you are not going to give me the benefit, tell me again why the US GOVERNEMNT made me pay into it knowing full well I will not get the same benefits.
You get the same benefits, WEP makes sure you don't get the same welfare calculation that low wage workers received that have paid into Social Security for 30 or more years.
I'm curious if your W2 reflected whether you paid into SS or not. I would think it would say that each year if you paid into it. I would be pretty upset if I just didn't know that I paid into state funds and didn't know that meant I wasn't getting SS.
@@cyndimoring9389 You should check to see if your pension is tax exempt in your state. Every penny counts! You can go online to SS and view your work history. They will also give you an estimate of your benefits.
I owned a small business and paid the full SS amount. Like 12.4% plus my FICA. What do I get extra, surely no pension. I worked more hours than most. I had no buffer from when things went south like some have by working for someone else. I’m just joking. AllI want is what the Good Lord gives me. Nothing more, nothing less. My greatest joy is being able to bless others with my blessings. I’m happy
I’m surprised people don’t know about this law it’s been around for a long time too me what really stinks it was supported by both parties and it doesn’t effect the private sector if you retire from Exxon you get your full pension and full social security payments how is that right 🙄
The story is clipped to try and say she should be getting $2500 a month from SS. No, what they are trying to say is she should be allowed to receive survivor benefits which would be half of what her spouse received, which is probably more like $1500 maybe if that! Its not totally clear the truth of the story. I think possibly at the end she is saying she would have been better of with the SS system. Unclear. News just trying to stir the pot.
These people already have/had State or other Gov't pensions, so it would have been more clear & complete had the reporter shown how much/how long these "victims" contributed to Social Security for, if at all.
I worked and paid into S.S. 10 years then got my local Government job with the private pension for 27 years. Then I worked another 10 years paying into S.S. On my request for my S.S. I was penalized by almost 50% from $1700 down to $800. Why? If the Senate doesn't pass this legislation by the end of the month we will have to start all over again next year. Its B.S.
It’s theft by our Government. The SS money belongs to we the people who has been paying into it. The government has been stealing from us, through SS and taxes. I pray that Donald Trump‘s administration will find this out, and make it right! Trump‘s been putting together a really good administration team that I hope will find all the stealing going on and make them pay us back!
30+ years for me in public and private sector jobs and they will hit me with WEP at 50%. I heard from a retired person Ronald Regan's administration was the biggest contributor of these S.S. policies. Yet he reaped full benefits with multiple government agencies. Hypocrite.
You only contributed for 20 years, and they calculate what you get by your 35 top earning years (that you contributed to SS). So you have 15 years of zeros that bring your average way down. That might explain it.
Why didn't these people know the Social Security rules during their working lives, and plan accordingly? And how much are they getting from the government public pensions into which they paid instead of Social Security into which they did not pay? I am confused.
Those had not been paid into social security, shouldn't receive Social security. Those government retirees collect more generous pension than other federal employees.
@@paulrobilotti9294 Do your own damn homework, that's what the internet is for. But don't use Google, it's an arm of the Demoncratic party. So is TH-cam.
I worked as a teacher. I paid into pension programs and social security. Why would these people get both if they only paid into one? Of course some should claim off their spouse's record for SS.
There Still should be a class action lawsuit against Social Security and the Government Plus Certain people in leadership. . Because these Crooks don't want people to live long enough to get these benefits 😠
The legislation under consideration is regarding people who did pay into the SS fund for at least the required 40 quarters. They also paid into another fund thru a state.
@@paulrobilotti9294 “The bill eliminates the government pension offset, which in various instances reduces Social Security benefits for spouses, widows, and widowers who also receive government pensions of their own.” (Taken from bill summary H.R. 82)
I had a high school teacher warn my class about this in the late 90s. He said by the time we get old enough for ss it would be gone. Don't know if he realized his generation would feel the effects first.
YET citizens don’t know that immigrants coming over and sponsoring their parents to come over and signed a contract to support them financially. YET those parents that come over qualify to get social security even though they didn’t work or pay into the system. How is that fair?! And what happened to the sponsorship agreement they signed to provide for their parents?! That is what is draining the system.
If you are a teacher in my state (and it sounds like her state) she didn't pay into Social Security! The State Teachers Union gives them a pension. They know this when they are a teacher. Idk about her husband's pension.
If her husband received a pension from his employer (I think it's safe to assume he worked for a government entity), then he DOESN'T deserve S.S. benefits. Neither one of them deserve any S.S. funds. You can't have your cake, and eat it too.
We did pay into the fund while working a job that did take out social security. You don't get anything if you didn't work at a job that took out no social security.
This is only for public employees that also worked at other jobs before, during, and/or after and did pay into Social Security in those other positions.
This cbs report doesnt really tell the entire story, I put into S/S through out my life, then I went to work for the State for 17 years, The State took out of my paycheck for their retirement fund, (PERS), public employees retirement system, (and no longer taking out for S/S,) this PERS is just like S/S but under the individual States, each State has this plan for their State workers. When I went to retire, I told S/S that I calculated my monthly payments, should be around $1000 per month, based on the money I put into S/S over the years. That is what it came to after what I had put into S/S over the decades. S/S said I fell under the WEF, windfall elimination act. They said I could not draw two full retirements. Since I was receiving a pension from the State after 17 years of employment, I could only draw $215 per month from my S/S pension, and they would be keeping the remaining amount.
@@AnneLloyd-Taylorthere’s also a lot of public employees who also paid into social security at their public service jobs. I work at a public school and pay both my pension and social security. That’s more common than the states that exclude social security for public employees.
Most state and federal employees do not pay social security tax. Instead they pay towards their pension or retirement funds. I don’t see why one should receive one if that someone didn’t contribute to begin with.
You misunderstand what is happening. These people, including me, PAID into Social Security AND we had pensions through teaching or public sector work. The amount we PAID into Social Security was unfairly cut back because we had another pension. What if you had another pension and ALSO paid into Social Security and the Government told YOU that because you had another pension, the amount you were supposed to get based on what you paid into the system would be reduced just because you also had another pension?
From looking at the comments, I don't think some people understand, that some of us did pay into social security, I paid into it for 35 years, but because I took a civil service job, and will draw a civil service pension, I can only draw 55 percent of SS...no double dipping about it...
I don’t understand why this story is saying this widow’s situation is unfair. I have paid into social security all my working life, not a pension. Hopefully, it is still solvent when I retire, and I can collect a fraction of what I’ve paid into it. I do not expect payment from any pension because I didn’t pay into one. Further, if my spouse passes, I can only collect either my own or his, whichever is greater, but social security does not allow you to collect both.
Ever heard of a pension? Federal AND state employees get a pension, thanks to their "union" (there should be NO union for government employees, they should have to negotiate with the people who actually pay them...We The People).
Wait…. Did they PAY into Social Security and are not receiving Social Security OR did they NOT pay into Social Security and instead paid into some other pension plan ????
So, let’s say you are a retired teacher, with a state pension, and you die. Your wife, who’s worked as a grocery clerk for 15 years and can collect maybe 400/month of social security (based solely on her wages)-that’s all she will get to live on. Because the social security you paid into when you moonlighted as a security guard at that grocery store doesn’t count. Puts a different light on your comment😢
I worked in public education but still paid social security. I receive both a pension and social security. But some states don’t do it that way. I know an administrator that receives a pension from Illinois but did not pay into social security while in that state. I’m surprised when people did their taxes they weren’t aware they hadnt paid into social security
This is potentially great news if Congress is able to pass this. There have been costs for this to be overturned for decades. I know my clients will be thrilled.
Your "clients"? Are you an attorney? If so, how much will you be getting out of this? Maybe you work for an investment firm...that doesn't make you a better person than a lawyer. IF you own a business, how many employees do you have?
Besides the fact that employees paid for their own retirement, companies also contribute. As they should. But Republicans and big businesses want to get out of paying these benefits whenever they can. Amazon, Uber, Airbnb, name any new company that makes billions and you’ll find a company that pays no benefits.
Imagine some elderly person doing the same thing they did to the healthcare ceo because they can no longer afford to live in their home. Might as well be in prison where you get free food and shelter.
@nunyuhbusiness9016 you hope that they implement it because you don't know what it says. Maybe if you had ever learned to read or perhaps if you hadn't dropped out of school in the 7th grade, you wouldn't be saying such silly childish things.
Normally if a spouse dies the living spouse is entitled to the benefits that pay the most. The SS funds should be OK since they started taxing it "double" in the 1980s, but congress keeps draining the fund for other projects. Shalom
If she was in the government for her job and didn't pay in to social security, then she's only due her pension; why do people expect social security, if they didn't pay in?!
Especially if the job is a government job. There should be NO public sector unions negotiating raises for public government employees. They should have to negotiate with the REAL employers...TAXPAYERS, on a job performance basis.
IF you're referring to our esteemed government, then you are absolutely correct. And we can place some of the blame (if not MOST) on LBJ. The man was a thief.
Once you die, the larger amount between the spouses survives unless one spouse didn’t pay into social security like the first woman on the show. There is a deduction and sometimes full elimination of the benefit as she didn’t pay into the system.
My mom went through this same exact thing. My dad died years ago and she could not collect his social security because she was a teacher in Texas and on the teacher retirement system. Make it make sense.
Because I worked a part-time job in Missouri, while I was teaching..My Social Security was reduced by 50%...At 70 I still have to work to make up for the shortfall..
She said she would've got $2,500 from social security! Her husband must've got $50,000 as she would've been eligiblefor half of his. I wish I could've got that! That's why they have a pension fund for working her job. Her husband should've had a retirement fund as well. And their house should've been paid off by then as well. I would've thought that she would've got servivle benefits at least, if her husband was paying into Social security.
As a widow you get the full amount if it's more than your own. You do not get both. If that Lady had not worked at all she would receive her husband's SS.
Social Security was never intended to be what you lived off but as a supplement to your retirement. I think more people are not taught financial wisdom and when they get old it really bites them. I have taught all my children the benefits of having other forms of income in their retirement years like IRA's, 401K's if offered, stocks and mutual funds and asset ownership. My son told me just today that his oldest son bought his first stock... Nintendo. Schools do such a disservice by not having financial education as part of the curriculum.
Nobody gets both their own benefit and the deceased spouse benefit so unless her pension is less than $2500 she’s better off than if she’d had a job with lower social security benefit than her husband.
We labored and contributed to our pensions. After years in the public workforce, we chose served the good of the people by becoming teachers, police officers, firefighters and other public servants. We were FORCED to contribute to social security. We now don’t get what we contributed to SS. Imagine if we could have chosen to buy CDs with interest, put the money into savings accounts or bought stock. Would the bank say you saved too much money, so we’re going to keep it? Yes, the government has stolen from us. Our service has been denigrated
If this is how this broken system treats its elderly can you imagine when it is our time to collect?? I'm in my 40s and I've been putting into the system for 25 years right out of high school. This is disturbing to say the least.
This is nonsense. These state pensions in which employees DO NOT contribute to Social Security usually provide VERY generous benefits to compensate for that. It’s not uncommon for them to receive pension benefits equal to their full salary, plus they receive automatic cost of living increases every year for life. I have a municipal pension, but we DID contribute to Social Security, and thus will receive SS benefits, but offsetting that is the fact that our pension pays only a portion of our highest average salary and there are NO cost of living increases, EVER. The state pension recipients are receiving very generous pension benefits, equal to what they would have received from a less lavish pension with SS benefits added, so they have nothing to complain about. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too by receiving a higher pension benefit to compensate for having no SS benefit, but then they still want the SS benefit on top of that, even though they never paid a single penny into SS. If they wanted even more money for retirement they should have invested all of that money they got to keep, that the rest of us had to pay into SS every month. Quite frankly, they’re being greedy.
Most government pensions are not the "golden parachute" you think they are. If so then she would not be 84 years old and working on her feet all day as a cashier. A former public school teacher and principal, just so sad because she cannot collect survivor benefits. She should be able to collect them.
I worked from 17 till 22 total 5yrs in private then City service for 23 yrs where SSN wasn’t taken most of that then another 18 yrs for a contractor where paid again. Because i didn’t pay at city for 23 years penalised over 40% even though I paid my quarters in for a total of 23 years plus paid SSN on part time jobs which 1 lasted 11 years while working for city. I did pay I was told we were thrown under the bus because who they were going after was railroad employees. We were collateral damage .
I wish the Powers That Be would stop treating Social Security like they're giving us an allowance. WE, THE TAXPAYERS paid into this system!!!
Social security, Medicaid, Medicare, and any other entitlement should be eliminated and replaced with a UBI that adjusts for inflation.
And they the government dipped into it and spent it.
@@justSTUMBLEDuponwhat did they spend it on?
Well did you catch the fact that she DID NOT PAY INTO THIS. Her government pension means that she did not contribute 6.2% of her gross salary into Social Security. And now after the fact, she wants Social Security.
@@jeeperjeff70 she wants to draw survivor benefits based on her husbands social security. that makes sense everyone else gets that even if they didnt pay in
This is infuriating. A woman who dedicated her life to teaching children should not have to go back to work at 84 years old.
They never paid into social security. That’s why
She never paid into social security
is she getting a Pension from the 27 years she worked as a teacher.?
Her husband did. She has been denied widow's benefits.
If she had made better financial decisions she wouldn't have to.
So billionaires will be deciding that my Social Security is too much! How about them chipping in!!
Social Security has being depleted. It wasn't well designed to start with. You can thank the Billionaires that created the industries , jobs that produced income so you could contribute to IRA 401k and SS.
Donald Trump is not President yet ... calm down 🤦🏿
Publicly traded companies are primarily structured to remove wealth from consumers and transfer it to upper management & shareholders by providing goods / services with the lowest labor / commodity cost possible.
Each quarter companies demand more & give less, in the name of shareholder profits.
Billionaires are making bank off of the millions of people earning between 10k-25k a year.
Our federal minimum wage cannot keep a person housed, clothed & fed, bcz billionaires are addicted to squeezing every penny out of the businesses their familial wealth has given them. This is also the reason social security is teetering on the brink.
The current cap has been kept artificially low for decades by these same billionaires that decided $7 an hour is enough 'trickle'.
The 10% of US citizens that already hold the most wealth also own 85% of the stock market.
That leaves the other 90% of us squabbling over the 15% of shares they're dangling before us.
No thank you. I prefer not to be the reason "low income" workers are being denied breaks & raises.
@@getlost3346😂
But they have no problem with sending billions to other countries
Not mentioning that the rich paying their fair share in taxes would help fund social security is concerning. . .
Is that you brandon?
The rich pay more than 60% of taxes taken in by gov..
@GreggWalken-xd3qv Hilarious. You forgot *insert awkward elon musk laugh* at the end. You guys really need to stop using the same tired joke. It's like you guys collectively use one brain.
The rich pay 97% of taxation lmfao
Ok, let's tax the rich at 100%...THAT will cure the problem, right? How many jobs have YOU created, Mr. Nobody? What would be the incentive to start businesses when those people would be taxed to DEATH? Oh, but THAT'S ok. You liberal empty-heads need to go move to a socialist country. It's the fault of the GOVERMENT, when they use our tax dollars for frivolous programs, instead of putting the funds where they will do the most good. Wise up.
Time to pass this bill. This law is ridiculous. I was a cop for 18 years and my dad was for 34 years We paid into pensions. And we worked other jobs that paid into SS.. .but what we earned in SS is reduced because we were cops with a pension??? WTF is that? Only asking for what I earned / paid into SS like everybody else. Shame on us for working multiple jobs and contributing to society. Cannot believe this law was ever enacted in the first place.
Impeached trump Donald
That’s right. I was a FF for 30 years but prior to that I worked 13 years at a job that paid into SSA. And now I only get 40% of what I should be getting from SSA.
@@nicstevens6499 The law was to prevent people from receiving the welfare calculation meant for low wage earners that pay into Social Security for more than 30 years. Why should you receive the same calculation for paying into Social Security for 10 or so years?
@@shamalama29 That is ridiculous... Hopefully they can get this passed. My last memories of Biden can be him passing this law and not the total mess he's overseen the past 4 years...
worked for the Feds and did the same thing you did as to other jobs, it was done back in the 80s get this to save social security, that is a joke
If you don't pay into social security then you shouldn't receive social security. If you paid into a pension then that's what you get. The widow should receive survivor benefits from her husband. He paid in.
People who worked two and three jobs paid into social security. That is the problem. We want our money and benefits.
I paid into Social Security, 40 quarters, as well as my pension. That is money owed.
@@mimib.3591 we're facing another government shut down, they're sending more money to ukraine. and you want your money? who wants their money, you and the mouse in your pocket? its over, there is no money!!!!
THAT'S WHAT SHE IS SAYING.
Glad you agree she should get 'survivor's' benefits.
Won't last long....not with what elon-the-oligarch and king trump are planning.
You are absolutely right. But this is for people who did pay into it. The government keeps half because the recipient has a pension.
I've PAID into Social Security for 10 years and have my 40 quarters. Yet, because of the Windfall Elimination Provision and Government Pension Offset, Social Security told me that my offset is 100 per cent! Even at age 70! I'm not getting so much as one penny from the money I paid into the system! How's that for a slap in the face, a punch in the gut, and a swift kick in the you-know-what?!
I’m in the same case like you retired from the state government and drawing pension benefits from California, I paid into social security before working for the state and after retirement from the state. My employer exempt from participating into social security, but I have over 10 years of private sector employment and received statements from social security after 62 years old I’ll get $450 per month that’s 6 more years away. But I’ll wait and see if social security will pay me that little money. Either way if social security denied paying me because of my 6K per month after taxes state pension, really not a big deal they can keep their money
@@chuckxu5910 Welcome to the club. At least you're getting something. I'm getting nothing after paying 10 years into that government-controlled Ponzi scheme called Social Security.
Me too I worked in the public sector and private sector and contributed into both systems and earned my Social security income yet get penalized because I get a pension. It's taxation without representation
That's horrible, I'm sorry you're going through that
@@WayneGreen-r6z , everyone should get back what everyone else gets who contributed the same amount
So she didn't contribute to social security but she wants paid from it? How is that fair? I've been paying into it all of my working life.
Her husband paid into all his life. After he died, the widows benefit that is rightly hers (IMO) was denied because "she" didn't pay into it.
I think you don't understand the issues.
@@michaelmorris9546 Not rightly hers due to the rules she knew all along RE people on Govt pensions . How much is her 33 year pension ?? Where was that question ??
@@AAWGASHTADSright. Those who don’t get a government pension, just social security, paid into their pensions with our taxes. We can’t claim theirs either. That’s why they have the windfall elimination.
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. People getting S.S $$ when they haven't paid into it. It's INFURIATING. This is what depletes the funds for those who ACTUALLY DESERVE THEM.
My teacher retirements are completely free of social security.
However, I worked a lot of part time jobs over the years. Even having a second full time job for a little over a year, and I definitely paid into SS on those jobs. So should I at least get that money back?
The “windfall provision” calculates how much ss you get if you have a government pension + ss work. It can be a lot less than someone who made the same total amount of ss wages because the govt gives low wage workers a boost so they can survive. Like if you made $5k for 10 years you would get less ss than a person who made the same amount but doesn’t have a state pension.
Yes, you are going to get some social security, BUT it is “offset” by your pension-read that, subtracted from. Which means -0-
What you get, is the average income over 40 "quarters" of employment. How much you made during that time, is also taken into consideration. Your "teacher" pension should have helped you , because you belonged to a Teacher's Union, correct? You state you worked a "second full-time job for a little over a year", do you have your pay stubs to see how much you actually paid into S.S.? I guarantee, it wasn't as much as you think.
How is this money stolen from you when you never contributed to social security?? You contributed to your pension through your government job and never into social security. If you lived in NY where you pay into your pension and social security then you are entitled to both without any penalty. This story is so one sided and doesn’t tell the whole story
she wants widows benefits from her husbands soc sec everyone gets that even if they did not pay in
Incorrect. Why should ANYONE get to double-dip? If that person received a pension, that money is payable for the rest of their life. You can't have your cake, and eat it too.
Please people READ before you sign on the line!
Social Security was never intended to enrich people that already have a good retirement. This bill does not help the neediest and poorest social security recipients, rather it is a windfall for folks that already have a much more generous government or private industry retirement. The ONLY reason Republicans are going along with this is because it will defund Social Security faster.
I wish they would only give the money to the people that paid into it. It’s not my job to fund Government workers or anybody else.
Pay these people what they earned
Even if they never paid into social security?
@@matthewm9261 Absolutely not...
A friend of mine retired from her longtime job with LAUnified Schools, and throughout the years knew that she’d receive a pension and not full social security. I’m surprised that the principal wasn’t aware of that.
A lot of people are not aware of it
B O O M.
I also work for LAUSD but worked in another field covered by SS before then for about 17 years and will be docked Social Security by about 700 dollars less a month than I should get. The issue is really important in red states with no unions and lower pay and lower pensions, especially for mid career changers.
This seems very simple…if you and your employer are not paying 6.2% of your gross salary into Social Security then you don’t get Social Security benefits. If you and your employer were not contributing, then you don’t get money from the coffer you never added to.
You don’t get both. If she revoked her pension (that includes a full work history of not contributing 6.2% to SSA), then she could get survivor benefits from her deceased husband. Clearly, her pension must be more than that. PLEASE… give me the option of not having SSA take 6.2% of my gross, and let me invest that. But she took the extra salary and now wants SSA to give her money she never paid into… she’s a thief.
@@jeeperjeff70 The whole point is....they are denying her the widow's benefit from her deceased husband.
@@michaelmorris9546 Due to rules she knew all along . She's got a 33 year pension ( they won't tell us how much ) and she wants the SS $ too and that is NOT how it works
This isn't the situation for most people. Most are mid career changers who got their full 40 quarters and worked many years in SS covered field. Then when they switched, they are docked what their full SS benefits would have been,
Why were they ‘shut out’ of the program? Isn’t this what happens when two spouses who collect and one passes? The person with the largest benefit is what continues. Rather than get people riled up, why don’t you compare the two rather than just one side of the story.
Social Security said I was over paid and stopped payments for 6 months ....which lead me into bankruptcy......
She living on a mansion ? My dad only gets like $700 a month and you don't hear from him on the news
This is very sad, I feel we the people work hard all of our lives and then something like this done to people.
Impeached trump Donald
This is odd that she didn’t know this and that others don’t. I worked as a state public servant for a few years and I was fully aware I was paying into a pension and they were not deducting social security. Which is why I did not want to make it a long term thing. When I went back to corporate, I let them take out the required taxes and rolled over my pension to my current 401k. State education jobs are great when you look at the job security and holiday/summer time off but is it worth it though?
She was cheated out of the widow's benefit from her husband's social security that he paid into all his working life.
She knew it . She's taking her shot and we are supposed to give her the $ . How much is her 33 year pension ?? They left that out . THAT is the reason she doesn't have a right to his SS
They didn’t pay into it. They got some cushy govt pension and want social security too. But they didn’t pay into social security when working for the government
Anybody that pays into Social Security should receive it but if you didn’t pay into it then why should you get it? I’m kind of confused. My husband and I both have Social Security if he dies, I cannot collect his Social Security. I can only collect mine, the higher of the two. So I would go down to just one Social Security income a month. I would just receive mine which I paid into for the 45 years that I worked. So I don’t understand why this woman who worked as a teacher and paid into a pension which she receives but did not pay into Social Security should receive her husband Social Security, when many spouses that both paid into Social Security cannot collect their deceased spouses Social Security.
It's not welfare, you have to or should have to pay into it to receive it. And the government should repay all money stolen from it.
It is insurance, not welfare
Can't tell the younger generations that, they've been brain washed by teachers who don't pay into it and have pensions! 🤷🏼♀️
So she's already getting a pension and never paid into soc security? She shouldn't get soc sec then. She has no right to it. Not the publics fault she squandered her money and never saved. Hell I wish I could go the majority of my life without paying into soc security!
She was looking to collect social security from her husband passing away. Death benefits or widows benefits.
Or getting that nice pension. Not all of us had that opportunity, besides the fact that I would NEVER work for ANY government entity, knowing that I would get money from a taxpayer-funded pension. THAT is so wrong in so many ways.
I knew this a long time ago, if you are in education, you pay into pension and do not get social security. If I thought I could double-dip I might have became a teacher...
If you paid in you should get benefits. If you havn't paid in then you shouldn't be getting benefits. If you have another retirement plan and you paid social security taxes you should get your full benefit. Nobody should have to pay taxes on Social Security benefits.
Biden voted for taxing SS benefits when he was a congressman, he was very proud of it at the time. He was the major instigator of that bill. He claimed seniors were getting rich off SS. 🙄
Not if that job had a pension plan.
If you haven't paid into social security you should not get paid from it.
AMEN
I’ve paid into social security for 43 years. They took my money and gave me credits to use in retirement. I also work for a government agency and will have a pension. I DESERVE EVERY PENNY FROM BOTH.
she’s 84 and works prime more and more ppl over 65 are working because everything is expensive .
😇
They did say nobody wants to work these jobs. Well here you go!
We should all get our full social security!! Money went to illegals and wars!
The theft of our S.S. money, has been going on for years (since LBJ was in office). Government just takes what they want. Maybe we should file a class action suit against the Federal government for GRAND THEFT.
Imagine how your life would have been if you wouldn't have sat in a chair 24 hours a day watching fox fake news. You might not have so many people laughing at you.
We pay for social security and we’re being told it’s gonna go bankrupt or it’s gonna get eliminated. We pay for health insurance and 90 percent of our damn claims get denied. We pay for house insurance and the moment you put in a claim you get Pennie’s on the thousands of dollars you’ve paid. We pay taxes on everything! Property, goods, federal, state, gas, you name it we f’en pay it! We send billions of tax payer dollars in aid to everyone in the world! Maybe it’s time to cut all of our taxes by 70 percent and letting other countries fend for themselves us Americans are fed up we’re tired of paying for pples 💩.
It's a slush fund account.
If you didn't contribute to social security, then they shouldn't receive a check. When I worked for the school system, I was told that you could contribute to social security as well. I only worked for about a year. There was more advancement in the public sector.
I was 39 when my husband died at 43. I lost half my household income but because I worked, I could not collect his social security. Government got to keep it. That is just wrong.
You have wait till 60 to claim survivor benefits.
What it comes down to is that if you do not contribute to the social security system you don't get any $$$ money out of it.
Well, we could just stop paying taxes all together. See if they like that
After my retirement from a government job, I worked for 15 years in private industry, but was still forced to pay into SS in the private sector. Well. if you are not going to give me the benefit, tell me again why the US GOVERNEMNT made me pay into it knowing full well I will not get the same benefits.
You get the same benefits, WEP makes sure you don't get the same welfare calculation that low wage workers received that have paid into Social Security for 30 or more years.
Maybe YOU should have asked some questions.
I was a lifelong public school teacher. I had no idea.
I'm curious if your W2 reflected whether you paid into SS or not. I would think it would say that each year if you paid into it. I would be pretty upset if I just didn't know that I paid into state funds and didn't know that meant I wasn't getting SS.
Exactly, your pay stub shows exactly what is with held. If cannot understand that, that is on you.
is it true for all teachers?
Never checked a paystub even . Wow
@@cyndimoring9389 You should check to see if your pension is tax exempt in your state. Every penny counts! You can go online to SS and view your work history. They will also give you an estimate of your benefits.
I owned a small business and paid the full SS amount. Like 12.4% plus my FICA. What do I get extra, surely no pension. I worked more hours than most. I had no buffer from when things went south like some have by working for someone else. I’m just joking. AllI want is what the Good Lord gives me. Nothing more, nothing less. My greatest joy is being able to bless others with my blessings. I’m happy
I’m surprised people don’t know about this law it’s been around for a long time too me what really stinks it was supported by both parties and it doesn’t effect the private sector if you retire from Exxon you get your full pension and full social security payments how is that right 🙄
The story is clipped to try and say she should be getting $2500 a month from SS. No, what they are trying to say is she should be allowed to receive survivor benefits which would be half of what her spouse received, which is probably more like $1500 maybe if that! Its not totally clear the truth of the story. I think possibly at the end she is saying she would have been better of with the SS system. Unclear. News just trying to stir the pot.
These people already have/had State or other Gov't pensions, so it would have been more clear & complete had the reporter shown how much/how long these "victims" contributed to Social Security for, if at all.
So its a "" double dip"" bill then?
Correct, even if she worked in the private sector and paid into SS, she is only entitled to the higher benefit.
I worked and paid into S.S. 10 years then got my local Government job with the private pension for 27 years. Then I worked another 10 years paying into S.S. On my request for my S.S. I was penalized by almost 50% from $1700 down to $800. Why? If the Senate doesn't pass this legislation by the end of the month we will have to start all over again next year. Its B.S.
It’s theft by our Government. The SS money belongs to we the people who has been paying into it. The government has been stealing from us, through SS and taxes. I pray that Donald Trump‘s administration will find this out, and make it right!
Trump‘s been putting together a really good administration team that I hope will find all the stealing going on and make them pay us back!
If you worked 30yrs paying into ssa, you could get both
call your US Senator. they have until this Friday to pass it! Senate goes on Christmas vacation after Friday!
30+ years for me in public and private sector jobs and they will hit me with WEP at 50%. I heard from a retired person Ronald Regan's administration was the biggest contributor of these S.S. policies. Yet he reaped full benefits with multiple government agencies. Hypocrite.
You only contributed for 20 years, and they calculate what you get by your 35 top earning years (that you contributed to SS). So you have 15 years of zeros that bring your average way down. That might explain it.
Its our mf money
Why didn't these people know the Social Security rules during their working lives, and plan accordingly? And how much are they getting from the government public pensions into which they paid instead of Social Security into which they did not pay? I am confused.
Those had not been paid into social security, shouldn't receive Social security. Those government retirees collect more generous pension than other federal employees.
and you know that for sure do you.
@@paulrobilotti9294 Do your own damn homework, that's what the internet is for. But don't use Google, it's an arm of the Demoncratic party. So is TH-cam.
I worked as a teacher. I paid into pension programs and social security. Why would these people get both if they only paid into one? Of course some should claim off their spouse's record for SS.
Sheesh, that scares me that my own owed social security money will not be available when I'm finally due in the next few years.
BLAME THE GOVERMENT. Our monies were STOLEN from us starting with LBJ...the worst thief of all.
Wait, where's the pension or other benefits they should be getting? Why do we need to pay for people that did not contribute?
These are people that contributed by working as a teacher and working other part time jobs.
They DID contribute . Duh.
We did contribute. You can work a job that has a pension and another that contributes to SS. Which I did and have my 40 quarters.
This affects people who worked a private sector job and a public sector job. They contributed to SS and state pension plans.
Exactly.
There Still should be a class action lawsuit against Social Security and the Government Plus Certain people in leadership. . Because these Crooks don't want people to live long enough to get these benefits 😠
I cant just walk into any bank and take out money that i NEVER put in.....then scream UNFAIR! 😂😂😂😂 PLEEEEESE. NO SYMPATHY.
The legislation under consideration is regarding people who did pay into the SS fund for at least the required 40 quarters. They also paid into another fund thru a state.
well what about the money her husband put it, he is dead what happens to that money
@@paulrobilotti9294 “The bill eliminates the government pension offset, which in various instances reduces Social Security benefits for spouses, widows, and widowers who also receive government pensions of their own.” (Taken from bill summary H.R. 82)
George Carlin warned us about this in 2008.
And he was a conservative!😊
I had a high school teacher warn my class about this in the late 90s. He said by the time we get old enough for ss it would be gone. Don't know if he realized his generation would feel the effects first.
Ukraine money was a laundry operation.
Bibi got a nice check
Absolutely.
They contributed to State Pension Programs, not Social Security. Why should they get monies from a program they were not a part of?
WINFALL my arse. It is punitive.
Brought to you by Ronald Reagan and the Republican party.
YET citizens don’t know that immigrants coming over and sponsoring their parents to come over and signed a contract to support them financially. YET those parents that come over qualify to get social security even though they didn’t work or pay into the system. How is that fair?! And what happened to the sponsorship agreement they signed to provide for their parents?! That is what is draining the system.
Those parents do not get a penny since they did not work for 40 quarters. You mixed up with welfare.
Keep voting Democratic Party, Retirement and Benefits for all! All... as in the whole world gets to bankrupt us.
It’s like the powers that be are on their knees in prayer position begging for a revolt. Humans are tired of the BS.
Exactly, then Martial Law will be declared, and we ALL know what that means. If you think it's bad NOW...
Maybe that's what the mysterious drones are for
The money that i've been paying in since I was 16 is not going to be there when i retire in 11 years. I dont feel for her at all.
If you are a teacher in my state (and it sounds like her state) she didn't pay into Social Security! The State Teachers Union gives them a pension. They know this when they are a teacher. Idk about her husband's pension.
They said this in for vote now under Biden. Thank Joey!
If her husband received a pension from his employer (I think it's safe to assume he worked for a government entity), then he DOESN'T deserve S.S. benefits. Neither one of them deserve any S.S. funds. You can't have your cake, and eat it too.
Why did the school psychologist lose some of her benefits if she was already receiving them?
whose fault is it that they didn't deduct social security from her paychecks?
Why should people who didn’t pay into Social Security get benefits (except when their Spouse paid in)?
I don't understand. If you didn't pay into the fund, how can you expect to get anything out ?
We did pay into the fund while working a job that did take out social security. You don't get anything if you didn't work at a job that took out no social security.
This is only for public employees that also worked at other jobs before, during, and/or after and did pay into Social Security in those other positions.
This cbs report doesnt really tell the entire story,
I put into S/S through out my life, then I went to work for the State for 17 years, The State took out of my paycheck for their retirement fund, (PERS), public employees retirement system, (and no longer taking out for S/S,) this PERS is just like S/S but under the individual States, each State has this plan for their State workers.
When I went to retire, I told S/S that I calculated my monthly payments, should be around $1000 per month, based on the money I put into S/S over the years.
That is what it came to after what I had put into S/S over the decades.
S/S said I fell under the WEF, windfall elimination act.
They said I could not draw two full retirements.
Since I was receiving a pension from the State after 17 years of employment, I could only draw $215 per month from my S/S pension, and they would be keeping the remaining amount.
@@AnneLloyd-Taylorthere’s also a lot of public employees who also paid into social security at their public service jobs. I work at a public school and pay both my pension and social security. That’s more common than the states that exclude social security for public employees.
@@ltgreen6626Read about the bend points and then you will understand.
If the money was already there how would it drain it faster? Oh wait because they taken it for non Social security things.
Most state and federal employees do not pay social security tax. Instead they pay towards their pension or retirement funds. I don’t see why one should receive one if that someone didn’t contribute to begin with.
Because they paid into SS too, after 40 quarters of paying into it.. Civil Service and civilian jobs
Many people don't work 40 years at just one job.
If you didn't pay into SS, why do you feel the right to receive SS?
They had other careers where they DID pay into it, and that money is owed back to them.
Teachers have a CHOICE. They can chose not to do S.S. or pay into it.
If they're entitled to Social Security even though they never contributed to it, then I'm entitled to their state pension funds.
You misunderstand what is happening. These people, including me, PAID into Social Security AND we had pensions through teaching or public sector work. The amount we PAID into Social Security was unfairly cut back because we had another pension. What if you had another pension and ALSO paid into Social Security and the Government told YOU that because you had another pension, the amount you were supposed to get based on what you paid into the system would be reduced just because you also had another pension?
Wow…your logic is ridiculous
She is trying to get her husband's social security.
@@ndks2207Not ridiculous……the logic is absolutely correct
From looking at the comments, I don't think some people understand, that some of us did pay into social security, I paid into it for 35 years, but because I took a civil service job, and will draw a civil service pension, I can only draw 55 percent of SS...no double dipping about it...
I don’t understand why this story is saying this widow’s situation is unfair. I have paid into social security all my working life, not a pension. Hopefully, it is still solvent when I retire, and I can collect a fraction of what I’ve paid into it. I do not expect payment from any pension because I didn’t pay into one.
Further, if my spouse passes, I can only collect either my own or his, whichever is greater, but social security does not allow you to collect both.
What I hate is the forever penalty for choosing insurance at the wrong time of year when signing up for Social Security.
I thought state employees got the equivalent of SS...but it seems unfair to block their spousal benefits if their spouse paid in.
Unless they weren't married the required 10 years. 🤔
Ever heard of a pension? Federal AND state employees get a pension, thanks to their "union" (there should be NO union for government employees, they should have to negotiate with the people who actually pay them...We The People).
@WayneGreen-r6z you're so jealous that you're not smart enough to have a state or or any government job. Your jealousy is embarrassing and dangerous.
Wait…. Did they PAY into Social Security and are not receiving Social Security OR did they NOT pay into Social Security and instead paid into some other pension plan ????
Teacher gets a pension more then most people get. If they did not put into they should not get it.
So, let’s say you are a retired teacher, with a state pension, and you die. Your wife, who’s worked as a grocery clerk for 15 years and can collect maybe 400/month of social security (based solely on her wages)-that’s all she will get to live on. Because the social security you paid into when you moonlighted as a security guard at that grocery store doesn’t count. Puts a different light on your comment😢
Many teachers have worked in other careers and paid into it for 10+ years, either before or after teaching. So they are owed that money.
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No I stand by what I stated
@@customer5032 Thank you, that would be me!
exactly why didn't say how much pension monthly she gets. Only said how much social security she missing.
I worked in public education but still paid social security. I receive both a pension and social security. But some states don’t do it that way. I know an administrator that receives a pension from Illinois but did not pay into social security while in that state. I’m surprised when people did their taxes they weren’t aware they hadnt paid into social security
This is potentially great news if Congress is able to pass this. There have been costs for this to be overturned for decades. I know my clients will be thrilled.
Your "clients"? Are you an attorney? If so, how much will you be getting out of this? Maybe you work for an investment firm...that doesn't make you a better person than a lawyer. IF you own a business, how many employees do you have?
That is not right to deny her receiving his benefits. 😢
Besides the fact that employees paid for their own retirement, companies also contribute. As they should. But Republicans and big businesses want to get out of paying these benefits whenever they can. Amazon, Uber, Airbnb, name any new company that makes billions and you’ll find a company that pays no benefits.
Imagine some elderly person doing the same thing they did to the healthcare ceo because they can no longer afford to live in their home. Might as well be in prison where you get free food and shelter.
Standard Operating Procedures : Welcome to Project 2025 - Where "denials" will be a common occurrence...
I hope they actually implement project 2025, even though I know they won't.
@nunyuhbusiness9016
It's a bit like Puritan New England, or Cromwell 's dictatorship, but looking at the Biden admin, I think I could handle it. 😑
@nunyuhbusiness9016 you hope that they implement it because you don't know what it says. Maybe if you had ever learned to read or perhaps if you hadn't dropped out of school in the 7th grade, you wouldn't be saying such silly childish things.
I dont get it, how can people be upset they never paid in, get a pension and still want to claim SS?
Normally if a spouse dies the living spouse is entitled to the benefits that pay the most. The SS funds should be OK since they started taxing it "double" in the 1980s, but congress keeps draining the fund for other projects. Shalom
If she was in the government for her job and didn't pay in to social security, then she's only due her pension; why do people expect social security, if they didn't pay in?!
Why does SS give SSI to illegal alien seniors? That's needs to stop.
Public sector unions can’t have it both ways
Especially if the job is a government job. There should be NO public sector unions negotiating raises for public government employees. They should have to negotiate with the REAL employers...TAXPAYERS, on a job performance basis.
Sadly for real. Make no senses to me
Especially her being a teacher. They get all kinds of free or low cost perks thanks to the Union. One of them is financial advice.
“Do not put your trust in humans.”
Psalm 146: 3,4
Trust nobody
We illegally took your money...re invested it and now it's ours not yours
IF you're referring to our esteemed government, then you are absolutely correct. And we can place some of the blame (if not MOST) on LBJ. The man was a thief.
These people didn’t pay into social security. Why should they get it. Crazy!
Marriage. Where else does the money go then?
Once you die, the larger amount between the spouses survives unless one spouse didn’t pay into social security like the first woman on the show. There is a deduction and sometimes full elimination of the benefit as she didn’t pay into the system.
Don’t feel bad for her as she gets a state pension. If she didn’t save enough, that’s on her.
Yep agreed. I httocpay lock in social security.
My mom went through this same exact thing. My dad died years ago and she could not collect his social security because she was a teacher in Texas and on the teacher retirement system. Make it make sense.
Where is her govt pension money? Did she spend that?
Because I worked a part-time job in Missouri, while I was teaching..My Social Security was reduced by 50%...At 70 I still have to work to make up for the shortfall..
My mom is 72 in Missouri and she still has to work also, so sad
Do you still get your pension too? Many people on just social security have to work too to make ends meet.
If you're getting a pension from your government job, then you have no right to complain. You can't double-dip.
Mercy...thank you very much, government.🙏
This does absolutely nothing for regular Social Security recipients. Lift The Wealthy Tax Cap completely!
She said she would've got $2,500 from social security!
Her husband must've got $50,000 as she would've been eligiblefor half of his.
I wish I could've got that!
That's why they have a pension fund for working her job.
Her husband should've had a retirement fund as well. And their house should've been paid off by then as well.
I would've thought that she would've got servivle benefits at least, if her husband was paying into Social security.
Even if the house is paid off, the taxes now are like a house payment decades ago.
Social Security DOES NOT pay a continuing "survivor" benefit. It's a one-time payment ONLY.
@@SewingBoxDesigns Such is life. Owning a home has it's good, and bad, parts.
As a widow you get the full amount if it's more than your own. You do not get both. If that Lady had not worked at all she would receive her husband's SS.
Social Security was never intended to be what you lived off but as a supplement to your retirement. I think more people are not taught financial wisdom and when they get old it really bites them. I have taught all my children the benefits of having other forms of income in their retirement years like IRA's, 401K's if offered, stocks and mutual funds and asset ownership. My son told me just today that his oldest son bought his first stock... Nintendo. Schools do such a disservice by not having financial education as part of the curriculum.
Nobody gets both their own benefit and the deceased spouse benefit so unless her pension is less than $2500 she’s better off than if she’d had a job with lower social security benefit than her husband.
Wow how sad
We labored and contributed to our pensions. After years in the public workforce, we chose served the good of the people by becoming teachers, police officers, firefighters and other public servants.
We were FORCED to contribute to social security. We now don’t get what we contributed to SS. Imagine if we could have chosen to buy CDs with interest, put the money into savings accounts or bought stock. Would the bank say you saved too much money, so we’re going to keep it? Yes, the government has stolen from us. Our service has been denigrated
Sounds like criminal activity to me.
... Muslims behind hire in social security administration
If this is how this broken system treats its elderly can you imagine when it is our time to collect??
I'm in my 40s and I've been putting into the system for 25 years right out of high school. This is disturbing to say the least.
This is nonsense. These state pensions in which employees DO NOT contribute to Social Security usually provide VERY generous benefits to compensate for that. It’s not uncommon for them to receive pension benefits equal to their full salary, plus they receive automatic cost of living increases every year for life. I have a municipal pension, but we DID contribute to Social Security, and thus will receive SS benefits, but offsetting that is the fact that our pension pays only a portion of our highest average salary and there are NO cost of living increases, EVER.
The state pension recipients are receiving very generous pension benefits, equal to what they would have received from a less lavish pension with SS benefits added, so they have nothing to complain about. They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too by receiving a higher pension benefit to compensate for having no SS benefit, but then they still want the SS benefit on top of that, even though they never paid a single penny into SS.
If they wanted even more money for retirement they should have invested all of that money they got to keep, that the rest of us had to pay into SS every month. Quite frankly, they’re being greedy.
Most government pensions are not the "golden parachute" you think they are. If so then she would not be 84 years old and working on her feet all day as a cashier. A former public school teacher and principal, just so sad because she cannot collect survivor benefits. She should be able to collect them.
I worked from 17 till 22 total 5yrs in private then City service for 23 yrs where SSN wasn’t taken most of that then another 18 yrs for a contractor where paid again. Because i didn’t pay at city for 23 years penalised over 40% even though I paid my quarters in for a total of 23 years plus paid SSN on part time jobs which 1 lasted 11 years while working for city. I did pay I was told we were thrown under the bus because who they were going after was railroad employees. We were collateral damage .
I always wondered about that railroad workers thing. 🤔