I'd love to see you in a face to face conversation (not debate) with IP. I always think that these more intellectual apologists know on some level that they're lying and I wonder how far their rationales would stretch in an honest conversation with a calm and rational interlocutor. I'll never know, but I wonder how far my rationales would have stretched if I'd ever had someone to really push me to confront these problems when I was still a Christian. I eventually stumbled into it on my own, but I wonder if I could have escaped my indoctrination sooner in this type of a conversation. Keep up the great work!
I love all of your videos. I have read the Bible hundreds of times. When I was a Christian I would just ignore all of the things that demonstrate what an evil monster the God of the Bible clearly is!
I think that it's funny that Christians think that Atheists are "afraid" of taking the Bible in context. Looking at the Bible in context is how I became an atheist.
You must not always take the Bible at face value and with your own knowledge because your emotional state may determine what you perceive it to mean versus trying to understand the word of God from Gods perspective alone. To take it from Gods perspective you must also understand the Spiritual gleanings interwoven throughout it. Too many pick up the Bible as non believers in God and attempt to understand it from their non believing perspective and it doesn’t make much sense to them.
@@davidrexford586 God, supposedly, is transcendent and completely above us (Isaiah 55: 8-9), so taking the bible from God's perspective would be impossible for a human (just like the excuse apologists use to dodge the problem of evil, "well, you don't know if that was really evil because you don't have God's perspective). You can't have it both ways - either god's perspective is beyond us, or it isn't. In any case, it's not like the bible is so complex that it can only be understood by a perfect mind. It's bronze-age simple. It requires interpretation because 1) it's incoherent; and 2) the religion evolves over time, so the believers have to go back and reinterpret their bible to keep up with the times...just like any other product of human imagination.
It is so strange to listen to these familiar stories and realize I used to be able to read them and say, "yep, this God is perfect!" Twilight zone stuff, man.
That is an interesting comment. I was just thinking how apologists remind me of the characters in "Its a good life" on the twilight zone. No matter how bad Bill Mumy acts, they HAVE to say "That was a good thing!" because they are so afraid of what he'll do to them.
At least the Gnostics (some of them) thought he was an evil demiurge and an impostor (Yaldabaoth). They may have some wacky beliefs, but that view tracks with the character in the O.T.
I had thought of a theory that if Satan was the father of lies and God was not the author of confusion then that would possibly conclude that, because of all the different branches of Christianity and disagreements of interpretation and practices, that the bible could actually be a work of satan to cause confusion and chaos and misleading worship among the very people that claim to be worshipping God.
it still always surprises me lol. Like theres so much biblical support for the exact opposite of what is said, that I cannot believe anyone can actually get the words out of their mouth.
@@MindShift-Brandon Strange how often this can be seen especially in their response videos. Underlines the impression that even those are primarily for their own audience.
Touché! I tried to point these out to my pastor brother (without your verbal skills or as many examples) but, his response was repeatedly, “You can’t blame God for what men have done.” Denial!!! 🤦🏼♀️
I have a dear christian friend who thinks I'm just "mad" at god. She thinks that my present belief is a "choice." I have a hard time convincing her otherwise. She once said to me: "Don't you think your emotions are just getting away with you?" I told her frankly that it would be easier emotionally if I just continued to be in the church and be a part of the community I've largely lost. So no, it''s not a choice. It would be like saying I choose to believe the sky is green. She has so much grief over my agnosticism and still, I love her dearly.
@@CJoyArt I totally understand that, conversations I’ve had with people about why I’m not a Christian anymore have been so painful. Explaining to someone that I view their God as evil is even harder than convincing them I believe he’s not real.
@@CJoyArteverything that doesn't fit their view is a "choice". When their view at times moves the goal post on what they consider moral. Also they commit the mistake of using cherry picking fallacies.
@@calebpeterson3117 Prince of Egypt was also my favorite DreamWorks movie. I can't look at it the same anymore knowing Moses was a horrible person and a sexual predator. While I'm not excusing Ramses the Pharohs actions, The real reason that he hardened his heart for the last time is cuz Moses and God deliberately ruined his life and abused him on a psychological level he knew that the god Moses worshipped was a mad tyrant.
A friend recently texted me, “happy Passover.” I didn’t say anything, but I thought to myself, “what’s so happy about it? A bunch of babies were killed.” I guess that’s an example of the fact that once you see these things from the outside, they become quite horrific.
if I had a kid who went around beating up other kids, and did nothing about it, people would reasonably conclude that I either wanted them to do it, or didn't care; saying "well I never told them to do that!" would not get me off the hook lol
God be like: don’t worry Abraham, I care about Ishmael because he happens to come from your sperm too. ( not because he’s a human being made in my image )
@@leodavinci8935 God creates a "blasphemous and false religion" through him, according to Christians, lmao. Which makes it somehow way worse because it means God is complicit in "deceiving the world" that is attributed to Lucifer.
Ishmael is born at the summer solstice; Ishmael was the genius of winter, because born when the days begin to shorten. He was the precursor of Isaac, and bore the same relation to him as John the Baptist did to Jesus Christ. Ishmael and Isaac were the same as Esau and Jacob. Isaac was the younger. Like Jacob, he came forth clinging to the heels of his brother, as summer always follows winter. The summer solstice to the winter solstice is called decrease (down). Increase (up) is the winter solstice to the summer solstice. These two solstices are the two Jerusalems in Galatians 4.
And people wonder why atheists or anyone other than the abrahamic god talk about god a lot, especially if it involves politics since there are bills or whatever laws being passed that’s religious related
The pettiness makes more sense when you demote YHWH from God of Everything back down to God of the Hebrews, one deity among many. Still a murderous jerk, but understandably so. One deity among thousands can worry about losing followers and be jealous of Its position in their hearts. An all-powerful God of Everything could ensure that there were no other religions and no way for anybody to question Its existence.
I think I've deconstructed today.. After reading only a few chapters in the Bible, and watching some of these videos, it's amazing to think I was a Christian. Time and again, God was neutral to people in his favour, that had multiple wives, and not to mention the murder of 200 people, and their mutilation. A caring and all loving God would never be neutral to these things. He even sent a bear to kill a group of children because they made fun of a bald guy, who was in his favour. It can't be real, if there is a God, he just made the universe because he got bored, and left it to run.
Hello I started backsliding in my faith about a month ago, and now the past few days I've started questioning everything in my faith, watching videos from you and Kristi Burke, and I just feel so lost right now. I started reading the bible in August 2022 and it completely changed my whole life, I was "born again", I worshipped and loved God, was super passionate about reading scripture, I no longer delighted in my previous sins. I stopped having sex with my boyfriend, looking at pornography, getting drunk, cussing like a sailor, taking God's name in vain, etc. I even left this man I love and had an *amazing* relationship with, because the bible told me not to be unequally yoked. Leaving him was the most heart wrenching thing I ever did, but I felt that God wanted me to because I was being disobedient by staying in a relationship with someone who wasn't as passionate about God as I was. (Thankfully, he and I got back together a month ago.. and since then I have been straying from God.) My whole walk with God I've felt nothing but shame, guilt, fear. (I didn't grow up in the church btw). I can't even tell you how extremely tormented I've been over my own salvation doubts. Seriously.. Non-stop fear and doubt over my salvation. I've been so beyond sick of this fear for so long, and barely hanging onto my faith, but I HAVE to hold on, otherwise I'm going to be burning in hell forever. And that if I have salvation fears, that means I'm not trusting Jesus' work on the cross enough. I've just been so beyond exhausted for so long, and feeling EXTREME shame for minor sins. Thinking "If I'm truly saved then why do I keep doing the wrong thing? Why can't I just get it right? What's wrong with me? I'm such a disgusting sinner who deserves hell". I've been told I need to learn to receive God's grace that is freely given in Christ. That if I'm in Christ, God sees the perfection of Christ and not my sin, so I don't need to fear because his wrath for my sins was placed on Jesus. But.. how do I know for sure that I'm truly in Christ, that these promises apply to me, and that I'm not a "false believer"? When I've looked at people who have fallen away from the faith, it has honestly terrified me, because it makes me feel insecure about my own faith and salvation. And I think this is why people dismiss others as "never was a true believer" which I also used to say, yet here I am questioning everything, even though I have been 100% convinced previously that this is the truth.. I literally gave up my whole life to follow Jesus. Although I've never been able to truly admit this to myself, I've never understood why God seems so different in the Old and New Testament. He seems so angry in the Old, and much more love in the New. There is also a verse that says "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom". And Jesus says "Whoever commits sin is a slave of sin" and "If the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed" but I've honestly felt anything but free since being a Christian. Not to mention Matthew 11:28, that Jesus will give us true rest, but I've become exhausted. Constantly examining if I'm bearing fruit of the Spirit and doing good works. Because I know that we are saved by grace through faith, but if your faith is true, then fruit and good works will show. Soooo.. it's become exhaustion. I could keep going on and on, but this is already so long. Anyways just venting. I am just so lost right now. Because I do believe in a Creator, and a lot of things from the bible still. But I don't know right now Update: I've deconverted lol
"how do I know for sure that I'm truly in Christ, that these promises apply to me, and that I'm not a "false believer"?" "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16 If you have been baptized and you believe in Jesus Christ you are saved, Spirit and flesh are at war within you it's normal Christian life. You have to strengthen your "new man" by the word of God and fellowship of other believers, faith the size of a mustard seed saves if its object is Jesus Christ, I will pray that God would help you in your situation my sister in Christ. ❤🙏
IT IS ALL SO MUCH at the beginning. There is no rush. Truth is truth. Take your time, keep learning, and studying, and reading. Keep getting new perspectives. It takes a long time for many of us to undo decades of brainwashing.
18:30 - Wait... couldn't God just erase these people's memories of Molek? Of all the false gods? No need to kill them to maintain ideological purity, just erase the bad ideology directly from their minds.
@@SharedPhilosophyThat’s the actual excuse for this which is hilarious. As if they were murdered by their own free will. When God literally used God powers to make his people win fights.
You'd have to tell it as the story of Sam, a person unconnected to the bible first, then do a big reveal. As soon as it's connected to their god belief the filters that keep the cognitive dissonance away lock down. Source: decades as one of them then a decade of questioning & deconstructing
The writers sure did a job on Hercules and his 12 labors. His 12 labors became the 12 Tribes of Israel. They begin with Leo (Judah) and go all the way round to Cancer (Issachar).
Oh no it'll do the opposite trust me 😂 When I used to be a Christian and I read that story and ended up thinking samson is the coolest dude ever after he killed 1000 men with a donkey jaw bone. The confirmation bias when you're brainwashed by religion is crazy
@@SharedPhilosophy The donkey who owned the jaw is found in the Cancer constellation. She is the northern ass and her foal is the southern ass. These are the two asses that Jesus (the sun of many names) rode on into Jerusalem. This Jerusalem is the summer solstice in Cancer.
there are some very kind, compassionate Christians. There are also many (as seen frequently in comment sections) who delight at the thought that people who don't believe as they do will burn in a hell forever. They actually say it and likely consider themselves good people. To try and reason with such people about horrid acts of vengeance is largely futile since vengeance - different from justice - was done and supported by that god and is still a principle that some Christians have no problem with today. Don't know how you can do this week after week, Brandon, and not rage! Good one, as always.
It's pretty horrible, isn't it? And call it a slippery slope if you want, but it's only one step away from how in more fundamentalist areas of the world, people dish out their god's supposed vengeance themselves.
There are also sober Australians. I'm 50 and haven't met any and have lived all over the eastern side of the country. But they exist, I bet both of them are boring to hang out with.
One of the people that I miss is Christopher Hitchens. The title of one of his books is "God is not Good." Boy, did you prove his point today! Thank you Brandon!
Brandon is so tempered and fair minded. There's no haughtiness in his delivery, he just hits the nail right in the head every time. I appreciate these videos so much, and the time and effort that he pours into them.
@@harveywabbit9541 Nah. it was the Gilgamesh story, which far, far predates the Zeus story. I really wish you would actually do research, it's disturbing to me that you present this stuff in a totally catawampus, meaningless jumble. I get that you're trying to make connections, but you're just spouting your own ideas without any basis in literature or fact or history. Brandon gives us a good example of how to base things on evidence, not fancy.
I too have gotten so much from Hitchens, so thank you for the compliment. Theres a few things I just cant stand, but overall man did he help rip the bandaid off for me.
When I was a teen in deep depression and studied th.e bible and these stories I was frustrated and confused, I was really seeking! I still do believe in a creator, but no longer sold on the fact that every word and book is inspired! The thing to is when I brought these up with others in the church, these mind blowing events I was told "Do not lead unto your own understanding." My teenage inner self would scream out " WTF!" I m not an atheist and still find so much value and therapy watching these videos!
Thanks Brandon for the work put in to do this (and all of your other ) videos. I have said for a long while, I believe these men are the very reason Conservative Christians are so willing to give unwavering support to morally questionable political candidates🤷🏻♀️
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." A quote Christians need to hear when they focus on the forgiving and selfless nature of Jesus in the NT and brush aside the wrathful, barbaric, and self-centered nature of Yahweh in the OT.
@@Goldenhawk583 Oh I agree. It’s is Christians that perceive him to be much more loving and accepting yet Jesus was even more vindictive than Yahweh when it came to after people died. Yahweh was content to punish the living, but Jesus was content to do it after a person died and for all eternity.
What's even worse is Revelation wherein God unleashes locusts unable to kill for the sole purpose of torturing all of mankind except for True Christians
The bible makes way more sense when you view it as a bunch of stories that ancient people made up to help them understand why the world was the way it was. It at least explains the inconsistencies, contradictions, and incredibly horrible behaviors.
And that YHWH was the main god of the Hebrews rather than the Lord of Everything. The conflicts with the Canaanites come into perspective when you understand the stories as the Hebrews attempting to maintain their religion and culture among a related ethnic group with an established urban civilization. In those days, gods were local. If you were in Babylon, you at least paid lip service to the Babylonian gods. If your travels took you to Egypt, you acknowledged those gods. In that milieu, the Hebrews turning to Canaanite gods was expected. And distressing to those Hebrews who kept to their deity.
The horrors of the bible feel impersonal, in the same way many of the terrible events in history do, and so lack emotional impact. If you really meditate on them, maybe even imagine your loved ones in those scenarios, it makes the love and worship of Yahweh very challenging.
yes!! This is exactly why i try to sometimes make a more emotional appeal. Call it a fallacy, but i think its correcting our natural bias to view the past as somehow less real! Thats why once I had kids it all came to a head.
I think you nailed why Christians are able to compartmentalize all the gore in the Bible as not too bad. Brandon’s videos put it right in your face while you will never hear sermons mention it.
Yahweh, like Jove and Jehovah is the Pagan Jupiter. Temples dedicated to Jupiter were translated to the Temple of Solomon. The Priests assigned to Jupiter are id as Priests of Melchizedek. Melchi = King and Zedek = Jupiter.
@@harveywabbit9541Yahweh predates jupiter by a long ass time. Yahweh is one of the oldest known God’s, along with being the mixing of even older Gods. Yahweh originally comes from canaanite’s, but the Gods who make up yahwheh are even older.
If he's only going to evaluate the bible on the basis of needing explicit biblical prescription, there's an awful lot of Christian theology that he's going to need to discard. He may need to initiate yet another Christian denomination, since that doesn't sound like any form of Christianity I've heard of.
The “well, he never actually commanded polygamy” thing is so ridiculous. As if this god is ever shy about forbidding and punishing behavior he doesn’t like. At the very least polygamy was indisputably not as important to him as mixing fabrics, shaving, boiling baby goats in their mother’s milk, etc.
“Are they just ignorant of passages like this?” Yes! They are. I was a Christian for 43 years. Four decades plus of church attendance. Wanna know how many times this passage was preached upon from the pulpit, in Sunday School, or within a Bible study? Zero!
All the ancient Egyptian stuff written in the Bible, like with Joseph, the Exodus, etc., is PURE fiction. Such events would have had huge amounts of evidence in Egyptian history to back it up. There is NOTHING in the archeological record. "Well they erased it," doesn't work. There are efforts of Egyptians trying to erase things from their history and they failed to do it. One pharaoh was so disliked, they destroyed every image of him and his wife and prohibited his name to be spoken, yet we know all about it today. If all the stuff in the Bible about Egypt were real, we would have a HUGE amount of archeological evidence. It was completely fabricated by ancient Hebrews.
@@nezz0r there's scholarly thought out there about that there's also some that believe that could've originated from the habiru (they were known as plunderers just like the shashu of Yahweh were) and it's many different factions of Canaanite groups that became the Hebrews/Israelites/judahites that were able to get out from under the thumb of their Egyptian overlords during the collapse of the bronze age there's also some thought that Yahweh could be one of the gods or a remnant of a god from Akentaen (misspelled) Egyptian pharaoh that moved the Up to northern parts of Egypt and was quasi monotheistic.
@@CommonSense_Skeptic Interesting. I mean there are some points which may connect them from what I have heard. First, I find it interesting that the common Egyptians somehow disliked the ancient Israelites which can be found here: Genesis 43:32 "32So they set the meal for him by himself, and for them by themselves, and for the Egyptians who ate with him by themselves, because the Egyptians could not eat bread with the Hebrews, for that is an abomination to the Egyptians. " Genesis 46:33-34 "33And it will be when Pharaoh calls you and says, ‘What is your occupation?’ 34then you shall say, ‘Your servants have been keepers of livestock from our youth and until now, both we and our fathers,’ that you may live in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination to the Egyptians.”" If it was just a small family then why would they truly dislike especially them? And then we have some other interesting things: Joseph is known for his multi colored coat. The Hyksos had such clothing. The Hyksos did not come to power by military actions. So did Joseph. The Hyksos enslaved the Egyptians. So did Joseph. The Hyksos were expelled from Egypt. So did the Israelites. The Hyksos origin is not really known and no one knows what really happened to them afterwards. The ancient Israelites origin is seemingly also not really known outside the religious texts. The Hyksos were disliked by the Egyptians. So were the ancient Israelites. The Hyksos robbed the Egyptians while being expelled. So did the ancient hebrews. The Hyksos capital Avaris was located in the near the region of goshen. Genesis 47:27 "27Now Israel lived in the land of Egypt, in Goshen, and they took possession of property in it and were fruitful and became very numerous." If I'm wrong about any of this points please correct me.
@@nezz0r the Hykos were like 1500 bc I think they're just a little bit too early to be the Hebrews but sure some of their descendants in the northern Egypt area could have started worshiping Yahweh you have to figure the collapse of the bronze Angels around 1200 BC And around 12 or 1300 BC in Egyptian stele we first mention that we have found about the Shashu of Yahweh could some the descendants of the Hykos and others that followed Aktenhaten have been groups that formed the Shashu and or the judahites, sure. No guarantees but it's a possibility. Just remember the Israelites and the worshipers of Yahweh or different groups originally it seems as though most of people who were part of the Israelites and the northern kingdom their ancestors are from Mesopotamia and are other Canaanites, whereas it seems like the ancestors from those who worship Yahweh were southern Canaanites and or northern egyptians who could've got some of their ideas merged with the Canaanite especially as they moved north and ended up forming Judah
The descriptive/prescriptive thing is such a bad argument. YHWH is not shy at all when people do things he doesn’t condone. People tend to die, in fact. If he had a problem with all of the things Moses and Joshua did, do you think he’d stay quiet? Heck no. At _best_ you can argue that he’s ambivalent toward that behavior, and that’s just as bad IMO.
@@MindShift-Brandon True, but even if we didn’t have all of these damning verses, God would _still_ be perfectly fine allowing these things. Just tolerating them is enough to prove this is not a just, loving God.
they could just admit that yahweh is not univocally presented as either all-powerful or all-benevolent (he's usually a rampaging narcissist modeled on human rulers), but mo, they settle for saying, actually, god is schitzophrenic.
They do not say these things in good faith, they at some level know that they are lying and spinning. St. Paul and Eusebius(First Bishop of Rome) both endorsed the idea of the pious lie. ESV, Romans 3:7 "But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?", and I will have to look up where the first Bishop of Rome also endorsed lying for God.
I went to church for the first time at 19, with my in-laws, and they read about Elisha. I remember looking around horrified because I’d never heard this story of an insane mass slaughter and seeing everyone nod and think it was normal was genuinely sickening. Seeing how people can justify these stories, it makes sense why so many people are okay with the various genocides happening now. I hope this video can make even just one person see through what’s been normalized their whole life.
@@avivastudios2311 many American politicians and corporations are supporting (monetarily) the genocides in Palestine and the Congo currently, but also historically, the United States has committed multiple genocides against Native Americans, even using Christianity to justify it.
Thanks for the video :3 Omg, poor Hagar. I know that this woman probably never existed, but if she did, I feel so bad for her. She had such a miserable life. I'm looking forward to the next chapter of our SBS. It'll be especially interesting for me to listen to your comments about the story of Ananias and Sapphira. Even when I was a Christian, I always struggled with this story. And you deconstruct such stories so well.
Early programming, and a society built on Christian principles (we're seeing how great they are!) that continually affirms that programming. That's what I understand when I've asked myself the same question (and keep on asking it). Even Western education originated, and was formed by, the Church (notice the emphasis on mistakes and being punished for them?) So everything that extends from that education is also informed by the Church.
Because you never read the bible, also the reason you take this video this serious also shows you didn’t read the bible. Just listening to what others tell you.
First time hearing about Jephthah absolutely sickening.. I thought I knew the word, evidently not. Thank you for all you're doing to expose this- the genocide, the misogyny, the confusion and the contradictions.
My pleasure, it really is amazing how many things christians never heard of despite being believers for years and years. a telling sign of their spiritual leadership and churches etc.
I hadn't heard that story until attending university and studying religion as my minor. It completely disproves the whole "God hates human sacrifice, particularly child sacrifice, which is why he ordered the deaths of so many Pagan civilisations" as taught in Sunday school.
Go to Galatians four, where we are reminded that Abraham, his wives, his children, and the Jerusalems are all allegorical. None of the characters or places (biblical) ever existed outside of myth. The word Jerusalem, in the bible, has no connection to a historical building on this planet. Same with the word Israel, which every Rabbi knows is a compound of El (god) and Isra (phallus). The scam will go on and on til we are are gone in one big flash.
@@harveywabbit9541 Well you could learn some interesting things from this allegory though. For example if you have not just one but an entire tribe you could use the idea behind giving your women to kings to obtain "royal blood". If these women stay strongly associated with that tribe and teach that mindset to their children as well then you have essentially a foothold in that nation. And if you do that with multiple nations then you would had multiple footholds. Maybe after some generation your tribes-men would become pharaoh/king and by that you kind of rule the nations. That would kind of suit the idea of being the father of nations. You would have essentially foreign kings ruling different lands. Imagine how much power your group would wield. One land goes against you? Then you could use the others to cr[..]sh it. That would be an incredible strategy. Well it isn't truly backed by the text though because there the children came directly from abraham.
@@nezz0r Baby Zeus became Baby Abraham. Neither ever were. Sarah is two words and is identical to Asherah and Torah. The Sar is male (phallus) and the ah is the appended female. In simple language, she is a double-sexed goddess. Asher is the phallus and is another name of Isra. The Tor in Torah is the pillar (phallus symbol) with the appended ah. Same with Terah which can also be spelled Tarah. Phallic and sun worship permeates the bible.
Thankfully, Galatians four reminds us that Abraham, his wives, his children, and the two Jerusalems are purely allegorical. They are not historical in any way, shape, or form.
The more we x-christians deconstruct and analyse the bible, the more broken it is when we question ourselves and have second thoughts. Open-minded people like us are not deceived and programmed like robots. Another straight to the point video !
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the MOCKERS, HATERS, and SLANDERERS of GOD and JESUS CHRIST Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW and are fully aware that they unitedly - 1. mock and degrade the Bible as just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies and fairy tales. 2. dishonor the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ and slander him as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD 3. dishonor Jesus Christ and slander him as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by his GOD and Father all authority in heaven and on earth. ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the LIARS, DECEIVERS, and MURDERERS of HUMAN BEINGS Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE is the ONLY BOOK in the world that produces all the LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE PERSONS on EARTH GOD KNOWS that imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and obey his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their obedience to all that were written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are clearly the loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead" is GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Well my thoughts are If EL/Yahweh didn't condone these immoral behaviours why didn't he condemn them in the first place? When someone doesn't condemn an immoral act, 9 times out of 10 it means: A) they don't care or B) they condone it.
Or they condemn it in some people and not in others. So not a justice system, a "pick your side" system. Given that Yahweh started out as a war god, I guess that makes sense.
Greetings, Brandon - I know you said that your focus would be on the Old Testament; I observe that the story of Issac and Ishmael, Sarah and Hagar is seized upon by believers in Galatians 4:30-31; Christians are the descendants of Sarah and Issac, unbelievers, are descended from the slave Hagar and her son Ishmael Talk about generational punishment The Old Testament is often the vehicle for believers to pride themselves on how much THEY aren’t like THOSE people and JESUS is BETTER - but it’s the same God. Thanks again!
Man you really laid down the laws with this one. All pun intended. I feel like this is one of your best Tuesday Takedowns. I think you took every point or counter point into consideration and had some actual biblical backing or logic to absolutely smash the argument. Beautifully done Brandon! You just can't defend this fiction when you see it all this way. Its clear as day that this God is only for his own people and his chosen few. And the apologetics to defend it is just utterly ridiculous. The psychology at work on worshipers is honestly scary.
@avivastudios2311 there's also a lot of verses that "prove" he annihilated entire people groups for not believing in him. There should never be a reason for genocide.
David's poor innocent baby being tortured/murdered for his father's sins has to be the cruelest story in the Bible, closely followed by Lot being willing to let a mob have their way with his virgin daughters, and then Jephthah's sacrifice of his daughter. Insane that touching the Ark will result in instant death, but these crimes are fully sanctioned.
The SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE of HUMAN BEINGS and the LOVE, KINDNESS, FAVORS, and BLESSINGS of GOD and his CHRIST GOD KNOWS that the submissiveness of lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth to the authority of Jesus Christ and obedience to his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" all written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely bring them honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead" is NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of Religions but GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15. The LIES, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS of ATHEISTS Atheists obviously don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence.... unbothered and just don't care even if their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and the BIBLE is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. The LIES, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS of CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS, HINDUS, etc. Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions obviously don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence..... unbothered and just don't care even if their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
Yep, certainly is. Also another demonstration of the many contradictions in the bible…Ezekiel 18:20, “The one who sins is the one who will die. The ch(i)ld will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the ch(i)ld.” Clearly, another illustration of “god” not following his own moral code….
The only good news is that all of those stories are made up. It's just horrible people lean on this crap as ok. Great work as always Brandon! Perfect take down.
However, the sad thing is people attempt to recreate these stories in modern life. It’s the conquistadors killing the Aztecs and Maya because of “ human sacrifice” It’s Israeli defense officials quoting Judges before attacking Gaza. I wish the Bible stayed in the world of fiction.
One thing to note: when God doesn't explicitly *command* someone to do something, but *blesses* them with success, power, dynasty, fulfilled promises, etc, I don't know how anyone could say that God didn't condone the various actions we'd see as reprehensible. . Edit: of course you immediately brought the point up as soon as I commented 😆
I think this touches on something I see occasionally from Christians. They will try to show you that God is all good/all loving. So they will point to things in the Bible where he shows love, acceptance, and forgiveness. However, when other contradictory passages are pointed out, they sometimes fall back to something along the lines of “God knows better than you, that thing he did really does cause the most good. You just can’t understand it since you’re not omniscient like he is.” I can understand that. This world really might be the one with most good. Maybe God really did have to make the choices he did for some grand plan. But it can’t be both ways. You can’t say he is evidently all good, but also say where he doesn’t seem all good he really is you just have to trust. I don’t believe in this god. If you want to prove his existence to me by showing me he’s all good, his all goodness needs to be self evident to me.
Maybe the moral of the difference between Abraham and Jephthah is that one was a boy (and god intervened) and other was a girl (and god did not intervene). More misogyny from imaginary being.
@@harveywabbit9541 Find out when both pieces of literature were written,then see if that's possible. Why are you here making up lies on a channel that's debunking lies?
@@sundayoliver3147 “Iphigenia in Tauris is a drama by the playwright Euripides, written between 414 BCE and 412 BCE.” Not sure the Hebrew Bible had been composed yet by that time. Are you saying that Euripides drew inspiration from the Jephthah story? Because sure as hell they have a lot in common. As someone who was familiar with the Greek and Roman classics well before reading the Bible, the story of Jephthah’s daughter reminded me of Iphigenia as soon as I heard it.
@@pansepot1490 Virtually every bit of the bible was stolen from Pagan myth. Also see the story of Zeus and Hermes visiting Baucis. The goose in this tale was sacred to Juno. The linden tree was also sacred to Juno. The Oak tree was sacred to Zeus. The story was perverted into the story of Lot and his wife. Recommend Hebrew Mythology or Science of the Bible, by Milton Woolley.
I’ve never been met with such consistent and well organized discussions on these topics as you. You’ve helped me organize my own thoughts and observations from my experience with this religion and it’s helped tremendously! I don’t know if there’s a saying for us atheists that resembles “you’re doin the lords work” but that’s how I feel 😂
I was talking with one of my christian friends recently about how much God loves and respects human life. The more you read the bible to more you realize how crazy of an idea that is. It is clear that he doesnt particularly if you arent a part of his specific plan and sometimes life is disregarded simply as an unessecary plot point in the plan
Not specific to this video, but something that absolutely blows my mind is when Christians defend the doctrine and necessity of the existence of Hell, but then try to save people from going there!
Great video as always, the cognitive dissonance is real. For all the times God hardens someone's heart, why couldn't he ever soften anyone's heart to actually save the lives of these innocent people that he supposedly knows and knits in the womb? Thousands of different solutions to all kinds of problems, but God always defaults to violence and evil.
I think that if you, @Brandon, ever do debates like you mentioned in your last update, this topic I think is the most powerful one you could talk about. As a Christian I never heard anything like this perspective about immoral actions.
Your break down of these passages in the Bible is so thorough. I truly wish I could convince a good friend of mine to listen to your content as he was something of a lip service Christian and now seems to be slowly getting stuck in Fundamentalism which I am afraid will end up with him turning into what I was which is an awful thought. Always look forward to your next up 👍
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the MOCKERS, HATERS, and SLANDERERS of GOD and JESUS CHRIST Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW and are fully aware that they unitedly - 1. mock and degrade the Bible as just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies and fairy tales. 2. dishonor the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ and slander him as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD 3. dishonor Jesus Christ and slander him as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by his GOD and Father all authority in heaven and on earth. ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the LIARS, DECEIVERS, and MURDERERS of HUMAN BEINGS Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD and the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE is the ONLY BOOK in the world that produces all the LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE PERSONS on EARTH GOD KNOWS that imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and obey his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" in their obedience to all that were written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are clearly the loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. Jesus Christ KNOWS that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead" is GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Its crazy that we can spend years in the church and never see the actual truth that lies in the bible. "We can never know gods will" .... But can't we?? "Gods ways are higher" geez i mean i guess thats an easy way to excuse all his horrible behavior. "God/jesus loves all" but does be really? Just based on the bible alone we can see how that is untrue.
What was immoral was God commanding the guy who took gold from Jericho, for him and his entire family to be stoned to death. Christians would say, well his family could have spoken up. I like to ask them, would you call the police on your father for stealing something if it can cause him his life?
@@Justas399 so if you stole something, you're perfectly ok with your family getting the death penalty for it? I cannot fathom where you get your sense of justice from.
@@Justas399 if I steal something, it’s moral for my innocent children to be executed with me? Dude, this belief system has seriously messed up your moral compass.
Brandon, you left out the best part of the story of the golden calf. You mentioned the Levites killed about three thousand of their people for worshipping the golden calf, but you forgot to mention what happened to the man who made the idols and led the insurrection: Aaron wasn't killed for making or worshipping idols; he was promoted to high priest and his sons were selected to be priests.
@@cidolphus I know right? That's happened to me so many times. When I first heard someone say that after the flood, Noah took the lid off the ark, I said "it doesn't say that. I've read it a thousand times. I'd have noticed." Then I looked it up and holy cow it actually says that. Did you know that in the book of Luke, if you follow the timeline, Jesus actually ascended at night on the day he resurrected? Did you know that Israel and Judah weren't the only ones to practice circumcision? Jeremiah 9:25-26 says that Egypt, Ammon, Moab, and all those who live in distant wildernesses also practice circumcision. Ok I haven't read Jeremiah a thousand times (or even once really) but how could it say that given that God invented circumcision to set Abraham and his descendants apart from everyone?
@@XarXXon Adam and Eve are found in myths worldwide. In Egypt they were Nut (Heaven) and Geb (Earth). They had three boys who became three boys of Adam and Eve. The third son, Seth, became the third son of Adam and Eve. For funnies, look up the separation of Nut and Geb. Geb has a phallus that stretches from earth to heaven. All was darkness until Shu (Air) pushed them apart. This great event was announced by the gods proclaiming "Let there be light." If Shu had never pushed Nut (Vagina) and Geb (Penis) apart, we would remain in perpetual darkness and no work would be done. Only Chaos (the six nights in Gen 1) would remain.
@@XarXXon Adam (Earth) and Eve (Heaven) are found in myths worldwide. They were Geb and Nut in Egyptian myth. These gods had three sons who became the three sons of Adam and Eve. Noah (Earth) had three sons. Winter, Spring, and Summer. Terah (Earth) had three sons. Winter, Spring, and Summer. Job (Earth) had three daughters. Winter, Spring, and Summer Each of these three lives for 120 days/degrees during the year of 360 days/degrees. The Amorites (intercalary days of five) make up the year of 365 days. The Egyptian intercalary days of five = Osiris, Horus the Younger, Seth, Isis, and Nephthys. The writers disparged the Amorites as they knew they were Egyptians.
P1) If it happens according to God’s will, then God endorses it. P2) Everything happens according to God’s will. C) Therefore, God endorses everything. In any case, I see no convincing evidence the stories in the Hebrew and Greek texts were literal / historical events.
So weird that God just simply cannot even be in the presence of evil, to the point that he's just so unable to to simply forgive his most beloved creation; yet, he's willing to work so closely though the evil of man (pretending that natural disasters and animal suffering aren't a thing) for good. It's almost as if evil was a part of the plan from the start.... If that God were real to begin with.
@@A-WallfromAL Jesus died for nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. He resurrected after the sacrifice, then we just continue to sin. Meaning this was just another fetish of bloodlust that God did.
@@A-WallfromAL I also believe that aside from the flood, the most evil crime god ever did was destroy the dinosaurs with a meteor. After millions of years of ruling what sin did the dinosaurs do to deserve such destruction? or God killed them cuz he wanted to? And those creatures burning in hell?
I would be curious if most Christians see the difference in treatment of Israelite vs others as a bad thing. When I used to attend church, the pastors would spin this as a good thing. The Christian was the valued in-group then and now.
It's a normal thing to treat your family differently than your coworkers or total strangers, you love all people but you love your family differently than stragers.
hey mind shift, i really like your logo animation at 0:26. i like how the outside squares line up with the middle one showing how we can change our views when we see the truth or have enough evidence to support that
It seems so inconsistent and bad of God, that he forbids to intermingle with gentiles, but then allowed his people to take the young girls of the gentiles for themselves. Even, IF they give it a marriage certificate.... this should be forbidden by a just and righteous God. But he is even going against his own command. In this video you point out a lot of things I have not yet thought of since leaving Christianity. Yikes, so many bad things. Every day I learn more how bad this religion is....
Don't forget that 'devoting' a conquered city to God meant killing every living thing (plant and animal) and destroying every building and every object in a massive sacrificial thank-offering for the victory.
...and don't mess with the two she bears who mangled children (Gemini). The two bears, Ursa major and Ursa minor, are ready to pounce on anyone who pisses off old baldy.
Oh my 😅 what an AMAZING comeback for the description and perscription examples!! Brandon you have just outdone yourself if that’s even possible!?! This was EVIDENCE FILLED to show the absolute worst of the TRUTH ABOUT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 💯 RIGHT HERE. All your hard work here shows you Know what you are talking about and HAVE COMMUNICATED IT EFFECTIVELY. Evil or false for sure and we both bought in thinking this was truth as taught by our parents 😢
So man-made!! these are people doing evil and trying to justify the actions through turning God into a completely unpredictable and arbitrary power with all of the failings he supposedly is superior to.
REALLY appreciate your growing body of work Please consider debating: Church of the eternal logos, Jay Dyer, Made by Jimbob All of these sites are selling young men on orthodox Christianity (my son included) utilizing pseudo-philosophical claptrap - often host open call in debates - I’m surprised they haven’t published a critique of your content - hope u will call them all out
I am one of the happy few who grew up in a family where religion was not important and when I learned about these stories (Catholic region of the Netherlands, Catholic school, normal to learn about Catholicism at school) I was not impressed and I realized quickly that religion was manmade. Took a bit longer to chuck out all supernatural and I am a happy atheist the last forty years.
When Elisha was being verbally teased for being bald, he called out a curse and the Lord answered him. But when kids are being teased (both verbally and physically), when they are being called far worse names, where is the Lord then? I had a third grade teacher who had a reputation for singling out at least one student for harassment and encouraging the other students to go after that child. She put a neighbor boy in the state hospital. We are talking 8-9 year old kids. Nothing was ever done to that teacher as far as I know of, although ALL the parents knew that she was vicious. If only just one of us had had Elisha's power! I think it was that experience (among others) that started me on the road to deconstruction: I simply could not reconcile what I was learning in Saturday morning Catechism Class and Sunday morning Mass with what I was learning Mondays through Fridays in Mrs. Wicker's third grade classroom at Grand Prairie Elementary. Both of those things could not be right; one had to be true and one had to be false--and guess which one had the most impact? Two hours per week versus 40?
Listening to the Abraham part. When he lies about Sarah being his sister, it’s only a half lie. They had the same father- different mothers (Gen 20:12). I have never heard a Sunday school lesson or sermon that mentions that they were in fact siblings.
If I were going to construct a religion based solely on the Old Testament, without leaving out a single word or using any external or extraneous cultural or theological influences, the finished product would probably look about like ISIS and other Takfiri groups who, IMO, are the "most biblical" of any religious currents in the world today.
Hello Brandon, I have a video suggestion, A video about NDEs and why they aren't good evidence for an afterlife, my reasoning personally is that if your evidence of heaven and hell is that so and so nde shows it you must also apply that logic to the many out there that contradict, and then none are true or say the christian ones are true and your god let someone die and see false things and go to hell for believing it the rest of their life. I think it would be an interesting topic for you to discuss.
SATAN the DEVIL and the ANTI-CHRISTS bring DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS to HUMAN BEINGS Atheists who believe the LIE of Satan the Devil that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD will definitely bring themselves nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, obviously lied to, deceived, and murdered by Satan the Devil, the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings. Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who believe the LIES and false teachings of the Anti-Christs about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, obviously lied to, deceived, and murdered by Satan the Devil, the Father of Lies and Murderer of Human beings. GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS Lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" will definitely live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God", clearly honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful GOD with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death. The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
Let's add some more context to the Joseph story: Genesis 41:33-36 "33So now let Pharaoh look for a man understanding and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34Let Pharaoh take action and appoint overseers over the land, and let him exact a fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven years of abundance. 35Then let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming, and let them store up the grain for food in the cities under Pharaoh’s authority, and let them keep watch over it. 36And let the food be appointed for the land for the seven years of famine which will happen in the land of Egypt, so that the land will not be cut off during the famine.”" That sounds wise at first to gather food so that you are prepared for an upcoming famine. But first let me remind you that the food was gathered from the common people. That is important later on. Now let's continue. Genesis 47:13-21 "13Now there was no food in all the land because the famine was very heavy, so that the land of Egypt and the land of Canaan languished because of the famine. 14And Joseph gathered all the money that was found in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan for the grain which they bought, and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house. 15Then the money came to an end in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan. So all the Egyptians came to Joseph and said, “Give us food, for why should we die in your presence? For our money is gone.” 16Then Joseph said, “Give up your livestock, and I will give you food for your livestock, since your money is gone.” 17So they brought their livestock to Joseph, and Joseph gave them food in exchange for the horses and the flocks and the herds and the donkeys; and he fed them with food in exchange for all their livestock that year. 18Then that year came to an end. And they came to him the next year and said to him, “We will not hide from my lord that our money has come to an end, and the livestock are my lord’s. There is nothing left for my lord except our bodies and our land. 19Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we and our land will be slaves to Pharaoh. So give us seed, that we may live and not die, and that the land may not be desolate.” 20So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, for every Egyptian sold his field because the famine was severe upon them. Thus the land became Pharaoh’s.21As for the people, he moved them to the cities from one end of Egypt’s border to the other end. " There was a famine and he gathered before the famine happens much grain from the people. Now while the famine is happening he is gathering ALL the money that was found in Egypt and Canaan by SELLING them back THEIR own food until they had no money left. The common people ask for food again and what did Joseph tell them? Since they have no money because he has taken that from them he told them to give him their livestock. Remember the grain was gathered from the people and the money was also gathered from the people. It is originally their money and their grain and he sold that grain to them for their livestock. After the year has ended the people still had no money and need food. So what has happened now? They need to sell their home and even themselves as slaves. He literally used the famine to rob the common people of everything they have. Also take notice that he completely removed them from their homes in (21). Like gathering a cattle-labor force into designed areas (cities). Now let's take a look how the ancient Israelites are about to live. First let's look at the promise for them. Genesis 45:18 18and take your father and your households and come to me, and I will give you the best of the land of Egypt, and you will eat the fat of the land.’ As you can see the BEST of the land of Egypt is promised to them. Did that stay that way in the famine? Let's see. Genesis 47:6 " 6The land of Egypt is at your disposal; have your father and your brothers settle in the best of the land, let them settle in the land of Goshen; and if you know any excellent men among them, then put them in charge of my livestock.”" Here the land is at their disposal. And they are now officially allowed to settle in the best of the land. Remember the common Egyptians will own nothing any longer after verse 13-20. All land is owned by the Pharaoh except the land of the priests. Now let's take a look how the Israelites are living. And by the way I consider this Pharaoh a traitor to his own people. Genesis 47:27 "27Now Israel lived in the land of Egypt, in Goshen, and they took possession of property in it and were fruitful and became very numerous." The Israelites took POSSESSION of the property in it while the Egyptians have NOTHING aside from the Pharaoh and the priests. The famine was used to rip off the common people living in Egypt of everything they owned and worked for while his Israelites just moved in and took possession of the best of the land. With the help of the Pharaoh and the famine Joseph robbed the entire population of Egypt aside from the priests and at the same time took possession of the best parts of the land. Maybe that could be a good enough reason why they reversed the situation later in the Exodus story. But let's also take a look at the maybe excuse from the same chapter: Genesis 47:25 "25So they said, “You have kept us alive! Let us find favor in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh’s slaves.”" Here you may say: Oh, look the common Egyptians are "thankful" since they survived the famine. True, but I think it is also necessary to understand that being in a crisis takes a massive mental burden on people. In short at that time they most likely only thought about survival. But what do you think will happen after everything calms down and that mental burden starts to lessen? Then they should become more and more aware that they lost everything and understand what it means to be slaves. Additionally they will also recognize that foreigners took property in their own land while they themselves are slaves in their own land. I mean it should be obvious that this will create massive problems. Take a look at today's world and see how people like it to be "colonized" or how people like mass migration. This is literally a mixture of both. No one can tell me that they just s[...]ck that up like it is nothing. And by the way did the Egyptians really like Joseph? Let's take a look at this quote here: Genesis 43:32 "32So they set the meal for him by himself, and for them by themselves, and for the Egyptians who ate with him by themselves, because the Egyptians could not eat bread with the Hebrews, for that is an abomination to the Egyptians. " Isn't that interesting? Seemingly liked by the Pharaoh but not so much by the others. Genesis 46:33-34 "33And it will be when Pharaoh calls you and says, ‘What is your occupation?’ 34then you shall say, ‘Your servants have been keepers of livestock from our youth and until now, both we and our fathers,’ that you may live in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination to the Egyptians.”" Another interesting one. It seems like the Egyptians didn't like these people yet the Pharaoh again does. Another thing to ask is: Why did the Pharaoh play along with this? I assume greed would be the best answer to this. For this let's recall: Genesis 47:14 "14And Joseph gathered all the money that was found in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan for the grain which they bought, and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house. " Into whose house had the money being gathered? Into the Pharaoh's. And to wrap it up let's take a look at the reason for the counter attack of the egyptians: Exodus 1:10 "1Now these are the names of the sons of Israel who came to Egypt with Jacob; they came each one with his household: 2Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah; 3Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin; 4Dan and Naphtali, Gad and Asher. 5And all the persons who came from the loins of Jacob were seventy in number, but Joseph was already in Egypt. 6Then Joseph died, and all his brothers and all that generation. 7But the sons of Israel were fruitful and increased and multiplied and became exceedingly mighty, so that the land was filled with them. 8And a new king arose over Egypt, who did not know Joseph. 9And he said to his people, “Behold, the people of the sons of Israel are more and mightier than we. 10Come, let us deal wisely with them, lest they multiply and it be in the event of war, that they also join themselves to those who hate us and fight against us and go up from the land.”" At the end I think we can say that: *A crisis is the one of the best excuses to take the possessions of people away without violence.* --- We might even argue that the ruling system after the famine might be something similar to a prototype version of communism. Everything in possessions of the rulers and no private property for the common people.
You can see how the Abrahamic religions give a good foundation for not just colonization, but for maintaining a ruling class ("the chosen people"),, the "house servants" just below them, and the slavery of the rest. Not coincidentally a model for many governments in the Western world.
I can clearly see your frustration twords those blind people who always come up with a excuse to anything you expose how ridicules and twisted religion is. You just keep on doing it bro. You make bible studies real and I love it. Rock on brother 🤘🏽
I was thinking about how much responsibility lies in such a controversial book as the Bible, in the everlasting conflict that goes on in Palestine. The conflict is endemic in the book itself and in the state of mind that follows, how can we pray for peace to such god? I would love to see your take on this argument, Brandon: how our world is affected by the inner contradictions of the book that roots three of its most important religions.
Even though the bible is "responsible" for a lot of things it doesn't seem to be necessarily the case here, right now is just a land dispute, good old fashioned colonialism at play with a side of ethno nationalism.
@@bluester7177 Disagree. I think the notion of "god provided this land for you" goes very deep-- in fact, Brandon illustrated it in this very video. To me, colonialism is an offshot of this attitude, a symptom not a cause. (Remember, the European colonists felt the land was their by "divine right".)
I am not agreeing with a lot of what you say but you have the merits to expose those hypocrites who pretend to know the bible and having so called ministeries... And you are very articulate. Good!
Even when it's just description, how many times God has rewarded bad behaviour in the bible with no condemnation? It's very easy to use the argument that "God didn't say that and people are just misunderstanding the bible", God is supposedly an All-Knowing, All-Powerful being, if he doesn't want people to misunderstand maybe he should have been more clear and maybe he should give explicit condemnation of all of the behaviours which are bad but he doesn't.
Or He could have told us these things at a time when we weren't all illiterate. Maybe wait until we could read and write and keep accurate records, not have to rely on a couple hundred years of word of mouth.
Amen! Thank you so much for making these hard videos. I remember teaching kids in Sunday School and me questioning. Teaching the Bible to innocent kids is a great way to start the deconstruction
First time watching this channel, love this video! Yes the so-called god of love permits and condones wickedness. I can't go for it, went for it for a good portion of my life, but now cannot go for it. No god of love would allow that or even allow the wickedness that we endure today. No Christian, no Muslim, no tribal person of whatever faith can' convince me that there is a god of love.
You forgot to mention that Abraham did try to give his sister away not just once but twice! Genesis 20:1-7 "1And Abraham journeyed from there toward the land of the Negev and settled between Kadesh and Shur; then he sojourned in Gerar. 2And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, “She is my sister.” So Abimelech king of Gerar sent and took Sarah. 3But God came to Abimelech in a dream of the night and said to him, “Behold, you are a dead man because of the woman whom you have taken, for she is married.” 4(Now Abimelech had not come near her.) Then he said, “Lord, will You kill a nation, even though righteous? 5Did he not himself say to me, ‘She is my sister’? And she herself also said, ‘He is my brother.’ In the integrity of my heart and the innocence of my hands I have done this.” 6Then God said to him in the dream, “Indeed, I know that in the integrity of your heart you have done this, and I also held you back from sinning against Me; therefore I did not let you touch her. 7So now, return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you, and you will live. But if you do not return her, know that you shall surely die, you and all who are yours.”"
DISHONOR, DOWNFALL, and ETERNAL DEATHS bring and cause by ATHEISM and RELIGIONS Willful mockeries, opposition, and defiance of GOD's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" will definitely result in nothing but the dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS of billions and billions of worthless, foolish, hateful, merciless, and cruel Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER Loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" will be honored and rewarded in return with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death. GOD will let all his loving, kind, considerate, and respectful Worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
@@FoursWithinLOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER Loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" will be honored and rewarded in return with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death. GOD will let all his loving, kind, considerate, and respectful Worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
@@jaflenbond7854 If you want to be a mental slave to a cult ideology , it's a free country. But don't expect others to share in your zealotry for ancient superstitions.
@@FoursWithin NO BIBLE, NO GOD and JESUS CHRIST..... JUST DISHONOR, HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS Atheists who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD will definitely bring themselves nothing but dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation" will definitely bring themselves nothing but dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors. The BIBLE, GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS Lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God", clearly honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful GOD with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 but the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" guarantees that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Like I've said for many of your other presentations, 'this is the best one yet' - lol. Your work and insight is of such high quality that you deserve 💐 some honorary doctorates, a Nobel Prize, an Oscar, Grammy and Academy Award. No fooling. You are making a successful honest and accurate critique on the world's most influential book and philosophy and, eye-opening to many, finding it to be seriously faulty.
Thank you, thank you for this video! When I was attending a church in college, I had questions about the “ Old Testament”. The pastor told me not to look at what people did , but look at the commandments. I did not understand that then and I do not buy the idea to not look at the “ descriptions” , but the “ prescriptions” now. This is not how the New Testament writers looked at the Hebrew Bible. They viewed the patriarchs and King David as moral models to follow. They did not differentiate between YHWH’s commandments and protagonists’ actions. If YHWH did not punish them, ancient commentators viewed the unpunished actions as sanctioned by YHWH. I think this type of parsing is simply an apologetic to promote the idea that either YHWH is all-good and the Bible is still inerrant.
Yeah the 'go kill the village except for the untouched girls, give them a month to cry it out then take them as your wives'... the same guys who killed their friends and family become their husbands, with all that trauma that brings with it.
When fundamentalists are forced to choose between an inerrant book or a benevolent God, they choose the book every time. Idolatry never went away, it just changed its format.
I remember very well that the disrespectful treatment of Sara probably set me on the path to deconstruction. No one could or wanted to explain to me why God allowed Abraham to lie. At the time, I was too blind to see that raping Hagar was just as much of a crime. In hindsight, it's hard to imagine what everyone was led to believe.
God didn't immediately punish Abraham for lying. But then he doesn't immediately punish a lot of people for lying. Guess he's a bad God then. This is one of the worst atheist videos I have ever seen.
@@avivastudios2311 I wasn't concerned with punishing Abraham, but with protecting Sarah and Hagar. For an almighty God and Abraham, who has a personal relationship with this almighty God, that was very weak.
I find great irony in how they are all "You must *look* into the book!". But the *second* you do, it's all "Hey, HEY! You weren't supposed to *actually* do that!". Or a "It's *rude* to reveal what you learned!". It's like this excuse, that isn't supposed to be looked into. Which, aligns with cults. "Never question what you are told". You're supposed to nod, smile and go and find an *excuse* for it. Not look *into* it.
@@MindShift-Brandon That doesn't however top the *peak* irony of that mental gymnastic. I think you have seen it but, just to recap it: An apologist says something like "The book doesn't endorse X.". And then they have someone say "Read [passage]". And they open that passage, reads it *silently in their head*. Then just looks at the camera/person and says something among the lines of "You sick [beep]" or "You should be ashamed of yourself.".
@@avivastudios2311 And that's the #1 cause of atheists: Finding out what evil, immoral stuff that book instructs... or the utter absurdities it spouts.
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Thank you all for being here! I'm so tired of this fallacious and myopic view of many of the Bible stories and characters. Hope to help shine a light!
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🎉🎉🎉 you did it again! Thank you
I'd love to see you in a face to face conversation (not debate) with IP. I always think that these more intellectual apologists know on some level that they're lying and I wonder how far their rationales would stretch in an honest conversation with a calm and rational interlocutor. I'll never know, but I wonder how far my rationales would have stretched if I'd ever had someone to really push me to confront these problems when I was still a Christian. I eventually stumbled into it on my own, but I wonder if I could have escaped my indoctrination sooner in this type of a conversation.
Keep up the great work!
I love all of your videos. I have read the Bible hundreds of times. When I was a Christian I would just ignore all of the things that demonstrate what an evil monster the God of the Bible clearly is!
🙌 excited for this
I think that it's funny that Christians think that Atheists are "afraid" of taking the Bible in context. Looking at the Bible in context is how I became an atheist.
right?!
Me too!
me too.
You must not always take the Bible at face value and with your own knowledge because your emotional state may determine what you perceive it to mean versus trying to understand the word of God from Gods perspective alone. To take it from Gods perspective you must also understand the Spiritual gleanings interwoven throughout it. Too many pick up the Bible as non believers in God and attempt to understand it from their non believing perspective and it doesn’t make much sense to them.
@@davidrexford586 God, supposedly, is transcendent and completely above us (Isaiah 55: 8-9), so taking the bible from God's perspective would be impossible for a human (just like the excuse apologists use to dodge the problem of evil, "well, you don't know if that was really evil because you don't have God's perspective). You can't have it both ways - either god's perspective is beyond us, or it isn't.
In any case, it's not like the bible is so complex that it can only be understood by a perfect mind. It's bronze-age simple. It requires interpretation because 1) it's incoherent; and 2) the religion evolves over time, so the believers have to go back and reinterpret their bible to keep up with the times...just like any other product of human imagination.
It is so strange to listen to these familiar stories and realize I used to be able to read them and say, "yep, this God is perfect!"
Twilight zone stuff, man.
oh i get that!
So very true😔🙃
That is an interesting comment. I was just thinking how apologists remind me of the characters in "Its a good life" on the twilight zone. No matter how bad Bill Mumy acts, they HAVE to say "That was a good thing!" because they are so afraid of what he'll do to them.
@@ThinkitThrough-kd4fn So true! A lot of the Christian commenters on here are like, "You're gonna get sent to the cornfield!"
@@presentfuture7563 It just occurred to me that maybe that's what the episode was about.
Maybe the Bible is just a test to see how many people are gullible enough to worship the devil if you name him Yahweh and claim he's really God. 😂
lol have thoughts this before myself.
At least the Gnostics (some of them) thought he was an evil demiurge and an impostor (Yaldabaoth). They may have some wacky beliefs, but that view tracks with the character in the O.T.
According to the gnostic gospels, Jesus was the serpent in the garden of Eden. Can’t wait for Brandon to get into those .
I had thought of a theory that if Satan was the father of lies and God was not the author of confusion then that would possibly conclude that, because of all the different branches of Christianity and disagreements of interpretation and practices, that the bible could actually be a work of satan to cause confusion and chaos and misleading worship among the very people that claim to be worshipping God.
Seems like a reasonable possibility!
Apologists taking the Bible out of context? Well I never 😂
it still always surprises me lol. Like theres so much biblical support for the exact opposite of what is said, that I cannot believe anyone can actually get the words out of their mouth.
@@MindShift-Brandon Strange how often this can be seen especially in their response videos. Underlines the impression that even those are primarily for their own audience.
For some weird reason, I heard that "Well I never!" in Eric Idle's voice... 🤣
@@Wolf-ln1ml Great, now I hear that too 🤔😂
"What is 'out of context'?"
-"Well, that is when you make the bible sound bad."
Touché! I tried to point these out to my pastor brother (without your verbal skills or as many examples) but, his response was repeatedly, “You can’t blame God for what men have done.” Denial!!! 🤦🏼♀️
Especially when God is an imaginary carrot and stick.
Ugh. You can't argue with people like that. They're too afraid to see the truth.
so so frustrating!
Hes on auto pilot
flying a planeload of denial.
No, no. You not understand. That is the Old Testament. 🧐
Once you think critically about these stories you CANNOT go back to worshipping this being.
I have a dear christian friend who thinks I'm just "mad" at god. She thinks that my present belief is a "choice." I have a hard time convincing her otherwise. She once said to me: "Don't you think your emotions are just getting away with you?" I told her frankly that it would be easier emotionally if I just continued to be in the church and be a part of the community I've largely lost. So no, it''s not a choice. It would be like saying I choose to believe the sky is green. She has so much grief over my agnosticism and still, I love her dearly.
@@CJoyArt I totally understand that, conversations I’ve had with people about why I’m not a Christian anymore have been so painful. Explaining to someone that I view their God as evil is even harder than convincing them I believe he’s not real.
@@CJoyArteverything that doesn't fit their view is a "choice". When their view at times moves the goal post on what they consider moral.
Also they commit the mistake of using cherry picking fallacies.
@@calebpeterson3117 Prince of Egypt was also my favorite DreamWorks movie. I can't look at it the same anymore knowing Moses was a horrible person and a sexual predator.
While I'm not excusing Ramses the Pharohs actions, The real reason that he hardened his heart for the last time is cuz Moses and God deliberately ruined his life and abused him on a psychological level he knew that the god Moses worshipped was a mad tyrant.
What are these comments 😂
A friend recently texted me, “happy Passover.” I didn’t say anything, but I thought to myself, “what’s so happy about it? A bunch of babies were killed.” I guess that’s an example of the fact that once you see these things from the outside, they become quite horrific.
And seriously, God didn't know which houses to 'pass' by without a bunch of blood splashed on the doors? I thought he was omniscient.
@@Fair-to-Middling I feel like this god likes to play games. If you don't play by the rules he just made up on a whim, you'll get crushed. Like ants.
He's like a 12 y old sociopath torturing bugs. @@darleneee92
Great point!
In other words "Happy baby killing". 👀
if I had a kid who went around beating up other kids, and did nothing about it, people would reasonably conclude that I either wanted them to do it, or didn't care; saying "well I never told them to do that!" would not get me off the hook lol
1000%!
God never stops a fight.
@@ryeclansen7371 or a rape
God be like: don’t worry Abraham, I care about Ishmael because he happens to come from your sperm too. ( not because he’s a human being made in my image )
Also God won't throw him away because he had an idea what he can still use him for. Real appreciation of human value.
@@dasbus9834 yeah God create another religion through him
@@leodavinci8935 God creates a "blasphemous and false religion" through him, according to Christians, lmao. Which makes it somehow way worse because it means God is complicit in "deceiving the world" that is attributed to Lucifer.
@@leodavinci8935 I guess competition drives innovation 🤔
Ishmael is born at the summer solstice; Ishmael was the genius of winter, because born when the days begin to shorten. He was the precursor of Isaac, and bore the same relation to him as John the Baptist did to Jesus Christ. Ishmael and Isaac were the same as Esau and Jacob. Isaac was the younger. Like Jacob, he came forth clinging to the heels of his brother, as summer always follows winter. The summer solstice to the winter solstice is called decrease (down). Increase (up) is the winter solstice to the summer solstice. These two solstices are the two Jerusalems in Galatians 4.
God's such a petty jerk lmfao.
and he is a myth.
@@harveywabbit9541 Well yeah but if he were real he's an asshole
And people wonder why atheists or anyone other than the abrahamic god talk about god a lot, especially if it involves politics since there are bills or whatever laws being passed that’s religious related
The pettiness makes more sense when you demote YHWH from God of Everything back down to God of the Hebrews, one deity among many. Still a murderous jerk, but understandably so. One deity among thousands can worry about losing followers and be jealous of Its position in their hearts. An all-powerful God of Everything could ensure that there were no other religions and no way for anybody to question Its existence.
I think I've deconstructed today.. After reading only a few chapters in the Bible, and watching some of these videos, it's amazing to think I was a Christian. Time and again, God was neutral to people in his favour, that had multiple wives, and not to mention the murder of 200 people, and their mutilation. A caring and all loving God would never be neutral to these things. He even sent a bear to kill a group of children because they made fun of a bald guy, who was in his favour. It can't be real, if there is a God, he just made the universe because he got bored, and left it to run.
Sounds like a book written by a bunch of men with a lot of drama.
The bunch of men are liars.
And they seem to have a weird obsession with foreskins!
Yeah agree
And the authors were like the of predators in Hollywood, since they wrote Moses to be a Chomo like them.
A lot of trauma too.
“Hey, get off my back, y’all! I didn’t PRESCRIBE a global flood, I just DESCRIBED how I turned on the taps.” -Yahweh.
lol!!
@@MindShift-Brandon "Let it rain for 40 days, and wait for the sewers to back up." -Wm. H. Cosby
Hello
I started backsliding in my faith about a month ago, and now the past few days I've started questioning everything in my faith, watching videos from you and Kristi Burke, and I just feel so lost right now.
I started reading the bible in August 2022 and it completely changed my whole life, I was "born again", I worshipped and loved God, was super passionate about reading scripture, I no longer delighted in my previous sins. I stopped having sex with my boyfriend, looking at pornography, getting drunk, cussing like a sailor, taking God's name in vain, etc. I even left this man I love and had an *amazing* relationship with, because the bible told me not to be unequally yoked. Leaving him was the most heart wrenching thing I ever did, but I felt that God wanted me to because I was being disobedient by staying in a relationship with someone who wasn't as passionate about God as I was. (Thankfully, he and I got back together a month ago.. and since then I have been straying from God.)
My whole walk with God I've felt nothing but shame, guilt, fear. (I didn't grow up in the church btw). I can't even tell you how extremely tormented I've been over my own salvation doubts. Seriously.. Non-stop fear and doubt over my salvation. I've been so beyond sick of this fear for so long, and barely hanging onto my faith, but I HAVE to hold on, otherwise I'm going to be burning in hell forever. And that if I have salvation fears, that means I'm not trusting Jesus' work on the cross enough. I've just been so beyond exhausted for so long, and feeling EXTREME shame for minor sins. Thinking "If I'm truly saved then why do I keep doing the wrong thing? Why can't I just get it right? What's wrong with me? I'm such a disgusting sinner who deserves hell". I've been told I need to learn to receive God's grace that is freely given in Christ. That if I'm in Christ, God sees the perfection of Christ and not my sin, so I don't need to fear because his wrath for my sins was placed on Jesus. But.. how do I know for sure that I'm truly in Christ, that these promises apply to me, and that I'm not a "false believer"? When I've looked at people who have fallen away from the faith, it has honestly terrified me, because it makes me feel insecure about my own faith and salvation. And I think this is why people dismiss others as "never was a true believer" which I also used to say, yet here I am questioning everything, even though I have been 100% convinced previously that this is the truth.. I literally gave up my whole life to follow Jesus.
Although I've never been able to truly admit this to myself, I've never understood why God seems so different in the Old and New Testament. He seems so angry in the Old, and much more love in the New.
There is also a verse that says "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom". And Jesus says "Whoever commits sin is a slave of sin" and "If the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed" but I've honestly felt anything but free since being a Christian.
Not to mention Matthew 11:28, that Jesus will give us true rest, but I've become exhausted.
Constantly examining if I'm bearing fruit of the Spirit and doing good works. Because I know that we are saved by grace through faith, but if your faith is true, then fruit and good works will show. Soooo.. it's become exhaustion.
I could keep going on and on, but this is already so long. Anyways just venting. I am just so lost right now. Because I do believe in a Creator, and a lot of things from the bible still. But I don't know right now
Update: I've deconverted lol
I'm so sorry you're going through this. I was a Christian woman for decades. It destroyed my life. Get out! It's all lies.
"how do I know for sure that I'm truly in Christ, that these promises apply to me, and that I'm not a "false believer"?"
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16
If you have been baptized and you believe in Jesus Christ you are saved, Spirit and flesh are at war within you it's normal Christian life. You have to strengthen your "new man" by the word of God and fellowship of other believers, faith the size of a mustard seed saves if its object is Jesus Christ, I will pray that God would help you in your situation my sister in Christ. ❤🙏
Here's a question: do you think hating yourself is going to bring about love?
@@heavenbound7-7-7-7 It's all lies. All of it.
IT IS ALL SO MUCH at the beginning. There is no rush. Truth is truth. Take your time, keep learning, and studying, and reading. Keep getting new perspectives. It takes a long time for many of us to undo decades of brainwashing.
18:30 - Wait... couldn't God just erase these people's memories of Molek? Of all the false gods? No need to kill them to maintain ideological purity, just erase the bad ideology directly from their minds.
"Bu- Bu- But that would take away their freewill 😖😖" - Christians
right, about 1000 more options then god's go-to
@@SharedPhilosophydang, beat me to it!
@@SharedPhilosophyThat’s the actual excuse for this which is hilarious. As if they were murdered by their own free will. When God literally used God powers to make his people win fights.
Molek can also be spelled as Meleck which means King. Kings were always sun gods and the element Fire.
If you want to shock a christian, ask them to read the full story of Samson. Horrific, unhinged and crazy. Jigsaw has nothing on this dude.
You'd have to tell it as the story of Sam, a person unconnected to the bible first, then do a big reveal.
As soon as it's connected to their god belief the filters that keep the cognitive dissonance away lock down.
Source: decades as one of them then a decade of questioning & deconstructing
The writers sure did a job on Hercules and his 12 labors.
His 12 labors became the 12 Tribes of Israel. They begin with Leo (Judah) and go all the way round to Cancer (Issachar).
Oh no it'll do the opposite trust me 😂
When I used to be a Christian and I read that story and ended up thinking samson is the coolest dude ever after he killed 1000 men with a donkey jaw bone. The confirmation bias when you're brainwashed by religion is crazy
@@SharedPhilosophy This ^^
@@SharedPhilosophy
The donkey who owned the jaw is found in the Cancer constellation. She is the northern ass and her foal is the southern ass.
These are the two asses that Jesus (the sun of many names) rode on into Jerusalem. This Jerusalem is the summer solstice in Cancer.
there are some very kind, compassionate Christians. There are also many (as seen frequently in comment sections) who delight at the thought that people who don't believe as they do will burn in a hell forever. They actually say it and likely consider themselves good people. To try and reason with such people about horrid acts of vengeance is largely futile since vengeance - different from justice - was done and supported by that god and is still a principle that some Christians have no problem with today. Don't know how you can do this week after week, Brandon, and not rage! Good one, as always.
lol, thank you!
It's pretty horrible, isn't it? And call it a slippery slope if you want, but it's only one step away from how in more fundamentalist areas of the world, people dish out their god's supposed vengeance themselves.
@@dasbus9834 And the US would be one of the more fundamentalist parts of the world...
There are also sober Australians. I'm 50 and haven't met any and have lived all over the eastern side of the country. But they exist, I bet both of them are boring to hang out with.
@@julesmasseffectmusic 🤣
One of the people that I miss is Christopher Hitchens. The title of one of his books is "God is not Good." Boy, did you prove his point today! Thank you Brandon!
Brandon is so tempered and fair minded. There's no haughtiness in his delivery, he just hits the nail right in the head every time. I appreciate these videos so much, and the time and effort that he pours into them.
The story of the flood alone proves Hitchens' point quite eloquently in my opinion.
@@nicolasandre9886
It was mean ole Zeus who ordered the rainy season (flood).
@@harveywabbit9541 Nah. it was the Gilgamesh story, which far, far predates the Zeus story. I really wish you would actually do research, it's disturbing to me that you present this stuff in a totally catawampus, meaningless jumble. I get that you're trying to make connections, but you're just spouting your own ideas without any basis in literature or fact or history. Brandon gives us a good example of how to base things on evidence, not fancy.
I too have gotten so much from Hitchens, so thank you for the compliment. Theres a few things I just cant stand, but overall man did he help rip the bandaid off for me.
When I was a teen in deep depression and studied th.e bible and these stories I was frustrated and confused, I was really seeking! I still do believe in a creator, but no longer sold on the fact that every word and book is inspired! The thing to is when I brought these up with others in the church, these mind blowing events I was told "Do not lead unto your own understanding." My teenage inner self would scream out " WTF!" I m not an atheist and still find so much value and therapy watching these videos!
Have you ever explored Deism? Belief in God free from religious organization, superstition, and revelation.
Thanks Brandon for the work put in to do this (and all of your other ) videos. I have said for a long while, I believe these men are the very reason Conservative Christians are so willing to give unwavering support to morally questionable political candidates🤷🏻♀️
Thank you!
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."
A quote Christians need to hear when they focus on the forgiving and selfless nature of Jesus in the NT and brush aside the wrathful, barbaric, and self-centered nature of Yahweh in the OT.
And not even jesus is all that loving and forgiving if you read it with an open mind.,
@@Goldenhawk583 Oh I agree. It’s is Christians that perceive him to be much more loving and accepting yet Jesus was even more vindictive than Yahweh when it came to after people died. Yahweh was content to punish the living, but Jesus was content to do it after a person died and for all eternity.
Not to mention some of the barbaric and self-centered nature of Jesus.
@@sundayoliver3147 Exactly. Him saying that if a person loves their family more than him that they are not worthy of him.
What's even worse is Revelation wherein God unleashes locusts unable to kill for the sole purpose of torturing all of mankind except for True Christians
I like how you just lay it in the line. It’s hard to believe I heard those stories for years and never questioned them. Thanks for all you do.
Even sadder if you do question them but hang on anyways. i did this for years. We were all so far gone, but we made it! and thank you!
The bible makes way more sense when you view it as a bunch of stories that ancient people made up to help them understand why the world was the way it was. It at least explains the inconsistencies, contradictions, and incredibly horrible behaviors.
I like your answer.
Creating answers to questions they feared. Better wrong answers than no answers, right?
Yep. Kings sucked absolute ass, therefore God must suck absolute ass.
And that YHWH was the main god of the Hebrews rather than the Lord of Everything. The conflicts with the Canaanites come into perspective when you understand the stories as the Hebrews attempting to maintain their religion and culture among a related ethnic group with an established urban civilization. In those days, gods were local. If you were in Babylon, you at least paid lip service to the Babylonian gods. If your travels took you to Egypt, you acknowledged those gods. In that milieu, the Hebrews turning to Canaanite gods was expected. And distressing to those Hebrews who kept to their deity.
@@julietfischer5056 the Israelites were Canaanites themselves, which makes them hypocrites, but what’s new about that.
@@kellydalstok8900- They were both semitic peoples.
The horrors of the bible feel impersonal, in the same way many of the terrible events in history do, and so lack emotional impact. If you really meditate on them, maybe even imagine your loved ones in those scenarios, it makes the love and worship of Yahweh very challenging.
yes!! This is exactly why i try to sometimes make a more emotional appeal. Call it a fallacy, but i think its correcting our natural bias to view the past as somehow less real! Thats why once I had kids it all came to a head.
I think you nailed why Christians are able to compartmentalize all the gore in the Bible as not too bad. Brandon’s videos put it right in your face while you will never hear sermons mention it.
@@Jon45678 this channel is so valuable
@alexanderbean7737 An excellent point.
Ah yes, Yahweh, the "live and let live" god 🤪
lol!
Yahweh, like Jove and Jehovah is the Pagan Jupiter. Temples dedicated to Jupiter were translated to the Temple of Solomon. The Priests assigned to Jupiter are id as Priests of Melchizedek. Melchi = King and Zedek = Jupiter.
@@harveywabbit9541Yahweh predates jupiter by a long ass time. Yahweh is one of the oldest known God’s, along with being the mixing of even older Gods. Yahweh originally comes from canaanite’s, but the Gods who make up yahwheh are even older.
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Every "god" was invented by the lying priests. They belong to the category of fiction.
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When we speak of Jupiter (IU Piter) we should go back to Libya.
If he's only going to evaluate the bible on the basis of needing explicit biblical prescription, there's an awful lot of Christian theology that he's going to need to discard. He may need to initiate yet another Christian denomination, since that doesn't sound like any form of Christianity I've heard of.
this is a great point!
The HORRIFYING truth. You are a treasure.
Glad to shine a light!
The “well, he never actually commanded polygamy” thing is so ridiculous. As if this god is ever shy about forbidding and punishing behavior he doesn’t like.
At the very least polygamy was indisputably not as important to him as mixing fabrics, shaving, boiling baby goats in their mother’s milk, etc.
And yeast, don`t forget about how he hates that!
“Are they just ignorant of passages like this?” Yes! They are. I was a Christian for 43 years. Four decades plus of church attendance. Wanna know how many times this passage was preached upon from the pulpit, in Sunday School, or within a Bible study? Zero!
That's it, I'm getting a new Bible and I'm getting a red highlighter.
lol!!
That's sort of what I did and that's how I became an atheist lol
All the ancient Egyptian stuff written in the Bible, like with Joseph, the Exodus, etc., is PURE fiction. Such events would have had huge amounts of evidence in Egyptian history to back it up. There is NOTHING in the archeological record. "Well they erased it," doesn't work. There are efforts of Egyptians trying to erase things from their history and they failed to do it. One pharaoh was so disliked, they destroyed every image of him and his wife and prohibited his name to be spoken, yet we know all about it today. If all the stuff in the Bible about Egypt were real, we would have a HUGE amount of archeological evidence. It was completely fabricated by ancient Hebrews.
agreed!
Is there a possiblity that the ancient hebrews are connected with the Hyksos?
@@nezz0r there's scholarly thought out there about that there's also some that believe that could've originated from the habiru (they were known as plunderers just like the shashu of Yahweh were) and it's many different factions of Canaanite groups that became the Hebrews/Israelites/judahites that were able to get out from under the thumb of their Egyptian overlords during the collapse of the bronze age
there's also some thought that Yahweh could be one of the gods or a remnant of a god from Akentaen (misspelled) Egyptian pharaoh that moved the Up to northern parts of Egypt and was quasi monotheistic.
@@CommonSense_Skeptic
Interesting. I mean there are some points which may connect them from what I have heard. First, I find it interesting that the common Egyptians somehow disliked the ancient Israelites which can be found here:
Genesis 43:32
"32So they set the meal for him by himself, and for them by themselves, and for the Egyptians who ate with him by themselves, because the Egyptians could not eat bread with the Hebrews, for that is an abomination to the Egyptians. "
Genesis 46:33-34
"33And it will be when Pharaoh calls you and says, ‘What is your occupation?’ 34then you shall say, ‘Your servants have been keepers of livestock from our youth and until now, both we and our fathers,’ that you may live in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination to the Egyptians.”"
If it was just a small family then why would they truly dislike especially them? And then we have some other interesting things:
Joseph is known for his multi colored coat. The Hyksos had such clothing.
The Hyksos did not come to power by military actions. So did Joseph.
The Hyksos enslaved the Egyptians. So did Joseph.
The Hyksos were expelled from Egypt. So did the Israelites.
The Hyksos origin is not really known and no one knows what really happened to them afterwards.
The ancient Israelites origin is seemingly also not really known outside the religious texts.
The Hyksos were disliked by the Egyptians. So were the ancient Israelites.
The Hyksos robbed the Egyptians while being expelled. So did the ancient hebrews.
The Hyksos capital Avaris was located in the near the region of goshen.
Genesis 47:27
"27Now Israel lived in the land of Egypt, in Goshen, and they took possession of property in it and were fruitful and became very numerous."
If I'm wrong about any of this points please correct me.
@@nezz0r the Hykos were like 1500 bc I think they're just a little bit too early to be the Hebrews but sure some of their descendants in the northern Egypt area could have started worshiping Yahweh you have to figure the collapse of the bronze Angels around 1200 BC And around 12 or 1300 BC in Egyptian stele we first mention that we have found about the Shashu of Yahweh could some the descendants of the Hykos and others that followed Aktenhaten have been groups that formed the Shashu and or the judahites, sure. No guarantees but it's a possibility.
Just remember the Israelites and the worshipers of Yahweh or different groups originally it seems as though most of people who were part of the Israelites and the northern kingdom their ancestors are from Mesopotamia and are other Canaanites, whereas it seems like the ancestors from those who worship Yahweh were southern Canaanites and or northern egyptians who could've got some of their ideas merged with the Canaanite especially as they moved north and ended up forming Judah
The descriptive/prescriptive thing is such a bad argument. YHWH is not shy at all when people do things he doesn’t condone. People tend to die, in fact. If he had a problem with all of the things Moses and Joshua did, do you think he’d stay quiet? Heck no. At _best_ you can argue that he’s ambivalent toward that behavior, and that’s just as bad IMO.
actually at best you can point to the times he commands it, but i am with you. the middle ground is pretty telling too!
@@MindShift-Brandon True, but even if we didn’t have all of these damning verses, God would _still_ be perfectly fine allowing these things. Just tolerating them is enough to prove this is not a just, loving God.
they could just admit that yahweh is not univocally presented as either all-powerful or all-benevolent (he's usually a rampaging narcissist modeled on human rulers), but mo, they settle for saying, actually, god is schitzophrenic.
Thank you for this! The apologist excuses are so easily debunked, how can they keep repeating them in good faith?
I truly do not know. and I know people like IP are otherwise so smart and knows his bible, so i just dont get it.
Because their lies aren’t for people looking for honesty. Their lies are for the self righteous who want to feel comfortable in their beliefs
They do not say these things in good faith, they at some level know that they are lying and spinning. St. Paul and Eusebius(First Bishop of Rome) both endorsed the idea of the pious lie. ESV, Romans 3:7 "But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?", and I will have to look up where the first Bishop of Rome also endorsed lying for God.
They never question their “beliefs” so they really don’t believe anything.
@@sherrygadberryturner9527 Good point!
I went to church for the first time at 19, with my in-laws, and they read about Elisha. I remember looking around horrified because I’d never heard this story of an insane mass slaughter and seeing everyone nod and think it was normal was genuinely sickening. Seeing how people can justify these stories, it makes sense why so many people are okay with the various genocides happening now. I hope this video can make even just one person see through what’s been normalized their whole life.
Wait, who's okay with genocide?
@@avivastudios2311 many American politicians and corporations are supporting (monetarily) the genocides in Palestine and the Congo currently, but also historically, the United States has committed multiple genocides against Native Americans, even using Christianity to justify it.
@@lilyliz99 The gospel cannot be used to justify evil. What the Americans did back then was an entirely racist and evil thing that Jesus did not want.
Thanks for the video :3 Omg, poor Hagar. I know that this woman probably never existed, but if she did, I feel so bad for her. She had such a miserable life.
I'm looking forward to the next chapter of our SBS. It'll be especially interesting for me to listen to your comments about the story of Ananias and Sapphira. Even when I was a Christian, I always struggled with this story. And you deconstruct such stories so well.
Excellent reveal of how horrible the god character behaves. It's so often ignored or glossed over.
Thank you!
I'm shocked that I didn't realized all of this as a Christian. How can no one see all this?
Early programming, and a society built on Christian principles (we're seeing how great they are!) that continually affirms that programming. That's what I understand when I've asked myself the same question (and keep on asking it). Even Western education originated, and was formed by, the Church (notice the emphasis on mistakes and being punished for them?) So everything that extends from that education is also informed by the Church.
Exactly what I said, now we awake !
Im also shocked! Like how did I miss all of this!? (The OT was kind of boring so zoned out a bit while reading it.)
Me too!
Because you never read the bible, also the reason you take this video this serious also shows you didn’t read the bible. Just listening to what others tell you.
First time hearing about Jephthah absolutely sickening..
I thought I knew the word, evidently not.
Thank you for all you're doing to expose this- the genocide, the misogyny, the confusion and the contradictions.
My pleasure, it really is amazing how many things christians never heard of despite being believers for years and years. a telling sign of their spiritual leadership and churches etc.
I hadn't heard that story until attending university and studying religion as my minor. It completely disproves the whole "God hates human sacrifice, particularly child sacrifice, which is why he ordered the deaths of so many Pagan civilisations" as taught in Sunday school.
Well, technically, Abraham didn't actually lie about Sarah being his sister... But he ALSO lied by omission, ok, my head hurts...
Go to Galatians four, where we are reminded that Abraham, his wives, his children, and the Jerusalems are all allegorical. None of the characters or places (biblical) ever existed outside of myth.
The word Jerusalem, in the bible, has no connection to a historical building on this planet.
Same with the word Israel, which every Rabbi knows is a compound of El (god) and Isra (phallus). The scam will go on and on til we are are gone in one big flash.
...and Abraham, his wives, children, and Jerusalem are all allegorical and never were.
@@harveywabbit9541
Well you could learn some interesting things from this allegory though.
For example if you have not just one but an entire tribe you could use the idea behind giving your women to kings to obtain "royal blood". If these women stay strongly associated with that tribe and teach that mindset to their children as well then you have essentially a foothold in that nation. And if you do that with multiple nations then you would had multiple footholds. Maybe after some generation your tribes-men would become pharaoh/king and by that you kind of rule the nations. That would kind of suit the idea of being the father of nations. You would have essentially foreign kings ruling different lands. Imagine how much power your group would wield. One land goes against you? Then you could use the others to cr[..]sh it. That would be an incredible strategy. Well it isn't truly backed by the text though because there the children came directly from abraham.
@@nezz0r
Baby Zeus became Baby Abraham. Neither ever were.
Sarah is two words and is identical to Asherah and Torah. The Sar is male (phallus) and the ah is the appended female. In simple language, she is a double-sexed goddess. Asher is the phallus and is another name of Isra. The Tor in Torah is the pillar (phallus symbol) with the appended ah. Same with Terah which can also be spelled Tarah.
Phallic and sun worship permeates the bible.
Thankfully, Galatians four reminds us that Abraham, his wives, his children, and the two Jerusalems are purely allegorical. They are not historical in any way, shape, or form.
The more we x-christians deconstruct and analyse the bible, the more broken it is when we question ourselves and have second thoughts. Open-minded people like us are not deceived and programmed like robots. Another straight to the point video !
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Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
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and are fully aware that they unitedly -
1. mock and degrade the Bible as just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies and fairy tales.
2. dishonor the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ and slander him as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
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and
the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
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definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
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who
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Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
is
GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
This video is an awful analysis of the Bible. It basically comes down to him not liking some of the things that God did.
Well my thoughts are If EL/Yahweh didn't condone these immoral behaviours why didn't he condemn them in the first place? When someone doesn't condemn an immoral act, 9 times out of 10 it means: A) they don't care or B) they condone it.
yes!
Or they condemn it in some people and not in others. So not a justice system, a "pick your side" system. Given that Yahweh started out as a war god, I guess that makes sense.
Greetings, Brandon - I know you said that your focus would be on the Old Testament; I observe that the story of Issac and Ishmael, Sarah and Hagar is seized upon by believers in Galatians 4:30-31; Christians are the descendants of Sarah and Issac, unbelievers, are descended from the slave Hagar and her son Ishmael
Talk about generational punishment
The Old Testament is often the vehicle for believers to pride themselves on how much THEY aren’t like THOSE people and JESUS is BETTER - but it’s the same God.
Thanks again!
well put, good addition to the conversation. thanks!
Man you really laid down the laws with this one. All pun intended. I feel like this is one of your best Tuesday Takedowns. I think you took every point or counter point into consideration and had some actual biblical backing or logic to absolutely smash the argument. Beautifully done Brandon! You just can't defend this fiction when you see it all this way. Its clear as day that this God is only for his own people and his chosen few. And the apologetics to defend it is just utterly ridiculous. The psychology at work on worshipers is honestly scary.
Thanks for this level of feedback, man! Appreciate that.
@@MindShift-Brandon absolutely man!
No, God wants to save the world. He cares about people. There are many verses that prove this.
@avivastudios2311 there's also a lot of verses that "prove" he annihilated entire people groups for not believing in him. There should never be a reason for genocide.
David's poor innocent baby being tortured/murdered for his father's sins has to be the cruelest story in the Bible, closely followed by Lot being willing to let a mob have their way with his virgin daughters, and then Jephthah's sacrifice of his daughter.
Insane that touching the Ark will result in instant death, but these crimes are fully sanctioned.
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GOD KNOWS
that the submissiveness of lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth to the authority of Jesus Christ
and obedience to his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
all written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
will
definitely bring them honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
is
NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and fanatics of Religions
but
GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The LIES, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS of ATHEISTS
Atheists
obviously don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence.... unbothered and just don't care even if their LIES that
the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
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the BIBLE is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
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obviously
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence..... unbothered and just don't care even if their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
Yep, certainly is. Also another demonstration of the many contradictions in the bible…Ezekiel 18:20, “The one who sins is the one who will die. The ch(i)ld will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the ch(i)ld.” Clearly, another illustration of “god” not following his own moral code….
The only good news is that all of those stories are made up. It's just horrible people lean on this crap as ok. Great work as always Brandon! Perfect take down.
This "crap" is close to ending the lives of everyone on the planet.
However, the sad thing is people attempt to recreate these stories in modern life. It’s the conquistadors killing the Aztecs and Maya because of “ human sacrifice” It’s Israeli defense officials quoting Judges before attacking Gaza.
I wish the Bible stayed in the world of fiction.
One thing to note: when God doesn't explicitly *command* someone to do something, but *blesses* them with success, power, dynasty, fulfilled promises, etc, I don't know how anyone could say that God didn't condone the various actions we'd see as reprehensible.
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Edit: of course you immediately brought the point up as soon as I commented 😆
Lol got ya covered!
God gave His chosen people prosperity. They weren't perfect but that nation was blessed because it was a part of God's plan.
I am so glad that we are told that these are the GOOD guys. I'd hate to see what the BAD guys were like!
I am looking forward to watching this video after I get off of work.
I think this touches on something I see occasionally from Christians. They will try to show you that God is all good/all loving. So they will point to things in the Bible where he shows love, acceptance, and forgiveness. However, when other contradictory passages are pointed out, they sometimes fall back to something along the lines of “God knows better than you, that thing he did really does cause the most good. You just can’t understand it since you’re not omniscient like he is.”
I can understand that. This world really might be the one with most good. Maybe God really did have to make the choices he did for some grand plan. But it can’t be both ways. You can’t say he is evidently all good, but also say where he doesn’t seem all good he really is you just have to trust. I don’t believe in this god. If you want to prove his existence to me by showing me he’s all good, his all goodness needs to be self evident to me.
As a Christian, I understand your point.
I'm glad I still have my faith.
Maybe the moral of the difference between Abraham and Jephthah is that one was a boy (and god intervened) and other was a girl (and god did not intervene). More misogyny from imaginary being.
Jephthah was stolen from Agamemnon.
@@harveywabbit9541 Find out when both pieces of literature were written,then see if that's possible. Why are you here making up lies on a channel that's debunking lies?
@@sundayoliver3147 “Iphigenia in Tauris is a drama by the playwright Euripides, written between 414 BCE and 412 BCE.” Not sure the Hebrew Bible had been composed yet by that time. Are you saying that Euripides drew inspiration from the Jephthah story? Because sure as hell they have a lot in common. As someone who was familiar with the Greek and Roman classics well before reading the Bible, the story of Jephthah’s daughter reminded me of Iphigenia as soon as I heard it.
@@pansepot1490
Virtually every bit of the bible was stolen from Pagan myth.
Also see the story of Zeus and Hermes visiting Baucis.
The goose in this tale was sacred to Juno. The linden tree was also sacred to Juno. The Oak tree was sacred to Zeus.
The story was perverted into the story of Lot and his wife. Recommend Hebrew Mythology or Science of the Bible, by Milton Woolley.
I’ve never been met with such consistent and well organized discussions on these topics as you. You’ve helped me organize my own thoughts and observations from my experience with this religion and it’s helped tremendously!
I don’t know if there’s a saying for us atheists that resembles “you’re doin the lords work” but that’s how I feel 😂
Lol! So glad to help!
I was talking with one of my christian friends recently about how much God loves and respects human life. The more you read the bible to more you realize how crazy of an idea that is. It is clear that he doesnt particularly if you arent a part of his specific plan and sometimes life is disregarded simply as an unessecary plot point in the plan
Not specific to this video, but something that absolutely blows my mind is when Christians defend the doctrine and necessity of the existence of Hell, but then try to save people from going there!
Yes! Some real dissonance going on
Yes, they have to save us from there god. What kind of a god do we need saving from?
Great video as always, the cognitive dissonance is real. For all the times God hardens someone's heart, why couldn't he ever soften anyone's heart to actually save the lives of these innocent people that he supposedly knows and knits in the womb? Thousands of different solutions to all kinds of problems, but God always defaults to violence and evil.
Well said and thank you!
I think that if you, @Brandon, ever do debates like you mentioned in your last update, this topic I think is the most powerful one you could talk about. As a Christian I never heard anything like this perspective about immoral actions.
Your break down of these passages in the Bible is so thorough. I truly wish I could convince a good friend of mine to listen to your content as he was something of a lip service Christian and now seems to be slowly getting stuck in Fundamentalism which I am afraid will end up with him turning into what I was which is an awful thought. Always look forward to your next up 👍
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the MOCKERS, HATERS, and SLANDERERS of GOD and JESUS CHRIST
Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
KNOW
and are fully aware that they unitedly -
1. mock and degrade the Bible as just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies and fairy tales.
2. dishonor the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ and slander him as unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
3. dishonor Jesus Christ and slander him as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by his GOD and Father all authority in heaven and on earth.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS produce and breed all the LIARS, DECEIVERS, and MURDERERS of HUMAN BEINGS
Atheists
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ doesn't exist and even if existing is still cruel, merciless, unworthy and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
and
the BIBLE too is just worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES, Unbiblical and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, sufferings, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The BIBLE is the ONLY BOOK in the world
that produces all the LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, RESPECTFUL, and SUBMISSIVE PERSONS on EARTH
GOD KNOWS
that imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ
and obey his teachings too about "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
in their obedience to all that were written in the BIBLE, in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are clearly
the loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
can be trusted with anything and are worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
Jesus Christ KNOWS
that his teaching about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
is
GOD's guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, his Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy his and his GOD and Father's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under his loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Appreciate that very much!
I'm a Christian, I've watched the video and I think its another pathetic attempt to call God evil.
No it isn't thorough. If it was he would have known that there was no war genocide.
Its crazy that we can spend years in the church and never see the actual truth that lies in the bible. "We can never know gods will" .... But can't we?? "Gods ways are higher" geez i mean i guess thats an easy way to excuse all his horrible behavior.
"God/jesus loves all" but does be really? Just based on the bible alone we can see how that is untrue.
What was immoral was God commanding the guy who took gold from Jericho, for him and his entire family to be stoned to death. Christians would say, well his family could have spoken up. I like to ask them, would you call the police on your father for stealing something if it can cause him his life?
Great example. And thats if they even knew about it. Most kids have no idea whats going on. Its beyond unfair no matter the what ifs
It was not immoral because what he did was forbidden and he and his family paid the price. That's justice.
@@Justas399 so if you stole something, you're perfectly ok with your family getting the death penalty for it?
I cannot fathom where you get your sense of justice from.
@@Justas399if your child killed someone, would you and your wife, other children, be alright with taking the death penalty for him?
@@Justas399 if I steal something, it’s moral for my innocent children to be executed with me? Dude, this belief system has seriously messed up your moral compass.
Brandon, you left out the best part of the story of the golden calf. You mentioned the Levites killed about three thousand of their people for worshipping the golden calf, but you forgot to mention what happened to the man who made the idols and led the insurrection: Aaron wasn't killed for making or worshipping idols; he was promoted to high priest and his sons were selected to be priests.
Yup, plain old nepotism.
Wow. I've read this a million times but did not realize this.
@@cidolphus I know right? That's happened to me so many times. When I first heard someone say that after the flood, Noah took the lid off the ark, I said "it doesn't say that. I've read it a thousand times. I'd have noticed." Then I looked it up and holy cow it actually says that. Did you know that in the book of Luke, if you follow the timeline, Jesus actually ascended at night on the day he resurrected? Did you know that Israel and Judah weren't the only ones to practice circumcision? Jeremiah 9:25-26 says that Egypt, Ammon, Moab, and all those who live in distant wildernesses also practice circumcision. Ok I haven't read Jeremiah a thousand times (or even once really) but how could it say that given that God invented circumcision to set Abraham and his descendants apart from everyone?
It feels like IP is in constant triggered mode.
😂😂😂 It's hard work defending that monster they call all loving and powerful God.
He's so delusional he tried to use science to prove Adam and Eve...
@@XarXXon delusion and arrogance
@@XarXXon
Adam and Eve are found in myths worldwide. In Egypt they were Nut (Heaven) and Geb (Earth). They had three boys who became three boys of Adam and Eve. The third son, Seth, became the third son of Adam and Eve.
For funnies, look up the separation of Nut and Geb. Geb has a phallus that stretches from earth to heaven. All was darkness until Shu (Air) pushed them apart. This great event was announced by the gods proclaiming "Let there be light." If Shu had never pushed Nut (Vagina) and Geb (Penis) apart, we would remain in perpetual darkness and no work would be done. Only Chaos (the six nights in Gen 1) would remain.
@@XarXXon
Adam (Earth) and Eve (Heaven) are found in myths worldwide. They were Geb and Nut in Egyptian myth. These gods had three sons who became the three sons of Adam and Eve.
Noah (Earth) had three sons. Winter, Spring, and Summer.
Terah (Earth) had three sons. Winter, Spring, and Summer.
Job (Earth) had three daughters. Winter, Spring, and Summer
Each of these three lives for 120 days/degrees during the year of 360 days/degrees.
The Amorites (intercalary days of five) make up the year of 365 days.
The Egyptian intercalary days of five = Osiris, Horus the Younger, Seth, Isis, and Nephthys. The writers disparged the Amorites as they knew they were Egyptians.
P1) If it happens according to God’s will, then God endorses it.
P2) Everything happens according to God’s will.
C) Therefore, God endorses everything.
In any case, I see no convincing evidence the stories in the Hebrew and Greek texts were literal / historical events.
yup!
That was actually a prevalent view amongst many Jews during the pre-christian era.
The story of Jacob is for me one of reasons I started to doubt this gods' "goodness ".
I know, it's like we're supposed to be on a team, and root for the ones Yahweh favors, not caring about the others.
And the story of Jephta's daughter was the nail in the coffin?
So weird that God just simply cannot even be in the presence of evil, to the point that he's just so unable to to simply forgive his most beloved creation; yet, he's willing to work so closely though the evil of man (pretending that natural disasters and animal suffering aren't a thing) for good.
It's almost as if evil was a part of the plan from the start.... If that God were real to begin with.
Yup. You can’t send Jesus to die for humanity’s supposed sinfulness unless you allow sin to happen. Or plan for it to happen.
@ravwoofles3858
The most evil genocide and evil act god ever committed was kill the dinosaurs.
@@A-WallfromAL Jesus died for nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
He resurrected after the sacrifice, then we just continue to sin. Meaning this was just another fetish of bloodlust that God did.
@@abstraction6212 I don’t disagree with you! ☝🏼
@@A-WallfromAL I also believe that aside from the flood, the most evil crime god ever did was destroy the dinosaurs with a meteor.
After millions of years of ruling what sin did the dinosaurs do to deserve such destruction? or God killed them cuz he wanted to? And those creatures burning in hell?
I would be curious if most Christians see the difference in treatment of Israelite vs others as a bad thing. When I used to attend church, the pastors would spin this as a good thing. The Christian was the valued in-group then and now.
It's a normal thing to treat your family differently than your coworkers or total strangers, you love all people but you love your family differently than stragers.
It wasn't until Acts that God respected the Gentiles.
hey mind shift, i really like your logo animation at 0:26. i like how the outside squares line up with the middle one showing how we can change our views when we see the truth or have enough evidence to support that
Thank you, shout out to Kaleb who made it for me. I love it.
I can’t wait for IP’s well thought out , unbiased and diligently researched response.
It seems so inconsistent and bad of God, that he forbids to intermingle with gentiles, but then allowed his people to take the young girls of the gentiles for themselves. Even, IF they give it a marriage certificate.... this should be forbidden by a just and righteous God. But he is even going against his own command.
In this video you point out a lot of things I have not yet thought of since leaving Christianity.
Yikes, so many bad things. Every day I learn more how bad this religion is....
Don't forget that 'devoting' a conquered city to God meant killing every living thing (plant and animal) and destroying every building and every object in a massive sacrificial thank-offering for the victory.
I love how your talks are so direct, succint and unopinionated as possible, given the controversy of the topic involved. Best of the skeptic channels.
Elisha is like Mr. Pickles, you cross his path, and it's over johnny 😂😂😂
Good boy!
...and don't mess with the two she bears who mangled children (Gemini). The two bears, Ursa major and Ursa minor, are ready to pounce on anyone who pisses off old baldy.
@@merbst cheeseman, cheeseman, cheeseman!🤣🤣🤣
Oh my 😅 what an AMAZING comeback for the description and perscription examples!!
Brandon you have just outdone yourself if that’s even possible!?! This was EVIDENCE FILLED to show the absolute worst of the TRUTH ABOUT THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY 💯 RIGHT HERE. All your hard work here shows you Know what you are talking about and HAVE COMMUNICATED IT EFFECTIVELY.
Evil or false for sure and we both bought in thinking this was truth as taught by our parents 😢
What an awesomely kind comment. Thanks so much for the love!
He literally tells People to slaughter because they wouldn't worship him 😂 that's fked up
I wonder if inspiring philosophy would be my slayve (sic) under biblical law? I doubt it
So man-made!! these are people doing evil and trying to justify the actions through turning God into a completely unpredictable and arbitrary power with all of the failings he supposedly is superior to.
REALLY appreciate your growing body of work
Please consider debating:
Church of the eternal logos, Jay Dyer, Made by Jimbob
All of these sites are selling young men on orthodox Christianity (my son included) utilizing pseudo-philosophical claptrap - often host open call in debates - I’m surprised they haven’t published a critique of your content - hope u will call them all out
I am one of the happy few who grew up in a family where religion was not important and when I learned about these stories (Catholic region of the Netherlands, Catholic school, normal to learn about Catholicism at school) I was not impressed and I realized quickly that religion was manmade. Took a bit longer to chuck out all supernatural and I am a happy atheist the last forty years.
When Elisha was being verbally teased for being bald, he called out a curse and the Lord answered him. But when kids are being teased (both verbally and physically), when they are being called far worse names, where is the Lord then? I had a third grade teacher who had a reputation for singling out at least one student for harassment and encouraging the other students to go after that child. She put a neighbor boy in the state hospital. We are talking 8-9 year old kids. Nothing was ever done to that teacher as far as I know of, although ALL the parents knew that she was vicious. If only just one of us had had Elisha's power! I think it was that experience (among others) that started me on the road to deconstruction: I simply could not reconcile what I was learning in Saturday morning Catechism Class and Sunday morning Mass with what I was learning Mondays through Fridays in Mrs. Wicker's third grade classroom at Grand Prairie Elementary. Both of those things could not be right; one had to be true and one had to be false--and guess which one had the most impact? Two hours per week versus 40?
Listening to the Abraham part. When he lies about Sarah being his sister, it’s only a half lie. They had the same father- different mothers (Gen 20:12). I have never heard a Sunday school lesson or sermon that mentions that they were in fact siblings.
You are right. Kinda screwed either way. We add in incest but make it a lie of omission, or leave out the incest and get a straight lie lol
If I were going to construct a religion based solely on the Old Testament, without leaving out a single word or using any external or extraneous cultural or theological influences, the finished product would probably look about like ISIS and other Takfiri groups who, IMO, are the "most biblical" of any religious currents in the world today.
i think you are right.
Hello Brandon, I have a video suggestion, A video about NDEs and why they aren't good evidence for an afterlife, my reasoning personally is that if your evidence of heaven and hell is that so and so nde shows it you must also apply that logic to the many out there that contradict, and then none are true or say the christian ones are true and your god let someone die and see false things and go to hell for believing it the rest of their life. I think it would be an interesting topic for you to discuss.
SATAN the DEVIL and the ANTI-CHRISTS bring DISHONOR and ETERNAL DEATHS to HUMAN BEINGS
Atheists
who believe the LIE of Satan the Devil that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
will
definitely bring themselves nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS,
obviously
lied to, deceived, and murdered by Satan the Devil, the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings.
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who believe the LIES and false teachings of the Anti-Christs about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS,
obviously
lied to, deceived, and murdered by Satan the Devil, the Father of Lies and Murderer of Human beings.
GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS
Lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
will
definitely live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God",
clearly
honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful GOD with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death.
The teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
guarantees
that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity
as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
Thank you for sharing this...
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
It would really be nice if God came down and clarify this stuff.. Then apologist might be out of a job.
Thank you, Brandon! You are truly a Brother
Let's add some more context to the Joseph story:
Genesis 41:33-36
"33So now let Pharaoh look for a man understanding and wise, and set him over the land of Egypt. 34Let Pharaoh take action and appoint overseers over the land, and let him exact a fifth of the produce of the land of Egypt in the seven years of abundance. 35Then let them gather all the food of these good years that are coming, and let them store up the grain for food in the cities under Pharaoh’s authority, and let them keep watch over it. 36And let the food be appointed for the land for the seven years of famine which will happen in the land of Egypt, so that the land will not be cut off during the famine.”"
That sounds wise at first to gather food so that you are prepared for an upcoming famine. But first let me remind you that the food was gathered from the common people. That is important later on. Now let's continue.
Genesis 47:13-21
"13Now there was no food in all the land because the famine was very heavy, so that the land of Egypt and the land of Canaan languished because of the famine. 14And Joseph gathered all the money that was found in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan for the grain which they bought, and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house. 15Then the money came to an end in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan. So all the Egyptians came to Joseph and said, “Give us food, for why should we die in your presence? For our money is gone.” 16Then Joseph said, “Give up your livestock, and I will give you food for your livestock, since your money is gone.” 17So they brought their livestock to Joseph, and Joseph gave them food in exchange for the horses and the flocks and the herds and the donkeys; and he fed them with food in exchange for all their livestock that year. 18Then that year came to an end. And they came to him the next year and said to him, “We will not hide from my lord that our money has come to an end, and the livestock are my lord’s. There is nothing left for my lord except our bodies and our land. 19Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we and our land will be slaves to Pharaoh. So give us seed, that we may live and not die, and that the land may not be desolate.”
20So Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharaoh, for every Egyptian sold his field because the famine was severe upon them. Thus the land became Pharaoh’s.21As for the people, he moved them to the cities from one end of Egypt’s border to the other end. "
There was a famine and he gathered before the famine happens much grain from the people. Now while the famine is happening he is gathering ALL the money that was found in Egypt and Canaan by SELLING them back THEIR own food until they had no money left. The common people ask for food again and what did Joseph tell them? Since they have no money because he has taken that from them he told them to give him their livestock. Remember the grain was gathered from the people and the money was also gathered from the people. It is originally their money and their grain and he sold that grain to them for their livestock. After the year has ended the people still had no money and need food. So what has happened now? They need to sell their home and even themselves as slaves. He literally used the famine to rob the common people of everything they have.
Also take notice that he completely removed them from their homes in (21). Like gathering a cattle-labor force into designed areas (cities).
Now let's take a look how the ancient Israelites are about to live. First let's look at the promise for them.
Genesis 45:18
18and take your father and your households and come to me, and I will give you the best of the land of Egypt, and you will eat the fat of the land.’
As you can see the BEST of the land of Egypt is promised to them. Did that stay that way in the famine? Let's see.
Genesis 47:6
" 6The land of Egypt is at your disposal; have your father and your brothers settle in the best of the land, let them settle in the land of Goshen; and if you know any excellent men among them, then put them in charge of my livestock.”"
Here the land is at their disposal. And they are now officially allowed to settle in the best of the land.
Remember the common Egyptians will own nothing any longer after verse 13-20. All land is owned by the Pharaoh except the land of the priests. Now let's take a look how the Israelites are living. And by the way I consider this Pharaoh a traitor to his own people.
Genesis 47:27
"27Now Israel lived in the land of Egypt, in Goshen, and they took possession of property in it and were fruitful and became very numerous."
The Israelites took POSSESSION of the property in it while the Egyptians have NOTHING aside from the Pharaoh and the priests.
The famine was used to rip off the common people living in Egypt of everything they owned and worked for while his Israelites just moved in and took possession of the best of the land. With the help of the Pharaoh and the famine Joseph robbed the entire population of Egypt aside from the priests and at the same time took possession of the best parts of the land.
Maybe that could be a good enough reason why they reversed the situation later in the Exodus story.
But let's also take a look at the maybe excuse from the same chapter:
Genesis 47:25
"25So they said, “You have kept us alive! Let us find favor in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh’s slaves.”"
Here you may say: Oh, look the common Egyptians are "thankful" since they survived the famine. True, but I think it is also necessary to understand that being in a crisis takes a massive mental burden on people. In short at that time they most likely only thought about survival. But what do you think will happen after everything calms down and that mental burden starts to lessen? Then they should become more and more aware that they lost everything and understand what it means to be slaves. Additionally they will also recognize that foreigners took property in their own land while they themselves are slaves in their own land. I mean it should be obvious that this will create massive problems. Take a look at today's world and see how people like it to be "colonized" or how people like mass migration. This is literally a mixture of both. No one can tell me that they just s[...]ck that up like it is nothing. And by the way did the Egyptians really like Joseph?
Let's take a look at this quote here:
Genesis 43:32
"32So they set the meal for him by himself, and for them by themselves, and for the Egyptians who ate with him by themselves, because the Egyptians could not eat bread with the Hebrews, for that is an abomination to the Egyptians. "
Isn't that interesting? Seemingly liked by the Pharaoh but not so much by the others.
Genesis 46:33-34
"33And it will be when Pharaoh calls you and says, ‘What is your occupation?’ 34then you shall say, ‘Your servants have been keepers of livestock from our youth and until now, both we and our fathers,’ that you may live in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination to the Egyptians.”"
Another interesting one. It seems like the Egyptians didn't like these people yet the Pharaoh again does.
Another thing to ask is: Why did the Pharaoh play along with this? I assume greed would be the best answer to this. For this let's recall:
Genesis 47:14
"14And Joseph gathered all the money that was found in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan for the grain which they bought, and Joseph brought the money into Pharaoh’s house. "
Into whose house had the money being gathered? Into the Pharaoh's.
And to wrap it up let's take a look at the reason for the counter attack of the egyptians:
Exodus 1:10
"1Now these are the names of the sons of Israel who came to Egypt with Jacob; they came each one with his household: 2Reuben, Simeon, Levi, and Judah; 3Issachar, Zebulun, and Benjamin; 4Dan and Naphtali, Gad and Asher. 5And all the persons who came from the loins of Jacob were seventy in number, but Joseph was already in Egypt. 6Then Joseph died, and all his brothers and all that generation. 7But the sons of Israel were fruitful and increased and multiplied and became exceedingly mighty, so that the land was filled with them.
8And a new king arose over Egypt, who did not know Joseph. 9And he said to his people, “Behold, the people of the sons of Israel are more and mightier than we. 10Come, let us deal wisely with them, lest they multiply and it be in the event of war, that they also join themselves to those who hate us and fight against us and go up from the land.”"
At the end I think we can say that:
*A crisis is the one of the best excuses to take the possessions of people away without violence.*
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We might even argue that the ruling system after the famine might be something similar to a prototype version of communism. Everything in possessions of the rulers and no private property for the common people.
You can see how the Abrahamic religions give a good foundation for not just colonization, but for maintaining a ruling class ("the chosen people"),, the "house servants" just below them, and the slavery of the rest. Not coincidentally a model for many governments in the Western world.
Fuedalism is a more fitting description. And was the actual situation for a long historical period of the Christian European world.
I can clearly see your frustration twords those blind people who always come up with a excuse to anything you expose how ridicules and twisted religion is. You just keep on doing it bro. You make bible studies real and I love it. Rock on brother 🤘🏽
Thanks, man! Always so encouraging.
I was thinking about how much responsibility lies in such a controversial book as the Bible, in the everlasting conflict that goes on in Palestine. The conflict is endemic in the book itself and in the state of mind that follows, how can we pray for peace to such god? I would love to see your take on this argument, Brandon: how our world is affected by the inner contradictions of the book that roots three of its most important religions.
Even though the bible is "responsible" for a lot of things it doesn't seem to be necessarily the case here, right now is just a land dispute, good old fashioned colonialism at play with a side of ethno nationalism.
I do have many thoughts. I think its multifaceted and I am still trying to educate myself on it before speaking too much.
@@bluester7177 Disagree. I think the notion of "god provided this land for you" goes very deep-- in fact, Brandon illustrated it in this very video. To me, colonialism is an offshot of this attitude, a symptom not a cause. (Remember, the European colonists felt the land was their by "divine right".)
I am not agreeing with a lot of what you say but you have the merits to expose those hypocrites who pretend to know the bible and having so called ministeries... And you are very articulate. Good!
Even when it's just description, how many times God has rewarded bad behaviour in the bible with no condemnation? It's very easy to use the argument that "God didn't say that and people are just misunderstanding the bible", God is supposedly an All-Knowing, All-Powerful being, if he doesn't want people to misunderstand maybe he should have been more clear and maybe he should give explicit condemnation of all of the behaviours which are bad but he doesn't.
yes exactly!
Or He could have told us these things at a time when we weren't all illiterate. Maybe wait until we could read and write and keep accurate records, not have to rely on a couple hundred years of word of mouth.
Nope, we're just supposed to obey the male dictator and shut up. Or else. Very good training for keeping authoritarian governments in business.
Amen! Thank you so much for making these hard videos. I remember teaching kids in Sunday School and me questioning. Teaching the Bible to innocent kids is a great way to start the deconstruction
Great job! Listening and smiling
Thanks, Deb!
First time watching this channel, love this video! Yes the so-called god of love permits and condones wickedness. I can't go for it, went for it for a good portion of my life, but now cannot go for it. No god of love would allow that or even allow the wickedness that we endure today. No Christian, no Muslim, no tribal person of whatever faith can' convince me that there is a god of love.
So glad to have you here!
You forgot to mention that Abraham did try to give his sister away not just once but twice!
Genesis 20:1-7
"1And Abraham journeyed from there toward the land of the Negev and settled between Kadesh and Shur; then he sojourned in Gerar. 2And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, “She is my sister.” So Abimelech king of Gerar sent and took Sarah. 3But God came to Abimelech in a dream of the night and said to him, “Behold, you are a dead man because of the woman whom you have taken, for she is married.” 4(Now Abimelech had not come near her.) Then he said, “Lord, will You kill a nation, even though righteous? 5Did he not himself say to me, ‘She is my sister’? And she herself also said, ‘He is my brother.’ In the integrity of my heart and the innocence of my hands I have done this.” 6Then God said to him in the dream, “Indeed, I know that in the integrity of your heart you have done this, and I also held you back from sinning against Me; therefore I did not let you touch her. 7So now, return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you, and you will live. But if you do not return her, know that you shall surely die, you and all who are yours.”"
DISHONOR, DOWNFALL, and ETERNAL DEATHS bring and cause by ATHEISM and RELIGIONS
Willful mockeries, opposition, and defiance of GOD's Sovereignty and Jesus Christ's authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
will definitely result in nothing but the dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS
of
billions and billions of worthless, foolish, hateful, merciless, and cruel Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
LOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER
Loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
will be honored and rewarded in return with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death.
GOD will let all his loving, kind, considerate, and respectful Worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
to be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
@@jaflenbond7854
Nothings being mocked. Its simply being exposed for the ridiculous repugnancy its always contained.
@@FoursWithinLOVING, KIND, CONSIDERATE, and RESPECTFUL PERSONS WILL LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER
Loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
will be honored and rewarded in return with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death.
GOD will let all his loving, kind, considerate, and respectful Worshippers who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
to be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
@@jaflenbond7854
If you want to be a mental slave
to a cult ideology , it's a free country.
But don't expect others to share
in your zealotry for ancient superstitions.
@@FoursWithin NO BIBLE, NO GOD and JESUS CHRIST..... JUST DISHONOR, HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, and DEATHS
Atheists
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIE that the GOD and Father of Jesus Christ is cruel, merciless, unworthy, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
will
definitely bring themselves nothing but dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false teachings about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity, "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves nothing but dishonor, disgrace, and ETERNAL DEATHS
and also the humiliations, degradations, sufferings, griefs, and DEATHS of their own families and neighbors.
The BIBLE, GOD and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH to HUMAN BEINGS
Lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
will
definitely live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "Kingdom of God",
clearly
honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful GOD with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths
as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20
but
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
guarantees
that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his GOD and Father's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Like I've said for many of your other presentations, 'this is the best one yet' - lol. Your work and insight is of such high quality that you deserve 💐 some honorary doctorates, a Nobel Prize, an Oscar, Grammy and Academy Award. No fooling. You are making a successful honest and accurate critique on the world's most influential book and philosophy and, eye-opening to many, finding it to be seriously faulty.
He barely scratched the surface of the text. If you actually went deeper he would have known that there was no genocidal war.
Thank you, thank you for this video!
When I was attending a church in college, I had questions about the “ Old Testament”. The pastor told me not to look at what people did , but look at the commandments. I did not understand that then and I do not buy the idea to not look at the “ descriptions” , but the “ prescriptions” now. This is not how the New Testament writers looked at the Hebrew Bible. They viewed the patriarchs and King David as moral models to follow. They did not differentiate between YHWH’s commandments and protagonists’ actions. If YHWH did not punish them, ancient commentators viewed the unpunished actions as sanctioned by YHWH.
I think this type of parsing is simply an apologetic to promote the idea that either YHWH is all-good and the Bible is still inerrant.
Yeah the 'go kill the village except for the untouched girls, give them a month to cry it out then take them as your wives'... the same guys who killed their friends and family become their husbands, with all that trauma that brings with it.
Yeah and as if thats not rape too
When fundamentalists are forced to choose between an inerrant book or a benevolent God, they choose the book every time. Idolatry never went away, it just changed its format.
I remember very well that the disrespectful treatment of Sara probably set me on the path to deconstruction. No one could or wanted to explain to me why God allowed Abraham to lie.
At the time, I was too blind to see that raping Hagar was just as much of a crime. In hindsight, it's hard to imagine what everyone was led to believe.
God didn't immediately punish Abraham for lying. But then he doesn't immediately punish a lot of people for lying. Guess he's a bad God then. This is one of the worst atheist videos I have ever seen.
@@avivastudios2311 I wasn't concerned with punishing Abraham, but with protecting Sarah and Hagar. For an almighty God and Abraham, who has a personal relationship with this almighty God, that was very weak.
I find great irony in how they are all "You must *look* into the book!".
But the *second* you do, it's all "Hey, HEY! You weren't supposed to *actually* do that!".
Or a "It's *rude* to reveal what you learned!". It's like this excuse, that isn't supposed to be looked into. Which, aligns with cults. "Never question what you are told". You're supposed to nod, smile and go and find an *excuse* for it. Not look *into* it.
yes, it is so very frustrating!
@@MindShift-Brandon That doesn't however top the *peak* irony of that mental gymnastic.
I think you have seen it but, just to recap it: An apologist says something like "The book doesn't endorse X.". And then they have someone say "Read [passage]". And they open that passage, reads it *silently in their head*. Then just looks at the camera/person and says something among the lines of "You sick [beep]" or "You should be ashamed of yourself.".
There are many Christians scholars who have looked into everything in the Bible. And we don't make excuses, we say the truth.
@@avivastudios2311 And that's the #1 cause of atheists: Finding out what evil, immoral stuff that book instructs... or the utter absurdities it spouts.
David walking home with a bag of 200 foreskins is beyond hilarious and ridiculous. Like, how does anyone take these stories seriously?
What do you mean by that? Are you saying that it's impossible?
It always cracks me up when you say, "how gross!" I agree.
I'm glad someone especially U taking down IP, he was getting on my nerves...✌🏾😃👍🏾