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Moe Wagner KNOCKED OUT by Killian Hayes From Shot Too Dangerous for MMA

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2022
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  • @FinalQueue007
    @FinalQueue007 ปีที่แล้ว +835

    I love how some people were trying to play it off and act like Mo is weak for being knocked out like that. Really shows who never trained a day in their life and who never fought a day in their life as well.

    • @2299mikey
      @2299mikey ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He’s weak because he got knocked out by the push not the punch. He was already out before he got punched

    • @sirewic4710
      @sirewic4710 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      @@2299mikey yall act like you can decide what knocks you out lmao. Could be the simplest thing, especially when you're not expecting it. It's obvious you know nothing.

    • @2299mikey
      @2299mikey ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sirewic4710 getting knocked out by a push is weak.

    • @roym4457
      @roym4457 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      he's definitely not weak. much stronger than the average joe imo

    • @csolivais1979
      @csolivais1979 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      @@2299mikey you literally have no physical control of how how your brain reacts when you get hit in the head. And a certain hit that knocks you out might be nothing to me and vice versa.

  • @gokuson3409
    @gokuson3409 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    that hit behind the back is not only dangerous it’s cowardice!

    • @roddyboethius1722
      @roddyboethius1722 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      It is the height of cowardice. Face a man or walk off.

    • @ricktrenda3473
      @ricktrenda3473 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      He should be out of the league and put in jail

    • @sh0cktim3
      @sh0cktim3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Seriously his NBA career should be over for that.

    • @Tabooza
      @Tabooza ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wagner should press charges, straight the fuck up.

    • @SwagGod-vf3tl
      @SwagGod-vf3tl ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Don’t push someone then turn your back

  • @Kyle_919
    @Kyle_919 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    People who think Mo is weak for getting knocked out by that are beyond me. Any hit to the head can knock you out if it hits you in the right spot, same way your leg can give out when you get hit on the perennial nerve. Hope this doesn’t leave lasting effects, great video

    • @HypocritesExposd
      @HypocritesExposd ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Beyond you? It’s actually quite easy to understand: people who think he’s weak for getting knocked out literally have no clue about anything. No clue about the human body, no clue about fighting, no clue about contact sports.

    • @NateVHVT
      @NateVHVT ปีที่แล้ว +24

      People who say this have most likely never been punched, never mind been hit in the back of the head. A punch to the back of the head, that you have no idea is coming is terrifying.

    • @mikepile9989
      @mikepile9989 ปีที่แล้ว

      No black dude is weak for hitting a dude in the back of the head puss ass boy

    • @TheMarksman0415
      @TheMarksman0415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HypocritesExposd exactly. I actually don't like Wagner but that was some coward sh*t by Hayes. No one should ever get hurt let alone knocked out and have a big risk of having a permanent injury.

    • @stubbingtonmarigold3032
      @stubbingtonmarigold3032 ปีที่แล้ว

      He got what he deserved, imagine if cheap shot artist Greyson Allen had gotten this every time he cheap shot someone...

  • @rkgsd
    @rkgsd ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This is what's called a "bitch move". I hope he realizes he'll now have a target on his back for the rest of his playing days.

    • @jjwilly5114
      @jjwilly5114 ปีที่แล้ว

      The little bitch should be suspended for the entire season

    • @pjgalligan
      @pjgalligan ปีที่แล้ว

      The target should be his face, particularly the eyes and nose, not his back ;)

  • @danielponcedeleon9186
    @danielponcedeleon9186 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    As someone who does boxing seeing that made me livid. Knowing the danger of a sucker punch especially to the back of the head was scary to see how his body reacted.

    • @FaceFamous
      @FaceFamous ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same. Muay Thai ..and I even pull some of my kicks in a match if I see it going to the back of the head of my opponent.

    • @reubensandwich9249
      @reubensandwich9249 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hayes only got a 3 game suspension.

    • @jasonjones3694
      @jasonjones3694 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a coward, for some reason I knew it was gonna be a sucker punch when I heard he got knocked out

    • @TheCaptainMtg
      @TheCaptainMtg ปีที่แล้ว

      Because bias Joe Dumars of the Pistons is in charge of these infractions.

    • @artsXart
      @artsXart ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No disrespect, but as a person who has played a LOT of basketball, what MO Wagner did was not a basketball play AT ALL. It is very dangerous to redirect someone into solid objects when they are in a sprint. Luckily for Killian, he didn't impact anything at full speed or hit the wrong objects. It could've caused him to miss the season, or worst case, be career ending. I don't agree with the melee, but I understand the reaction to a very dirty play. Players know the consequences of those types of plays, so when you CHOOSE to engage in that, be ready for the response.

  • @infinitymixtapes9562
    @infinitymixtapes9562 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Didn't even see it in real time but that's one of the most cowardly moves you can pull

    • @KoolRunnings09
      @KoolRunnings09 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yes he punched him in the back but he was pushed first. It’s retaliation homie. The first push was more cowardly and got him in that situation to begin with.

    • @synraheim17
      @synraheim17 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@KoolRunnings09 precisely. He fucked around and found out.

    • @antokarman2064
      @antokarman2064 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Nah, wagner is the coward one, shoved hayes to the crowd even though he could get the ball first. He's lucky neither of them are injured, though the risk of being a paraplegic might put the fear of God into him

    • @joeg4707
      @joeg4707 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KoolRunnings09 Hayes is a thug. He didn't punch him in the back, he hit him in the back of the head. Significant difference.

    • @junkdawg2740
      @junkdawg2740 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That was a body bump. That wasn’t a push. And Mo tried to check on him

  • @jacobtomsovic1232
    @jacobtomsovic1232 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Yet again another amazing injury breakdown. This guy is no joke and is excellent at explaining things on a level that a normal person with no schooling can understand

  • @lavendergooms7958
    @lavendergooms7958 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I’m primarily an MMA fan, so I’m not squeamish about violent contact in sports, even when the rules don’t allow it. However, some things are so dangerous that they transcend a skirmish; they become criminal. This stuff cannot happen.

    • @NotYou1979
      @NotYou1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it seems like LEO are too cowardly to actually enforce the law

    • @anthonyballesteros9326
      @anthonyballesteros9326 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what I'm saying only sport I truly care about is mma I'm a huge huge fan of it seeing this shit passes me off so much the dude deserves jail

  • @117zlatan
    @117zlatan ปีที่แล้ว +561

    Doc, after learning about the story of boxer Prichard Colon, I seriously was worried for Moe's health after that hit, good to hear that appareantly wasn't the case, thank you for the knowledge you give us.👏🏻👌🏼

    • @ax7160
      @ax7160 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are you a bot ??😭😭

    • @NickzAndMikz
      @NickzAndMikz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ax7160 are you?

    • @coolbreeze3793
      @coolbreeze3793 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tell the man stop with his CONSTANT DIRTY PLAYS. It’s only a matter of time before someone acts irresponsibly because of Wagners actions. I mean the man has A LOT of dirty plays. Same thing with Smart, Allen and a lot others. He could’ve injured Hayes with that dumb move because he lost the ball. Idk. I barely see Moes younger brother even remotely getting involved in Moes stunts. Idk though.

    • @rollin60z
      @rollin60z ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was one hit🤦🤦 Prichard took multiple over a long time

    • @Rickle_Pick23
      @Rickle_Pick23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wasn’t concerned lol maybe Moe needs a concussion to finally get it

  • @lile4life713
    @lile4life713 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Hit in the back with an closed fist that’s some bs

    • @lilbmxman66akax999thhokage
      @lilbmxman66akax999thhokage ปีที่แล้ว +130

      Fine his ass and put temp rest of season suspension on his contract. Dudes a clown for doing that.

    • @bladegill7984
      @bladegill7984 ปีที่แล้ว

      He deserved it. Don’t cheap shot someone and then act like the victim.

    • @sliver64209
      @sliver64209 ปีที่แล้ว

      You blind. He sucker punched him in the back of the head

    • @petert3355
      @petert3355 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@lilbmxman66akax999thhokage nope $100 million fine and banned from basketball and all sport for life.
      After that, add a criminal assault charge and jail time.

    • @nasty2168
      @nasty2168 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@petert3355 relax killian was pushed into the stands and then hit mo with a mid hit that happened to wobble him. He wasn't trying to paralyze intentionally or had in mind the reprocessions of hitting someone in back of the head.

  • @brqxton8974
    @brqxton8974 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    As a person who has had concussions from both front and rear impact injuries to my skull, I recovered easily from the front impacts, while the single time I was knocked unconscious by a rear impact I was unable to do anything but lay on the couch for two weeks with the worst piercing migraines I’ve ever experienced

    • @ryantrudell4686
      @ryantrudell4686 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude, same. Almost exactly the same. Front impact concussion in 2013, was right as rain within a few days. Took an accidental rear-impact kick to my head during MMA training in 2021, and it was about a 3-4 months recovery process, with a lingering effects.

    • @brqxton8974
      @brqxton8974 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryantrudell4686 mine wasn't as bad as that, likely due to severity of injury. But yeah there's just something about rear skull impact injuries that our bodies just cannot handle as well

    • @MoralesCorner
      @MoralesCorner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brqxton8974 if you touch the back of your head you can see there's a softer spot where your brain and top of your spine are not really very protected by bones and muscle tissue. It's scary to think how easy it is to cause damage in that area. I'm happy both of you are okay because the recovery process from those blows sounds scary too.

    • @bigpapi6688
      @bigpapi6688 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MoralesCorner it’s also incredibly dangerous because of the brain stem. It wasn’t uncommon, when rabbit punches were still legal in boxing, to see boxers brain stems get split, or even detached altogether, which would kill the boxers before they had time to be taken out of the ring

    • @carolphillips1593
      @carolphillips1593 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope your migraines have ceased?? Be okay.🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @crans15
    @crans15 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A few years ago in an Australian cricket match a batter was hit in the back of the head by the ball and was dead a few hours later. That area of the body is so vulnerable and shame on anyone who strikes you with your back turned.

    • @TechMyLifeVideo
      @TechMyLifeVideo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly Hughes was technically dead within second of the blow. A relative of mine was killed by a blow to the back of the head in a school yard in the 70s which lead to Cricket balls being banned in school yards.

  • @kingjones335
    @kingjones335 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Wow didn't realized how serious this was, great info and great video

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour ปีที่แล้ว

      Ban the degenerate from the league. Where he will only be able to work at a fast food chain because he can no longer put a ball in a hoop.

    • @RainbowJesusChavez
      @RainbowJesusChavez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly his channel has made me react the opposite way. When I saw that blow I was super worried, really glad to hear he seems to be okay.

  • @martinpospisil3747
    @martinpospisil3747 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of the reasons why hitting back of the head is not allowed in MMA or Boxing. That shit can leave you dead or even cripple for life.

  • @shaun4655
    @shaun4655 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    There was an incident like this about 15 years ago where I live. There was an adult softball league and after a game some guy was angry and did this to another guy - he ended up killing him with one punch. Scary stuff.

    • @trystdodge6177
      @trystdodge6177 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn what a beast.

    • @tinaminowski1014
      @tinaminowski1014 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@trystdodge6177 watch yourself

    • @trystdodge6177
      @trystdodge6177 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sixers Fan I hit kill. You don't even get that in most video games. It's impressive, that's all.

    • @Tom_bradys_unretirement
      @Tom_bradys_unretirement ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trystdodge6177Nothing cool about killing someone with a sucker punch while their back is turned. What a loser

    • @trystdodge6177
      @trystdodge6177 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Olvin G I didn't say it was cool, I said it was impressive. Nuclear weapons are also impressive and I don't find them cool. One punching someone to death is quite a feat.

  • @boodaviking2736
    @boodaviking2736 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    That's a rest of the season suspension. Way more dangerous than punching someone in the face

    • @hildenbrandt21
      @hildenbrandt21 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      disagree. I highly doubt Hayes had any idea a back of the head retaliation was any more dangerous than a front of the head retaliation. Hayes absolutely should face a suspension here, not just a fine, but I doubt he knew the significance of the strike he threw when he went about it.

    • @manbingo4347
      @manbingo4347 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      It still is extremely dangerous, you can't plead ignorance as an excuse.

    • @woahblackbetty7691
      @woahblackbetty7691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Removed from nba for good. That thug should be breaking rocks on a railway

    • @evileyegaming405
      @evileyegaming405 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@hildenbrandt21 bro is a professional athlete it's his job to know basic body risks and functions to stay at top shape and prevent injuries he definitely knew

    • @hildenbrandt21
      @hildenbrandt21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@evileyegaming405 not sure where I said that wasn't the fact. I just dont think a 45-50 game suspension for a first time offender is anywhere near rational.

  • @skwirlman96
    @skwirlman96 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Forget a year long suspension, that's assault and wildly dangerous. Fucking sue him

    • @egprojects
      @egprojects ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sue the sh#$ out of him; its the civil way to solve this problem and will establish a deterrent for the thugs if they lose their livelihood.

  • @MR-ue6nr
    @MR-ue6nr ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wow. Was looking for more videos on this. This is all I needed.

  • @neongreen5855
    @neongreen5855 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate that you take the time to make these videos, thank you VERY much!

  • @animals4955
    @animals4955 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    thanks for putting this out doc. appreciate the analysis and learned something about these types of injuries.

    • @louiscyfer6944
      @louiscyfer6944 ปีที่แล้ว

      the good doctor seems to have made a mistake. he said stains to the ligaments and sprains to the tendons, but strain would be to the muscle, and a ligament damage would be a sprain.

  • @mod134
    @mod134 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Thank you for getting this video posted so quickly. Keep up the great work 👍

    • @daleychips7463
      @daleychips7463 ปีที่แล้ว

      He broke it down too quickly. There are different angles of the event. Wagner was knocked out by bumping heads with Stewart after being pushed from behind by Diallo.

  • @youcantmakeclaimsofexisten3898
    @youcantmakeclaimsofexisten3898 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Swizz beatz said it best.
    “Don’t start nothing, it won’t be nothing”

  • @Billsomebody89
    @Billsomebody89 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Definitely nice to see this covered and explained. I understand the frustration after being shoulder pushed to the bench, but you should never rabbit punch someone! Hopefully these players are informed about the very serious injuries that can occur with a rabbit punch.

    • @Dawg476
      @Dawg476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both players are cowards imo. That was hella dirty by Wagner. IMO someone throwing a 6’5 215 pound dude into a fan that’s like 5’8 is just as bad.

    • @dale4070
      @dale4070 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dawg476 Paralysis or a bruised leg after having a guy fall on me. I think imma take, This guys an asshole for 500 Alex.

    • @Billsomebody89
      @Billsomebody89 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dawg476 the push Wagner did is definitely what instigated the rabbit punch, but players need to be informed about the serious danger of a punch to the back of someone's head. Wagner got the suspension/fee as well, and rightfully so. But again players need to be aware of the full outcome of a rabbit punch. More than their career can be ended. Unfortunately quite a large amount still have trouble handling impulse and emotions, especially at a young age when those hormones are still flying everywhere.

    • @Dawg476
      @Dawg476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Billsomebody89 I agree all I’m saying is both are very bad.

    • @R-A-9
      @R-A-9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shouldn’t have turned his back after the body check

  • @jeremiahhardel2646
    @jeremiahhardel2646 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    how do you get these out so quickly? dudes insane

    • @mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028
      @mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I was thinking that, too. It would be one thing to just jump on and drop this knowledge, but dude comes professional and with video and graphics in no time!

    • @bpdmf2798
      @bpdmf2798 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It isn't like he animated the graphic himself on the spot, it's likely just an anatomy graphic program he has installed for these videos. He just showed it and talked about info he already knows about. Probably took him 10 or 20 minutes to make and edit.

    • @SlimThrull
      @SlimThrull ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty sure he has a time machine.

    • @likejimi5845
      @likejimi5845 ปีที่แล้ว

      RDC world of the medical community

    • @iamdeadski
      @iamdeadski ปีที่แล้ว

      he’s rushed videos that were completely incorrect before so i’m assuming that he rushes to make the most money, seems cheesy but w/e

  • @mikhailboldt3417
    @mikhailboldt3417 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    I feel really bad 😢 for athletes that have to go through this kind of thing in game. Bumps bruises torn ligaments and broken bones are part of sport but this kind of nonsense is truly horrible. These are human beings that have lives to return families that rely on them they feel pain they experience the same human things we do for this to happen this way is messed up. So sorry for him this should never ever occur again. Forget bush league forget cheap shot that guy if he hits him wrong in the head the neck the dude could straight up die out there absolutely pathetic

    • @zachdancy5828
      @zachdancy5828 ปีที่แล้ว

      He would be Targeted by my team the Very Next time we played in Every Single Team I have ever played for. I teach self defense now, so he can catch these hands legs and hip throws on concrete now if he wanted. I have Zero empathy for cowards like this! Killian, Lol, just the name makes one want to help him live up to it for being Trash trying to injure Mo

    • @aking2330
      @aking2330 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      This was s extreme over reaction of a comment. Its a sport

    • @batpone
      @batpone ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@aking2330 Yes, and it's horrible sportsmanship.

    • @MrIrrelevant58
      @MrIrrelevant58 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@aking2330 Proof you know nothing about sports.

    • @9thecolor51
      @9thecolor51 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@aking2330 Exactly. A mere game shouldn't result in death due to a little kid's tantrum.

  • @chhansen9813
    @chhansen9813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brian Sutterer MD is the GOAT of sports medicine, PERIOD!

  • @joshwoodVball
    @joshwoodVball ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this I love watching your videos and my teacher in sports med showed us your video on hamlin

  • @beardown6574
    @beardown6574 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video Doc! When I first saw this video I had no idea it was that severe.

  • @tommychew6544
    @tommychew6544 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Didn't realize the importance of that area, thanks for sharing! Guess it kind of helps explain the death of Dale Earhart in what seemed like a simple collision with the wall, it was the whiplash effect and what it caused to happen.

    • @BartBasquiato
      @BartBasquiato ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why it's illegal in combat sports

    • @ghosttheripper8656
      @ghosttheripper8656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohhhhhhh, that makes a lot of sense

    • @robertredmon6387
      @robertredmon6387 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What killed Dale Earnhardt Sr was basilar skull fracture

    • @ryantrudell4686
      @ryantrudell4686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was not a simple collision into the wall. At those speeds, even what seem like impact the wall at “benign” angles still delivers the a tremendous amount of violent force to the car. And without today’s safety devices for drivers, Ernhardt didn’t have a chance

    • @tommychew6544
      @tommychew6544 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryantrudell4686 I should have said seemed like a sliding slow speed impact with the wall, admittedly. In my years of watching racing since the 70's I've seen much harder impacts not have the same outcome. Dale was my dad's favorite driver, he would argue with anyone over Dale's way of driving that many didn't like. I have nothing but fond memories of him arguing with my aunts and uncles over who the best driver was.

  • @kjax0630
    @kjax0630 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The size of these men taking cheap shots is absolutely devastating.

  • @michaela5624
    @michaela5624 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Avid fight fan here and was seriously worried for Warner after that back of the head blow. Can’t believe people were making a meme out of this

    • @eljerc5894
      @eljerc5894 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the NBA is all about racism and anti-white racism

    • @cipherP9
      @cipherP9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Wagner cheap shot the other guy first. I can’t believe how many people choose to forget what he did that caused the other guy to react the way he did.

    • @jodgo26metal
      @jodgo26metal ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cipherP9 then why hit on a dangerous spot?

    • @cipherP9
      @cipherP9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jodgo26metal … for one thing most people don’t even know how dangerous hits to the back of the head are. Besides that, in a real fight where 2 guys don’t like each other, the mission is not to care for your opponent. Your question is a terrible one, you could have just used common sense to answer your own question.

  • @ramonew7815
    @ramonew7815 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He was actually dazed from Diallo's push before that.

    • @danieldimayo3482
      @danieldimayo3482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed the same thing…it seemed like he was somewhat limp from the whiplash after Diallo pushed him in the back. Which makes the cheap shot punch even worse

  • @denniskasiyan4938
    @denniskasiyan4938 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I personally dealt with a hit to back of my head from football and even though it was not the hardest hit in the world and I didn’t get knocked, I still missed 1.5 months which sucked so much especially when I never had an idea when I would be good.

  • @johnnyz2498
    @johnnyz2498 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was always curious so I’m glad you cleared that up

  • @marcrinadaniel9144
    @marcrinadaniel9144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty u Doc for that analysis. Its always interesting

  • @florencefortyseven
    @florencefortyseven ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can you do a video on migraines? It was interesting to see people again questioning whether Pam Oliver was having a stroke during the Dolphins and Packers game. She's been dealing with migraines that affect her speech on camera for some years now.

  • @matthewmeadows1617
    @matthewmeadows1617 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sucker or rabbit punch I have encountered once in my life this is like a flashback in my head passing me out and I was still breathing as a teenager that person who did that to me did not have a good life rest in peace from O.D. a few years later.

  • @Vilgaswam
    @Vilgaswam ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How was this put out so quickly? Love ur stuff bro❤

  • @meef1610
    @meef1610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks doc

  • @beaversroastingbacon1679
    @beaversroastingbacon1679 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bro was having a great season praying for him

    • @robertcane7432
      @robertcane7432 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's franz with the great season, but prayers up for sure for moe

  • @hyperrat12
    @hyperrat12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Three of my four concussions were hits to the back of my head, and let me tell you they are very, very serious. my last one was a seriously close call as I hit that bump on the back of the head with the full force of my body weight onto the edge of a solid wood chair (a woman moved my chair to go to the bathroom), so when I went to sit, chair wasn't where my butt was, but rather the back of my head. It was a delayed concussion and I remember about 5-10 minutes after, then being completely lifeless but hearing myself throwing up and my sister and her boyfriend carrying my limp body. I'm very lucky and thankful to still be alive after that last one.

  • @devenabilay7358
    @devenabilay7358 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this channel

  • @fritzvanlonden1388
    @fritzvanlonden1388 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw that Hayes was suspended for 3 games after this brawl. He should've been done for the season in my opinion. It reminds me of the Bertuzzi-Moore incident in the NHL back in 2004.

  • @d.michael372
    @d.michael372 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hayes is soooo lucky. I thought the NBA was going to get him for like 12 games for that blow. Good you covered this.

  • @kev1544
    @kev1544 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're wrong Doc. He was out before the forearm to the head.

  • @markrimelspach7041
    @markrimelspach7041 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great update. Did not really consider blows to the back of the head before and the potential damage.

  • @NeoJester416
    @NeoJester416 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video as always

  • @shikamarunara9507
    @shikamarunara9507 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wtf bruh I didn't even know this happened

  • @russgodinho3358
    @russgodinho3358 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not to mention that it was a 'Spineless ' move by Mr.Hayes

  • @nicholasolivarez9047
    @nicholasolivarez9047 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hit was scary tonight on Bills game, would love to hear your analysis doc

  • @BrothaSmart
    @BrothaSmart ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info as always! Definitely going to have to see what caused this scuffle.
    Happy holidays everyone! 🙏🏿 be safe out there, call the uber!

    • @___Anakin.Skywalker
      @___Anakin.Skywalker ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh it's always darkskins tryna put us liteskins down. Get yo jelouse ahh outta hea. It wasn't not a serious thing. Killian jus protected himself

  • @noah_thompson5
    @noah_thompson5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i’m sitting here waiting for the video on what happened to Damar Hamlin

  • @Reathety
    @Reathety ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No one in the sports world has talked about the danger of what Wagner did. I'm glad someone is talking about it.

    • @timboshanghai6785
      @timboshanghai6785 ปีที่แล้ว

      That happens 50 times each soccer match because u cant use ur arms to shove

    • @moeknows5418
      @moeknows5418 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean Hayes?

  • @ShugKapone_ShuggieSeize
    @ShugKapone_ShuggieSeize ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid. Now I gotta see one on a sneak push from the side unexpectedly and what that can do to the body.....becuz the Piston player did catch that shove out the blue. Thats why they dont allow that in the Nfl how Mac Jones sneaks from the side or behind still hitting someone. Nice vid Bro. I wanna holla atcha on some of my epilepsy events these past 6 years of having em.

  • @caitlynmcknight4456
    @caitlynmcknight4456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spent this last semester learning and looking at case studies with spinal cord and brain stem issues, so it was really interesting to see something like this in real life. Great video!

  • @BlackjackGamer1
    @BlackjackGamer1 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This incident is reminiscent of the infamous Todd Bertuzzi rabbit punch that led to paralysis.

    • @UCbaker
      @UCbaker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but the punch isn't what knocked him out. Watch in slow motion. it's the push that rocks is head initially

    • @DneilB007
      @DneilB007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The real damage was from all 275 lbs of Bertuzzi in full gear landing on Moore’s neck when he fell down on Moore. His forearm came right down on Moore’s neck, just like doc talked about in this video.

  • @Noahcantgame
    @Noahcantgame ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'm curious if you saw some of the other angles of this incident. It seemed like his eyes were closed and his head was wobbly before the blow was struck.

    • @a.k.446
      @a.k.446 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I noticed that. Maybe that was from the push by Diallo.

    • @12kd
      @12kd ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I was noticing the same thing. Seemed woozy from the initial push in the back. Was wondering about whiplash.

    • @2299mikey
      @2299mikey ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They were. He was out before he got punched. The punch was more of a forearm push. The first push he either got whiplash or got rocked when his head went into the bench players chest

    • @bpdmf2798
      @bpdmf2798 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Probably just a reaction to being pushed. It happens fast. That wobbly and eyes closed was like 0.1 seconds long and was probably just a reaction to the push in the back.

    • @quoththekraven5911
      @quoththekraven5911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I tried convincing people of that right after it happened and everybody thought I was nuts.

  • @FlashJonesTrains
    @FlashJonesTrains ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What this means if you watched the game or seen the replay is: don't start sh*t bc some people don't f**k around.

  • @christianteam3470
    @christianteam3470 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's nice to get an objective view on this Doc, I'm tired of all the people that try to paint right from wrong when their both wrong in different ways. Just hope it doesn't happen again.

  • @wannabemedontu
    @wannabemedontu ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I hate to see the dirty push into the bench that could have ended Hayes season that started all this

    • @sinsoreshippromotesconform8218
      @sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least you’re being reasonable not saying what Killian did was right but once you agitate someone like that expect a reaction that is erratic and sometimes violent.

    • @1dre0313
      @1dre0313 ปีที่แล้ว

      agree 100%

  • @danburrito3343
    @danburrito3343 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yeah Killian has to be suspended for a while. Worse than Ron Artest because it was about as intentional as you can get.

    • @zeezydoesit7416
      @zeezydoesit7416 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 games suspended. Clearly you should keep your dumb comments to your self

    • @danburrito3343
      @danburrito3343 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zeezydoesit7416 I could say the same thing about your comment lmao

  • @xeansalvador3222
    @xeansalvador3222 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Mr. Brian Sutterer MD, could you please make a video about Anthony Davis Injury about navicular bone at this foot? When you're explaining it gives me more clarity thank you!

  • @elliottsantiago1638
    @elliottsantiago1638 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU educate them Mr.know class well done . 🤓🥊

  • @1020percent
    @1020percent ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stuff like this is why humans propensity for violence is so insane to me. I feel like very few realize how dangerous even one strike can be.

  • @SRQBID
    @SRQBID ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "And, apparently, sometimes the NBA..." is the kind of sardonicism I search the internet for and keeps me going in life. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @marcusyoung4789
    @marcusyoung4789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should definitely do the newest injury from last night it’s crazy what happened

  • @climax050
    @climax050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am shocked that so many people didn't know this was a thing and were making jokes and being very light about it. I live in Australia and grew up hearing horror stories from my family and friends and on the news about people who go out, get drunk, get into an altercation and get hit in the back of the head and never go home. Fairly certain we even have laws about it, I didn't realize so many people were so ignorant about how dangerous it is.

  • @MrCreepYT
    @MrCreepYT ปีที่แล้ว +71

    did kylian get suspended for this? i get he was pushed but cmon

    • @rogermazuca4582
      @rogermazuca4582 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Oh he will definitely. It just happened tonight

    • @kingswag9823
      @kingswag9823 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      He's done

    • @squalltheonly
      @squalltheonly ปีที่แล้ว +70

      He should go to jail, that's attempted murder straight up.

    • @muhammetyusufyagiz1073
      @muhammetyusufyagiz1073 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@squalltheonly you can definitely turn someone into a vegetable with such a punch

    • @lsowner10
      @lsowner10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@squalltheonly what’s your “race” listed on your ID card?

  • @bigbabo800
    @bigbabo800 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why is it always the Detroit pistons?

    • @sinsoreshippromotesconform8218
      @sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Motor mentality they don’t put up with bs. Moe wasn’t innocent after all he started it.

    • @trentrandle
      @trentrandle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 innocence is one thing, getting hit is another, but “motor city mentality” looking pretty stupid if this is where you decide to hit someone. I’ve never hit someone when they weren’t looking, if they deserved to get hit or not.

    • @sinsoreshippromotesconform8218
      @sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trentrandle You don’t understand defending yourself. You’re a I’ll take it and submit little boy which is fine but not respected nor relatable

    • @trentrandle
      @trentrandle ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 i don’t understand defending myself but have a whole ass self defense belt and certificate?

  • @LatrinaDeshawntey
    @LatrinaDeshawntey ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video about high estrogen levels in different groups of people, and the behavior associated with it? Thanks!

  • @rookincharge2780
    @rookincharge2780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got hit in the back of the head by a teammate in hs. My coach couldn't understand how I had a concussion but my teammate didn't. She hit the front of her head and didn't get checked out. I got hit in the back, blacked out, had a headache for 2 days, and went to get diagnosed. Back of the head is dangerous af.

  • @dub88acc
    @dub88acc ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Doc just gave Hayes a 30 game suspension 😔

    • @rstlr01
      @rstlr01 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should get charged with assault with deadly intent!

  • @cama296
    @cama296 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I need some context with Damar Hamlin. Was it similar to christian erikson or no?

  • @chasedaugherty1834
    @chasedaugherty1834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you make one on the Hamlin injury??? I want to know what happened

  • @KayneMakesVideos
    @KayneMakesVideos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’ve been hit in the back of my head, not even at 100% and I was completely dazed and barely stayed on my feet. it’s brutal

  • @Doomthinkingman
    @Doomthinkingman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Killian just punched his exit ticket out the NBA and is gonna be flying to China pretty soon.

  • @-EchoesIntoEternity-
    @-EchoesIntoEternity- ปีที่แล้ว +17

    coward thug move

    • @e2zbasketball288
      @e2zbasketball288 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Typical blck guys

    • @chibifranklin1880
      @chibifranklin1880 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@e2zbasketball288 what does that mean?

    • @MrCreepYT
      @MrCreepYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@e2zbasketball288 aight e2zbasketball calm down

    • @e2zbasketball288
      @e2zbasketball288 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCreepYT you know im right

    • @nasty2168
      @nasty2168 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@e2zbasketball288 Ignore the hundreds of other "black" guys (or any human beings whatever color) in the league with different upbringings that wouldn't do this and generalize off of one who was pushed into the stands by Mo in the first place. Then barely hit with what most people would think wouldn't hurt anyone but just happened to be on the sweet spot on back of the head.

  • @jaymahnC5
    @jaymahnC5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scary! Very uncalled for

  • @toby6418
    @toby6418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now, not completely sure if it’s the same thing, but the results of hits like that are essentially the reason race car drivers don’t die much anymore. Back when Dale Earnhardt died in the Daytona 500 from a basal skull fracture from a crash, NASCAR and subsequently just about all other car racing series mandated the use of the HANS (Head And Neck Safety) device, which specifically prevents the jerking of the head forward in a crash. No driver has died from a basal skull fracture while using a HANS device to my knowledge.

  • @mason.11
    @mason.11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching this as an NHL fan… did he just recreate Todd Bertuzzi???

  • @Rayzajw
    @Rayzajw ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow I just realized my concussion I had playing Rugby this year nearly ended me. I was trying to steal the ball in a counter ruck/jackal move when I was taken out by a opposition shoulder to the back of the neck. Usually the offender is red carded but the Ref was on some bullshxt that day

    • @skymagruder5270
      @skymagruder5270 ปีที่แล้ว

      That always made me nervous at the ruck, wide stance, go to secure ball when someone flies in with a shoulder without binding to the ruck or even coming thru the gate. A good amateur official has to police that part of the game. I never understood why they took stamping on the hands and forearms seriously but didn’t always gaf about dangerous clean outs

  • @trich9367
    @trich9367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah soon as I gain consciousness I’m coming for ole boy 💪🏾👊🏾

  • @shelbysmama4974
    @shelbysmama4974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doc, is the medulla oblongata ever at risk of being damaged from a punch like this?

  • @Whoareyouuuuuu
    @Whoareyouuuuuu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know your prob working on it, but we need a video for damar Hamlin

  • @lisafan6365
    @lisafan6365 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everyone refreshing the page after monday night football

  • @d15z1sux
    @d15z1sux ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I been hit in the back of head before. It literally went black and I saw stars for like half a second.

  • @sauer800
    @sauer800 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is exactly what the Bengals TE did to Bills player Taron Johnson at the start of the game Monday night. He left with a head injury and nothing else was said due to Hamlins injury.

  • @jlamiranda
    @jlamiranda ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If you missed it take a look at the original video closely right after the hit in the back of his head it looks like he actually got knocked out for a few seconds. That's crazy.

    • @DeepmedZ
      @DeepmedZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was already knocked out....before the punch

  • @currentgeography7702
    @currentgeography7702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am absolutely disgusted with the NBA. They barely suspended his for 3 games. They suspended MO for 2 absolutely ridiculous!!!!

    • @jceeb3087
      @jceeb3087 ปีที่แล้ว

      You funny!!!! I'm a Mo Wagner fan, he put Killian in danger when he could have been paralyzed and others also. I guess you don't watch hockey they do it all the time!

    • @currentgeography7702
      @currentgeography7702 ปีที่แล้ว

      *steps in front of him to cut him off
      He could’ve paralyzed him 🤡

  • @billybob6604
    @billybob6604 ปีที่แล้ว

    watching that Bills Games and the first person I thought about was you
    waiting for that damar hamlin vid
    if I had to guess it looked like commotio cordis

  • @ThatGirlDee86
    @ThatGirlDee86 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back in 2004, I was assaulted in college and hit in the back of my head with a fire extinguisher in nearly the very same place spot. I was sitting down at my desk, typing on my computer and never seen the attack coming. Everything this doctor stated in this video is factual.

    • @undergroundunlimited2282
      @undergroundunlimited2282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man I’ve got to hear this whole story. Do you mind sharing?

    • @ThatGirlDee86
      @ThatGirlDee86 ปีที่แล้ว

      @underground unlimited sure. My roommate at the time assumed I didn't like her. I was mostly into my schooling and not into the in-crowd. And this was during a weird time here in TX when there was this whole Dallas vs Fort Worth madness. Well, they found out I was from Fort Worth and it was pure hell, daily. To be fair, my roommate did tell me she was going to beat my tail yo the point she would kill me but me just being someone who stayed to themselves, I payed it no mind. The way our apartment was set up, my back faced the front door so I never seen the assault coming. I can only recall her telling me moments before, "B, you will die today" but the front door never closed. I was on the phone with my Grandmother the entire time leading to the assault. All I can recall is that I woke up in the hospital. The team of doctors said I had a fracture to my spine as a result of being hit with a fire extinguisher. I had two black eyes. A concussion. It was a total mess to say the least.

  • @TheBatosai
    @TheBatosai ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Came for the violence , stayed for the education.

    • @bwesleyg
      @bwesleyg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love it 😂😂

    • @chumps7974
      @chumps7974 ปีที่แล้ว

      I came for the comments

  • @SpiritMover314
    @SpiritMover314 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This exact type of nonsense is why I don’t see why Rob Gronkowski was given a pass on the hit to the back of the Bills player’s head some years ago (A much stronger football player at that)…That guy as well, never saw it coming. Busch League crap right here.

  • @easye6526
    @easye6526 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do an update on the AD injury please?

  • @lonewolfpoetics
    @lonewolfpoetics ปีที่แล้ว

    Would there be a higher likelihood of whiplash with a blow like this? Not necessarily to the back of the head (in terms of MMA) but in this particular scenario, where the person being hit is standing?

  • @josephpfrengle4357
    @josephpfrengle4357 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That dude had to be suspended at least for the rest of the year

  • @mostlypeacefulmisterputin
    @mostlypeacefulmisterputin ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This video saved my 8 year olds life!
    He was walking through the living room, I told him to go straighten up his room before he was getting any Xbox time….he turned around and let out a passive-aggressive sigh, and started stomping away….
    My first thought was “elbow right in back of the head will cure that!”, I made it out of my recliner and got one step into my sprint, and the ad ended and started playing your video 😢
    Thank you for saving our family and both of my sons brain cells Dr. Sutterer

    • @yorksfolly1255
      @yorksfolly1255 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Huhhh I hope this is a joke

    • @ddawg468
      @ddawg468 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Call CPS on yourself if this is true

    • @smimu4854
      @smimu4854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What the hell

  • @silverbackmma7113
    @silverbackmma7113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aspiring mma fighter, I hope that they start being more strict about back of the head strikes in mma

  • @liamleech4748
    @liamleech4748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He was awake the whole time just laying there I thought

  • @kristiannelson1851
    @kristiannelson1851 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am DONE with the NBA. I don't know what has changed, or what happened. But watching NBA games now is like watching 12 year olds play. It is out of control.

    • @thebohr11
      @thebohr11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. Dude the NBA is as non contact and soft as it's ever been. The 80s and 90s would have given you PTSD