You actually can use Usmash OOS to cover a multiple options as well, especially if the opponent misspaces their aerial on your shield. Because of the 25 frame start up at the front, the opponent can be put into a situation where they either have to spotdodge because they are within grab range (somehow), or shield, dash away, jump to reset pressure, or even roll in to avoid the shieldgrab. Sorry for my wording btw but you'll get what I mean in a moment. If the opponent misspaces a safe-on-shield move (-8 or safer), and they immediately buffer roll-in or spotdodge to avoid the grab, they'll get hit. If they try to reset shield pressure by jumping again, there's a good chance you'll low profile their attack or hit them out of the air if they go for a cross up. While it's not nearly as applicable at in advantage, it still has its uses over Aether OOS. Or you know, you could just wait for them to choose an option, *then* use Aether OOS.
Already knew about this one as a shield break set up and to dodge/punish some grabs but the few times I've attempted it I got punished, but is great to see someone taking the time to explain it properly and the range of options it covers. GGs
Been doing this since the start of the game. It's a great option. I've broken a few shields and gotten some straight up kills off of someone trying to hit me lol
Ive been seriously maining ike since smash 4, and ive used up smash like this even back then. My friends play very respectfully of this move. I don't spam it of course, but use it in these situations and to catch jumps.
Hey I'm kinda new and I was drawn to ike at first bust I see in 12.0 he is a b tier character. Would it be best to main another character or is b tier good enough to main
In smash ultimate, practically every character is viable. Even the bottom tier characters can see success at tournaments. For example, Peanut and Hungrybox main characters that are considered bottom 5, but they are still great players.
This is a nice little trick. You know his real secret weapon is indeed ragnell. But Ragnell is both a throwing sword and has a magic blade beam like cloud. He just chooses not to use either in smash.
This video is dumb, his secret weapon is actually his big sword, Ragnell
I’ve always loved the swayback on upsmash, but it feels like the payoff got nerfed every game - is it just my imagination?
I'm a couple years late watching this, but apparently I wasn't the only one. th-cam.com/video/WU5LnsM6Z0o/w-d-xo.html
I love how even the fundamental characters still have evolving metagames
This one has been used a decent amount for some time, but it's good that more Ikes are being made aware at this point.
Ike never ceases to surprise me
You actually can use Usmash OOS to cover a multiple options as well, especially if the opponent misspaces their aerial on your shield. Because of the 25 frame start up at the front, the opponent can be put into a situation where they either have to spotdodge because they are within grab range (somehow), or shield, dash away, jump to reset pressure, or even roll in to avoid the shieldgrab. Sorry for my wording btw but you'll get what I mean in a moment.
If the opponent misspaces a safe-on-shield move (-8 or safer), and they immediately buffer roll-in or spotdodge to avoid the grab, they'll get hit. If they try to reset shield pressure by jumping again, there's a good chance you'll low profile their attack or hit them out of the air if they go for a cross up. While it's not nearly as applicable at in advantage, it still has its uses over Aether OOS.
Or you know, you could just wait for them to choose an option, *then* use Aether OOS.
Jordy once again telling me to usmash
I use up smash pretty often but this offers so much insight! I haven't been using the move to it's full potential D:
Really appreciate new Ike stuff
did you find the hidden command input to use the sword laser from POR/RD?
I love your videos like this one. Concise and helpful
I did the reverse up smash against a lucina awhile ago and I still cherish it
Holy crap anyone else feel like the quality on this was fantastic?
As soon as I saw the title I knew it was gonna be up smash it has so much shocking use
I like how pro players get so technical to the point where it reverses and upsmash is now a “secret” 😂
it’s too hard to land backwards in front of them after any attack against their shield tho
And now, this is even more useful. Up smash got buffed babyyyyy
Already knew about this one as a shield break set up and to dodge/punish some grabs but the few times I've attempted it I got punished, but is great to see someone taking the time to explain it properly and the range of options it covers. GGs
it does have one use out of shield: calling out crossups
Been doing this since the start of the game. It's a great option. I've broken a few shields and gotten some straight up kills off of someone trying to hit me lol
Ive been seriously maining ike since smash 4, and ive used up smash like this even back then. My friends play very respectfully of this move. I don't spam it of course, but use it in these situations and to catch jumps.
And now we know, hehehe last week I played Ike, would of been cool too know, got many back airs read xD
Haven't watched yet but im guessing its his big sword? Sleeper meta ngl, it has range and also hits man
I've already been utilizing the up smash dodge lmao. It's great.
Sexy Ike content right here👌🏻1:31
I'm mostly a down Smash user but no doubt that Ragnell range is nuts
You tried that on me before I broke your shield
shhh
@@SoloJones ok
Wait this is actually kinda nuts
sheeeeeeeeeesh!
Great content :)!!
Such a cool video, I don't even play ike.
When u comment 4 algorithm
Ike USmash hurtbox shifting is actually obnoxious
Has this changed since patch 13? for the better I assume?
His sword
Hey I'm kinda new and I was drawn to ike at first bust I see in 12.0 he is a b tier character. Would it be best to main another character or is b tier good enough to main
Play whoever you find fun!
In smash ultimate, practically every character is viable. Even the bottom tier characters can see success at tournaments. For example, Peanut and Hungrybox main characters that are considered bottom 5, but they are still great players.
i've mained marth for over 2 years now but at the rate this is going im just gonna main ike lol
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Looks like someone else figured this out….
This is a nice little trick.
You know his real secret weapon is indeed ragnell. But Ragnell is both a throwing sword and has a magic blade beam like cloud. He just chooses not to use either in smash.