The Spoony Experiment/Pat the NES Punk - Highlander: Endgame (DVD Version) Review (Full) (Reupload)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2019
- Originally uploaded 11/01/10 through 11/03/10 in 3 parts
Spoony and Pat the NES Punk review the 4th Highlander movie in the franchise.
(Credit to reddit user Imaani for providing me with a copy of this review! Without them, I might not have ever found it.) - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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ive only ever had 2 parts of this review. im so happy there are people preserving spoony's work.
Kell killed 661 immortals. Then killed 5 of his men. Making it 666. In case you didn't get that he's evil.
Yup. The saddest part is someone was probably really proud of that and thought it was subtle attention to detail. *facepalm* They should have just gone full camp with it at that point and had him twirling a moustache and ranting in comedy fashion. It'd at least have made for some hilarious clips, like with the Street Fighter movie.
Never noticed that. That's hilarious :).
Highlander has a problem how the creators sign off on some shit is beyond me. Lets take the hole "amount of heads taken = power". The reality is....not really...case and point, Duncan who had less kills than both Connor and Kell, takes Connors quickening and has the power to beat Kell. They literally rendered the entire premise of why the bad guy is powerful pointless. Beginning of movie "Its quantity!" end of movie "It's about quality!". Quality over quantity actually makes more sense in this scenario. It's not like Kell took 4000 heads.
The reality is, they shouldn't to have Duncan take Connor's head or vice versa. Look at some of the villains Duncan killed. I mean, age matters "ancient" immortals didn't live that long because they suck.
1. 3 of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse all dated to at least the bronze age.
2. Grayson who was like 2000 years old.
3. Damon Case who was 1000 years old and literally lived for the game and fought every immortal he came across as he felt the game was his divine duty. How many dudes did he kill over his thousand years? Probably would call Kell's 600 something rookie numbers.
Having a guy that is the same age as Connor.."cheating" his way to a high head count, does not make for a compelling imposing villain. The "amount" of heads you take is irrelevant to the value of those heads. I mean, It's like saying I absorbed the knowledge of 300 people that play VR fencing or I absorbed the knowledge from 5 people from history that were actually accomplished sword duelists.
@@tsdobbi I have some points on which I don't agree with you. Duncan did take Connors quickening but that did not make him stronger than Kell. It was obvious in their fight that Kell was heavily overpowering him while also holding back in order to play and taunt him, Duncan only won after a quick sequence of attacks and some deus ex machina jump that caught Kell by surprise, so I don't agree that they rendered the premise pointless. You are speculating that someone like Damon Case probably took more heads than Kell since he was living for the game and battled every immortal he came across. Thing is immortals aren't found so often. The whole initial premise of the TV show was that it was the time of The Gathering which explained why Duncan was coming across so many of his former enemies from centuries ago. If you look at the Highlander wiki he took something like 70-80 heads during the whole show and the show takes place for a period of roughly 6 years from 1992 to 1998. That is nearly half of his total 174, so it took him nearly 400 years to amass 90-100 and Kell is basically close to Connor's age I checked in the wiki he is actually 77 years older than Duncan no more so these numbers of 172 and 661 don't seem so ilogical or rookie numbers. You make the argument that Kell shouldn't be stronger than Connor just because of the amount of heads, thing is you don't know how powerful the immortals Kell killed were. Also I think I read somewhere that the head count actually is more important than the quality because it gives you raw pure strength, if you actually pay attention to the fights Kell is not a very good swordsman, his technique is very sloppy and he mainly pressures both Connor and Duncan with brute force strikes not quality swordplay. This is just my opinion of course, you can add something if you don't agree :)
@@tsdobbi The two producers of the franchise really come off like cokeheads, so I wouldn't be surprised if all these movies were only put into production when they started running low on cash. They put that tacky JVC sign into the background of Conner's death scene then later pretended nobody knew how it got there.
"dont you want to be inside me" that line never gets old haha
"Award winning critic"
I remember the glory days, Spoony! You will always be my Hero, man. You will always be my hero.
@Zylo Wolf 2.0 I bet it was.
I agree , this guy was so funny . But as someone that also deals with mental illness, I can totally understand the rise and fall in personality. It's unfortunate, I've gone through a lot of the same stuff, one day you are motivated and getting a million things done and the next day you can't get out of bed.
When you are " up " you are a charming , charismatic human being and when you are down you alienated everyone before you know it. Then it's easier to stay away from everyone.
I feel for him because I think I have a lot of the same struggles and I hope he figures it out eventually. It's a lifetime of BS
@@jasondouglas152 Yeah, I've had mental health problems since about July 18th 2012, and it just won't go away. It just sucks.
@@SebastianLundh1988 I 100% understand. Everyone acts like I have the world by the balls because I workout and I'm in shape, but I can't keep it together to work for a month straight.
It's something that the majority of people don't understand and want to point fingers and call you lazy or stupid because it's just hard to function in day to day life.
I feel for anyone going through it, there are days my wife looks at me like I'm just worthless and it kills me, but there's literally nothing I can do about it but wait for my mania to kick in so I can deal with life's BS
@@jasondouglas152 That is life for many people with mental health problems. I don't know if you might wanna look into visiting a mental health professional or someone with your wife, so that she gets to understand your situation better. Fortunately for me, people understand that I can't be better.
What's frustrating for me is that my problems are _relatively_ benign, but I still can't get away from them.
Much like Pat, I too saw "Highander: Endgame" when it was first shown in theaters. Everything he says about that version of the movie is true-- it was a nigh incomprehensible trainwreck. In fact, this may be the first instance I can think of where a tv-edit of a film actually plays better than the original release.
There can be only one Highlander movie!
@@camwyn256 and a TV series apparently!
The franchise that really should have just been one film, the first one. The rest was "meh" at best and all too often absolutely dreadful. Their review is more entertaining than most the franchise. Thanks for reuploading this!
I think it's telling that "Gratuitous Slow Mo Unload" is what allowed me to see they were dropping rimmed SEMI AUTO cartridges from a REVOLVER.
I've got a much simpler idea for a Highlander movie.
A roster of veteran warriors versed in melee and hand-to-hand combat from all over the world are plucked out of their original time periods and brought to the present day. (Think of it as a blend of the original Highlander and Deadliest Warrior.)
They're immortal and can only be killed by decapitation as you would expect, but this time whoever kills all the other immortals gets to become mortal and go back to their original time period.
This sets up an interesting dichotomy because not every warrior might want to go back to where they came from, so their only options are to go into hiding from the other immortals or allow themselves to be killed and just get it over with.
Immortals can obviously team up to improve their odds of winning, but towards the end some very emotionally difficult battles will have to be fought among friends.
Because if even one of them wants to go back, the rest have to die.
There can be only one.
Each quickening grants supernatural powers based on which warrior was killed. So if a ninja is downed, the guy who killed him gets some form of ninja art.
It's called the quickening because immortals that get a kill-streak going have an insane advantage over pacifists who have been playing keepaway, allowing them to rack up even more kills at an exponential rate. It literally enquickens the game.
The main villain could be a power-crazed maniac like the Kurgen who enjoys fighting, but is a complete hedonist and has no interest in going back home, giving him a reason not to kill the protagonist (who is, naturally, from the Scottish highlands) the first time they fight so the hero in turn has the opportunity to stage a heroic rematch.
He's already killed about half of the other immortals and is so strong that whole groups of them are now child's play to him, so he spends the majority of the story watching other people fight, gloating, occasionally interfering because it amuses him, and looking bored waiting around for someone worthy enough to face him.
The story would create a separate timelime so that the absence of the immortals from their original time periods doesn't effect the normal course of history. So immortals from fairly recent parts of history have a good chance of finding a biography of their own lives, effectively revealing their entire future. Meaning that an immortal who previously wanted to return might discover that he meets an ignominious end anyway and is effectively robbed of all purpose, or an immortal that previously thought that his life had been ruined might discover some unexpected change that makes it worth pursuing the prize.
There's no rule against fighting on holy ground because then one of the immortals could completely ruin the game by becoming a monk and living on a monastery forever.
-- But any immortals that *do* fight on holy ground can't use any supernatural powers gained from quickenings, leveling the playing field between those with lots of kills and those without.
Now see? THIS I want to fucking see! I actually had this belief that in-universe? Blackbeard was an Immortal and so was the one who took Blackbeard's head. This would allow for historical figures in whole new contexts.
It's sad when someone can rattle off a better script in a YT comment off the cuff than something that cost millions to produce. I don't blame people who have suspicions about B (or maybe this is more C) movies being used to launder money or for balancing profits and losses for tax reasons and other such schemes.
@@bevel2414 I've found that weird too.
I used to think it was just arrogance on my part that I thought I could write better than some people already in the industry (and for a long time it was and still is) but now I see that there are a lot of conflicting interests at work in the art business; Even if a creative has the talent and skill, he may still lack the proper perspective and be under pressure from all kinds of different directions such that he cannot actually pull off nearly as good of a story as someone like me who has total leisure. It really is fascinating how nothing incurs failure so reliably as success.
@@boxtank5288 Yeah -- if two immortals were taken from the same time period, then that would add an all new layer of complexity to everything because not only would said immortals already have beef or companionship with each other the instant the game began, if either of them gets the prize, the others are erased from history.
So in the case of two hated rivals, even if one killed the other in the original timeline, if the defeated party won the game, they would effectively save their own life because their rival wouldn't go back with them; the timeline would be altered into a new timeline where their rival died under mysterious circumstances before their fated encounter.
(Alternatively the winner of the prize gets to rework fate as he sees fit so that everybody can get their own "prize" I.E the kind of life they were striving to make form themselves sin the game of the immortals. I don't like this alternative because it provides too much motivation for the villain to be anything but a hedonist. The way to get around that is have people assume the prize to be the initial version first, but then there's a twist where it's revealed that the prize is far more lucrative than just going back home.)
As for Blackbeard, I'm going to have to do some research, but he would be exactly the kind of figure that would make a good addition to the game.
Well damn I just found this comment and yeah would much prefer that than what we got though I do still love the first maybe have this as the sequel to get around the problems of there being a sequel in the first place or have macleod enter this game after beating his own. Like the first film could have been like a start up to choose those truly skilled to participate.
Ten years of one of my favorite spoony crossovers
Been looking for this video! THANK YOU!
"We're in the Endgame now"
Highlander fans wish it was, but I'm sure someone will drag the corpse of Conner up again for another run at milking it.
@@bevel2414 They've been trying to reboot it for a while now.
I remember seeing this at the movies and just hanging my head afterwards…the disappointment was too much to bare.
How is his mother in the Highlands, if he's and alien banished from.. ah fuck it.
40:32 I have to admit, having this final scene at London's Millennium Dome exhibition completely threw me.
If oooonly Spoony had become aware of the 'Highlander The Quest For Vengeance' anime OVA. He probably would have felt a little better about this franchise..
He says on the commentary he was aware of it but didn't talk about it because it wasn't terrible.
@@JDoe-gf5oz .. Yeah i learned about this ironically right after posting that. Sure wish he'd review it anyway though. -3-
@@onojioboardwalk9748 I remember him doing a text review of it although all of those text reviews have long disappeared since his website closed.
Wow, this aired 10 years ago..
"Only $89 if you book today!!" Pat then
Flash forward to 2024...
"Only $17,342.82 if you book today!!" Pat now
"Professional screen writers"
Wait. People were actually paid to write this?
The reasons Kate hated Duncan were largely irrelevant, particularly the part about being robbed of having children. They literally covered this in an episode of the series. Where a woman from Richie's past came into his life claiming he was her baby daddy and they basically came to the conclusion Immortals are sterile before and after their immortality is triggered.
I don't get why this isn't hosted by either of these reviewers
Wow, I didn't even know Lycos was still a thing by 2010...
Spoony>Pat
That is a good point. Connor's "mom" must have neglected telling him he was just a "foundling" and not his real mom.
This is how I found Pat. Lots of nostalgia wrapped up in this.
“Decap with a twist. No sugar.” That pun is just as bad as Schwarzenegger’s ice puns from Batman and Robin.
A Highlander Movie with a Ton of Flashbacks, What is this; The First One?
I dont think Conor should have died. The rules were out the window in this movie. Duncan could of gone alone to face Jacob, and then Connor helps him last second to score the victory. Both heroes stand triumphant.
The climactic fight between the Macleods needed less blurring out of the huge JVC sign in the background 😜
Both versions are equally distracting. I can only imagine what future generations will think when they see the blurred version since the theatrical version isn't available on home media.
Thank u Spoony your Awesome
This review would be awesome if it only featured spoony.
Yeah about the villian Killing on Holy ground, well the tv show did explain this.
The watchers explain that Their a recorded in italy, two Italians fighting in a temple, a volcano exploded.
Highlander: Flashback game
Did anybody feel that Old Luke Skywalker in Star Wars Episode VIII The Last Jedi was identical to Connor McCloud in this film, a depressed pacifist who turned his back on the world.
That's a pretty good analogy. Two of my top 5 of all time heroes.
That being said, I think Connor got a way better send-off.
@@dude_8434 Both heroes went through what is the final stage of Joseph Campbell's hero's journey, called "The Return." www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsCantina/comments/94h1xq/lukes_role_in_tfatlj_and_joseph_campbells_monomyth/
No. No I did not think of Connor at all.
@@PolarPhantomyes wel Luke did a washed up hero who fad seen better dsys
Both have one thing in coming, their good time is over. Seriously, I love both guys their stuff, but Spoony now does nothing, and Pat only makes odd opinion vlogs with that other guy. Why would I want to listen to a game reviewer talk 1 hour about politics?
Anyway, too bad there's only so little of both of em together.
It's a great shame that they and many others largely faded into the background when really we need people making creative and interesting content more than ever. Especially in the face of YT turning the platform into TV 2.0. Both have a lot of talent inside them if and when they choose to apply it.
@@bevel2414 They just simply burnt out, all of these early youtube reviewers faded, some badly some not so much.
@@hungarianbeast Irate Gamer is still around.
@@schwarzerritter5724 He was never that big.
@@hungarianbeast Big enough to be mocked by big reviewers.
And of course Connor mclould being well Waitsed, well Christopher Lambert was in his 20s and he was in his 50s or 60s and they wanted to retire the charecter and pass the Torch.
This awful movie removes all the events of 1985. How many immortals are still out there? There can be only 1? Yeah, a thousand and 1.
Ok so the series is a slight tweaking where the events of the first movie shows Connor winning his fight against the Kurgan BUT doesn’t exactly win the ultimate prize. So it’s kinda like how Evil dead 2 splintered into so many different sequels and followups.
34:10 Connor ☠️
There should definitely be rules about fighting on holy ground. Likes lightning strike for instance. Anything but " we can just do it because the rules are gay "
I think I read somewhere that if one kills another on holy ground the energy just goes into the ground or kills the killer as well or something like that.
In Highlander 3 they tried to fight in a Buddhist temple and their swords shattered into dust.
There can be only one Highlander movie!
Is there any proof they shot scenes just for the trailer? I looked it up and the only mention I could find cited Spoony.
I'm a fan of Pat's podcast and like his video game years documentary. It's great that he's doing well years after this review.
galleo hoop hoop
The trailer of Highlander: Endgame was better than the actual movie.
This was probably the worst form of false advertising I've ever seen for a movie because all the Cool Stuff that was shown in the trailer didn't happen in the movie because it didn't exist. They shot all those scenes just for the trailer to convince people that the movie has awesome stuff in it.
Just pathetic!!!
No Highlander III review?
No I remember a text review of it on the site. Apperantly it was closest of being good.
@@Asahamana I can agree with that. It at least just tried to be like the original with a stupid reason for a new immortal to be around.
@@Asahamana yeah it was like terminator 3, just a redo this time of highlander 1 with the excuse being the bad guys were stuck in a cave so they couldn't go to the quickening.
Like the anime, he didn't think it was terrible.
He mentioned in the commentary of this review that it was pretty much a re-hash of the first one but as that was fine with him [given it stuck to the formula] he didn't think it was bad enough to review.
Review Highlander: The Sourcee
He has. Look for it. It’s a funny review.
Kevin H. Pilgrim Oh Yah Just Found It
Honestly not a fan of Pat’s personality here, especially the Scotland tour jokes.
This movie was awful. Lambert was too old. I loved the original film, even though it's terribly flawed, but the sequels are a disaster. The show didn't have thar aura of the first film either.