Still upgraded from 530 to 1050 for the features (stats in navigation screen, sync with di2 buttons, horn) and the larger brighter screen as eyes are not what they used to be. Happy to carry the extra weight of 1050, for the screen size alone.
If you buy a used garmin, make sure you set your FTP when you get it! I ordered a refurbished 530 a few years ago and assumed everything had been reset. I found out the previous owner’s FTP was still programmed into it, and it was substantially higher than mine. Learned the hard way when I tried to use the power zone screen for the first time during a gravel race. I blew up at mile 25 and barely made it home 😂😂
I'll add to this also double-check the ride history is empty, I got an Edge 1000 used a few years back and didn't, the previous owner did lots of short rides and recorded ALL OF THEM, 3 years worth of 6 day a week commutes, trips to the corner shop for milk etc. Hours of my life wasted removing rides from Strava and other platforms, and I was still finding them months later. 🤦♂
@@Bikey_McBeardface Wow even a field setting for milk consumption and reminders. Would that be skimmed or full cream though...oh another field...or maybe chocolate, banana...zzzzz
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If you sell your used garmin, make sure to set your FTP really high, so the next owner will feel bad about it :D
@@Dzaen2 if you reset I’m sure it’s fine. I assumed it had no FTP in by default when it came to me and that it would kind of set itself based on my power data from riding (the way it does for HR zones). FTP doesn’t seem to work like that on the 530, it’s a field you have to manually enter that is then used to set your power zones.
Go for a ride without your head unit , and you’ll remember why you like cycling !!!! I think sometimes looking at numbers and comparing rides misses the point of just getting out there . Just got for a 2 hour ride on feel and you’ll take in more of the countryside and come home happier . Try it occasionally .
@ 😜 that’s my point. If you don’t hit a PB on Strava or your watts are low it can be depressing . But does it matter? Going out without a head unit might be a good video to do! Getting back to basics where the price of the cake and coffee are the only numbers you need to worry about on that ride . ☕️ 🍰 🚴♂️
@Gixer750pilot Fully agree! When we were kids we'd ride our bikes all day and refuel with a coke and candy bar from a gas station. Now we are so consumed with data, nutrition, etc that we lose signt of why we started riding in the first place.
I'm still using my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt v1. Last year I had to reset it to factory settings because it was too full of my data from several years of rides to work reliably, but now it's fine again. I'm an old guy who is a bicycle traveler more than anything else, and I'm waiting for the right combo of computer + routing service (I use RideWithGPS) that works with my large personal database of POIs to remind me of places where I want to stop and get photos to go with my GoPro footage.
I bought a Garmin 520 plus a couple of years ago. Then the other day bought another 520 plus, both brand new. I know it's not the 530 but the 520 is compact and gives me a heap of info without too much over the top metrics that next generation units seem to feature! Job done! I think modern units are totally over the top unless you're a Pro with a team of behind the scenes boffins analysing every second of a ride!😁😁😁
Hammerhead Karoo is excellent - I have the Karoo 2 after having the Karoo 1 for years and traded it in to get 2 and the features it has are brilliant. Navigation is top class and it even sees hills ahead even when you have no routes programmed in
Have the 1040 (3 years now), and upgraded to the 1050 with high expectations … and was totally disappointed upon using it. Sent the 1050 back and now back with the 1040 with high praise.
I have a refurbished Explore 2 bought on Amazon and was not expecting too much but wanted to try an alternative to my phone. It is absolutely great for what I need, far exceeded expectations once I got my head around the menu/s. Good battery life, no issues with rain and easy transferring routes from my PC. The white version even matches my frame colour 🙂
Exactly, even pro teams (Intermarche) use them and yet nobody talks about them. I have the 750SE. Amazing head unit. Never had an issue with it, no resets no hanging. Just works. And it has a really good battery too.
I also recommend the 410 version or the currently produced 420. For someone who doesn't need maps, only raw data, like %ftp, hr, speed, time, and gps track recording... Simple, well-functioning bike computer. And the screen is similar to the one on the Wahoo, it reflects light. On sales, very profitable.
I have that Garmin 520 Plus. Eight years old now. It still does everything I need. My last long ride was 8 hours and the battery was fine with still some charge available at the end. The only thing that would move me to buy new is if my rides become longer than the battery can manage.
You can now use Ki2 on the hammerhead Karoo 2 and 3 to interact with Shimano groupers. And it's a better shifting app than anything any other computer has
I hear you on the edge 830, but the longer update life is worth the extra $100 to me. I kept my edge 520 for eight years. I got a slightly used 840 solar for $395. I thought I did great because $400 was the lowest sale on the non solar up to that point. It went to $350 on Black Friday, oh well I got a neat party trick.
Garmin Edge 130. All the features 99% of us really need. Small. Super lightweight. Good battery life. Doesn’t look like a clumsy mobile phone in front of the stem, punching its way through the air.
I’ve got the 1040 solar 2nd hand but brand new for €400. It’s worth every penny. Screen is nice and big although not Iphone quality. Still a lot of money, but the 840 isn’t for sale second hand and if, it’s still expensive.
Treated myself to an Edge 530 for Christmas at a very pleasing discount, and it is still The One for the average human. Actually the Edge 130 is more than good enough (pretty sure Roglic was using one at the Vuelta) but it's nice to have proper maps.
I have the Garmin 830, and it's pretty darn good on a ride. It can be a little bit fussy in connectivity terms, but that's not even close to being a deal breaker.
I got a 1040 for Christmas. Its GREAT. I just haven't been able to use it yet because of illness and/or road conditions. And the 1040 screen real-estate is so much better than the 840.
I picked up a 1030 Plus from a coworker for a killer deal, and honestly, for my needs, I couldn't see any need for a higher-end unit. However, I mostly use it for navigation while bikepacking, so it's not exactly the primary use case for a bike computer.
I have the Edge 830 - I hate the low-contrast screen. As long as the sun stands low, e.g. in the mornings, it is often impossible to read. The old UI is also not intuitive.
I am amazed that people would need a GPS for biking around their region. I use my phone for finding roads but use my IGPS for data such as speed and other data.
I have the Edge 540 Solar (gift upgrade from 530). In UK & in this weather getting about 1 min per hour extra. Also keep in daylight when not in use... As a supermarket says, every little helps ;-) Not linked in any way but try a ZTTO stem mount (from fleabay & similar). More bar space & fully central for camera/light underneath .IRO a tenner.
Sigma Rox is the best if battery life and connectivity is improved. That's why I bought the Bolt v2 last year. Wahoo is not good for navigation in woods while mountainbiking.
I actually went with Coros Dura when I read everything about the latest updates and oh boy is it good. I've been using it for a month already and I'm currently on 75% of charge. The latest update brought new bright and easy charts, and also you now don't have to use a split screen for a better map view. Strava live segments was an absolute must have on the device! During last spinneys build up ride I've used it with a provided map, and could see all the turns beforehand and also plan my power for upcoming climbs. Definitely a must buy for it's price in the current state.
Thanks, I appreciate personal experiences like that, reviewers look a lot at the hardware but not so much at the software. I have another question if you don't mind. How easy is it to add or remove a waypoint while you are on the road? I saw someone scroll around the map on a Coros Dura, and it was quite laggy and did not show much info on that map. Can you use the Coros app on your phone for an edit like that?
@leonox7313 to be honest I plan my trip beforehand and if I really need to change smth id rather pull out my phone and do it on it. Tbh I never tried doing this on Dura itself cause as you said it's way to slow.
Waiting for the next Garmin 840 sale to upgrade. My old unit (a Wahoo Bolt) is finally at the point where the battery won't last more than a few hours.
Interesting video but I didn’t see anything making me want to switch from my Garmin 810. Battery life still good after12 years of daily use. Had to repair the power button last week which was an easy 15 minutes DIY job.
Boot time isn't a test of system performance, different software will be written different and do differernt things during startup, and most people don't care about how long it takes to start up ... a test of performance would be screen swippes , route planning e.t.c
And people should know by now processor speed is no indicator of compute power, as all architectures perform differently for any given clock speed. Think petrol & diesel engines at same RPM. Engine CC,whether turbo charged etc. etc. give different power & torque at same RPM. Same with processor power.
I had the 530, then switched to the 830 for the touchscreen functionality in order to quickly switch screens while riding, then when up to the 1040 for the larger screen as the small screen is hard to read while riding.
i work in the bike industry and garmin is the hardest company to deal with in the world, not to mention the warranty processes are a nightmare. Wahoo on the other hand is probably the best company in the world to deal with, plus better pricing and they last longer. i personally use the bolt V2
I have a 530 and a 540 but lately I've been using the 530 because it's just a lot less annoying. The 540 for example will sometimes give you warnings about a road hazard but it's impossible to read it while you're riding to see what the hazard actually is. It also does strange things when you charge it up. The features on the 540 that make it more advanced are things that I personally don't use.
@@bikeradarWell, I already have one, so... Must say, as an amateur roadie, what was fine for me, was pretty much sigma sts series (2016). If it only had ANT+ support back then, so the data could be gathered more easily - that would be a winner for me. I would not seek for change. It had all the speeds, cadence, heart rate etc. Highest model even had power readout (16.23 not sure). If you add a ghost chase ride, CR2032 battery that last at least a year, very compact size - what one needs more? I needed it to have a tiny bit of more memory to store at least few rides back and some way to export data to the CellPhone app or PC. My pick in 2021 was Bryton Rider420 (2nd hand). Useful? Yes! Any drawback? Of course! What kills me is 4-button navigation. I wonder if anyone at R&D out there tried to answer themselves a question why not stop the bloody timer with one button, rather make it a "joy ride" across menus? Don't want to sound like a griefter, but latest "innovations" beside costing a little fortune and weighing like a decent brick are more like a cell phone that just can't make calls. Just wait and see when they all shares the fate of pocket MP3 players.
If you are looking for a "Garmin" on a budget, you can't go far wrong with the Igpsport igs630 s*. Apart from lacking a touch screen, function/feature wise it falls about level with the Garmin xx30 series, including an on route only Climb-pro clone called i-climb and amazing battery life, you get one for £200-ish domestically or £130 from China. If it wasn't for my thoughtful nephew who was working his notice at CEX when a mint in box 1040 came in (I'll let you fill in the blanks) I would probably still be using mine until it died or something significantly better came along. *The Igpsport igs630 (no S) is even cheaper and almost identical, but it lacks a route re-calculation feature, just using a directional arrow to point you back in the right direction.
What if I want one primarily for navigation and have little to no use for all the power meter, race cycling etc features? I guess the Garmin Edge Explore 2 would be the best choice?
I still don't understand why Garmin moved the start and lap buttons from the top of the units to the rear. Their older units could be mounted nice and snugly against the stem faceplate, which looked much tidier.
I got the Garmine 840. he shops I went to didn't have any in stock so I went to a shop that gave me the best deal with a 1 week wait for shipping. Many people and review assured me this was a good cycling computer. It would be my first computer putting off buying one for decades. Big problem that I never thought about. I cant read the screen! I never ride with my reading glasses. And I cant read the dam screen! No one mentioned this. Neither did you or any one else in their reviews. I can see the maps mostly but try to read the name of the road and I have to get out my glasses, I can read the hill indications but noy the gradient or the distance. RPM or speed is also a bluer. Couldn't they make a magnification cover for the unit? Well I can upload the info to my lap top after a ride, If I set it up right before or during the ride. Trying to follow set up instructions on a device I have never used before; i t is beyond frustration. So easy to use? Get some one who has never had one evaluate that, Easy to read? ask your parents what they think of the display. My disappointment level is 7 out of 10.
I love Wahoo but I am on my 3rd roam due to failures on each of them. My current roam gives bizarre speed readings on group rides, I think due to interference from other computers. Am looking to replace it with a Garmin 1050 or maybe this spring a 850 if they release one.
Strongly disagree that Edge 830 is the best computer of 2025. It's alright, but if you want a Garmin in that form factor, buy the Edge 840, which has full firmware support, many more features, way more modern HW (besides faster processor mainly multi-band and USB-C), or if money is an objective, then the Edge 530, which is even cheaper than the 830 and has all the same features apart from the touch screen. Anyway, personally I bought the Edge 1050 since I really liked it since launch after I damaged my old Edge 530 in a crash. I'm gonna repair the Edge 530 to use it in races, where I don't need much more than recording and in some occasions see current power and heart rate. I really wish Garmin released an Edge 150 - just slightly improved Edge 130 Plus with the modern standards (again mainly multi-band and USB-C) and I would get it immediately.
Literally bought one of these last week (Edge 530) and the learning curve is very steep, the OS and buttons is awkward and counterintuitive. It’s basically a POS
Just got rid of the 530 for the Explore 2. No regrets at all. Never got the hang of using buttons when trying to navigate the map but the main point is that I am in my 50s and now need reading glasses so the screen was too small. There is no way of increasing font size even if you reduce the number of fields on the screen. The Explore is much better for me.
I would love Garmin Explore as I use bike for casually wader rather than trying to get fast. But unfortunately it is lacking the support for connection to di2 or AXS to check battery level and gear status which is a deal breaker over 840.
Garmin maps includes actual street names. Wahoo does not. This was a deal breaker for me. I have owned both and I really like having the street names to navigate without running a pre-mapped route.
Think i buy the karoo 3,the new Garmin and Wahoo gps are to big on my K edge mount.I never buy a Hammerhead device.will try it and see what if it boring me a smile on my face
I own the 840 since one year and I hate it. Way to much functionality, beeps and annoying messages. Also it’s pc software is over loaded with way to much functionality that I will never ever use. Garmin equipment is developed by nerds not by people that want a comfortable bike ride on a Sunday morning.
Phone battery life is very limited. Unless your buying a new phone every year. That's why I bought a dedicated cycling computer for traveling. I used to use Ride GPS but their rout planner is almost useless. Need to make 101 edits on the simplest pint to point destination.
Phone is only good for short rides (not full day or multi day) plus it wastes your phones lifespan and likely need to bring a power bank. And navigating it for serious rides (where you dont have the time to stop and swipe) is a pain. I guessok for casual riders.
The garmin edge 530 is goated. It has everything you need and nothing you don't
Exactly!
It needs USB C
Indeed. I'm happy with it for three years now.
It doesn’t have a bell
Still upgraded from 530 to 1050 for the features (stats in navigation screen, sync with di2 buttons, horn) and the larger brighter screen as eyes are not what they used to be. Happy to carry the extra weight of 1050, for the screen size alone.
If you buy a used garmin, make sure you set your FTP when you get it! I ordered a refurbished 530 a few years ago and assumed everything had been reset. I found out the previous owner’s FTP was still programmed into it, and it was substantially higher than mine. Learned the hard way when I tried to use the power zone screen for the first time during a gravel race. I blew up at mile 25 and barely made it home 😂😂
What do you mean you assumed? Did you reset it or not. Cause I reset it the moment I got it, do you mean there is a chance the old ftp is in there?
I'll add to this also double-check the ride history is empty, I got an Edge 1000 used a few years back and didn't, the previous owner did lots of short rides and recorded ALL OF THEM, 3 years worth of 6 day a week commutes, trips to the corner shop for milk etc. Hours of my life wasted removing rides from Strava and other platforms, and I was still finding them months later. 🤦♂
@@Bikey_McBeardface Wow even a field setting for milk consumption and reminders. Would that be skimmed or full cream though...oh another field...or maybe chocolate, banana...zzzzz
If you sell your used garmin, make sure to set your FTP really high, so the next owner will feel bad about it :D
@@Dzaen2 if you reset I’m sure it’s fine. I assumed it had no FTP in by default when it came to me and that it would kind of set itself based on my power data from riding (the way it does for HR zones). FTP doesn’t seem to work like that on the 530, it’s a field you have to manually enter that is then used to set your power zones.
Go for a ride without your head unit , and you’ll remember why you like cycling !!!! I think sometimes looking at numbers and comparing rides misses the point of just getting out there . Just got for a 2 hour ride on feel and you’ll take in more of the countryside and come home happier . Try it occasionally .
But how did you know how much fun you had without 20 data fields?!?!?!?!?!
@ 😜 that’s my point. If you don’t hit a PB on Strava or your watts are low it can be depressing . But does it matter? Going out without a head unit might be a good video to do! Getting back to basics where the price of the cake and coffee are the only numbers you need to worry about on that ride . ☕️ 🍰 🚴♂️
This is a you probably, not a head unit problem.
@Gixer750pilot Fully agree! When we were kids we'd ride our bikes all day and refuel with a coke and candy bar from a gas station. Now we are so consumed with data, nutrition, etc that we lose signt of why we started riding in the first place.
I'm still using my Wahoo Elemnt Bolt v1. Last year I had to reset it to factory settings because it was too full of my data from several years of rides to work reliably, but now it's fine again. I'm an old guy who is a bicycle traveler more than anything else, and I'm waiting for the right combo of computer + routing service (I use RideWithGPS) that works with my large personal database of POIs to remind me of places where I want to stop and get photos to go with my GoPro footage.
Love that your V1 is still going strong. Must be a lot of miles to fill up a headunit! Liam
Really pleased with my Wahoo Bolt v2 so simple to use.
I bought a Garmin 520 plus a couple of years ago. Then the other day bought another 520 plus, both brand new. I know it's not the 530 but the 520 is compact and gives me a heap of info without too much over the top metrics that next generation units seem to feature! Job done! I think modern units are totally over the top unless you're a Pro with a team of behind the scenes boffins analysing every second of a ride!😁😁😁
I also have a 520 plus. The only thing it's missing really is Climbpro
I have a 520 Plus. It's brilliant. I completely agree with you.
Hammerhead Karoo is excellent - I have the Karoo 2 after having the Karoo 1 for years and traded it in to get 2 and the features it has are brilliant. Navigation is top class and it even sees hills ahead even when you have no routes programmed in
Have the 1040 (3 years now), and upgraded to the 1050 with high expectations … and was totally disappointed upon using it. Sent the 1050 back and now back with the 1040 with high praise.
The 830 in the rain as it changes screens as each rain drop hits it... that was enough for me to change to Wahoo, no regrets.
In my 10year old garmin u are able to lock the touchscreen.
A frustrating feature of most touchscreens in my experience. The 830 at least allows you to lock the screen. Liam
@@RazzFazz-Race but you can't operate when it's locked. That's why 840 is perfect since it has touch and buttons
@ Thats true but i don’t needed this on my trips. sometimes i used zoom in and zoom out.
Have the 830 & 840. Buttons on the 840 are good when raining/ in Winter with gloves but DAMN the 830 looks so sleek!! 🤩
I have a refurbished Explore 2 bought on Amazon and was not expecting too much but wanted to try an alternative to my phone. It is absolutely great for what I need, far exceeded expectations once I got my head around the menu/s. Good battery life, no issues with rain and easy transferring routes from my PC. The white version even matches my frame colour 🙂
Never a Bryton in these lists. Why? I have a Rider 750, it works, good map updates, never Bluetooth connection problems.
Exactly, even pro teams (Intermarche) use them and yet nobody talks about them. I have the 750SE. Amazing head unit. Never had an issue with it, no resets no hanging. Just works. And it has a really good battery too.
I also recommend the 410 version or the currently produced 420. For someone who doesn't need maps, only raw data, like %ftp, hr, speed, time, and gps track recording... Simple, well-functioning bike computer. And the screen is similar to the one on the Wahoo, it reflects light. On sales, very profitable.
The app sucks balls. This is coming from someone who used to be a Bryton user.
I have that Garmin 520 Plus. Eight years old now. It still does everything I need. My last long ride was 8 hours and the battery was fine with still some charge available at the end. The only thing that would move me to buy new is if my rides become longer than the battery can manage.
I’ve had Garmin Explore for approximate 4 years and I still love It. I don’t care about watts as I just ride for pleasure.
You can now use Ki2 on the hammerhead Karoo 2 and 3 to interact with Shimano groupers. And it's a better shifting app than anything any other computer has
Quite right. I just wish Shimano would play nicely.
I hear you on the edge 830, but the longer update life is worth the extra $100 to me. I kept my edge 520 for eight years. I got a slightly used 840 solar for $395. I thought I did great because $400 was the lowest sale on the non solar up to that point. It went to $350 on Black Friday, oh well I got a neat party trick.
Excellent video. 530 does the job just fine, 830 is the best, 840 is the highest I would go, but 830 is the sweetspot.
I'm a simple man. Garmin Edge 130 does everything I need it to do.
Garmin Edge 130.
All the features 99% of us really need.
Small. Super lightweight. Good battery life.
Doesn’t look like a clumsy mobile phone in front of the stem, punching its way through the air.
I’ve got the 1040 solar 2nd hand but brand new for €400. It’s worth every penny. Screen is nice and big although not Iphone quality. Still a lot of money, but the 840 isn’t for sale second hand and if, it’s still expensive.
I have had the Garmin Edge 810 (awesome), Garmin Edge 820 (not so awesome) and currently have the Garmin Edge 830 (awesome).
Treated myself to an Edge 530 for Christmas at a very pleasing discount, and it is still The One for the average human. Actually the Edge 130 is more than good enough (pretty sure Roglic was using one at the Vuelta) but it's nice to have proper maps.
love my Edge 830 it does what it says on the tin 🙂
I have the Garmin 830, and it's pretty darn good on a ride. It can be a little bit fussy in connectivity terms, but that's not even close to being a deal breaker.
I got a 1040 for Christmas. Its GREAT. I just haven't been able to use it yet because of illness and/or road conditions.
And the 1040 screen real-estate is so much better than the 840.
Bought a certified reform edge 530 a few years back for $170. I would buy another at that price if I needed to replace my current one.
I picked up a 1030 Plus from a coworker for a killer deal, and honestly, for my needs, I couldn't see any need for a higher-end unit. However, I mostly use it for navigation while bikepacking, so it's not exactly the primary use case for a bike computer.
I have the Edge 830 - I hate the low-contrast screen. As long as the sun stands low, e.g. in the mornings, it is often impossible to read. The old UI is also not intuitive.
I am amazed that people would need a GPS for biking around their region. I use my phone for finding roads but use my IGPS for data such as speed and other data.
I have the Edge 540 Solar (gift upgrade from 530). In UK & in this weather getting about 1 min per hour extra. Also keep in daylight when not in use... As a supermarket says, every little helps ;-)
Not linked in any way but try a ZTTO stem mount (from fleabay & similar). More bar space & fully central for camera/light underneath .IRO a tenner.
Sigma Rox is the best if battery life and connectivity is improved. That's why I bought the Bolt v2 last year. Wahoo is not good for navigation in woods while mountainbiking.
I actually went with Coros Dura when I read everything about the latest updates and oh boy is it good. I've been using it for a month already and I'm currently on 75% of charge. The latest update brought new bright and easy charts, and also you now don't have to use a split screen for a better map view. Strava live segments was an absolute must have on the device! During last spinneys build up ride I've used it with a provided map, and could see all the turns beforehand and also plan my power for upcoming climbs. Definitely a must buy for it's price in the current state.
Thanks, I appreciate personal experiences like that, reviewers look a lot at the hardware but not so much at the software. I have another question if you don't mind. How easy is it to add or remove a waypoint while you are on the road? I saw someone scroll around the map on a Coros Dura, and it was quite laggy and did not show much info on that map. Can you use the Coros app on your phone for an edit like that?
@leonox7313 to be honest I plan my trip beforehand and if I really need to change smth id rather pull out my phone and do it on it. Tbh I never tried doing this on Dura itself cause as you said it's way to slow.
@@ProstoChester Okay, thanks
Waiting for the next Garmin 840 sale to upgrade. My old unit (a Wahoo Bolt) is finally at the point where the battery won't last more than a few hours.
The problem with old bike computers is their battery is also old now and can't easily be replaced...
sent from my edge 530
Interesting video but I didn’t see anything making me want to switch from my Garmin 810. Battery life still good after12 years of daily use. Had to repair the power button last week which was an easy 15 minutes DIY job.
Still using my 810. It's a workhorse.
I use a Garmin 810. It’s fine although it takes a while to connect to GPS sometimes. I don’t look at the display while riding unless I’ve got lost!
Don't think I've ever seen anyone use half the features like that group ride tracking thing. 530 all the way.
Im still rocking a Garmin 810. Its got everything I need in a cycle computer. Don't see any point binning it off for extra features I won't ever use.
Boot time isn't a test of system performance, different software will be written different and do differernt things during startup, and most people don't care about how long it takes to start up ... a test of performance would be screen swippes , route planning e.t.c
And people should know by now processor speed is no indicator of compute power, as all architectures perform differently for any given clock speed.
Think petrol & diesel engines at same RPM. Engine CC,whether turbo charged etc. etc. give different power & torque at same RPM. Same with processor power.
I had the 530, then switched to the 830 for the touchscreen functionality in order to quickly switch screens while riding, then when up to the 1040 for the larger screen as the small screen is hard to read while riding.
I have the Garmin 530, had the original Wahoo Bolt before that, never felt any reason to upgrade this head unit……does everything well…..
i work in the bike industry and garmin is the hardest company to deal with in the world, not to mention the warranty processes are a nightmare. Wahoo on the other hand is probably the best company in the world to deal with, plus better pricing and they last longer. i personally use the bolt V2
Another point for the Bolt V2. What would you want to see from a Bolt V3?
lol just got the 530 yesterday, great device
I like fancy new bike stuff, but I can't find a reason to replace my 530
I buy new stuff all the time yet have no desire to change my 530. Says it all really
I have a 530 and a 540 but lately I've been using the 530 because it's just a lot less annoying. The 540 for example will sometimes give you warnings about a road hazard but it's impossible to read it while you're riding to see what the hazard actually is. It also does strange things when you charge it up. The features on the 540 that make it more advanced are things that I personally don't use.
I upgraded from a 1030 to 1040. The touchscreen on the 40 is better. The 30 goes nuts in the rain or from sweat.
No mention of the smart radar compatibility, the Brytons, the Coospo etc.
Still really like my Bolt V2 😊 a slightly larger edge to edge screen would be awesome.. Pete 🚴🏻👍
Glad to have another vote for that edge to edge display Pete!
Bolt vs Roam-> depends if you need the map or not. If you routing with the device: buy the Roam.
Good advice. Maybe a Bolt V3 could improve mapping?
Magene C506 is the best bang for buck brand new, even comparing with used units of Garmins or Wahoo.
Really not sure why we haven't reviewed this yet. I'll put it to the tech team. Liam
Sigma Rox or others alike from IGSPORT, Bryton or others alike. I would not bother at all anything above $150.
Should we make a video on sub-$100 cycling computers?
@@bikeradarWell, I already have one, so...
Must say, as an amateur roadie, what was fine for me, was pretty much sigma sts series (2016). If it only had ANT+ support back then, so the data could be gathered more easily - that would be a winner for me. I would not seek for change. It had all the speeds, cadence, heart rate etc. Highest model even had power readout (16.23 not sure). If you add a ghost chase ride, CR2032 battery that last at least a year, very compact size - what one needs more?
I needed it to have a tiny bit of more memory to store at least few rides back and some way to export data to the CellPhone app or PC.
My pick in 2021 was Bryton Rider420 (2nd hand). Useful? Yes! Any drawback? Of course! What kills me is 4-button navigation. I wonder if anyone at R&D out there tried to answer themselves a question why not stop the bloody timer with one button, rather make it a "joy ride" across menus?
Don't want to sound like a griefter, but latest "innovations" beside costing a little fortune and weighing like a decent brick are more like a cell phone that just can't make calls.
Just wait and see when they all shares the fate of pocket MP3 players.
If you are looking for a "Garmin" on a budget, you can't go far wrong with the Igpsport igs630 s*. Apart from lacking a touch screen, function/feature wise it falls about level with the Garmin xx30 series, including an on route only Climb-pro clone called i-climb and amazing battery life, you get one for £200-ish domestically or £130 from China. If it wasn't for my thoughtful nephew who was working his notice at CEX when a mint in box 1040 came in (I'll let you fill in the blanks) I would probably still be using mine until it died or something significantly better came along.
*The Igpsport igs630 (no S) is even cheaper and almost identical, but it lacks a route re-calculation feature, just using a directional arrow to point you back in the right direction.
Where'd you get that gold Garmin mount from?
I prefer the 540 because i haven't got on the touch screen bandwagon.
Prime branded, so from defunct CRC/Wiggle now Evans.
Just spray a standard black computer mount gold, with the appropriate undercoat! Job done imo!😁
K-edge had a limited run over Xmas. I got the last gold version. Email them to see if they are going to do any more.
What if I want one primarily for navigation and have little to no use for all the power meter, race cycling etc features? I guess the Garmin Edge Explore 2 would be the best choice?
Hammerhead Karoo has excellent navigation
Yea that Edge Explore 2 is a great deal if navigation is your primary feature
The best bike computer out there is the Bryton Rider S800E...by a mile.
I still don't understand why Garmin moved the start and lap buttons from the top of the units to the rear. Their older units could be mounted nice and snugly against the stem faceplate, which looked much tidier.
I got the Garmine 840. he shops I went to didn't have any in stock so I went to a shop that gave me the best deal with a 1 week wait for shipping. Many people and review assured me this was a good cycling computer. It would be my first computer putting off buying one for decades. Big problem that I never thought about. I cant read the screen! I never ride with my reading glasses. And I cant read the dam screen! No one mentioned this. Neither did you or any one else in their reviews. I can see the maps mostly but try to read the name of the road and I have to get out my glasses, I can read the hill indications but noy the gradient or the distance. RPM or speed is also a bluer. Couldn't they make a magnification cover for the unit? Well I can upload the info to my lap top after a ride, If I set it up right before or during the ride. Trying to follow set up instructions on a device I have never used before; i t is beyond frustration. So easy to use? Get some one who has never had one evaluate that, Easy to read? ask your parents what they think of the display. My disappointment level is 7 out of 10.
Some sport sunglasses like Tofiso are available as bifocals.
@@barrybkopicz2845 Thanks for the thoughts..
Hola,,wahoo bolt 2 o garmin 540?cuál es más efectivo y mejor?saludos
Garmin xTrex 30x using the Bicycling profile (w/HR displayed) all the way.
My 530 has stopped linking to devices via bluetooth (bluetooth symbol still shows) if anyone has a tip to nudge it back to connecting?
Hasta que la batería diga "Estoy cansado jefe"
I believe 1040 may be a better option than 1050 and 840- big screen, new updates and lasts forever on battery- even on non-solar version.
1040 is the best. Music screen. Bone conducting headphones and Garmin radar is the set up
Yea if you have a 1040 then there is zero reason to get the 1050. Love the page setup! Liam
You've missed to review the IGP Sport bike computers
I love Wahoo but I am on my 3rd roam due to failures on each of them. My current roam gives bizarre speed readings on group rides, I think due to interference from other computers.
Am looking to replace it with a Garmin 1050 or maybe this spring a 850 if they release one.
I want the bolt to have a slightly bigger screen and way bigger battery. Keep the non touch
Garmin 130 all the way!
It’s amazing value
Garmin Edge 500 still going strong
Love this. But how have you nursed it through this many years?
Strongly disagree that Edge 830 is the best computer of 2025. It's alright, but if you want a Garmin in that form factor, buy the Edge 840, which has full firmware support, many more features, way more modern HW (besides faster processor mainly multi-band and USB-C), or if money is an objective, then the Edge 530, which is even cheaper than the 830 and has all the same features apart from the touch screen.
Anyway, personally I bought the Edge 1050 since I really liked it since launch after I damaged my old Edge 530 in a crash. I'm gonna repair the Edge 530 to use it in races, where I don't need much more than recording and in some occasions see current power and heart rate. I really wish Garmin released an Edge 150 - just slightly improved Edge 130 Plus with the modern standards (again mainly multi-band and USB-C) and I would get it immediately.
Literally bought one of these last week (Edge 530) and the learning curve is very steep, the OS and buttons is awkward and counterintuitive. It’s basically a POS
Pfft. I thought you said old. My Edge 800 still works fine.
The 830 screen is really terrible in the wet. It behaves like it’s haunted.
Just got rid of the 530 for the Explore 2. No regrets at all. Never got the hang of using buttons when trying to navigate the map but the main point is that I am in my 50s and now need reading glasses so the screen was too small. There is no way of increasing font size even if you reduce the number of fields on the screen. The Explore is much better for me.
I would love Garmin Explore as I use bike for casually wader rather than trying to get fast. But unfortunately it is lacking the support for connection to di2 or AXS to check battery level and gear status which is a deal breaker over 840.
Garmin maps includes actual street names. Wahoo does not. This was a deal breaker for me. I have owned both and I really like having the street names to navigate without running a pre-mapped route.
iGPSPORT ?
Still on my Garmin Edge 500. No Bluetooth 😂
Still on my 530...no reason to change. OR want to
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Think i buy the karoo 3,the new Garmin and Wahoo gps are to big on my K edge mount.I never buy a Hammerhead device.will try it and see what if it boring me a smile on my face
Explorer 2 FTW
The best garmin bike computer is a wahoo element bolt v2.
Nothing worse than saying dollars when you're english
rly don’t miss using garmin devices
I use a Garmin eTrex.... It only records where you have been... Nothing more.
The best cycling computer is your smartphone. Garmin's UI and mapping is slow and like something from the 00s. Save weight and money.
Funnily enough we've done a video on that very subject
Apple Ultra Watch 2 on a mount anyone?
I own the 840 since one year and I hate it. Way to much functionality, beeps and annoying messages. Also it’s pc software is over loaded with way to much functionality that I will never ever use.
Garmin equipment is developed by nerds not by people that want a comfortable bike ride on a Sunday morning.
You can turn all of the beeps and notifications off. I have as, like you, they drive me crazy. Liam
The best Bike Computer in 2025 is your phone with a Cycling App. I use Strava. Bike Computers are a complete waste of time and money.
Phone battery life is very limited. Unless your buying a new phone every year. That's why I bought a dedicated cycling computer for traveling. I used to use Ride GPS but their rout planner is almost useless. Need to make 101 edits on the simplest pint to point destination.
Phone is only good for short rides (not full day or multi day) plus it wastes your phones lifespan and likely need to bring a power bank. And navigating it for serious rides (where you dont have the time to stop and swipe) is a pain.
I guessok for casual riders.
@@drewcama2488 then you're using the wrong phone and wrong software
@@Slogfester OK thanks I'll go buy a new phone.