Hey I want to thank you for all the awesome content. Your 993 videos inspired me to fulfill my dream so a couple months ago I picked up a 993 C2S. Arena red over cashmere with sport seats, lsd, and pss10s. Its also a higher mileage (155k!) driver condition car and I love it. I'm gonna do what you're supposed to do with these cars: maintain them well, restore back to their former glory, and drive the hell out of them!
I am so honored - and happy - that my vids helped you accomplish this goal. Congrats on grabbing yourself one of these wonderful machines. Enjoy it in good health. #DriveEm
FYI I just purchased a 1998 Carrera S in part because of your channel. I also have a 1989 930 Turbo. If you’re really thinking of selling it, then a a Carrera S or 4S would be the next step. I wouldn’t recommend a 993 Turbo. It’s a totally different driving experience. On the other hand your car is mainly sorted and only has cosmetic issues which are easy to fix. Also, polar silver is a beautiful color and appeals to the masses. You can keep an eye open for any opportunity to get a different 993 and then sell yours (which should be a quick sale given the condition and history) Good Luck !!
@davidmorales2900 Interested in hearing you elaborate more on the 993 non-turbo vs 993 Turbo driving experience. I’m in the market for a 993 and love the Turbo look, but interested in the perspective of someone who has driven both and can speak to meaningful differences/preferences…thanks in advance!
I found myself in the same situation last year. Currently have a1995 C4, Guards Red/Black with 45,000 miles that I love. I lowered it and replaced the disco radio with a Continental that looks period specific. I am attracted to the C2S with the WB and split grill. Found one, drove it and just realized that I have sorted mine out, I know it well after 4 years of ownership and love everything about it. I have a 2018 GT3 Touring which is an incredible car, but still come up with any excuse I can to drive the 993. You will come to the right conclusion, but to me a 993 is timeless.
Great video, I love many of the same things about my 993 C4S. You may have convinced me to finally get the PSS10s as well. In medicine and surgery, there is a well known phrase that comes up from time to time. Perfect is the enemy of good. That is, sometimes you have already achieved a great outcome, but striving for perfection can sometimes undo that and actually make the final outcome worse. Obviously, this isn’t life or death type stuff, but if you trade “up” for a different 993, you may find yourself knee deep with other gremlins and costly repairs over the years. I’m sure it will have little quirks as well. My PPI estimated a 2k fix.. 8.5k later and 8 weeks later, it was finally ready to go. A “special” spec is going to run you quite a bit as well. But either way, if it really bugs you deep down that your 993 isn’t quite as special as it could be, I’d say go for it. You only live once!
All great points. I think I have $12,000+ into my car above what I paid for the work I’ve had done to it. Just the nature of the beast and doubtless I would go down the same path with a new-to-me car. Thanks for watching and for the advice. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
In the same situation, bought a base 2004 911 Cabriolet then found out I want a C4S. Car looks good enough to keep and gets compliments but have a little cosmetic wear that you are not scared to enjoy it. 114,000 miles, have the C4S bug but thinking about supercharging it along with other upgrades.
Polar Silver is absolutely great color. Suits the car perfectly. Black, silver, white, red and all Porsche blues are quite safe bets. The only color I don't really care for 993 is the purple.
I’d say sell and buy one you love Why not , life’s for living and I’ve just recovered from Covid so an attitude change to do what you want Nice video this 🏴🎁🎄⛄️ Merry Christmas
Great Video! I'm on Porsche #29 first car was a 914 in 1980. Current one I purchased in 2000 is a 97 993 Cab Artic Silver. You nailed all the reasons I love my car. Only other I can think of is its reliable!
I would think so long as you have a solid engine then it's worth doing all the cosmetic upgrades to bring it up to your personal taste even if that means a respray to a colour of your choice. That way you're holding on to car that you trust its reliability rather than taking a gamble with another used one that may end up giving you mechanical issues. Not unless you favour a lower mileage one hence your thinking towards selling.
I’m going to be brutally frank with you here, so sincere apologies in advance for my very candid but extremely brutal truth. -First thing that came to me is how many miles have you driven the car? - why did you purchase the car and then quickly purchase the other 2 coming from a BMW? The reasoning you gave come to me as quite fickle and not of a true petrol head and tbh quite disappointed considering what this channel is about! I’ve noticed over the year a lot more of complaints on issues around the car, not sure if it’s to have content on TH-cam or genuinely someone who’s not dialled in with cars. If you are more concerned about a special 993, please sell the car to a real petrolhead, you don’t deserve that car trust me on this. For you to question a special 993 is quite fickle and as said quite disappointed! To put in perspectives only 68k 993’s were built worldwide, which included race oriented specials like the unicorn 993GT2, the TurboS then there was the RS or the the RS club sport and then the RSR, followed by the Vesuvio model and the S’s, cabrio and Targa. They are all special and outside of the turbos engines are “for the most part similar”. So to say one 993 is more deserving is missing the point. Which leads back to my first question how many miles have you done? Or are you in the camp of investor/speculator, which still means you still don’t deserve that car and a true petrolhead will more than appreciate something rather special you fail to see. Now to help you, change the wheels, the exhaust, go to town on the interior starting with the wheels/ seats/ carpets/ pedals/ attack the sunroof/ handbrake/ gearknob, when you are done go to work on the suspension( some coil over), attack the exhaust system, catbypass, headers, hot cams, then get some ITB’s on that bad boy, full exhaust upgrade including airbox, then get the RS spot line wheels(if you are feeling lucky and have deep pockets), next get some lightweight flywheel, get rs engine mounts and gear box mounts, while at it upgrade to short shift gear knob, on the dash get som me nice bezels for the facia, get strut brace upfront as well, next upgrade your headlights, lastly hit the seats and get some recaro seats. If you are still not satisfied, strip it down and stiffen the shell add roll cages and change the colours, white/ Speed yellow, Blue etc etc . Voila you this have your special 993 to make all in earth green with envy, the very best tribute with an engine note even GOD will be jealous of you for. Problem solved...
Yemi So, first of all, if you’ve been paying attention to the channel as you have claimed to then you would know that I have shared many times that I am a driver and have put around 10,000+ miles on the car since I bought it a year a half ago. So, NOT a speculator but a true enthusiast. Secondly, no need to question my commitment to these (or any other) cars. I bought 3 different 911’s because I value variety in my driving and ownership experiences. This you may call “fickle” but it is what I call spending my money how I wish, enjoying owning different variants of the 911. Thirdly, you’re right that I have been transparent about repairs and how they have frustrated me. Who enjoys having to spend more and more money on maintenance items? The reason I am putting this content out there is it’s good for “true petrol heads” who want into one of these cars knows what they’re getting if they do buy one. I have also shared each time that it’s totally worth it due to how fantastic these cars are. And I have gotten tons of “thank you’s” online and offline for being transparent about the repair end of owning these cars. Now, here’s where I will be brutally honest with you: it’s absolutely offensive to me that you would say I (or anyone for that matter) don’t “deserve” a car. So arrogant. Anyone who can buy one deserves it. One positive I’ll give you here is that you do have some good insight into additional mods I can do to the car to make it more interesting. So thanks for that. And that’s the direction I’m leaning after getting a lot of good advice as a result of this vid. Based on your disappointment, it seems to me the direction of the channel probably isn’t right for you so perhaps you don’t want to stick around.
Yemi - Sounds like you really know your way around modifications, especially going to town on the carpet and bezels. Obviously you included some humor, the low-brow type that even I could catch.own didn't-turbulence" that even differential equations can't resolve, which leaves trial & error as the only plausible solution.long-lasting engine that's always gonna be rebuildable. Isn't it true that the wrong exhaust can burn the valves, for instance? There's a lot of thought that goes into balancing the power and torque specifications for any road car, rennsport or not. By the time you rebuild a base model into a road monster, you'd probably be better-off financially and safety-wise with a Turbo, unless of course, you have the requisite patience and confidence. Other opinions may differ.
@@Rennthusiast fair comment, as I did mention, I will be brutal in my comment all done with respect on an OPEN platform, as I give it I take it equally. However if deemed offensive being candid, apologies. Good day.
@@neilanderson891 True and I agree, the whole point of my response - no pun intended - was, (guess it’s based on perspectives) all 993’s are special, the notion of considering parting with one because it’s not special enough seems lost on me. But then again that’s just my weird perspective I guess and as insinuated, you pays your money and you choose your..... get my drift!
Yemi I welcome candid feedback and honest opinions. As you mentioned, I can’t be on TH-cam and not expect that and I also believe it’s important to hear candid insight for the sake of growth and improvement. The thing about your comment is that you included some uninformed judgment into it about my use of this 993 and also why I chose to buy 3 of these cars. On a more personal note, I also have deep belief that we all get what we deserve (and work for) and deserve what we get so the idea that I (or anyone else) doesn’t deserve something didn’t sit well with me. Regardless, thanks for your follow up and thanks again for the mod ideas.
I hate the lowered look. Hate the titled gauges. De gustibus non est disputandum. Agree that the newer wheels are an improvement over the older ones, but for me, that car is screaming for some Fuchs style wheels. Love the car; I want one.
Hello, thank you for this video (I am a little late to the party), Currently I am looking for a "driver" for sure. In the garage waiting for spring is my 87' 928 S4. It is in great shape and I have it just about sorted. However, since I was 14 I have always dreamed of a 911 style Porsche. Sadly, as you know, they have really jumped in price and I am afraid if I do not act in the next year or two, all of them will be out of range for me. Thanks again, you have helped me start my search for my Dream car (I hope the 928 will understand!)
I wish I could afford to, if only, I think it's very special even with 100k mi on the clock. I love my 07 Cayman and only dream of 911's but of all Porsches the 993s are my absolute favorites.
I bought a 1995 993 in 2014 with 42K miles needed Service and minor exterior work, You know it will cost you to get it right but worth it, I have no plans to sell it it's a Keeper. And it's polar Silver and that's a Great Color .
Yes on the smell, compactness of the car and gauges (of course we turn them to best see what we need to see). I would not sell your 993 because of ‘normal’ appearance. I certainly agree that examples that appear close to stock don’t shout “I’m unique”. Within the Porsche DNA there are any number of appearance mods you might consider. You could do side script decals in an accent color (I have gold ‘Carrera’ script to match the Porsche logo and wheel hoops - against a forest green metallic body color). Believe it or not, an after market steering wheel makes quite a statement, as well as a different feel (I have an OMP superleggera wheel). I know you don’t care for rear wings, but I also have an RS America whale tail on mine - it’s not only distinctive on a 964, but also, it harkens back to the G body era without being a contrived back date. Most importantly, you know your car - it’s condition, strengths and weaknesses. Even with extensive maintenance receipts, you would be starting all over again in caring for a car that’s new to you.
hahaha! I hear that brother. Years ago, i owned a little civic CX (bottom of the barrel car) and I always thought about the Si version. Since that time, I have only purchased the top of the line (within reason of course). Have a couple of M3's. Never think of about upgrading.
Nice review. The gauges are rotated and not tilted. Tilting would mean the gauges are rotated along the plane axis of the gauges where as rotation would be rotating along an axis that is perpendicular to the face of the gauges. What I love about mine air cooled 911 are the round analog gauges, the size, light weight, the vault like sound of the doors when you shut them and the distinct click when you pull the door latch mechanism. You want a special car - buy a 1993 or 1994 RS America! Guaranteed you won't come across another one anytime soon 👍👍.
If that’s all that bothers you, why not get it repainted?!?! Solves your cosmetic issues. Get PPF on it and then forget about stone chips. Problem solved! No?
If have the finances to go for a 964 or 993 RS then I might would sell the 993 but I believe other than those two cars, you have the pick of the bunch! The turbo is beautiful but isn’t as pure and also is heavier. The polar silver is cool but a blue or Green would be better IMO! I have a 17 Carrera with the 7spd and I absolutely love it. No where near as analog but great as a daily and for trips with its comfort and technology. Also it rips and with a tune would be ridiculous
Man I want one after buying a 997tts. I agree that the spec on your 993 is not great though. But still a dam 993!! I need to build another garage before I get anymore cars. So not happening anytime soon for me, I’ll continue to live vicariously
As a 993 owner I can only agree with all 10 of your points. Luckily I already have the special 993 you are possibly looking for as mine is a 993 turbo with a Ruf engine and suspension package. The garage where it is serviced love seeing it with road dirt on it as so many of them aren't used other than driving to their annual service. Of all you comments the small size of the car is the one that resonates most. Its about the size of a Cayman but has 490bhp.
The 02 996 wheels are not a reason to love your 993...it’s a reason to love the 996, as it wasn’t made for the 993. Lol. I would sell the base Carrera 993 and get a C4S 993 with the wide body which I think looks the best on the 993 shape. I think it’s cool how you tilted your gauges btw.
I am very confused with your usage of vertical and horizontal dash. I feel the classic older dash is very horizontal as opposed to vertical. You should keep that 993 example for the road trips and the spirited driving experience without worrying about chips on the paint. Buy another 993 with the more special specs you are looking for and savor it at home and some casual driving (cars and coffee) to keep it fresh and valuable. Where are those twisted roads I see on the video with the autumn colors? They look like nice driving roads.
Enjoyed the video...I have an arena red 1997 993 and so love it. I would say keep your 993. I personally think it's gorgeous. I know you've spent quite a bit of money on it so I would just enjoy it! But, ultimately it's got to be whatever makes your heart thump. If you find another one that you like I would think you could sell yours quickly with no issue. Anyway....thanks again!
I had a shot at an aventurine green one a few months back but the seller elected to sell it to an old friend instead of me. I totally get it but was disappointing nonetheless.
Love my TIP is all you need. I kept up w a gt3 in the twisty only blasts away in the straight away. I can’t ask more from a Tiprontic. Sometime I wanna chill millennial thing..
Can´t get into the gauge mod. When you´re on it you can tell by the sound, feel and circumstance when it´s time to shift. You´d only be looking at gauges on a straightaway with no danger involved. As to the speedo, you only look at that if you´re worried about the limit near speed traps. Any other time, you know when you´re speeding. 😃
I own a 96 Carrera 4S loved it it was special it was white it was in excellent condition but I am too tall to be driving such a small car and I wasn't really comfortable and it from the day I bought it I wanted it it was my dream car and I just really really had to sell it because I'm 65 and I had to I'm Too Tall and it's not very comfortable
Hi I agree with you. I would look for another 993. Why don't you look for a 993 2s or 4s or a turbo? I have owned a 4s and and a turbo. My advice: go for 2s or 4s. The sound is much nicer than with a turbo and you already have a fast turbo.
No issue with you selling to get a different color or maybe one with varioram. Just keep it a driver. I would not sell and get something so special that you won’t drive it as much. I prefer silver as maintenance is low. I personally want one in speed yellow, maybe some day.
Keep it.....Classic cars are exciting because of their originality. There is nothing ever wrong with Polar silver or traditional black leather. You have a daily driver that is pure Porsche. This alone is reason to keep it forever.
Hi! My advice is keep it and continue upgrading it to the level it becomes truly special for you. Colorwise - just get it wrapped, it’s fully reversible and sky is a limit. I love mine 993 in aventurine green with black interior and all this together with upgrades makes it special enough. I’ve got daily 996 C4S as well and I’m thinking of wrapping it. Aventurine green - obviously 😏
Man, you have a KILLER color. I had a shot at an aventurine green 95 coupe but the seller elected to sell it to his friend instead of me which I totally get. Thanks for watching.
One of my good friends bought a 97 C2S from Brumos - Black with Black leather 6 spd, motor sound, turbo twist wheels, whale tail.- he sold it with 18k miles for about 4 k less than he paid off the showroom floor - IMHOthe 993 is the best of them, I drove a 86 for a year or so and the transmissions and clutch difference in the 86 to the 97 is light years apart.
There is a reason Patrick Long has a Polar Silver C2 just like your 993. Unless you’re spending $400k on a real 993 RS, there is no purer driver’s car than a NB C2. Also, if it’s been too long since I’ve driven my 993, I’ll run out to the garage just for a few sniffs of that aircooled scent 😂 Love it!
I have a 1995 993 C2 Manual, mine is black over black, so it's a bit like the Batmobile! I fitted the Golden Rod and the RS Short Throw, huge improvement over standard gear linkages. I know what you mean about being a few on the road and not that special. I fitted the 993 RS touring wing, it completely changed the look of the C2 (turbo wing is too big on narrow body). I'm in Sydney where a 993 Turbo is more than double the price of a Carrera and a 993RS is about four times. I've driven both and yes they are better but not by that margin. I also have a MGA, MGB GT V8 and a 240Z and am thinking about a 997 GT3 of Turbo, first world problems lol.
A little late to the party but just wanted to say thanks for the video. Great so see some Porsche content, I've been missing car shows. Stuck in Canada and the last time I made it down south was for Darin Fister's spritztour show. The community is the best part of these cars, and I've made some fantastic friends through the 911/993 community. You should check out a product called the Pad Keeper for your engine bay sound pad BTW, they're a nice addition.
Your too focused step back.take a vacation.comeback fresh.your garage is redundant.2 911 cars.I choose your 86 instead.if you can afford 2.....than you can sell them for your dream car.test drive a 930 or 935.I'll buy your 86
I went from a high mileage midnight blue 95 C2 with a nice but tired set of PSS9 to a low mileage arena red 96 C4S with a brand new set of KWs and a nice new set of BBS LMs. Very happy with the C4S, a spec I think I can enjoy for years to come.
I agree with you! I hate how today's cars center consoles keep growing in size. They are intrusive and take so much space from the cabin. For me they make a car feel claustrophobic. Love my 993 flat dash too.
Have you looked at the big mess the designs at GM did on the C8 Corvette? There is a long center strip that divides the driver & passenger with all the tiny buttons for the HVAC system!!
My step into the Porsche world was a pure red Cayenne titanium S. A 16 year old girl ran into me totaling my car. The insurance fought me on its value. I loved that car. I now have a pure white Cayenne S. If it's a driver and it's to enjoy on the road it's been my experience to not get a special one. As you said you enjoy it because you can. Loved the video.
I would keep it, you are so lucky owning an air cooled Porsche yet alone two, even if one is a base model. I would love to get into air cooled Porsches but the prices are simply out of my reach over here in the UK so I settle for my Boxster. Don’t get me wrong I love it but I would love to be in your shoes to get to own and drive an air cooled 911. Great channel, hope you do keep it 👍🏻😊
That's a really cool video, and I fully agree with all your ups and the one down that you mention at the end of the video. I would definitely recommend you to sell it and choose a 993 Carrera 4 which has a bit more prestige. To have a somewhat special model, you could choose a phase 1 that was made in 1994/1995 and develops 272hp has opposed to the 285hp on the later models. However, I am not sure if they are available in your area. Good luck and hopefully you find the right one for you ;)
I own a 2007 BMW coupe which was silver on black when I purchased it. I changed the interior to red, upgraded the sound system and added some sexier wheels. Now it feels special.
I had more or less the same with an outlawed 964C4. Manual, sport seats, no sunroof, low miles, everything working great on the car, original paint, FVD LB2-300 race tune, 100-cell sport cat, Cup-pipe, PSS-10, RS clutch and LWFW, RUF pedals, wheels and steering. All lights inside out swapped for LED’s. Super planted, raw power and visceral as hell. Then what? Sold it..... Now 8 911’s later I drive a Taycan😬
I’m gonna go in the mod direction and in fact just dropped the 993 off yesterday to get the project started. Will be publishing a video on it kind of outlining my vision...but will be asking for viewer input also. Stay tuned.
Being a 964 guy I’m biased to say it is the last of the aircooled. All kidding aside I have a deep appreciation for the 993 and would love to have one someday. You’re like me I purchased my 964 with 197k miles. She is very much a driver. I did rebuild the engine as to a broken headstud(known at purchase) Now she’s sitting at 204k on the chassis and climbing. On to your question. I would just keep what you have and modify it more. Since you love to drive it. Having a special on will make you more apprehensive if there is a scratch or chip. Get new aftermarket wheels, install bumper, may wrap the car. Hell make it an RWB(damn what the purists say). It’s one thing I love about the aircooled is that it’s simple design with a slight twist can change the look dramatically.
GREAT feedback. That’s the decision I’ve reached: to mod it. I’ll be publishing a video soon and will share my thinking, the direction I’ll take the car and how much I’m willing to put into it. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
I understand where your minds at. The exterior and just as importantly if not more so, the interior colors were major criteria on the 1987 911 I eventually bought. Mine had been repainted almost immediately after the original owner bought it. It lowered the value ( good for me) and desirability of the car but the colors looked great to me and everything else about the car was perfect ( 35,000 original miles, one owner, almost new interior, no accidents). If I loved the car and didn’t plan on selling it, and considering how customized your car is now, I’d think about repainting it and customizing the interior. I know a lot of Porsche people will think I’m crazy for saying that but you’d have the car of your dreams.
And by the way, I drive the hell out it. I remember when I was just starting my internship I test drove a 1980 911SC. It was two years old and the owner and his wife were expecting their first child. The owner said he needed a “family vehicle”, an excuse back then to admit you were contemplating a minivan, and needed to sell it. I test drove it and felt I had gone to heaven. Oh I wanted this car. However, the logical, non emotional, boring side of me said no, not now. I ended up not purchasing it but the desire to have one someday remained in the back of my mind. Jump ahead about 27 years. The idea of owning a 911 piqued my mind again and I thought I’d better get one while I can still drive it. I found my 1987 Carrera Cabriolet of my dreams. I have no intention or desire of selling it and making a profit. It’s a beauty, gives me a fun safe thrill, and allows me to live my dream.
Well, a lot of it also comes down to budget. A high spec 993 Carrera S or 4S would probably be the logical evolution (less sure about the Turbo, though it is probably amazing). But do you get a good bang for the buck when you look at the incremental cost versus the incremental driving experience? Probably not, but if you have the $$$, why not? On the other hand, you could invest some of the money instead to further customize your car and make it more special, from engine upgrades to interior upgrades. But if you want an S model in the long run, then just go and do it if you find the right one! There are so few good ones out there, just jump on the one you like when you see it :)
Well said, all of it. I think the greatest return on dollars for my application will probably be customizing mine vs starting the journey all over with another example. At least I know mine is mechanically sorted so makes a great platform for modding vs a more special car that I might feel like needing to avoid tearing into. Thanks for commenting. 👍🏼
Fantastic channel with amazing content from helpful tips to things to avoid. My 1989 triple black is out there and this channel just makes me want it that much more. Keep up the great content.
I really want to get a 993 at some point but at present have a 2003 986 S which I think is great ... so yes both water cooled and a Boxster .... I can hear the boo's and pin drop ...hehehe. My question is, bearing in mind that I think your projected views on Porsche seem so sincere and knowledgeable, have you driven one and what are your thoughts and 'honest' opinions on them ???
If you’re asking me my thoughts on the Boxster, I think they’re cool cars. I do have a fair amount of personal experience with them. Growing up, we had 2 of them in my family: a 98 and an 02. I found the 98 to be more raw. It had shorter gears and stronger acceleration. The 02 had taller gears and felt smoother somehow but wasn’t as exciting. Definitely a different experience than a 911, but I also dig them. They handle amazingly and who doesn’t love top down in convertible weather? A few guys I have a lot of respect for race them as well. I don’t really desire having one for myself as I am a 911 guy through and through but I don’t hate on them or anything. Thanks for watching. 🙏🏽
@@Rennthusiast Thank you that .... fantastic answer. I really want a 911 air-cooled too and am constantly checking 993 prices. I was also looking at the 996 and 997 .... but my heart and age 'ahem' is always for a classic 911 ..... When I was younger I could have picked one up for relative peanuts ..... face palm .....Twice ... hehehe
I wouldn't sell it based on the color and interior being common. You know the car and have it sorted. Better to have a car you know than to buy one that may have a bunch of hidden issues.
Love your content! I have a Zenith Blue 993 c2 and have also done PSS10, Fister stage 3, Recaro Pole Position seats, BBS e88, 991 Cup steering, Fister SSK/Golden Rod, RS engine mounts, and rear seat delete/carpet fully removed. The driving experience is night and day compared to a stock 993. I don't track my car, but doing these mods really wakes up the car and it's such a blast on the B roads. I would keep your 993 since you've already sorted it out. You can grow your channel by doing a color change/wrap, doing some more mods and weight savings. If you find a more special, garage queen 993, you will have a harder time doing mods to it. Looking forward to your next video. Thanks @911c2
I would only hold out for a Carrera S. Otherwise I would keep yours and maybe go partial outlaw...put the turbo front on it, etc. The pail “handle” on the back of the ‘95 has to go. I saw what Magnus did to one...painted it blue, black, yellow, white ...looks a bit clownish to me. The nice thing about the black interior is that it ages well, the grey interior is pretty awful when it gets browned on the edges. Finally, I would consider repainting it if you’re not looking back at it when you walk away. The silver is classic, but you can’t go wrong with “gulf blue”...also known as Carolina blue in your neck of the woods.
You already have the car and its been sorted, runs great and you know all the ins and outs. To get another one, now your starting from scratch. Ive driven the C4s and the C2s, both seem slower than my ‘96 coupe. I hear its a weight advantage with the same exact HP so the standard carrera is the most pure and spirited. Making it special is done by ones own interpretation, with exhaust, suspension (stance), shifting action, etc (which you’ve done and would do again (lot of money to do again). So get some inspiration to customize from instagram, that’s a great place to start (TONS of content). Go to luftgekühlt and checked it out and other air cooled events for inspiration and make it your own (inside and out), that’s the funnest part of being a porsche owner! I have done a bunch to both of my air cooled (and water cooled stuff too) but the air cooled is the most fun to customize! You’ll know what to do and put your own spin on it, and the car will become even more special and those feelings of getting a different one will turn into keeping it! Then I guess getting another to customize again! It’s a great hobby that you really dont lose money on in the end (not many things in life you can say can do that!). Nice Tudor Black bay BTW! I love my blue Pelagos! You got great taste, I’m excited to see what you do with the ride!
Right on re the 10 reasons. Of the 10, Definitely the smell resonates with me the greatest. Also to car gives off an indescribable aura. Most of the other reason stated I fully agree with and often had the exact same thoughts. Specifically the stance and the air cooled culture. Mine is a black C4S with classic elated grey leather and factory aero kit 11 front and rear spoilers and sills. It is highly optioned with crests in headrests, carbon/aluminum shifter and brake handle, metal sill plates, aluminum gauges, so I’m spoiled. Now when I see a base car it looks off. Colored center crests on the wheels and properly lowered which I agree with again...it’s about the stance. That plus the big reds and wide body puts it over the top for me. So this was spot on assessment of what makes a 993 so special. Mine has some acid rain damage and dulled big reds but with a new clutch, flywheel and top end rebuild it runs like, “Stink”. I keep going back and forth about a high quality glass out repaint, but then I would be afraid to drive her. Might as well live and enjoy, there’s enough stress and worry in this world! There is no substitute!
Beautiful cars! I think your 993 is great! I would love to own one someday. I currently have a 1999 996. The smell of mine is one of the things I love as well! Perfect leather smell! Question: Do you have before/after pics of your suspension? Or a youtube video that you did?
You could look into the 993 Martini Racing models, for wrapping and modifying? If that’s your thing... might wanna find an Aero pack then too... but not sure if you’d wanna go all that way... :)
Do not sell the car--this is the one you went for--appreciate it. Drive it and you can fix the paint and seal issues in 2-3 years if it still bothers you. If you fix the paint now and then continue to drive it a lot, it will only be a matter of time until you have to fix it. These cars are meant to be driven and also meant to be appreciated. Since your goal is to get a 911 of each generation (which I think is an awesome goal), make sure to pick the right one of the specific generation, and then once you put work into it, don't have it be a mistake like the 07 Turbo, where you ultimately realize it wasn't the one. Definitely just keep the car, you'll find issues with another 964. Easy to get into the habit of getting a car, and then seeing a better example online for sale that you had the money for, prior to doing the initial purchase, and then you wish you had that one. Appreciate the car for what it is, they've all got their own character, so unless you have an issue with the character of this one, which your whole video suggests you don't, why swap it for another 964? I'm pretty sure when Magnus buys Porsches, he #1 buys them cheap, and #2 keeps them--there are much fewer that he sold, and there's generally a very specific reason that he did sell, rather than opt to make that particular model the kind of car he wanted. I think this is a really important recipe for being a happy collector.
I’d wrap it in a different colour so you can experience a difference! That’s cheaper than selling the car you love and if you like the new colour you could have it repainted. I’ve repainted a few of my cars mainly to get away from boring colours like black or grey. I prefer blue. Doing a wrap is cheap and quicker. Saves on all the hassle in selling your car. I dislike dark interiors. So on my recently acquired Ferrari I had a trim shop replace a dark brown cloth headlining in a light cream leather shade. This simple mod has transformed the car’s interior. Cheaper than swapping cars!
Just subscribed, thinking about making the jump to a 993 cab from my 981 Boxster. I really like the informative and straight way you present your facts. I'm also a tiny bit jealous of your stable there! Thanks for the video!
A lot depends on how you want to use the 993 and your other cars. Do you use the other cars much or have they become garage queens. The air cooled culture, like you said has a large hot rod contingent. Just you buying the turbo front bumper shows that you would probably enjoy the process of tinkering with your 993. Changing the interior is probably relatively cheap if you do it yourself and your able to sell seats, door cards etc to get the interior you want. Thinking about what mods you can do is only half the fun.
I would scoop up a 993 widebody, C2S or C4S. I just recently picked up a '96 C4S in black and tan, I love it to death! Rare enough to be special, but still flies under the radar for those who aren't up to speed on them.
Good article. www.elferspot.com/en/magazin/buyers-guide-porsche-993-carrera/ Also, 95 didn’t have varioram (slightly less power) but it also doesn’t have the immobilizer (can malfunction and disable the car) nor does the SAI clogging trigger a CEL whereas on the 96 - 98 models it does. Plenty of info out there about the 993 and what to look for but my advice is this: Get one, make it a coupe and drive the hell out of it. 😄
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Hey I want to thank you for all the awesome content. Your 993 videos inspired me to fulfill my dream so a couple months ago I picked up a 993 C2S. Arena red over cashmere with sport seats, lsd, and pss10s. Its also a higher mileage (155k!) driver condition car and I love it. I'm gonna do what you're supposed to do with these cars: maintain them well, restore back to their former glory, and drive the hell out of them!
I am so honored - and happy - that my vids helped you accomplish this goal. Congrats on grabbing yourself one of these wonderful machines. Enjoy it in good health. #DriveEm
FYI I just purchased a 1998 Carrera S in part because of your channel. I also have a 1989 930 Turbo. If you’re really thinking of selling it, then a a Carrera S or 4S would be the next step. I wouldn’t recommend a 993 Turbo. It’s a totally different driving experience. On the other hand your car is mainly sorted and only has cosmetic issues which are easy to fix. Also, polar silver is a beautiful color and appeals to the masses. You can keep an eye open for any opportunity to get a different 993 and then sell yours (which should be a quick sale given the condition and history) Good Luck !!
Believe me, I monitor the usual air cooled Porsche classifieds daily, often several times a day. Thanks for the support and congrats on the new ride!
@davidmorales2900 Interested in hearing you elaborate more on the 993 non-turbo vs 993 Turbo driving experience. I’m in the market for a 993 and love the Turbo look, but interested in the perspective of someone who has driven both and can speak to meaningful differences/preferences…thanks in advance!
I found myself in the same situation last year. Currently have a1995 C4, Guards Red/Black with 45,000 miles that I love. I lowered it and replaced the disco radio with a Continental that looks period specific. I am attracted to the C2S with the WB and split grill. Found one, drove it and just realized that I have sorted mine out, I know it well after 4 years of ownership and love everything about it. I have a 2018 GT3 Touring which is an incredible car, but still come up with any excuse I can to drive the 993. You will come to the right conclusion, but to me a 993 is timeless.
The Key Word Sorting it Out , They Only Go Up in Value.
Great video, I love many of the same things about my 993 C4S. You may have convinced me to finally get the PSS10s as well.
In medicine and surgery, there is a well known phrase that comes up from time to time. Perfect is the enemy of good. That is, sometimes you have already achieved a great outcome, but striving for perfection can sometimes undo that and actually make the final outcome worse.
Obviously, this isn’t life or death type stuff, but if you trade “up” for a different 993, you may find yourself knee deep with other gremlins and costly repairs over the years. I’m sure it will have little quirks as well. My PPI estimated a 2k fix.. 8.5k later and 8 weeks later, it was finally ready to go. A “special” spec is going to run you quite a bit as well. But either way, if it really bugs you deep down that your 993 isn’t quite as special as it could be, I’d say go for it. You only live once!
All great points. I think I have $12,000+ into my car above what I paid for the work I’ve had done to it. Just the nature of the beast and doubtless I would go down the same path with a new-to-me car. Thanks for watching and for the advice. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Sell it. Replicate what you love about it in a more “special” example!
Or maybe put some more money into this one and outlaw it. 💰
@@Rennthusiast Keep it and try to teach Jeb how to drive a stick,lol... ps, and Merry belated Christmas to the Brooks family and Mother Brooks.
In the same situation, bought a base 2004 911 Cabriolet then found out I want a C4S. Car looks good enough to keep and gets compliments but have a little cosmetic wear that you are not scared to enjoy it. 114,000 miles, have the C4S bug but thinking about supercharging it along with other upgrades.
I've a 1996 993 C2 (varioram), iris blue metallic, 66,000 miles, 6-speed manny tranny (G50). No CEL, no oil leaks (no really!). I'm NEVER selling it!
Finally first! Merry X-Mas. I vote that you keep it and pull a Magnus Walker on it and make it a bit of an outlaw.
I have been giving that some thought but am struggling with a vision for it. That might be the best of all worlds for me.
I have 2005 c2 thinking about trading for 993. Love 993. Would never sell it if I own it.
993 is fantastic and very special so I don’t blame you for considering this.
Polar Silver is absolutely great color. Suits the car perfectly. Black, silver, white, red and all Porsche blues are quite safe bets. The only color I don't really care for 993 is the purple.
I’d say sell and buy one you love
Why not , life’s for living and I’ve just recovered from Covid so an attitude change to do what you want
Nice video this 🏴🎁🎄⛄️
Merry Christmas
Great Video! I'm on Porsche #29 first car was a 914 in 1980. Current one I purchased in 2000 is a 97 993 Cab Artic Silver. You nailed all the reasons I love my car. Only other I can think of is its reliable!
Haha, I have a better colour (midnight blue) convertible... But: Same drone in the Porsche :-)
I would think so long as you have a solid engine then it's worth doing all the cosmetic upgrades to bring it up to your personal taste even if that means a respray to a colour of your choice. That way you're holding on to car that you trust its reliability rather than taking a gamble with another used one that may end up giving you mechanical issues. Not unless you favour a lower mileage one hence your thinking towards selling.
you won't see another colour when u driving it,- seems like you know that car and trust it. give it 5 years a nd silver be back in fashion
I’m going to be brutally frank with you here, so sincere apologies in advance for my very candid but extremely brutal truth.
-First thing that came to me is how many miles have you driven the car?
- why did you purchase the car and then quickly purchase the other 2 coming from a BMW?
The reasoning you gave come to me as quite fickle and not of a true petrol head and tbh quite disappointed considering what this channel is about! I’ve noticed over the year a lot more of complaints on issues around the car, not sure if it’s to have content on TH-cam or genuinely someone who’s not dialled in with cars.
If you are more concerned about a special 993, please sell the car to a real petrolhead, you don’t deserve that car trust me on this. For you to question a special 993 is quite fickle and as said quite disappointed!
To put in perspectives only 68k 993’s were built worldwide, which included race oriented specials like the unicorn 993GT2, the TurboS then there was the RS or the the RS club sport and then the RSR, followed by the Vesuvio model and the S’s, cabrio and Targa. They are all special and outside of the turbos engines are “for the most part similar”. So to say one 993 is more deserving is missing the point. Which leads back to my first question how many miles have you done? Or are you in the camp of investor/speculator, which still means you still don’t deserve that car and a true petrolhead will more than appreciate something rather special you fail to see.
Now to help you, change the wheels, the exhaust, go to town on the interior starting with the wheels/ seats/ carpets/ pedals/ attack the sunroof/ handbrake/ gearknob, when you are done go to work on the suspension( some coil over), attack the exhaust system, catbypass, headers, hot cams, then get some ITB’s on that bad boy, full exhaust upgrade including airbox, then get the RS spot line wheels(if you are feeling lucky and have deep pockets), next get some lightweight flywheel, get rs engine mounts and gear box mounts, while at it upgrade to short shift gear knob, on the dash get som me nice bezels for the facia, get strut brace upfront as well, next upgrade your headlights, lastly hit the seats and get some recaro seats. If you are still not satisfied, strip it down and stiffen the shell add roll cages and change the colours, white/ Speed yellow, Blue etc etc . Voila you this have your special 993 to make all in earth green with envy, the very best tribute with an engine note even GOD will be jealous of you for. Problem solved...
Yemi So, first of all, if you’ve been paying attention to the channel as you have claimed to then you would know that I have shared many times that I am a driver and have put around 10,000+ miles on the car since I bought it a year a half ago. So, NOT a speculator but a true enthusiast.
Secondly, no need to question my commitment to these (or any other) cars. I bought 3 different 911’s because I value variety in my driving and ownership experiences. This you may call “fickle” but it is what I call spending my money how I wish, enjoying owning different variants of the 911.
Thirdly, you’re right that I have been transparent about repairs and how they have frustrated me. Who enjoys having to spend more and more money on maintenance items?
The reason I am putting this content out there is it’s good for “true petrol heads” who want into one of these cars knows what they’re getting if they do buy one. I have also shared each time that it’s totally worth it due to how fantastic these cars are. And I have gotten tons of “thank you’s” online and offline for being transparent about the repair end of owning these cars.
Now, here’s where I will be brutally honest with you: it’s absolutely offensive to me that you would say I (or anyone for that matter) don’t “deserve” a car. So arrogant. Anyone who can buy one deserves it.
One positive I’ll give you here is that you do have some good insight into additional mods I can do to the car to make it more interesting. So thanks for that. And that’s the direction I’m leaning after getting a lot of good advice as a result of this vid.
Based on your disappointment, it seems to me the direction of the channel probably isn’t right for you so perhaps you don’t want to stick around.
Yemi - Sounds like you really know your way around modifications, especially going to town on the carpet and bezels. Obviously you included some humor, the low-brow type that even I could catch.own
didn't-turbulence" that even differential equations can't resolve, which leaves trial & error as the only plausible solution.long-lasting engine that's always gonna be rebuildable. Isn't it true that the wrong exhaust can burn the valves, for instance? There's a lot of thought that goes into balancing the power and torque specifications for any road car, rennsport or not. By the time you rebuild a base model into a road monster, you'd probably be better-off financially and safety-wise with a Turbo, unless of course, you have the requisite patience and confidence. Other opinions may differ.
@@Rennthusiast fair comment, as I did mention, I will be brutal in my comment all done with respect on an OPEN platform, as I give it I take it equally. However if deemed offensive being candid, apologies. Good day.
@@neilanderson891 True and I agree, the whole point of my response - no pun intended - was, (guess it’s based on perspectives) all 993’s are special, the notion of considering parting with one because it’s not special enough seems lost on me. But then again that’s just my weird perspective I guess and as insinuated, you pays your money and you choose your..... get my drift!
Yemi I welcome candid feedback and honest opinions. As you mentioned, I can’t be on TH-cam and not expect that and I also believe it’s important to hear candid insight for the sake of growth and improvement.
The thing about your comment is that you included some uninformed judgment into it about my use of this 993 and also why I chose to buy 3 of these cars.
On a more personal note, I also have deep belief that we all get what we deserve (and work for) and deserve what we get so the idea that I (or anyone else) doesn’t deserve something didn’t sit well with me.
Regardless, thanks for your follow up and thanks again for the mod ideas.
I hate the lowered look. Hate the titled gauges. De gustibus non est disputandum. Agree that the newer wheels are an improvement over the older ones, but for me, that car is screaming for some Fuchs style wheels. Love the car; I want one.
Hello, thank you for this video (I am a little late to the party), Currently I am looking for a "driver" for sure. In the garage waiting for spring is my 87' 928 S4. It is in great shape and I have it just about sorted. However, since I was 14 I have always dreamed of a 911 style Porsche. Sadly, as you know, they have really jumped in price and I am afraid if I do not act in the next year or two, all of them will be out of range for me. Thanks again, you have helped me start my search for my Dream car (I hope the 928 will understand!)
I wish I could afford to, if only, I think it's very special even with 100k mi on the clock. I love my 07 Cayman and only dream of 911's but of all Porsches the 993s are my absolute favorites.
I bought a 1995 993 in 2014 with 42K miles needed Service and minor exterior work, You know it will cost you to get it right but worth it, I have no plans to sell it it's a Keeper. And it's polar Silver and that's a Great Color .
Yes on the smell, compactness of the car and gauges (of course we turn them to best see what we need to see).
I would not sell your 993 because of ‘normal’ appearance. I certainly agree that examples that appear close to stock don’t shout “I’m unique”. Within the Porsche DNA there are any number of appearance mods you might consider. You could do side script decals in an accent color (I have gold ‘Carrera’ script to match the Porsche logo and wheel hoops - against a forest green metallic body color). Believe it or not, an after market steering wheel makes quite a statement, as well as a different feel (I have an OMP superleggera wheel). I know you don’t care for rear wings, but I also have an RS America whale tail on mine - it’s not only distinctive on a 964, but also, it harkens back to the G body era without being a contrived back date.
Most importantly, you know your car - it’s condition, strengths and weaknesses. Even with extensive maintenance receipts, you would be starting all over again in caring for a car that’s new to you.
hahaha! I hear that brother. Years ago, i owned a little civic CX (bottom of the barrel car) and I always thought about the Si version. Since that time, I have only purchased the top of the line (within reason of course). Have a couple of M3's. Never think of about upgrading.
Nice review. The gauges are rotated and not tilted. Tilting would mean the gauges are rotated along the plane axis of the gauges where as rotation would be rotating along an axis that is perpendicular to the face of the gauges.
What I love about mine air cooled 911 are the round analog gauges, the size, light weight, the vault like sound of the doors when you shut them and the distinct click when you pull the door latch mechanism.
You want a special car - buy a 1993 or 1994 RS America! Guaranteed you won't come across another one anytime soon 👍👍.
If that’s all that bothers you, why not get it repainted?!?! Solves your cosmetic issues. Get PPF on it and then forget about stone chips. Problem solved! No?
If have the finances to go for a 964 or 993 RS then I might would sell the 993 but I believe other than those two cars, you have the pick of the bunch! The turbo is beautiful but isn’t as pure and also is heavier. The polar silver is cool but a blue or Green would be better IMO! I have a 17 Carrera with the 7spd and I absolutely love it. No where near as analog but great as a daily and for trips with its comfort and technology. Also it rips and with a tune would be ridiculous
DO NOT SELL IT
Man I want one after buying a 997tts. I agree that the spec on your 993 is not great though. But still a dam 993!!
I need to build another garage before I get anymore cars. So not happening anytime soon for me, I’ll continue to live vicariously
As a 993 owner I can only agree with all 10 of your points. Luckily I already have the special 993 you are possibly looking for as mine is a 993 turbo with a Ruf engine and suspension package. The garage where it is serviced love seeing it with road dirt on it as so many of them aren't used other than driving to their annual service. Of all you comments the small size of the car is the one that resonates most. Its about the size of a Cayman but has 490bhp.
The 02 996 wheels are not a reason to love your 993...it’s a reason to love the 996, as it wasn’t made for the 993. Lol. I would sell the base Carrera 993 and get a C4S 993 with the wide body which I think looks the best on the 993 shape. I think it’s cool how you tilted your gauges btw.
I am very confused with your usage of vertical and horizontal dash. I feel the classic older dash is very horizontal as opposed to vertical. You should keep that 993 example for the road trips and the spirited driving experience without worrying about chips on the paint. Buy another 993 with the more special specs you are looking for and savor it at home and some casual driving (cars and coffee) to keep it fresh and valuable. Where are those twisted roads I see on the video with the autumn colors? They look like nice driving roads.
Enjoyed the video...I have an arena red 1997 993 and so love it. I would say keep your 993. I personally think it's gorgeous. I know you've spent quite a bit of money on it so I would just enjoy it! But, ultimately it's got to be whatever makes your heart thump. If you find another one that you like I would think you could sell yours quickly with no issue. Anyway....thanks again!
I had a shot at an aventurine green one a few months back but the seller elected to sell it to an old friend instead of me. I totally get it but was disappointing nonetheless.
Love my TIP is all you need. I kept up w a gt3 in the twisty only blasts away in the straight away. I can’t ask more from a Tiprontic. Sometime I wanna chill millennial thing..
Yup. It is. A millennial thing.
Can´t get into the gauge mod. When you´re on it you can tell by the sound, feel and circumstance when it´s time to shift. You´d only be looking at gauges on a straightaway with no danger involved. As to the speedo, you only look at that if you´re worried about the limit near speed traps. Any other time, you know when you´re speeding. 😃
Silver over black narrow body 911??
That's been lowered?
BBS Split Rims😊
They would look cool
I own a 96 Carrera 4S loved it it was special it was white it was in excellent condition but I am too tall to be driving such a small car and I wasn't really comfortable and it from the day I bought it I wanted it it was my dream car and I just really really had to sell it because I'm 65 and I had to I'm Too Tall and it's not very comfortable
Hi I agree with you. I would look for another 993. Why don't you look for a 993 2s or 4s or a turbo? I have owned a 4s and and a turbo. My advice: go for 2s or 4s. The sound is much nicer than with a turbo and you already have a fast turbo.
I go to PCA Club Events in the Chicago Area with My 993 and there may be 80 Cars and 2 993's They are Special.
I like understated, too many modern sports cars with body wings etc on the back front and sides.
Awesome cinematic shots and your presenting manor is super natural and relaxed. Great work!
No issue with you selling to get a different color or maybe one with varioram. Just keep it a driver. I would not sell and get something so special that you won’t drive it as much. I prefer silver as maintenance is low. I personally want one in speed yellow, maybe some day.
I love your channel, if you are really considering selling, I am interested to maybe purchase the 993, would love to discuss
It is a well sorted car! Keep it, and go find another 993. These are only going up in value!!
Keep it.....Classic cars are exciting because of their originality. There is nothing ever wrong with Polar silver or traditional black leather. You have a daily driver that is pure Porsche. This alone is reason to keep it forever.
Just widen the fenders 👍 like the C2s, but I'm just assuming that's what your looking for.
Hi! My advice is keep it and continue upgrading it to the level it becomes truly special for you. Colorwise - just get it wrapped, it’s fully reversible and sky is a limit. I love mine 993 in aventurine green with black interior and all this together with upgrades makes it special enough. I’ve got daily 996 C4S as well and I’m thinking of wrapping it. Aventurine green - obviously 😏
Man, you have a KILLER color. I had a shot at an aventurine green 95 coupe but the seller elected to sell it to his friend instead of me which I totally get. Thanks for watching.
It will be for sale won’t be long
I ended up keeping it
Enjoyed the content. Thanks.
Scott Thompson thanks for the support and for watching.
One of my good friends bought a 97 C2S from Brumos - Black with Black leather 6 spd, motor sound, turbo twist wheels, whale tail.- he sold it with 18k miles for about 4 k less than he paid off the showroom floor - IMHOthe 993 is the best of them, I drove a 86 for a year or so and the transmissions and clutch difference in the 86 to the 97 is light years apart.
Oh yes, without question the 915 gearbox is very different than the G50 derivative found in the 993...but both are GREAT cars!
You should love it, it's one of the best looking 993's on TH-cam
There is a reason Patrick Long has a Polar Silver C2 just like your 993. Unless you’re spending $400k on a real 993 RS, there is no purer driver’s car than a NB C2.
Also, if it’s been too long since I’ve driven my 993, I’ll run out to the garage just for a few sniffs of that aircooled scent 😂 Love it!
Maybe after you head out to snort some 993 you can start giving thought to helping me hash out a vision for mine. 😂
Definitely agree smell! One of the best things about my 964 too.
Another excellent video. Hoping to pick up a 993 next year.
I would be interested to know what 993 spec you’d be most interested in if you were to sell the car.
It's gorgeous! Just keep it!
The 993 RS is a C2 , Porsche Chose it because it handles better the wide body is has wider fenders thats it.
N how much does it worth 4 selling this muscle...? Typically
I have a 1995 993 C2 Manual, mine is black over black, so it's a bit like the Batmobile! I fitted the Golden Rod and the RS Short Throw, huge improvement over standard gear linkages. I know what you mean about being a few on the road and not that special. I fitted the 993 RS touring wing, it completely changed the look of the C2 (turbo wing is too big on narrow body). I'm in Sydney where a 993 Turbo is more than double the price of a Carrera and a 993RS is about four times. I've driven both and yes they are better but not by that margin. I also have a MGA, MGB GT V8 and a 240Z and am thinking about a 997 GT3 of Turbo, first world problems lol.
Worst thing about the car is my son said I look a lot cooler in your cars than you do dad!!
Man you shouldn't sell this car, for me it's just the right exterior and interior color.
A little late to the party but just wanted to say thanks for the video. Great so see some Porsche content, I've been missing car shows. Stuck in Canada and the last time I made it down south was for Darin Fister's spritztour show. The community is the best part of these cars, and I've made some fantastic friends through the 911/993 community. You should check out a product called the Pad Keeper for your engine bay sound pad BTW, they're a nice addition.
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Mod it, make it special by making it your custom 993.
Your too focused step back.take a vacation.comeback fresh.your garage is redundant.2 911 cars.I choose your 86 instead.if you can afford 2.....than you can sell them for your dream car.test drive a 930 or 935.I'll buy your 86
86 might go up for sale shortly. I have been going back and forth on it.
I went from a high mileage midnight blue 95 C2 with a nice but tired set of PSS9 to a low mileage arena red 96 C4S with a brand new set of KWs and a nice new set of BBS LMs. Very happy with the C4S, a spec I think I can enjoy for years to come.
Very nice!
I agree with you! I hate how today's cars center consoles keep growing in size. They are intrusive and take so much space from the cabin. For me they make a car feel claustrophobic. Love my 993 flat dash too.
Have you looked at the big mess the designs at GM did on the C8 Corvette? There is a long center strip that divides the driver & passenger with all the tiny buttons for the HVAC system!!
My step into the Porsche world was a pure red Cayenne titanium S. A 16 year old girl ran into me totaling my car. The insurance fought me on its value. I loved that car. I now have a pure white Cayenne S. If it's a driver and it's to enjoy on the road it's been my experience to not get a special one. As you said you enjoy it because you can. Loved the video.
Sorry to hear you lost your first Porsche. That sucks. On the positive side, sounds like you have a great one that replaced it.
I would keep it, you are so lucky owning an air cooled Porsche yet alone two, even if one is a base model. I would love to get into air cooled Porsches but the prices are simply out of my reach over here in the UK so I settle for my Boxster. Don’t get me wrong I love it but I would love to be in your shoes to get to own and drive an air cooled 911. Great channel, hope you do keep it 👍🏻😊
Thanks for the support!
I had this same car 12yrs ago, but with the linen leather interior
If you're not 100% in love with it, sell to someone who will be.
I would buy it for my self if was in Italy (and had the money)
Peak of their design and tech.
This is the only Porsche i like.
My 95 993 always smelled like leather and oil. It smelled old. Should be a cologne. Recently sold it because it was just too slow.
Love the oil and leather. Hope you made out well on the car. I’ll bet you did.
That's a really cool video, and I fully agree with all your ups and the one down that you mention at the end of the video. I would definitely recommend you to sell it and choose a 993 Carrera 4 which has a bit more prestige. To have a somewhat special model, you could choose a phase 1 that was made in 1994/1995 and develops 272hp has opposed to the 285hp on the later models. However, I am not sure if they are available in your area. Good luck and hopefully you find the right one for you ;)
Nice sales ad. Probably sold by now. Why 285/35-18? Should be 285/30-18?
Lmao you give me too much credit. Plus I don’t really want to use the channel for that.
Go watch this vid:
th-cam.com/video/-DZOTBQSRuA/w-d-xo.html
It is last of the air-cooled and first of the non handmade cars.
I own a 2007 BMW coupe which was silver on black when I purchased it. I changed the interior to red, upgraded the sound system and added some sexier wheels. Now it feels special.
maybe cause i like blues ,but polar silver stands out to me!
I had more or less the same with an outlawed 964C4. Manual, sport seats, no sunroof, low miles, everything working great on the car, original paint, FVD LB2-300 race tune, 100-cell sport cat, Cup-pipe, PSS-10, RS clutch and LWFW, RUF pedals, wheels and steering. All lights inside out swapped for LED’s. Super planted, raw power and visceral as hell. Then what?
Sold it.....
Now 8 911’s later I drive a Taycan😬
Btw, new sub👌🏻
I’m gonna go in the mod direction and in fact just dropped the 993 off yesterday to get the project started. Will be publishing a video on it kind of outlining my vision...but will be asking for viewer input also. Stay tuned.
Being a 964 guy I’m biased to say it is the last of the aircooled. All kidding aside I have a deep appreciation for the 993 and would love to have one someday. You’re like me I purchased my 964 with 197k miles. She is very much a driver. I did rebuild the engine as to a broken headstud(known at purchase) Now she’s sitting at 204k on the chassis and climbing.
On to your question. I would just keep what you have and modify it more. Since you love to drive it. Having a special on will make you more apprehensive if there is a scratch or chip. Get new aftermarket wheels, install bumper, may wrap the car. Hell make it an RWB(damn what the purists say). It’s one thing I love about the aircooled is that it’s simple design with a slight twist can change the look dramatically.
GREAT feedback. That’s the decision I’ve reached: to mod it. I’ll be publishing a video soon and will share my thinking, the direction I’ll take the car and how much I’m willing to put into it.
Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
@@Rennthusiast Awesome, I’ve subscribed and definitely look forward to seeing the next video.
I understand where your minds at. The exterior and just as importantly if not more so, the interior colors were major criteria on the 1987 911 I eventually bought. Mine had been repainted almost immediately after the original owner bought it. It lowered the value ( good for me) and desirability of the car but the colors looked great to me and everything else about the car was perfect ( 35,000 original miles, one owner, almost new interior, no accidents). If I loved the car and didn’t plan on selling it, and considering how customized your car is now, I’d think about repainting it and customizing the interior. I know a lot of Porsche people will think I’m crazy for saying that but you’d have the car of your dreams.
Wayne Gray you and I are on the same page.
And by the way, I drive the hell out it. I remember when I was just starting my internship I test drove a 1980 911SC. It was two years old and the owner and his wife were expecting their first child. The owner said he needed a “family vehicle”, an excuse back then to admit you were contemplating a minivan, and needed to sell it. I test drove it and felt I had gone to heaven. Oh I wanted this car. However, the logical, non emotional, boring side of me said no, not now. I ended up not purchasing it but the desire to have one someday remained in the back of my mind. Jump ahead about 27 years. The idea of owning a 911 piqued my mind again and I thought I’d better get one while I can still drive it. I found my 1987 Carrera Cabriolet of my dreams. I have no intention or desire of selling it and making a profit. It’s a beauty, gives me a fun safe thrill, and allows me to live my dream.
You nailed it. Like a go cart. I have have a 1996 993 Turbo that I bought new and will have until the day I die, ~165K and going.
Well, a lot of it also comes down to budget. A high spec 993 Carrera S or 4S would probably be the logical evolution (less sure about the Turbo, though it is probably amazing). But do you get a good bang for the buck when you look at the incremental cost versus the incremental driving experience? Probably not, but if you have the $$$, why not? On the other hand, you could invest some of the money instead to further customize your car and make it more special, from engine upgrades to interior upgrades. But if you want an S model in the long run, then just go and do it if you find the right one! There are so few good ones out there, just jump on the one you like when you see it :)
Well said, all of it. I think the greatest return on dollars for my application will probably be customizing mine vs starting the journey all over with another example.
At least I know mine is mechanically sorted so makes a great platform for modding vs a more special car that I might feel like needing to avoid tearing into.
Thanks for commenting. 👍🏼
@@Rennthusiast But I know how it is, once the bug bit you, it is almost impossible to stop :)
Fantastic channel with amazing content from helpful tips to things to avoid. My 1989 triple black is out there and this channel just makes
me want it that much more. Keep up the great content.
I really want to get a 993 at some point but at present have a 2003 986 S which I think is great ... so yes both water cooled and a Boxster .... I can hear the boo's and pin drop ...hehehe. My question is, bearing in mind that I think your projected views on Porsche seem so sincere and knowledgeable, have you driven one and what are your thoughts and 'honest' opinions on them ???
If you’re asking me my thoughts on the Boxster, I think they’re cool cars. I do have a fair amount of personal experience with them. Growing up, we had 2 of them in my family: a 98 and an 02.
I found the 98 to be more raw. It had shorter gears and stronger acceleration. The 02 had taller gears and felt smoother somehow but wasn’t as exciting.
Definitely a different experience than a 911, but I also dig them. They handle amazingly and who doesn’t love top down in convertible weather?
A few guys I have a lot of respect for race them as well.
I don’t really desire having one for myself as I am a 911 guy through and through but I don’t hate on them or anything.
Thanks for watching. 🙏🏽
@@Rennthusiast Thank you that .... fantastic answer. I really want a 911 air-cooled too and am constantly checking 993 prices. I was also looking at the 996 and 997 .... but my heart and age 'ahem' is always for a classic 911 ..... When I was younger I could have picked one up for relative peanuts ..... face palm .....Twice ... hehehe
The stance on this ride is perfect. Nice work.
They gotta be tip young man.
I wouldn't sell it based on the color and interior being common. You know the car and have it sorted. Better to have a car you know than to buy one that may have a bunch of hidden issues.
Love your content! I have a Zenith Blue 993 c2 and have also done PSS10, Fister stage 3, Recaro Pole Position seats, BBS e88, 991 Cup steering, Fister SSK/Golden Rod, RS engine mounts, and rear seat delete/carpet fully removed. The driving experience is night and day compared to a stock 993. I don't track my car, but doing these mods really wakes up the car and it's such a blast on the B roads. I would keep your 993 since you've already sorted it out. You can grow your channel by doing a color change/wrap, doing some more mods and weight savings. If you find a more special, garage queen 993, you will have a harder time doing mods to it. Looking forward to your next video. Thanks @911c2
Think it is cool that you tilted the gauges.
I would only hold out for a Carrera S. Otherwise I would keep yours and maybe go partial outlaw...put the turbo front on it, etc. The pail “handle” on the back of the ‘95 has to go. I saw what Magnus did to one...painted it blue, black, yellow, white ...looks a bit clownish to me. The nice thing about the black interior is that it ages well, the grey interior is pretty awful when it gets browned on the edges. Finally, I would consider repainting it if you’re not looking back at it when you walk away. The silver is classic, but you can’t go wrong with “gulf blue”...also known as Carolina blue in your neck of the woods.
You already have the car and its been sorted, runs great and you know all the ins and outs. To get another one, now your starting from scratch. Ive driven the C4s and the C2s, both seem slower than my ‘96 coupe. I hear its a weight advantage with the same exact HP so the standard carrera is the most pure and spirited. Making it special is done by ones own interpretation, with exhaust, suspension (stance), shifting action, etc (which you’ve done and would do again (lot of money to do again). So get some inspiration to customize from instagram, that’s a great place to start (TONS of content). Go to luftgekühlt and checked it out and other air cooled events for inspiration and make it your own (inside and out), that’s the funnest part of being a porsche owner! I have done a bunch to both of my air cooled (and water cooled stuff too) but the air cooled is the most fun to customize! You’ll know what to do and put your own spin on it, and the car will become even more special and those feelings of getting a different one will turn into keeping it! Then I guess getting another to customize again! It’s a great hobby that you really dont lose money on in the end (not many things in life you can say can do that!). Nice Tudor Black bay BTW! I love my blue Pelagos! You got great taste, I’m excited to see what you do with the ride!
Right on re the 10 reasons. Of the 10, Definitely the smell resonates with me the greatest. Also to car gives off an indescribable aura. Most of the other reason stated I fully agree with and often had the exact same thoughts. Specifically the stance and the air cooled culture. Mine is a black C4S with classic elated grey leather and factory aero kit 11 front and rear spoilers and sills. It is highly optioned with crests in headrests, carbon/aluminum shifter and brake handle, metal sill plates, aluminum gauges, so I’m spoiled. Now when I see a base car it looks off. Colored center crests on the wheels and properly lowered which I agree with again...it’s about the stance. That plus the big reds and wide body puts it over the top for me. So this was spot on assessment of what makes a 993 so special. Mine has some acid rain damage and dulled big reds but with a new clutch, flywheel and top end rebuild it runs like, “Stink”. I keep going back and forth about a high quality glass out repaint, but then I would be afraid to drive her. Might as well live and enjoy, there’s enough stress and worry in this world! There is no substitute!
Beautiful cars! I think your 993 is great! I would love to own one someday. I currently have a 1999 996. The smell of mine is one of the things I love as well! Perfect leather smell! Question: Do you have before/after pics of your suspension? Or a youtube video that you did?
You could look into the 993 Martini Racing models, for wrapping and modifying? If that’s your thing... might wanna find an Aero pack then too... but not sure if you’d wanna go all that way... :)
Do not sell the car--this is the one you went for--appreciate it. Drive it and you can fix the paint and seal issues in 2-3 years if it still bothers you. If you fix the paint now and then continue to drive it a lot, it will only be a matter of time until you have to fix it. These cars are meant to be driven and also meant to be appreciated. Since your goal is to get a 911 of each generation (which I think is an awesome goal), make sure to pick the right one of the specific generation, and then once you put work into it, don't have it be a mistake like the 07 Turbo, where you ultimately realize it wasn't the one. Definitely just keep the car, you'll find issues with another 964. Easy to get into the habit of getting a car, and then seeing a better example online for sale that you had the money for, prior to doing the initial purchase, and then you wish you had that one. Appreciate the car for what it is, they've all got their own character, so unless you have an issue with the character of this one, which your whole video suggests you don't, why swap it for another 964? I'm pretty sure when Magnus buys Porsches, he #1 buys them cheap, and #2 keeps them--there are much fewer that he sold, and there's generally a very specific reason that he did sell, rather than opt to make that particular model the kind of car he wanted. I think this is a really important recipe for being a happy collector.
@rennthusiast love the vid and love the car even more. interested in buying if you're still interested in selling it.
Decided to keep it. Check it out: th-cam.com/video/keaKU_BIplc/w-d-xo.html
I’d wrap it in a different colour so you can experience a difference! That’s cheaper than selling the car you love and if you like the new colour you could have it repainted.
I’ve repainted a few of my cars mainly to get away from boring colours like black or grey. I prefer blue.
Doing a wrap is cheap and quicker. Saves on all the hassle in selling your car.
I dislike dark interiors. So on my recently acquired Ferrari I had a trim shop replace a dark brown cloth headlining in a light cream leather shade. This simple mod has transformed the car’s interior. Cheaper than swapping cars!
Just subscribed, thinking about making the jump to a 993 cab from my 981 Boxster. I really like the informative and straight way you present your facts. I'm also a tiny bit jealous of your stable there! Thanks for the video!
Turbo special or RS special?
A lot depends on how you want to use the 993 and your other cars. Do you use the other cars much or have they become garage queens. The air cooled culture, like you said has a large hot rod contingent. Just you buying the turbo front bumper shows that you would probably enjoy the process of tinkering with your 993. Changing the interior is probably relatively cheap if you do it yourself and your able to sell seats, door cards etc to get the interior you want.
Thinking about what mods you can do is only half the fun.
I would scoop up a 993 widebody, C2S or C4S. I just recently picked up a '96 C4S in black and tan, I love it to death! Rare enough to be special, but still flies under the radar for those who aren't up to speed on them.
Return to stock form and keep it!
I’m in East Tennessee I’ve been wanting a Porsche for a while I love the 993 I’m a newbie so to speak any advise or info would be appreciated 👍🏻
Good article. www.elferspot.com/en/magazin/buyers-guide-porsche-993-carrera/
Also, 95 didn’t have varioram (slightly less power) but it also doesn’t have the immobilizer (can malfunction and disable the car) nor does the SAI clogging trigger a CEL whereas on the 96 - 98 models it does.
Plenty of info out there about the 993 and what to look for but my advice is this:
Get one, make it a coupe and drive the hell out of it. 😄
@@Rennthusiast Thanks Will 👍🏻 I will check out the article and be on the lookout