finally on the right track, been trying to get to this type of generative stuff for a couples weeks, which led me to modular and VCV rack, thanks a lot!
As a huge fan of Chicago House and Acid music I must commend you on your 303 sound. Nicely done. Thank you so much for your videos. They have helped me a ton!!
I am so happy you are around Omri! Your videos made me do music again... and now I ask myself after 20 years last playing classic... what would Beethoven done with VCV Rack? Probably your stuff.. Cheers! Keep on.. when my financials are back up in good regions after buying some music hardware Ill join you on Patreon..
Amazing! Been trying to figure out drum kits using sequencers and kickBaba, this takes everything I was doing and makes it 10x simpler, love it! I’ll have to get trummor now! Thanks so much Omri!
Nice, I like the idea of running irregular clocks through a divider. And I have heard you say it before, but I forget about the one sample delay per module... Need to keep that one in my mind. Great examples as always.
I was already using bernouilli gates for that, but you added some tips i never thought of ! Also i like the drawing on screen you do now ! Very nice :)
Hey Omri, thanks for these ideas! Lots of fun! Also I noticed that you use stoermelder MB, that module is utter bliss. (Much faster loading on my piece of crap laptop)
that 1 sample delay when u are using a clock divider (9:30) is caused bc of the clock divider or the use of several modules? because with the Bernoulli Gate u are not using any mult btw love this video, i started few days ago with the modular synthesis :)
Yeah, because of the use of several modules. Each module will add a 1ms of delay so sometimes triggers will reach their destinations at different times which might cause issues. It's nothing to be concerned about, most of the time, but it's useful to know. Cheers!
I haven't used the comparator approach yet, but it's something I'll try. I like using bernoulli switches to control gates a lot. I also like adding chord changes using re-win scenes which gives a sense of controlled movement. Even if you run the voices from a sequence, messing with the gates through Bernoulli switches and tailoring the envelopes, you can get some nice effects and some order within the chaos. I used this last week for a patch called SpaceFilters: th-cam.com/video/Gl6r6h_aUEw/w-d-xo.html that I used as the backing for the track Spacewave: th-cam.com/video/0-jio7uNTvc/w-d-xo.html
Very helpful. Thanks for making this. Couple questions. Is it possible to add varying gate lengths and accents? Making the melody / rhythm more expressive?
Cheers! And yes, you can use something like DGate from BogAudio and modulate\sequence the gate length. For accents, you can use an additional VCA, or a filter, or both, and modulate\sequence them for adding accents.
I understand that this video is about more broad definition of "Genretative Rythms" but after watching videos with VCV tracks on yt for a while, i feel like a lot of people missing out on Seeds of Change module. How you can create generative random sequences of melodies, gates or trigs, and then loop it. Plus it is already have attenuverters and CVs on every output and expanders with even more outputs. This module have been heart of so many patches, but I didn't realy have seen any big VCV creators talk about it. It is not like Frozen Wasteland is small obscure collection and i just don't understand why. Sorry, just needed to vent!
I'd previously only come across Bernoulli in the context of fluid dynamics. I presume in this context it's more to do with his work in random probabilities. As I'm interested in more ambient type stuff I like the association with fluid movement.
The fluid Bernoulli is Daniel, who was the nephew of Jacob Bernoulli. Jacob wrote one of the first books on probability, the Ars Conjectandi, so the Bernoulli gate used here is named after him.
@@ZetaCarinae Aah. Thank you. That makes sense. They don't seem directly related areas of study. I studied electronic engineering and fluid dynamics was one of our general engineering subjects. The probability Bernoulli I only came across after googling when I watched this TH-cam programme. Thanks for the history!
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for your great content Omri. I haven't downloaded VCV yet but want to watch some more of your stuff first. It should save me a lot of time getting stuck in. Some of the best presented information on TH-cam and love your music.
May I ask What on-screen mouse utility program are you using? initially I thought It was done in post but your recent videos have real time mouse sketching right?
The last stage of your clock divider section is driving me up the wall trying to figure it out. VCV's 4-input mixer, its delay panel and SEQ-3 sequencer got updated at some point and now look different and possibly have different outputs. i don't know if the SEQ 3 not having a Gate output is the cause, but i've tried setting absolutely everything else as close as i can in that section and all i get is a squelchy, toneless mess and can't figure out what the cause is.
Yeah, this might be confusing since everything looks different. Actually, you're right, the SEQ3, by default, will not output gates, but you can change this in the right click menu by choosing to pass through the clock. Is this solving the issue? Feel free to email me also, and I will try to help you with this.
@@OmriCohen-Music i might take another look at it soon, i did try a couple of your other tutorials and was getting good results, especially the Straus one running the chord generator through the arpeggiator
@@OmriCohen-Music I think that clock passthrough made a difference? It looks like i made a dog's breakfast out of it, i came back to load it up and i can see I tried running it through 3 other modules to have it punch out 8 note sequences of notes instead of the constant bass notes you ended up with. I reckon I'll put that one down and move onto the next chapter before I give myself a migraine again lol
Well, the PhraseSeq has a song mode that allows you to chain phrases so there's one phrase with a different length. It's quite a deep sequencer and can be super interesting to work with.
you have become the official vcv guru and i’m really interested in watching your videos, but recently i don’t, because the videos are simply too long! to me 10 to 15 min is the limit, unless i’m really into something. more than 20 min is a very rare thing to me. normally i’m watching youtube videos at night and long ones i just leave untouched. if i was you, i would cut the videos into shorter episodes. i’m quite sure, that you would get more audience this way.
Hey, thanks so much for your feedback! I have to be honest, I also have difficulties watching long videos. I have so many still in my 'watch later' playlist I just can't seem to find time for. That said, I'm not so sure how I can shorten my videos, there's so much to go through. From experience, having multiple episodes is not working so well. But still, I will see if there's something I can do in the future.
Interesting, but not "generative". Nothing is being "generated" here. It doesn't go anywhere in any particular direction. It is just eternal slightly constrained randomness. Which is not "generation".
Generative in the context of music usually means constantly changing, infinite permutations, evolving, never exactly the same. Steven Reich, Terry Riley, and Brian Eno are early examples. Another term that's closely related is procedural. Developing an algorithm or process that generates the composition. Modular synth is often considered generative music, especially when there's some random aspect of the process.
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Super sick tutorial. Definitely one of those, that help you with deep and clear understanding of VCV❤❤❤
Thanks!
finally on the right track, been trying to get to this type of generative stuff for a couples weeks, which led me to modular and VCV rack, thanks a lot!
Thanks so much!
Once again opening up incredible pathways and possibilities in my mind. Thank you for all that you do, Omri! 👽👾😎🤯
Glad you enjoy it!
OOO i love the beginning of this video. straight to the point. beaut!
Thank you, Omri! Your channel is just VCV Encyclopedia. Your videos are priceless!
I appreciate it, thank you!
This is one of the coolest sounding patches of yours I’ve run into so far. Super cool.
Glad you like it!
That was a great refresh for me of various techniques. Cheers Omri !
OH YEAH! i was looking for this. Always great timing omri
Cheers!
Dang, can't believe I didn't think of the latch mode to flip the probability and space out triggers! Thanks for that tip!
Have fun!
As a huge fan of Chicago House and Acid music I must commend you on your 303 sound. Nicely done. Thank you so much for your videos. They have helped me a ton!!
Oh nice, thanks! :)
I am so happy you are around Omri! Your videos made me do music again... and now I ask myself after 20 years last playing classic... what would Beethoven done with VCV Rack? Probably your stuff.. Cheers! Keep on.. when my financials are back up in good regions after buying some music hardware Ill join you on Patreon..
I appreciate it! I also ask myself sometimes how would Beethoven make music with modular... He would have loved granular, I'm sure of it!
Amazing! Been trying to figure out drum kits using sequencers and kickBaba, this takes everything I was doing and makes it 10x simpler, love it! I’ll have to get trummor now! Thanks so much Omri!
Have fun!
Set the probability control for the heart of the sun.
Little by little
Nice, I like the idea of running irregular clocks through a divider. And I have heard you say it before, but I forget about the one sample delay per module... Need to keep that one in my mind. Great examples as always.
Yeah, it can be tricky but also crucial sometimes.
Yeah, great practical example there, teachable moment! :)
completly forgot about it, so important!
great tutorial as always! so many inspiring ideas, thanks a lot! :)
Thanks so much!
insane tutorial, so gratefull for the playground you just offered .. thanks omri !!
Thank you so much!
This is really inspiring Omri, thank you!
Glad you like it!
this video answered a bunch of questions I had. great tutorial.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice! A lot of great prompts for experimentation, thanks for this.
Thanks for watching!
So cool! Definitely wanna try this!
Let me know how it goes :)
I was already using bernouilli gates for that, but you added some tips i never thought of ! Also i like the drawing on screen you do now ! Very nice :)
Hey, thanks!
Thank you! Thank You! Thank You! 👏👏👏
Cheers!
Good to know about that 1 sample delay issue.
very Instructive and interesting work .. As always! Thx a lot !
Thanks!
oh thx for showing the teleport!
Set it to 3 o clock. Nice one.
Let's wait for it.... oh yeah :)
Hey Omri, thanks for these ideas! Lots of fun! Also I noticed that you use stoermelder MB, that module is utter bliss. (Much faster loading on my piece of crap laptop)
I love this module...! Cheers!
that 1 sample delay when u are using a clock divider (9:30) is caused bc of the clock divider or the use of several modules? because with the Bernoulli Gate u are not using any mult
btw love this video, i started few days ago with the modular synthesis :)
Yeah, because of the use of several modules. Each module will add a 1ms of delay so sometimes triggers will reach their destinations at different times which might cause issues. It's nothing to be concerned about, most of the time, but it's useful to know. Cheers!
Interesting ideas ;)
Cheers!
The first song please finish it !!! It is so good! Or the save file i love it ❤️
I haven't used the comparator approach yet, but it's something I'll try. I like using bernoulli switches to control gates a lot. I also like adding chord changes using re-win scenes which gives a sense of controlled movement. Even if you run the voices from a sequence, messing with the gates through Bernoulli switches and tailoring the envelopes, you can get some nice effects and some order within the chaos. I used this last week for a patch called SpaceFilters: th-cam.com/video/Gl6r6h_aUEw/w-d-xo.html that I used as the backing for the track Spacewave: th-cam.com/video/0-jio7uNTvc/w-d-xo.html
Hey, wow, nice music!
Thank you
Cheers!
Very helpful. Thanks for making this. Couple questions. Is it possible to add varying gate lengths and accents? Making the melody / rhythm more expressive?
Cheers! And yes, you can use something like DGate from BogAudio and modulate\sequence the gate length. For accents, you can use an additional VCA, or a filter, or both, and modulate\sequence them for adding accents.
Great video once again! I was wondering how you get a favourites tab in VCV?
Thanks! There's the MB module from Stoermelder that has this built in. Have a look here - library.vcvrack.com/Stoermelder-P1
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks buddy!
I understand that this video is about more broad definition of "Genretative Rythms" but after watching videos with VCV tracks on yt for a while, i feel like a lot of people missing out on Seeds of Change module. How you can create generative random sequences of melodies, gates or trigs, and then loop it. Plus it is already have attenuverters and CVs on every output and expanders with even more outputs. This module have been heart of so many patches, but I didn't realy have seen any big VCV creators talk about it. It is not like Frozen Wasteland is small obscure collection and i just don't understand why. Sorry, just needed to vent!
Are the Stoermelder Plugins still available? I cannot add them via the VCV library?
Yeah, they're not in the library for now... Have a look here -
github.com/stoermelder/vcvrack-packone/releases/tag/Nightly
I'd previously only come across Bernoulli in the context of fluid dynamics. I presume in this context it's more to do with his work in random probabilities. As I'm interested in more ambient type stuff I like the association with fluid movement.
That's a nice idea, music as a fluid...
The fluid Bernoulli is Daniel, who was the nephew of Jacob Bernoulli. Jacob wrote one of the first books on probability, the Ars Conjectandi, so the Bernoulli gate used here is named after him.
@@ZetaCarinae Aah. Thank you. That makes sense. They don't seem directly related areas of study. I studied electronic engineering and fluid dynamics was one of our general engineering subjects. The probability Bernoulli I only came across after googling when I watched this TH-cam programme. Thanks for the history!
@@OmriCohen-Music Thanks for your great content Omri. I haven't downloaded VCV yet but want to watch some more of your stuff first. It should save me a lot of time getting stuck in. Some of the best presented information on TH-cam and love your music.
May I ask What on-screen mouse utility program are you using? initially I thought It was done in post but your recent videos have real time mouse sketching right?
Yeah, it's called SwordSoft :)
The last stage of your clock divider section is driving me up the wall trying to figure it out. VCV's 4-input mixer, its delay panel and SEQ-3 sequencer got updated at some point and now look different and possibly have different outputs. i don't know if the SEQ 3 not having a Gate output is the cause, but i've tried setting absolutely everything else as close as i can in that section and all i get is a squelchy, toneless mess and can't figure out what the cause is.
Yeah, this might be confusing since everything looks different. Actually, you're right, the SEQ3, by default, will not output gates, but you can change this in the right click menu by choosing to pass through the clock. Is this solving the issue? Feel free to email me also, and I will try to help you with this.
@@OmriCohen-Music i might take another look at it soon, i did try a couple of your other tutorials and was getting good results, especially the Straus one running the chord generator through the arpeggiator
@@OmriCohen-Music I think that clock passthrough made a difference? It looks like i made a dog's breakfast out of it, i came back to load it up and i can see I tried running it through 3 other modules to have it punch out 8 note sequences of notes instead of the constant bass notes you ended up with. I reckon I'll put that one down and move onto the next chapter before I give myself a migraine again lol
Wait, what was making the length of Phrase Seq change like that in the comparator example?
Well, the PhraseSeq has a song mode that allows you to chain phrases so there's one phrase with a different length. It's quite a deep sequencer and can be super interesting to work with.
Generative GALOREEEEEEE!
total jedi
ok, this is epic
Noiceeee
Proper
I give up, 😅 !!
you have become the official vcv guru and i’m really interested in watching your videos, but recently i don’t, because the videos are simply too long! to me 10 to 15 min is the limit, unless i’m really into something. more than 20 min is a very rare thing to me. normally i’m watching youtube videos at night and long ones i just leave untouched.
if i was you, i would cut the videos into shorter episodes. i’m quite sure, that you would get more audience this way.
Hey, thanks so much for your feedback! I have to be honest, I also have difficulties watching long videos. I have so many still in my 'watch later' playlist I just can't seem to find time for. That said, I'm not so sure how I can shorten my videos, there's so much to go through. From experience, having multiple episodes is not working so well. But still, I will see if there's something I can do in the future.
Interesting, but not "generative". Nothing is being "generated" here. It doesn't go anywhere in any particular direction. It is just eternal slightly constrained randomness. Which is not "generation".
Generative in the context of music usually means constantly changing, infinite permutations, evolving, never exactly the same.
Steven Reich, Terry Riley, and Brian Eno are early examples.
Another term that's closely related is procedural. Developing an algorithm or process that generates the composition.
Modular synth is often considered generative music, especially when there's some random aspect of the process.