Mystery Leak Reveals Schoolboy Error
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2024
- This is a very common problem that keeps cropping up on Skill Builder.
Here is Joe's message:
Roger! Your advice saved our new build home and has probably avoided thousands £££ worth of damage.
Moved into a new build home 4 weeks ago and with the onset of colder weather, we began to use the heating.
Realizing that some of the radiators were cold to touch, they needed air bleeding, which I then re-pressured the system via the filling loop valve.
However, over the past week or so, it keep losing pressure. I re-pressured and the following day it would be zero bar again. It culminated with a leak tonight.
After watching your video and following your advice, I re-pressured, and checked the radiators and an en-suite radiator was leaking. Called out an emergency plumber.
They quickly diagnosed that the tradesperson who installed it drilled a screw through the pipe when installing the plastic plate/cover.
LEAKING inside the cavity wall over the past few weeks until the screw had given up, and then it leaked. If I hadn't of watched your video for advice (as advice from a new build developer is non-existent), this could have gone unnoticed for weeks/months.
Thank you very much! I've been following your channel for a while now, and I continue to watch your videos! I've attached photos of what happened.
Thanks so much! if I hadn't watched your video, it would have never led me to find this leak and poor workmanship!
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It never ceases to amaze me, if you wanted to drill a pipe smack bang in the centre it would always be off, yet if it’s by accident it’s always perfect!
I learnt this the hard way just recently haha
Same as. I saw that in microbore one time, perfectly central.
The law of sod!
Been there, done that........!
Yep 😎
Sounds like my house. The previous owners must have hired a cowboy plumber because I keep finding rudimentary errors, overly complex drains. It’s costing me a fortune to fix. I do some myself but time is a factor.
Also, you are my “ go to” source for information. I’m a Brit living in Montréal Canada. We have huge extremes of temperature and so I keep a close eye on pipe and heating systems.
Rodger I used cheap perfume from a pound shop to find a leak a couple of years ago, I got this tip from one of your you tube videos at the time. It still amazes people today when I tell them about how I located it. This advice from you really got me out of a hole, Thanks.
I don't know why people don't believe it. I have used it a number of times and it works. I am glad it worked for you.
@@SkillBuilder what you think of the tec7 leak sealer ( worked for me on 2/3 occasions. have you used this or similar product ? Maybe do a video on it if you haven't already
Had a problem like this in a house where someone had put a floorboard screw through a 22mm hot water pipe. The hot water was gravity fed and the screw sealed the hole well enough to hide the problem until the screw rusted away. Knowing something of history of the house we reckon it had lasted a good number of years before water appeared through the downstairs ceiling.
yep, exactally the same here except running under the bath... that was fun
We had similar - a nail through a 28mm pipe to the (gravity fed) boiler, likely done when the house was built 24 years ago and was fine until we pulled up the floor boards (and therefore pulled out the nail) to run some new cabling. Shows how good the inhibitor they used must have been for the nail to not rust away!
I used a similar cover product when replacing all my radiator pipes when I relocated and installed new plastic pipe, I created a manifold in the attic with stopcocks on every pipe so if there ever was a breach I cold isolate the offending pipe. I was very careful with screws and their placement. I have now only two radiators to replace with one to install and all will be re-piped to the manifold. Important to mark up the manifold as where each rad is too☺
I'm in a bungalow so much of the pipework was easy to replace.
I have much less of a problem with the pipe config, than I do with the fact they are still fitting small bore pipes in new builds, but then again they are fitting the smallest noddy radiator they can get away with... (usually)
in Bel-air california they put 3/8" restrictors on the water meters if you go over your threshold
Alright Rodger.Spent three years renovating my own house.I too am a skilled builder.Love your content been watching for years,picked up loads of tips that I now use!Turns out after 2 years of the completely new gas central heating system including underfloor through out the ground floor I am getting the dreaded pressure drop🙄... Presumably I have screwed in to a pipe somewhere literally got my gas man coming on Saturday to help narrow down where it is.Will defo be using this trick and see what happens!Thanx.Ill let you know how I get on.Please god it's upstairs and not the underfloor 🙏
Whenever I have floorboards up, I always mark with a black indelible pen, the position and depth of all pipes and wires, when I put the boards back and I always screw them, never nail.
I had the opposite problem with a combi-based central heating system - pressure creeping up over the weeks. One of the toppping-up loop taps was permanently open (because it was horribly inaccessible) and the other was weeping. Still, at least there wasn't any water getting into rooms or cavities that way round.
Having a 30 year old home with failing microbore joints that plumbers don't want to touch, it's a wonder to me that more systems don't leak. When we're finally forced to go to heat pumps, I reckon I'll just rip the whole lot out and go to ducted air-to-air instead. At least leaks in that don't soak your timbers, and you can fix them with tape.
If you are going heat pump you are very likely to need to repipe. It is also likely that you have plastic pipes on the system too and if they are retained with a heat pump the lower temperatures lead to biological growth that can bring the whole shebang to a halt.
Just go UFH with an electric flow 'boiler' or trench heaters.
It's him again! (Honestly just glad to see you still exist after fond BCF memories)
"When we're finally forced to go to heat pumps"
Really, wow so you think it is ok for someone to force these things on people?
Why not make up your own mind about how you want to heat your house.
One of the previous owners of my house has screwed straight through a electrical wiring PVC pipe, luckily the wires just moved over a bit inside the tube and there was never a shortcut. I kept that piece with the wires and screw as a reminder to be careful.
Those plastic pipes are a boon to the decorator - you can lift the rads off the wall and lay them flat on the 10 litre paint pot you've set in front, while tidying up and neatly painting 'behind' the rads.
That’s deliberate. Plenty of people on site do that kind of thing. I’ve seen joists thrown down drainage pipes,to cause problems in the future.
Indeed. Our new house the main drain blocked. The builders dug up the patio and the drain was blocked with tile fixing cement. Curiously the contractor had been laid off some months before completion
I agree that some things cant have happened by accident. My house was built in 1989 and we had a persistent problem with the bathroom sink blocking up. I did a complete bathroom makeover last year and when I cut the sink waste pipe I found a 6 inch piece of half inch light steel pipe which had white pvc coatinghad been dropped down the pipe before it was cemented together .I think its a piece of wardrobe railing but there is nothing like it anywhere in the house.Accident my eye
Thank you! I've been telling people this for years, and people tend not to believe me! I was called to a blocked washing machine 40mm pipe in a flat just six months old - customer said water wasn't getting away. Eventually cut the pipe right by the boss strap and got a torch. Inside was a 4" fence post. I couldn't believe it. Must have been the labourer's last day or a disgruntled contractor.
Yep! I used to work on big sites for the big volume builders and a lot of the trades were on peanut money. And they didn't give a toss and got up to all sorts. One trade got chucked off but before he did went into loads of properties and cut wires under the floor, broke pipework under the floor, chucked rubble down the manhole. He was pissed at something.
Many years ago, well before I had common sense, my mum asked me to fix her creaky floorboards. Easy fix, two quick nails.
A day later I was sitting in her dining room when water began to drip from her light fitting. A plumber was called out and he repaired the damaged central heating pipe in the room above. My two nails went straight through the middle of a copper pipe running through the joist I had hammered into.
Huge lesson learned and my common sense was topped up. 🥴
You are brilliant! Very refreshing information and motivating!
Re the damp chimney, it looks odds on that it’s a leak a the back of the chimney! Also a good idea to check the benching ie top where the chimney pots are!
Great videos Shaun
My last 2 houses I have come up from under the floor channelled in the wall with 15mm as a sleeve to behind rad, then pushed 10mm thru so changing the 10mm if you have any probs is a doddle. I have still run 15mm circuit round and then teed off to 10mm. Never used the manifolds yet and run off to each rad in 10mm, maybe next time. Oh and pipes come up vertical just near bottom of rad so I can circle the 10mm round and down to valves, leave a bit of a coil if u like so u can lift rad off an forward 6 inch onto 2 blocks to clean or decorate behind with ease.
if you want your dog to find the leak, i find putting gravy into the system works well 🤣
GREAT VIDEO it happened to me i fitted new flooring boards in the dinning room and 15 years later the boiler was loosing pressure and it turned out i had screwed right in to one off the pipes and it was my sons jumping around playing table tennis in the dinning that must have loosened it up so it started leaking
it took ages to find i had been under floor boards even returning the flow and return on them shelf to see if it was the boiler leaking and chopping rads out etc
just a relief to find it and i sorted it in the end
as always another great video roger thanks again
What do you think about all those new build snagging issues. Windows and walls totally out of plumb. Weep vents missing. Everything so cheap but the houses selling at premium.
Go watch the channel 'new home quality control'. Crazy what some of these developers try to get away with.
I had a en-suite to fit out. Removed the old skirting which would of been the original fitting for over 15 years. Soon as I removed the length of skirting I got wet!!! A paslode pin had been fired straight through the feed pipe to the radiator. Amazing how long it had been in bedded in the pipe and still had a seal 😉
Hi Roger. You might find the leak was worse when the heating was on and pipes were therefore hot. Possibly when the heating was off and pipes were cold it didn’t leak as much or maybe not at all ?
Mark
Good point
I ran my central heating by running a 22mm through the loft or floor joists. Then connected a 10 mm system via 22mm to 10mm T's but ran that 10 mm through a 15mm pipe hidden in the walls or under the dot and dab plaster board. Less heat loss in the walls and it makes the whole system reparable by simply withdrawing the 10mm pipe from the 15mm pipe. NO hacking or damaging walls if there was a problem. That makes the system very efficient as less water for the boiler to heat. It heats up faster as well. It works very well but you do get that pipe visible under the rad. This repair was visible but IF it was hidden, a repair could have been made by running that 10mmm down that damaged 15mm pipe. All that would be needed was new rad connectors for the 10mm fittings.
So, new build (ish) in this vid with micro bore pipe, still being fitted to new builds - next combi / system boiler change all that micro bore throughout the huse will have to come out, new 15mm pipe work throughout, fully lagged / insulated behind the plasterboard that isn’t gapped behind enough for the insulation. Throughout the whole house. Its now the law you know. And let’s not forget all the rads will have to be re sized bigger, so changed as well. All in the name of heat pump prep at your cost. And all you wanted was a new gas boiler
You are so right
Those pipes look so attractive with the peeling paint
I work for the water board and have inspected new build sites on executive type builds and the quality of the plumbing is shite. Some Prat put in a PRV that restricted the supply and when I told him to remove it the flow was a lot better. Put it in for no reason other than, “it’s what I’ve always done”.
When using those back boxes the pipes should come down vertical to them. One obviously didn't in this case for the screw to go through it. Most sparks have this right but I see plumbers making this mistake all the time.
Great video as usual, and funny guidance to put a smelly fragrance (mercaptan maybe lol) into the water to detect the leak
always worthwhile having a listen 👍
The plumber who did the repair may have been able to pull some slack in the pipe down, which would explain why the screw hole looked like it was in strange place.
Good point
Just had a small job done at home that involved drilling through the wall to the outside. The lads doing it asked if there was anything in the wall that they should know about and I told them that the plastic radiator pipes ran up one or the other side of the window. These plastic pipes cannot be detected so they drilled the main hole very carefully with no problem. Then the two holes for the fixings and managed to hit both pipes. I must stress they were very carefull but sods law and all that. Managed to cut out the plasterboard and get a couple of connectors on before too much leakage. How are we supposed to know where they are? Can a metal filament not be inbedded in the pipe at manufacture? I later found out that if the heating is on you can feel the heat from the pipes through the plasterboard on an external wall so maybe a little giveaway.
It is very easy to find hot pipes in a wall but too late now. There are also pipes with an aluminium layer that might or might not be picked up with a detector. It is not reliable. An infra red camera works very well.
Neighbour rushed to my house . She had put a nail thru floorboard into pipe, water coming thru ceiling below.
Asked her for the nail. Handed me a six inch nail! Hammered it back in the hole, leak stopped. Call the plumber.
Seeing theres a metal backbox & not a manthorpe back plate to keep the pipes aligned and away from the cover plate holes, not surprising . Yeehaaa 🤠
More than anything, I still can't believe installers (developers, builders, heating technicians) are still putting radiators in...and on microbore!
What a mess, absolutely shocking standard of work in these places, doesn't anyone have any pride in their work anymore 🤷♂️
I had an elderly customer one time that asked me to do some work on the floorboards. I asked him if there was any pipes under a particular area where I needed to put some screws through to tighten down the boards, he said no....
Reads like the book cover synopsis of a plumbing horror story.
You should of checked
@dave farmery To check, I'd have had to rip up all the floorboards. He assured me he'd worked on the area before, and there would be no issues.
@@davefarmery8180 He was wrong.
@@damionlee7658 The horror story ensued..
Imagine my surprise seeing Roger on GB News this morning 😂
I've done it with copper pipe under floor boards🫣 and had just put the tips of a couple of screws in pipes and it never showed a leak for a few months which came through the ceiling around a light fitting dripping on the new kitchen floor, she was not amused! but luckily caught it just in time and repaired the pipes, so no damage..🙄😊
What they tend to do with newbuilds these days is aim for a low standard and fail to achieve it.
And they look like they were built in the 1940s.
I'm rather fond of external pipes.
This new technique of putting the pipes behind the rads looks terrible and only done to save time. Wouldn't get away with it in my house. Thanks for the video.
Bought a new build a few years ago. Looked ok until after a year when paint was peeling, cracks appearing in drywall, under stair wood panels warping, window sills cracking. Worst workmanship I’ve ever seen in the UK. Honestly, I’ve worked on building sites all over the world, some places considered 3 world countries and i could say the difference was marginal. What has happened to the building trade in the UK. There are great tradesmen out there but there are some sh*t ones too. Doesn’t help when developers cut the arse out of budgets to maximise profits either.
Run to the bottom on first site, and now increasingly domestic work, to.
Cheap and fast is all people usually want.
Thats an interesting way to find a leak, how much smelly stuff do you put in your heating system, do you have drain down and fill or just a shot glass full, my system needs topping up every couple of months and its annoying because its in the loft
Just chuck some pine disinfectant in and have a sniff around. It works for me.
"Give the dog a chocolate-treat" - Roger Bisby, January 2023. Why, Roger, why? What did that poor dog do to you? 4:06
You can get doggie chocs, you know.
@@jimskirtt5717 Chocolate is widely acknowledged to be toxic for dogs. Nevertheless, may pet-owners don't seem to be aware of this. Even if there is an exotic dog-treat making wordplay on "chocs" it seems ill advised to bring people (i.e. the general public) to the idea of feeding chocolate to dogs.
@@AdityaMehendale
I know. Elsewhere here I state that doggie chocs are made using carob.
Exact thing happened to me only it was panel pin securing boards prior to cushion floor install.
Hi Roger, another great video and info, I have a pressure loss problem on my heating combi system 0.5bar in about a week, Is it save to put Zeflora or Detol in the combi system as could it ruin the boiler. How much would you recommend and would you have to flush out the system once fixed for the SENTINEL
X100 Central Heating Protector & Inhibitor
Check around the threads and valves fitted to the rads. Sometimes it can be a tiny leak that gets evaporated by the heat of the rad before it leaves staining signs.
Hi Roger
Excellent video
I don't have a dog will my Mrs do as they are quite similar in behaviour?
For the chimney I would remove the entire chimney alltogether completely cover the hole in new roof cladding top to bottom. That would fix the leak. Then rebuild the chimney completely. Brick biscuit glued on 18 thick fibrous cement 40 x 40 galv RHS steel frame. To exact same dimensions with matching brick buscuits.
So the roof only has 4 penetrations. The four RHS posts. All new perimeter flashing. At the Back it has that pointy flashing. Can’t remember the name. Any moisture getting through the buscuits won’t enter the building.
Big job high costs. I have built 4 tall brick chimneys in Christchurch New Zealand. Like I just described. In chch we don’t have brick chimneys cause they all come down in the earthquakes. But this detail was approved by council. The result looks perfect. And are some of the only tall brick chimneys in Christchurch. I didn’t build them I designed them.
Should have used decra, britmet
or if you fancy chancing it at least use a profiled tile with 125mm lap use procter roof shield and double felt it, and get a lead welding plumber to flash propper, then pray.
In a mate’s house he had constant loss of pressure in gas boiler. After a lot of fruitless investigations the housing association replaced the boiler. For another year there was still a constant loss of pressure. The cause was found when the plaster in the hallway started to blister beside the radiator, turned out there was a leak in a pipe under the floor all along. 😂
Typical housing association, didn’t fix the issue but just wasted money instead
@@user-te1le7ck6b This particular one is a disaster. In the same house they had a leak in the upstairs bathroom, the H.A. plumber said there was no leak. A few weeks later the toilet sank into the floor when the chipboard floor gave way. Turns out the builder had not even used moisture resistant boards so it just crumbled. They then sent out two clowns to replace the floor and one put his foot through the kitchen ceiling. After this was fixed my mate was taking a shower and it turned out the bath was not secured to the wall properly, he ended up getting his own plumber to fix it as he didn’t want and more bodge jobs. All this is in a house that’s only 20 years old. 😂
@@jimh4072 dont get me started currently taking legal action against my local council as they have failed to fix a leaking roof for 4+ months and counting whilst they find the original contracter for a in warranty repair , problem is no one knows who it was , fckin clowns the lot of them , soon be on me if i didnt pay my bills though
Important health and safety notice: great idea about getting the dog to find the leak, please don't give your dog chocolate as it will kill the dog! 🍫🐶☠
I didn't know that. I have seen those choc treats but maybe choc is not short for chocolate
@@SkillBuilder
IT IS still chocolate. It uses carob rather than theobromine.
I was going to say the same.
Also onions, garlic, grapes, raisins, avocado, and macadamia nuts. They're all fine for humans but poisonous to dogs.
Hi Roger. Seen a few videos where you mention adding the smell to the water to detect a leak. Do you know which video (if any) you show how to do this, as I assume its a closed system so not sure how you'd do that? Thanks!
Looks like the two pipes are going through the 20mm knockouts of a metal electrical back box . Even if there are grommets in the holes is this acceptable to the building regs.? Agree with you Roger it looks horrible the way it's been done.
I spotted that too. Given the shoddyness of the rest, there's no way grommets are in the back box, as to whether it should be used, I certainly wouldn't. Don't know how many expansion/contraction cycles it would take the box to gnaw through the Hep, probably longer than the O rings in the fittings will last... Indicative of price over quality.
Skirting join is shoddy too ffs
Building regs? This is NHBC self certification, it will never be inspected by building control, so why bother to do the job properly if it can be done cheaply?
Great show bloat always love them keep up the good work
I had a combi boiler, the one with the rabbit ears, 19 years it kept losing pressure, never could find the damn thing.
I once repaired a leak coming through a kitchen ceiling from the bathroom above because the guy who refitted the floorboard in the bathroom used screws that were far too long and screwed into the joist and through the shower waste which was running perpendicular to and through the ceiling joists. I was informed that the bathroom had been installed about 10 years previously and the leak only started recently because the screw had finally rusted sufficiently to deteriorate the metal and allow some seepage. Obviously , being a gravity flow pipe and not a pressurised one it took years to occur. Was a very easy fix of the pipe but required a whole new kitchen ceiling.
You'd think they'd run it in copper where it's seen, that's rough. Is that normal practice now?
Good luck to the plumbers of the future dealing with o ring leaks from the hundreds of plastic push fit joints under floors and in walls of todays new builds..
I've just done a whole house refurb in plastic. Great, so easy....but Leaves me feeling uneasy for the longevity. ... like you. But then I've had copper pinhole within 10 years ..
the heating pipe joints barely last until the homes are handed over to the clients on my site,its incredible these products were sanctioned at all,rubbish
I've been putting plastic pushfit in ever since it came out. I have even used the Hunter stuff that you glued together. It's been superb. My house was completely refitted 17 years ago with pushfit everywhere...not one leak...and all joints are above floor. In my 48 year career, I've had two pushfit joints leak, and one of them was my fault - and both showed up immediately. Seriously, Stevie, they are fine.
I looks like a bodge job done by unskilled would be plumber.
I shot a 2", 18 gauge nail thru a 1/2 copper pipe and it didn't leak for over a year. We saw some water drops and there it was. I shouldn't have used such long nails.
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Amazes me that people buy these houses, what an absolute pile of crap, I’ve been in the trade for 25 years and I’d be ashamed to leave a property with finishes like that, thrown together for maximum profit, it’s all about the speed of which there finished now with no thought of what it looks like. I’d never buy a new build property, would rather build my own.
On a visit to my mother's house I noticed water dripping onto th top of the tv ( the big boxy ones) I checked up in the box room and there was a screw in an old floor board that dad repaired months previous .. it waited to rust before it leaked .
It is amazing how long it can take before it leaks
@@SkillBuilder but once she goes theres no stopping her till shes fixed .. keeps us busy 😉
"Anything that can go wrong, WILL go wrong"...
Murphys Law...😎👍☘🍺
As a pest controller, i have seen the metal braided hoses gnawed through by mice, i have seen these god-awful plastic "kwik-fit" pipes and joints gnawed by both rats and mice but i have rarely (twice perhaps in 15 years) seen soldered copper pipe gnawed. Ergo, when i redid my plumbing it was all copper and leaded solder. Don't use those plastic toys.
Thank you so much for you channel I have learnt so much
Glad to help
I think it looks better the old fashioned way with the copper pipe coming out from the floor or even behind the skirting board. The council way around here is to put a large block of trunking above the skirting board and it looks horrendous!
Not for me, to me it looks like a bodge.
This is why you should never queue behind Plumbers at the Trade Counter
“Been watching skillbuilder for years “ - so he got a plumber out 😂
Whats the idea of that box with the rubber seals again?
Surely having the pipes coming through the wall right under where they are needed using L brackets are easy to do, easy to seal, look better, etc.. right behind the radiator is so ugly!
Yeah those pipes look ugly 🤮
What an absolute shower of an install!!!
The installation was done by a drip.
The screw rusting gave it away. Luckily.
Should have used stainless steel, probably would have lasted years without any problems at all.
beijingbond
I think the rust was coming from that electrical backbox. They have hardly any galvanising.
Pipes and screws go together like dogs and chocolate, they don’t!
Mmmm very good mr bid by , but how on earth did this pass an air test on the system ? Clearly very little leakage as the screw sealed the hole partly ? That’s an absolute shocking method design in a modern house ? As a carpenter of 40 years I’m flabbergasted at the poor quality of bodgery out there ? Something has to be done ?
Invention idea, pushfit bracket that attaches to the wall like that bracket in video, yet you can easily pull the pipes out to remove rad.
Great idea
...or don't fit rads! Many a new home has been spoilt by chunks of white metal on the walls and pipes everywhere.
FYI, it is clear which screw it was. The plumber has used the slack in the pipes to pull them down for the purposes of the photo. It was the top right screw that had gone through the pipe. Easy enough to do and a good way to avoid doing it again is just to use a zip tie to keep the pipes together and away from the top left and right screw when refitting. And before anyone asks i am trained as a plumber (though don't do it anymore except for family and freinds).
Why dont they turn it around by 90° straight into the wall. The 90s house I had featured this.
So why is it rusty. Is it within the central heating systems. Or the leak is onto something metallic. System should have an inhibitor in it.
The rust is coming from the metal back box. Have another look at the photograph
Has a leak in our kitchen ceiling, some clown shoe put a circular saw through a 22mm pipe doing the bathroom years back and used solder to bodge it up... they were minutes away from repairing it properly, but took the option that left only a driveway guarantee..
I had similar; plumber 30 years ago cut floorboard after installing 22mm pipe under and grazed the pipe. 30 years later the thinned pipe wall gave way....
@alanvcraig the potential destruction due to laziness or poor workmanship is huge... 30 years says it was decent old copper, the new stuff wouldn't last 30 days..
My home was built 11 years ago and has an unvented CH system that loses 0.5 bar over 30 months which has never worsened. There are no obvious leaks or damp spots, so I wonder what else might cause this?
Check around the threads and valves fitted to the rads. Sometimes it can be a tiny leak that gets evaporated by the heat of the rad before it leaves staining signs.
@@JuxZeil Thank you, I'll take your advice.
Excellent!
This is the stuff of nightmares!!!
Looks grim.
Much prefer copper.
You can still screw through a pipe but it looks a lot better.
🤣
And now he has a mould problem.
Wow screwing through a pipe like that, amazing lack of concentration lol.
Nice desk Rog
State of that !!. I'd never buy a new build
Chocolate is toxic for dogs even in small quantities , not a suitable reward. Videos are brilliant thank you
Question.....EPCs! Worth the paper they're printed on???
you have to have them if you are selling so, like most bits of paper we accumulate, they make very little difference.
@@SkillBuilder Total joke, not worth the paper they're printed on!
why use plastic piping? and not nice copper?
That cover plate seemed to be no more than an aesthetic.
Don’t give dogs chocolate rog👊
deadlines = mistakes
one might say - they screwed up...
The dog may be of use doing the sniffing and I like a bit of humour but please do not give it a chocolate treat as you suggested. Chocolate can be deadly for a dog!
remind me not to buy a newbuild anytime soon.
I might be alone here, but I hate that quick-connect PVC piping and fittings. They don't have the longevity that traditional plumbing does because of heat cycling.
Also...NO SERVICE VALVES TO ISOLATE THE RAD!?! {facepalm}
I wouldn’t buy a house with that type of pipe work. Awful