I don't believe intonation on evertune is easy. In fact it changes depending on how far you're in zone 2. When you turn the tuner the note is the same, but intonation changes.
it's by far my favourite bridge to intonate but I always play right next to the end of zone 2 soo I can bend so I've never had a problem, no more tradeoffs between low and high neck intonation bc of the extra bend from the slight bow of the neck!
My objection to the Evertune is that using light tension (8s with 25.5" scale length) requires spending 300 FUCKING DOLLARS on replacement tension modules, almost the same cost as the bridge itself. Hardtails for life!
@@andrefludd i don't think he is using the term intonation correctly. if the note doesn't change, the intonation can't change. the evertune is a crappy bridge for anyone who wants subtlety, differ the vibrato, slight bends, expressive playing. even jazz guys like to use a little vibrato on chords and some longer notes. that is why it's not popular with them. metal guys who solo don't have use for them either. it is basically only made for metal rhythm players.
I Had a VGS 6 string with an Evertune and TT Frets.It was like playing a Piano.Set up the G-B-E to bend.I've been playing heavy handed forever.Evertune worked like a Champ for me.I Want another guitar like that 1.
Most guitar inovations are adopted first by metal musicians. Most other types of musicians are scared of new tech, either for hipster reasons or because they think others will judge them for not having a beat up 60s strat
I'm way more of a rock than a jazz player, so I set my Evertune guitars up so that the low E and A strings are down lower in Zone 2 where they don't bend, and I can do my chugga-chuggas all day long without getting that Djenty sharpening of the note when I dig in. The rest of the strings, I keep at the top of Zone 2 so I can bend when I want, but the rest of the time everything is extremely stable. I've also never been a fan of tremolo bars, so I'm not missing out on anything using Evertune.
Great video Andre. Little tip for getting better bend/vibrato responsiveness: Hook your finger under the string you're setting up, somewhere near the pickups and pull on it like you're stretching a new string. You can hear the metal tick of the saddle hitting the end of zone 2 and stopping, if you can't, pull a little faster on the string. If you tune up that string right to the point where the sound goes away when you pull on it, it will be perfectly at the end of zone 3 for maximum bend response.
Love your video's! They got me back into diciplined practice. Playing every day. Now with a bigger focus on posture, so I can hopefully play guitar for the rest of my life without issues. So thanks for that
Great tone Andre. You always have a great take on guitar gear and I really like how you tend to use slightly out there or less mainstream guitars. I don't even know what that orange guitar in your video was but it looked super cool. More Jazz on "Metal" guitars please.
i’d love a telecaster with an ever tune, just imagine how stable the tuning would be, unfortunately i don’t have the money to buy a tele, an evertune and a setup, so for now i’ll just wait
Nice that you point out how this is mostly used for metal players, more specifically metal Rhythmic players since most of the time you'll be playing fast and intricate parts and honestly, not a lot if any bending or vibrato simply because if you listen to most modern metal songs there is literally no time to play those nuances when you're playing a blur of palm muting, alternate picking, tapping, etc. Pretty fast or just want to lay back with a heavy palm mute pattern to make some room for the vocals and such. So in that context this might be the perfect bridge since it's basically a fixed bridge/hard tail but better in almost every way.
EverTune is great for metal, but it is absolutely not "mostly used for metal." Dwight Yoakam, Steve Stevens, Jay Graydon, Blink-182, Jerry McPherson, and Steve Miller are all big EverTune users.
I own an Evertune guitar and I whish I had one on all my guitars. For bending you need to be right on the upper edge of zone 2. With that setup, there's not much difference from a normal guitar.
@@andrefluddThere's a few details worth mentioning. As you tune up (with the hex key) to the edge of zone 2-3 you will all the time get to zone 3. You then need to use the guitar tuners to go down to the edge. A back and forth between the hex key and the guitar tuners. This may sound annoying but after this initial setup the guitar will stay in tune and you won't need to do this again. Another detail worth mentioning: zone 2 is not perfectly flat. From the edge of 1-2 to the edge of 2-3 you will have a ~15 cents difference. But this is to be expected from a mechanical system.
I get frustrated with the "null zone" when bending notes on my Evertune. I like subtle bends, and like you said, it's frustrating. The other thing on my particular guitar is that the Evertune just sucks the sustain out of the notes. There is some resonance thing going on and there is no sustain at all. Since I only have a sample size of one, I don't know if this is common on Evertune bridges.
If you live right on the cusp of where Zone 2 goes into Zone 3, bends and vibrato will be 99% like on a "normal" guitar. For the system to do its job, there needs to be a subtle bit of "latency," but it can be very subtle. As for the difference in resonance, you're not wrong. There are a lot of moving parts in the bridge, so it will not resonate like a hardtail. For me the benefits far outweigh that, but every player needs to decide for themselves.
I’ve been spending the last 2 months working on a video describing all the vibrato budges 😂. I love your idea though! Now the question is, how does one acquire that many unique guitars
I wonder if a 12 string Evertune would be possible. I'm just a hobbyist but everything I hear about 12 strings boils down to frustrating to keep in tune
The vibrato definitely visually looks like you have to work way harder to get any significant width Also you can kinda just hear how the vibrato sounds very weak despite the effort behind the bends Other than that its not so bad
The key is to get right at the point where Zone 2 crosses over into Zone 3. Then bends and vibrato react 99% like a non-EverTune guitar. Here's a demo video I did that shows bends and vibrato. It definitely works just fine. th-cam.com/video/AmMBcNECNVc/w-d-xo.html
Dude, you're so fussy! And I like it! The guitar community needs more fussy guitarists enlightening the companies to design better guitars. Edit: by the way there is something a bit off with Evertunes that I can't get my head around. It sounds a bit unnatural maybe because everything sounds so perfect. I don't have experience with these bridges but I feel attracted to it due to tuning problems frustrations. I am happy you say it feels similair to floating bridges. That way I can imagine a bit how it would play.
My playing style tends to change based on whether I have a tremolo or not -- if the guitar has one, why not use it? This doesn't sound like so much of a middle ground between fixed/vibrato as it is applying a floating style solution to the tuning issue. Does that sound right?
Yes. It’s using a similar spring technology found in floating bridges to stabilize the strings. Of course, in function it’s nothing like a floating bridge.
I owned a Solar 8 string with an Evertune and compared to my Ibanez RG-8 I don't like it. You need more force to do bends and Vibrato, and when I try a 1 and half bend the strings breaks on the Evertune guitar. Now it's collecting dust in the closet.
That's simply not true. You can bend and apply vibrato on an EverTune-eqipped guitar very easily. You just need to be at the point where Zone 2 crosses over into Zone 3, called the Bend Stop.@@louiscyfer6944
I don't believe intonation on evertune is easy. In fact it changes depending on how far you're in zone 2. When you turn the tuner the note is the same, but intonation changes.
It was easy for me, but hey, everyone is different.
it's by far my favourite bridge to intonate but I always play right next to the end of zone 2 soo I can bend so I've never had a problem, no more tradeoffs between low and high neck intonation bc of the extra bend from the slight bow of the neck!
My objection to the Evertune is that using light tension (8s with 25.5" scale length) requires spending 300 FUCKING DOLLARS on replacement tension modules, almost the same cost as the bridge itself. Hardtails for life!
the intonation doesn't change, how the spring interacts with the pressure changes.
@@andrefludd i don't think he is using the term intonation correctly. if the note doesn't change, the intonation can't change. the evertune is a crappy bridge for anyone who wants subtlety, differ the vibrato, slight bends, expressive playing. even jazz guys like to use a little vibrato on chords and some longer notes. that is why it's not popular with them. metal guys who solo don't have use for them either. it is basically only made for metal rhythm players.
Babe wake up, new Dr. Fludd video dropped
@@icecreamforcrowhurst absolutely
I Had a VGS 6 string with an Evertune and TT Frets.It was like playing a Piano.Set up the G-B-E to bend.I've been playing heavy handed forever.Evertune worked like a Champ for me.I Want another guitar like that 1.
Most guitar inovations are adopted first by metal musicians. Most other types of musicians are scared of new tech, either for hipster reasons or because they think others will judge them for not having a beat up 60s strat
I'm way more of a rock than a jazz player, so I set my Evertune guitars up so that the low E and A strings are down lower in Zone 2 where they don't bend, and I can do my chugga-chuggas all day long without getting that Djenty sharpening of the note when I dig in. The rest of the strings, I keep at the top of Zone 2 so I can bend when I want, but the rest of the time everything is extremely stable. I've also never been a fan of tremolo bars, so I'm not missing out on anything using Evertune.
Great video Andre. Little tip for getting better bend/vibrato responsiveness: Hook your finger under the string you're setting up, somewhere near the pickups and pull on it like you're stretching a new string. You can hear the metal tick of the saddle hitting the end of zone 2 and stopping, if you can't, pull a little faster on the string. If you tune up that string right to the point where the sound goes away when you pull on it, it will be perfectly at the end of zone 3 for maximum bend response.
The Rick toone in the back looking delish ngl
Oh wait, it's the orange slice lookin ass guitar!
I thought I recognized it from somewhere
Love your video's!
They got me back into diciplined practice. Playing every day.
Now with a bigger focus on posture, so I can hopefully play guitar for the rest of my life without issues.
So thanks for that
Glad to hear it!
Great tone Andre. You always have a great take on guitar gear and I really like how you tend to use slightly out there or less mainstream guitars. I don't even know what that orange guitar in your video was but it looked super cool. More Jazz on "Metal" guitars please.
Yeah, I love the idea of an orange guitar which looks like an orange slice.
I was thinking of one because every time I pick up my guitar its 1/8 step sharp or flat depending on whether the HVAC system kicked on or not
Wow, That Aviator sounds great and your jazz playing is lovely and professional as always.
Solid inside knowledge,.. on the Jazz blues. I actually learned something.
The vibrato issue is a feel thing. We are used to the feeling of a fixed bridge. But you get used to it. Eventually a fixed bridge feels weird.
I'd love to hear more about that amazing guitar! If you dont already have a video with it
6:31 and you people complained Parker headstocks are ugly...
Promise to be nice when that video drops 😂. It really is a sick guitar
🤣
i’d love a telecaster with an ever tune, just imagine how stable the tuning would be, unfortunately i don’t have the money to buy a tele, an evertune and a setup, so for now i’ll just wait
Nice that you point out how this is mostly used for metal players, more specifically metal Rhythmic players since most of the time you'll be playing fast and intricate parts and honestly, not a lot if any bending or vibrato simply because if you listen to most modern metal songs there is literally no time to play those nuances when you're playing a blur of palm muting, alternate picking, tapping, etc. Pretty fast or just want to lay back with a heavy palm mute pattern to make some room for the vocals and such.
So in that context this might be the perfect bridge since it's basically a fixed bridge/hard tail but better in almost every way.
EverTune is great for metal, but it is absolutely not "mostly used for metal." Dwight Yoakam, Steve Stevens, Jay Graydon, Blink-182, Jerry McPherson, and Steve Miller are all big EverTune users.
I own an Evertune guitar and I whish I had one on all my guitars. For bending you need to be right on the upper edge of zone 2. With that setup, there's not much difference from a normal guitar.
Maybe I can nail it better after I spend more time with it
@@andrefluddThere's a few details worth mentioning. As you tune up (with the hex key) to the edge of zone 2-3 you will all the time get to zone 3. You then need to use the guitar tuners to go down to the edge. A back and forth between the hex key and the guitar tuners. This may sound annoying but after this initial setup the guitar will stay in tune and you won't need to do this again.
Another detail worth mentioning: zone 2 is not perfectly flat. From the edge of 1-2 to the edge of 2-3 you will have a ~15 cents difference. But this is to be expected from a mechanical system.
I get frustrated with the "null zone" when bending notes on my Evertune. I like subtle bends, and like you said, it's frustrating. The other thing on my particular guitar is that the Evertune just sucks the sustain out of the notes. There is some resonance thing going on and there is no sustain at all. Since I only have a sample size of one, I don't know if this is common on Evertune bridges.
If you live right on the cusp of where Zone 2 goes into Zone 3, bends and vibrato will be 99% like on a "normal" guitar. For the system to do its job, there needs to be a subtle bit of "latency," but it can be very subtle. As for the difference in resonance, you're not wrong. There are a lot of moving parts in the bridge, so it will not resonate like a hardtail. For me the benefits far outweigh that, but every player needs to decide for themselves.
Andre we need a super long video explaining all the offset and weird shape guitar like a Jazzmaster a Flying V a firebird a warlock and etc etc
I’ve been spending the last 2 months working on a video describing all the vibrato budges 😂. I love your idea though! Now the question is, how does one acquire that many unique guitars
Andre, what kind of pickups do you have on your Warbird? Quite curious to know!
Will there be a video about that Rick Toone to the left?
This weekend!
the video of glenn carrying around his new guitar by the strings and strumming it, and it staying in tune, that's kinda impressive.
glenn is a hack, he can barely play guitar. the evertune is made exactly for ham fisted butchers of the guitar like him.
Im a metal player Id love to play around with an evertune.
I wonder if a 12 string Evertune would be possible. I'm just a hobbyist but everything I hear about 12 strings boils down to frustrating to keep in tune
The vibrato definitely visually looks like you have to work way harder to get any significant width
Also you can kinda just hear how the vibrato sounds very weak despite the effort behind the bends
Other than that its not so bad
Yea. when I was recording it I thought a lot more was going on. When I went to edit the video I realized this isn’t the vibrato I usually go for.
The key is to get right at the point where Zone 2 crosses over into Zone 3. Then bends and vibrato react 99% like a non-EverTune guitar. Here's a demo video I did that shows bends and vibrato. It definitely works just fine. th-cam.com/video/AmMBcNECNVc/w-d-xo.html
I don't get it, how do you play music without chugging?
The secret is I chug all the time, I just don’t show anyone 😉
@@andrefludd Sly goose.
Dude, you're so fussy!
And I like it!
The guitar community needs more fussy guitarists enlightening the companies to design better guitars.
Edit: by the way there is something a bit off with Evertunes that I can't get my head around. It sounds a bit unnatural maybe because everything sounds so perfect. I don't have experience with these bridges but I feel attracted to it due to tuning problems frustrations. I am happy you say it feels similair to floating bridges. That way I can imagine a bit how it would play.
What is the orange guitar? That thing is amazing.
Spearfish by Rick Toone. Dedicated video coming soon
My playing style tends to change based on whether I have a tremolo or not -- if the guitar has one, why not use it? This doesn't sound like so much of a middle ground between fixed/vibrato as it is applying a floating style solution to the tuning issue. Does that sound right?
Yes. It’s using a similar spring technology found in floating bridges to stabilize the strings. Of course, in function it’s nothing like a floating bridge.
I owned a Solar 8 string with an Evertune and compared to my Ibanez RG-8 I don't like it. You need more force to do bends and Vibrato, and when I try a 1 and half bend the strings breaks on the Evertune guitar. Now it's collecting dust in the closet.
why would you get an evertune if you want to bend. it is literally designed to counteract bending.
That's simply not true. You can bend and apply vibrato on an EverTune-eqipped guitar very easily. You just need to be at the point where Zone 2 crosses over into Zone 3, called the Bend Stop.@@louiscyfer6944
Im not here for the evertune I wanna know how that aviator is, not many people playing them but they have some super cool models!
It’s pretty dope. I talked about it on a Patreon exclusive. It won’t be getting a dedicated video but I hope to work with those guys in the future.
@@andrefludd that’s good to hear, really like what I’ve been seeing!
I think it's Chicken vs Egg. Not popular because it's not on most guitars. And since it's not popular, it's not on many guitars.
There's no reason for it not to work on jazz.
Agreed