Side note, I find it pretty cool that Mikasa is basically a child born by the combination of both the clans that opposed the king (asian+akerman), who couldn't be manipulated by him - so the most “free” clans/bloodlines. Basically she's the "freest"😂
Well I believe the Asian might have been 'infected' with the SoY. But it does not matter since Mikasa is born of Ackerman and that alone make her defiant against the FT other than her blood of the outside Paradis.
I also wonder if some people in the larger world who don't believe themselves to be Eldians actually turned out to be subject of Ymir from ancestors they had no knowledge of.
They probably did. That’s why Kyomi was talking about blood tests. I guess at least some turned out to be subjects of Ymir without even knowing themselves
@@MangaHorse I wonder though if the blood test is supposed to tell them "You're related to Ymir" or is it "You're related to King Fritz and other original Eldians aside from Ymir". If it's the first one then their ancestors either came from Maria, Rose and Sina. If it's the second then they didn't come from the three daughters but simply from King Fritz (who had other wives) or from the original Eldian tribe who enslaved Ymir's village.
You are really too nice my friend thank you so much! I’m really happy you enjoy my vids and I have more like it, especially about Mikasa I can physically and scientifically prove Mikasa 😅 I just hope I will still have people watching by the time I’ll make those videos 🤞
@@MangaHorse every video of yours is so sophisticated and enjoyable ro watch,I always learn new things from you, you are so underrated,so keep pushing forward!
IIRC, the first King Fritz had at least one wife before Ymir. I wouldn't be surprised if some (if not all) of the Eldian nobility came from that union. King Fritz always saw Ymir as his slave, so it makes sense that the Eldian nobility at the time would make sure they remained in power without their bloodline integrating with Ymir's. They benefitted from her power, without tainting themselves with "slave blood".
Yes! So you agree with me about the possibility of people from the Eldian clan not being Subjects of Ymir simply because their bloodline never integrated with the bloodlines of Maria Rose and Sina
@@madeleinec147 I think the series never address Ymir as Fritz wife. So it is more accurate why she is a concubine and makes the Stockholm Syndrome more sense. Desperate of seeking love for the nearest male person who she would never receive. I did have a small backstory why she had SS to begin with.
@@yaujj65 You're right, they never did. I'm not too familiar with concubines so my mind went with wife. If Ymir wasn't a concubine though, Fritz was definitely a polygamist. I don't think it would be too much of a leap to think that he took at least one woman from each conquered land to bear his seed 🤮
I've had the exact same thought tho without any of the evidence from the manga since im AO. This honestly paints Ymir and the History of Subjects of Ymir even more tragic since they were just slaves to the eldian king. And though they are the "monstous" titans, the actual criminals of the eldian empire are those who profited off their conquests and genocide being commited by a subjugated group of people who get all the hate and blame for it while also suffering the most from these military camapigns
Yeah I can kind of agree with this. This issue goes back to Dragon Ball with Pan, who is the daughter of a half Saiyan. She has less Saiyan genes than even Gohan, so she never went Super Saiyan in the official story. By then, the blood becomes too diluted. Some immigrant Eldians definitely have more diluted blood.
Yeah I mean, just like subjects of Ymir didn’t “infected” every other race in the world, there is still a chance some of the original Eldians didn’t came in contact with them as well…that’s at least how I see it 🧐
Just a small note, I think the power is not manipulate memories but rather wipe memories. I seen more evidence that the FT wipe memories rather than manipulate memories like adjusting to fit their own narrative. I think it was the people themselves that adjusted the memories if there was any conflicting one. Of course for Karl Fritz, he just wipe people memories and lie in front of their faces with the government. I think Historia memories are the only one being adjusted and I think it was her own, not by the FT. In Bioshock Infinite, *Spoilers* Booker Dewitt never remember that his past memories is because he was entering an alternate reality that he don't belong and in order to be adjusted into this world, his own memories is adjusted appropriately. As the quote in the game, "The mind of the subject will desperately struggle to create memories where none exist…". So Historia memories were merely wiped, her subconscious is trying to adjust their memories on how they were able to learn and odd yearning for a mother figure. Maybe this is why it is painful for Mikasa because an Ackerman is impossible to wipe their memories and trying to penetrate through with the FT or Ymir is conflicting and conflict creates pain.
Ok I see your point, I just used to call it memory manipulation like the physical manipulation the FT can do on Eldians (being able to change their body anatomy) But ok, I can go with “wiping out” their memories
I wonder what will the faces of the Marleyans will be like when the Titan serums are injected into the Eldians who are not the Subjects of Ymir. After all, those Eldians cannot be turned into Titans, right? And when they cannot be turned into Titans, what will Marley do to them, the Eldians who are not Subjects of Ymir.
Yup, according to my logic the titan injection will do nothing to people who DON’T have mixed blood with the subjects of Ymir… On the other hand it may not turn them to titans, but it can kill them or mess up their bodies 🤔
@@MangaHorse We might never know the truth because we never saw the non-Subject of Ymir, let alone an Eldian one, was injected with the Titan serum like at all. Also, why do you think Paradis did not ally with the Mid-East Alliance? I asked this because I am the supporter of the Rumbling when there was no other choice. But back then, Paradis had a choice, which is to join the Mid-East Alliance. And if you or anyone think that is impossible, allow me to introduce you to the Franco-Ottoman alliance. Back in the 16th century in our world, the Franco-Ottoman alliance was very scandalous at the time in the eyes of the Catholic Christian Europe. As for how such an alliance happened between France and the Ottoman Empire, it happened because King Charles of Spain defeated King Francis I of France at the Battle of Pavia and have the King of France captured and imprisoned in Madrid. Worrying about her son's safety after his capture, Duchess Louise of Savoy dispatched a diplomatic mission led by Jean Frangipani to the Sublime Porte of the Ottoman Empire's capital at Constantinople, requesting for help from Sultan Suleiman to help her son regained freedom and to attack the Habsburg. In the Sultan's eyes, the Duchess' letter is basically the recognition by France that the Ottoman Empire is a European nation and the true Third Rome, given the Ottoman Sultan the legitimacy as the European ruler and the pretext to go to war with Hungary, which happened to be ruled by King Louis II of Hungary, who happened to be brother-in-law of King Charles through his marriage with the King of Spain's sister, whose name is Mary. This led to the Battle of Mohacs, where the Ottomans defeated the Hungarians and annexed their country as Budin Eyalet, thus opening the gate for the Ottomans' conquest into Central Europe, specifically at the Habsburg's Austrian capital at Vienna. My point here is that if the Franco-Ottoman alliance is possible in our world, then I believe the alliance between Paradis and the Mid-East Alliance is possible as well. I suggested this idea because it is the most common alternative to the Rumbling but yet, not many people seemed to acknowledge it because they, the people in real life, believed in what Marley's propaganda said and what Udo said about the Eldians being treated worse outside of Marley.
@@lerneanlion Even though it might be an interesting case, but that is not what Eren and Zeke wanted. Eren just wanted to destroy the world primarily because of his innate desire that override logic and Zeke wanted to just wipe the SoY in his terms of 'peace'. Also there was a consideration for using resources trade to the world but Hizuru, in allies with Zeke, would try to monopolize the Paradis resources. Plus their attempts of diplomacy haven't which potential with Eren forcing the SC to do what he want along with Zeke which force them to divert resources to save the FT then attempt diplomacy because the FT was important to Paradis survival. There is also the fact that Marley release Titans in Mid East capital 10 years ago which explains why Mid East really hated SoY because they transform out of nowhere (thanks Zeke....). A lot of factors to consider. From the world situation and Eren and Zeke manipulations.
@@yaujj65 Out of desperation, we humans will do anything and accept help from anyone to survive. And if the Survey Corps have what it takes to go to Marley to talk things out, which is a stupid idea from the very beginning from my point of view because Marley has no interest in engage in peace talks with Paradis from the very start, the idea of talking with the nations that made up the Mid-East Alliance during the Marley Mid-East War might be more fruitful and more possible when they started to lose the war. And if Eren wanted to do the Rumbling, why he waited for four years? Not to mention that he has been waiting for his friends patiently to find the other solutions as well during that time as well. And what can Zeke and Hizuru do? Sure, Hizuru said that they wanted to monopolize the trade but they said nothing who they wanted to trade with. So Paradis can bargain by having Hizuru played the role of the middle man between Paradis and the Mid-East Alliance to secure the win-win situation for all three parties. As for Zeke, what can he and Yelena do? At best, they might be forced to change their tactics and strategies to side with this newly-formed Anti-Marleyan Allied Forces when Marley started to lose the war in order reach their ultimate endgame. At worst, they cannot do anything but to remain loyal to Marley till the end.
Marley probably just did the blood tests on everyone for being a Subject of Ymir and pretended that people who weren't Ymirites were innocent victims of Eldian imperialism. Judging by the whole "early 20th-century German" vibe it would have been their version of race science.
According to my theory no. They only ones who had royal blood was the family who held the Founding titan, the fritz family. So their blood line became “royal” because of the affiliation to the founding titan and Ymir. And the other tribes just became regular subjects of Ymir
I thought this is common knowledge that normal Subjects of Ymir are not all Eldians and vice versa. Besides the best stock population are usually slaves to control. So I suspect that many Subjects of Ymir are non Eldians as well and it is quite cruel because after Eldia fall, you are mistreated simply you have blood abnormality (or I like to call it BOW as in Bio Organic Weapon) that separate from your own people/ethnic. I don't understand the blood consider an honor for normal SoY when the Nine Titans nobles are the only one having the privilege. I do believe the FT have the power to convert people back to Titans, and if that the case, why was it consider an honor to carry a blood that the FT have absolute control over you. I believed that many non-SoY Eldians to play an important role in the Eldian Empire. This is part of my interpretation of AoT lore. I believed that they help managed Eldia and act as upper class but lesser than the 9 Titans people. Actually it was this question, that I wanted to create an non-SoY Eldian OC for my fanfic.
I thought it was a known issue as well, but then I realized a lot of people didn’t know that…so I just wanted to present it with reasonable examples and back it up with the source material from the manga
If we go by the logic of attack on titan, then Karl Fritz turned actual people into titans and placed them inside the walls. It was never mentioned or anything, and I also did a video about it back then But the story clearly shows titans used to be humans, so I only think it’s fitting the wall titans were people as well
@@MangaHorse Although we never see the Wall Titans turn back to humans, it is the fair theory that Karl turn people to Titans as he was a person obsessed with peace that use any means to maintain his paradise.
The question remains why the Reiss family and Fritz family left on Marley are "royal blood" and can turn into titans just like the rest of the commoner Eldians. If "royal blood" means they came from Ymir and King Fritz then how are they different from the Subjects of Ymir who are just commoners and did descend from Ymir? This is considering the two only had three daughters: Maria, Rose and Sina. Aren't the Eldians in Marley and Paradis able to turn into titans through the injection of titan spinal fluid? We saw Dina Fritz does this too and she's royal blood. The only reason I saw is that some of the other original Eldians ate her body too after her daughters did. If so, then they aren't Subjects of Ymir but can still turn into titans? Ok, I'm confused 🤔
So how about the Fritz themselves who are the only ones that own the FOUNDING TITAN for centuries, alongside the TYBURS that has WARHAMMER TITAN with them? Aren't they subjects of Ymir as well? If not, then none of them should own these titans. Non-subjects of Ymir can't be turned to titans after all
My objection to the idea of a "blood abnormality" is two things: 1) Titan injections are spinal fluid, which is also how Ymir's power was transmitted to begin with. So why blood? 2) The property of being a Subject of Ymir is plainly more mystical than scientific: the Paths consider *all* of Ymir's descendants to be her own flesh and blood to move as she pleases like parts of her own body, at the request of Eldian royal blood. Yes, they have blood tests in Marley, but anyone with a single Subject as a parent is also a Subject? No genetic allele is that overwhelmingly dominant in real life. No biological trait "breeds true" that easily and consistently. It would make Subjects of Ymir more of a species than a "race", which would also imply that they couldn't have children with normal humans.
Yes but the titan injections only work on subjects of Ymir, decedents and long decedents of Maria Rose and Sina. The titan injection “simply” triggers what’s already in their blood…that’s the reason people hate the Eldians, because they’re “monsters” The don’t hate the titan injections which will not affect people who are not Subjects of Ymir, or simply, people who carry the blood abnormality carried throughout generations since the 3 daughters…and every one who does share it, is a subject of Ymir Attack on Titan mentions science and blood a lot! And although the titans can be consider as mytical or fictional, Isayama showed that Being a subject of Ymir is transferable by blood…that’s why people refer to their blood as “blood of Devils”
@@MangaHorse Wait, when did Isayama definitively show that you could become a Subject of Ymir from a blood transfusion or from your open wound touching theirs? Also, if it's in the blood and spinal fluid scientifically, why did Maria, Rose, and Sina not turn into Mindless Titans? When did the singular Ymir branch into a maximum number of 9 Titans, with all other Titans being Mindless?
No, not from blood transfusion or contact, they are not Zombies 😅 I meant blood relation! Like if someone along their family tree had a child with a subject of Ymir then everyone from that point would be subject of Ymir, because they share the blood abnormality that goes all the way to Maria Roae and Sina, the daughters of Ymir
@@MangaHorse I think it would be more accurate to call it genetic abnormalities since it does rewrite your genetics. For me, I call it a BOW because it is essentially a weapon like the Mold in Resident Evil.
I wonder if only Ymirs descendants can turn into titana and other eldians didnt how can Ymir Fritz bulit all the bridges and roads and conquer all this land did she do it just by herself? Secondly manga says any titan shifter dies after 13 years so Eldian born with titan shifters powers die in age 13 as a child it is too early too use your titan shifter powers it is not logical how could you explain it?
I would say only subjects of Ymir can turn into titans, only people who their family tree got mix the the bloodline of Maria Rose and Sina. In the anime you saw that Ymir helped conquer the land, but the people who built all the roads and buildings were people. About your last question, I didn’t really understand it sorry 🙏 Titan shifters aren’t born with that power, we never had this in the story and it never happened as far as we know. Titan shifters get their powers from eating another titan shifter, they don’t get this power from birth, and there are only 9 different titan powers
@@MangaHorseThanks for your answer. I think I read this on quora not manga sorry. Mostly I titan shifter is consumed by a pure titan to give their power by authorities but if a shifter dies without transferring it the power goes to a random newborn eldian through the paths they said. But ı dont remember the source. It is not on the anime but ı think Ymir had the power to turn men into titans just by screaming. Just like King Karl Fritz and Zeke. But they didnt show it in the anime. But I just conclude Ymir must be was more powerful than her descendants I it is a logical answer ı believe.
No you are right, the idea is mentioned in the manga, but it never actually happened in the manga or anime, or even mentioned to happen in the past, it’s just an assumption titan shifters across generations came to know, but again, it never really happened
Side note, I find it pretty cool that Mikasa is basically a child born by the combination of both the clans that opposed the king (asian+akerman), who couldn't be manipulated by him - so the most “free” clans/bloodlines. Basically she's the "freest"😂
That is cool!
And both of those sides were also near extinction…that makes Mikasa a unicorn 😅
Well I believe the Asian might have been 'infected' with the SoY. But it does not matter since Mikasa is born of Ackerman and that alone make her defiant against the FT other than her blood of the outside Paradis.
I also wonder if some people in the larger world who don't believe themselves to be Eldians actually turned out to be subject of Ymir from ancestors they had no knowledge of.
They probably did. That’s why Kyomi was talking about blood tests. I guess at least some turned out to be subjects of Ymir without even knowing themselves
@@MangaHorse I wonder though if the blood test is supposed to tell them "You're related to Ymir" or is it "You're related to King Fritz and other original Eldians aside from Ymir".
If it's the first one then their ancestors either came from Maria, Rose and Sina. If it's the second then they didn't come from the three daughters but simply from King Fritz (who had other wives) or from the original Eldian tribe who enslaved Ymir's village.
5:51 I separated it to
Pre-Ymir Eldians & Post-Ymir Eldians who are the majority of the Eldian population as they all descended from Rosa/Maria/Sina
I cant belive how smart you are, keep doing what you're doing bri
You are really too nice my friend thank you so much! I’m really happy you enjoy my vids and I have more like it, especially about Mikasa
I can physically and scientifically prove Mikasa 😅
I just hope I will still have people watching by the time I’ll make those videos 🤞
@@MangaHorse every video of yours is so sophisticated and enjoyable ro watch,I always learn new things from you, you are so underrated,so keep pushing forward!
I’m so happy you enjoy my vids, thank you again my friend for all the love and support
it means a lot to me 🙏
IIRC, the first King Fritz had at least one wife before Ymir. I wouldn't be surprised if some (if not all) of the Eldian nobility came from that union.
King Fritz always saw Ymir as his slave, so it makes sense that the Eldian nobility at the time would make sure they remained in power without their bloodline integrating with Ymir's. They benefitted from her power, without tainting themselves with "slave blood".
Ymir would be more of a concubine than a wife.
@@yaujj65 Aah yes, that's the word. Thank you.
Yes!
So you agree with me about the possibility of people from the Eldian clan not being Subjects of Ymir simply because their bloodline never integrated with the bloodlines of Maria Rose and Sina
@@madeleinec147 I think the series never address Ymir as Fritz wife. So it is more accurate why she is a concubine and makes the Stockholm Syndrome more sense.
Desperate of seeking love for the nearest male person who she would never receive. I did have a small backstory why she had SS to begin with.
@@yaujj65 You're right, they never did. I'm not too familiar with concubines so my mind went with wife.
If Ymir wasn't a concubine though, Fritz was definitely a polygamist. I don't think it would be too much of a leap to think that he took at least one woman from each conquered land to bear his seed 🤮
I've had the exact same thought tho without any of the evidence from the manga since im AO. This honestly paints Ymir and the History of Subjects of Ymir even more tragic since they were just slaves to the eldian king. And though they are the "monstous" titans, the actual criminals of the eldian empire are those who profited off their conquests and genocide being commited by a subjugated group of people who get all the hate and blame for it while also suffering the most from these military camapigns
This makes more sense to an extent. It just doesn’t explain the Ackermans
Ayo this deserves more views
Thank you my friend, I wish it would have more views, but that’s ok, I’m just grateful people are still watching my vids 🙏
This was a really great video you did a great job explaining it thank you
My pleasure 😇 thank you for watching 🙏
We need a series about the Great Titan War
Yeah I can kind of agree with this. This issue goes back to Dragon Ball with Pan, who is the daughter of a half Saiyan. She has less Saiyan genes than even Gohan, so she never went Super Saiyan in the official story. By then, the blood becomes too diluted. Some immigrant Eldians definitely have more diluted blood.
Yeah I mean, just like subjects of Ymir didn’t “infected” every other race in the world, there is still a chance some of the original Eldians didn’t came in contact with them as well…that’s at least how I see it 🧐
@@MangaHorse That makes the most sense biologically at least.
Great video!!!
Thank you so much my friend 🙏
Just a small note, I think the power is not manipulate memories but rather wipe memories. I seen more evidence that the FT wipe memories rather than manipulate memories like adjusting to fit their own narrative.
I think it was the people themselves that adjusted the memories if there was any conflicting one. Of course for Karl Fritz, he just wipe people memories and lie in front of their faces with the government. I think Historia memories are the only one being adjusted and I think it was her own, not by the FT. In Bioshock Infinite,
*Spoilers*
Booker Dewitt never remember that his past memories is because he was entering an alternate reality that he don't belong and in order to be adjusted into this world, his own memories is adjusted appropriately. As the quote in the game, "The mind of the subject will desperately struggle to create memories where none exist…".
So Historia memories were merely wiped, her subconscious is trying to adjust their memories on how they were able to learn and odd yearning for a mother figure.
Maybe this is why it is painful for Mikasa because an Ackerman is impossible to wipe their memories and trying to penetrate through with the FT or Ymir is conflicting and conflict creates pain.
Ok I see your point, I just used to call it memory manipulation like the physical manipulation the FT can do on Eldians (being able to change their body anatomy)
But ok, I can go with “wiping out” their memories
@@MangaHorse Not your fault, it is mainly the series and fandom said it. You just part of the symptom. Besides, as I said, it is a small note.
I swear, AOT is the moat unique show I have ever watched, it has so many things in it and it's definately a masterpiece for me.
I totally agree with you
I classified the story as a masterpiece a long time ago
If you watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes your barin will melt.
I wonder what will the faces of the Marleyans will be like when the Titan serums are injected into the Eldians who are not the Subjects of Ymir. After all, those Eldians cannot be turned into Titans, right? And when they cannot be turned into Titans, what will Marley do to them, the Eldians who are not Subjects of Ymir.
Yup, according to my logic the titan injection will do nothing to people who DON’T have mixed blood with the subjects of Ymir…
On the other hand it may not turn them to titans, but it can kill them or mess up their bodies 🤔
@@MangaHorse We might never know the truth because we never saw the non-Subject of Ymir, let alone an Eldian one, was injected with the Titan serum like at all.
Also, why do you think Paradis did not ally with the Mid-East Alliance? I asked this because I am the supporter of the Rumbling when there was no other choice. But back then, Paradis had a choice, which is to join the Mid-East Alliance. And if you or anyone think that is impossible, allow me to introduce you to the Franco-Ottoman alliance.
Back in the 16th century in our world, the Franco-Ottoman alliance was very scandalous at the time in the eyes of the Catholic Christian Europe. As for how such an alliance happened between France and the Ottoman Empire, it happened because King Charles of Spain defeated King Francis I of France at the Battle of Pavia and have the King of France captured and imprisoned in Madrid. Worrying about her son's safety after his capture, Duchess Louise of Savoy dispatched a diplomatic mission led by Jean Frangipani to the Sublime Porte of the Ottoman Empire's capital at Constantinople, requesting for help from Sultan Suleiman to help her son regained freedom and to attack the Habsburg. In the Sultan's eyes, the Duchess' letter is basically the recognition by France that the Ottoman Empire is a European nation and the true Third Rome, given the Ottoman Sultan the legitimacy as the European ruler and the pretext to go to war with Hungary, which happened to be ruled by King Louis II of Hungary, who happened to be brother-in-law of King Charles through his marriage with the King of Spain's sister, whose name is Mary. This led to the Battle of Mohacs, where the Ottomans defeated the Hungarians and annexed their country as Budin Eyalet, thus opening the gate for the Ottomans' conquest into Central Europe, specifically at the Habsburg's Austrian capital at Vienna. My point here is that if the Franco-Ottoman alliance is possible in our world, then I believe the alliance between Paradis and the Mid-East Alliance is possible as well. I suggested this idea because it is the most common alternative to the Rumbling but yet, not many people seemed to acknowledge it because they, the people in real life, believed in what Marley's propaganda said and what Udo said about the Eldians being treated worse outside of Marley.
@@lerneanlion Even though it might be an interesting case, but that is not what Eren and Zeke wanted. Eren just wanted to destroy the world primarily because of his innate desire that override logic and Zeke wanted to just wipe the SoY in his terms of 'peace'.
Also there was a consideration for using resources trade to the world but Hizuru, in allies with Zeke, would try to monopolize the Paradis resources. Plus their attempts of diplomacy haven't which potential with Eren forcing the SC to do what he want along with Zeke which force them to divert resources to save the FT then attempt diplomacy because the FT was important to Paradis survival.
There is also the fact that Marley release Titans in Mid East capital 10 years ago which explains why Mid East really hated SoY because they transform out of nowhere (thanks Zeke....).
A lot of factors to consider. From the world situation and Eren and Zeke manipulations.
@@yaujj65 Out of desperation, we humans will do anything and accept help from anyone to survive. And if the Survey Corps have what it takes to go to Marley to talk things out, which is a stupid idea from the very beginning from my point of view because Marley has no interest in engage in peace talks with Paradis from the very start, the idea of talking with the nations that made up the Mid-East Alliance during the Marley Mid-East War might be more fruitful and more possible when they started to lose the war. And if Eren wanted to do the Rumbling, why he waited for four years? Not to mention that he has been waiting for his friends patiently to find the other solutions as well during that time as well. And what can Zeke and Hizuru do? Sure, Hizuru said that they wanted to monopolize the trade but they said nothing who they wanted to trade with. So Paradis can bargain by having Hizuru played the role of the middle man between Paradis and the Mid-East Alliance to secure the win-win situation for all three parties. As for Zeke, what can he and Yelena do? At best, they might be forced to change their tactics and strategies to side with this newly-formed Anti-Marleyan Allied Forces when Marley started to lose the war in order reach their ultimate endgame. At worst, they cannot do anything but to remain loyal to Marley till the end.
Marley probably just did the blood tests on everyone for being a Subject of Ymir and pretended that people who weren't Ymirites were innocent victims of Eldian imperialism. Judging by the whole "early 20th-century German" vibe it would have been their version of race science.
Do all subjects of Ymir have Royal Blood?
According to my theory no. They only ones who had royal blood was the family who held the Founding titan, the fritz family. So their blood line became “royal” because of the affiliation to the founding titan and Ymir. And the other tribes just became regular subjects of Ymir
2:40 If the Ackermans are not Subject of Ymir why could Mikasa & Levi see the paths? And why were they addressed as Subjects of Ymir
תודה. זה בהחלט עושה סדר בסיפור
בשמחה, ממש כיף שיכולתי לעזור!
תודה רבה שצפית 🙏😊
7:59 Basically the Non-Ymir Eldians had to practice incest for the last 107 years to keep that going.
I thought this is common knowledge that normal Subjects of Ymir are not all Eldians and vice versa. Besides the best stock population are usually slaves to control. So I suspect that many Subjects of Ymir are non Eldians as well and it is quite cruel because after Eldia fall, you are mistreated simply you have blood abnormality (or I like to call it BOW as in Bio Organic Weapon) that separate from your own people/ethnic.
I don't understand the blood consider an honor for normal SoY when the Nine Titans nobles are the only one having the privilege. I do believe the FT have the power to convert people back to Titans, and if that the case, why was it consider an honor to carry a blood that the FT have absolute control over you.
I believed that many non-SoY Eldians to play an important role in the Eldian Empire. This is part of my interpretation of AoT lore. I believed that they help managed Eldia and act as upper class but lesser than the 9 Titans people.
Actually it was this question, that I wanted to create an non-SoY Eldian OC for my fanfic.
I thought it was a known issue as well, but then I realized a lot of people didn’t know that…so I just wanted to present it with reasonable examples and back it up with the source material from the manga
How were the walls built?
If we go by the logic of attack on titan, then Karl Fritz turned actual people into titans and placed them inside the walls.
It was never mentioned or anything, and I also did a video about it back then
But the story clearly shows titans used to be humans, so I only think it’s fitting the wall titans were people as well
@@MangaHorse Although we never see the Wall Titans turn back to humans, it is the fair theory that Karl turn people to Titans as he was a person obsessed with peace that use any means to maintain his paradise.
thats nice
Glad you like it, and thank you for watching 🙏
The question remains why the Reiss family and Fritz family left on Marley are "royal blood" and can turn into titans just like the rest of the commoner Eldians.
If "royal blood" means they came from Ymir and King Fritz then how are they different from the Subjects of Ymir who are just commoners and did descend from Ymir? This is considering the two only had three daughters: Maria, Rose and Sina.
Aren't the Eldians in Marley and Paradis able to turn into titans through the injection of titan spinal fluid? We saw Dina Fritz does this too and she's royal blood.
The only reason I saw is that some of the other original Eldians ate her body too after her daughters did. If so, then they aren't Subjects of Ymir but can still turn into titans?
Ok, I'm confused 🤔
But we're all subjects of Manga Horse
My tainted blood will live on 🥹🙏
So how about the Fritz themselves who are the only ones that own the FOUNDING TITAN for centuries, alongside the TYBURS that has WARHAMMER TITAN with them? Aren't they subjects of Ymir as well? If not, then none of them should own these titans. Non-subjects of Ymir can't be turned to titans after all
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So they also can’t turn Titan
Very true
If they are not subjects of Ymir, they are not different than people of Marley that can’t turn into titans
My objection to the idea of a "blood abnormality" is two things:
1) Titan injections are spinal fluid, which is also how Ymir's power was transmitted to begin with. So why blood?
2) The property of being a Subject of Ymir is plainly more mystical than scientific: the Paths consider *all* of Ymir's descendants to be her own flesh and blood to move as she pleases like parts of her own body, at the request of Eldian royal blood. Yes, they have blood tests in Marley, but anyone with a single Subject as a parent is also a Subject? No genetic allele is that overwhelmingly dominant in real life. No biological trait "breeds true" that easily and consistently. It would make Subjects of Ymir more of a species than a "race", which would also imply that they couldn't have children with normal humans.
Yes but the titan injections only work on subjects of Ymir, decedents and long decedents of Maria Rose and Sina.
The titan injection “simply” triggers what’s already in their blood…that’s the reason people hate the Eldians, because they’re “monsters”
The don’t hate the titan injections which will not affect people who are not Subjects of Ymir, or simply, people who carry the blood abnormality carried throughout generations since the 3 daughters…and every one who does share it, is a subject of Ymir
Attack on Titan mentions science and blood a lot! And although the titans can be consider as mytical or fictional, Isayama showed that Being a subject of Ymir is transferable by blood…that’s why people refer to their blood as “blood of Devils”
@@MangaHorse Wait, when did Isayama definitively show that you could become a Subject of Ymir from a blood transfusion or from your open wound touching theirs?
Also, if it's in the blood and spinal fluid scientifically, why did Maria, Rose, and Sina not turn into Mindless Titans? When did the singular Ymir branch into a maximum number of 9 Titans, with all other Titans being Mindless?
No, not from blood transfusion or contact, they are not Zombies 😅
I meant blood relation! Like if someone along their family tree had a child with a subject of Ymir then everyone from that point would be subject of Ymir, because they share the blood abnormality that goes all the way to Maria Roae and Sina, the daughters of Ymir
@@MangaHorse I think it would be more accurate to call it genetic abnormalities since it does rewrite your genetics.
For me, I call it a BOW because it is essentially a weapon like the Mold in Resident Evil.
But wouldnt then every „subject of ymir“ have royal blood?
I wonder if only Ymirs descendants can turn into titana and other eldians didnt how can Ymir Fritz bulit all the bridges and roads and conquer all this land did she do it just by herself?
Secondly manga says any titan shifter dies after 13 years so Eldian born with titan shifters powers die in age 13 as a child it is too early too use your titan shifter powers it is not logical how could you explain it?
I would say only subjects of Ymir can turn into titans, only people who their family tree got mix the the bloodline of Maria Rose and Sina.
In the anime you saw that Ymir helped conquer the land, but the people who built all the roads and buildings were people.
About your last question, I didn’t really understand it sorry 🙏
Titan shifters aren’t born with that power, we never had this in the story and it never happened as far as we know.
Titan shifters get their powers from eating another titan shifter, they don’t get this power from birth, and there are only 9 different titan powers
@@MangaHorseThanks for your answer.
I think I read this on quora not manga sorry. Mostly I titan shifter is consumed by a pure titan to give their power by authorities but if a shifter dies without transferring it the power goes to a random newborn eldian through the paths they said. But ı dont remember the source.
It is not on the anime but ı think Ymir had the power to turn men into titans just by screaming. Just like King Karl Fritz and Zeke. But they didnt show it in the anime. But I just conclude Ymir must be was more powerful than her descendants I it is a logical answer ı believe.
No you are right, the idea is mentioned in the manga, but it never actually happened in the manga or anime, or even mentioned to happen in the past, it’s just an assumption titan shifters across generations came to know, but again, it never really happened