Model 3 Acceleration Boost Full Review Before/After 0-60 1/4 mile

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  • @taipoxin
    @taipoxin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Let's not forget that when the Performance 3 first came out, it was running 11.8's in the quarter mile. I'm now doing that in my AWD+ 3. So we pretty much have the same top end performance as the initial version of the Performance model before these incremental power enhancements came through the software.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true!

  • @EVandChill
    @EVandChill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely the best video I have seen so far that breaks down the numbers in what the Boost Upgrade provides!

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, BUT the banter and BS before is self indulgent. Mark needs to get to the point: I paid $2000 K for upgrade and got .46 0-60 quicker. Bam, thats it!!

    • @justrandomthings319
      @justrandomthings319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexnutcasio936 That's why I couldn't watch the video and just came straight to the comments. I don't need 20 minutes to be told what I can see in 2 minutes.

  • @dangrass
    @dangrass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You do great work! What you’re seeing is consistent with the earlier dyno tests of the 2 dual motor variants. The horsepower and torque advantage is all at lower speeds, which is why the quarter mile speeds are so close.
    Drag times did a comparison test between the updated long range car and the performance car and found that while the performance version is faster 0-60, it’s about the same at higher speeds.
    Bottom line is that the performance increase is all at the bottom.

  • @aussie2uGA
    @aussie2uGA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes the upgrade was immediate as the software already contained what was necessary to enable it. I too was waiting for "software update available" on the phone to appear until others pointed out they simply log into your car and flip the switch. Kinda cool, kinda scary.

  • @tonymcewing1515
    @tonymcewing1515 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey Mark. Thanks for a thoroughly comprehensive explanation of the differences between these two Model 3 variants and exactly what my 2k bought. I have the AWD LR and I purchased the acceleration boost as soon as it was available. I've been highly impressed with the results. I've noticed a huge difference. And your analysis illustrates clearly that it's not in my head. ;-) Having never driven a P3D, I can only imagine what the 0-60 acceleration is like with that variant. That being said, I'm over-the-top happy with my 2k boost! I went back and forth about which of the two to purchase and finally decided to go with the AWD LR. I'm glad I did. Even though I don't have all the cool extras like bigger brakes and track mode, I'm good. And I love having the extra range. I think the 2k was not only well spent but a bit of a bargain. Excellent video! Keep up the great work. I'm now subscribed and you now have a new fan!

  • @evtesla89
    @evtesla89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great data you have piled up on your runs. Big like and giving you support. Keep up the great work on your videos

  • @S2kDude36
    @S2kDude36 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's great to see an owner posting detailed data and not using an iPhone for the testing.

  • @scottjustin9800
    @scottjustin9800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Watched several "booster" videos and learned more from this one than the others combined. Am a bit jealous that you found an, ostensibly, discreet place to do your tests. I get major anxiety doing a 0-60 launch in my area of Chicagoland. But I digress...

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!
      Funny, but years ago found this perfect road but no longer had a car to make use of it. I would occasionally drive down it anyway, dreaming of using it for this type of testing.

    • @jabariphillips8855
      @jabariphillips8855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just need to head out of the city towards the burbs. I recommend going near Dekalb or Rockford. Lots of empty rural roads in that direction

  • @ILikeGuns24
    @ILikeGuns24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i hope there is a boost upgrade for M3P in the future that brings it under 3 second for 0-60

  • @salcortez1011
    @salcortez1011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought it while I was inside the car. As soon as I hit purchase, my car shot down for a bout a couple of minutes. It came back up and I got the update.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha - that figures, I waited days...

  • @gregcanada765
    @gregcanada765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice review! Someone provided data from the CAN buss and it revealed that the additional hp and torque came from the front motor. I found that interesting because the latest owners manual stated the front motor was the same in both cars while the difference was in the rear motor. If this is true, I believe you will see this same offer to all the performance owners.

    • @taipoxin
      @taipoxin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's really just the inverter in the rear that's different (since April of this year) which has a higher current current limit on the P, which you can see in the owners manual page 179. If you looked at previous CAN data you can see they've just been software limiting the current on the front motor for the AWD as the biggest delta for current between AWD and P is from the front not the rear. Nobody knows how close to the limits (or safe limits really) the rear is though as far as peak current, but I'd imagine there may still be a small amount left. A higher kWh pack is probably what's needed though to gain any further significant boosts. And there's already rumor that Tesla may be working on just that.

    • @tonyc6996
      @tonyc6996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@taipoxin Compared to before the Acceleration Boost (but after the 2019.36.2 power increase):
      Peak power increased from 333.2 kW (447 HP) to 370.9 kW (497 HP), an increase of 50 HP (+11.3%)
      Peak torque increased from 501.75 Nm to 564 Nm, an increase of 62 Nm (+12.4%)
      Front motor peak power increased from 139.5 kW to 175.5 kW (+25.8%) and peak torque increased from 185.5 Nm to 232.25 Nm (+25.2%)
      Rear motor peak power decreased from 231 kW to 221 kW (-4.3%) while peak torque increased from 318.5 Nm to 333 Nm (+4.5%)
      0-60 mph in 3.781s
      0-100 km/h in 3.962s
      0-160 km/h in 8.478s

  • @michaelfulton1080
    @michaelfulton1080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When it’s 9:40 and you’re only half way through the video 😂

  • @tonyc6996
    @tonyc6996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subbed. Great video. Thanks for your work

  • @snakepliskin6717
    @snakepliskin6717 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a bar under the SOC and MPH, when it is black and moving to the right, that is power. When it is green and to the left that is regen. Sure you know that, but my theory is that you will see that black bar go to the top .5 seconds faster. Totally agree with your analysis. Great videos! Subscriber. :)

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Interesting theory, but based on some dyno testing I saw it looks like it is additional power from 0-60.

  • @PerformanceRaven
    @PerformanceRaven 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Mark. I don't miss those Chicago winters one bit. lol

  • @TCPUDPATM
    @TCPUDPATM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why the heck can’t I turn this boost OFF? Add an extra option for boost ON/OFF or Normal/Sport!
    Stupid…

  • @slippyg
    @slippyg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's weird is on drag race after 50mph the M3LR is faster than the M3P

  • @billligon4005
    @billligon4005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the Accel Boost May 22 and like you I noticed there seemed to be a little faster, but I did not know. Did Tesla chat and said it should say "Acceleration Boost" on the Driving mode. So they said they would get back to me. So we'll see. I still don't know if I got the update or not.

  • @michaelfulton1080
    @michaelfulton1080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:47 for the test

  • @abbyNORMal8828
    @abbyNORMal8828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your video was an excellent analysis and a very real look at exactly what kind of performance the $2000 actually buys. It's almost safe to say that Tesla is charging, those who choose it, a cost to rearrange the computer module chip. Kinda like cable TV and the premium levels or choices of channel selection. Same car, "different" algorithms, AND the warranty stays intact!
    Just wondering if the top speed might result into somewhat faster than the 145MPH "stock" Dual Motor non-performance version and the Performance Model 3's 155MPH?... (that should be your next video...;-))

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks.
      Haha, I wish I could easily test top speed! Based on what we've seen, though, this upgrade wouldn't affect anything over 60 or 70 mph.

  • @bradmason8606
    @bradmason8606 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think there is a limit on initial voltage (from 0% throttle & 0mph) flow which was altered by the new software? A M3LR has a bit of lag on initial acceleration, that a M3P does not. I would think that it’s possible that with this new software ($2K acceleration) they have increased the maximum voltage input to the motors on throttle application beginning from 0% initial throttle input, and 0mph.
    I would like to see what the differences in 30-60mph and 60-90mph acceleration was both before and after the $2K upgrade to see if this hypothesis is true.

  • @slacayo
    @slacayo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative! The curves really demonstrated exactly what one is getting. Simply put.....its a poor man's Performance.
    It's a matter of time that Tesla will give Performance customers.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, but it's seems strange to call a $50k+ Tesla 3 AWD with the boost a "poor man's" anything. Haha, I know, it's all relative.

    • @slacayo
      @slacayo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmark300 i totally agree. To me anything above 28k for a car is expensive and know a Telsa M3D is on another level for my price point and perhaps others. I saved for months before I pulled the trigger. No buyers remorse but I do think about what if I bought the Performance. Sigh....
      Probably poor choice of words but for those that did not want to cough up the extra 10 to 12k for the Performance 2k is not to bad for the boost hence poor man's Performance Model 3.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slacayo I was able to get the car by buying a few thousand miles used from a private party. But I think if I bought new the best buy, for me, would have been to find what they call the stealth performance model for slightly more money than the non performance 3. I don't need the brakes or track package and can add a better suspension and wheels later.

    • @tonyc6996
      @tonyc6996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm hesitant to what the P owner's might get in terms of buyable upgrade. The S trick for launch is in the air suspension. The 3 doesn't have that trick up it's sleeve

  • @janpedersen8124
    @janpedersen8124 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be very interesting to see a retest of performance vs SOC after the performance boost to see how much the boost is at lower SOC

  • @erikandmarcie
    @erikandmarcie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Although I think it is a HP boost. Remember electric motors have the most power at low RPM before back EMF kicks in at higher RPM. So it only makes since that the performance version is only allowing more power at low RPM, because there's no more headroom at higher RPM where all versions are already producing as much power as the hardware allows.

  • @richieroro
    @richieroro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison video! I'd love to see differences in 0-30, 30-60, and 60-100 times if you have the data.

  • @skytoast
    @skytoast 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought my Model 3 (LR Dual Motor Silver Metallic) end of ‘18. Picked it up with v8 software and I remember it “felt so much faster” than what it is now - i mean butterfly feeling which I could swear they limited since subsequent software upgrades. I’m thinking of getting paid upgrade if I could get that back. Technicalities aside, how does it feel? Really noticeable? I just want that “fun” back....

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah, half a second is definitely noticeable. After the update, charge it to as close to 100% as possible and you'll feel the rush.
      Check out my other video on charge level vs performance.
      Oh yeah, please subscribe. More coming.

  • @renebergqvist599
    @renebergqvist599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I didn't have the data - but my butt 'dragy' said the same. Nothing extra above 50-55 mph. Extra punch from zero - alot extra punch from 20 mph to 50 mph.
    One maybe interesting thing to note. When we registrer the cars in Denmark an official power number needs to be put on the registration. If the power goes beyond you will need to re-registrer the car and insurance can be impacted as well.
    For the Jan 2019 models the LR awd like mine has 350 kW listed while the Performance got 360 kW. From Nov 2019 (guess 2020 models) its 360 kW vs. 377 kW respectively.
    The dual motors does not have that power but it means Tesla is leaving 'headroom' for extra power for the LR awd.
    Yes it was a strange upgrade procedure where you got no notification/confirmation - only standard changed to sport - but nobody told you except social media.

  • @jaykid007
    @jaykid007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! So what the hp of this car before and after the 2k update?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Before was total peak of 447hp, after 497hp.
      Please subscribe!

    • @nickpapadakis
      @nickpapadakis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmark300 didn't you mention that there is no hp increase with acceleration boost? How come you saw this 50hp increase? I guess you went the car for a dyno test before and after the upgrade? Thanks!

  • @prozirus2333
    @prozirus2333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Idk why the acceleration boost is still limited to 145mph when the performance can do 162mph

    • @BonanzaPilot
      @BonanzaPilot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ghost version of the performance 3 is limited to 145mph as well. Might be because of the smaller brakes and different wheels?

    • @slippyg
      @slippyg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BonanzaPilot expect exactly that.

    • @Areku06
      @Areku06 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tires.

  • @patjcoan
    @patjcoan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the boost help acceleration at all speeds or just that 0-60

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anything between 0 and 60 only.

    • @patjcoan
      @patjcoan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmark300 got it, thanks for the info!!

  • @jestronixhanderson9898
    @jestronixhanderson9898 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On my 10kw ebike, I can modify the response on the controller , full power instantly, yet still pulling same power, it’s just on tap earlier. I’ll probably test it for 48 hrs and see.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really wish we had the ability to change our throttle response curve on the Tesla...

  • @thienthan324
    @thienthan324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there tax in top of the $2000? I bought my model 3 without auto pilot, if I was to upgrade to autopilot now, there will be tax on top of it?

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, yes. Both my FSD and boost options were charged tax.

    • @jackeyfong2305
      @jackeyfong2305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just paid the boost upgrade 2 days ago. No sales tax. The car is register in California.

    • @thienthan324
      @thienthan324 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackeyfong2305 that's great for you. I live in bay area CA, if I upgrade to auto pilot there will tax on top. $3000+292.50=3292.50

    • @jackeyfong2305
      @jackeyfong2305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thienthan324 I live in Orange County area. Mine is M3 Long Range AWD included FSD when delivered new. I think Uncle Sam want money for hardware that have not collect tax yet. Boost Upgrade consider a service not taxable item.

  • @scottc78
    @scottc78 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do agree that a majority of your ET improvement is in the 0-60 improvement, but there's definitely a HP increase as well here. A nearly 1.5mph increase in the MPH of your quarter mile suggests around a 20hp increase in power. Too bad you don't have 60-130mph times from before the boost to compare.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, 60-130 would have been great! Hindsight...
      But, if there is a HP increase ONLY from 0-60, the 1/4 mile MPH would also be higher. There doesn't need to be an increase in HP throughout the entire run for it to show up at the end MPH.

    • @scottc78
      @scottc78 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmark300 ya, it might just be all on the low rpm range. I'm guessing the 1.5mph increase was all by the 1/8th mile. The 60' times, start to 1/8th mph, and 1/8th to quarter mile mph increase differences would be interesting to look at too.

  • @dangrass
    @dangrass 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    could you post the spreadsheets for times versus SOC and this analysis?

  • @Supaswol
    @Supaswol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info and break down. Thanks

  • @kulifrunsen
    @kulifrunsen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great upgrade made available.
    Now, this proves that the m3p and the m3lr are actually the same car in terms of battery and motors. I am pretty sure Tesla is limiting the initial current to the motors on the M3LR with the performance boost. Otherwise it would be the same as the M3P in terms of acceleration

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've keep reading that tesla does have a different part number for the rear motors of the perf model. Not totally confirmed but some are claiming this comes from asking tesla directly...

  • @turbo80lxcoupe
    @turbo80lxcoupe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good info. Pretty much makes my decision for my purchase of which model 3, unless i happen to track down a stealth

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool!
      Don't forget my code that will get you 1000 free supercharger miles - ts.la/mark76660
      And subscribe - I'm always testing things...

  • @vasileiospetropoulos2046
    @vasileiospetropoulos2046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best video

  • @danielb8295
    @danielb8295 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 8:58 the vidoe starts

  • @amccann99
    @amccann99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy crap, the entire video is you talking...

  • @alexnutcasio936
    @alexnutcasio936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mark, love your detailed reviews, BUT sometimes you REALLY need to get to the point. I believe your last testing on SOC was at 37 F.
    Technically, if I look at this, I ONLY paid $4000 more for my P3D. AND still a full .5 second quicker to 60.

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha, I know, sorry. I want to give some background, inform, and give my opinions. If I knew exactly who my audience was it would be easier. Also, I'm just not that great at speaking extemporaneously and this helps me improve. Thanks!

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And yes, I wish it was warmer. I don't remember it being quite that cold but I would have to watch it again. I thought it was in the mid - 40s. The batteries were fully warmed, though. I will do some more testing when it warms up.
      Yeah, I wish I had a P3D...

  • @Resist4
    @Resist4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Performance is also a lowered car, you forgot to list that.

    • @slacayo
      @slacayo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sure Elon has something for Performance. Matter of time.

    • @MrKooderna
      @MrKooderna 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's not.

    • @slacayo
      @slacayo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrKooderna look at the official web site. "Lowered suspension" on P3D

    • @Resist4
      @Resist4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrKooderna You're wrong, it is lowered and one reason why I didn't want the Performance version. That and the larger low profile tires, too easy to get flats with them.

    • @MrKooderna
      @MrKooderna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Resist4 I am Wrong it is lowered

  • @romansenger2322
    @romansenger2322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also did a video on the boost showing the performance at higher speeds
    th-cam.com/video/wWGClx4AJuc/w-d-xo.html

  • @jakesta11
    @jakesta11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You get what they told you you'd get. This video could have been 30 seconds long

    • @jakesta11
      @jakesta11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people want the ability to zip into traffic without bigger brakes that you literally don't need to use on a daily basis

  • @jonathan6665
    @jonathan6665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You look like Negan from the walking dead!

    • @mmark300
      @mmark300  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha, Guess who I was for Halloween a couple years ago? I never saw it until someone at the health club told me the same thing. If I could put a pic here I would...

  • @keithrichard7653
    @keithrichard7653 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You could have did a before and after I think. You paid $2K and didn't really know why.? What was in the update you were paying for? I know you tried to explain but it just didn't wash other than you must have money and Telsa can count on you to buy any update available. Customers have to make them stop and think question if they will buy the updates and at which price, otherwise the engineers will be trying to upscale car owners far too often. Unless you are a drag racer the speed thing is not needed unless it improves range.

    • @tonyc6996
      @tonyc6996 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tesla advertised the 2k update would drop your 0-60 by .5 of a second

    • @drdrew3
      @drdrew3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The “Acceleration Boost” upgrade BOOSTS ACCELERATION. Period. The name says it all
      To take 0.5 seconds off your 0-60 time in an ICE vehicle costs a lot more than $2000 and many hours of labor. I’ve owned my LRAW for a year and now with this upgrade it feels like a whole new vehicle. This upgrade was a bargain!