Why Rockstars & People Can't Stand Rage Against the Machine & Tom Morello
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RATM? Great band or greatest band?
Rage for the machine!
Great band no doubt. I don't agree with their politics at all, but, I don't discriminate when it comes to good music. That Morello solo on "Born Without a Face" still to this day blows my mind and makes my skull move to and fro.
Great band. I laugh when people say they should be on an independent label, they treat their artists way worse most of the time.
Neither.
I can't stand Rage Against the Machine.
"The worst part about RATM is the hypocrisy"
-Norm MacDonald
Underrated comment. "You don't meet a lot of guys that go 'I like to rage, I don't give a fuck'."
Should've named themselves Paid By The Machine. I understand their first album being on a major label and getting to a bigger audience. After that they've could've went to an Indie label and made the same if not even more money and helped out a smaller company and other struggling bands. If Tom is so $15 minimum wage then he should do something about their ticket prices too. Cap them at $15. I saw Fugazi for $5 back in 1998 and RATM for $40. It's easy to scream about spreading the wealth when it doesn't affect your own pockets. I never understood these Millionaire Socialists. Only in a Capitalist country could Millionaire Socialists even exist.
@Jarifman X wish I could pin this comment to the very fkn top. Fk yea dude. RATM's 1st album was the 1st I learned to play on guitar all the way thru after RHCPs BloodSugar... So Tom's a hypocrite, and Kiedis is on Epstein's list wtf happened to my idols?????
@@GeorgeousGeorgeousGeorgereally?
I miss Norm so much
My understanding was that Muir was originally angered by Morello's unwillingness to give him a Pepsi. All he wanted was a Pepsi. He wasn't on drugs, all he wanted was a f'cking Pepsi!
only thing on my mind is a pepsi rite now ! i know the feeling !
😂😂😂
And he wouldnt give it to him!
Far from suicidal, still I get these tendencies rocking BACK in the 80S LIVE!
@AlbertaStrength 😠😡🤬🤯
I work at a restaurant. People who come in think they're the shit. They're not. No one customer is above another paying customer. What am I going to do? Kick out a paying customer to accommodate you? No. I will not. Sorry, it's Friday or Saturday night. Wait like the rest of people.
But But what if one customer will pay more than the other? rockstar tips yo! Give them a special soup.
@@latentsea They can go F themselves. Odds are they won't tip as much on a $500 tab as someone would on a $100 tab.
@@latentseaall of rage for the machine would get a special soup if I worked there.
Learning that Tom Morello is friends with Ted Nugent was completely unexpected. 😳
It's a big club.
Not politically. Musically. He’s also friends with Chuck D and B Real. With Chuck it’s Politically and Musically
Like a creepy uncle sort of relationship. I’m guessing Tom knows Ted’s parole officer.
At least Nugent is AntiVax, RAGTM isn’t 💉
It's a guitar bond I'm guessing, can't deny the riffs from both.
They changed their name to "Rage On Behalf Of The Machine" now
I'm right with u
I came here to write that, but since you did, you have my support. Here is a like, good buddy.
They actually changed their name to “Rage Against the Inner Walls of Dylan Turner’s Little Boy Pussy”
Yep! What a bunch of hypocrites!
"Fuck yeah, I will do what you tell me..."
The cafe owner skinned Tom M’s ass alive 😂
🤣🤣🤣
No one say no to these adult children when they're famous.
Then when someone does, they have a temper tantrum.
Fuck we are weak little cowards in the west. 1/10 ppl would stand up for your rights while they watch you lose them.
Ya love to see it
He deserved it.
Tss oh you fawkin buried this cawksucka tss take us out ERock
The only bone of contention that anyone seems to have with anyone not named Tom Morello in Rage is the fact that they are signed to a major label. There have been rumors about "tensions," in the band from virtually its inception, and I believe that has been code for Zack and Tom don't see eye to eye. If Tom hadn't met Zack, he would have an entirely different artistic identity. He grew up worshipping 80s hair bands. He and De La Rocha could not be more diametrically opposed when it comes to their influences. In fact, Zack would probably make the collective Rock subculture gasp, when he decreed that "he doesn't really care for Black Sabbath."
As for Tim and Brad, I think they just wanted to be in a Successful band. It gets a little more complicated when you want to do this for a living. If you want to play for massive audiences, and make the highest quality albums possible. I think Zack just threw up his hands when dealing with Tom and that's why he eventually left the band. Tom wanted Rage to become even more of a juggernaut. If you listen to Zack's solo stuff, you'd realize this guy doesn't have a mainstream bone in his body.
Yeah inside out and lock up are quite different lol. But they both grew up similar racially, politically and both loved public enemy and Cypress hill.
Maynard James Keenan nearly became the vocalist of RATM. Imagine if that happened. Tom and Tim had a long talk on the phone eventually deciding to go with Zach as it made more sense for where the band was trying to go to.
It would've meant no Tool and a different path for RATM.
And boy…. Did Brad and Tim lay down some of the heaviest grooves in history… there better not be any argument with that sentiment. You cannot take that away from Rage.
@@Nick-xh6of No argument from me. Tim might be one of the all time Great Bassists in Rock History.
@@IceKoldKilla Tom and Tim? Zack brought in his childhood friend into the band, Tim.
Fugazi stands as the ONLY band that really dared to Rage Against the Machine, and did right to the mutual ending to the band. Had their own label, $5 all ages shows, set prices for their releases, still to this day. And they never had t shirts, minimal marketing, they made bands that dared to call themselves punk or hardcore PALE in comparison.
I used to have a tshirt back in the early ‘90’s that said “ This is not a Fugazi shirt” and it wasn’t.
@kevinmartin7354 Lol! Yep, that was the unofficial official NOT Fugazi shirt. Awesome ya had that. I remember seeing people with that shirt. Always wondered where people got that. And of course, that was totally pre-internet.
Fugazi sucks ass, it got nothing against RATM. Rage makes good music, Fugazi makes sh*t. And thats why noone ever heard of them and their message, because they are f*cking dumb, their message is like what? 20 miles wide, RATM is worldwide, and people join up for them because of SONY.
Apples and oranges.
Fugazi's goal as a band was simply to write genuine music they liked. RATM's goal as a band was to sound the alarm about social, political and economic injustice. As noble as Fugazi's cause may be, minimal marketing and DIY doesn't reach the maximum amount of listeners.
If someone has something amazing to say but no one hears it...
Tom never recovered from his cafe embarrassment in my eyes. He didn't even apologize or admit wrongdoing.
Kommunists never apologize...
@@palehorse1111 he's a self proclaimed socialist, not communist.
they are different things. ...it only takes a minute or two of googling to know what that difference is...
@@lvmonkey77 Yea, 1 is responsible for more genocide than all wars combined, and the other is supported by frauds and stupid rich kids who think they're the next Stephen hawking just because they skimmed 2 chapters from a Karl Marx book.
@@palehorse1111 You misspelled your own name, dude. It's PaleOhorse1111.
@@Haynombredisponible I don't get it.
I love that cafe owner's comeback at the end.
It actually wasn't very funny/ witty at all.
Maybe with a smooth brain, it could be..... 🤷♂️
@@nn647 2017 called, they want their sick burn back.
It wasn't meant to be funny or witty.
What an autistic and doltish take.
@@BuJammy you would know, wouldn't you?! 😉
Ya, because Seattle is now currently in such a great state of "liberal leftist utopia". 🤡
@@nn647
It reminds me of a Bill Hicks quote:
"Woohoo! Government-approved rock n' roll! We're partying now, right?"
🤣🤣🤣 Debbie Gibson has bigger balls than RATM! 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, not sure of her stances on anything, but, I stand by my comment! Lol!
I mean, it's a bit different having RATM on a major label than it is seeing an 80s popstar hawking Diet Coke.
"Oh I see what they're doing, they're going for that Anti-Capitalism dollar. They're smart to do that. Huge market. We've done research."
@@edlawn5481 Maybe they should just renounce their success and live in a specific income bracket and only sign to an obscure label just so they have a more authentic image since no one can make money doing what they love and have that kind of a message without being hypocrites.
@@whitelikejesusor quit pushing vaxx to go to their shitty shows. I’m glad they’re done for good.
was at coachella when they got back together. morello had a solo table signing nightwatchmen shit. the dude in front of us, one of the first people in line, had a rage tattoo up his whole side, but morello wouldn't sign anything for him because he wasn't carrying a copy of the nightwatchman album. this was at rage's first show in years, they were back together, but tom's security just pushed the dude away til he left.
That five point restaurant incident is pathetic
Good on the Five Points Cafe. Very entitled of Morello and glad they stood up to him.
That feud was like a male rockstar version of demi Lovato attacking a small frozen yogurt business. What a rude, childish, leftist male Karen Morello is.
Tom grew up rich, it's just his nature to be entitled.
Sounds like a Republican cafe owner
@@swarth8632 did you even watch the video or your brain instantly melts and goes “durrr they don’t agree with rage they right wing durrr nazi”
@@swarth8632 sounds like the least important or interesting detail in the situation.
People that attack capitalism while massively profiting from it are the absolute worst.
Exactly annoys the hell out of me.
He is a champagne socialist.
Clowns
Its like China
This is about as hard hitting as The Pit constantly trying to stir shit up between Metallica and Megadeth.
if after 30 years of public life, the worst anyone can dig up is me being a dick trying to get into a restaurant one time i figure i did ok
RATM became the machine
They were always rage for the machine. A lot has changed since the 90s, it's just easier to see now.
No, they still Rage Against the Machine, conservative.
@@WinterInTheForest nothing’s changed politically since the 90s. Conservatives and corporate liberals are still ineffective.
@@bgvo4373 RATM. 💉😷
@@bgvo4373 RAGTM is a corporate sponsored left wing authoritarian tool. Their lyrics and public statements have always represented that. Looking back it's plain to see because the Overton Window has shifted in this direction. Our political landscape has changed immensely in just the past decade. Life in the 90s was completely different.
Rage on behalf of the machine
OOOOH you beat me to it. DAMN!!!
Came here to say this 😂😂😂
@@CC-pc1gy And?? Do you have a problem with Jewish people?
Rage in Accordance With the Machine
Rage For The Regime
I’m from Seattle. I’ve been going to the 5-Point since 1990. It’s an old school Seattle institution. I also know Dave Meinert. He was one of the founders of the Capitol Hill Block Party. He’s involved in local politics and is definitely a supporter of the “little guy” and workers rights. Morello was coming out of his ass regarding this. Sounds like he got butt hurt because a killer dive bar was already full when he arrived. Petulant baby.
As a Venezuelan I can tell you the biggest example of Morello's and De La Rocha's hypocrisy for me personally is the fact that they've NEVER done a tour of free shows here in Venezuela. How come? Aren't they supposed to be champions of left-wing ideas? Venezuela has been under a left-wing government for the past 24 years.
It's because Venezuela isn't "cool commie" like Cuba is. I have no idea why American leftists have designated Cuba as a "cool commie" country, but they have with all the good praise they tend to give them.
I would do the free shows in Venezuela because I would fear that some people wouldn't be able to afford it.
"ThATS noT ReAl cOMmuNIsM"
You're making too much sense
Left wing doesn't mean free concerts. They charge so they can cover costs and pay their staff, which is a core belief of left wing ideology.
Now do what they told you
"EF YOU! BETTER RESPECT MY PRO-NOUNS!"
"Now you're under control"
@@BasementPepperoniwoke.
Bringing attention to social justice and fighting for causes, spreading consciousness, is doing what they told you sure
@@BasementPepperoniwhat gender do you identify? We will have everyone else calling you something other than what you identify. And maybe a middle age white dude will acquire empathy although
I doubt it
Tom do be the kind of guy to say “Oh you don’t wanna give me special treatment, okay you anti-worker, anti charity, dog kicker, cat strangler.”
The machine must have been really tough for Morello while he was at Harvard
Or not
Just because someone gets accepted into a big league university doesn't mean that they aren't anti authoritarian, same as just because someone has money doesn't mean they aren't anti authoritarian or against the larger structure as a whole. This isn't a kids game.
I'd say Tom Morello is serious as a heart attack considering his father was literally a guerilla in the Mau Mau uprising and a cabinet minister in Patrice Lamumbas government, obviously before Lumumba got assassinated (everyone suspects CIA).
So he’s not allowed to get an education?
Tf does that have to do with anything
@@arnelinsomniac
We're turning the right left
Forget politics. Tom is an amazing effect pedalist. When you only know 3 notes on the guitar, gotta be super good with that pedal.
😂
Doesn't Zack have a petal that turns singing into rap?
@@vertyisprobablydead He has a pedal that turns lyrics into a banal political soapbox
i play guitar. as a consequence i was curious about his signature pedal.
when it was announced on social media, almost none of the comments had anything to do with the pedal... like these comments, there were all about his politics. even then the comments were generally the sort where you could tell the person was angry but didn't really understand what they were talking about. They would toss out terms like communist and socialist, but clearly did not know what they meant, or how they were different things.
Music like all art, is subjective. And thats what the RATM/Morello thing is to me. A lesson on how passionately people get about things they clearly don't put any effort into understanding at any reasonable level to be so passionate and opinionated about.
im glad people realize hes not the guitar god anymore, which people did genuinely believe and compared him to untouchable actual gods.. For all the shit buckethead gets for using effects and consumer add ons, Tom should get 10x that and instead he usually receives in the negative levels. Its not shocking when people suck your ass all day, you begin to believe its worth sucking.
The cafe was the turn. That was the moment when the wool was honestly uncovered from my eyes. I love (mostly) what they stood/stand for, but like, paying $300 bucks to see a band comprised of rich members shit on capitalism is too ironic even for me.
That's what they charge? What a joke.
people don’t buy records anymore. How are they supposed to make a living! Wash dishes! Everyone charged hundreds of dollars for tickets now, that’s how the industry is now days. If you don’t want to pay $200 for a concert then stop stealing music/streaming and buy records again.
The idea that you can’t criticize capitalism if you participate in it is patently absurd. We live in a capitalist system. It is impossible to even have a voice in our society without participating in capitalism.
I think it’s very telling that De La Rocha took off on the band. Support their politics or not, I respect Zack for actually sticking to his beliefs and moving on when it became apparent that Tom’s ego and fake “working man” persona was the only agenda he was pushing. Also, on a purely artistic point, Tom Morello’s guitar tricks are cool when you’re 14. I find them to be repetitive and gimmicky now and really don’t think he’s that great of a guitarist. Oh well. Zack is still the man.
Zack De Le Rocha is just as much a hypocrite as Tom Morello is
Yeah, Zach Roach is a puke for many reasons in my book.
@@peteywheatstraws4909 could I know why?
I’ve honestly always found them extremely gimicky, his solos were so random and took away from the energy of the buildups and the chorus
@@tylervachon2439 In hindsight, I think as a highschooler I found them to be a lot better of a band than they were because I was angsty and wanted to "stick it to the man." As I grew up I realized that Tom Morello in particular was definitely part of "the man." And frankly the gimmick of the scratchy DJ guitar man shit started wearing pretty thin. When he actually plays more traditional solos they are shockingly amateur sounding.
"Really came off as a jerk"
Quote in the article: "didn't come off as a jerk"
This confused me so much. So disingenuous
Somebody get Mike a Pepsi already
Crystal Pepsi . Have him listen to Journey 2.0/Van Hagar's Right Now while he drinks it .
@@akfreed6949 Soon as I saw Crystal Pepsi I thought of that song. Good song!
The fact that nobody has gotten Mike a fuckin Pepsi after all of these years, is about as crazy as seeing Charles Manson eating Fruit Loops on your front porch.
This is the deepest comment on all of TH-cam. So few people can truly appreciate this.
Rage should play a benefit concert to help Bernie Sanders buy another house.
Like MAGA Nungent
Or to buy AOC another designer dress for next year's snooty gala banquet.
@@imalwaysright is nugget still a pedo?
he has songs about wanting to bang young teenagers (jail bait), and was in a relationship with a young teenager for a while, that he adopted, for that purpose, supposedly... oh, the irony.
@@archstanton4365 they renting to promote their brand. The companies get a tax write off because charity.
@Fresh Dindu Muffins Typical NPC outs themselves with more simple-minded assumptions.
"Cruising down Rodeo with a shotgun" lol a few years later him and the entire band live less than 30 miles away from Rodeo Drive and shop there often 😆
I grew up in the 90s and rage were in every music magazine and radio interviews and mtv constantly talking about rich people were bad and big corporations were bad. Its comical seeing how wealthy these guys became yet hating rich people
It's one thing you having a talent, band, making good music, playing, touring and then some managers, CEO's and shit living of off other people's talent and work.
How idiots like you can't see the difference is beyond me.
They aren't realy rich though compared to other artists. But I guess Fascist must hate someone, pick on the small fry thats what they do, just like you do.
Fugazi is proof you don't need a major corporation backing you to become huge, and people will take you more seriously if your message is largely an opposition to corporate capitalism. Fugazi didn't give interviews to media outlets that advertise alcohol and cigarettes; you don't even need to do that, so your reach can be wider. RATM was always corporate rock. They had good music, but the rest is like a gimmick; there's a million legit punk bands who have the same kind of message, and I'd rather listen to them where the message is concerned.
I always liked RATM's songs but never looked into anything about them. I guess because I don't care what rock stars think. I will have to look up this Fugazi band. I have heard the name before but don't think I know any of their stuff. Thanks.
I don't agree with much of Fugazi's politics but they atleast stayed true to their beliefs.
@@wannabescrapper72their song blueprint is a recommend
@Leon Corbett just checked it out. Pretty solid.
Glad I never listened to Fugazi. What a bunch of babies.
Now they Rage Against those who Rage Against The Machine
Rage For The Machine
🎵Fuck you, you better do what they tell you🎵
the people "raging against the machine" now are basically nutters and terrorists
Classic fake 90s rebellion
Right wingers are still raging for the machine, theve just been duped into thinking theyre the oppressed. Theyre all weasels.
lol, why anyone would ever give a single shit what the singer of Skillet thinks is beyond me
RATM played Coachella that’s all you need to know
💯
The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.
My Grandfather use to say that sometimes a Hero can fight so long and so hard that he eventually becomes the villain in his own story. This for me is the embodiment of what Rage against the Machine is. They have quite literally lived to long. I can't even listening to their music I just feel so disgusted by being fooled by their hypocrisy in my youth.
You mean you heard from a batman movie, your grandpa didn't say that
@@xR0N1Nx Geeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzz you uneducated product of the public school system 🤦♂️ Yes Harvey Dent said something similar in fact his whole story in the Dark Knight is the embodiment of what Frederick Nietzsche the famous 19th century philosopher said “he who fights monsters should take care that in so doing he not become one because as you stare into that abyss it stares back into you and changes you". If you had done just a modicum of research you would know that
What Nietzsche meant by this is that as you the Hero fight your Villain in your violence you become upon vanquishing the villain some elses villain. Thus you have lived to long, this is why Nietzsche said it's better for Heroes to die young and thus always be a Hero and not grow old and jaded becoming the villain for the next generations Heros. He called this the cycle of society as each new generation needs Heros and villains….. SOUNDS REALLY SIMILAR TO YOUR BATMAN MOVIE DON'T IT!!!!!! BUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTT who cares cause you watched a Batman movie with it's bastardization of knowledge while I talked to my Grandfather who actually read Nietzsche….you probably don't even know who your Grandfather is 🤦♂️ Geeeeez.
Shit man I feel ya on that one
i totally feel the same way. im like ashamed i was duped into liking their music and message.
things his grandfather didn't say for $500, alex
"Why Rockstars & People Can't Stand Rage Against the Machine & Tom Morello".
Hmm, it's a complete mystery.
Mostly cause they're butthurt conservative snowflakes who disagree with their message.
Rage was one of the first bands I really got into growing up that introduced me to rock and heavier forms of music, and as a fifteen-year-old kid the whole Anarchy thing seems so freaking cool and so on. But as the years have gone on Tom Morello has become the most pretentious sanctimonious unbearable person to listen to on almost any topic. I understand why Zach couldn't deal with it anymore. Sure they blame the Tim commerford incident on him leaving initially which maybe that was the final straw but I have a feeling it boiled down to more of a control issue and things of that nature behind-the-scenes.
Do you think Zac got to a point where he was sick of having to say ""fuck u I won't do what you tell me." go Tom?
Tom Morello is a c o m m i e ... enough said.
Cracks me up when people claim "rage changed".
Sony released their debute, and all their releases. Major mainstream airplay. Morello is a political science graduate, I can keep on going. The machine they claim they oppose helped their fame.
I like Rage as an entertainment.
what's wrong with being a political science graduate?
@@mysillygirl ...when did I say it was wrong ....?
Or did you assumed?
@@led.zepper You imply that it is wrong. Why bring it up when listing other fallacies if you do not think it is wrong?
you can't have the reach that they did without engaging with the system at all.
and what even is the machine? they sang about the military industrial complex, corporate media, the police, the government, institutions riddled with racism. where do record labels stand in that group? surely they're not the backbone of exploitation in the country. i don't think the net exploitation in the world increased by them being published by sony.
SHILLING IN THE NAME OF!!!!
😅
Points awarded!!!
How about starting a new RATM? Rage Against Tom Morello.
🤣
👏👏👏
I love RATM but at the same time they lost their way. It was bound to happen
Last summer they were charging $190 for the cheapest seats at my local arena. You can blame Ticketmaster for this, but this $190 was before they add all their processing fees.
Yeah. The high price claim was"for charity" or some dumb ass capitalist lie😅
Shilling In The Name Of
Simp for the machine
How’s the Big Guy doing
I like this idea of Nugent and Morello meeting at a bar regularly and just getting into political debates like it's nothing.
Sadly they probably dont debate. Tom is definitely a liberal performer and probably caves in on his ideals
I would watch that.
Literally everyone should be able to get into political debates.. people have lost the art of conversation, now its all just yell your side the loudest.
I can see Uncle Ted outarguing Tom even if Ted knew he was on the wrong side of a position. He's argued against so many vegetarian antigunners he's pretty good.
@@GTFBITK Tom is a political scholar, so facts matter, Ted uses feelings. So he would loose to any people with facts, but like many others facts and evidence doesn't matter, you probably belong in this group based on your comment.
ratm : down with cApiTaLisM
Also ratm: This t-shirt costs $45
i don't think they are making their own tshirts. i doubt they are all that involved in the selling of them, either.
@@lvmonkey77 Are you retarded?
@@lvmonkey77 I am sure that they get a cut of the merch
@@lvmonkey77 Even if they weren't, if they had even an ounce of integrity then they'd either have fought back against such profiteering or spoken out against it. To my knowledge, they did neither, but then again, champagne socialists tend to complain a lot less when they're making money.
@@lvmonkey77they 100% are , you have no clue how the merch works
Count me in.
1992- F you, I won't do what you tell me
2023-Do what they tell you.
"Now you're under control"
There's a reason they're called "Rage For The Machine." Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
RATM Schilling in the name of
good one
dadah...dadah...yeah you schill what they tell ya...dadah...dadah
sounds like you just realised what the lyrics meant... what more than 20 years after they came out?
This message brought to you by fiighzer.
Tom found out even rich commies still gotta go through the doorman and crying about it on twitter doesn't always help 😂
communist =/= socialist.
A quick googling will tell you that.
@@lvmonkey77 kind of splitting hairs, aren't you? For pragmatic purposes, the end result is the same.
@@lvmonkey77 Communism= Marxist socialism. So yes, Communism is a branch of socialism (as are Nazism and Fascism).
Of cource, the corporate-owned search engine is going to try to downplay the socialism at the core of communism.
It must be tough being a multi-millionaire member of Rage. ;)
Oh boo hoo! let's throw a pity party for the millionaire entitled crybaby! Let's cry tears of pity for the whiny corporate Rock star hypocrite!
So....conservative rockers don't like a Leftist band. In other news: Water is wet.
We liked them till they raged for the machine 😂 you just don't see it . They support what they sing against now😂
It's not just conservatives.
@@BlackoutPatriot stop using emojis it's making me cringe
@@jayyello 😀😃😄😁😂😂😂😂😂😘
@@BlackoutPatriot such a comedy genius
They're a one trick pony that thinks they're brilliant
The owner should start his own band, he sounds badass
He could name that bad Rage Against Rage Against The Machine
The Jackman Five
I’m thinking “Boo Boo Feelings Against The Machine”…
Wage Against The Machine
@@chuppoacobra what if an angered Tom Morello formed Rage Against the Machine that Raged Against the Machine that Raged Against the Machine in response?
Anytime you have an artist or band that centers their music around politics- you can always expect a shitstorm either from the fans, or the band. Or both.
Yep. Its always been one of those subjects that starts arguments. The more far from center yuor views are, and the more adamant you are about them, the more divisive youll be.
Add that to a society thats highly polarized... you're guaranteed to piss off as many as you attract.
I dont begrudge anyone for making a living or being successful. It does look pretty bad though when you scream anti capitolism from the rooftops, while becoming successful because of it. And being preached at gets old...
@@pyroman6000 if they’re good at what they do, wont success follow them regardless of their political views? One could argue that they signed with a major label company to spread their music to reach a bigger audience
great point
2000: Rage Against The Machine
2020: Rage Of The Machine
2023: Rage on behalf of Big Pharma and global elites
@@a.d.4536 you’re so delusional. Conservatives support big pharma.
@@a.d.4536 what global elites?
Raging Boner For The Machine
@@bgvo4373 the rich/people who are running the world
*Rage For the Machine.
They raged against the Machine, and the Machine won 😢
The machine always wins.
Now they're under control
Tom morello believe Mumia abu Jamal is innocent. That tells me everything I need to know.
That cafe owner is a legend lmao. W guy
"5 Points" is one of our favorite dive bar/café in Seattle. We've been going there at least once a week for almost 25 years.
Rag Against the Machine is more like it. Preach the revolution all the way to your mansion.
Dudes got nice gates
Now I want to visit 5 Point Café in Seattle, even if I have to wait. What an awesome response from the owner!
I think RATM perfectly embodies "if you stare into the abyss too long, the abyss stares back at you." I agree with exactly 0% of their politics, but I believe they truly did believe in their message in the beginning and I respect them for doing everything it took to get that message across to fans, even if that meant crawling into bed with the Devil. But it just took its toll on them and they started to believe their shit didn't stink. They became like Stan in that anti-bullying episode of South Park. All that's left is to end up jackin it in San Diego...
I like the comment but I think you give them too much credit. I think it started out as a talented band that needed a gimmick and it snowballed from there
as soon as money started rollin in, they whored themselves out.
If you 0% never even agreed with Rage’s initial politics, you might be a establishment sociopath corporatist defender of vulture capitalist, unjustifiably championing a bastardized perversion of democracy, amounting socialism for the ultra rich oligarchs, and rugged individualism for rest of the masses of ripped off scammed citizens getting more and more down graded from citizens into dumbed down consumers misled in dystopia, brainwashed to be unwitting supporters of the 2 parties of Wall Street are eagerly hollowing out the US for unjustifiable endless forever Boomer wars of greed?…🙈
@@derangedhermit2879 its not just america to blame, guy. its so easy to blame america, while living here enjoying your freedom, meanwhile pointing out how great other countries are. hate the US all you want, while leaving.
@@derangedhermit2879 No, it just means you're not a commie scumbag...
DIDN'T TOM MORRELLO HAVE A GUITAR THAT SAID 'ARM THE HOMELESS" ?
He did. I never thought that would be a good idea😂
Hell yeah nothing screams revolution more than getting mugged by a homeless person just cuz I didn't give him any spare crack money
Jokes on him. They're already armed
might be a misspelling
He also had a guitar that said "Shining Path" the biggest terrorist group in my country.
I think it’s interesting how rage have been left and SUPER LEFT at that … read the lyrics to bulls on parade and see if there’s been a change (spoiler alert , there hasn’t been ) and the issue isn’t rage is for the machine, the issue is poor media literacy , you never knew and potentially never agreed with their politics to begin with .
There hasn’t been a change nobody is making that claim. They’ve always been frauds. Rich privileged half Jewish Zack de la rocha and Harvard grad Tom morello. Rage against half the machine 😂😂
THANK YOU
From... "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!" To... "Fuck yeah, I'll do what you tell me!"
He's still not armed one homeless
It's been over a decade since I could listen to RATM's music due to the hypocrisy.
It's been 2 decades since they released any.
Their new album should be called “Hypocrisy”
I'm amazed that you were ever able to listen to Ratm's music. 😳
Rage has been exposed for being the gimps they are.
I think the getting denied at 5 point and ending up iHop is hilarious being put in your place type of story.
Fuck RATM. Back in 1997, some of my friends and I went to see 311 ,who were playing 5 minutes away, while some other friends of mine drove an hour to Worcester to see RATM. I had a great time at the 311 show, while my friends in Worcester had to wait an hour or so for Rage to come on stage after the opener cuz Zack was throwing a hissy fit about some shit and wouldn't get in his limo.
Because they became the machine
They always were. People pointed out in 90s how they were signed to Sony, yet acting like anti-corporate.
Real dic move by Morello, "uhhhh like, does the owner like RATM? A hurrdurr" it sucks money and fame changes people into this, sometimes with even just 50k followers.
Rage was never anti government or anti the establishment or machine. They just wanted the government/establishment/machine to agree with their views and enforce their views.
Correct. They got what they wanted.
They are Rage For the Machine now. Bowing for the censors is death to art.
Rage against the machine but also do what the machine tells you
If ratm was really about whom and what they say, then ALL of their concerts would be free.
Instead, they're reunion tour tickets were $200.
That's ridiculous
If all their haters were what they say they are, they would be OK with RATM charging for concerts. Not scamming, underpaying suppliers, workers
@@imalwaysright I'd be OK if they charged $50 or so but $200? That's crazy. I saw GWAR and three other bands for $45 and that show was crazy.
They’d give away theirs albums for free and take poverty vows.
Rage in 1994: “F@&$ You I won’t do what you tell me!”
Rage in 2021: “You better shut up and do what they tell you!”
Corny
There are many machines that you can rage against, not just the big corporate type, Zack’s lyrics point to a lot of Government corruption and social unrest.
And if you look at their three albums, they never lost their message like other bands have on their rise to fame. Even the cover album still stays true to the idea of raising issues that others don’t want to know about.
Tom Morello is a c o m m i e ... enough said.
Most of their music is directed at oppressive governments. I can't see anything wrong with that.
💯 … these clown are outraged that they didn’t give their work for free… pfff .Main topics they brought up that have nothing to w/ free market …police brutality, systemic racism, big brother watching you, and anti NAFTA and supporting ELZN in Mexico !! They highlighted the corporatocracy that runs our government. Do top level government official run record labels after they serve ??? No they don’t
Mike Muir is a genius, his band being called old is ironic...they are old, and better. More thought provoking, definitely better musicians and song writers if you haven't listened to the Infectious Grooves or Suicidal Tendencies you should, you'll even hear Trujillo playing bass, not open strings to cover up Lars on drums playing who the fuck knows what time signature ffffourfafour..
Raging for the machine..
I love Rage For the Machine
Name all the communist dictators they’ve heaped praises on
Chris Cornell the legend!☝️🙏
They performed at Coachella
Nuff said
and Woodstock '99
what does that say?..
Not really a fan of Rage, but I love Audioslave, and I must say that Tom Morello is a clown
First Audioslave album was RATM musicians greatest moment, IMO
@@TrevorLahey3 Agree
you might be shocked by this.... but take a moment to look up chris cornells political leanings. you might want to be seated when you look it up.
@@lvmonkey77 my advice to any non lefty is to not ever look up the political leanings of ANY one in the entertainment industry…and also not to trust that an entertainer is telling the whole truth about which side of the fence they’re on - because if they say anything other than liberal…their career could be over. Not to mention, they are completely surrounded by sheep spewing out misinformation
@@lvmonkey77 I’ll say one thing though - digging up dirt on the child trafficking ring and all the pedos in high power certainly wasn’t very democratic of him, was it?
So, Skillet, Nugent, Mike Muir & a diner-owner hate Rage & Morello. A real cross-section of life ya got here.
Used to be Against The Machine. Now They Are The Commies. F Them.
Lol. He wants the minimum wage raised to $15 but I bet his tickets were $40
15 dollar min wage means you still can't afford his $250 shows.
I like the music too. Can’t be bothered with the politics. They seem to have become the very things they despised.
They were fine in the 90s but I just don't know what they're angry about now.
Rage for the Machine
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THEM RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. AMEN Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲❤️
I don't really care if you think I'm strange I ain't going to change---Joan Jett
@@ladyhonor822 tom is that you?
I think a lot of us went through a phase of hating on corporate bands because we thought we were keeping it real… but as your paradigm expands you start to see that none of it matters in the grand scheme of things. Bands like NOFX still came out on top by staying independent.
P.O.S.E.R.S always has been, always will be....
I have been to the Five Point Cafe once in 2003. A good place to eat and drink.
Goes to show the ultimate counter culture is among those with willingness to attempt nuance, even if they will ultimately lose to a culture regardless of the time period in question. RATM is now the establishment and the band mates have decided against nuance.