Oh, it is different from the Gojuryu SUPARIMPEI. And it is good too. The difference between them is just fine, not too different and not too same. We can say that it is another UNDERSTANDING OF SUPARIMPEI. That is perfect. And the announcer（sorry I google the word, I meant the man who say something besides） know much about karate than in my country.
Is there a list of Shotokan katas anywhere? The lists I see never include this one, only have the first version of Meikyo, and often leave out Jiin and Wankan.
same case here, we saw in national competitions in england once back then 2014. its so refreshing to see some kata that is not done before, or done so little that is forgoten almost. Jasmin done this kata on a top athlete level
@@karateklubselters Yeah Absolutely, I see that its wasn’t even announced by her Hyakuhapo/Hyakuhachiho but rather Suparenpei. Must be that its not its own kata on the WKF master list, and this is just a valid schools interpretation. Would be cool to see other Shotokanized kata like this.
@@TheShiiteOffensive not a clear version of the kata. it doesn't look like suparimpey. In JKS, the version is more interesting and similar to suparimpey 2001 Arai Sensei
@@alexivanov1059 Yeah, there's not much footage of this kata out there. Thats why I was so surprised to see such a peculiar style. Do you have any videos of Asai-ryu version?
Is it true shotokan have a suparimpei kata? But why not Hyakuhachiho kata? Because the meaning of hyakuhachiho and suparimpei is 108? Well, Jasmine... Good performance. 👍
This is very athletic the lady is very talented indeed but not the original version of hyakuhachiho and, i direct people to look up the Arai sensei version which more resembles suparinpei. The issue i have is that by changing the moves you also change the tracable application which can become lost or misinterpreted, this is why self defence training becomes a headache. I don't know why shotokan had to screw around with kata that were fine the way they were, just for competition. if people dont like what i say well your free to your opinion, and i happen to be a shotokan practitioner, and let me just say i have many criticisms of the art, but i do hope people will look up the version of this kata performed by Arai sensei.....judge for yourselves.
@@karateklubselters Karate is the most useless martial art around. Better not to practice than to practice something that doesn't make sense just to legitimize degrees, diplomas and belts.
@@artimarzialiefitness-aless6034 look man, if you writing like this, its clear you dont understand what you writing about, so enjoy what you’re doing and practicing, and be postitive
@@karateklubseltersIf you had the slightest idea what it means to practice a martial art you would be ashamed of yourself. Karate today is just a business for federations and sporting event organizations and an illusion for fools. You, continue to delude yourself. What I practice, you would not be able to practice even if you lived ten lives.
@@artimarzialiefitness-aless6034 muestra un poco de respeto hombre, ni siquiera conoces al creador del canal y ya le estás diciendo que puede y que no puede hacer ,y para ser prácticante de artes marciales eres muy malo en escéncia ya que eres muy arrogante con lo que dices y te crees superior a los demás, parece que a ti solo te enseñaron técnicas y ya , no te enseñaron el respeto? Amabilidad? Tolerancia? Para hablar sobre un arte marcial debes conocer de ella y haberla practicado durante mucho tiempo ,así que no vengas a menospreciar el karate , yo te puedo confirmar que si sirve porque me salvo la vida, porque me intentaron asaltar con un arma blanca y gracias a qué en ese entonces ya practicaba karate pude defenderme y salvarme. Así que ve a otro lado a decir tu basura .
You are rude, and sweeping statements like yours are stupid, to boot. I wonder, then, why the young woman we are seeing perform here is a world champion in kata...strange.
Maybe is little bit dramatized, but in that drill and wish to qualify for Olympics you cant guarantee that you’ve been more dramatic in the same position as Jasmin, btw she qualified for Olympic’s
@@tinotrivino That's not nice. What happened to being a good sport. Isn't that what karate teaches or you truly lost the meaning. In karate it is important to respect!
In fact it is not apocryphal kata, its official kata, recognized by many masters across the world, master Kanazawa developed this kata from Suparimpei, and believe me my friend its not easy at it seems to develop something, or derive from, it must be done by the hand of a master, and Kanazawa was 10th Dan, and done many great things for karate, so respectfully we say it’s done a pretty good job. The athlete Jamin on video did great kata as Valdesi says in commentary, and she have that zanshin (in karate sport manner), you see her fight in fact when she do a kata.
@@karateklubselters I see what you mean. My comment was perhaps a bit extreme, so I apologize. Maybe I’m just too much into traditional karate, so I’m not very open to evolution. That’s why I perceive as unnecessary the adoption of Suparimpei by Shotokan. Nonetheless, I do see the athlete did great for WKF standards. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but one also needs fudoshin and zanshin and everything “shin”, indeed, to perform at that level under that kind of stress. So, yes, not my thing, but yes, she’s still phenomenal. 👊
@@DrZorrow no need for apologies friend, we also practice traditional way and keep the way of karate alive, but as everything as life must evolve even karate, so we must accept the good things and filter bad.
But most of the modern styles has an "adaptation" kata from an oldest line, most of Shotokan kata are an adaptation of Okinawan Shuri-te Katas, same happens with Shito-Ryu.
Hyakuhashiho was referenced by Nakayama sensei in Best Karate. So not so apocryphal. Kata's tell a story adapted by the messenger. How many versions for Bassai/Passai are there? I do agree with your WKF. I'm too much a child of 1980's JKA.
Technique parfaite, même le masque les cris et les pas finaux, quel sakki lol Personnellement je préfère l'exécution par les maîtres japonais avec le travail du Hara et sans signe extérieur d'agressivité ridicule
This is horrible. This is a Goju Ryu kata. What the heck is this non-sense? I see zero Goju Ryu. How is this even allowed in competition? This is not Suparenpei. Didn't Kanazawa get excommunicated from Shotokan a long time ago anyway?
Karate-robot Juettner, the barking dog. Karate at its lowest. The WKF circus becomes more and more ridiculous and is not far away from american show karate anymore.
I actually dislike this with a passion !!! It’s robotic , lacks personality and is merely an athletic dance . There is zero martial spirit involved at all . Artificial in nature like all WKF kata . It’s kata of the Instagram age . Commercial vaudeville.
@Real Aiglon the facial expressions and samurai act is hilarious 😂 . Seriously she’d shit herself if she ever had to fight someone for real . They are all plastic karateka . I competed in my youth in the mid 1980’s to early 1990’s and it was a very robust environment , where trips to the hospital emergency department were not unheard of . It was the golden age of shotokan kumite and kata competition. Now you do only kata or only kumite , well what they call kata and kumite . It isn’t , it’s a joke .! 🤷♂️🥋🇬🇧😁
Just when I thought Kyokushinkai had deformed (defiled would be a better term) a few Goju katas, now this. Horrible version of Suparimpei kata. Same goes for the Kanazawa version, horrible. If you want to learn kata from other styles, go practice that style as well (I have done exactly that) please don't come and defile a good traditional kata under false pretenses just because it is another big Japanese organization incorporated by a grand master and rename it in a similar fashion. Yeah, its creative, blah blah. Still a defilement.
Nakayama talked about this kata in Shotokan. Kyokushinkai is related to goju ryu lol. And even with Shotokan. Lol. And kata are similar. Shotokan is made up of several Tote schools. The division into styles has been condemned by many, starting with Funakoshi. What desecration are you talking about?
@@gray6032 Let’s keep things in context. Kyokushinkai borrowed from Shotokan and Goju Ryu because Oyama studied both, then modified some kata and Kyokushinkerized them as us old timers say. Me, being dan holder in all 3 of those styles( yes I am that old) can tell the difference, so the “desecration” I am referring to is Suparimpei, this Shotokan version looks more as if General Choi from Taekwondo adapted it instead of Shotokan. That’s what I am talking about, so, go, do some research on the technical aspects of Goju Ryu Suparimpei because you obviously don’t know it. That said, kata for me now (after more than 45 years in this racket) is only calisthenics. Good day.
@@jvliv435 That is, not a single version of the Suparinpei in Shotokan is satisfied? Do you have a level in several styles, and consider kata - gymnastics? Why?
@@gray6032 I said calisthenics, not gymnastics, read carefully before you type, don’t let your fingers do the job of your brain. There is consensus among expert trainers and fighters that kata is not practical for real combat and in my case, they make good warmup exercises and good for motor skill coordination and development, and for rainy days when I get bored indoors. No more, no less. As for the answer of your question if I have a level in several styles,read my previous post, the answer is there. Obviously you didn’t read it, just jumping into a discussion mindlessly. Have a good day.
@@jvliv435 I am no longer leading a discussion, I agree with a lot of what you write. I realized that you have a level in several schools) I wrote about this, perhaps the translator distorts the meaning. Yes, I saw what you said "calisthenics". I just simplified. And I asked not about the practicality of Kata. I asked - do you not like all the variants of Suparinpei in Shotokan?. Kata has been adapted before, maybe the same will happen in the future? Kanku dai is available in many styles, for example.
Damn cool....the best of this Kata I've seen so far on TH-cam. Thanks for sharing
Lol, really?
@@frontenac5083 yh, pls refer me to other ones
Best shown so far! Precise, strong, concentrated! Simply said...great !! Oss 🥋
Beautiful performance! I still like more the Kanazawa version, it’s the one that i learned
He does this kata? Where can I see it?
Hyaku(100)hachi(8)ho(steps) 108, and suparinpei means 108.
Ouw.. That's the meaning of hyakuhachiho (shotokan version) of suparimpei.
Okay. Thankyou. 🙂
In the Shotokan style, is this kata performed in two ways? Asai version and Kanazawa?
That’s right
Oh, it is different from the Gojuryu SUPARIMPEI. And it is good too. The difference between them is just fine, not too different and not too same. We can say that it is another UNDERSTANDING OF SUPARIMPEI. That is perfect. And the announcer（sorry I google the word, I meant the man who say something besides） know much about karate than in my country.
Que manera de desvirtuar un Kata.
Hermosa presentación!! Amo a jasmin!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
There are 2 versions of Hyakuhachiho. This one I find less true to Superempi. Well done performance. This is NOT the Kanazawa version.
Do you have a link to Kanazawa's version?
Yes do u? I want to see Kanazawa version
th-cam.com/video/GtjmOsi0SO0/w-d-xo.html
Asai performing in 2001.
I was happy to see this response. I was about to ask, “why is it Shotokan likes to borrow kata from other styles and leave off the ending?”
Do you mean the kata Kanazawa developed, Nijuhachiho?
Perfection.
Very wonderful 👍
Is there a list of Shotokan katas anywhere? The lists I see never include this one, only have the first version of Meikyo, and often leave out Jiin and Wankan.
Its in official list of wkf with name suparipmei, but its hyakuhachiho wich is similar
So good
Awesome
Damn! Super fast hands. This kata will wear you out unless you know how not to use your shoulders,
what kind of mawashi uke is that?
They really messed up the Goju kata.
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Bravoooo!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Мастер.круто лучшая.поклон из России.
Wow that is so cool! I haven't seen this performed in a WKF competition before, Sensei Kanazawa loved this kata.
same case here, we saw in national competitions in england once back then 2014. its so refreshing to see some kata that is not done before, or done so little that is forgoten almost.
Jasmin done this kata on a top athlete level
@@karateklubselters Yeah Absolutely, I see that its wasn’t even announced by her Hyakuhapo/Hyakuhachiho but rather Suparenpei. Must be that its not its own kata on the WKF master list, and this is just a valid schools interpretation. Would be cool to see other Shotokanized kata like this.
@@TheShiiteOffensive yeah yeah its because of wkf regulations and ryu-ha, it would be nice ofcourse to see more shotokan versions
@@TheShiiteOffensive not a clear version of the kata. it doesn't look like suparimpey. In JKS, the version is more interesting and similar to suparimpey 2001 Arai Sensei
@@alexivanov1059 Yeah, there's not much footage of this kata out there. Thats why I was so surprised to see such a peculiar style. Do you have any videos of Asai-ryu version?
Kata raw3a machaa lah
Super kata.it's realy superb
Well performed kata. A delight to watch. However, this is not Kanazawa sensei's version of Hayakuhachi ho. Slightly different.
Très bien...
That is Karate dinamic..suparumpei deferend styles gojuryu or shotokan version but..stil..beautiful kata
She is very good
There is a written part in WKF rules where a player who uses edible cues will be deducted points but I don't think that rule is applied anymore.
Edible? Did she eat something?
*audible. She makes really strong noises with her mouth. Even "whoosh" sound for some slower movements which was kind of odd really.
Is it true shotokan have a suparimpei kata? But why not Hyakuhachiho kata? Because the meaning of hyakuhachiho and suparimpei is 108?
Well, Jasmine... Good performance. 👍
Good Very good
This is very athletic the lady is very talented indeed but not the original version of hyakuhachiho and, i direct people to look up the Arai sensei version which more resembles suparinpei. The issue i have is that by changing the moves you also change the tracable application which can become lost or misinterpreted, this is why self defence training becomes a headache. I don't know why shotokan had to screw around with kata that were fine the way they were, just for competition.
if people dont like what i say well your free to your opinion, and i happen to be a shotokan practitioner, and let me just say i have many criticisms of the art, but i do hope people will look up the version of this kata performed by Arai sensei.....judge for yourselves.
If prople like you had a say in anything, there would be no cultural exchange ever, anywhere.
Splendide.
If this is the Shotokan kata of Hyakuhachiho, then I'm the Pope.
Ini kata nomor berapa di list 102 kata wkf?
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Kata were created to be a reminder of techniques to use when needed. Not a soulless ballet to show to the public.
Kata were created to be practiced, understand and use when it needed.
If there wasn’t that “ballet”, many dont even know karate exist at all
@@karateklubselters Karate is the most useless martial art around. Better not to practice than to practice something that doesn't make sense just to legitimize degrees, diplomas and belts.
@@artimarzialiefitness-aless6034 look man, if you writing like this, its clear you dont understand what you writing about, so enjoy what you’re doing and practicing, and be postitive
@@karateklubseltersIf you had the slightest idea what it means to practice a martial art you would be ashamed of yourself. Karate today is just a business for federations and sporting event organizations and an illusion for fools. You, continue to delude yourself. What I practice, you would not be able to practice even if you lived ten lives.
@@artimarzialiefitness-aless6034 muestra un poco de respeto hombre, ni siquiera conoces al creador del canal y ya le estás diciendo que puede y que no puede hacer ,y para ser prácticante de artes marciales eres muy malo en escéncia ya que eres muy arrogante con lo que dices y te crees superior a los demás, parece que a ti solo te enseñaron técnicas y ya , no te enseñaron el respeto? Amabilidad? Tolerancia?
Para hablar sobre un arte marcial debes conocer de ella y haberla practicado durante mucho tiempo ,así que no vengas a menospreciar el karate , yo te puedo confirmar que si sirve porque me salvo la vida, porque me intentaron asaltar con un arma blanca y gracias a qué en ese entonces ya practicaba karate pude defenderme y salvarme. Así que ve a otro lado a decir tu basura .
I am the one thousandths like
Shotokan?
Without being rude, but germans never understood kata in competition. Hugs from spain
You are rude, and sweeping statements like yours are stupid, to boot. I wonder, then, why the young woman we are seeing perform here is a world champion in kata...strange.
kata good, technique good, attitude.....too much lol
Maybe is little bit dramatized, but in that drill and wish to qualify for Olympics you cant guarantee that you’ve been more dramatic in the same position as Jasmin, btw she qualified for Olympic’s
@@karateklubselters and lost. Our Sandra from Spain won lol
@@tinotrivino That's not nice. What happened to being a good sport. Isn't that what karate teaches or you truly lost the meaning. In karate it is important to respect!
@Real Aiglon Indeed it is! 🥴😅
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍🥋🥊
Puta que pariu.no shotokan nem tem esse kata ele é do gojuryu.e a inda desfiguraram o kata só podia ser a wkf
Nakayama mentioned her
Outstanding!
3:29 First Kiai
Almost superhuman !
Good athletic and technical performance, but it lacks of substance and that’s in addition an apocryphal kata. The WKF is distorting karate, sadly. 😖
In fact it is not apocryphal kata, its official kata, recognized by many masters across the world, master Kanazawa developed this kata from Suparimpei, and believe me my friend its not easy at it seems to develop something, or derive from, it must be done by the hand of a master, and Kanazawa was 10th Dan, and done many great things for karate, so respectfully we say it’s done a pretty good job. The athlete Jamin on video did great kata as Valdesi says in commentary, and she have that zanshin (in karate sport manner), you see her fight in fact when she do a kata.
@@karateklubselters I see what you mean. My comment was perhaps a bit extreme, so I apologize. Maybe I’m just too much into traditional karate, so I’m not very open to evolution. That’s why I perceive as unnecessary the adoption of Suparimpei by Shotokan. Nonetheless, I do see the athlete did great for WKF standards. Not necessarily my cup of tea, but one also needs fudoshin and zanshin and everything “shin”, indeed, to perform at that level under that kind of stress. So, yes, not my thing, but yes, she’s still phenomenal. 👊
@@DrZorrow no need for apologies friend, we also practice traditional way and keep the way of karate alive, but as everything as life must evolve even karate, so we must accept the good things and filter bad.
But most of the modern styles has an "adaptation" kata from an oldest line, most of Shotokan kata are an adaptation of Okinawan Shuri-te Katas, same happens with Shito-Ryu.
Hyakuhashiho was referenced by Nakayama sensei in Best Karate. So not so apocryphal. Kata's tell a story adapted by the messenger. How many versions for Bassai/Passai are there? I do agree with your WKF. I'm too much a child of 1980's JKA.
UTTERLY RIDICULOUS !!! 😬😬😬🥶
Technique parfaite, même le masque les cris et les pas finaux, quel sakki lol
Personnellement je préfère l'exécution par les maîtres japonais avec le travail du Hara et sans signe extérieur d'agressivité ridicule
Her face 😂
teach me your kata, suparinpei shotokan version, please give a link
Hya
Osu!
What an actress! Very funny!!!
Jesus loves you 💖
Yyy
Beautiful performance. She just lacks a little power in her striking but other nicely done. Elgin Sensei Shichidan Shotokan
Eso no es Shotokan
Превратили каратэ в клоунаду
This is horrible. This is a Goju Ryu kata. What the heck is this non-sense? I see zero Goju Ryu. How is this even allowed in competition? This is not Suparenpei. Didn't Kanazawa get excommunicated from Shotokan a long time ago anyway?
Superbe kata ! Mais trop de grimaces...une vraie teutonne !
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Karate-robot Juettner, the barking dog. Karate at its lowest. The WKF circus becomes more and more ridiculous and is not far away from american show karate anymore.
tardó un minuto en empezar! no sabe respirar y hace muchas caritas no me gusta
Clearly she or they have no understanding of the techniques of this kata. Learn properly don’t just copy.
can i see your kata pls?
@@jaspermovilla1205 you can jasper I would be happy to teach you something but it would not be this
I actually dislike this with a passion !!! It’s robotic , lacks personality and is merely an athletic dance . There is zero martial spirit involved at all . Artificial in nature like all WKF kata . It’s kata of the Instagram age . Commercial vaudeville.
@Real Aiglon the facial expressions and samurai act is hilarious 😂 . Seriously she’d shit herself if she ever had to fight someone for real . They are all plastic karateka . I competed in my youth in the mid 1980’s to early 1990’s and it was a very robust environment , where trips to the hospital emergency department were not unheard of . It was the golden age of shotokan kumite and kata competition. Now you do only kata or only kumite , well what they call kata and kumite . It isn’t , it’s a joke .! 🤷♂️🥋🇬🇧😁
空手をしている外人さんを見ると日本人にみえる、凜々しい！
Just when I thought Kyokushinkai had deformed (defiled would be a better term) a few Goju katas, now this. Horrible version of Suparimpei kata. Same goes for the Kanazawa version, horrible. If you want to learn kata from other styles, go practice that style as well (I have done exactly that) please don't come and defile a good traditional kata under false pretenses just because it is another big Japanese organization incorporated by a grand master and rename it in a similar fashion. Yeah, its creative, blah blah. Still a defilement.
Nakayama talked about this kata in Shotokan. Kyokushinkai is related to goju ryu lol. And even with Shotokan. Lol. And kata are similar. Shotokan is made up of several Tote schools. The division into styles has been condemned by many, starting with Funakoshi. What desecration are you talking about?
@@gray6032 Let’s keep things in context. Kyokushinkai borrowed from Shotokan and Goju Ryu because Oyama studied both, then modified some kata and Kyokushinkerized them as us old timers say. Me, being dan holder in all 3 of those styles( yes I am that old) can tell the difference, so the “desecration” I am referring to is Suparimpei, this Shotokan version looks more as if General Choi from Taekwondo adapted it instead of Shotokan. That’s what I am talking about, so, go, do some research on the technical aspects of Goju Ryu Suparimpei because you obviously don’t know it. That said, kata for me now (after more than 45 years in this racket) is only calisthenics. Good day.
@@jvliv435 That is, not a single version of the Suparinpei in Shotokan is satisfied? Do you have a level in several styles, and consider kata - gymnastics? Why?
@@gray6032 I said calisthenics, not gymnastics, read carefully before you type, don’t let your fingers do the job of your brain. There is consensus among expert trainers and fighters that kata is not practical for real combat and in my case, they make good warmup exercises and good for motor skill coordination and development, and for rainy days when I get bored indoors. No more, no less. As for the answer of your question if I have a level in several styles,read my previous post, the answer is there. Obviously you didn’t read it, just jumping into a discussion mindlessly. Have a good day.
@@jvliv435 I am no longer leading a discussion, I agree with a lot of what you write. I realized that you have a level in several schools) I wrote about this, perhaps the translator distorts the meaning. Yes, I saw what you said "calisthenics". I just simplified. And I asked not about the practicality of Kata. I asked - do you not like all the variants of Suparinpei in Shotokan?. Kata has been adapted before, maybe the same will happen in the future? Kanku dai is available in many styles, for example.
This is a JOKE, right...? 🥴🙄😬🤦♂️