@Thgt Ggyh I feel bad, but that's funny though. However I don't think he can't be a journalist because of that. I think he's more informative than many other journalists with smoother voices :p
This is a colossal improvement in presentation, and editing. Well done MCN. Please stay away from the old Top Gear style banter. That's for them, this is more you.
If little-old-me can manage it, then so can most. The 10mm adjustment either way allows the bike to appeal to a wider audience. Thanks for watching! Dan, MCN.
That was grand. As a life-long Guzzi fan, I would say it has been a very long time [1976~LM1.?] since the company produced anything remotely so attractive, and exciting. One could reasonably say.. Not before time, but still, even at my age I am off to see one soonest. Well done all at Guzzi. WF
Good review of a great bike. You should do reviews more often. And kudos to Guzzi for bringing a practical tourer. Wish they put this engine in the V7 line.
This Moto Guzzi look very compelling with a great sound, very good looks, and a focus on real world riding. Nice to see the seat height isn't totally in the clouds. I'll definitely have to visit my local dealer once they get one in stock.
Why does everybody say transverse V twin? The axis of an engine is the crankshaft. You wouldn't call a rear wheel drive V4, 6 or 8 car engine transverse would you?
One of the best reviews ever . I like Moto Guzzi but dealership is 180 miles away. They really need more here in the U.S. I don't like the new style Harleys but I can go 50 miles in any direction and find a dealership. That's a selling point of any product.
I'm 65 years old. I've been buying and riding motorcycles since 1970. You said that you need to be careful deciding to take long trips because of vibration??? Really??? Son, I've ridden BSA Victors, Triumph Bonnevilles, Norton, Ducati singles, and Yamaha XS 650s. You have no friggin' idea about vibration. I rode my XR 650 R dirt bike From Kentucky to Santiago, Chile, South America. 2+ months of riding 10+ hours per day. Every mile, with a sheep skin thrown over the 2X4 sized motocross seat. I own an '09 Stelvio. It vibrates. If you young guys are so soft that you limit your rides on this Guzzi due to vibration, you really need to grow a pair, or take up a different hobby. Jeez, it's embarrassing to hear this crap from young people. You kids are so soft.
I grew up on older bikes, I've always liked the clean simplistic look to them. I'm really digging the look of the v85. I'm a bit concerned on the limited power but figure I should give it a test ride first.
Good job on the review I just ordered one 2022 in the Centenario colors and being 5 7” 29 inch inseam; I’ll have a suspension lowering kit that brings it down an extra inch
I just came back from test riding one. I think that review is very good and very accurate. I tested it in the street mode. It was quite mellow for 850cc machine but very torquey. It felt very light and stable at low speeds but, it was little tall for my 5'10". I think it comes with lower seat option. Being so stable, I almost forgot to put foot down (I can tiptoe on both sides in the same time.) It never felt heavy when leaning and flat-footing on one side. It felt comfy sitting on it. Very natural stance. There was a LOT of vibration in all gears and at all speeds. I rode up to 75mph. In 6th gear at 75 it was running at 4500 rpm. That's very comparable to my Super Tenere 1200 but, that is where S10 starts to stretch legs while I wouldn't push this one passed 100mph. I think where this bike shines is doing lots of dirt riding. It felt really good standing on pegs. Mellow torquey engine and decent suspension would be excellent combo for little more than just dirt road. Probably not for expert adrenaline junkies but for low to mi-level skill level to enjoy different scenery. As for road only, there are many other bikes that are much better fit. Air cooling, easy access to engine heads, should be easy to maintain. Trans fairly smooth but, needs lil getting used to it like on any bike. Maybe too overpriced at around $12k but it is the only bike in this category with the shaft drive. For me personally, the shaft drive may be the most compelling feature.
touching the ground is a beginners folley. you don't need to touch the ground with both feet to ride a god damn motorcycle. what a stupid metric by which to judge a bike. gain confidence. lean the bike over and use one leg... thats proper. could you imagine if they made motocross bikes that you could touch the ground on? good lord...
@@oliverdurgen5953 Spoken like a true moto retard. Unlike dumbasses of your kind, people have real lives and responsibilities other than riding. Just couple weeks ago, I stopped along the road (on my 1400 miles trip through Ozarks) where guy and woman rested with their Harlies. It was rough, woman took off and dropped bike instantly. If you have nothing smart to say, don't talk out your ass either.
@@KostantinosKarampelas Whatever dude. That's what's written my medical record. I guess you know better how tall I am. 😄 Where do you imbeciles come from? So many on tube.
Hey very good review, but did you mention kerb weight and seat height? Or I missed it Also am 5.6 ft too.. I currently ride 310gs and Harley super low. I am growing into adv bikes. But the weight and height of these bikes is holding me back. I throw around my 310gs a lot having fun on it even after its shortcomings.. I want to jus know if it is easyly handleable by us !?! TIA
Test rode one this week, nice looking bike but loads of vibes through the pegs. Rear suspension very firm but it's nice to ride. Maybe a good used buy in a few years but I wouldn't trade my Strom 1000 for one.
I believe the fuel capacity is 21 litres, but if it is 23 litres, then all the better for it. How is the seat height adjustable +/- 10mm? I think the monotone version looks more refined, although Ronald McDonald would prefer the multi-hued example no doubt! Not fussed on the tube type tyres (after years of riding tubeless). Repair of punctures "in the field" won't be as easy or convenient. Thanks for the review.
It was originally stated that fuel capacity was 21-litres, however it is actually 23, incorporating a 5-litre reserve. Thanks very much for watching! Dan, MCN.
Great review. Super informative and interesting. Never really liked Guzzis but they've been producing some nice bikes lately (in my opinion) and this I have to see.
Moto Guzzi: about your nice V85TT: If front wheel fender was a lower one & if spoked wheels were tubeless rims as standard : i could be really interested in buying one as my next bike.
Lot of info packed into 8:20 duration. More reviews like this please! This seems like a great bike, but I'm not sure I'd want to be on a Guzzi in the middle of AK or Africa or something. I know that's not giving it a very fair shot, but it is what it is. So I don't think I'd buy this one per-se, but it definitely looks good, and sounds like it functions well.
Why? Do you travel to Africa regularly? Have you seen the Long way round... ? The BMWs broke down several times, with a back-up team etc... And that's just what we saw... Long , tough trips take their toll on any bike.
Great presenter, super informative! this bike reminds me a bit of my dorsoduro, the handlebar, grips, mirrors and hand guards are the same, and the rear suspension look an awful lot like the Aprilia Doroduro ones, it seems like it should ride like one too, maybe a bit lower seat height.
So which is it - Euro 4 or Euro 5? You're kinda mixing those two up here. First you say Euro 5, then you talk about the optional slip-on exhaust which is "again Euro 4 compliant".
Interesting, I would like the other way around. The adventure tires on the single colour bike. I took the bike for a test ride at the shop, I think it was nice. But I am 191 cm and thought it was too small for me. But could change the seat to a higher one, 850 mm. But they didn't have that to try. But I think I would buy it, but need to try the higher seat first. It looks really nice, and there's not many bikes I think looks good. And there's no chain, a cardan, love that! But then there are tubes in the tires. Seems can not find the perfect bike :) My other option is the Suzuki vstrom 1000.
Got to say, compared to some of the dross out there - this presenter really did give all the info we wanted and didnt waste any time waffling on about "flickable" and all that usual rubbish that moto journos seem intent on spewing out! Top work that man!
oil changes on my Audace are a pain. You have to drop the oil pan because the filter is INSIDE. do yourself a favor and grease the gasket with vaseline so you can reuse it maybe.
@don storm A BIG Thank You Don for taking the time and effort to reply. GREATLY APPRECIATED. One question Please. If it has a 'throttle body', it therefore has one carby, correct? I assume therefore they are not fuel injected? (do we know why they are not fuel injected??) I don't see many on the road in 'OZ'. (Australia) You would recommend them? Do they handle well? Any issues with them? Reliable? MANY thanks. Regards.
@don storm Thank you Don. All I can say is thank you, I do appreciate your reply. I was seriously thinking purchasing a triumph scrambler for $18,000 AUD, (Australia) but now will wait till the V85tt comes out in July/August for I believe about $21,000 (AUD) Thank you again, regards.
I have the same engine in my V9 Bobber but this puts out around 80 hp?!?!? Mine a bit over 50.....what gives? And it's Euro 5!!!! That's a massive difference.
All new internals in the v9 block. 80hp from an 850cc air cooled motor is pretty high strung though. I imagine its got a good oil cooler in there somewhere keeping it steady. They probably had to do it to make it compete at that price with bikes with alot more than that still. But at 50 this bike wouldve had alot of underpowered comments and if they put the 1300 in it, it wouldve been way too heavy. Makes good sense.
I would of been more concerned if he had said this bike has no vibrations at all, I ride an old Shovel that has vibration, but still would not want a new bike if it felt like I was riding a motionless sewing machine.
5:33 -- Moto Guzzi have also "gifted" this bike with a TFT dash -- wake up !!! it's now 2020 -- time to be more retro and go back to a pair of oldtime analogue clocks (and fuel guage and temp dial also). Especially for a bike with charisma like this Guzzi V85 - surely? This is a Guzzi adventure bike, not an iPhone or a Samsung :)
We'll see how it stands the test of time. And why does no one ever mention how long the warranty is? Most motorcycle warrantys suck, too short, it's like the manufacturers have no faith in their own product.
warranty is not set by the factory, each country has distributors that set their own warranty period... example, KTM Australia give 24mth unlimited km's on road bikes were as America only got 3 months until recently i think it maybe 12 months now(don't quote me).
Doesn't this bike come with crash bars as standard? That traverse twin could be a nightmare if this bike is dropped, since it is meant to be dropped cuz it's an adventure bike, this isn't a sport bike that isn't meant to dropped, advs are meant to be dropped..
Price difference of £200 between the V85 TT standard (£10,899) and adventure (£11,099, feature aluminum panniers, top case, off road tires and two tone color scheme) model? Who buys this standard model?
First model year of a newly designed italian motorcycle. If it didn't have some kinks it would be the first in history. And "vibes at speed" is pretty vague. My bike "vibes at speed" too, its called a motorcycle lol. You wanna talk about vibrations ride any Harley ever. It actually is just a characteristic of the tranverse v-twin just like a single has its certain vibration, and v twins in general actually because they are inherently unbalanced. Certain rpms youll feel it more.
David & Elizabeth Moto Guzzi nowadays is far more reliable than years ago, this “new deal” of modern Guzzis is keeping up with the others no problem, it’s not worse than Triumph, for instance. Vibes are normal for a V engine mounted like that. I had the chance to visit the factory in Mandello del Lario (I live nearby) and it’s really quite impressive, a great mix of “state of the art” machinery and expert craftsmanship. ❤️
I’ve got a 40 year old Guzzi and a 1-year old R1200GSA. The Guzzi has never had any mechanical issues, minimal maintenance costs, and to be honest anything that goes wrong I can fix myself because the engineering is so simple. I take my GSA to the dealer and pay whatever it takes 😃 Both brilliant bikes though!
What a bike, I want one! Presenter has his characteristics, but I found his story to be very clear and informative. Nice job!
@Thgt Ggyh I feel bad, but that's funny though. However I don't think he can't be a journalist because of that. I think he's more informative than many other journalists with smoother voices :p
He's got the build of a horse jockey. Possible previous career? Either way, very thorough review.
@Thgt Ggyh Tact isn't your thing is it?
@@Bredaxe
"He's got the build of a horse jockey"
Yeah, which is also like 99% of MotoGp riders...
Why didn't you add that?
@@nikos-giorgos Because it didn't matter, I was messing with him.
This is a colossal improvement in presentation, and editing. Well done MCN. Please stay away from the old Top Gear style banter. That's for them, this is more you.
This is by far the most informative review of this bike I have watched. Great job.
Thanks very much! I'm glad you liked it. Dan, MCN.
Great presentation.. i hope you hired this guy permanently !!
I can confirm you'll be seeing more of me in the future! Glad you enjoyed it. Dan, MCN.
Love this bike! Thanks for the review. Great to know that somebody of shorter stature can ride this bike
If little-old-me can manage it, then so can most. The 10mm adjustment either way allows the bike to appeal to a wider audience. Thanks for watching! Dan, MCN.
Great review Dan & looking forward to trying one 👍👍
Thanks very much, Mr. Chops! Enjoy your time with the bike! Dan, MCN.
That was grand. As a life-long Guzzi fan, I would say it has been a very long time [1976~LM1.?] since the company produced anything remotely so attractive, and exciting. One could reasonably say.. Not before time, but still, even at my age I am off to see one soonest.
Well done all at Guzzi.
WF
Good to see low pillion footrests, better than most other modern bikes where they are far too high.
Thank you for your polite honesty concerning this bike. I'll be watching more of your reviews. Ride well.
Good review of a great bike. You should do reviews more often. And kudos to Guzzi for bringing a practical tourer. Wish they put this engine in the V7 line.
Thanks very much! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Dan, MCN.
Watch this space !!!! already well under development
Really appreciate that you actually pronounced "Moto Guzzi" correctly.
Intelligent, info-packed and well articulated review. Give this guy more air time.
Thanks very much for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it. Dan, MCN.
This Moto Guzzi look very compelling with a great sound, very good looks, and a focus on real world riding. Nice to see the seat height isn't totally in the clouds. I'll definitely have to visit my local dealer once they get one in stock.
Dual head lights never get old. Now this looks way better than the 1200gs. Would definitely buy one, if it is sold in my country.
Ignore the haters, great review!
Why does everybody say transverse V twin? The axis of an engine is the crankshaft. You wouldn't call a rear wheel drive V4, 6 or 8 car engine transverse would you?
Good job Dan. That was a very informative and balanced review 👍👍
One of the best reviews ever . I like Moto Guzzi but dealership is 180 miles away. They really need more here in the U.S. I don't like the new style Harleys but I can go 50 miles in any direction and find a dealership. That's a selling point of any product.
Good review. thanks. i love the look of this bike, Definitely a contender for my $$
Thanks very much. I'm glad you liked it. Dan, MCN.
I'm 65 years old. I've been buying and riding motorcycles since 1970. You said that you need to be careful deciding to take long trips because of vibration??? Really??? Son, I've ridden BSA Victors, Triumph Bonnevilles, Norton, Ducati singles, and Yamaha XS 650s. You have no friggin' idea about vibration. I rode my XR 650 R dirt bike From Kentucky to Santiago, Chile, South America. 2+ months of riding 10+ hours per day. Every mile, with a sheep skin thrown over the 2X4 sized motocross seat.
I own an '09 Stelvio. It vibrates. If you young guys are so soft that you limit your rides on this Guzzi due to vibration, you really need to grow a pair, or take up a different hobby. Jeez, it's embarrassing to hear this crap from young people. You kids are so soft.
Very nice job Sparky. You hit on some new points that I had not heard in some other reviews. Keep up the good work!
Well presented, it's nice to see someone at MCN who isn't turned off a bike because it doesn't fit nicely into a category.
Lovely looking bike and a very informative review, thanks.
It's a looker, for sure! Thanks for your kind words. Dan, MCN.
I pick mine up tomorrow. Trading up from a Yamaha Tracer 700. I CANNOT WAIT!
I grew up on older bikes, I've always liked the clean simplistic look to them. I'm really digging the look of the v85. I'm a bit concerned on the limited power but figure I should give it a test ride first.
Take it for a test ride, Phil. They are in dealers very soon - if not already! Dan, MCN.
Very clear informative review. Great job :)
Thanks very much, Richard. Glad you enjoyed it! Dan, MCN.
Good job on the review I just ordered one 2022 in the Centenario colors and being 5 7” 29 inch inseam; I’ll have a suspension lowering kit that brings it down an extra inch
I just came back from test riding one. I think that review is very good and very accurate. I tested it in the street mode. It was quite mellow for 850cc machine but very torquey. It felt very light and stable at low speeds but, it was little tall for my 5'10". I think it comes with lower seat option. Being so stable, I almost forgot to put foot down (I can tiptoe on both sides in the same time.) It never felt heavy when leaning and flat-footing on one side. It felt comfy sitting on it. Very natural stance. There was a LOT of vibration in all gears and at all speeds. I rode up to 75mph. In 6th gear at 75 it was running at 4500 rpm. That's very comparable to my Super Tenere 1200 but, that is where S10 starts to stretch legs while I wouldn't push this one passed 100mph. I think where this bike shines is doing lots of dirt riding. It felt really good standing on pegs. Mellow torquey engine and decent suspension would be excellent combo for little more than just dirt road. Probably not for expert adrenaline junkies but for low to mi-level skill level to enjoy different scenery. As for road only, there are many other bikes that are much better fit. Air cooling, easy access to engine heads, should be easy to maintain. Trans fairly smooth but, needs lil getting used to it like on any bike. Maybe too overpriced at around $12k but it is the only bike in this category with the shaft drive. For me personally, the shaft drive may be the most compelling feature.
touching the ground is a beginners folley. you don't need to touch the ground with both feet to ride a god damn motorcycle. what a stupid metric by which to judge a bike.
gain confidence. lean the bike over and use one leg... thats proper. could you imagine if they made motocross bikes that you could touch the ground on? good lord...
@@oliverdurgen5953 Spoken like a true moto retard. Unlike dumbasses of your kind, people have real lives and responsibilities other than riding. Just couple weeks ago, I stopped along the road (on my 1400 miles trip through Ozarks) where guy and woman rested with their Harlies. It was rough, woman took off and dropped bike instantly. If you have nothing smart to say, don't talk out your ass either.
if you can't stand with both legs, then you are not 5' 10'' !!!! Don't be a liar!! 😂 😂
@@KostantinosKarampelas Whatever dude. That's what's written my medical record. I guess you know better how tall I am. 😄
Where do you imbeciles come from? So many on tube.
Clear, to the point and informative review. Very good, sir. Thank you.
Legendary. Motorcycle... A C/creator... From the Roman Empire... Blessed! In F/faith... Tractors. As well. I love Guzzi
Hey very good review, but did you mention kerb weight and seat height? Or I missed it Also am 5.6 ft too.. I currently ride 310gs and Harley super low. I am growing into adv bikes. But the weight and height of these bikes is holding me back. I throw around my 310gs a lot having fun on it even after its shortcomings.. I want to jus know if it is easyly handleable by us !?! TIA
Coolest bike this year so far!
Good real world style review 👍🏻
Thanks very much Lee! Ride safe. Dan, MCN.
Definitely plan on going one a go.Superb review, thank you.👍👍
Very good intro to this new Guzzi, top job by the presenter 10/10.
Test rode one this week, nice looking bike but loads of vibes through the pegs. Rear suspension very firm but it's nice to ride. Maybe a good used buy in a few years but I wouldn't trade my Strom 1000 for one.
A bike that never ages
What other retro touring/adventure bike are there besides this one? Great review btw.
I need that motor to put in a V7
I thought the presenter gave a thorough presentation.
Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed! Dan, MCN.
I believe the fuel capacity is 21 litres, but if it is 23 litres, then all the better for it.
How is the seat height adjustable +/- 10mm?
I think the monotone version looks more refined, although Ronald McDonald would prefer the multi-hued example no doubt!
Not fussed on the tube type tyres (after years of riding tubeless). Repair of punctures "in the field" won't be as easy or convenient.
Thanks for the review.
It was originally stated that fuel capacity was 21-litres, however it is actually 23, incorporating a 5-litre reserve. Thanks very much for watching! Dan, MCN.
You can't adjust the seat. You need to buy a new seat.
You can adjust the seat lower by removing the rubber bungs under the seat and almost 3/4 of an inch of lowering
Great review and a nice easy style that's missing from a lot of reviews these days
Great review. Super informative and interesting. Never really liked Guzzis but they've been producing some nice bikes lately (in my opinion) and this I have to see.
you can go down 20mm, not 10, if u are talking about the seat. Am i right?
great bike and review. thanks!
Looks like a GS and a V9 made love and this came out.
Brilliant presenter. Lovely bike.
Guzzis seem like a hybrid of Ducati and bmw. Very interesting machine. Not enough dealers for me to take the leap. But I do admire them alot...
Yes, with a born-old 50 years old engine. And pray for the electrical plant, is not their strong point.
Moto Guzzi: about your nice V85TT: If front wheel fender was a lower one & if spoked wheels were tubeless rims as standard : i could be really interested in buying one as my next bike.
Lot of info packed into 8:20 duration. More reviews like this please!
This seems like a great bike, but I'm not sure I'd want to be on a Guzzi in the middle of AK or Africa or something. I know that's not giving it a very fair shot, but it is what it is. So I don't think I'd buy this one per-se, but it definitely looks good, and sounds like it functions well.
Why? Do you travel to Africa regularly? Have you seen the Long way round... ? The BMWs broke down several times, with a back-up team etc... And that's just what we saw... Long , tough trips take their toll on any bike.
Moto guzzi hit a homerun imo!
Whatta beauty !!!
Great presenter, super informative! this bike reminds me a bit of my dorsoduro, the handlebar, grips, mirrors and hand guards are the same, and the rear suspension look an awful lot like the Aprilia Doroduro ones, it seems like it should ride like one too, maybe a bit lower seat height.
Thanks very much, Alex! Remember, the seat can be lowered by 10mm, but it really is very manageable. Dan, MCN.
Great comprehensive review. Thanks for sharing
So which is it - Euro 4 or Euro 5? You're kinda mixing those two up here.
First you say Euro 5, then you talk about the optional slip-on exhaust which is "again Euro 4 compliant".
I'm liking this bike more each time I see it, I should stop clicking these videos.
Solid review! But is he old enough to hold a license? 😁
Any idea when it'll be in dealers?
I was at Colchester Kawasaki last night and they had some already! Expect them before the end of the month. Dan, MCN.
Good no bullshit review
Interesting, I would like the other way around. The adventure tires on the single colour bike. I took the bike for a test ride at the shop, I think it was nice. But I am 191 cm and thought it was too small for me. But could change the seat to a higher one, 850 mm. But they didn't have that to try. But I think I would buy it, but need to try the higher seat first.
It looks really nice, and there's not many bikes I think looks good. And there's no chain, a cardan, love that! But then there are tubes in the tires. Seems can not find the perfect bike :) My other option is the Suzuki vstrom 1000.
Great review
Many thanks! Dan, MCN.
Got to say, compared to some of the dross out there - this presenter really did give all the info we wanted and didnt waste any time waffling on about "flickable" and all that usual rubbish that moto journos seem intent on spewing out! Top work that man!
It's almost half the price of a BMW GS, 50kg lighter and it rides just as good if not better...
Does it have any torque reaction when pulling a 10 pumper you neglected that in your reveiw
That's a pretty bad ass bike
Informative, fair review. Thanks.
How does it sound? No sound clip of it?
Nice bike, good video, well done by the host.
Thanks very much for this, glad to know you enjoyed it. Dan, MCN.
Really nice review
EXCELLENT review. Just EXCELLENT.
Thinking about getting one. Never had a Guzzi before. They look very easy to work on. (is this correct??)
Thank you.
oil changes on my Audace are a pain. You have to drop the oil pan because the filter is INSIDE. do yourself a favor and grease the gasket with vaseline so you can reuse it maybe.
@don storm
A BIG Thank You Don for taking the time and effort to reply. GREATLY APPRECIATED.
One question Please. If it has a 'throttle body', it therefore has one carby, correct?
I assume therefore they are not fuel injected? (do we know why they are not fuel injected??)
I don't see many on the road in 'OZ'. (Australia) You would recommend them? Do they handle well? Any issues with them? Reliable?
MANY thanks.
Regards.
@don storm
Thank you Don.
All I can say is thank you, I do appreciate your reply.
I was seriously thinking purchasing a triumph scrambler for $18,000 AUD, (Australia) but now will wait till the V85tt comes out in July/August for I believe about $21,000 (AUD)
Thank you again, regards.
They are fuel injected. A throttle body is part of the EFI system.
The oil change is super easy on these, as is the valve maintenance.
@@falcn12
Thank You, APPRECIATED.
Nice review..👍👍👍
Reliability? Let us know ...
They appear to be dependable? Are they?
Guzzi's are very reliable, especially now adays.
I have the same engine in my V9 Bobber but this puts out around 80 hp?!?!? Mine a bit over 50.....what gives? And it's Euro 5!!!! That's a massive difference.
I would seek some answers ,or a great trade in price!
All new internals in the v9 block. 80hp from an 850cc air cooled motor is pretty high strung though. I imagine its got a good oil cooler in there somewhere keeping it steady. They probably had to do it to make it compete at that price with bikes with alot more than that still. But at 50 this bike wouldve had alot of underpowered comments and if they put the 1300 in it, it wouldve been way too heavy. Makes good sense.
I would of been more concerned if he had said this bike has no vibrations at all, I ride an old Shovel that has vibration, but still would not want a new bike if it felt like I was riding a motionless sewing machine.
5:33 -- Moto Guzzi have also "gifted" this bike with a TFT dash -- wake up !!! it's now 2020 -- time to be more retro and go back to a pair of oldtime analogue clocks (and fuel guage and temp dial also). Especially for a bike with charisma like this Guzzi V85 - surely? This is a Guzzi adventure bike, not an iPhone or a Samsung :)
Tubed tires??
Beautiful bike, definitely a marmite bike but for me its a winner
Big want!
I can not get over why a lot of you bang on about the tyres " just change the things when you buy it like I do if you prefer a different tyre.
We'll see how it stands the test of time. And why does no one ever mention how long the warranty is? Most motorcycle warrantys suck, too short, it's like the manufacturers have no faith in their own product.
warranty is not set by the factory, each country has distributors that set their own warranty period... example, KTM Australia give 24mth unlimited km's on road bikes were as America only got 3 months until recently i think it maybe 12 months now(don't quote me).
Thanks for an informative review. Like the bike but too expensive by about £2,000.
Thanks for the positive feedback! Dan, MCN.
So you say this exquisite guzzi should be sold at the same price at a honda cb650r? are you kidding?
The dealers are now knocking £1,900 off this model. A bargain, may now buy one.
mix of tiger and himalayan
Wish someone would give it a serious go off road
It won't take long for someone to do it, I'm sure! Dan, MCN.
Cheaper .. ?
Presentation lacks important info: no mention of the shaft drive, which is a unique feature at this price point for this type of bikes...
Motto Guzzi, like BMW, have long been known for shaft drive. Anyone too new to motorcycling to know that shouldn't be thinking big bike yet.
Doesn't this bike come with crash bars as standard? That traverse twin could be a nightmare if this bike is dropped, since it is meant to be dropped cuz it's an adventure bike, this isn't a sport bike that isn't meant to dropped, advs are meant to be dropped..
The GS has a boxer engine and does not come with crash bars neither!
So its meant to be dropped then ? : )
Price difference of £200 between the V85 TT standard (£10,899) and adventure (£11,099, feature aluminum panniers, top case, off road tires and two tone color scheme) model? Who buys this standard model?
200 difference is just for the paint. No panniers or Top case included.
Cruise control?
Yes
Vibes at speed and dodgy shifts? On a brand new modern tourer? Sounds seriously problematic no?
First model year of a newly designed italian motorcycle. If it didn't have some kinks it would be the first in history. And "vibes at speed" is pretty vague. My bike "vibes at speed" too, its called a motorcycle lol. You wanna talk about vibrations ride any Harley ever. It actually is just a characteristic of the tranverse v-twin just like a single has its certain vibration, and v twins in general actually because they are inherently unbalanced. Certain rpms youll feel it more.
Taller screens and much much more !!!
It's a masterpiece half price of the Ducati multistada...
Cruise control, heated grips as standard? Im guessing no
Cruise is standard!
Cruise comes as standard and is very easy to operate. Dan, MCN.
Great news😎
Please Guzzi is pronounced Gutt-si, drives me potty. Nice bike.
Only if you're Italian, otherwise it sounds pretentious. How do you pronounce Paris, David?
@@barryolaith correct pronunciation is pretentious 😂 . You say the same to people in Wales, Ireland and Scotland when pronouncing names?
Pop & Crackle 😁
I guess you could call the Royal Enfield Himalayan a retro adventure bike, but definitely not a real competitor to this lol.
Reminds me of bigbird.
Maintenance costs and long term reliability, though...😥
David & Elizabeth Moto Guzzi nowadays is far more reliable than years ago, this “new deal” of modern Guzzis is keeping up with the others no problem, it’s not worse than Triumph, for instance. Vibes are normal for a V engine mounted like that. I had the chance to visit the factory in Mandello del Lario (I live nearby) and it’s really quite impressive, a great mix of “state of the art” machinery and expert craftsmanship. ❤️
Those are two key advantages of Guzzi these days, in my opinion...
I’ve got a 40 year old Guzzi and a 1-year old R1200GSA. The Guzzi has never had any mechanical issues, minimal maintenance costs, and to be honest anything that goes wrong I can fix myself because the engineering is so simple. I take my GSA to the dealer and pay whatever it takes 😃 Both brilliant bikes though!
Why would maintenance cost be an issue? Shaft drive, pushrod OHV with cylinders heads easily accessible.
Moto g.verygood
Good review, better if it wasn't delivered on helium 👍