Thanks to Tim for being so open in this conversation and thanks to you for watching. Love all the comments people are leaving. Per the intro you can find more about Tim plus links to mental health resources and references to topics discussed in the show notes on the episode page here: bit.ly/richroll770
I'm trying to write this to be as gentle as possible, but something I've noticed with Tim Ferris is his extreme self-absorption. It's all about optimization of himself, being obsessed with personal performance, being obsessed with me, me, ME. No where in any of his discussions with other people on his podcast, or interviews does he show any interest, care of concern over anything other than how this person, conversation, can be of utility to him.
Thanks to you both. Followed you both since the early days and queue up your latest conversations for the long solitary trail runs...I appreciate you for staying in front of the paywall. Because of that I buy every book and support you in any way along the journey.
Tim has always been ahead of the curve. I’ve learned so much from his content over the years and this discussion was spectacular. It’s clear he’s done and he’s doing the work to constantly evolve himself and thank you Rich for being such a thoughtful interviewer. I always learn from you as well! beyond blessed to have access to this information into be able to call you both friends as well. Keep going!
Thank you Andrew. Your support means the world and the work you are doing continues to be a North Star - not just for its content but perhaps more so for its spirit of service to others. We learn together and share together.
As far as I am concerned, you guys are the big three heavy hitters in the land of serving. Thank you for being there for yourself enough to reach those who are open to usable and actionable science-based information that propels and oils the wheels of being well and well-being as a human trying to just be. 🙏 . 😇😇😇
Professor Huberman, thank you for being such a fantastic role model. A friend and I were discussing this today literally; we really look up to you. Thank you.
0:08: 🧠 The speaker discusses their journey of self-discovery and healing, including a childhood trauma and its impact on their life. 11:14: 💡 The speaker reflects on the impact of their hyper-analytical thinking toolkit and how it has shaped their journey, while also discussing the importance of vulnerability and sharing personal struggles. 20:36: 💡 The speaker reflects on the importance of addressing trauma and cultivating self-love, suggesting that engaging with these issues is more likely when one realizes the limitations of external achievements and recognizes the need for inner growth. 30:32: 💡 Having hope is important in overcoming shame and taking meaningful action in addressing personal issues. 39:41: 🔑 The speaker discusses the importance of maintaining hope and finding ways to work with their inner critic, despite feeling broken and hopeless for many years. They emphasize the need for purpose and the ability to change one's interior experience. Journaling and asking oneself what they are unwilling to feel are helpful tools. 57:57: 💡 The speaker discusses their interest in psychedelics and their potential benefits for hyper rigidity, as well as their personal experiences and observations. 1:00:01: 🧠 The speaker shares their personal journey with psychedelic experiences, including the positive effects and a dangerous encounter, leading them to research and invest in the field. 1:10:17: 🌱 The speaker discusses the need for responsible regulation and oversight of psychedelic compounds and cannabis due to their potential risks and adverse effects. 1:20:17: ⚠ The speaker discusses the challenges of implementing therapy with psychedelic compounds at scale and the importance of therapist training and personal experience. 1:29:50: 💡 The speaker discusses the importance of qualified supervision and rehabilitation after using certain compounds, the exciting research in imaging and new molecules, and the potential benefits of group therapy and integration. 1:39:51: 🎙 The speaker discusses the negative impact of social media algorithms and the importance of prioritizing personal well-being over financial gain in podcasting. 1:52:38: 🎮 The speaker discusses the process of selecting guests for the podcast and the intentionality behind it, as well as the importance of having a clear purpose and value proposition in influencing others. 1:57:56: 🎙 The speaker discusses the importance of having novel conversations that bring something valuable to the audience, the significance of scientific literacy, and the need to optimize mental health and social time. 2:06:57: 📚 The speaker enjoys looking back at their past and finds it to be a form of diary. Recap by Tammy AI
In terms of harm reduction I offer this as a woman in her mid 60s who grew up in the San Francisco Bay area and married a Berkeley guy who ended up being just a rager and on all fronts. A party boy at heart but also a serial wife-beater, baby shaker; phony who loved all manners of drugs as well as psychedelics, and thought of himself as a shaman. He had quite the messiah complex and ended up after several arrests and breakups and getting a teenager pregnant at 50 years old, all moved in on CIIS (above board and underground) to get buy of all things a Marriage and Family Counseling license. When he died his handle was "educator" as if. He became the headmaster's favorite trippin buddy who he paid my child support to, to make it look like he was legitimately working on himself when he was actively and geavily using and dragging everybody that didn't give him what he wanted to court when he wasn't drugging them willy-nilly, using adult child support from his enabling mother. He had the audacity to tell me that his favorite part of the job was going to small retreats with vulnerable female "clients" and dosing them with MDMA then sexually assaulting them... I mean healing them wink-wink-nudge-nudge. These rappey dudes are everywhere in psychedelics and always have been like yoga and meditation... hollywood/n.y., your daughters' college, and you might want to talk to Rick Doblin (but better Dave Nickols) all about how these kinds of guys even the ones that speak at conferences and where they predate as well, Burning Man, Peru; IN THERAPY,, about their cover-ups. Classic charlatans use these substances as date-rape drugs. Beware.
This is exactly what I've been needing to hear. I think I've followed too many personalities on hustle culture and noticed that most of them are in their 20s or early 30s. It's honestly caused fatigue. I love that we have more influential voices showing us the journey from thriving outward but also cultivating inner awareness. Thank you for this!
I did psilocybin (5g+) in my early 20s and it essentially cured most of my mental issues stemming from childhood trauma. Toughest experience in my life, while also the most beautiful. I call it a chemical enlightenment, because that's exactly what it felt like. I know this topic is getting beat to death, but it's not unwarranted.
Loved this conversation so much! Thank you to Tim for being vulnerable and showcasing a comprehensive perspective... I deeply value his ability to share multiple sides of the same topic and attempts to be considerate to make sure people know it's not a one size fits all. Being able to change our minds as we learn more and our values change in life is also an incredible skill, especially when having a public presence. Rich is an incredible host as always! Grateful for you both, and the studio is sharp!
few years ago I was literally saved by Tim recommending Radical Acceptance. That started my long journey to the recovery from a very deep depression. Still feeling this gratitude for that old podcast where Tim shared his story and mentioned this book. Much love to both of you ❤
God bless Tim Ferris and give him all the peace and grace that only a higher power can give. We love and RESPECT you, Tim. You have changed millions of lives in ways that you can never imagine. You are a blessing to humanity.
Appreciate so much that someone like Tim is finally appealed how important FEELING is. It’s one of the sources for not only becoming whole as a person but also a way to becoming more empathetic and compassionate to others.
Tim Ferriss and 1Mil Subs in the same week? Hell yes! Love to see you finally surpassed 1Mil Rich. Something about that number and all the work you've done made my day. Huge congrats!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:08 🎯 Tim Ferriss discusses productivity, mental health, and new modalities. 01:07 💡 Tim opens up about lifelong struggles with major depressive episodes. 03:37 💔 Tim shares a challenging experience during a silent meditation retreat. 11:12 🧩 Tim realizes the connection between various problems and underlying trauma. 14:53 ❤️ Tim emphasizes vulnerability's power in connecting with others. 18:08 🔗 Tim values real-time conversations in podcasts for empathy. 21:35 ☎️ Tim provides resources and support for mental health and trauma. 23:51 💪 Tim commits to self-love during a book launch period. 24:46 🎯 Tim discusses workaholism and perfectionism as avoidant tendencies. 26:10 🤔 Tim reflects on early engagement in practices like meditation. 27:47 🌱 Recognizing blind spots is essential for inner growth. 29:00 💡 Seeking professional help is crucial for mental health challenges. 31:31 🚦 Tim cautions against ego-driven vulnerability. 34:20 🧠 Tim debunks the misconception of being "broken." 37:40 🏃♂️ Exercise is vital for Tim's mental well-being. 38:10 💔 Emphasizing hope over hopelessness when dealing with trauma. 45:13 🧘♂️ Meditation increases self-awareness and manages inner dialogue. 46:05 😔 Tim acknowledges tough days in mental health work. 47:39 🔑 Tara Brach's quote sparks inner growth and acceptance. 48:32 🌱 Tim's interest in mental health, psychology, and psychedelics. 49:27 📚 Impactful books and the "Waking Up" meditation app. 50:49 😴 Sleep's importance for productivity and well-being. 52:11 🚀 Psychedelic-assisted therapy's transformative potential. 54:02 🚧 Caution and responsibility in psychedelic use. 58:34 🔍 Funding psychedelic research and preserving knowledge. 01:09:19 🚨 Tim's concerns about mainstreaming psychedelics. 01:12:44 🔬 Tim discusses psychedelic compounds and reshaping beliefs. 01:13:25 ⚠️ Acknowledging adverse events and responsible use. 01:16:05 🏢 Regulatory oversight and therapist training. 01:19:04 🎓 Developing curricula for psychedelic therapy. 01:22:28 🧪 Understanding different psychedelics and group therapy. 01:26:09 🌐 Progress and challenges in psychedelic research. 01:33:23 💡 Tim's approach to content creation and influence. 01:36:01 🎙️ Reflecting on Tim's podcast journey and caution with new platforms. 01:37:24 🎙️ Tim's identity as a writer and intentionality with labels. 01:39:19 📈 Many creators prioritize growth over meaningful content. 01:40:25 📱 Cautiously approaching social apps and mental health impact. 01:41:34 🎯 Identifying the "what" and "why" of influence. 01:45:03 🎙️ Podcasting with curiosity and meaningful content. 01:56:13 🎙️ Creating Evergreen content and stepping away from constant promotion. 01:57:10 🎙️ Tim Ferriss prefers guests who offer unique insights rather than those heavily promoting their work on multiple podcasts. 01:59:24 🧠 Scientific literacy is crucial in the age of AI-generated disinformation. 02:01:57 📚 Tim appreciates poetry and values social time and mental health. 02:04:29 🚶 Tim shifts his perspective to embrace diverse perspectives. Made with HARPA AI
50:15 -> that is the point! No mind is empty. Look at your thoughts, look at the attached ideas and emotions. Detach your ideas and emotions. Let the pictures come and go. That's the flow!
This is an important episode. I bought all of Tim's books and often felt like I wasn't good enough because I could never apply them and execute like Tim. Now I know that Tim was never an idol or someone to put on a pedestal, only human.
I knew he had issues with depression, but I didn't realize his depression was that severe. I totally relate to his episodic depression and hope the best for him.
So powerful. I love how thoughtfully and humbly Tim is making waves in the psychedelic therapy space. A dear friend of mine took his own life after a bout of self-medicating with ketamine. He was trying to replace alcohol with ketamine and had no real support system in place to do so. You have both done a huge service by talking about the good, the bad and the ugly. Thank you 🙏
What Tim is talking about re: his life’s challenges are common, one doesn’t have to have sexual abuse when they were 2-4. Although that’s horrible, we’re all affected by growing up from parents, trauma (like for me my father passing at 16), siblings, school, natural tendencies, etc. Rich Roll recently interviewed Dr Richard Schwartz of IFS-to me, that’s the answer in and out of a therapist’s office.
I used to find Tim Ferris arrogant, but this conversation helped me to see him in a new light, a more humble and human one that has really been enjoyable. Thank you.
I so appreciate you, Rich! You are such an incredible man. Both of you are! It is so beautiful to watch you both grow right in front of our eyes. Thank you so very much for sharing your amazing journeys. Thank you for being what Timothy Leary called the 'Outlaws'---those renegade cells that push the envelope, blaze the trail for others to follow more easily. I began this journey when I was 17 year old unwed mother and was granted a work scholarship at Esalen Institute in 1969 and it changed my entire life, including working with Timothy Leary for an entire summer producing his first Computer/Brain/Consciousness workshop in Santa Monica decades later......Life is such an amazing journey!
YES! Sounds like he's embracing and cultivating his feminine essence as to balance out the masculine behaviour of the last years. By the way nothing wrong with it, but too much of one thing makes us unbalanced within ourselves. And Rich congratulations on the not important & so well deserved million. Thank you for this! Tim & Rich 😍🥰
No great interviewee without great interviewer. Gratitude to Rich Roll for creating such wide deep space for Tim to express his truths. I dream of a conversation between Tim Ferris and Bob Boman, Michael Phelps' legendary coach on living unoptimized
This is such a powerful , authentic and inspiring conversation! We have all learned so much from Tim over the years and really appreciate his contribution to mankind. Thank you both for this video . ❤
It’s like I am watching Tim grow up who helped me grow up when I discovered him 9 years ago. And now THIS KINDA VULNERABLE talk is showing me direction since here’s exactly where I am stuck.
My guys! Been listening to Tim for a LONG time and picked up on Rich about three years ago. Super GRATEFUL for each. “Inception level intention”… Give me another hour or two of conversation after your hike together. And stoked for Rich hitting 1 mil. Well done!
My brother was sexually abused repeatedly from the age of 8 by our grandfather who we moved in with after my parents divorced. These memories didn’t resurface until he was going through cancer treatment at the age of 38 and he was reading Bessel van der Kolk’s book The Body Keeps the Score. He passed away last year at the age of 44 and I know that his sickness was trapped emotions from childhood trauma that manifested years later as a chronic disease and took his life. I honestly don’t know what the obsession is now with people getting into psychedelics. It almost seems like it is the next “fad”. I listened to a Suzanne Geisman podcast recently and I 100% agree with a comment she made that some windows are just meant to be left closed (something like that). It’s important to deal with trapped emotions, but we don’t necessarily have to remember what happened. If you have to take psychedelics to access that information I just think you’re going to “play with fire”. Also, the hyper obsessive driven person that Tim has been up until this point is clearly a result of his need to shut things out, pushing things down. He has been running from his emotions and he made a lot of money selling the “hustle” to people, just as he is now making a lot of money telling everybody that’s it’s now “en vogue” to feel. Credit where credit is due for having these conversations, but why did it need to wait until it became popular to do so 🤷🏻♀️
‘I am broke and nothing will fix it.’ This kind of hopelessness has plagued me my whole life. I think hopelessness is the core of depression. So powerful. Thanks Tim.
Respected Tim, I have just read ur book, 4 hours work week. Competency is a modern term. In the past, it was sincere service. Corporate world has turned it into competence. My prophet Muhammad has always championed service; that’s why he is still in the hearts after 14.5 centuries.
Thanks @timferriss for sharing your journey. So helpful! We all have things locked away in compartments. You are shaping and influencing how our generation handles trauma. Thanks Tim!
Extended experiential lifespan.. discovering time is not linear. Living a richer, more present life where at times it as if it is my first day on eartth. Treasures are hiding or rather ignored in the 'mundane' My cup overflows💕
Great Podcast, thank you, Rich Roll. Tim Ferris you are an amazing human. Thank you thank you, by God's grace ,I never experienced childhood sexual abuse, but I know so many who did. Your voice, and thoughts will help so many❤
I remember exactly where I was when I heard the Terry Cruz episode. I waa working overnight in a grocery store and I remember having to go to the restroom for a few minutes because of how emotional it was. Didn't want to be tearing up during work. That was very early in my "podcast journey" and it wss very impactful. Fortunately I have not faced any similar traumatic events but it really made me see things in a different light since.
Thank you both for this great interview. Tim is one great example of « using your power for good ». He helped so many people who have then helped and inspired others. To me he’s Also an example of integrity. He followed his own values and his logic to the point where it had to completely transform him. « Follow the argument wherever it leads » ; it lead him to cross over to a different life / a different way to live. That’s the greatest example of courage. Maybe he’ll inspire others to learn to do the same: to think clearly AND feel deeply. ❤ to you both for having this conversation in public.
I'm listening to the part about scaling up and regulations... thinking about the difference between intelligence and wisdom and wondering if facilitating the widespread commercialisation and use of these compounds as a commodity is a wise move. To "extract the molecule" and sell it. Shouldn't the experience be embedded in a culture, with a strong, deep foundation, and values that go along with it? To help the person connect with this culture / world view and those values? I wonder if the wisdom people acquire through using the psychedelics is compatible with the commercial / capitalist mindset of America... I haven't used them, I know people who do, I'm curious, but I can't help wonder about their widespread use within North American culture. @richroll @timferris
12 step approach: little known hustory iof Blls getting sober and embarking on his journey of sobriety: in hisputal, his therapy was conducted using psychedelic therapy. That opened his perspective. In startung AA, he wanted to address this but others felt it would not be in alignment with the 12 step principles so he agreed to leave that part out.
Appreciate the emphasis on clinical support and supervision for these treatments. I do hope that this might provide an option for a hard to reach group of people who desperately need support: First Responders and military. The culture of grit and push through helps in their work but is detrimental to their real lives.
Thank u Rich and the team for bringing the important, relevant conversations needed to help change lives. In so many ways, you have changed mine since the inception of my journey to recovery and wholeness. 🙏🏼
I had repeated thoughts of a specific abuse from childhood until I experienced a religious dream reframing the abuse as Mother Mary protecting me from the abuser. I cried. I healed. I only recognized her as a woman in a blue veil until a few days later. Then I realized I hd dreamed in color of Leonardo Davinci's sculpture (and paintings of) La Pieta only I was being held. I have not had that dream since and have been healed from the trauma. No drugs, no fasting, no meditation.
I can’t express how devastating to mental and physical health child sexual abuse is for a large number of people.It’s so devastating because the older you get the more you understand how cruel it is and the more you wish you could do something.I pray I never have to leave any kids i have with anyone (beside my sister or a trusted friend who looks after them alone with no other kids,relatives in the home).I’m willing to accept being poorer to save them from that.I’d rather come across over zealous than to be complacent or too trusting and have a lapse in judgement.
Sounds like a growth in maturity. Humans aren't robots to be "optimised". Living "optimised" all the time is going to burn anyone out long term. Optimising in order to achieve certain short or medium term objectives is fine if done properly, but long term there needs to be a balance of some sort or you're going to crash hard at some point.
As usual, Tim, you are constantly over delivering on the promise. My kids suffer as did my ex, I always share these episodes with them. I remember a mention of a book on this topic… no pressure. The podcasts and long form articles are the best🤗
Me too. I am not broken and I will never be finished learning and expanding my edges and my limits every day. Also I don’t want to do psychedelics. Meditation is the speed I can just about handle.
Thank you for going everywhere you all did, and especially about the over saturation of communities in psychedelics and podcasting. It certainly obvious and old to see them same authors on all the same podcasts doing their circuits.
you rock Rich! thanks for opening the space for Tim! this is some deep space I haven't seen Tim reach in any other podcast, and I've only watched 5 minutes of it as I'm typing it! hahahaha I love Tim, consume everything he does for 10 years already. keep rocking guys! 👊🏼🙏🏼💜
I agree that regulation is an important element of safe establishment and distributions of plant medicine. However, gratitude and reverence needs to be given to the many who have propagated these healing modalities in the liminal spaces. Would this moment even be here without unregulated practice? It's just like they say in ceremony - integration. How do we integrate the chaos and wisdom of the past with the engineering and evolving of the future? I believe it can be done! Wonderful interview!
Ketamine has improved everything about me. It rewired my brain, starting with the first dose. I no longer get hooked into repetitive thinking. I sleep better. Low dose and under medical supervision
Childhood sexual trauma being the cause of mental health issues is terrible. It’s more of us than we think. 😮 I was also diagnosed as bipolar few years back and medicine and therapy hasn’t helped too much but pushing through. 🙌🏾
Enjoyed this interview very much. The long painful tail of trauma and the role of plant medicines in treating now provides amazing opportunity for healing and growth. Appreciated the caveats as well. I believe that the rigidity and chaos metaphor comes from Dr. Dan Siegal. Appreciate the warmth of your keen listening and insightful responses.
After shining our attention on the past x number of times, it always comes down to where do we go from here? Choosing life over death means to fully embrace our experience and healing with complete openness and acceptance. Cultivating openness, physical relaxation, awareness, acceptance and compassion for self and others are essential. The ways to get there: Physical exercise, sleep, breath work, mantra (chanting, affirmation), meditation, reflection, journaling, and the middle way. How many ways can we say this?
This was interesting and fascinating and informative and seeds that I don’t have words for yet. Thank you for sharing! ❤ May we all get to a good, purposeful feeling!
Rich. Congratulations on the 1Million. You deserve everything. Thank you for everything. I hope your podcast reaches millions and millions more. I’m truly inspired by the way you articulate things, how smart you are, how great your interviewing skills are, and just the man you are. Love you Rich. Thank you thank you for existing. You deserve all the love. @richroll
40 plus AYA ceremonies here and it’s always challenging. Never met anyone that regretted it. If you are taking anti depressants then don’t go. The best “shamans or facilitators” are the ones that keep you safe and stay out of the conversation you are having with the plants
Re: Shamans, Rich asked, “Is there a space for a responsible regulatory oversight?” I highly recommend The Association for Spiritual Integrity. Membership is free and they do vet these people who claim to be spiritual teachers.
Get rid of facebook, instagram, and whatever else you post on. Then you will realise how much you do in your life just for a post, or for validation, or to portray someone you think people will like or want to be. It's liberating when you realise you can stop trying to prove yourself to everyone else through a platform that feeds on our feeling of worthlessness and competitiveness.
Principles over personalities. Instead of dwindling over the centuries number of principalities only. In which the chaos and death reining called war often breaks out.
I love that Tim is aging gracefully, becoming Jason Stratham like a bad ass looking dude but he sounds and his style is exactly the same from 10+ years ago! 😂 かっこいいっす👍 沢山の人に役立つ事を共有してくれてありがとうございます🙏
Two of the most influential voices in my life from books and podcasts since 2011 for me, great podcast thanks guys 🙏 If you have me on Rich, I’ll make sure your podcast comes out first 😉
Thumbnail said "peace over productivity" which is alluding to Ferriss's possible new mantra. However, that's just a different way of saying "getting old"....
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Thanks to Tim for being so open in this conversation and thanks to you for watching. Love all the comments people are leaving. Per the intro you can find more about Tim plus links to mental health resources and references to topics discussed in the show notes on the episode page here: bit.ly/richroll770
I'm trying to write this to be as gentle as possible, but something I've noticed with Tim Ferris is his extreme self-absorption. It's all about optimization of himself, being obsessed with personal performance, being obsessed with me, me, ME. No where in any of his discussions with other people on his podcast, or interviews does he show any interest, care of concern over anything other than how this person, conversation, can be of utility to him.
Thanks to you both. Followed you both since the early days and queue up your latest conversations for the long solitary trail runs...I appreciate you for staying in front of the paywall. Because of that I buy every book and support you in any way along the journey.
@@mizzounyc first time hear the dude and couldn't last for 5 minutes.
He's full of it
@@mizzounycMaybe that is the path to make someone like him exists❤
Tim has always been ahead of the curve. I’ve learned so much from his content over the years and this discussion was spectacular. It’s clear he’s done and he’s doing the work to constantly evolve himself and thank you Rich for being such a thoughtful interviewer. I always learn from you as well! beyond blessed to have access to this information into be able to call you both friends as well. Keep going!
Hubes out here spreading the love
Thank you Andrew. Your support means the world and the work you are doing continues to be a North Star - not just for its content but perhaps more so for its spirit of service to others. We learn together and share together.
As far as I am concerned, you guys are the big three heavy hitters in the land of serving. Thank you for being there for yourself enough to reach those who are open to usable and actionable science-based information that propels and oils the wheels of being well and well-being as a human trying to just be. 🙏 . 😇😇😇
Professor Huberman, thank you for being such a fantastic role model. A friend and I were discussing this today literally; we really look up to you. Thank you.
Do wonderful to see how you guys empower each other and being generous with one another.
Psychedelics definitely have the potential to deal with mental health issues like anxiety and depression, they really helped me.
Yes. Doctor_coxx
Is he on instgram?
Yes. He delivers anywhere and also it’s discreet, I mean if that's what you're worried about
0:08: 🧠 The speaker discusses their journey of self-discovery and healing, including a childhood trauma and its impact on their life.
11:14: 💡 The speaker reflects on the impact of their hyper-analytical thinking toolkit and how it has shaped their journey, while also discussing the importance of vulnerability and sharing personal struggles.
20:36: 💡 The speaker reflects on the importance of addressing trauma and cultivating self-love, suggesting that engaging with these issues is more likely when one realizes the limitations of external achievements and recognizes the need for inner growth.
30:32: 💡 Having hope is important in overcoming shame and taking meaningful action in addressing personal issues.
39:41: 🔑 The speaker discusses the importance of maintaining hope and finding ways to work with their inner critic, despite feeling broken and hopeless for many years. They emphasize the need for purpose and the ability to change one's interior experience. Journaling and asking oneself what they are unwilling to feel are helpful tools.
57:57: 💡 The speaker discusses their interest in psychedelics and their potential benefits for hyper rigidity, as well as their personal experiences and observations.
1:00:01: 🧠 The speaker shares their personal journey with psychedelic experiences, including the positive effects and a dangerous encounter, leading them to research and invest in the field.
1:10:17: 🌱 The speaker discusses the need for responsible regulation and oversight of psychedelic compounds and cannabis due to their potential risks and adverse effects.
1:20:17: ⚠ The speaker discusses the challenges of implementing therapy with psychedelic compounds at scale and the importance of therapist training and personal experience.
1:29:50: 💡 The speaker discusses the importance of qualified supervision and rehabilitation after using certain compounds, the exciting research in imaging and new molecules, and the potential benefits of group therapy and integration.
1:39:51: 🎙 The speaker discusses the negative impact of social media algorithms and the importance of prioritizing personal well-being over financial gain in podcasting.
1:52:38: 🎮 The speaker discusses the process of selecting guests for the podcast and the intentionality behind it, as well as the importance of having a clear purpose and value proposition in influencing others.
1:57:56: 🎙 The speaker discusses the importance of having novel conversations that bring something valuable to the audience, the significance of scientific literacy, and the need to optimize mental health and social time.
2:06:57: 📚 The speaker enjoys looking back at their past and finds it to be a form of diary.
Recap by Tammy AI
Tammy AI is very smart but cannot figure out that "The Speaker" has a name and it is Tim. 🤔
Just by the title this sounds refreshing as opposed to hard hustle content that has plagued my feed lol. Can't wait to listen.
Wow same here
But also, this is the new “thing”. Fads are so annoying.
“Hustle content”. Love that, and yes, so tired of that crap.
I’m a digital nomad today because of Tim Ferris’ book “4 Hour Workweek” 20 years ago ~! ❤
What business did you create in order to get to this point, and if I may ask, how much are you making?
There's nothing more refreshing than seeing Tim talking about "transcending productivity".
In terms of harm reduction I offer this as a woman in her mid 60s who grew up in the San Francisco Bay area and married a Berkeley guy who ended up being just a rager and on all fronts. A party boy at heart but also a serial wife-beater, baby shaker; phony who loved all manners of drugs as well as psychedelics, and thought of himself as a shaman. He had quite the messiah complex and ended up after several arrests and breakups and getting a teenager pregnant at 50 years old, all moved in on CIIS (above board and underground) to get buy of all things a Marriage and Family Counseling license. When he died his handle was "educator" as if. He became the headmaster's favorite trippin buddy who he paid my child support to, to make it look like he was legitimately working on himself when he was actively and geavily using and dragging everybody that didn't give him what he wanted to court when he wasn't drugging them willy-nilly, using adult child support from his enabling mother. He had the audacity to tell me that his favorite part of the job was going to small retreats with vulnerable female "clients" and dosing them with MDMA then sexually assaulting them... I mean healing them wink-wink-nudge-nudge. These rappey dudes are everywhere in psychedelics and always have been like yoga and meditation... hollywood/n.y., your daughters' college, and you might want to talk to Rick Doblin (but better Dave Nickols) all about how these kinds of guys even the ones that speak at conferences and where they predate as well, Burning Man, Peru; IN THERAPY,, about their cover-ups. Classic charlatans use these substances as date-rape drugs. Beware.
This is exactly what I've been needing to hear. I think I've followed too many personalities on hustle culture and noticed that most of them are in their 20s or early 30s. It's honestly caused fatigue. I love that we have more influential voices showing us the journey from thriving outward but also cultivating inner awareness. Thank you for this!
I did psilocybin (5g+) in my early 20s and it essentially cured most of my mental issues stemming from childhood trauma. Toughest experience in my life, while also the most beautiful. I call it a chemical enlightenment, because that's exactly what it felt like. I know this topic is getting beat to death, but it's not unwarranted.
Hmmm ... interesting. But how did that work exactly? Did you have that intention going in?
It is NOT being beaten to death.
THANK YOU for sharing, please spread your story so others can awaken to the beauty of plant medicine.
Trauma and the Soul by Donald Kalsched - "Trauma is injury to the capacity to feel." Thank you Tim for sharing!
Loved this conversation so much! Thank you to Tim for being vulnerable and showcasing a comprehensive perspective... I deeply value his ability to share multiple sides of the same topic and attempts to be considerate to make sure people know it's not a one size fits all. Being able to change our minds as we learn more and our values change in life is also an incredible skill, especially when having a public presence. Rich is an incredible host as always! Grateful for you both, and the studio is sharp!
few years ago I was literally saved by Tim recommending Radical Acceptance. That started my long journey to the recovery from a very deep depression. Still feeling this gratitude for that old podcast where Tim shared his story and mentioned this book. Much love to both of you ❤
Thanks for sharing. I hope you're still going well on your journey.
I just noticed Rich has now reached a million subscribers! Yes, that’s definitely a business! Well done Rich and crew!! 🎉🎉🎉
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God bless Tim Ferris and give him all the peace and grace that only a higher power can give. We love and RESPECT you, Tim. You have changed millions of lives in ways that you can never imagine. You are a blessing to humanity.
Thank goodness that Tim got in touch with his humanness!!!!!
Appreciate so much that someone like Tim is finally appealed how important FEELING is. It’s one of the sources for not only becoming whole as a person but also a way to becoming more empathetic and compassionate to others.
Totally agree, we are humans not optimized robots!
Ferriss is a lost soul. He doesnt seem like the sort of person who experiences fully. Quite a sad person frankly.
Tim Ferriss and 1Mil Subs in the same week? Hell yes! Love to see you finally surpassed 1Mil Rich. Something about that number and all the work you've done made my day. Huge congrats!
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:08 🎯 Tim Ferriss discusses productivity, mental health, and new modalities.
01:07 💡 Tim opens up about lifelong struggles with major depressive episodes.
03:37 💔 Tim shares a challenging experience during a silent meditation retreat.
11:12 🧩 Tim realizes the connection between various problems and underlying trauma.
14:53 ❤️ Tim emphasizes vulnerability's power in connecting with others.
18:08 🔗 Tim values real-time conversations in podcasts for empathy.
21:35 ☎️ Tim provides resources and support for mental health and trauma.
23:51 💪 Tim commits to self-love during a book launch period.
24:46 🎯 Tim discusses workaholism and perfectionism as avoidant tendencies.
26:10 🤔 Tim reflects on early engagement in practices like meditation.
27:47 🌱 Recognizing blind spots is essential for inner growth.
29:00 💡 Seeking professional help is crucial for mental health challenges.
31:31 🚦 Tim cautions against ego-driven vulnerability.
34:20 🧠 Tim debunks the misconception of being "broken."
37:40 🏃♂️ Exercise is vital for Tim's mental well-being.
38:10 💔 Emphasizing hope over hopelessness when dealing with trauma.
45:13 🧘♂️ Meditation increases self-awareness and manages inner dialogue.
46:05 😔 Tim acknowledges tough days in mental health work.
47:39 🔑 Tara Brach's quote sparks inner growth and acceptance.
48:32 🌱 Tim's interest in mental health, psychology, and psychedelics.
49:27 📚 Impactful books and the "Waking Up" meditation app.
50:49 😴 Sleep's importance for productivity and well-being.
52:11 🚀 Psychedelic-assisted therapy's transformative potential.
54:02 🚧 Caution and responsibility in psychedelic use.
58:34 🔍 Funding psychedelic research and preserving knowledge.
01:09:19 🚨 Tim's concerns about mainstreaming psychedelics.
01:12:44 🔬 Tim discusses psychedelic compounds and reshaping beliefs.
01:13:25 ⚠️ Acknowledging adverse events and responsible use.
01:16:05 🏢 Regulatory oversight and therapist training.
01:19:04 🎓 Developing curricula for psychedelic therapy.
01:22:28 🧪 Understanding different psychedelics and group therapy.
01:26:09 🌐 Progress and challenges in psychedelic research.
01:33:23 💡 Tim's approach to content creation and influence.
01:36:01 🎙️ Reflecting on Tim's podcast journey and caution with new platforms.
01:37:24 🎙️ Tim's identity as a writer and intentionality with labels.
01:39:19 📈 Many creators prioritize growth over meaningful content.
01:40:25 📱 Cautiously approaching social apps and mental health impact.
01:41:34 🎯 Identifying the "what" and "why" of influence.
01:45:03 🎙️ Podcasting with curiosity and meaningful content.
01:56:13 🎙️ Creating Evergreen content and stepping away from constant promotion.
01:57:10 🎙️ Tim Ferriss prefers guests who offer unique insights rather than those heavily promoting their work on multiple podcasts.
01:59:24 🧠 Scientific literacy is crucial in the age of AI-generated disinformation.
02:01:57 📚 Tim appreciates poetry and values social time and mental health.
02:04:29 🚶 Tim shifts his perspective to embrace diverse perspectives.
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love the emoji. good work
Two of the greatest podcasters of all time sitting across from each other. What a special moment.
50:15 -> that is the point!
No mind is empty.
Look at your thoughts, look at the attached ideas and emotions.
Detach your ideas and emotions.
Let the pictures come and go.
That's the flow!
Tim’s ability to stay curious (open) and challenge himself through life’s trials and errors is inspiring.
This is an important episode. I bought all of Tim's books and often felt like I wasn't good enough because I could never apply them and execute like Tim. Now I know that Tim was never an idol or someone to put on a pedestal, only human.
It's incredible what Tim has achieved while being handicapped by 3-4 depressive episodes a year for a large part of his adult life.
I knew he had issues with depression, but I didn't realize his depression was that severe. I totally relate to his episodic depression and hope the best for him.
…… he is worth 100s of millions of dollars. Sometimes people are just pussys
So powerful. I love how thoughtfully and humbly Tim is making waves in the psychedelic therapy space. A dear friend of mine took his own life after a bout of self-medicating with ketamine. He was trying to replace alcohol with ketamine and had no real support system in place to do so. You have both done a huge service by talking about the good, the bad and the ugly. Thank you 🙏
Very sorry to hear. ❤
What Tim is talking about re: his life’s challenges are common, one doesn’t have to have sexual abuse when they were 2-4. Although that’s horrible, we’re all affected by growing up from parents, trauma (like for me my father passing at 16), siblings, school, natural tendencies, etc. Rich Roll recently interviewed Dr Richard Schwartz of IFS-to me, that’s the answer in and out of a therapist’s office.
IFS is the answer?
I used to find Tim Ferris arrogant, but this conversation helped me to see him in a new light, a more humble and human one that has really been enjoyable. Thank you.
He used to be a bit arrogant, but he is human as we all are, and he obviously matured and developed as a person.
I so appreciate you, Rich! You are such an incredible man. Both of you are! It is so beautiful to watch you both grow right in front of our eyes. Thank you so very much for sharing your amazing journeys. Thank you for being what Timothy Leary called the 'Outlaws'---those renegade cells that push the envelope, blaze the trail for others to follow more easily. I began this journey when I was 17 year old unwed mother and was granted a work scholarship at Esalen Institute in 1969 and it changed my entire life, including working with Timothy Leary for an entire summer producing his first Computer/Brain/Consciousness workshop in Santa Monica decades later......Life is such an amazing journey!
YES! Sounds like he's embracing and cultivating his feminine essence as to balance out the masculine behaviour of the last years. By the way nothing wrong with it, but too much of one thing makes us unbalanced within ourselves. And Rich congratulations on the not important & so well deserved million. Thank you for this! Tim & Rich 😍🥰
No great interviewee without great interviewer. Gratitude to Rich Roll for creating such wide deep space for Tim to express his truths. I dream of a conversation between Tim Ferris and Bob Boman, Michael Phelps' legendary coach on living unoptimized
This is such a powerful , authentic and inspiring conversation! We have all learned so much from Tim over the years and really appreciate his contribution to mankind. Thank you both for this video . ❤
It’s like I am watching Tim grow up who helped me grow up when I discovered him 9 years ago. And now THIS KINDA VULNERABLE talk is showing me direction since here’s exactly where I am stuck.
I think this is my favourite Tim interview ever. So unique and open. Thank you
My guys! Been listening to Tim for a LONG time and picked up on Rich about three years ago. Super GRATEFUL for each. “Inception level intention”… Give me another hour or two of conversation after your hike together. And stoked for Rich hitting 1 mil. Well done!
My brother was sexually abused repeatedly from the age of 8 by our grandfather who we moved in with after my parents divorced. These memories didn’t resurface until he was going through cancer treatment at the age of 38 and he was reading Bessel van der Kolk’s book The Body Keeps the Score. He passed away last year at the age of 44 and I know that his sickness was trapped emotions from childhood trauma that manifested years later as a chronic disease and took his life.
I honestly don’t know what the obsession is now with people getting into psychedelics. It almost seems like it is the next “fad”. I listened to a Suzanne Geisman podcast recently and I 100% agree with a comment she made that some windows are just meant to be left closed (something like that). It’s important to deal with trapped emotions, but we don’t necessarily have to remember what happened. If you have to take psychedelics to access that information I just think you’re going to “play with fire”.
Also, the hyper obsessive driven person that Tim has been up until this point is clearly a result of his need to shut things out, pushing things down. He has been running from his emotions and he made a lot of money selling the “hustle” to people, just as he is now making a lot of money telling everybody that’s it’s now “en vogue” to feel. Credit where credit is due for having these conversations, but why did it need to wait until it became popular to do so 🤷🏻♀️
So interesting that he was so depressed and yet still confident enough to tell others how to live their life in a better way
‘I am broke and nothing will fix it.’ This kind of hopelessness has plagued me my whole life. I think hopelessness is the core of depression. So powerful. Thanks Tim.
hang in there. sorry you have to experience that
Respected Tim, I have just read ur book, 4 hours work week. Competency is a modern term. In the past, it was sincere service. Corporate world has turned it into competence. My prophet Muhammad has always championed service; that’s why he is still in the hearts after 14.5 centuries.
Superb episode.
Wish all podcasts were like this - believable, relatable, enjoyable, insightful and helpful.
Thanks @timferriss for sharing your journey. So helpful! We all have things locked away in compartments. You are shaping and influencing how our generation handles trauma. Thanks Tim!
Tim is superhuman and so powerful mindset !Love his super intelligence brain!
Extended experiential lifespan.. discovering time is not linear. Living a richer, more present life where at times it as if it is my first day on eartth. Treasures are hiding or rather ignored in the 'mundane'
My cup overflows💕
Absolutely love your podcasts Rich
Congratulations on reaching 1 million subscribers.
I’ve seen a number of talks over the years of Tim and he seems the most genuine and at peace with himself than ever… And that’s nice to see.
please share a link to the glass stopper water bottle/ carafe
❤thank you!
Great Podcast, thank you, Rich Roll. Tim Ferris you are an amazing human. Thank you thank you, by God's grace ,I never experienced childhood sexual abuse, but I know so many who did. Your voice, and thoughts will help so many❤
Tim Ferriss is an amazing person and an inspiration. Hope he publishes a new book about the healing journey he has been on.
I remember exactly where I was when I heard the Terry Cruz episode. I waa working overnight in a grocery store and I remember having to go to the restroom for a few minutes because of how emotional it was. Didn't want to be tearing up during work. That was very early in my "podcast journey" and it wss very impactful. Fortunately I have not faced any similar traumatic events but it really made me see things in a different light since.
Wow. Less than 5 minutes in and I’m intrigued. Both of these men a great.
Jack Kornfield is also amazing.
Congrats on 1M Rich!!🥳👏
And what a great guest to have on at this milestone✌🌱
Thank you both for this great interview. Tim is one great example of « using your power for good ». He helped so many people who have then helped and inspired others. To me he’s Also an example of integrity. He followed his own values and his logic to the point where it had to completely transform him. « Follow the argument wherever it leads » ; it lead him to cross over to a different life / a different way to live. That’s the greatest example of courage. Maybe he’ll inspire others to learn to do the same: to think clearly AND feel deeply. ❤ to you both for having this conversation in public.
I'm listening to the part about scaling up and regulations... thinking about the difference between intelligence and wisdom and wondering if facilitating the widespread commercialisation and use of these compounds as a commodity is a wise move. To "extract the molecule" and sell it. Shouldn't the experience be embedded in a culture, with a strong, deep foundation, and values that go along with it? To help the person connect with this culture / world view and those values? I wonder if the wisdom people acquire through using the psychedelics is compatible with the commercial / capitalist mindset of America... I haven't used them, I know people who do, I'm curious, but I can't help wonder about their widespread use within North American culture. @richroll @timferris
This feels like two Vulcans having a conversation. So guarded, preemptive, qualified, and emotionally muted. Fascinating.
That's an interesting comment. I'm intrigued to hear more. Would you have liked to have seen more vulnerability maybe?
BJ Miller is a wonderful inspiration. First introduced to him via Zen Hospice in San Francisco.
Rich thanks for having Tim. You both are originals in a crowded space. Much love to you both.
Love hearing these guys talk. So thoughtful.
12 step approach: little known hustory iof Blls getting sober and embarking on his journey of sobriety: in hisputal, his therapy was conducted using psychedelic therapy. That opened his perspective. In startung AA, he wanted to address this but others felt it would not be in alignment with the 12 step principles so he agreed to leave that part out.
Appreciate the emphasis on clinical support and supervision for these treatments. I do hope that this might provide an option for a hard to reach group of people who desperately need support: First Responders and military. The culture of grit and push through helps in their work but is detrimental to their real lives.
Rich people complaining about how hard life is when you’re rich. How refreshing.
Thank u Rich and the team for bringing the important, relevant conversations needed to help change lives. In so many ways, you have changed mine since the inception of my journey to recovery and wholeness. 🙏🏼
18:49. This is our time in history for ultimate authenticity and that’s pretty much all there is to it.
I had repeated thoughts of a specific abuse from childhood until I experienced a religious dream reframing the abuse as Mother Mary protecting me from the abuser. I cried. I healed. I only recognized her as a woman in a blue veil until a few days later. Then I realized I hd dreamed in color of Leonardo Davinci's sculpture (and paintings of) La Pieta only I was being held.
I have not had that dream since and have been healed from the trauma. No drugs, no fasting, no meditation.
I can’t express how devastating to mental and physical health child sexual abuse is for a large number of people.It’s so devastating because the older you get the more you understand how cruel it is and the more you wish you could do something.I pray I never have to leave any kids i have with anyone (beside my sister or a trusted friend who looks after them alone with no other kids,relatives in the home).I’m willing to accept being poorer to save them from that.I’d rather come across over zealous than to be complacent or too trusting and have a lapse in judgement.
I feel the same.
Me too. Been broke for the first three years of my daughters life even though I have a masters in clinical mental health for this exact reason 😢😊❤
@@susannahcyrus5086 huge respect for you it’s sad that this is the reality but a lot of people rather hope for the best than plan for it
Sounds like a growth in maturity. Humans aren't robots to be "optimised". Living "optimised" all the time is going to burn anyone out long term. Optimising in order to achieve certain short or medium term objectives is fine if done properly, but long term there needs to be a balance of some sort or you're going to crash hard at some point.
As usual, Tim, you are constantly over delivering on the promise. My kids suffer as did my ex, I always share these episodes with them. I remember a mention of a book on this topic… no pressure. The podcasts and long form articles are the best🤗
Me too. I am not broken and I will never be finished learning and expanding my edges and my limits every day. Also I don’t want to do psychedelics. Meditation is the speed I can just about handle.
I have radical acceptance. It’s up next. Maybe I’ll start now. Tim is so similar to me and I can learn so much from this chat.
This particular episode is filled completely with nuggets of absolute gold. I will need to watch this again and again to absorb it all.
Thank you for going everywhere you all did, and especially about the over saturation of communities in psychedelics and podcasting. It certainly obvious and old to see them same authors on all the same podcasts doing their circuits.
Learning to relax and enjoy the journey after being goal focused was a long learning experience.
Thank you for this. I resonated with "How Tim found out that his 17 problems became just ONE"
you rock Rich! thanks for opening the space for Tim! this is some deep space I haven't seen Tim reach in any other podcast, and I've only watched 5 minutes of it as I'm typing it! hahahaha
I love Tim, consume everything he does for 10 years already.
keep rocking guys! 👊🏼🙏🏼💜
I agree that regulation is an important element of safe establishment and distributions of plant medicine. However, gratitude and reverence needs to be given to the many who have propagated these healing modalities in the liminal spaces. Would this moment even be here without unregulated practice? It's just like they say in ceremony - integration. How do we integrate the chaos and wisdom of the past with the engineering and evolving of the future? I believe it can be done! Wonderful interview!
"You are the solution to your problem"!
Love Tim's life journey and that he is sharing it with us 🙏
Another incredibly substantial discussion. This was a welcome dialogue to hear.
Ketamine has improved everything about me. It rewired my brain, starting with the first dose. I no longer get hooked into repetitive thinking. I sleep better. Low dose and under medical supervision
Childhood sexual trauma being the cause of mental health issues is terrible. It’s more of us than we think. 😮 I was also diagnosed as bipolar few years back and medicine and therapy hasn’t helped too much but pushing through. 🙌🏾
Enjoyed this interview very much. The long painful tail of trauma and the role of plant medicines in treating now provides amazing opportunity for healing and growth. Appreciated the caveats as well. I believe that the rigidity and chaos metaphor comes from Dr. Dan Siegal. Appreciate the warmth of your keen listening and insightful responses.
Thank you both for this conversation. On my own healing journey, I appreciate your honest sharing of personal experiences.
Many thanks for this. As someone who has struggled with suicide and ideation I found this genuinely moving. Many thanks to you both.
Looking forward to this one. Two inspirational individuals having another long chat.
After shining our attention on the past x number of times, it always comes down to where do we go from here?
Choosing life over death means to fully embrace our experience and healing with complete openness and acceptance.
Cultivating openness, physical relaxation, awareness, acceptance and compassion for self and others are essential.
The ways to get there:
Physical exercise, sleep, breath work, mantra (chanting, affirmation), meditation, reflection, journaling, and the middle way.
How many ways can we say this?
This was interesting and fascinating and informative and seeds that I don’t have words for yet. Thank you for sharing! ❤ May we all get to a good, purposeful feeling!
~To my fave two gents~🌱✌🌱~KEEP GROWING~🌿🌈🌿
Tim Ferriss can you please do a podcast on your perspective of time dilation? It's such a fascinating concept!
Good morning Tim Ferris 🌞
Rich. Congratulations on the 1Million. You deserve everything. Thank you for everything. I hope your podcast reaches millions and millions more. I’m truly inspired by the way you articulate things, how smart you are, how great your interviewing skills are, and just the man you are. Love you Rich. Thank you thank you for existing. You deserve all the love. @richroll
Blessings on blesssings…thank you both. I love you so much. Feeling so nice listening to you talk.
40 plus AYA ceremonies here and it’s always challenging. Never met anyone that regretted it. If you are taking anti depressants then don’t go. The best “shamans or facilitators” are the ones that keep you safe and stay out of the conversation you are having with the plants
Needed this. Thank you for the authenticity
Congrats on 1m rich! In my mind you had already far surpassed that. Peace love plants !🥦
Re: Shamans, Rich asked, “Is there a space for a responsible regulatory oversight?” I highly recommend The Association for Spiritual Integrity. Membership is free and they do vet these people who claim to be spiritual teachers.
What an episode! so much respect and admiration for both of you.
Get rid of facebook, instagram, and whatever else you post on. Then you will realise how much you do in your life just for a post, or for validation, or to portray someone you think people will like or want to be. It's liberating when you realise you can stop trying to prove yourself to everyone else through a platform that feeds on our feeling of worthlessness and competitiveness.
Thank you both for this interview!
Cannot wait to listen to this ! Thanks Rich
Principles over personalities. Instead of dwindling over the centuries number of principalities only. In which the chaos and death reining called war often breaks out.
I love that Tim is aging gracefully, becoming Jason Stratham like a bad ass looking dude but he sounds and his style is exactly the same from 10+ years ago! 😂 かっこいいっす👍 沢山の人に役立つ事を共有してくれてありがとうございます🙏
Wow! Not only a vipassana retreat but LED by Jack Kornfield? What a bucket list thing to do.
Two of the most influential voices in my life from books and podcasts since 2011 for me, great podcast thanks guys 🙏
If you have me on Rich, I’ll make sure your podcast comes out first 😉
Thumbnail said "peace over productivity" which is alluding to Ferriss's possible new mantra. However, that's just a different way of saying "getting old"....
haha, I am 50 and I know what you mean!