Exploring the SCP Foundation: SCP-6140 - The True Empire
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Thomas Bruce's Daevite fanfic is so lit that it almost became canon
It is in several canons in timelines. But it’s still insane and kinda tragic that a single man completely altered and basically erased a peaceful modern day society just because he preferred their tyrannical blood soaked ancestors.
>tfw your headcanon is better than actual canon
How are you two days ago this video was posted in 2 hours are you an scp?????
The time Traveller has spoken
@@Gabrielfromuktrakill Assuming TES does video previews for patrons, then they would be able to comment before it's released.
I'm envisioning a Foundation MTF panickedly scrambling to halt their combat drop of a partially-sedated SCP-682 on top of Daevastan.
it wouldn't work actually scp682 is smart even though he'd be disoriented at first he'd also remember that the republic isn't a threat to it and more likely to viciously attack the MTF go back back out the little girl scp and take her with him back over there to hide away from them.
@Allen Janco Unless he's a lie too
@@stephanoc9814 yeah but doesn’t it hate human life?
@@ThePowerthatbeMe it hates the scp foundation more I'm sure.
@@ThePowerthatbeMe we...are.... disgusting....
Imagine if you were terrified of mythic Uber Vikings coming back and taking over the world, and then modern Scandinavia pops into existence instead
It really is a funny entry, isn't it? They're expecting this terrible empire..... And just regular modern nation.
That's a good point lmao
Expecting savage invaders and getting social democracy instead
Very accurate synopsis. Cool beans.
Ikea.
“Someone will sell guns to the Daevites”
**Things Dr Bright isn’t allowed to do starts playing**
That speech from Lord of War is now in my head
Why doesn't this have 682 likes?
Give it a chance . . .
We’re getting there
I added like nr 663. Some more
The Children of the Scarlet King after realizing that SCP-140 was just fanfiction: _We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled_
Bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray!
We’ve been speckledorved!
That’s not even a word and I agree with ya!!!
Thomas Bruce : you fool! You fell victim to one of the oldest blunder!
I like the running gag in Scarlet King articles where the Children of the Scarlet King seem to have least understanding of their diety than anyone else lol
So basically, the Children of the Scarlet King fucked up big time and used an SCP in the wrong way, accidentally neutralising a world-ending threat instead of properly unleashing it. Too bad they did such a good job of it that they most likely don't even remember enough to feel stupid about it.
And the scarlet king could also be fake
@@capnsteele3365 that's the one thing I don't really like about this. We have other scps outside of the davites that show he is real. But all in all this was an amazing scp
@@noaboahQR Agreed.
Still,what about Ion? How does he figure into this?
@@noaboahQR He could be real and still worshipped by the old dead Daevite Empire, but would have lost most of his supporters once the slave revolt happened.
All they had to do is play keep away with the Foundation for as long as it took to give the book enough writing material for the fake Empire to catch up, but nooo, we gotta do a fancy ritual we don't understand which can out of nowhere.
”Don’t force us back into the dark” that hit me with the force of a train godam
@ADR is Offline thanks for the viewing material when I’m high
The real Daevite Empire were the empire we [REDACTED] along the way
After all... Friendship IS Magic.
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And magic is a problem…. *Glares in GOC*
You see, Harry, the reason Voldemort couldn't bear to touch you was because of the *[REDACTED]* your mother left on you. Her *[REDACTED]* flows through your veins, and so long as you live under her family's roof, Voldemort can't *[REDACTED]* you
Unironically tho
Take my upvote and get out of my sight
How does the SCP foundation protect normalcy when everyone else's idea of normal is suddenly completely different? Love this entry
Really makes you wonder what exactly *is* normal to begin with
@@Eagle_the_18th normalcy is in the eye of the beholder sir
@@Eagle_the_18th one man's weird is another man's Tuesday
@@brandonfitzgerald1457 wise words to live by
SCP-5000 is how they do it
This article is the epitome of „They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.“
We’ve been the victims of the fictionalization of history and culture!
Nah uh.
I ain't buyin it. Sorry.
Yes. You're nice people and all,but da ## do you mean the Scarlet King doesn't exist?!
What about the Sarkists? The Mekhanites? 682? The bros? The weird trees?
Did those really all materialise from one guy writing it all?
How?
@@alyseleem2692 Well as TES always says, canon is what you want it to be
@@evitanigaminU Agreed. Agreed.
I simply don't like this. It hurts al lot of the rest.
@@alyseleem2692 A lot of the rest? Do you mean the other Daevite SCPs and other GOI that have had encounters/run-ins with the Daevite?
Well, this one turned the usual SCP tropes on it's head. As long as every other article doesn't follow this pattern, it's a nice diversion from the usual gloom & doom, sky is failing tone we all know and love.
It’s a complete “The Cake is a lie” moment with what the true modern Daevites are like
More like being bored of with the recent abundance of meta-scps.
6001 was kinda the same right?
@@meo8258 I was just thinking that. I kinda like the idea of the foundation going through character development to be more like their 6001 counterparts
@@newbienoah9461 name one that isn't meta
A VERY interesting twist on the axiom that 'history is written by the victors'.
Sometimes history is written by a rich English proto-weeb.
@@z.adkins862 most history was written by rich, English, proto weebs which is why in the historical and archaeological communities there is a growing number of people who are reexamining the findings of many British scholars from the age of exploration all the way to modern times. Their history of imperialism and white washing of history is so well known that people are quite literally double checking their work to make sure they didn't fuck anything major up. It's truly fascinating
Welp, time to go to Mars and ask the robots to get busy....
I mean, people still think the Crystal Skulls and Mayan Calendar thing are real. A lot of history is written by a Englishman who turned his grave robbing hobby into a legacy and a book deal.
@@exilestudios9546 OH extremely so. I got a buddy who's going for his degree in archeology and so much of what he describes the process as is double checking what was already written to see if it's case number googleplex of British Man Disbelieving Africans/East Asians/The Irish Knew How to Put Block A Ontop of Block B.
Its amazing how hard you can get blindsided by a happy ending when you've read so much dystopian grimdark content.
Ikr. Not only that but this invoke several topics such as bright the empire to a happy and realistic end as well as teach a lesson of historical inaccuracies by egotistical people.
"Wait, where's the death and existential dread?"
@@sparking023 At the beginning of the article.
@@littlebaldedone they made something dark and mysterious normal. I mean yeah it’s a twist, but just feels so bland and simple.
@@reverendrico5631 the real horror was western centric interpretations of foreign cultures that were modified for the sake of entertainment all along.
Like for real, I think this works not because of the twist, but because this is a thing that happens in real life all the time. Just look up stuff about people asking whatever happened to the Mayan civilization and the like.
There is middle ground - there was anomalous Deavite Empire, but not as powerful as Thomas Bruce wanted it. And it fallen due to slave rebellion. There was cult of Scarlet King but it was limited to really higher ups of Empire and was secret. There was some anomalous tech in use, but not on mass scale. So actual-actual history was not as creazy and brutal as Thomas Bruce wanted, but also not as peaceful as it come out in the end.
OK....
That's actually pretty good.
Now all we need is Ion's story. He lead a slave rebellion in the original canon,leading to the fall of the Daevites, but the rise of Sarkicism....
So there was a period of history in which he ruled the country. Or most of it.
@@alyseleem2692 I mean you could also say that that part is complete fiction made by Thomas Bruce... Like the Grand Karcist Ion was never actually a part of Daevite history or wasn't as instrumental as being the one that led to a slave revolt. He could have just been an active player in the area.
I could just imagine Thomas Bruce being like "hmmm they practiced cannibalism you say? Oh I know how to make this more spicy! Why not add this obscure occult historical figure I know"
Well thats true,norse counteries used to have a brutal past of barbarism but it didn't define their modern society.
@@Madrigal025 And that's exactly what I want to avoid.
I don't buy the idea of him creating most known SCPs in the blink of an eye, or with pen and paper. Middle ground is good. Sarkists know their history. That's it.
Ion himself was the son of a Daeva. A Daeva! He earned a place in that history with blood. I ain't taking it away for some Aesop.
Another idea - Daeva were potent reality benders, and created Thomas Bruce in future to actively move themselves into fiction/parallel reality to safe themselves from rebellion of Sarkicists? Also Daevastan, is "shadow" or "stepping stone" for real Daevas to return to reality - even if it is not Daevite empire. But that area can soon get nasty for Foundation and groups of reality benders will show up all over the place.
It just occurred to me: If, instead of choosing to _burn_ 140, the CotSK had _drowned it in their blood,_ would the CK(/SK?)-class scenario that Bruce wanted & the Foundation feared have come to pass?
Now _That_ would be an interesting scenario for a Tale/Canon!
I like to imagine that's what originally happened but an MTF found some way to retroactively undo it.
That’s exactly what I thought was gonna happen when he said that the ritual had been completed. I thought the MTF was going to enter the room and see several bloodless corpses lying around the open SCP-140.
It said it spontaneously combusted, not burnt, so probably it was a result of performing the ritual instead being part of it.
This feels reminiscent of the SCP tale "Fear Alone" regarding SCP 231-7 (another Scarlet King entity) and Procedure 110-Montauk. We're lead to believe that some horribly depraved and indescribable act is regularly performed on an innocent little girl when the reality is actually rather wholesome. It makes you wonder if this is the case with ALL entities related to the Scarlet King. We are shown the shadows of mice and told they are lions.
"He ain't that big. You ain't that small."-Tupac Shakur.
The Foundation & The Children of the Scarlet King: Bro wtf, you lied to us
Thomas Bruce: _See, I pulled a sneaky on ya_
682 & 999: MY LIFE IS A LIE
@@aliveandwellinisrael2507 Nah they be like: WHO'S MY DADDY AAAAAAAAA
Sarkists and Mekhanites: Ayeayeayeayeayo what the ####?!
Daeviteboos leaned it the hard way that having a hyperviolent cannibalistic group of people roaming around in Siberia was not a good idea at all as they were wiped out in prehistory lol. Only in the reality where the Daevites were much less like other civilizations (albeit they were highly dependent on slavery ) could they survive much longer in written history to the point where the fanfiction was written by Thomas Bruce
Imagine how the Sarkists feel...
Ion: Am I a joke to you?
Not all is always what they may seem. History can often be distorted and/or altered to have groups be different to how they were in reality or events that never actually occurred. For all we know a civilization that we’ve seen for decades as bloodthirsty powerful conquerors…might not be the same as they are in the modern times.
History is less certain than we are taught
We'd see the bodies. Mass killings are the easiest cause bodies everywhere means bad things
Alright. That is true. Very true,in fact....
But what confuses me is the rest. What do you mean the Scarlet King doesn't exist?! What about Sarkicism? And the Mekhanites? All of these people and more are connected by cause and effect to this empire. Anomalies of all shapes and sizes have been found. Their culture has history stretching across....
Everything! Even the two brothers! Even 682,the son of the King!
I'm confused.
Could all that come from a single guy writing fanfiction into reality? Why the ### would anyone do that? Why? What's in it for him?!
@Mike Turner we would know. human bones burned ashes look different from sand
@@alyseleem2692 i dont know, he was just diffenrt int he brain
I think this is a good addition in a foundation era where all major Groups of Interest have more nuance than when they first started. A non-anomalous Daevastan being haunted by the shadow of an empire that never really existed is pretty interesting, you could have a canon based around it pretty quickly.
There should absolutely be a Canon about this.
The whole point of this article is contradictory when you realize that they wiped the nation of Kazakhstan along with its people and culture out of existence by appearing on top of them.
A world without Borat is one I don't want to be in
@@Seir Borat is now Devastani and still hates assholes in Uzbekistan. So not much has changed.
Everyone: well, it's so well it didn't end in bloodshed
Kazakhstani employees in Foundation secure sites: bruh.
I think that giving the way the book works, kazakhstan was an anomalous country that replaced the real thing
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 or the foundation is wrong and Kazakhstan was the real nation and Daevistan is merely an evolved nation growing from a collapsed blood thirsty and partially anomalous empire. It’s entirely possible that the real history was lost in the following conflicts and revolutions over the next millennia.
The largest slave population - 75% of the total population.
Me: Cool, now tell me about the bloody rebellion.
Only higher in the Domination of the Draka
@Zoomer Waffen It's not impossible, just very, very difficult. I would assume assassinations and ambushes would play a major role. And you can always throw numbers until [stack overflow]
@Zoomer Waffen OK, that's different. I'm thinking in-universe. Author's intentions rarely come to play, when I read/listen to SCP articles.
@Zoomer Waffen The stuff about Clef guy is very disturbing.
I personally didn't have much trouble with the article, as presented in the video (I haven't read the actual one, need to catch up on the scps, or even restart). Yes, it breaks continuity, but also all SCP-001 do the same. Because canon is loose in SCP lore, it easy for me to rationalize away these issues.
Who says we need some grand tale of interconnected SCPs, when a disconnected, multiverse can be interesting as well.
I guess it's a personal point of view.
Oh man I was gettin all worked up for a Foundation at war episode, with them becoming seen to this new world like a chaos insurgency using anomalies to try and reset reality from their little reality bunkers but it's like "Nah we chill now let's all be friends"
I would be happier if that was the case, but this story was nice at least.
@@flaviomadeiramirandafilho3469 NO IT WASNT IT FUCKING SUCKED
@@josephanfinson4954 I personally think it was pretty good but to each their own
@@josephanfinson4954 No need to be triggered and worked up about it... lol.
A nation can change and become better.
I think this is my favorite SCP to date.
Foundation inside a bunker on the 19th of March: Okay guys, brace for the impact. Once 6140 happens we'll know soon enough on the radio....
20th of March: "...Meanwhile in Daevastan, the football underdogs FC Daevas has won their first national league while the visiting French president Macron is about to visit the Ab-Leshal Cultural Center this evening."
SCP Foundation: Wait what?
I love so much that the all powerful daevite empire was not immune to the slow cogs of history.
Also having 75% of your total population being slaves will destroy your empire, jee who would have thought
Well history is actually pretty clear, since it’s happened before. As long as you give them the illusion of some control over their lives, nothing at all will happen. At least until there is a drought or famine, in which a civil uprising will occur, but it wouldnt be slave related.
@@reverendrico5631 Tell haitian plantation owners that
@@TheSamgo you mean the people that didn’t give their slaves the illusion of choice? Then ones that didn’t give them bread and circus? The ones that didn’t do the thing I said would prevent uprising?
What do they have to do with this?
Whenever I read Daevite articles, this is what I imagined they would become in modern day. Blood lust slave city just doesn’t work in a modern setting. Modern Daeva would be a modern nation. I like it
We have blood lust slave cities right now, they're just not on quite the same scale.
@@EnvisionerWill fair point
@DEEPFOXJUDE Much of the former Soviet Union comes to mind; Russia has a former gangster as its official president, and criminal syndicates spawned by the Soviet union exist in sufficient strength that they're probably running several entire towns as fronts for prostitution and the like. Various Islamic states also tolerate similar activities to varying degrees, especially when the victimizers are Muslim and the victims are not. In the US, Detroit and Chicago are pretty close to this level of urban decay. The entire Narco culture in Mexico and the Colombian cartels, also. And of course, these are only the examples I've heard about; the really bad places probably remain unknown to the global media, either because they're being intentionally suppressed to prevent people from losing faith in the world's governments, or simply because whatever mafias are running the place have managed to keep it under wraps. The point is, the Daeva are an exaggerration of things that really happen, not a completely fantastical thing.
@DEEPFOXJUDE You're not wrong. The Daevite Empire would have qualified as Third World by pretty much any definition in its heyday as well. It's awesome for whoever's on top of the pyramid, but the same is true for whatever warlord is running a particular chunk of Africa and allowing 95% of the population to starve. And even a place like America is only somewhat better. The Daeva are just a parody exaggerration of what every society is like to varying degrees.
I think modern daevites would have smth like a caste system
Imagine the faces of the council when they realise that they have been trolled.
Of all the things in SCP, the one thing I wasn't expecting was a prolonged historiography joke. For those who know a bit about the subject, a lot of lesser British aristocrats wrote fanfic versions of real countries in the late 1700's-early 1800's and real life historians today are still having trouble separating the bullshit dreamed up by a bored opium addict and real history.
I do not know anything about this
@@MichaelRobertHart A bit late, but they'd do things like invent Pacific Islands from scratch & describe its location, ecosystem, etc. The rest is mostly stereotyped BS so it's easier to pick apart from real history than you might think. Typically the stickiest history comes from peoples that wrote little of themselves e.g. Vikings, Sea Peoples, & Mongols since the only records we have come from the folks they raided. Hard to write lies about your enemies when your enemies have pens & paper.
@@bustavonnutz that’s bizarre and amusing. I feel like truth / accuracy is a very modern value
@@MichaelRobertHart You must not watch mainstream media hahaha
@@bustavonnutz hahaha well I suppose that’s part of why I wonder - the obvious intent to push a narrative or thread everything through a particular worldview ‘ bothers’ the average viewer in the present. But I’m thinking of even newspapers in the 1790s, Hamilton vs Jefferson, just a free for all of claims (lies) and that was simply considered normal. That was what those organs were for.
I’m not sure when an institution dedicated publishing reliable (factual) accounts becomes expected, rather than a novelty.
This is such a unique conclusion to an SCP story. Considering the dystopian and grimdark theme of the SCP Mythos, having such a unexpectedly peaceful conclusion makes this article very special and entertaining.
It’s not a conclusion, just another contradicting anomaly. Plenty of other SCPs made by the Daeva still exist. Like, I dunno, the Sarkic cults, which originated from Daevite slaves.
I mean to be fair, empires don’t just last forever. Even so called “anomalous” empires. Assuming that this state existed since the Bronze Age, there is no way this empire could culturally, linguistically, and politically remain stagnant. It’s gonna break apart or something, or a civil war gonna start due to succession disputes. A state 1000 years ago is not gonna look the same today
1:05 *SCP-6140* - 1:34 *Threat Assessment* - 3:55 *Inciting Incident* - 6:29 *Foundation Briefing*
9:10 *BREACH* - 11:22 *Historical Comparisons* - 14:16 *Profile of SCP-140-A* - 16:02 _(Summary)_ - 17:10 *Dr. Jad-Leshal's Testimony* - 23:32 *Outro*
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00:00 Intro
01:05 Description
01:34 *Addendum 6140.1:* Threat Assessment
03:55 *Addendum 6140.2:* Inciting Incident
05:10 + _intention_
06:29 *Addendum 6140.3:* Foundation Briefing
08:03 + _new priorities_
09:10 *ALERT. BREACH HAS BEGUN.* / SCP-6140-A - Republic of Daevastan
11:22 *Addendum 6140.1:* Historical Comparisons
14:16 *Addendum 6140.2:* Profile of SCP-140-A _[Thomas Bruce]_
16:02 _(Summary)_
17:10 *Addendum 6140.3:* Dr. Jad-Leshal's Testimony
17:40 + _Hello, everyone._
18:54 + _myself_
19:56 + _crash course into our history_
21:12 + _bloody past_
22:15 + _a single man saw that past_
23:32 *Outro*
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"The scarlet king, never existed."
Me: This is already where it gets fucked up
Well, if you think about it, the fact that the Foundation successfully isolated themselves from the reality warp creates a paradox where both the blood thirsty Daevite Empire and the real successors of it can coexist seamlessly. In fact, I would say it kinda makes the whole Foundation an anomaly itself because it now is preserving the former existence of the Bad Daevites through their knowledge
Fun with Reality Anchors!
I won't sit here and say that I wasn't looking forward to the modern Daevite Empire blasting into existence, with infantry proficient in blood magic, a professional/modern air force with supranatural abilities, and an entire existence geared towards war going toe to toe with the entire planet, including the relevant national and supranational powers like NATO, CIS, China, and the Five Eyes along with the GOC and everyone else. Nukes, action scenes, atrocities, it was gonna be neat.
But this was such a nice twist and the SCP acting with common sense is such a wonderful change that I can't not love it!
The Children of the Skarlet King: "my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined"
The real Daevites were the friends we made along the way.
That’s actually not far from the truth if some are friends were from Daevastan!
The real Daevites were the [REDACTED] we made along the way.
ftfy
I'm personally loving a lot of the more recent scps. A lot of reinterpretations of existing GOIs in ways that most people wouldn't expect. I really love the amon-iram story in particular.
I really love how this SCP showcases how dangerous misrepresented history can be, and how history is never truly black and white.
You can literally make monsters of people if you deny them of their history.
book "apply liquid only"
cultist "instruction not clear .i set book on fire"
Daevite who just spawned into being two months ago: we're the victims here.
The entirety of dissapeared Kazakhstan: are you sure about that?
@DEEPFOXJUDE or be a neighboring sector if you will
Honestly, even with SCP-6140 correcting Daevastan's history to remove the Anomalous Daevite Empire, it doesn't mean the latter can't remain a potential threat. If Daevastan has anything resembling an Ethnic Nationalist movement, they might consider the notion of a supernaturally-powerful, potentially world-dominating Daevite Empire a tempting notion, and seek to reclaim what they see as their "rightful place" in the world.
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Wow 👏.
You actually made it interesting.
realistically no one, and especially not the nationalists, would take an orientalist book seriously. they would have to know about the anomalous past of the book first and even then who knows if they would consider it the depiction of the empire their "rightful place", or a bastardisation of their cultural identity (which is centred around being free slaves, rather than slave masters)
Thats predicated upon the assumption that the slave base is mainly made up of a single ethnicity that is influenced by Darvite historical nationalistic ideas. Which is highly unlikely, since slaves are almost always ubiquitously multicultural in almost every Earth setting
even during the period that the daevite empire existed pre scp-6140, the eurasian step at that time wouldve had hundreds of ethnic groups. even the more ethnicly homogenous states (the stans in Central Asia) have alot of ethnic diversity. I highly doubt that with the veil intact, more than a couple hundred daevastanis would be convinced. A revolution where the leaders say " you will all be enslaved and we will eat your babies" would not get off the ground.
I mean without anything anomalous, they arent a huge concern to the Foundation. They are just another extreme nationalist group with their own jingoistic myths and legends. Dangerous perhaps, but mor a task for the more mundane authorities.
Anyone remembers the number of the machine SCP that reshapes reality to eliminate anomalities?
I remember very distinctly that it struggled or glitched out whenever it tried to "eliminate" SCP 140. This resulted in it gaining its SCP status in the first place as it proceeded to try to kill off humanity instead.
Well, SCP 6140 just explained why; the "true" reality wasn't actually "our" current reality, which is why this machine attempted to wipe us out instead
Scp 001: The Solution
Listening to this again and I realize it’s only 6days away…
First thing I thought of when I saw this title is:
“I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire.”
Your new Empire? Resoulute2007, my allegiance is to the Republic, TO DEMOCRACY!!!
@@michaelandreipalon359 if you’re not with me, then you’re my enemy.
@@Resoulute77 Only a [REDACTED] deals in absolutes.
@@sanstheskeleton8104 Dark-Sided Anie didn't say that though.
Can't help but love this version of the Daevites. Or rather, Daeveatanians
I kinda want to see more about the newer ones. The older ones kinda bored me.
*Daevastanis
...
I personally don't.
Now,just allow me to explain:
A nice Daevite society is cool and all,but we depended on these guys for TONS of anamolous history. Think Ion. Think Scarlet King. Think Sarkists. Think Mekhanites. Think most anamolous archeology.
They were literally our main source...
So whilst I do find a good,modern Daevite society possible ( nothing stays the same,after all), they gotta stick to at least some of the history we know.
@@alyseleem2692 The empire did still exist so all the stuff that the original society produced is still there. Also the crimson king and the sarkic cults exist as anomalous entities so really this twist doesn't change much.
@@ironrocker100 Ummm....
He just said that the Scarlet King didn't exist. And that the Daevas weren't anamolous. In the video.
I love the Daevites and I've been waiting for this one for a while... Thanks for your hard work ^^
How the Kentucky Fried fuck did you post this 2 days ago the video is barely 10 minutes old
@@ConfusedCaster patreon early release? That's the only thing I can think of.
Apparently early access to paying supporters is an alien concept to most people.
@@ConfusedCaster Early access thanks to Patreon ^^
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@@OniforAli oh yea that makes sense (as much as I would love to I'm super broke)
Imagine waking up one morning and finding out that suddenly the vast majority of the CIA doesn’t remember that Denmark existed. 😨
2019 - Second War of Flesh
2020 - 2021 - Global pandemic
2022 - Daevite Empire
This decade is looking good so far...
The Sarkics caused the "Coof?"
I've always thought that lots of the more grotesquely violent places full of power were far too unrealistic as violence leads to instability by in large if it works its way throughout a culture. I'm glad an entry agrees
"Instability"? I suppose kinda yeah, but I don't think you're making the slam-dunk point that you think you are. Grotesque violence gets *results*; it hardly matters how "unstable" it is, if everyone has a gun to their head and can't do anything about it.
I looked past that mostly because they had magic plant golems and had one of the best SCPs, the book. Also, their fake history also had a lot of rebellions and wars so and was literally Deux Ex Machina'd out of extinction tons of times.
@@EnvisionerWill I guess the argument is it is impossible to maintain something coherently powerful while also being inherently unstable. Think how much resources and planning it has to do to get a modern military, how much metal for weapons, burercarcy for troops, economy for finance. Not many people will be willing to start a great tech company on next-generation weapons research when the economy is unstable or share development secrets with one anyone if backstabbing each other is the only way to crawl up the social ladder.
"Who posts a video at three in the morning?"
TES: "Oh boy, 3 AM!"
mhmm cuz it's 3am everywhere in the world at the same time.... that's some SCP shit
The power of timezones!
Thomas must be the biggest troll in the whole of the SCP universe. The Children of the Scarlet King did so much nonsense, and even the Foundation was scared and then suddenly *Bam* the country simply had suffered from Thomas fanfiction.
Why do these always make me cry? It can be a dragon, a computer, or a nation state and it always brings me to the brink, man.
My lord, o5-01's message just sent chills down my spine, the foundation is trully a powerful force
SCP Foundation : Phew...
Children of Scarlet King : I don't understand, it suppose to work.
Scarlet King: My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Thomas Bruce : you fool! You fell victim to one of the oldest blunder
Gotcha! Scarlet King ain't a thing no longer.
Don't ask me why. He said it. I can just feel a hundreds of SCPs vaporized out of existence.
@DEEPFOXJUDE Nope.
Kinda in between. His effect on reality was real. The Montauk procedure was still necessary.
@DEEPFOXJUDE I'm sorry. Your question needs a far more thorough explanation:
The Scarlet King isn't an ideal,in this version. He is the representative of the conflict between two ideals,the Law of Blood and the Law of Concrete. He is very much an existing being, but he exists outside the reaches of our current reality,and cannot currently enter it. Thus,he needs to be empowered in order to do so. The Foundation, through it's study and attempts to explain the anamolous and the rituals behind it as well as prevent or use them,ironically does exactly that.
How does this fit with his mythical origin story?
Not really,but some interpretation can help. At the very least,he's a god of contradiction and anomalies.
WHY IS THE SCARLET KING BEING PLAYED BY SARGENT HOLT?! LMFAO
Everyone talks about the Republic of Dave-istan but nobody talks about the Kingdom of Tom-istan.
And luckily the foundation is still in the dark about the true puppetters of the world: the Tunnel snakes.
They rule.
"We can change our fate... We can change the future... We can change... the past..."
-Thomas Bruce & STARSET
Great article. A very unique twist as far as I'm concerned.
A beautiful way to show you that even an ancient civilization that we’ve seen as powerful blood soaked conquerors ruled by tyrannical cannibalistic sorcerers could change and/or be completely different in the modern day from how they were in the past
@@undeadprinceofchaos3731 I don't think you get it correctly. IMO it's actually a satire on the orientalist attitude or mindset that you can see even today(tho much rare now).
@@undeadprinceofchaos3731 In this timeline, the Daevite's past became a horrifying blood empire with mysterious power only because some random Orientalist's wet dream. Daevites didn't ask for it and they were actually the first to forbid slavery, they are nowhere not as 'civilized' as others if not better.
@@Albert_C Yeah, it’s actually pretty tragic when you think about. A single man tried to erase/rewrite an entire society just because he was a simp for their bloodthirsty ancestors.
NO WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU THIS QUITE LITERALLY BRUTE FORCING A TRIANGLE INTO A CIRCULAR HOLE
Does this “new” dayvite empire mean all SCP’s relating to the old were neutralized/rewritten (not literally on the database, but as a consequence)?
Yeah that seems to be the case, but as with the rest of the SCP foundation, not all entries fit into the same reality. You could consider this entry an AU apart from the other Daevite SCP’s.
Nope
It could also mean that the origins of the scps are simply different in reality
I think maybe it's just their relationship to the Davites. Like Sarkics probably still exist in some form, their skrim with the Davites is probably rewritten.
only within the continuity of this specific SCP. Even then, it's possible that the SCP's relating to 140 and the daevites still exist in 6140's "fixed" reality but are changed to not be related to the daevites anymore
I am doubly impressed by this entry. I love how it so seamlessly reworks The Daeva from what the Foundation and others were, given their understanding, rightly terrified of into a nation like any other and the meta commentary on about how history on an ancient civilisation, even one that is still extant, can be (and has been) rewritten to present a wildly divergent vision of what they were like that becomes an accepted ‘history’ in cultures geographically and or chronologically far removed from them.
This entry is truly something very special and clever.
NO ITS PRETENTIOUS AND FORCED POLITICAL COMMMENTARY
@@josephanfinson4954 No less pretentious and 'political' than acting as if such misrepresentations of non-Western cultures has never happened and that such a position cannot be challenged. This is a perfectly valid topic to explore and I think it's done well - if you don't agree, fine treat 140 and the other entries as canon and don't bother people who think 6140 is clever!
Not going to lie I had a very interesting reaction to this one. It definitely was unexpected how it turned out. But makes perfect sense given the world we live in.
Buddy, I’m pretty sure we ALL didn’t see this coming. I was certainly not expecting peaceful Daevastan instead of the savages of The Empirical Daevites
I think it's brilliant; we're here for SCPs, for crazy anomalies and, in the case of a sarkic SCP, some disgusting body horror. and instead of a K-Class scenario, the dudes are just non-anomalously vibing as a former Soviet -stan country. even the first to outlaw slavery. props to the writer
The scp entries are not meant to describe the world we live in.
Aye aye, I appreciate the message and all,but this ,pretty much all the histories we got for the factions is supposed to be from them. The Sarkists. By extension, the Mekhanites. The Scarlet King. 682. Cain and Abel. All of them and more...
What do you mean, the Scarlet King doesn't exist?!
Can you vague that up for me, Giles?
Definitely impossible to have a set cannon, because with every new entry the SCP world becomes more anomalous than not, between enormous entities, anomalous buildings, roaming abominations, you’d be lucky to not walk outside your house and melted by a anomalous fart lol
So...this is literally just what Richard Wagner did to norse mythology, but anomalous. Quite cute.
Context please?
@@heinrichze-france4089 if I recall correctly the majority of what we know of Norse mythology is from Christian sources who had all the reason to portray them as barbaric raiders. I think the so called blood eagle is the best example, when the sources about it come hundreds of years after the fact so its debatable whether it actually happened or not.
@@heinrichze-france4089 Wager was an Opera Composer who was basically a massive weeb for Norse Mythology.
I wonder what happened to the Sarkics after the reappearance of Daveastan, wouldn’t they be wiped from existence due to the lack of a need for Ion to rebel?
Exactly!
Where the ### is the rest of the lore in this?!
What do you mean the Scarlet King doesn't exist? That means nothing happened ! No bloody empire,no Sarkic cults,no conflict with the Mekhanites,no 682,no weird gardens,no bros,almost no anamolous history,nothing!
A nice Daevite country is good and all,but....
Not this.
@@alyseleem2692 That's what tales and different canons are for. SCP's don't tend to tell you every detail on how they effect the world and history around them, so I wouldn't expect it to go into detail in this document.
However, it is inherently interesting to think on your own the cumulative ramifications of the Daevite Empire not only being foiled long ago, but being entirely non-anomalous
@@dontaejones7419 Yeah,but that's the problem. It says quite plainly two things:
1. There ain't no Scarlet King.
2. The Daevites were normal.
The sheer scale of changes from these two statements is so immense that part of me wouldn't be surprised if the Foundation didn't exist! It just brings down everything in some way or another, with very few exceptions.
I simply cannot comprehend it. This guy made a book that twisted reality enough to create an ancient evil outside of reality itself so powerful that he threatens all of existence, and has existed since time immemorial. Who's also 682's daddy. And the guy that made Abel crazy. And the god of the Daevites,who left at least two of the biggest anamolous civilisations and organisations in history!
If they've not anamolous, who the ### is?! Where da ### do all these things come from?
@@alyseleem2692 Again, someone will expand on this foundation to fill in the gaps. Just because you can't comprehend the changes just yet doesn't mean it's a problem (the 6000 series is still fairly new after all, things are yet to be fully explored from this batch of SCP's).
This is undoubtedly a new canon waiting to be explored. There is absolutely space here to change the origins/actions and mentalities of different groups (e.g: Mekane and Yaldabaoth STILL EXIST so followers of them, even if they take different forms due to the lack of Daevic influence, will exist also). Perhaps this can be a canon where the Sarkic Cults and and Church don't exist or are weak or without much power, leading to the main threats being the Fifth Church, the Church of the Second Hytoth and others
@@dontaejones7419 ...
You're right. You're absolutely right.
This..is gonna be weird. But we're gonna get used to it.
Secure. Contain. Protect!
As always the benefit of having no absolute canon can't be over stated here.
I hate the idea of losing such a phenomenal enemy as the colossal Daevite Empire, but as a one off alternate reality article I think this is great.
This, it's a spin off universe. There's a few articles out there that are already stand alone alternate universes this is just another one.
When the world needed him most, he appeared
I'm like cry laughing at SCP 140 literally just being fanfiction. Thank you for your uploads, they truly bring me joy 🖤
It was actually so cool when this connected the Daevites with the Cain and Abel SCPs. I'd really like to see more SCPs that build on unsolved mythology or religion AND more SCPs that connect to stuff like that. Also, the Daevites share similarity to the Proto-Indo-Europeans, so I hope an SCP comes out that builds on that, considering their word for "ruling-class" or "divine" comes from the Proto-Indo-Iranian word for "God".
So, the changes of SCP-6140 ARE the true timeline, and it deviated when Thomas Bruce had the ritual conducted to adapt history to his writings, which was what our prior knowledge was (the timeline where we have SCPs 073 and 076 as Cain and Abel), but now we know that it is actually a changed timeline.
I actually really like this.
in the end its about why you cant let your entire view of an entire people be determined by a single source.
Because , be it today, or thousands of years ago, people will lie to your face (even of your face is separated by a continent, and several throusand years) for the sake of their Political, cultiral or religious agenda.
People back then where not better than today, they just didnt have twitter.
this is basically having the identity of a dynamic, complex character be reduced to nothing but a single, flat and static trait because that's all the fans saw in them.
It's also a nice reflection of how the real world victorian orientalists often treated the rest of the world, I like it.
@@arionerron4273 another moron doesn't care about the implications of this in lore terms what about the church of the broken god and sarkicism, 999, the library, or church of the second hytoth all gone because orientalism bad
No this what godless liberalism looks like they run pr for Satanic blood cults and they act they're the victims.
This one really missed the mark for me. Honestly it just feels like the author went what if I just made the whole thing the opposite of what is written.
This one is a really tragic SCP, because is a very reallistic one, in the sense that orientalism and other kinds of prejudices actually make huge damage to real cultures.
I wonder how this scenario would influence Sarkicism and through butterfly effect other elements of the setting.
There is ONE thing the (real) Daevite Empire did first: Making slavery horrible.
-> This by itself is important, but the impact it had over the rest of history would be greater (even if it was just a few years earlier than other country).
It wouldn't exist.
Ion was half-Daeva. Half human. Daevas are supernatural bull made by dear ol' Mr Bruce. Ion's mother doesn't exist. He doesn't exist. His religion doesn't exist.
You get the picture.
Thankfully, they just retconned it again. Apparently, all the things about the Daevite Empire are now true again, with a twist. Read the new 001 proposal?
I love the commentary of the SCP both in terms of the real world parallels and in universe. It’s nice to have an SCP ending with the hope that things get better
NO IT ISN LITERAL RAINBOWS AND SUNSHINE FROM HERE ON OUT, I MEAN NO SCARLET KING SERIOUSLY HOW IS THIS GOOD STORYTELLING IT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY THE FOUNDATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE SERIOUS
@@josephanfinson4954 My guy it’s not like this is a retcon or anything. The beauty of SCP is you can tell basically whatever story you want within the format. If this bothers you try not to pop a blood vessel over the concept of joke SCPs ;)
What're the odds I first come across this SCP only days before March 20, 2022?
I usually just listen to the audio of your videos while I’m at work but man I forget sometimes how great of a job you do with the artwork as well. It really creates a whole new experience as opposed to just listening to the audio. Thank you for putting so much time and effort into your content and making an escape for myself and others
"Please, do not let it happen again"
And somewhere in the SCP-Foundation i already hear "LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!"
Damnit, Janet I love you 💋💋💋
This is horrifying and beautiful.
Given current events, historical revisionists and conspiracy nuts, and how degrees of separation can skew our perception of reality. This is just brilliant.
"Don't force us back into the dark." was just a gut punch and a nice reference to scp-1000, scp-6666, and wormwood.
History is simply OUR UNDERSTANDING of what's come before us.
The most important part and that which does the distorting is us......
History is always a tale of two eras. The era being described by the records, and the era the records were taken in.
because of how this scp ends it's now my favorite cause the thought of the o5s realizing that they've been trolled and preparing for nothing is just hilarious
Not gonna lie...I don't really like this skip...it undoes so many of the other skips that I really liked. Luckily I can choose to just ignore this one due to how canon works in the SCP Universe.
I'm gonna have to put this in the alternate reality headcannon. I can't reconcile this with Tufto's proposal which I love too damn much, and it's lacking some of the elements I read the wiki for (I.e. horror). It was very enjoyable though and a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Eh, seems like a weak take on a "Hah! Fooled you!" alternative. The Daevites are a very interesting faction of the SCP universe...this feels, tepid at best.
@@Seldonlair Agreed 👍
@IA_Seldon I see what you mean. It does feel like the story was written backwards. A lot of thought was put into the destination, (which I enjoyed) but the journey there felt a bit haphazard.
I like to think that the old version was a older empire that probably fell and then came back but very weak and then connect it to this story of having it be that it was so weak that their slaves managed to take over the empire and wipe out the history
You have the best content for storytelling, bar none.
While I think the original Daevites are more fitting to the SCP universe, I like to think of this one as an odd yet funny "What if?" situation.
Same
Indeed. A nice modern Daevite country is fine,but we need that history. Seriously. The Scarlet King is too important.
@@alyseleem2692 also the Sarkites and by extension the Church of the Broken God
I mainly come here to listen to the disturbing stories that occur in the scp universe and how close utter annihilation is to becoming reality only to be stopped or halted by a few people who give it their all in the hopes that they can buy humanity 1 more day
But a story where some massive life altering entity was massively over exaggerated and its true history was hidden in the shadows only to be brought to light. That's pretty cool
NO IT IS LAME AND STUPID
@@josephanfinson4954 nah its based
As feelgood as this entry is, I’m so jaded by SCP articles that the entire time through the second article I was just thinking “so where’s the catch?”
The twist as a comment on western sensationalism of other cultures is so damn good. I love the Daevite empire, probably my fave thing from SCP canon but this is a worthy end.
I saw it more as a twist on postmodernism interpretation of history. Like the book by Howard Zinn 'a people's history of the United States'.
@@CountBlaah A valid take for sure
If you haven't checked out SCP-1851-EX, you should take a look at it. In a way I think 6140 continue the same theme of 1851-EX.
@@Jestersage Thanks for the tip!
I like this ending. History has shown that no empire lasts forever. A peaceful nation being born out of the death of a violent empire is poetic
Knocked it out of the park as always!
The Exploring Series always has:
Excellent choice of topic,
Fitting musical selection,
High quality artwork,
And of course; perfect vocal delivery.
Intern: uh sir, the Daevite empire has returned just as expected.
O5 Council: So? What of it?
Intern: Well…
I don't like this... it's sacrificing the entire lore of the Daevites, the Scarlet King, etc. to push a political message.
This would've hit a lot harder if they WERE anomalous, at least then there would be a dilemma rather than having a blatantly correct choice.
You spend 10+ years of your life doing mind numbing desk work, to the point that paper work and red tape haunt your nightmares more than any eldritch horror you've had the chance to learn about, then one day all your boss's boss's secret bosses start spewing all sorts of derogatory, culturally insensitive stereotypes about you and your peoples and now you've got to talk them down from dropping a hammer of inconceivable size upon your country.
Have to say, they handled it better than I probably would have.
Lovely to see another timely upload from my favorite internet voice, exploring my favorite obscure subject matter
"The White Man's Burden" messes it up for everyone yet again.
This is such a thoughtful and improving addition to SCP-140
NO IT IS SHITTING ON EVERYTHING FOR PREACHY RAINBOWS AND SUNSHINE
@@josephanfinson4954 nope
Wrong it is Marxist revisionist trash. Degenerate woke hippies always run pr and interference for sacrifical blood cults under the delusions that tolerance is a virtue.
i wonder if daevastan had to worry about any 'little green men' crossing their borders in this timeline
I don't get your comment. Is it a reference to something?
Well, that certainly was an interesting take. Thought for sure it was gonna be full blown warfare.
I was hoping for that.
@@flaviomadeiramirandafilho3469 yeah me too but on the other hand getting what you wanted/expected can be really boring too.
I remember listening to your video on SCP 140 when walking to class two years ago, now I’m listening to this one while getting ready for work. Thanks for all the great content you’ve given us over the years.
"Wait... They are not evil, anomalous, bloodthirsty freaks!?" - O5 council about Daevastan when it manifested.
While hovering over the "PRESS TO ANNIHILATE ALL" button
I came for an anomalous world war, but this is a welcome addition.
My only question is what happened to the people already living in that area?
Loved this entry! It’s spin on the Daevites is both a great commentary on how messed up Orientalism was and how it can (here, quite literally) bleed into the modern day, and a great potential conflict for the SCP Foundation in their efforts to preserve "normalcy," too!
There’s needs to be a full on tale where the daevite empire returns in full force and a full on war breaks out between the foundation and other GOIs that the foundation has asked them to help out before. Maybe the chaos insurgency can put their differences down with the goc and the foundation to fight the daevite empire in its full force. That has to be the most epic tale I ever came up with.