@@PureSparkles22 like who?? A mainstream stars, not a hip hop stars? Who main act today has slutshaming and publicly humiliated his 19 yo ex girlfriend?
The way he framed Britney Spears as a cheater after cheating first, thus hyping up his own career by exploiting Britney's fame... he's basically the male Selena Gomez.
I also hate that Britney felt that way too in a way. She punished herself but luckily called it out in her book. She released Everytime which played into the narrative.
I think Justin Timberlake felt pressure to shed the image he had with NSYNC because the toxic male misogynist culture of the time. I remember seeing a cover of Justin Timberlake on a magazine that said "Can we forgive Justin for all the sissy music? At least he got into Britney's pants!"-Details Magazine. NSYNC & Backstreet Boys were basically treated with the same hatred that young Justin Bieber was. The same way Justin Bieber acted out after that mocking of his masculinity, I feel as though Timberlake did the same to be taken more seriously after making music for teenage girls. THIS DOES NOT JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS, however I do think it provides some cultural context for what his motivations may have been. After all, image is everything in Hollywood and he probably wanted to be seen as a bad boy instead of a bitch. Men suffer from toxic masculinity too.
To be honest I don't think Justin ever knew what lane he fell into because he would go from having a defined tone to just looking plain awkward. So despite what he's been called, he pretty much said FU to all of that without saying FU.....Overall I just think Timberlake is a lost little brother who doesn't seem to know who he is anymore and need someone to help him mold him image further. What he lacks is what artists like Miley Cyrus gained which is to be seen as she wants to be....
Exactly. Everyone loves to reduce everything to black&white/good vs evil. But that’s not how anything works. Let’s focus on how shitty and misogynistic our culture was and still is. Not take all of that out on this one random man that probably didn’t think he was doing anything wrong and is trying to deal with it now
People forget how obscenely hypermasculine the culture was in the 2000's. This was an era where it was not socially acceptable for men to engage with pop music. You were expected to listen strictly to rock or rap, and if you were caught listening to a female artist, you were assumed to be gay and shamed for it. I'm not saying the shit Justin did was good, but this constant need to hold people's actions from 20+ years ago to the standards of today is ridiculous. Existing as a man who made pop music already put a target on his back and he was expected to live up to the incredibly misogynistic, irresponsible, and downright brainless standards of socially acceptable male behavior. I remember EVERYBODY used to call him gay because there's no way a dude could be in a boy band singing pop songs and genuinely like women. He had his own demons too, and while his behavior wasn't good, we really don't need to keep harping on it over and over again just to win some easy brownie points online
One Direction also had a young teenage girl fanbase and were scrutinized the same as JB and NSYNC and they never once made fun of their audience or try to get rid of them, even after their breakup, individually, they all hold a female audience and have never been ashamed of it. 5 Seconds of Summer, another boyband who also came out at the same time, have made comments of wanting “another fanbase”. As a fan of both of them it’s sad to see 5SOS make their audience less just because they are girls and I’m forever a 1D stan for them appreciating their fans regardless of their gender. Even nowadays, any artist with a teenage girl fanbase are made fun off even discredit for it. Of course, it was a lot worse then, mostly because the tabloids got away with soooo much more but still, the way the artist responds says a lot of how misogynist they are.
@FedericoCastro-wm8cl comparing artists current work to their previous work just restricts them, they're not gonna keep reinventing the wheel... and there are songs that sound like average pop music on EITIW but what lovers do and the first half of technicolor are definitely r&b
Justin is a walking contradiction. If he were a woman, his career would have tanked long ago. He takes no accountability for the messes he's been apart of.
@@JpragerI mean Taylor has receive some backlash for her uninspiring album and everyone hates Selena since October of 2023 and she hasn’t had a solo hit since 2019. I say this as someone who enjoys Taylor’s music and is a huge Selena fan
@@cgomez5455 I mean Taylor has back peddled on some of her OG lyrics. But the sentiment remains there. She was one to put Joe Jonas and John Mayer on blast too
I just have to say that Kevin Federline deserves just as much smoke as Timberlake. Federline is more to cause for Britney's breakdown and then conservatorship than anyone else.
I cannot stand K-Flop, but as a Britney fan I must say that she still chose to marry him even though it was revealed months ahead that he had a girlfriend and two kids already. And sadly she's repeating her own history: her current fling has *9* kids, plus a criminal/drug record. 😢 At least the guys she dated during her conservatorship had decent careers.
I feel like society and double standards regarding of whats ok for women and men to do are more to blame for all the things that happened with Janet and Britney, however, the fact that Justin didnt say anything to defend his peers until they told him to years later says a lot about his character, a sexist society is to blame, but the people not standing up for whats right are also to blame
Listen carefully to the bridge of Britney’s “Everytime” (2003), where she apologizes, implicitly to JT💘, for her infidelity that ended their relationship in 2002, which she explicitly confirms herself, 21 years later, in her “Woman In Me” (2023) memoir. 🙄
Ms BS has always been full of BS: she finally admitted, 21-years afterward, that she cheated on JT💘, while she had previously denied it. So of course Ms BS has to make up BS about that she wasn't the first infidel. 🙄 JT's💘 song, "Cry Me A River (2002) already spelled-out her infidelity, which she denied for 21 years, even though everyone already knew that she was the initial infidel. She sort of admits it in the bridge of her "Everytime" (2003). Of course, her friends who she told were also friends with JT💘, and they all told him that she had cheated. 🙄
It was always crazy to me that the same Superbowl that had all kinds of ED med and beer ads, scantily clad cheerleaders and and racy burger and Go Daddy commercials just couldn't handle a flash of partially-covered nipple! I don't think Justin could have prevented the backlash by saying something, but it would have gone a long way if he had questioned the fact that Janet was pretty much the only one being roasted! He just skated off, and that is the kind of thing people attribute to poor character. Just like JLo's malfeasance came to light, his has, too.
Is Justin the only villain or even problem when it comes to Britney? No. However he knew that saying he took her virginity and basically alluding to the fact she’s not really the good girl like he was so innocent is where he becomes the problem. Then the Janet thing and him keeping quiet while making jokes about it knowing she was getting so much flack for it is also dumb. It may not be totally okay but we can’t keep acting like Justin isn’t getting the backlash he would’ve gotten if the early 00’s wasn’t so harsh to women. He’s just getting it all at once so it’s a lot.
About the Janet-Justin situation, it didn't affect just Janet, but it affected JC Chasez too. JC was set to perform at NFL's Pro Bowl, but his performance was canceled due to Justin's incident. JC barely got promo from Jive (their record label) and his album was set to debut a few weeks after that.
Justin could've done more for Janet, yes (although Janet did tell Justin to not say anything after the malfunction happened). However, people forget that Les Moonves, the CBS director of that time, forced Janet to publicly apologize and was the main reason she was blacklisted from pretty much everywhere.
People including NSYNC forget how he played them when they were under the impression they were going to record a 4th album and in an interview after blamed the breakup in he being more serious about the music.
It was already known that JT was going solo before a 4th album was planned and plus it was ALWAYS the impression that JT and Chasez were losing interest in Nsync
@@KaiserAllen all the guys thought he was coming back to the group. they've said so themselves. Justin even says he would in the justified thank you notes.
Their old label Jive records. Justin did the R&B thing while JC wanted to experiment. Jive saw Justin as more profitable and unfortunately JC took the L. He deserved so much better.
Justin was the lead singer so he was always going to be "the chosen one". Same thing as Destiny's Child, neither Kelly or Michelle were ever going to be as successful solo as Beyoncè, and that's ok.
this echoes a lot of my thoughts on the situation. people are using him as a scapegoat to pile on because they fell victim to the misogynist media when they were kids/teenagers and are using him to overcompensate for that.
@@pink-slytherinplease tell me, in detail, where I made him out to be a “bad person” because what I said was some artist don’t make the generational jump. If you don’t know what that means, basing off the response & tone of your comment, means when an artist is not nearly as popular as they once were or have relevancy with the next generations. In his case, Gen-z & Gen-alpha. I can sit here & have you entertain me with your response & I can get a good chuckle at reading your response but the fact is, JT has not had the same popularity as he did in the 2000s. he had a brief career high with the “20/20 Experience”, “Trolls” gave him the “Youth Group Dad” vibe, his Halftime Show was considered “boring” and “uneventful” by most critics and the general public, “Man of the Woods” was a flop both commercially and critically and the TikTok generation is meming the living crap out of him. I didn’t say anything any about his controversies with Brittany or Janet but they didn’t help. So once again, please go through my comment & pinpoint the phrases and include the grammatical definitions as to where I made him out to be a “murderer”. Please include context, references and citations & please and have it back to me by tomorrow since I clearly made it SOOOOO easy for you to make that assumption.
Justin Timberlake used to the breakup to vilify Britney and to become more famous. When him and Britney were together she was the more famous one and when he went solo his first single flopped and so he used Cry Me A River to villainize her. Britney didn’t benefit from this at all look at the interviews around the time, Justin was being treated like a wounded puppy and Britney was being painted as a cheater. Even when Britney got married he still proceeded to make jokes at her expense and subliminally trash her every chance he got. He’s guilty as hell and don’t even get me started on Janet Jackson
Put him self in the crosshair. I dont feel sorry for him. Does that take away from his talent? Nope. Got his first 2 solo albums with Timberland and Pharrell. But he willingly participated in piling on Janet and Brittney. So, he gets what he deserves.
Beyoncé is the anomaly in the music industry… Justin is pretty on track on how a pop artist fades. Never leaves when they “should” and keeps trying to stay cool… Madonna. Beyoncé play her cards right by stay pretty conservative for pop artist in the beginning of her career and become more edgier as she gets farther into her career to stay fresh. Long game…which she mentioned many times that she was here to stay.
This is the first time I'm seeing someone's opinion that mirrors mine. I've always been a Justin fan. Yes he's problematic (who isn't) but he's also an easy scapegoat. The real villains are the super wealthy men behind the scenes that blackballed Janet and of course Britney s dad too.
I’d love your take on artists from the 90s and 00s and see who is smoothly transitioning into legacy status and who from the younger generation would follow that. With Jlo and Justin being close but not able to grasp it it would be a cool video to see! Love your videos!
I feel like musically people started taking Timberlake serious with futuresex/love sound. What purpose was for Bieber is what futuresex/love sound was for Timberlake. He did have huge success with *NSYNC and his debut solo album but he didn’t come into his own until his sophomore album. After the halftime he disappeared from the spotlight for two years, came back with a new sound, and acknowledged some of his faults during nipplegate. With 20/20 he was able to establish as a legend. What America idiot was for Green Day is what the 20/20 experience was for Timberlake.
Justin was taken seriously with his debut. He earned a lot of credibility with that introduction. FS/LS took things to a whole new level, but he was already respected as an artist.
Hey Honest, have you thought of doing a nice tribute to underrrated jazz vocalists of the golden era of jazz (esther phillips, lena horne, ethel waters, bessie smith, mildred bailey, billie holiday, sara vaughan, ella Fitzgerald, helen forrest, sara martin)?
No one's care about Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys or any late 90s early 2000s pop stars/groups in a few years either. What's your point? The really reason Britney Spears is still relevant because of the whole conservativship thing and her book.
I remember as a kid watching that super bowl performance never understood what the big deal was i remember saying to my dad " whats the problem its a titty " 😂 and as i got older and did more research into what happen i completely lost all respect for justin and he only apologized years later
I think the hate towards him, is way overblown. Yes, he might have acted carelessly when he was younger, but does that make him a monster? People need to chill, he’s not done anything major, in my opinion. Janet and Britney have moved on, they’re fine. I am enjoying his latest album, he still had plenty of fans out there.
I really agree with your take about Justin's reaction to the Superbowl controversy. I have a feeling him and his team were pressured to respond they way he did so as to avoid his own blacklisting, or something to that effect. But I totally understand Janet's treatment by the media was horrible. It totally derailed a legend's career but, sadly, that's how it was back then
@@pink-slytherin hahaha you're so pathetic , talking shit without even know my music taste , anyway depends on the sales and the chart his album does "fail"
@@pink-slytherin You fail so bad for not allowing others to have an opinion. If you want to continue supporting this horrible person feel free. Leave others alone.
i cannot in my right mind cancel JT for all these nuanced situations when so many celebs are literal predators. i guaruntee half off y'all still support nicki minaj even after all she"s done, which was thousands of times worse than any of jt's crmes....
@@kimendable name one thing he did then… u cant really without including a bunch of random context. Therefor, its nuanced, he is not a predator, a rapist, he isnt violent, he’s not a pedo, not racist… people are having to twist words to make him look bad lmfao
@@Futurebound_jpg ok but no one said he is? im referring more to the Britney thing. no medical care in that situation is literally life threatening & illlegal
Have you ever thought that people can hate on Nicki but also Justin? Like this isn’t a black and white situation like I just hate any celebrity that supports shitty things or has a bad attitude
"Oh no, not the consequences of my actions, coming back to haunt me twenty years into my successful career?" JT can be better, but never does anything to be better. Kinda self-serving, no?
Both Britney and him are going to be irrelevant 90s stars in a few years. Both are terrible human beings. The only reason Britney Spears is relevant because if the whole conservativeship and her book. Both of their fandoms acting like idiots not seeing that both artists have issues. Celebrity stan culture is hilarious. Y'all are giving them both unnecessary attention
actually, when britney was performing evertime on ABS Special 2003 in the zone, she said that she wrote it (everytime) two years ago in germany - which was in 2001, so it was probably about the baby she had to ab@@t but also about the relationship between britney and justin.
Justin Timberlake is guilty of being mediocre in hindsight - he’s not exactly a predator and I don’t think any of this stuff is as relevant as the fact that Justin is too told to have no identity or niche as an artist. He can sing OK, but he can’t really blow. He can move, but he’s not a legendary dancer, he’s written some songs but none are memorable… his music releases are always a safe, palatable version of whatever is trending at the time.
Exactly, the Neptunes’ (Pharrell & Chad Hugo) songs on Justified were originally made for MJ’s Invincible and Futuresex had some of Timbaland’s and Danja’s most experimental production. I always think MJ, Usher, Babyface, Miguel, Weekend, Joe, Chris Brown, Ginuwine,etc could’ve gotten the same songs and put their own sauce on them (maybe making them better).
Think it goes to show that men in the music industry can still keep going on, even when their new music is not good... By the looks of his new tour, seems like he can still sell shows, and that the general public will still keep supporting him
I’ve been watching your videos for a while, Honest, and I have a bit of feedback. You are creating video essays and you’re picking interesting topics, but way you bring your videos to a conclusion is weaker than the rest of the video. In a lot of these videos, actually, it seems like there’s an abrupt stop instead of a final point oran overarching message. If there isn’t a strong opinion or view or vision of the circumstance, that’s being built as a result of the details that you’re discussing, you’re not doing anything more than reading a Wikipedia page.
STOP ALL THE HATES PEOPLE. THIS TH-camR IS JUST EXPRESSING HIS VIEWS ON ABOUT THE HATE THAT JT IS GETTING ON. HE IS NOT HATING ON JT!! STOP IT!! I AM JUST ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED AT ALL OF PEOPLE THAT KEPT HATING ON JT. I AM BLAMING WOKE, FEMINISM AND CANCEL CULTURE FOR THIS!!!
And yes hahaha laugh at me! I am just sick and tired all these hates against Justin Timberlake. I've get harrassed and bullied here just because I listen to his music and defend him. People just need to leave JT alone and stop harrassing me with your hates against JT😡
I’ve never clicked on one of your vids so fast. 😂 As usual, you’re spot on and nuanced. Listen, no Timberlake fan here, JC was my boo back in the day but Justin is getting quite a lot of flack I’m not sure he should and most of it is ages old drama between him and a teenage girlfriend. Continuing to drag Justin for what was done to Janet only reduces Janet to that moment in time. It’s not fair to either of them. Also, Britney is being infantilized to an extreme extent. She had autonomy, a lot of it, before the conservatorship and made LOTS of bad choices that harmed her career. She continues to today. Look at her current man! I don’t think Justin is producing very good music right now and he certainly isn’t meeting the moment but does he deserve to be a punching bag for being and doing what every other man did at the time? Not sure.
I think the actual singer of the last few bars of “Cry Me a River” coming forward was way more damning than any of the 30 year old relationship drama. He did make some awfully shitty moves, but he was also in his 20s and knew saying something in that culture would sabotage his career. I can’t tell you how many shitty things I probably did in my 20s with no gained knowledge, and to have a national spotlight on him while doing it?
Agree. Justin does deserve criticism, but people focus too much on him and not on people like Les Moonves, the CBS director that forced Janet to issue a public apology and pretty much moved the strings to cause Jackson's career's downfall.
He is currently very overhated, people mention him in the same sentence as actual abusers like Chris Brown. That is just very unfair, though he is definitely not perfect, he is far from the devil people make him out to be. It is so ironic that it is Britney stans who are trying to cancel him the most, when Britney arguably did much worse things way more deserving of cancellation (verbal and physical child abuse, allegedly beating up her ex-husband, constantly rude to fast food and hotel employees.)
@rainbowerabymariah How do you know that she has always been kind to people? You don't know her either. Just a couple of days ago, she had a huge fight in a hotel with her new boyfriend and she terrorized the hotel staff. Start holding this grown woman accountable. There is no excuse to treat other people this way.
@@hayal1612 of course i don't personally know her, but in her +20 years of career i saw a lot of people who met her saying she's one of the most down to earth and sweetest celebrities so... but i agree she had a meltdown in this hotel. i don't know if you read her book, you'd see everything that led her to this kind of behaviour, i'm not saying everything is justified but it explains a lot. 😊
@@rainbowerabymariah I absolutely sympathize with the abuse she has been put through, and the way her family used her for money is inexcusable. But I’ll be honest, I don’t really trust that her book tells the whole truth. Many people have come out about inconsistencies in her story. Such as Ginuwine saying that the Justin ‘Fo Shiz’ incident did not really happen. Or backup dancers confirming that Britney’s affair with Wade was more than just a kiss. Or Britney saying that the VMA kiss with Madonna was not planned, when there are rehearsal videos of them doing the kiss. I don’t think Britney is intentionally lying, but it is abundantly clear that her memoir is not the full truth. I do 100% believe that she has been put through abuse, but at a certain point she has to take accountability for the abuse she puts others through too (first and foremost her kids). At this point she’s in her 40s and still not taking any steps to correct her own wrongdoings, so I’m kind of done with the way we are expected to treat Britney with kid gloves. She’s an adult and she should start acting like one. (Sorry for the long ass Ted Talk 💀)
@@hayal1612 well, u've got a point I must admit ! britney is definitely not perfect (no one is actually) but I do believe this abuse left severe scars on her mind, and it has an impact on her way of thinking I guess 🤷♂️ idk I'm not a professional 😭
If you watched the Superbowl documentary....Justin arrived at airport mere 20 minutes before half time show started. Had a Police escort so he would get there on time, was pulled in by Janet and the stylist minutes before....no one know what was discussed but them. You want to blame someone for Janet? Look up LES MOONVES. He was the head of CBS at the tine, very powerful. He requested an in person apology from both of them. Justin went and kissed the ring as they say. Janet did not. Should she have to? maybe not....but then LES made it his personal mission to ruin her.
Well, this has been talked about a million times. He even acknowledged his wrongdoings. It's better for him to acknowledge his wrongs than to never do it. However, are we always going hound Justin over BS that has happened well over 20 years ago? Especially when none of us was there to know the truth? The issue with Britney is her mental illness. How much do we know is the truth and is not? Since her conservatorship ended, she knows she has so much power to say and do what she wants. Knowing her fans will continue to support her. While Justin has been moving forward with his life and career. Yet, she continues to have these mental issues. A one year failed marriage, drama after drama and now she's dating a convicted felon who has multiple kids. And as for Janet Jackson, it upsets me that he did waited years to defend her. Especially given how she's a female and how she's a black artist. The same black artist who he looked up to. As well as many others. However, when will the public and media stop acting like Britney is always a victim? When will it be time for her to take accountability for her actions? All those erotic videos/posts on Instagram. Are we supposed to pretend that everything with her is normal? Fans will ignore it until some serious mess happens to her.
I agree, at this point I really have no idea what people want from Just Timberlake, the dude apologized multiple times yet people keep bringing up the same thing. It seems like people are just mad that he is the only one who moved on with his life and career. Janet and Britney both let one incident and a lot of issues in their personal lives ruin their careers and for some reason people want that to be Justin's fault... you are right it's been 20 years people need to let it go and I feel that in all fairness Janet and Britney would have done the same thing to Justin, it's called show business lol.
@chillyman7340 , exactly. Who am I to get mad at Justin for something he did or didn't do 20 years ago? Britney is holding a grudge. And Janet just wanted an apology. He apologized to Janet and they made amends. But Britney is a different story. She seriously needs help and to move on. And I think she has issues with Christina Aguilera, not just because of her and Justin's magazine cover. But the fact that Christina seems to live a better life than hers.
It doesn’t take away that he acknowledged his wrongdoings. However he still was sneaky and tried to make Britney and Janet the blame. He got away with it. It took him YEARS LATER to apologize. Let’s not forget that Britney stayed quiet about things. She’s been through so much, and has every right to write the truth in her book.
@@otashu26 You make a good point but you can't expect Justin to apologize every time people make a post, throw shade, mention or write books about him, people need to move on, it's been almost 20 years now.
britney also hasnt said anything incriminating about JT at all. people are just misconstruing her words! she herself doesnt blame him for anything and wishes him the best in her book.... she just wrote about a difficult moment in her life that involved him and people took it and ran with it
In my opinion none of this seems bad enough to the point where I’d consider him to be a terrible person. These seem more like mistakes than anything else. Although I really don’t care at all about him cheating on Brittany or her cheating on him.
I hate what Britney's family did to her. I think they should be in jail for life. But I also hate how she tends to lie, downplays, makes passive-aggressive comments and every time gets away with it. She's always a victim (except for what these monsters did to her, of course). Come on. Will anybody keep her accountable? It also doesn't make sense to blame someone like her teenage boyfriend, who was not even in her life for 20 fk years, for her choices as an adult. I'm not a fan of Justin, but after learning what she did, what caused the whole cry me a river drama, which was a complete slap in the face from her side (making out for months with his best friend at the time, which was confirmed several times in detail by the second choreographer of Justin's tour), I totally understand his "I want to apologies to absolutely fcking nobody" type of pettiness against her, he was hurt. And I hate how she is downplaying what she did back then.
If you ask me Justin Timberlake is 50% to blame for the damage done to Brittney Spears because of all he's has/hasn't done to her physically, mentally, and emotionally while the public is also 50% to blame for how they reacted. But when it comes to Janet Jackson he's 1% at most and the other 99% is on the public. It was a total accident that occured and he didn't mean to expose her breast on live TV. He just ripped her shirt to hard, it's as simple as that. However he definitely should have stuck up for Janet Jackson more, especially if the rumors were true and they were dating.
As a fan of Timberlake doing the justified era I never paid attention to all the tabloids media. I do understand some people eat that trash up, but it wasn’t for me. he had a lot going for him beside his break up with Britney. It may have given him a boost but not as much as Britney stans think it did. In fact his relationship and break up with Britney played a small part of his success. A relationship can only get you so far.
Since when is having blond-dyed curly hair and being part of a pop boy band is considered acting 'black'? Also, there's not such a thing as 'acting white' or 'acting black'. People should be able to freely choose what they want to wear or who they want to hang out with. Justin may have many faults, but 'acting black' is not one of them.
@@Jfray252 they’re just saying he used black culture and hip hop to further his career and to be taken more seriously in the industry as his reputation of being in *NSYNC made him seem like a soft boy at the time. He definitely tried to “be black” whether you want to admit it or not, it’s out there and it’s public. Britney even exposed him and his band mates as wanting to be more black which is just hilarious
@@Jfray252Acting a color isn't a thing, but cultural appropriation is and it's definitely clips of him doing just that. He was definitely trying to be as black as he could, with how he was acting and dressing. Everyone was confused because he didn't act like that or dress the same when he wasn't "performing".
He has done some very bad things such as with Britney and Justin, and also some other stuff that I forgot about, but people keep bringing it up. Though people have made him out to be Satan himself.
He proudly painted Britney as the villain for years & quickly threw Janet under the bus. While the 2000's would have been hard on Britney & Janet both regardless, Justin's involvement made things much worse for them. Let's not forget that he was the biggest culture vulture for the longest time. Riding the coattails off of other Black artists as well as Black culture in general, without ever doing anything to give back to the community that he profited off of. Of course, there's also the fact that he's a terrible husband who has humiliated his wife multiple times. I know that when you're in love, it's not easy to just up & leave someone. Even if the relationship is horrible. But, hopefully Jessica will eventually find the strength to move on from him. However, I do agree that Kevin Federline has done far worse to Britney. I'm also glad that she kicked Sam Asghari to the curb! I really tried to like him, but there were always too many red flags when it came to him.
Yet you have other artists commiting domestic abuse, human trafficking, grooming minors, etc. Let's pretend Justin is the worst of the worst for being a scumbag and a narcissist.
He’s always been that character in the industry that people say “yes, he’s a bad person, but the music is so good!!” Or “yes, he’s a classic narcissist, but his live shows are amazing!!” He always wanted to be the main character - watch any interview with him and Jessica and he always manages to steal the spotlight and make it all about him 😳
'Too bad' his world tour is selling out, he did one of the most popular and AMAZING Tiny Desk concerts, and his latest album is absolutely fire, despite what people say, they CLEARLY haven't listened to it. He is NOT cancelled by many, many, many people and doesn't deserve to be cancelled at all for things that supposedly happened 20 years ago. The hate is so pathetic and sad. Just move on, like normal people do.
Well, he is still touring the world, selling out arena's and very clearly still isn't cancelled, considering the reviews of those concerts. He made a mistake, I'm sure Britney fans know exactly how it feels, since she made quite a few herself, involving law enforcement.
Pretty sure it was a combination of events.. The main one being he's old news.. Every breakout star loses steam..while Britney and Janet may factor in.. Man In The Woods was the start of his decline.. Aging boy band star.. Typical scenario..the Superbowl stunt was an absolute terrible idea.. Janet did not need such a juvenile move, so she's as responsible for thinking it was necessary..even if it didn't malfunction, it would have added nothing to that set..
This is all a part of the crooked music industry! The color RED alone, says it all. Humiliation is a part of the game to get into the next level of crookedness.
@@mariandown2327does it really matter? britney is self destructing because of situations outside of justin and janet and him are friends and she’s having a great time touring. nothing justin timberlake may have done 20 years ago is affecting these ladies in anyway way currently, so why do you care?
@@kamfrusciante Yes it does matter. What he did was wrong and he got away with it. He deserves to be called out for it. We don’t know what he’s actually like person. 😂
I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again because it is important: Britney is a far more problematic person than JT. In 2008 she locked 1 year old Jayden (her son) in the bathroom with her WITH A KNIFE, not allowing him to leave, all while threatening to kill herself. The police had to get involved and after a three hour long standoff, they were finally able to get them out and she was carried out on a stretcher and put in psychiatric hold. To this day she still emotionally abuses her sons and sends her instagram fans after them so they will be attacked. No wonder they don’t want to be around her. She drove around with her sons on her lap when they were babies without any regards for their safety. This happened multiple times and not just when she was being followed by paparazzi. She is consistently rude to people (lashing out at Jack in a box employee who tried to comfort her, bullying Christina Aguilera and calling her backup dancers fat, starting a one sided beef with Selena Gomez.) She has even been accused by Sam Asghari for physically abusing him and hitting him in his sleep. There are literally pictures of him with a black eye. In 2010 she even had a s€xua| harassment lawsuit filed against her by her bodyguard which had to be settled in court, but of course people turned a blind eye to it because she’s an attractive woman. Worst one in my opinion: When Sean and Jayden were just 6 and 5, she deliberately fed them crab when she knew they were severely allergic to seafood. When the children started vomiting, she refused any medical attention and told staff to "mind their business." She would not accept any help. Those children could have died. That is child abuse. Nobody should support this woman. I’m not calling JT perfect at all and people have the right to talk about him because he has made mistakes, but Britney has done things way far far worse. Yet constantly her stans will look the other way and make her out to be the victim every single time, when she has also been the abuser multiple times. If you don’t support JT because you think he is problematic, but you do support Britney you are a massive hypocrite. If you cancel JT then cancel Britney too.
THANK YOU! I am a HUGE JT stan but does that mean i condone his past actions? NO!! I still like him a lot and i think hes gotten way better but that doesnt mean that what i think he did was right when he was building his career. But on that same token, people need to hold Britney just as accountable as Justin, because they've both equally done problematic things.
Stop bringing up that happened over 20yrs years ago. Justin Timberlake has moved on and not canceled. He is selling out shows and adding more concerts dates. Do your research Janet Jackson documentary said that she and Justin Timberlake are very good friends Move on
i agree. i think ppl want a person to blame and point at and blame for britney and janet’s issues.. but i think he is getting so much backlash for no reason
I'm more happy to see people no longer liking this man. Like even as a child growing up I never liked him and then as I got older as a teenager and I would look into the shit that he would do and was said about him the more I really couldn't stand him. Like I feel like the biggest red flag should have been when he was in his boy band and he literally had his security guard Yankee what 15 year old girl I believe it was into the hotel and bring her to his room so that he could berate and yell at her because she told him she thought JC was cuter. There were literal witnesses who watched that happen as he had his huge ass bodyguard manhandle a child kidnap them so he can yell at them because he wasn't their faith because she like many others there were yelling and asking the boys for pictures or tell them how much they like them and he was ignoring the fans. Not to mention every relationship he's been in he feels like it was always a power play whether you're talking about when he was dating Britney or Cameron clearly he couldn't stand dating those women because they were more famous than he was. His current wife I feel bad for her because there were always talks about how he was constantly cheating on her he was always breaking up with her he didn't really like her there was the several times he was seen with different models or people that he was working with on movies and stuff before they even got married. Then when they do get married he still is allegedlycheating on her and it's crazy because they have it in their prenup apparently that every time he cheats he has to pay her money and he doesn't care matter of fact even when you look at their children both of their kids were born within 8 months after he was caught in a cheating scandal meaning that he either found out and his wife was pregnant and then chose to go out and cheat on her or she and him did not know that she was pregnant yet yet something in him made him want to go out and cheat on her. Watching any interview or red carpet that he has done with his wife and the way he would absolutely talk over that woman the freaking interviewers will be talking to her about her career or her life and he will just randomly insert himself because he needs to be the center of attention. The things he did to Brittany and then tried to paint her out to be the bad guy was absolutely horrible. The fact he was well aware of the Janet Jackson and his performance and the stunt they were going to pull then to sit there turn around and act like he had nothing to do with it when he saw the backlash and throw that woman under the bus which basically threw her career off track because it pissed off people who were able to take her music off of MTV VH1 bet and all these other places and she never recovered from that truly. All the way to the fact that people forget that he was one of the original white boys / white artist who sat there and pretended to be Urban / black. I remember when he had that weird-ass blackcent I remember when he constantly sat there and tried to surround himself with black artists or people who are affiliated with them I remember when he sat there and went through his whole r&b era and for whatever reason he couldn't just be a white boy who did r&b because trust me they fucking existed even back in the eighties and nineties my afro-colombian grandmother was a fan of quite a few white men who did r&b and soul music on top of the black men who did it but no he had to sit there and pretend or try to insert himself into the culture and it was really weird. That man is a mediocre white boy at best a overly clingy attention whore at worst.
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Justin Timberlake's career is the poster child of double standards...for the 90s..
And the infuriating thing is that I see a lot of people defending him today.
And 2000’s
@@zosiexofficial they have to defend him from feminist bullies like you!!! Leave JT alone you creep!!
There's still other famous male stars right now getting away with what Justin did in the 2000's
@@PureSparkles22 like who?? A mainstream stars, not a hip hop stars? Who main act today has slutshaming and publicly humiliated his 19 yo ex girlfriend?
The way he framed Britney Spears as a cheater after cheating first, thus hyping up his own career by exploiting Britney's fame... he's basically the male Selena Gomez.
🤣🤣 Selena catching strays
Male Selena Gomez: disabled his account for 1 day and left the chat
I also hate that Britney felt that way too in a way. She punished herself but luckily called it out in her book. She released Everytime which played into the narrative.
Selena’s never been alleged to cheat on Bieber. Timberlake put Britney through an abortion and publicly humiliated Janet, how tf is Selena comparable?
Sadly, men do this a lot. Happened to me 😅
I think Justin Timberlake felt pressure to shed the image he had with NSYNC because the toxic male misogynist culture of the time. I remember seeing a cover of Justin Timberlake on a magazine that said "Can we forgive Justin for all the sissy music? At least he got into Britney's pants!"-Details Magazine. NSYNC & Backstreet Boys were basically treated with the same hatred that young Justin Bieber was. The same way Justin Bieber acted out after that mocking of his masculinity, I feel as though Timberlake did the same to be taken more seriously after making music for teenage girls. THIS DOES NOT JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS, however I do think it provides some cultural context for what his motivations may have been. After all, image is everything in Hollywood and he probably wanted to be seen as a bad boy instead of a bitch. Men suffer from toxic masculinity too.
To be honest I don't think Justin ever knew what lane he fell into because he would go from having a defined tone to just looking plain awkward. So despite what he's been called, he pretty much said FU to all of that without saying FU.....Overall I just think Timberlake is a lost little brother who doesn't seem to know who he is anymore and need someone to help him mold him image further. What he lacks is what artists like Miley Cyrus gained which is to be seen as she wants to be....
Exactly. Everyone loves to reduce everything to black&white/good vs evil. But that’s not how anything works. Let’s focus on how shitty and misogynistic our culture was and still is. Not take all of that out on this one random man that probably didn’t think he was doing anything wrong and is trying to deal with it now
People forget how obscenely hypermasculine the culture was in the 2000's. This was an era where it was not socially acceptable for men to engage with pop music. You were expected to listen strictly to rock or rap, and if you were caught listening to a female artist, you were assumed to be gay and shamed for it. I'm not saying the shit Justin did was good, but this constant need to hold people's actions from 20+ years ago to the standards of today is ridiculous. Existing as a man who made pop music already put a target on his back and he was expected to live up to the incredibly misogynistic, irresponsible, and downright brainless standards of socially acceptable male behavior. I remember EVERYBODY used to call him gay because there's no way a dude could be in a boy band singing pop songs and genuinely like women. He had his own demons too, and while his behavior wasn't good, we really don't need to keep harping on it over and over again just to win some easy brownie points online
@@cityboy2092 agreed!!!... look at some of the jokes people like Russel Brand would routinely make for a example of what the culture was like.
One Direction also had a young teenage girl fanbase and were scrutinized the same as JB and NSYNC and they never once made fun of their audience or try to get rid of them, even after their breakup, individually, they all hold a female audience and have never been ashamed of it. 5 Seconds of Summer, another boyband who also came out at the same time, have made comments of wanting “another fanbase”. As a fan of both of them it’s sad to see 5SOS make their audience less just because they are girls and I’m forever a 1D stan for them appreciating their fans regardless of their gender.
Even nowadays, any artist with a teenage girl fanbase are made fun off even discredit for it. Of course, it was a lot worse then, mostly because the tabloids got away with soooo much more but still, the way the artist responds says a lot of how misogynist they are.
Turns out what made him successful was Timbaland, controversy and throwing women under the bus not him.
timbaland was on his recent album
@FedericoCastro-wm8cl what lovers do and technicolor are some of jt and tim’s best work in years
@FedericoCastro-wm8cl comparing artists current work to their previous work just restricts them, they're not gonna keep reinventing the wheel... and there are songs that sound like average pop music on EITIW but what lovers do and the first half of technicolor are definitely r&b
Justin is a walking contradiction. If he were a woman, his career would have tanked long ago. He takes no accountability for the messes he's been apart of.
If Selena Gomez and Taylor can skim on by the whole thing is fair play
@@JpragerI mean Taylor has receive some backlash for her uninspiring album and everyone hates Selena since October of 2023 and she hasn’t had a solo hit since 2019. I say this as someone who enjoys Taylor’s music and is a huge Selena fan
@@cgomez5455 I mean Taylor has back peddled on some of her OG lyrics. But the sentiment remains there. She was one to put Joe Jonas and John Mayer on blast too
@@Jprager but she did receive backlash, the media slut shame her when the original songs came out
@@cgomez5455 what songs, please enlighten?
I just have to say that Kevin Federline deserves just as much smoke as Timberlake. Federline is more to cause for Britney's breakdown and then conservatorship than anyone else.
I cannot stand K-Flop, but as a Britney fan I must say that she still chose to marry him even though it was revealed months ahead that he had a girlfriend and two kids already.
And sadly she's repeating her own history: her current fling has *9* kids, plus a criminal/drug record. 😢
At least the guys she dated during her conservatorship had decent careers.
How guilty is he?………
VERY
Periodt.
Get a life hater. Oh and andrew garfield sucks so as spiderman! I hate spiderman
Period
He has stood on the shoulders of many women and kicked down on them. “What goes around comes around”
I feel like society and double standards regarding of whats ok for women and men to do are more to blame for all the things that happened with Janet and Britney, however, the fact that Justin didnt say anything to defend his peers until they told him to years later says a lot about his character, a sexist society is to blame, but the people not standing up for whats right are also to blame
Yes!!! like Justin is not to blame for society's misogyny but we can and should sure as hell hold him accountable for silently using it in his favor
bro needs to stick to Trolls....
Ngl though I do like some of the trolls songs 😂
I believe this was his downfall 😂
@@the-berries-and-cream-dude go to hell
Idk man... suit and tie kinda slaps
@@winifredeghrudje9427 FACTS LMAO
I understand that he was 21 when they broke up, but trust me… the things a 21 year old can do to you can traumatize you for life.
Listen carefully to the bridge of Britney’s “Everytime” (2003), where she apologizes, implicitly to JT💘, for her infidelity that ended their relationship in 2002, which she explicitly confirms herself, 21 years later, in her “Woman In Me” (2023) memoir. 🙄
@@StuartdeOcampo and she also confirms he cheated first, and multiple times. But he conveniently never said that.
Ms BS has always been full of BS: she finally admitted, 21-years afterward, that she cheated on JT💘, while she had previously denied it. So of course Ms BS has to make up BS about that she wasn't the first infidel. 🙄 JT's💘 song, "Cry Me A River (2002) already spelled-out her infidelity, which she denied for 21 years, even though everyone already knew that she was the initial infidel. She sort of admits it in the bridge of her "Everytime" (2003). Of course, her friends who she told were also friends with JT💘, and they all told him that she had cheated. 🙄
@@JCarlosCS1221
🙄Ms BS "confirms," with what? BS? 😅
@@StuartdeOcampo you believe what you want then. But she says that. He hasn't denied it.
It was always crazy to me that the same Superbowl that had all kinds of ED med and beer ads, scantily clad cheerleaders and and racy burger and Go Daddy commercials just couldn't handle a flash of partially-covered nipple! I don't think Justin could have prevented the backlash by saying something, but it would have gone a long way if he had questioned the fact that Janet was pretty much the only one being roasted! He just skated off, and that is the kind of thing people attribute to poor character. Just like JLo's malfeasance came to light, his has, too.
Is Justin the only villain or even problem when it comes to Britney? No. However he knew that saying he took her virginity and basically alluding to the fact she’s not really the good girl like he was so innocent is where he becomes the problem. Then the Janet thing and him keeping quiet while making jokes about it knowing she was getting so much flack for it is also dumb. It may not be totally okay but we can’t keep acting like Justin isn’t getting the backlash he would’ve gotten if the early 00’s wasn’t so harsh to women. He’s just getting it all at once so it’s a lot.
Janet did tell him to keep quiet after the Super Bowl tho
About the Janet-Justin situation, it didn't affect just Janet, but it affected JC Chasez too. JC was set to perform at NFL's Pro Bowl, but his performance was canceled due to Justin's incident. JC barely got promo from Jive (their record label) and his album was set to debut a few weeks after that.
Justin could've done more for Janet, yes (although Janet did tell Justin to not say anything after the malfunction happened).
However, people forget that Les Moonves, the CBS director of that time, forced Janet to publicly apologize and was the main reason she was blacklisted from pretty much everywhere.
People including NSYNC forget how he played them when they were under the impression they were going to record a 4th album and in an interview after blamed the breakup in he being more serious about the music.
Y'all just make things up now? The fantasy!
It was already known that JT was going solo before a 4th album was planned and plus it was ALWAYS the impression that JT and Chasez were losing interest in Nsync
And now he’s using them again to milk *NSYNC nostalgia
@@KaiserAllen all the guys thought he was coming back to the group. they've said so themselves. Justin even says he would in the justified thank you notes.
@@SM-zj2pspeople are allowed to go solo lol
I’m still wondering who in the industry picked Justin over JC chazes to be a star ?!!!
Their old label Jive records. Justin did the R&B thing while JC wanted to experiment. Jive saw Justin as more profitable and unfortunately JC took the L. He deserved so much better.
Justin was the lead singer so he was always going to be "the chosen one". Same thing as Destiny's Child, neither Kelly or Michelle were ever going to be as successful solo as Beyoncè, and that's ok.
Yeah. I found JC was more talented. Loved his song 'blowin me up with her love'
jc didn’t want to be a star please lay this to rest
It's not about talent it's about who is willing to sell their soul for fame and fortune! Justin was too desperate for it.
When you covering the Drake and Kendrick beef
For some of us, this is a welcome and refreshing break from the hot ass rap beef going on rn 😅
Not everyone wants to talk about them.
This is the first internet beef that I've heard from people at my school before anyone on youtube lmao
There’s nothing to cover other than the fact that the trauma of women is being used as entertainment by two men.
@@shizzlemywizzle1 wait bye this is so real, does kendrick actually beat his wife?
Honestly JC Chazes deserved the most sucessful career. Better voice, and wont throw women under the bus to further his music career
FACTS!! We slept on JC!
Absolutely!
Yesss I always loved JC Chazes' voice over Justin's
JC is gay tho lol
It will always hurt how he was sacrificed to push Justin's career. JC was and is THE MAN
this echoes a lot of my thoughts on the situation. people are using him as a scapegoat to pile on because they fell victim to the misogynist media when they were kids/teenagers and are using him to overcompensate for that.
He doesnt have range and people have moved on. But im glad someone admitted now, he needs NSYNC.
some artist just don’t make the generational jump, Clearly he didn’t
You guys are making me mad!! Stop treating Justin like he has murder someone for godsake!!
Leave JT alone feminist freak!!
@@pink-slytherinplease tell me, in detail, where I made him out to be a “bad person” because what I said was some artist don’t make the generational jump. If you don’t know what that means, basing off the response & tone of your comment, means when an artist is not nearly as popular as they once were or have relevancy with the next generations. In his case, Gen-z & Gen-alpha. I can sit here & have you entertain me with your response & I can get a good chuckle at reading your response but the fact is, JT has not had the same popularity as he did in the 2000s. he had a brief career high with the “20/20 Experience”, “Trolls” gave him the “Youth Group Dad” vibe, his Halftime Show was considered “boring” and “uneventful” by most critics and the general public, “Man of the Woods” was a flop both commercially and critically and the TikTok generation is meming the living crap out of him. I didn’t say anything any about his controversies with Brittany or Janet but they didn’t help. So once again, please go through my comment & pinpoint the phrases and include the grammatical definitions as to where I made him out to be a “murderer”. Please include context, references and citations & please and have it back to me by tomorrow since I clearly made it SOOOOO easy for you to make that assumption.
@@latinoburger123 “by tomorrow” 😂😂😂😂😂
@@pink-slytherin what?????
Justin Timberlake used to the breakup to vilify Britney and to become more famous. When him and Britney were together she was the more famous one and when he went solo his first single flopped and so he used Cry Me A River to villainize her. Britney didn’t benefit from this at all look at the interviews around the time, Justin was being treated like a wounded puppy and Britney was being painted as a cheater. Even when Britney got married he still proceeded to make jokes at her expense and subliminally trash her every chance he got. He’s guilty as hell and don’t even get me started on Janet Jackson
So he's a douchebag and a narcissist, not a villian
Shut the **** up hater.. go get a life and get some friends.
Justin is imo a weird position for me. Overrated but now over hated
The hate is perfectly balanced
Put him self in the crosshair. I dont feel sorry for him. Does that take away from his talent? Nope. Got his first 2 solo albums with Timberland and Pharrell.
But he willingly participated in piling on Janet and Brittney. So, he gets what he deserves.
Beyoncé is the anomaly in the music industry… Justin is pretty on track on how a pop artist fades. Never leaves when they “should” and keeps trying to stay cool… Madonna.
Beyoncé play her cards right by stay pretty conservative for pop artist in the beginning of her career and become more edgier as she gets farther into her career to stay fresh. Long game…which she mentioned many times that she was here to stay.
Madonna was relevant for decades!
This is the first time I'm seeing someone's opinion that mirrors mine. I've always been a Justin fan. Yes he's problematic (who isn't) but he's also an easy scapegoat. The real villains are the super wealthy men behind the scenes that blackballed Janet and of course Britney s dad too.
When he didn't stand up for Janet I threw my copy of Justified in the trash and never looked back
He did you nutter!! Janet told him not to because it wasnt his fault!!! Stop being such a feminist freak..
You also throw your Justified album? Pathetic
missing out on peak neptunes for a woman who dgaf anymore… L
@@pink-slytherin ??? we on the same side bubba
@@kamfrusciante i'm so sorry, I thought you were a hater.. as long as you're a JT fan you're good ✌️
I’d love your take on artists from the 90s and 00s and see who is smoothly transitioning into legacy status and who from the younger generation would follow that. With Jlo and Justin being close but not able to grasp it it would be a cool video to see! Love your videos!
I feel like musically people started taking Timberlake serious with futuresex/love sound. What purpose was for Bieber is what futuresex/love sound was for Timberlake. He did have huge success with *NSYNC and his debut solo album but he didn’t come into his own until his sophomore album. After the halftime he disappeared from the spotlight for two years, came back with a new sound, and acknowledged some of his faults during nipplegate. With 20/20 he was able to establish as a legend. What America idiot was for Green Day is what the 20/20 experience was for Timberlake.
Justin was taken seriously with his debut. He earned a lot of credibility with that introduction. FS/LS took things to a whole new level, but he was already respected as an artist.
Love it when you get controversial and objective.
Hey Honest, have you thought of doing a nice tribute to underrrated jazz vocalists of the golden era of jazz (esther phillips, lena horne, ethel waters, bessie smith, mildred bailey, billie holiday, sara vaughan, ella Fitzgerald, helen forrest, sara martin)?
This is not the channel for that
Agreed 100%!! Everything you said was perfect in describing the situation and where Timberlake’s career is at today.
No one cares about him anymore. He and j.lo should collab LOL
No one's care about Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys or any late 90s early 2000s pop stars/groups in a few years either. What's your point? The really reason Britney Spears is still relevant because of the whole conservativship thing and her book.
Love JT
Love from south africa 🇿🇦 ❤️
Great to see a fellow South African here 🇿🇦❤
What do you think of Normani's single?
overhated for sure. he's talented, his last 2 albums have sucked tho
I remember as a kid watching that super bowl performance never understood what the big deal was i remember saying to my dad " whats the problem its a titty " 😂 and as i got older and did more research into what happen i completely lost all respect for justin and he only apologized years later
I think the hate towards him, is way overblown. Yes, he might have acted carelessly when he was younger, but does that make him a monster? People need to chill, he’s not done anything major, in my opinion. Janet and Britney have moved on, they’re fine. I am enjoying his latest album, he still had plenty of fans out there.
He got arrested for DUI and he's still a narcissist
@@Spantzcatdogand Brittany got pulled over multiple times for speeding but didn’t see anyone wagging their finger at her
@qwoodz777 Nah, she got slandered for other shit
@@Spantzcatdog and rightfully so because she’s no innocent lamb and ppl try to make her as some kind of victim.
@@qwoodz777 So is Justin
Whew 2024 has been so crazy everyone is getting exposed
JC chasez is so much better
I really agree with your take about Justin's reaction to the Superbowl controversy. I have a feeling him and his team were pressured to respond they way he did so as to avoid his own blacklisting, or something to that effect. But I totally understand Janet's treatment by the media was horrible. It totally derailed a legend's career but, sadly, that's how it was back then
His later album failed so bad 😔😔😔😔
You fail so bad because you listen to lame music like Bieber
@@pink-slytherin hahaha you're so pathetic , talking shit without even know my music taste , anyway depends on the sales and the chart his album does "fail"
@@pink-slytherin You're so pathetic 🤣🤣🤣
@@pink-slytherinyou're so pathetic 🤣
@@pink-slytherin You fail so bad for not allowing others to have an opinion. If you want to continue supporting this horrible person feel free. Leave others alone.
i cannot in my right mind cancel JT for all these nuanced situations when so many celebs are literal predators. i guaruntee half off y'all still support nicki minaj even after all she"s done, which was thousands of times worse than any of jt's crmes....
none of this is “nuanced”😂 ur just blinded by stan culture
@@kimendable name one thing he did then… u cant really without including a bunch of random context. Therefor, its nuanced, he is not a predator, a rapist, he isnt violent, he’s not a pedo, not racist… people are having to twist words to make him look bad lmfao
@@Futurebound_jpg ok but no one said he is? im referring more to the Britney thing. no medical care in that situation is literally life threatening & illlegal
@@Futurebound_jpg it’s as simple as it gets. hes retracted his apology & nothing about the situation is “nuanced”
Have you ever thought that people can hate on Nicki but also Justin? Like this isn’t a black and white situation like I just hate any celebrity that supports shitty things or has a bad attitude
So happy with thaaaaat
"Oh no, not the consequences of my actions, coming back to haunt me twenty years into my successful career?"
JT can be better, but never does anything to be better. Kinda self-serving, no?
Both Britney and him are going to be irrelevant 90s stars in a few years. Both are terrible human beings. The only reason Britney Spears is relevant because if the whole conservativeship and her book. Both of their fandoms acting like idiots not seeing that both artists have issues. Celebrity stan culture is hilarious. Y'all are giving them both unnecessary attention
You know the song “Can’t stop the feeling?” Well he really can’t “Stop the drinking” 😂😂😂🤣 Sorry…That was unrelated to the video.
actually, when britney was performing evertime on ABS Special 2003 in the zone, she said that she wrote it (everytime) two years ago in germany - which was in 2001, so it was probably about the baby she had to ab@@t but also about the relationship between britney and justin.
Dear sobr me: You wacthed this vidoe. Don't watch it again, You know more
Justin threw Janet under the bus but Janet is over it now so I am going to move on. He chose to not stand up for her for the sake of her career.
Justin Timberlake is guilty of being mediocre in hindsight - he’s not exactly a predator and I don’t think any of this stuff is as relevant as the fact that Justin is too told to have no identity or niche as an artist.
He can sing OK, but he can’t really blow. He can move, but he’s not a legendary dancer, he’s written some songs but none are memorable… his music releases are always a safe, palatable version of whatever is trending at the time.
Exactly, the Neptunes’ (Pharrell & Chad Hugo) songs on Justified were originally made for MJ’s Invincible and Futuresex had some of Timbaland’s and Danja’s most experimental production. I always think MJ, Usher, Babyface, Miguel, Weekend, Joe, Chris Brown, Ginuwine,etc could’ve gotten the same songs and put their own sauce on them (maybe making them better).
Think it goes to show that men in the music industry can still keep going on, even when their new music is not good... By the looks of his new tour, seems like he can still sell shows, and that the general public will still keep supporting him
remember when Taylor Swift said Justin Timberlake was the “Frank Sinatra of our generation” 😂😂😭💔💔💔
I’ve been watching your videos for a while, Honest, and I have a bit of feedback.
You are creating video essays and you’re picking interesting topics, but way you bring your videos to a conclusion is weaker than the rest of the video. In a lot of these videos, actually, it seems like there’s an abrupt stop instead of a final point oran overarching message.
If there isn’t a strong opinion or view or vision of the circumstance, that’s being built as a result of the details that you’re discussing, you’re not doing anything more than reading a Wikipedia page.
Wow first comment since his arrest
He's 90s% guilty
He got arrested for DUI today
STOP ALL THE HATES PEOPLE. THIS TH-camR IS JUST EXPRESSING HIS VIEWS ON ABOUT THE HATE THAT JT IS GETTING ON. HE IS NOT HATING ON JT!! STOP IT!! I AM JUST ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED AT ALL OF PEOPLE THAT KEPT HATING ON JT. I AM BLAMING WOKE, FEMINISM AND CANCEL CULTURE FOR THIS!!!
And yes hahaha laugh at me! I am just sick and tired all these hates against Justin Timberlake. I've get harrassed and bullied here just because I listen to his music and defend him. People just need to leave JT alone and stop harrassing me with your hates against JT😡
I feel like hes definitely overhated
I’ve never clicked on one of your vids so fast. 😂
As usual, you’re spot on and nuanced. Listen, no Timberlake fan here, JC was my boo back in the day but Justin is getting quite a lot of flack I’m not sure he should and most of it is ages old drama between him and a teenage girlfriend. Continuing to drag Justin for what was done to Janet only reduces Janet to that moment in time. It’s not fair to either of them. Also, Britney is being infantilized to an extreme extent. She had autonomy, a lot of it, before the conservatorship and made LOTS of bad choices that harmed her career. She continues to today. Look at her current man! I don’t think Justin is producing very good music right now and he certainly isn’t meeting the moment but does he deserve to be a punching bag for being and doing what every other man did at the time? Not sure.
Very well-said👌 You articulated my exact thoughts on this
I think the actual singer of the last few bars of “Cry Me a River” coming forward was way more damning than any of the 30 year old relationship drama. He did make some awfully shitty moves, but he was also in his 20s and knew saying something in that culture would sabotage his career. I can’t tell you how many shitty things I probably did in my 20s with no gained knowledge, and to have a national spotlight on him while doing it?
I feel like he's overhated.
Agree. Justin does deserve criticism, but people focus too much on him and not on people like Les Moonves, the CBS director that forced Janet to issue a public apology and pretty much moved the strings to cause Jackson's career's downfall.
Trashing and using women for decades just for building a career? Yeah he deserves it all
He is currently very overhated, people mention him in the same sentence as actual abusers like Chris Brown. That is just very unfair, though he is definitely not perfect, he is far from the devil people make him out to be. It is so ironic that it is Britney stans who are trying to cancel him the most, when Britney arguably did much worse things way more deserving of cancellation (verbal and physical child abuse, allegedly beating up her ex-husband, constantly rude to fast food and hotel employees.)
wtf are you taking about ? britney's always been kind to people that worked for her. you clearly don't know her 💀
@rainbowerabymariah How do you know that she has always been kind to people? You don't know her either. Just a couple of days ago, she had a huge fight in a hotel with her new boyfriend and she terrorized the hotel staff. Start holding this grown woman accountable. There is no excuse to treat other people this way.
@@hayal1612 of course i don't personally know her, but in her +20 years of career i saw a lot of people who met her saying she's one of the most down to earth and sweetest celebrities so...
but i agree she had a meltdown in this hotel.
i don't know if you read her book, you'd see everything that led her to this kind of behaviour, i'm not saying everything is justified but it explains a lot. 😊
@@rainbowerabymariah I absolutely sympathize with the abuse she has been put through, and the way her family used her for money is inexcusable. But I’ll be honest, I don’t really trust that her book tells the whole truth. Many people have come out about inconsistencies in her story. Such as Ginuwine saying that the Justin ‘Fo Shiz’ incident did not really happen. Or backup dancers confirming that Britney’s affair with Wade was more than just a kiss. Or Britney saying that the VMA kiss with Madonna was not planned, when there are rehearsal videos of them doing the kiss. I don’t think Britney is intentionally lying, but it is abundantly clear that her memoir is not the full truth. I do 100% believe that she has been put through abuse, but at a certain point she has to take accountability for the abuse she puts others through too (first and foremost her kids). At this point she’s in her 40s and still not taking any steps to correct her own wrongdoings, so I’m kind of done with the way we are expected to treat Britney with kid gloves. She’s an adult and she should start acting like one. (Sorry for the long ass Ted Talk 💀)
@@hayal1612 well, u've got a point I must admit ! britney is definitely not perfect (no one is actually) but I do believe this abuse left severe scars on her mind, and it has an impact on her way of thinking I guess 🤷♂️
idk I'm not a professional 😭
Well, he has been my nemesis for 25 years so...
Always thought he was overhated...not everything's his fault
If you watched the Superbowl documentary....Justin arrived at airport mere 20 minutes before half time show started. Had a Police escort so he would get there on time, was pulled in by Janet and the stylist minutes before....no one know what was discussed but them.
You want to blame someone for Janet? Look up LES MOONVES. He was the head of CBS at the tine, very powerful. He requested an in person apology from both of them. Justin went and kissed the ring as they say. Janet did not. Should she have to? maybe not....but then LES made it his personal mission to ruin her.
Well, this has been talked about a million times. He even acknowledged his wrongdoings. It's better for him to acknowledge his wrongs than to never do it. However, are we always going hound Justin over BS that has happened well over 20 years ago? Especially when none of us was there to know the truth? The issue with Britney is her mental illness. How much do we know is the truth and is not? Since her conservatorship ended, she knows she has so much power to say and do what she wants. Knowing her fans will continue to support her. While Justin has been moving forward with his life and career. Yet, she continues to have these mental issues. A one year failed marriage, drama after drama and now she's dating a convicted felon who has multiple kids. And as for Janet Jackson, it upsets me that he did waited years to defend her. Especially given how she's a female and how she's a black artist. The same black artist who he looked up to. As well as many others. However, when will the public and media stop acting like Britney is always a victim? When will it be time for her to take accountability for her actions? All those erotic videos/posts on Instagram. Are we supposed to pretend that everything with her is normal? Fans will ignore it until some serious mess happens to her.
I agree, at this point I really have no idea what people want from Just Timberlake, the dude apologized multiple times yet people keep bringing up the same thing. It seems like people are just mad that he is the only one who moved on with his life and career. Janet and Britney both let one incident and a lot of issues in their personal lives ruin their careers and for some reason people want that to be Justin's fault... you are right it's been 20 years people need to let it go and I feel that in all fairness Janet and Britney would have done the same thing to Justin, it's called show business lol.
@chillyman7340 , exactly. Who am I to get mad at Justin for something he did or didn't do 20 years ago? Britney is holding a grudge. And Janet just wanted an apology. He apologized to Janet and they made amends. But Britney is a different story. She seriously needs help and to move on. And I think she has issues with Christina Aguilera, not just because of her and Justin's magazine cover. But the fact that Christina seems to live a better life than hers.
It doesn’t take away that he acknowledged his wrongdoings. However he still was sneaky and tried to make Britney and Janet the blame. He got away with it. It took him YEARS LATER to apologize. Let’s not forget that Britney stayed quiet about things. She’s been through so much, and has every right to write the truth in her book.
@@otashu26 You make a good point but you can't expect Justin to apologize every time people make a post, throw shade, mention or write books about him, people need to move on, it's been almost 20 years now.
britney also hasnt said anything incriminating about JT at all. people are just misconstruing her words! she herself doesnt blame him for anything and wishes him the best in her book.... she just wrote about a difficult moment in her life that involved him and people took it and ran with it
In my opinion none of this seems bad enough to the point where I’d consider him to be a terrible person.
These seem more like mistakes than anything else. Although I really don’t care at all about him cheating on Brittany or her cheating on him.
Dude, I get where you’re coming from but, HE has played a role in defaming and throwing others under the bus.
I hate what Britney's family did to her. I think they should be in jail for life.
But I also hate how she tends to lie, downplays, makes passive-aggressive comments and every time gets away with it. She's always a victim (except for what these monsters did to her, of course). Come on. Will anybody keep her accountable? It also doesn't make sense to blame someone like her teenage boyfriend, who was not even in her life for 20 fk years, for her choices as an adult.
I'm not a fan of Justin, but after learning what she did, what caused the whole cry me a river drama, which was a complete slap in the face from her side (making out for months with his best friend at the time, which was confirmed several times in detail by the second choreographer of Justin's tour), I totally understand his "I want to apologies to absolutely fcking nobody" type of pettiness against her, he was hurt. And I hate how she is downplaying what she did back then.
but justin cheated on her several times
@@rainbowerabymariahand Britney locked her 1 year old in a bathroom with a knife. No one in this situation is good.
@@Link-1004what that got to do with him being a mediocre star pls 💀
@@Link-1004 a knife ? didn't know about the knife
Branch is GUILTY?!
He is just not a likeable person lol. He may be a cook artist, but his personality is very cocky and unhumbled.
Timberland is an example of pretty male priviledge.
If you ask me Justin Timberlake is 50% to blame for the damage done to Brittney Spears because of all he's has/hasn't done to her physically, mentally, and emotionally while the public is also 50% to blame for how they reacted. But when it comes to Janet Jackson he's 1% at most and the other 99% is on the public. It was a total accident that occured and he didn't mean to expose her breast on live TV. He just ripped her shirt to hard, it's as simple as that. However he definitely should have stuck up for Janet Jackson more, especially if the rumors were true and they were dating.
People just need to move on...
Stop being dumb
As a fan of Timberlake doing the justified era I never paid attention to all the tabloids media. I do understand some people eat that trash up, but it wasn’t for me. he had a lot going for him beside his break up with Britney. It may have given him a boost but not as much as Britney stans think it did. In fact his relationship and break up with Britney played a small part of his success. A relationship can only get you so far.
This felt very fair and balanced
The Harvey of the boy band. 😊
I feel like a lot criticism is warranted
Especially when he was dressing and acting black 😩 so cringe.
What ???
Since when is having blond-dyed curly hair and being part of a pop boy band is considered acting 'black'? Also, there's not such a thing as 'acting white' or 'acting black'. People should be able to freely choose what they want to wear or who they want to hang out with. Justin may have many faults, but 'acting black' is not one of them.
@@Jfray252 they’re just saying he used black culture and hip hop to further his career and to be taken more seriously in the industry as his reputation of being in *NSYNC made him seem like a soft boy at the time. He definitely tried to “be black” whether you want to admit it or not, it’s out there and it’s public. Britney even exposed him and his band mates as wanting to be more black which is just hilarious
@@Jfray252Acting a color isn't a thing, but cultural appropriation is and it's definitely clips of him doing just that. He was definitely trying to be as black as he could, with how he was acting and dressing. Everyone was confused because he didn't act like that or dress the same when he wasn't "performing".
@@omarxperez When he said "Oh yeah, fo' shiz, fo' shiz! Ginuwine, what's up homie?" 😂
Teens ...
Generation defining hits...
cry me a river, rock your body, sexyback, my love, and what goes around are definitely decade defining songs of the 00s
He has done some very bad things such as with Britney and Justin, and also some other stuff that I forgot about, but people keep bringing it up. Though people have made him out to be Satan himself.
I love how you edited the VMA clip in, Justin reaction just cracks me up EVERY time
Have you seen his devil video? Wish you would have mentioned....
.....I have to agree. And I hate that I do.
Very, we should make his life as bad as yall made janets for something HE did smh i will never get over that.
He proudly painted Britney as the villain for years & quickly threw Janet under the bus. While the 2000's would have been hard on Britney & Janet both regardless, Justin's involvement made things much worse for them.
Let's not forget that he was the biggest culture vulture for the longest time. Riding the coattails off of other Black artists as well as Black culture in general, without ever doing anything to give back to the community that he profited off of.
Of course, there's also the fact that he's a terrible husband who has humiliated his wife multiple times. I know that when you're in love, it's not easy to just up & leave someone. Even if the relationship is horrible. But, hopefully Jessica will eventually find the strength to move on from him.
However, I do agree that Kevin Federline has done far worse to Britney. I'm also glad that she kicked Sam Asghari to the curb! I really tried to like him, but there were always too many red flags when it came to him.
Yet you have other artists commiting domestic abuse, human trafficking, grooming minors, etc. Let's pretend Justin is the worst of the worst for being a scumbag and a narcissist.
Thank you, for calling him out for what he has done. People keep saying he’s being overhated when he got away with this for years.
He’s always been that character in the industry that people say “yes, he’s a bad person, but the music is so good!!” Or “yes, he’s a classic narcissist, but his live shows are amazing!!”
He always wanted to be the main character - watch any interview with him and Jessica and he always manages to steal the spotlight and make it all about him 😳
Yes agreed with this video
'Too bad' his world tour is selling out, he did one of the most popular and AMAZING Tiny Desk concerts, and his latest album is absolutely fire, despite what people say, they CLEARLY haven't listened to it. He is NOT cancelled by many, many, many people and doesn't deserve to be cancelled at all for things that supposedly happened 20 years ago. The hate is so pathetic and sad. Just move on, like normal people do.
this comment aged like milk especially in the light of him dui lol
Well, he is still touring the world, selling out arena's and very clearly still isn't cancelled, considering the reviews of those concerts. He made a mistake, I'm sure Britney fans know exactly how it feels, since she made quite a few herself, involving law enforcement.
Pretty sure it was a combination of events.. The main one being he's old news.. Every breakout star loses steam..while Britney and Janet may factor in.. Man In The Woods was the start of his decline.. Aging boy band star.. Typical scenario..the Superbowl stunt was an absolute terrible idea.. Janet did not need such a juvenile move, so she's as responsible for thinking it was necessary..even if it didn't malfunction, it would have added nothing to that set..
This is all a part of the crooked music industry! The color RED alone, says it all. Humiliation is a part of the game to get into the next level of crookedness.
He has some good songs… but his albums are mehhh for me. Darren Hayes is better (albums wise in my option) but no one talks about him
I've never ever liked him as a person and at least I know why......
There was always something about his vibe.....
Right like his vibe seems dark and eerie.
When are we gonna stop pretending we care about his decades old mistakes? He didn't invent misogyny he just benefited from it
cry me a river
But we DO care. Stop acting like nothing happened.
@@mariandown2327does it really matter? britney is self destructing because of situations outside of justin and janet and him are friends and she’s having a great time touring. nothing justin timberlake may have done 20 years ago is affecting these ladies in anyway way currently, so why do you care?
@@kamfrusciante Yes it does matter. What he did was wrong and he got away with it. He deserves to be called out for it. We don’t know what he’s actually like person. 😂
@@otashu26 can you tell me what did he do that was so horrible? not want to have a child at 19? participate in a publicity stunt planned by his idol?
I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again because it is important: Britney is a far more problematic person than JT. In 2008 she locked 1 year old Jayden (her son) in the bathroom with her WITH A KNIFE, not allowing him to leave, all while threatening to kill herself. The police had to get involved and after a three hour long standoff, they were finally able to get them out and she was carried out on a stretcher and put in psychiatric hold. To this day she still emotionally abuses her sons and sends her instagram fans after them so they will be attacked. No wonder they don’t want to be around her. She drove around with her sons on her lap when they were babies without any regards for their safety. This happened multiple times and not just when she was being followed by paparazzi. She is consistently rude to people (lashing out at Jack in a box employee who tried to comfort her, bullying Christina Aguilera and calling her backup dancers fat, starting a one sided beef with Selena Gomez.) She has even been accused by Sam Asghari for physically abusing him and hitting him in his sleep. There are literally pictures of him with a black eye. In 2010 she even had a s€xua| harassment lawsuit filed against her by her bodyguard which had to be settled in court, but of course people turned a blind eye to it because she’s an attractive woman. Worst one in my opinion: When Sean and Jayden were just 6 and 5, she deliberately fed them crab when she knew they were severely allergic to seafood. When the children started vomiting, she refused any medical attention and told staff to "mind their business." She would not accept any help. Those children could have died. That is child abuse. Nobody should support this woman. I’m not calling JT perfect at all and people have the right to talk about him because he has made mistakes, but Britney has done things way far far worse. Yet constantly her stans will look the other way and make her out to be the victim every single time, when she has also been the abuser multiple times. If you don’t support JT because you think he is problematic, but you do support Britney you are a massive hypocrite. If you cancel JT then cancel Britney too.
Stfu JT stan. Your fave is a flop 😂
Wow, I didn't know that about her. Thank you.
THANK YOU! I am a HUGE JT stan but does that mean i condone his past actions? NO!! I still like him a lot and i think hes gotten way better but that doesnt mean that what i think he did was right when he was building his career. But on that same token, people need to hold Britney just as accountable as Justin, because they've both equally done problematic things.
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Stop bringing up that happened over 20yrs years ago. Justin Timberlake has moved on and not canceled. He is selling out shows and adding more concerts dates. Do your research Janet Jackson documentary said that she and Justin Timberlake are very good friends Move on
Unfortunately JT needs to take that final lead to corruption. Back turned on his album cover? Getting there.
i agree. i think ppl want a person to blame and point at and blame for britney and janet’s issues.. but i think he is getting so much backlash for no reason
Hate to say it but he's as guilty as it comes. (Especially that I believe Britney)
It's not matter gonna much because it was 20 years ago. Both Justin and Britney are going lose relevancy in a few years.
Are you serious? He has trashed Britney in the media even 10 years after their break up...
I'm more happy to see people no longer liking this man. Like even as a child growing up I never liked him and then as I got older as a teenager and I would look into the shit that he would do and was said about him the more I really couldn't stand him.
Like I feel like the biggest red flag should have been when he was in his boy band and he literally had his security guard Yankee what 15 year old girl I believe it was into the hotel and bring her to his room so that he could berate and yell at her because she told him she thought JC was cuter.
There were literal witnesses who watched that happen as he had his huge ass bodyguard manhandle a child kidnap them so he can yell at them because he wasn't their faith because she like many others there were yelling and asking the boys for pictures or tell them how much they like them and he was ignoring the fans.
Not to mention every relationship he's been in he feels like it was always a power play whether you're talking about when he was dating Britney or Cameron clearly he couldn't stand dating those women because they were more famous than he was. His current wife I feel bad for her because there were always talks about how he was constantly cheating on her he was always breaking up with her he didn't really like her there was the several times he was seen with different models or people that he was working with on movies and stuff before they even got married.
Then when they do get married he still is allegedlycheating on her and it's crazy because they have it in their prenup apparently that every time he cheats he has to pay her money and he doesn't care matter of fact even when you look at their children both of their kids were born within 8 months after he was caught in a cheating scandal meaning that he either found out and his wife was pregnant and then chose to go out and cheat on her or she and him did not know that she was pregnant yet yet something in him made him want to go out and cheat on her.
Watching any interview or red carpet that he has done with his wife and the way he would absolutely talk over that woman the freaking interviewers will be talking to her about her career or her life and he will just randomly insert himself because he needs to be the center of attention.
The things he did to Brittany and then tried to paint her out to be the bad guy was absolutely horrible. The fact he was well aware of the Janet Jackson and his performance and the stunt they were going to pull then to sit there turn around and act like he had nothing to do with it when he saw the backlash and throw that woman under the bus which basically threw her career off track because it pissed off people who were able to take her music off of MTV VH1 bet and all these other places and she never recovered from that truly.
All the way to the fact that people forget that he was one of the original white boys / white artist who sat there and pretended to be Urban / black. I remember when he had that weird-ass blackcent I remember when he constantly sat there and tried to surround himself with black artists or people who are affiliated with them I remember when he sat there and went through his whole r&b era and for whatever reason he couldn't just be a white boy who did r&b because trust me they fucking existed even back in the eighties and nineties my afro-colombian grandmother was a fan of quite a few white men who did r&b and soul music on top of the black men who did it but no he had to sit there and pretend or try to insert himself into the culture and it was really weird. That man is a mediocre white boy at best a overly clingy attention whore at worst.