In a year that would've seen John Lennon celebrate his 80th birthday, what is your personal opinion on how Lennon's career might have progressed if he hadn't died?
If Jose Podermo had not shot John Lennon and Mark David Chapman had not acted as a patsy and Yoko did not help cover up this crime, John would have turned the tide in Vietnam, and by now, making love in the street would seem common place and violence would be seen as vulgar.
I could totally see that he would have dived into the early avant garde stuff and the noosphere on the internet along with Todd Rundgren and and with early digital recording.
I was ten when I heard about his death on the radio, before school. I was absolutely into the Beatles, had discovered them some years earlier by browsing through my parents' records. Hardly a single day I don't think about John.
Just listening to 'walking on thin ice' ---- wow! this was recorded in 1980???? Blownaway. What a sound - miles ahead of its time. Literally sounds like an electric record now... Id argue John is the greatest musical artist of all time..
Sometimes I say: Why did that fool do this to John Lennon? The hole in my heart / our hearts - still hurts! John, time has stood still since we've been apart! We can't stop LOVING YOU!
I was 15 when he was killed. Just woke up, was getting clothes ready for school and heard my sister yell, "Oh my God! They just SHOT him ...". I don't know why, but had a gut feeling who she was talking about before I got to her room and heard the story on her tv. Almost didn't make it to school that day. I was crying, my sister was crying, my mother was crying. I decided to go and ended up being interviewed by our school's radio program. :(
This book is enjoyable if you haven't read the books of Fred Seaman and May Pang. If you have read those you're not going to find a whole lot new here. If you haven't read that you would like this. It's well done.
Yoko Ono is unfairly maligned by many Lennon fans...?? Let's see the real facts: It was Yoko who encourages John to start taking heroin when they started their relationship. It was Yoko who encourages him to sign with Allen Klein. It was Yoko who encourages him to end his partnership, and then his friendship, with Paul McCartney. Yoko requires him to quit primal scream therapy, something that appears to be helping her husband calm down and work on his core traumas. She requires him to forego contact with his son. She requires him to move to New York. She requires him to move to Los Angeles with an employee she has selected while she conducts affairs in New York. When he begins to reconnect with old friends, his son, and his muse as a result of this arrangement, she requires him to return to her apartment. Three days later, he emerges, unsure of what day or year it is. He complains of having spent three days “puking his guts out.” He immediately breaks off his relationship with the employee, who was encouraging him to collaborate with Paul McCartney and returns to her apartment. In short order, he announces that he is retiring from the music business. According to multiple accounts, he begins to use heroin again, something that he may or may not continue to do for the next four or five years. After giving birth to a son-who may himself have been born addicted to heroin-she withdraws to a separate apartment. Her husband spends his time largely alone in his bedroom, a knife above his bed-a present from his wife, who has encouraged him to cut all ties with his past. Yoko instructs his personal assistants-the only people with whom her husband is permitted regular contact-not to allow calls from his friends, family, and former collaborators to be put through. Her husband begins to show signs of serious depression and, possibly, addiction. She requires that he sign power of attorney over to her. Her husband is not permitted to travel to England, even after he obtains his green card, but the family do spend several extended stays in Japan visiting hers. Finally, after several years of this, her husband decides he would like to begin recording music again, something that makes him happy. He collaborates on several demos with his personal assistant, a 23 year old who plays percussion on his recordings, instead of with friends like Paul McCartney, Elton John, David Bowie, or Mick Jagger. Yoko requires that she have equal space on this new album, which is to be about the couple’s marriage. However, she refuses to spend time with him that summer, encouraging or requiring him to spend time elsewhere while she carries on an affair in New York with a younger man. She asks attorneys about whether she might obtain more than half of her husband’s wealth in a divorce and is told that this will not be possible. Her husband begins working again, showing the first signs of happiness, focus, and enthusiasm in years. Shortly after the record is released, her husband is shot dead in front of her apartment. In the next few days-some say as soon as the next day-the man with whom she has been having an affair moves into her apartment and begins wearing her late husband’s clothes. She does not move out of the apartment, choosing instead to remain for the ensuing 39 years at the scene of her husband’s brutal-a site she must pass to enter or exit her home. She reluctantly permits her late husband’s first son to travel to New York after his murder, but does not allow his ex-wife to join the boy. Later, the boy must work with Paul McCartney to buy back items belonging to his late father that were apparently intended for him to receive in the event of his father’s death. Well, knowing all that, the fans treat her very fairly.
Ringo said to Paul let it go about Paul asking Ono to sing his own son,which wasn't accompanied by any of them,only strings,Paul, George and Ringo worked on music that wasn't put on vinal by John.
John and Yoko gave lengthy interview's on Dec 6, and 8th. They straight up lied about their lives, presenting a phony image. Julian pretty much sums it up, he admired his father's talent, but didnt respect him as a person. Mark Chapman actually spoke the truth "John Lennon was a Phony".
Someone should tell those two guys that the nurses said Lennon was shot from the front which means another shooter. And Sean claims the United States government killed him
This is never been spoken and there was people who are witnesses of the killing and not one said what you mean? Where is the messenger that told you that?
Yeah I also believe that he would have gone on tour . But I could not see it being a world tour. Probably just certain cities. I also believe , The Beatles reunion would be like the anthology Series. But not them recording again together. And of course he would’ve done some sessions with Ringo Paul or George on their projects. I do believe that. Of course will never know for sure. I still miss him
We could've gotten a properly recorded live Lennon album, so much more music and the possibility of a Beatles reunion. Maybe not to record new music, maybe a final tour or few couple of shows in the 90's.
Huge mistake to have Yoko on the record. Her songs are not strong and her vocals are just not easy on the ear. I love John's stuff except dear yoko which is an eye roller but his other tracks were strong.
John Lennon would have continued to astound us with beautiful and honest music if he was not assassinated. He would tell us his story through his music. No books necessary. Womack is obviously in the Lennon camp’s pocket and can’t say anything controversial about Yoko. We all know why there is bitter enmity towards her. Just read books by Cynthia Lennon, Julia Baird, and Julian Lennon older interviews. I also find it interesting that Lennon’s generosity toward Yoko’s career is mistaken for a good marriage after stating John was a humane person. I also believe there is more to the story on Perdomo and skipping over that important subject. John Lennon had a false sense of security for sure. George Harrison knew the risk of being too famous during touring and I can’t imagine it wasn’t discussed in the Beatles camp and among friends. John knew the history of assassins in the U.S. and murders of Sharon Tate and others. Peebles and Seaman are discredited but probably closer to being honest. Fans will read any book because we’re hungry for anything Beatles related, salacious or not, and Womack knows it.
The best books on Lennon's last days are: The Last Days of John Lennon, by Fred Seaman, Lennon's private secretary, and DAKOTA DAYS: The true story of John, written by John Green, the tarot reader for John and Yoko and closed friend in the last 5 years of John’s life. Both books portray the real John of that period, which Yoko and John's worshipers don't want to divulge: Yoko's outrageous addiction to heroin and superstition, Lennon's depression in the mid-to-late 1970s, etc. These books fully exposes Yoko's manipulations and craziness, some of the problems that plagued the Lennons' marriage, and the creative impotence that tormented Lennon in the late 1970s.
It's all very sad. The man was emasculated by Yoko. He needed a mummy figure. She played this card and the john and yoko thing was just a veneer. Depressing the last album was an awful way to go out. I love John but this is true. Fred Seamans interviews bear this out.
@@Multijoe84 agree, the album has its moments considering how rusty he was after 5 years at home. Double Fantasy just a warm-up album to stretch his legs before going on to greater things.
There were good sources that intimated Yoko was going to file for a divorce around this time(as she also had another relationship on the side); as well as Yoko's admission to People magazine in 1982, I believe, she was on heroin during this time. There are many other reputable sources to suggest that this marriage, and John in particular, was not healthy. This isn't Yoko bashing, but rather trying to use critical thinking and research to suss out the truth. As you say, John was dependent on a strong female figure in his life. I suggest reading May Pang's book (whom John was still in contact with during the so-called "baking bread" years) to start.
@@danielc1978 And it wasn't an "assassination." Lennon should have stayed with his family instead of abandoning them. He was especially cruel to Cynthia the way she came home to find Yoko wearing Cynthia's bathrobe sitting with John in the kitchen and Lennon launching an attack on Cynthia rather than try in anyway to console her. Karma might not be instant but it never loses an address. #1 72nd street.
Friend of Dorothy is just great, there's a version by Steffy Lennon on TH-cam, please listen to it, Help me to help myself and Now and then had also a great potential + the ones from Milk and Honey (I don't wanna face it, Stepping out, Grow old with me, etc), and don't forget that Free as a bird and Real love are Lennon songs... Not intended to be recorded by "The Beatles". He was the best.
@Mike The Psych, excellent question. I am getting ready to order this book as well. For me, the answer to your question depends on if you have already ready the beatles Biography, The Beatles - All These Years - Extended Special Edition: Volume One: Tune In. While this is only a partial review that extends to late 1962, it will give you a special appreciation for John’s early life growing up and his first years as a beatle. Mark is expected to release his Second Tome in 2024. That’s my two cents:) Good reading.
I think Double Fantasy wouldn't have been the hit, obviously if John hadn't died. The era of nostalgia came along during the nineties, and the eighties was all about moving onwards and upwards. Double Fantasy does have some good songs on John's behalf, but they are also rather conservative.
John also said he was going back home to Liverpool,telling family,as Julia said,she said it was about time he came home to look after the family.i would think he would of got back to his friendship with Paul,because they had known each other since they were kids,so who knows what would of happened,creamating John so quickly,no funeral,keeping Julian and other family members out of John's life,then saying to them that they had nothing to do with him,even though it was her fault,Dakota belonging to Julian,which he's intitled to get after she passed,which by the sounds of it won't be long.she used men,Tony Cox getting her out of the Japanese lunny bin,put in by her parents,sussing out London and trying to find John to fund her show,she ripped Julian and Cynthia off,keeping him away from Paul and everyone else,Fred seaman saying the marriage was bad,Ono preferring to be with another man,so easy to see who Sean's father is,Ono screached her way,no talent,using John.
Please don’t get confused It’s Cynthia who was cruel to John She cheated on him various times She acted like she acted like she didn’t like bing in public eye but when she saw that John was happy with Yoko she started talking to the press trying to victimize herself The most awful thing that she did besides cheating on John is that she poisoned Julian’s mind and because of her, he is always talking bad about Yoko, John and even about Sean Because Julian is a Lennon, I really hope he goes to therapy so that he can become a better person Cynthia was the true wich In fact, I don’t have Facebook but I knew somebody who had Julian as a friend This person told me that he finally saw how evil his mother was Yoko on the other hand is a wonderful woman I’am very proud of her and Sean for keeping John’s memory alive Once more I ask you please don’t get confused by Cynthia’s dirty work
@@angiethebeatlesgirl228 There is absolutely no evidence Cynthia was cruel and cheated on John. Don’t spread falsehoods just because you are not a fan of someone.
@@drummer78you need to give that advice to all the Yoko haters because there is also no evidence that she missed treated John In fact, there is lots of evidence that shows that they were a happy couple and I believe them
What Yoko feared the most about John was his desire to know Christ. John DID accept Christ and the Father. This event is documented. She hated this because it exposed her as a Witch and an Idol worshiper, who was also anti Christ, and a manipulator. She went to great pains to talk him out of it, and eventually John gave in. At least, it APPEARED that he gave in, but I believe he held on to his basic bedrock faith in Christ, without talking to her about it. I dare say that John Lennon didn't cast aside the TRUTH so easily. It became part of him. I can almost guarantee you that John cried out to Jesus, when he realized he had been shot. If he did, he was instantly forgiven for his sins & taken up into heaven by the Angels of God!! Every Believer in Christ should be praying for Yoko, that she will come to Christ and repent before she passes away and its too late. She is almost out of time. She's 88 now, and not doing so well. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering toward us, not willing that ANY should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Christ is not the only way to enlightenment. Christianity is a dying religion. Fire and brimstone doesn't work anymore. Isn't it enough "You" know CHRIST without being an obnoxious proselytizer . Jesus pleaded love and then they made a religion out of it , millions dying in the name of hatred and devision ,distorting Christ's message of Love. Long live love .
I'm a huge Fan of Lennon , The Beatles and the Fab4 so this is what i think; Lennon was into anything and everything musical! So by 1990s He surely would got into HIP-HOP maybe even Rap Music sure would have written a few great songs and not sticking to Rock n Roll!! He liked to experiment new sounds and sure YOKO ONO would have stayed a huge influence on his music and songwritings!! Sure Human Rights and PEACE and LOVE would always be Central themes to HIM!!! And a Beatles Reunion for sure!! So all that was shot down by a crazy so called fan not a real fan but a so called fan a FAKE FAN shot Lennon in 1980!! RIP!!!
When the Beatles broke up the public was hungry for anything from the individual Beatles. We wanted to hear John speaking in interviews, performing songs and creating recordings. All along that process Yoko insinuated herself sucking the joy out of listening to our beloved Beatle. She was a talentless hack who preyed upon John and assumed much of his identity trying to be relevant as a supposed "artist". Nobody asked her to interject herself into interviews or howl and cackle during John's performances or insist she get equal time on record. The Starting Over record should have been a dual disk with one of John and one of Yoko. But she pressured John to have alternating John/Yoko songs giving her more potential listens. People would have thrown out her album otherwise. Nobody in entertainment has created so much tension and anger than Yoko Ono.
Please dont idealise Yoko or elevate her beyond the hard bitten reality. Yoko’s major contribution will be her participatory Dada art. Her approach was clever and deserves consideration. Her music, by contrast, doesn’t measure. Case in point- her 1973 solo record sold 8,000 units, which means it was a flop w a capital F. Part of her inability to appeal is her intractable Japanese accent. This limitation is not her fault; coming to English phonology via Japanese is incredibly difficult. Bottom line is that Yoko wouldn’t have moved the musical meter but for her association w JL. Her visual art was valid. In fact, an argument can be made that her non musical artistic status was damaged by the relationship
Double fantasy in retrospect is retro in style and production, the Goldman allegations seem more plausible, Lennon an unreliable source , the happy ever after vibe just looks thin.
For somebody who’s life work has been studying the life of John Lennon, you should know by now how yoko treated him and the affairs she had behind his back. Stop defending her. And yes, yoko’s influence over John is what broke up the Beatles
Woman wud have imp sales of DF, also return to UK, Beate Reunion at Ringo wedding,,but his death increased sales,,,MH would have done well, 1982 may have been Beatle reunion, perfect timing,,,,also Leave Kitten Alone was meant to be released as a Beatle single in 1981,,,,
There’s NO WAY Double Fantasy would have been successful as it was after the horrible death! I thought I’d stop watching after this author said, I think, more successful.
John was on some microbiotic diet towards the end of his life. The photos from that time make him look anorexic. That, plus his cigarette smoking, leads me to think he would have died in his forties from heart failure.
The definition of ‘assassinate’ is to ‘murder (an important person) for political or religious reasons.’ Given that Mark Chapman admits he prayed to the Devil to give him strength to kill Lennon, I think a case could be made for the latter. Either way, a very sick man indeed.
I've been a big fan of The Beatles from their beginning. IMHO Double Fantasy could have been a far better album if J&Y kept the guys from Cheap Trick on the track. Double Fantasy was 'okay', nothing great about it. As for having to listen to her songs, my ears just don't want to ever do that. I don't think that album would have gone gold so fast had John not been killed.
In a year that would've seen John Lennon celebrate his 80th birthday, what is your personal opinion on how Lennon's career might have progressed if he hadn't died?
If Jose Podermo had not shot John Lennon and Mark David Chapman had not acted as a patsy and Yoko did not help cover up this crime, John would have turned the tide in Vietnam, and by now, making love in the street would seem common place and violence would be seen as vulgar.
I could totally see that he would have dived into the early avant garde stuff and the noosphere on the internet along with Todd Rundgren and and with early digital recording.
I was ten when I heard about his death on the radio, before school. I was absolutely into the Beatles, had discovered them some years earlier by browsing through my parents' records. Hardly a single day I don't think about John.
It still hurts as it did that Monday night 40 years ago.
Facts
Thanks guys....great discussion
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I think that lennon is something beyond music and even art. He created culture
Just listening to 'walking on thin ice' ---- wow! this was recorded in 1980???? Blownaway. What a sound - miles ahead of its time. Literally sounds like an electric record now...
Id argue John is the greatest musical artist of all time..
Sometimes I say: Why did that fool do this to John Lennon? The hole in my heart / our hearts - still hurts! John, time has stood still since we've been apart! We can't stop LOVING YOU!
I was 15 when he was killed. Just woke up, was getting clothes ready for school and heard my sister yell, "Oh my God! They just SHOT him ...". I don't know why, but had a gut feeling who she was talking about before I got to her room and heard the story on her tv.
Almost didn't make it to school that day. I was crying, my sister was crying, my mother was crying. I decided to go and ended up being interviewed by our school's radio program. :(
This book is enjoyable if you haven't read the books of Fred Seaman and May Pang. If you have read those you're not going to find a whole lot new here. If you haven't read that you would like this. It's well done.
Yoko Ono is unfairly maligned by many Lennon fans...?? Let's see the real facts: It was Yoko who encourages John to start taking heroin when they started their relationship. It was Yoko who encourages him to sign with Allen Klein. It was Yoko who encourages him to end his partnership, and then his friendship, with Paul McCartney. Yoko requires him to quit primal scream therapy, something that appears to be helping her husband calm down and work on his core traumas. She requires him to forego contact with his son. She requires him to move to New York. She requires him to move to Los Angeles with an employee she has selected while she conducts affairs in New York. When he begins to reconnect with old friends, his son, and his muse as a result of this arrangement, she requires him to return to her apartment. Three days later, he emerges, unsure of what day or year it is. He complains of having spent three days “puking his guts out.” He immediately breaks off his relationship with the employee, who was encouraging him to collaborate with Paul McCartney and returns to her apartment. In short order, he announces that he is retiring from the music business. According to multiple accounts, he begins to use heroin again, something that he may or may not continue to do for the next four or five years. After giving birth to a son-who may himself have been born addicted to heroin-she withdraws to a separate apartment. Her husband spends his time largely alone in his bedroom, a knife above his bed-a present from his wife, who has encouraged him to cut all ties with his past. Yoko instructs his personal assistants-the only people with whom her husband is permitted regular contact-not to allow calls from his friends, family, and former collaborators to be put through. Her husband begins to show signs of serious depression and, possibly, addiction. She requires that he sign power of attorney over to her. Her husband is not permitted to travel to England, even after he obtains his green card, but the family do spend several extended stays in Japan visiting hers. Finally, after several years of this, her husband decides he would like to begin recording music again, something that makes him happy. He collaborates on several demos with his personal assistant, a 23 year old who plays percussion on his recordings, instead of with friends like Paul McCartney, Elton John, David Bowie, or Mick Jagger. Yoko requires that she have equal space on this new album, which is to be about the couple’s marriage. However, she refuses to spend time with him that summer, encouraging or requiring him to spend time elsewhere while she carries on an affair in New York with a younger man. She asks attorneys about whether she might obtain more than half of her husband’s wealth in a divorce and is told that this will not be possible. Her husband begins working again, showing the first signs of happiness, focus, and enthusiasm in years. Shortly after the record is released, her husband is shot dead in front of her apartment. In the next few days-some say as soon as the next day-the man with whom she has been having an affair moves into her apartment and begins wearing her late husband’s clothes. She does not move out of the apartment, choosing instead to remain for the ensuing 39 years at the scene of her husband’s brutal-a site she must pass to enter or exit her home. She reluctantly permits her late husband’s first son to travel to New York after his murder, but does not allow his ex-wife to join the boy. Later, the boy must work with Paul McCartney to buy back items belonging to his late father that were apparently intended for him to receive in the event of his father’s death. Well, knowing all that, the fans treat her very fairly.
BRILLIANT
Ringo said to Paul let it go about Paul asking Ono to sing his own son,which wasn't accompanied by any of them,only strings,Paul, George and Ringo worked on music that wasn't put on vinal by John.
Those of us who love John Lennon can’t come to terms with the points you make. But yeah, that’s about fucking right.
John and Yoko gave lengthy interview's on Dec 6, and 8th. They straight up lied about their lives, presenting a phony image. Julian pretty much sums it up, he admired his father's talent, but didnt respect him as a person. Mark Chapman actually spoke the truth "John Lennon was a Phony".
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Someone should tell those two guys that the nurses said Lennon was shot from the front which means another shooter. And Sean claims the United States government killed him
This is never been spoken and there was people who are witnesses of the killing and not one said what you mean? Where is the messenger that told you that?
Yeah I also believe that he would have gone on tour . But I could not see it being a world tour. Probably just certain cities. I also believe , The Beatles reunion would be like the anthology Series. But not them recording again together. And of course he would’ve done some sessions with Ringo Paul or George on their projects. I do believe that. Of course will never know for sure. I still miss him
We could've gotten a properly recorded live Lennon album, so much more music and the possibility of a Beatles reunion. Maybe not to record new music, maybe a final tour or few couple of shows in the 90's.
I still miss him & iften wonder what he would say about things that are haooebing now
Music was never the same after Lennon’s passing. Of course, it evolved afterwards, but a certain innocence was lost.
Huge mistake to have Yoko on the record. Her songs are not strong and her vocals are just not easy on the ear. I love John's stuff except dear yoko which is an eye roller but his other tracks were strong.
And john douglas the executive producer of double fantasy said john was thinking about leave Yoko
It only reached #6. Geffin has discussed this. John and yoko accepted that 6 was as high it was going to go
John Lennon would have continued to astound us with beautiful and honest music if he was not assassinated. He would tell us his story through his music. No books necessary. Womack is obviously in the Lennon camp’s pocket and can’t say anything controversial about Yoko. We all know why there is bitter enmity towards her. Just read books by Cynthia Lennon, Julia Baird, and Julian Lennon older interviews. I also find it interesting that Lennon’s generosity toward Yoko’s career is mistaken for a good marriage after stating John was a humane person. I also believe there is more to the story on Perdomo and skipping over that important subject. John Lennon had a false sense of security for sure. George Harrison knew the risk of being too famous during touring and I can’t imagine it wasn’t discussed in the Beatles camp and among friends. John knew the history of assassins in the U.S. and murders of Sharon Tate and others. Peebles and Seaman are discredited but probably closer to being honest. Fans will read any book because we’re hungry for anything Beatles related, salacious or not, and Womack knows it.
The best books on Lennon's last days are: The Last Days of John Lennon, by Fred Seaman, Lennon's private secretary, and DAKOTA DAYS: The true story of John, written by John Green, the tarot reader for John and Yoko and closed friend in the last 5 years of John’s life. Both books portray the real John of that period, which Yoko and John's worshipers don't want to divulge: Yoko's outrageous addiction to heroin and superstition, Lennon's depression in the mid-to-late 1970s, etc. These books fully exposes Yoko's manipulations and craziness, some of the problems that plagued the Lennons' marriage, and the creative impotence that tormented Lennon in the late 1970s.
brilliant, thank you.
@@andreiacarlini1024Goldman's biography also.
What about "Milk and Honey"? L.P. And the great song " Nobody told Me". ????
He was giving that to Ringo to use on his 81 album.
It's all very sad. The man was emasculated by Yoko. He needed a mummy figure. She played this card and the john and yoko thing was just a veneer. Depressing the last album was an awful way to go out. I love John but this is true. Fred Seamans interviews bear this out.
The last album isn’t depressing. Some good, upbeat tracks on there.
@@Multijoe84 agree, the album has its moments considering how rusty he was after 5 years at home. Double Fantasy just a warm-up album to stretch his legs before going on to greater things.
@@tricornclub9594 I a hundred times over agree with you. Woman is right up there with Imagine.
There were good sources that intimated Yoko was going to file for a divorce around this time(as she also had another relationship on the side); as well as Yoko's admission to People magazine in 1982, I believe, she was on heroin during this time. There are many other reputable sources to suggest that this marriage, and John in particular, was not healthy. This isn't Yoko bashing, but rather trying to use critical thinking and research to suss out the truth. As you say, John was dependent on a strong female figure in his life. I suggest reading May Pang's book (whom John was still in contact with during the so-called "baking bread" years) to start.
@@danielc1978 And it wasn't an "assassination." Lennon should have stayed with his family instead of abandoning them. He was especially cruel to Cynthia the way she came home to find Yoko wearing Cynthia's bathrobe sitting with John in the kitchen and Lennon launching an attack on Cynthia rather than try in anyway to console her. Karma might not be instant but it never loses an address. #1 72nd street.
He would have loved the internet.
I wonder how he would have coped with all the Yoko hate all over the net
I’m surprised he didn’t do tv to promote the album, but maybe was hesitant after years away from music.
Friend of Dorothy is just great, there's a version by Steffy Lennon on TH-cam, please listen to it, Help me to help myself and Now and then had also a great potential + the ones from Milk and Honey (I don't wanna face it, Stepping out, Grow old with me, etc), and don't forget that Free as a bird and Real love are Lennon songs... Not intended to be recorded by "The Beatles".
He was the best.
Should I read a biography before this book or go straight to this one?
@Mike The Psych, excellent question. I am getting ready to order this book as well. For me, the answer to your question depends on if you have already ready the beatles Biography, The Beatles - All These Years - Extended Special Edition: Volume One: Tune In. While this is only a partial review that extends to late 1962, it will give you a special appreciation for John’s early life growing up and his first years as a beatle. Mark is expected to release his Second Tome in 2024. That’s my two cents:) Good reading.
I think Double Fantasy wouldn't have been the hit, obviously if John hadn't died. The era of nostalgia came along during the nineties, and the eighties was all about moving onwards and upwards. Double Fantasy does have some good songs on John's behalf, but they are also rather conservative.
John also said he was going back home to Liverpool,telling family,as Julia said,she said it was about time he came home to look after the family.i would think he would of got back to his friendship with Paul,because they had known each other since they were kids,so who knows what would of happened,creamating John so quickly,no funeral,keeping Julian and other family members out of John's life,then saying to them that they had nothing to do with him,even though it was her fault,Dakota belonging to Julian,which he's intitled to get after she passed,which by the sounds of it won't be long.she used men,Tony Cox getting her out of the Japanese lunny bin,put in by her parents,sussing out London and trying to find John to fund her show,she ripped Julian and Cynthia off,keeping him away from Paul and everyone else,Fred seaman saying the marriage was bad,Ono preferring to be with another man,so easy to see who Sean's father is,Ono screached her way,no talent,using John.
Please don’t get confused
It’s Cynthia who was cruel to John
She cheated on him various times
She acted like she acted like she didn’t like bing in public eye but when she saw that John was happy with Yoko she started talking to the press trying to victimize herself
The most awful thing that she did besides cheating on John is that she poisoned Julian’s mind and because of her, he is always talking bad about Yoko, John and even about Sean
Because Julian is a Lennon, I really hope he goes to therapy so that he can become a better person
Cynthia was the true wich
In fact, I don’t have Facebook but I knew somebody who had Julian as a friend
This person told me that he finally saw how evil his mother was
Yoko on the other hand is a wonderful woman
I’am very proud of her and Sean for keeping John’s memory alive
Once more I ask you please don’t get confused by Cynthia’s dirty work
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You’re a looney!
@@stormbringercoming8105 I agree . "Oh no" is a talentless hack .
@@angiethebeatlesgirl228 There is absolutely no evidence Cynthia was cruel and cheated on John. Don’t spread falsehoods just because you are not a fan of someone.
@@drummer78you need to give that advice to all the Yoko haters because there is also no evidence that she missed treated John
In fact, there is lots of evidence that shows that they were a happy couple and I believe them
What Yoko feared the most about John was his desire to know Christ. John DID accept
Christ and the Father. This event is documented. She hated this because it exposed her
as a Witch and an Idol worshiper, who was also anti Christ, and a manipulator.
She went to great pains to talk him out of it, and eventually John gave in. At least, it APPEARED
that he gave in, but I believe he held on to his basic bedrock faith in Christ, without talking to her
about it. I dare say that John Lennon didn't cast aside the TRUTH so easily. It became part of him.
I can almost guarantee you that John cried out to Jesus, when he realized he had been shot. If he
did, he was instantly forgiven for his sins & taken up into heaven by the Angels of God!!
Every Believer in Christ should be praying for Yoko, that she will come to Christ and repent before
she passes away and its too late. She is almost out of time. She's 88 now, and not doing so well.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long suffering
toward us, not willing that ANY should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
I hope you're right.
Yes God Loves All! Yoko accept Jesus as your Savior & you WILL see GOD & John!
Lord help her & All others to come to you before it's too late. AMEN!
Christ is not the only way to enlightenment.
Christianity is a dying religion.
Fire and brimstone doesn't work anymore.
Isn't it enough "You" know CHRIST without being an obnoxious proselytizer .
Jesus pleaded love and then they made a religion out of it ,
millions dying in the name of hatred and devision ,distorting Christ's message of Love.
Long live love .
"Om Guru Deva ,nothing's going to change my world"
John Lennon
Across the universe
Hope Street of Dreams exists, Nov 1980 studio demo.........
Imagine John as Mayor of New York, N.Y.
I'm a huge Fan of Lennon , The Beatles and the Fab4 so this is what i think; Lennon was into anything and everything musical! So by 1990s He surely would got into HIP-HOP maybe even Rap Music sure would have written a few great songs and not sticking to Rock n Roll!! He liked to experiment new sounds and sure YOKO ONO would have stayed a huge influence on his music and songwritings!! Sure Human Rights and PEACE and LOVE would always be Central themes to HIM!!! And a Beatles Reunion for sure!! So all that was shot down by a crazy so called fan not a real fan but a so called fan a FAKE FAN shot Lennon in 1980!! RIP!!!
he planned ...1976 album,,,,Between The Lines,,he has about 25/30 finished demos,,they shud be released as a dubble album and boxset in 4 years...
Man, the reimagined john lennon Double Fantasy. S.oLo. !noyoko!. 14 song tracks. I fixed up. It sounds like you're interested? Oh and 5 bonus tracks!
I want to get this book but just got seamans book.
OMG, you guys side by side looks like a "then and now" of the same guy. O.o
When the Beatles broke up the public was hungry for anything from the individual Beatles. We wanted to hear John speaking in interviews, performing songs and creating recordings. All along that process Yoko insinuated herself sucking the joy out of listening to our beloved Beatle. She was a talentless hack who preyed upon John and assumed much of his identity trying to be relevant as a supposed "artist". Nobody asked her to interject herself into interviews or howl and cackle during John's performances or insist she get equal time on record. The Starting Over record should have been a dual disk with one of John and one of Yoko. But she pressured John to have alternating John/Yoko songs giving her more potential listens. People would have thrown out her album otherwise. Nobody in entertainment has created so much tension and anger than Yoko Ono.
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Please dont idealise Yoko or elevate her beyond the hard bitten reality. Yoko’s major contribution will be her participatory Dada art. Her approach was clever and deserves consideration. Her music, by contrast, doesn’t measure. Case in point- her 1973 solo record sold 8,000 units, which means it was a flop w a capital F. Part of her inability to appeal is her intractable Japanese accent. This limitation is not her fault; coming to English phonology via Japanese is incredibly difficult. Bottom line is that Yoko wouldn’t have moved the musical meter but for her association w JL. Her visual art was valid. In fact, an argument can be made that her non musical artistic status was damaged by the relationship
Double fantasy in retrospect is retro in style and production, the Goldman allegations seem more plausible, Lennon an unreliable source , the happy ever after vibe just looks thin.
I did not like double fantasy. There are good Lennon songs ,did not like yokos songs I took it back and traded it for abbey road.
Yoko haters out in full force on a video about remembering John’s final year and his songwriting. Typical.
For somebody who’s life work has been studying the life of John Lennon, you should know by now how yoko treated him and the affairs she had behind his back. Stop defending her.
And yes, yoko’s influence over John is what broke up the Beatles
Woman wud have imp sales of DF, also return to UK, Beate Reunion at Ringo wedding,,but his death increased sales,,,MH would have done well, 1982 may have been Beatle reunion, perfect timing,,,,also Leave Kitten Alone was meant to be released as a Beatle single in 1981,,,,
There’s NO WAY Double Fantasy would have been successful as it was after the horrible death! I thought I’d stop watching after this author said, I think, more successful.
Kkkkkkk his choice? So was his choice to treated Julian like he did? You must be slow.
Borrowed Time doc june,,hope it don't slag him off,,,,,,,,,,,,,
John was on some microbiotic diet towards the end of his life. The photos from that time make him look anorexic. That, plus his cigarette smoking, leads me to think he would have died in his forties from heart failure.
host wrong guest right learn difference murder and assassination please
The definition of ‘assassinate’ is to ‘murder (an important person) for political or religious reasons.’ Given that Mark Chapman admits he prayed to the Devil to give him strength to kill Lennon, I think a case could be made for the latter. Either way, a very sick man indeed.
Cant say i learned anything from this intv. Way too sanitized
I've been a big fan of The Beatles from their beginning. IMHO Double Fantasy could have been a far better album if J&Y kept the guys from Cheap Trick on the track. Double Fantasy was 'okay', nothing great about it. As for having to listen to her songs, my ears just don't want to ever do that. I don't think that album would have gone gold so fast had John not been killed.
Shut up about yoko! Just shut up!
you are full of information not