Wow. This described my journey from an abused child, bullied adult nurse, to finding my choices of self love and power to say, Enough! I will not continue this victim archetype; I made healthy choices for me and am learning so much. I have compassion for other women who are and have been going through this also. Thank you ❤️ I love to learn and look forward to more education.
@@meco4068 I second that. I worked as a Nursing Assistant for years and most hospitals and nursing homes have very toxic culture from the bottom employees to the top management. I had a nurse bully me and others, scream and shout, follow us around and always finding something wrong. One night she came behind me as I was clocking out and began yelling at me. I began crying and turned around and faced her and for the first time had the courage to face her. I told her Leave me alone, I have given 110% and if that’s not enough for you do it yourself. Surprise surprise she looked stunned. She said I am your elder. I told her then treat me like a person. She never bothered me again. And I had gone to my immediate supervisor and she didn’t do anything to help me. It seems they perpetuated that type of behavior and culture. Toxic people are everywhere in retail, in nursing homes and hospitals, in every work environment. The key is to know what you are able to tolerate and what you will not tolerate. Abuser is never going to be abusing you if you are strong and know your worth and don’t take their crap.
Thank you for sharing. I left nursing for 15 years because I felt it was abusive. I worked at Trader Joe's and absolutely loved it- no abuse at all! I went back to the hospital 6 months ago as a nurse, and it's traumatized me. Instead of walking out in the first week, I've frozen, thinking I don't have any other options, and I'm scared cause I'm single and feel alone. This pattern feels eerily familiar to how I dealt with life as a child. I'm in recovery, able I know I can't get out, but I'm shocked at myself for continuing to stay despite how abusive it is.
My heart was heavy tonight. It was for 9 hours. I wasted 9 hours on feeling like a victim. This video popped up out of no where. My heart is now open and I understand now. God Bless You.
I like to think that your time was not wasted, you (your inconscious) was processing something. It is hard to get out of these feelings, be gentle with yourself. Please.
I love that you started with the Victim. After many years of being stuck in what I called "victim mentality" (Ahh! Why is this happening to me!?"), realizing I have a choice really is empowering. Thank you for this offering, Caroline!
Yes! instead of asking “why is this happening to *me*?” I’ve learned from the victim archetype to say, “this is happening” and respond from there. These words can change my perspective in the worst situations. Ridding myself of the idea that ‘everything happens for a reason’ was the happiest day of my life.
@@clairesmusings I feel it still happens for a reason but to teach us something - not bc we did something wrong, but to bring us somewhere new, to teach us new skills and provide new experiences that get us closer to who we are meant to be
What a great message. I have done exactly what you described with my ex husband and daughter. Coming home and bulling them from the pain I am in. I am aware now. I pray one day as I grow to be whole and healthy my daughter will forgive me. I will keep working hard at changing. Thank you for this information.
I got out of a three year relationship with a psychopath. I eventually said to myself, “I’m not on this earth to be a victim. That isn’t my identity or my path”. It was extremely difficult to break away from the cycle, but I used my grit and curiosity to move forward into my own life…to find something new and better. Growing up, I wasn’t treated well by either of my divorced parents’ households; it was mostly a case of them being too busy to raise me or to connect with me. It was all about them, so my needs were not met except on a rather surface level. I also experienced a lot of trauma throughout my life. It sounds cliché, but learning to love yourself and set constructive boundaries for yourself is important for survival. I’m really enjoying this series! Fascinating, our human social development through these stories/archetypes.
I grew up with a mother who always played the victim .. her lack of self esteem ended up making everything about her. She’s 75 and still clings to this. Really draining for the people around her.
I'm going through the exact same experience with my mother! I've tried every response from patience, compassion to frustration but NOTHING is enough! I almost want to avoid her but know I can't!
I am discovering this movement personal power and owning ones own authority and not handing over power. Healing the subconscious mind.if you have CPTSD due to childhood trauma is the solution. People are mirrors showing us our fears and wounds. Trauma has a life of it's own let's heal the wounded child. I always felt less inferior and inadequate and the truth was it was all steming from trauma. I have the choice to heal and grow and keep growing.
I noticed a decided shift when I started to create pieces of artwork, something I had been putting off for a long time. Your explanation of how we move into creation and contribution rang many bells... thank you!
🙏🏻thank you so much for these! I am currently doing some heavy psychological cleaning. It is one of the most important lessons I’m learning right now! From Victim to Bully to Victorious! “I can protect myself” “I have the choice to respond” “I will engage courageously” “I refuse to react and bully others” Some of the affirmations I loved! Thank you again. Looking forward to others
Wow! If ever I felt like someone was speaking directly to me, today is the day. My purpose here on earth is to learn how to NOT be a victim. But, often $$ and cents keep people stuck in the victim role. I've fallen in and out of this role all my life, especially being an introvert/empath.....maybe they go hand in hand? this is what I would call a 'light bulb' moment.
I love that you touch on our capacity to choose! Our conscious shift in seeing ourself as a volunteer and no only a victim! Also to understand our journey on the spectrum of the polarity of victim / perpetrator and that we can remember times we straddled both and in that knowing we can hold space for the suffering we incur of living in either polarity and this allows empathy and service for the greater good. No longer residing in separateness but creating more unity in the world🫶🏼 Thank you!
I refused to admit I was a victim - when I owned my power and inner love and inner peace I just left and chose loving people, with forgivness because I understood I was ok with being victimized cos it was what I knew no ones fault.
Caroline, you nailed it! Thank you forr this blessing. This is exactly the schoolroom I'm in right now. I'm getting the movement through the chakras in the Buddha's teachings much more deeply. Every time I turn to face the lesson and embody it more fully the more is revealed. Your message today gives me a little more breathing room as I once again step into what feels so impossibly difficult, praying again and again for Grace
I definitely am co-creating with the TH-cam algorithms because I am in the midst of shedding this archetype and here’s the video! I have done so much work on this stuff but recently I realised I chose this and I can change it. And my whole world changed in that instant. Thank you ❤
Thank you much for this offering. I have studied your work very closely and am deeply empowered by the light you shine on our path. So I found a sublime way of encountering the victim inside or outside myself. I stay still with prayer and my fears and feelings become like a powerful snake that I allow to swallow me whole….. To my constant delight ….I am whole. Now from this timeless knowing, I come back and reorient myself to seeing where contribution and love is rather than where it isn’t. Such an important and empowering choice.
I absolutely love your work! ❤️ As a therapist, I am wondering how we might address the Victim in relation to the very real issues of mass income inequality and poverty? So many are unable to access resources such as healthcare, quality food, and housing. Therefore, this drastically limits many healthy choices people might want to make for themselves if they had the means to do it.
Or health problems. I have lost so much of my quality of life to a misdiagnosis from doctors. It took a good 15 years of my life and I am still suffering to this day from chronic complex pain as a result of the misdiagnosis. Outside of pushing myself to work I spend the majority of my life in bed. It is really hard to feel empowered in this situation. When you are healthy and well (I had five days of it in 15 years) you feel so empowered. I am writing this from bed exhausted and off work because I can’t function.
I take it your not in the US. Obamacare created healthcare for all and food stamps and food banks are in the US. I know some republican states residents did not get the health care for all of Obamacare. So people do have to pay for shelter or wait a long time for section 8 in the US.
@@lesliewinchester8225 I do live in the US and I am blessed to pay and qualify for Obamacare for myself. As a professional and person, I was so happy when it was passed. I could finally help more of my patients get needed medication and services that they could to pay for. It finally made healthcare more affordable for people here. Prior to Obamacare, most people didn't qualify for Medicaid (not Obamacare which people pay for) unless you had children. If not, there wasn't insurance that working people could afford individually unless it was provided by your employer. And although we have Obamacare there is a financial cutoff where get dropped and you have to pay full price for your Healthcare. For an individual from my state that is about $51,000. After that you pay full price about $460 a month plus co-pays and high deductibles. So we have many people who start to do a little better and then lose their healthcare. Or if you lose your job, you lose your healthcare. We live in the richest country ever in the history of the world and we are the only ones not to guaranty some type of universal healthcare to our people. Approximately 48,000 people die each year from being uninsured or underinsured. Many US citizens have to ration insulin which often leads to death. We have many people who can't afford our prescriptions due to price gouging from large Pharma. We pay the highest price for medication anywhere because companies aren't regulated. As for food stamps (SNAP), the pandemic benefits will be over on 5/11/23 because the pandemic is deemed over. People will lose at least approximately $100 dollars in that support. We had the child tax credit during the pandemic, which drastically reduced childhood hunger and that was taken away from us. So currently 1 in 8 of our children are going hungry in the USA. We can do better for our People. Medical Debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US. Our People are really struggling with the lack of social support system. The system is rigged in favor of the elites and corporations. I really wish it wasn't this way. Unfortunately, this is the state of our nation.
I lived homeless out of my car for over a year in a cycle of poverty and survival with no health care, car ins, anything. It took me suffering so deeply from that that I made a choice to leave that reality and do whatever it took to create the life I actually desired. It was a simple but powerful “I’m done living like this” and every though and action became about being secure within myself
I love these talks, thank you. I heard you speak in Brisbane in the 90’s. Coming back to this is a full circle experience, and very much appreciated. 🙏
'' Everything that we feel inside has a charge, a frequency, so what we call the “negative qualities” or the distortions, they also have a charge. They are almost like a habit that we have. '' - Andrew Kenneth Fretwell (from his book Emotional Alchemy: The Love and Freedom Hidden Within Painful Feelings)
Thank you, Caroline! Words cannot express how much I appreciate your knowledge and guidance and journey through the archetypes. I am so grateful that you are taking time out of your schedule to offer this "mini" course. It truly is a gift.
Hi. I discovered your channel in my recommendations, and I am enjoying your content a lot. I appreciate the different perspectives you bring to mind. So thank you for your videos! I identify with the archetype of the victim in a profound way as I have always wished for being someone else than myself from primary school years on. I was bullied for 10 years, and have a mother that suffers from severe depression and behaves like a covert narcissist. I have lived through life comparing myself constantly and feeling less as, because I don't feel like I have anything special to offer. I stopped to identify my value through my skills, but I shifted to something else, I don't seem to live up with to, which is what I am doing with my life. That's where I truly feel victimized, not even the shitty childhood anymore, but just feeling stuck in the present. I decided to move to Berlin a few years ago to go about another vocational training and change my life path as I felt dissatisfied with my previous career. It wasn't just about the training, it was about what the city had to offer. All those different activities, options and different meetups that would allow my socially awkward and insecure self to take little steps towards socializing with different people and developing some social skills. I have battled my social anxiety the years before then, and I feel empowered in the sense of having been able to develop into a more confident version of myself on my own. But when the pandemic hit, which wasn't too long after my relocation to Berlin, I felt robbed of this opportunity as I didn't have the financial stability to continue staying there without a part-time job which was impossible to find and arrange with the times of my apprenticeship caused by the circumstances. I tried to move to Lisbon after the pandemic calmed down as I am tired of the cold weather of Germany and still had the wish to go back to an environment of possibilities, but the company that was offering a relocation to Lisbon fooled me and I am somewhere further away from Lisbon that makes it difficult to make friends and form connections as nothing is going on in the small town I am at. And that's a constant condition. I am mostly in small town environments without any opportunities for growth in the areas of life I would like to grow as a person. Even when I make choices that feel like I am getting closer to what I know is good for me, something happens. That's why I feel like life is against me, and it's hard to just shake it off and accept that this version of my life that I detest is all I've got and that I must embrace nothing. Because it means absolutely nothing to me, except for my health. I can't feel proud of living this life, nor can I feel joy of small town boredom. I am surely ungrateful, but I don't know how to feel differently about this, if I feel so powerless in creating a life I wish I would be able to experience in this brief time I've got to experience what life has to offer. Often, I turn into thoughts of huge rage and have the desire to end my life, because I don't have it in me in accepting what I am and what my life is about. It's nothing and there is nothing I can do to shape it into the version I wish my life to be. Not even a glimpse. It's seems impossible and I don't know how to feel satisfied with living a life that will never take me to those places and are just random occurrences life throws my way. I have been there. In that place of rage, where I just want to hurt somebody, make someone feel as miserable as I feel. But I don't have it in my yet. I don't choose to be nice and empower others through my words anymore either, but my life won't get better in destroying someone else's either, and I know that. I don't wish for more pain in this world. This world has enough of that. But I fucking hate my life and myself and I feel like there is no future anymore. I used to have so much hope and fought to become better and heal and stuff, but the struggle never stops and my dreams seem further away than ever. How do you find back to hope, when you lost your strength to fight?
Dear Caroline, this has been the more mature and deep presentation of archetypes. Thank you! It is especially important after the covid crisis and during the financial one coming. Hope you can wake up many people to the truth and fight against tyranny (the technological one is totalitarian).
Such a powerful message, Caroline. Thank you. I’m sharing this with my loved ones including my teenage girls. The earlier you understand this, the better off you’ll be.
Thanks so much. One of those moments where they algorithm throws out the thing that I need when I need it. I've been working through a lifetime of hiding from this archetype through to accepting it recently and now at the tail end of it. I very much identify with what you say. The thing I'm struggling with now is to control the level at which I protect myself. I've realised I've got the power to do this but I have to make a leap to get there and at that point I'm already very forceful. I also have to struggle against the feeling of power it gives me when I see people back down.
Because I just have not known how to break out of this , I isolated and now it's just me. People think you can just shut this off after years of abuse from before I can remember . Isolation was not a good way to go and now at 59 in feel pretty screwed , depleted and want out and am tired of feeling embarrassed for falling into this mentality. Those of us who are seemingly stuck in this neec compassion not shame and 'pull up your boot strap " crap.
Crap... I'm 60 and don't believe I've got to take this on. I'm isolated, too. .. screwed deplated also I'll text back and can't write anymore right now
Wow!! Your video showed in my feeder. I applaud you to describe this victim arque type concise and precise. We all, in one way or another have been victimized by many types of circumstances who made us feel as victims, but as you said, is the attitude we have toward those circumstances the one that help us either use those circumstances to transform and empower ourselves or stay down where the circumstances put us and never evolve…this is a lesson I’m trying to teach my 10 year old son: BS will happen in our lives all the time, but is our attitude that makes the difference. Don’t be Pikachu ( that never wanted to evolve) , be like charmander that in each battle it evolved until it converted in mega charizard 😂. I will watch your other videos❤
I’d like to hear more about the bully aspect of the victim. I’ve been bullied before by people who pretend to be weak to others. It seems they target people who stand in their power, I think it’s very interesting.
Such a great topic, it's such conscious perception, I can see within myself how this plays out! Thank you Caroline! Bring on the Series! Super excited to follow!
Carolyn poignantly, powerfully beautifully, profoundly and succinctly done. Thank you from the very depths of my Soul for this. I spreading the word and sharing it others.
Thank you. I've never heard this kind of message so clear, so simple. When I start thinking about all the situations and experience of victimhood, my life journey starts to make much more sense and I feel it becomes much more meaningful and inspiring. I wish you all the best!
Learned about the archetypes through Caroline’s book : Archetype’s: Which one are you ? Very good book and this is so awesome that she is offering a taste of what she can share on archetypes and how it relates to all of us . Caroline has been one of master teachers for many years and I have gained so much insight to managing life events with compassion and understanding, As well as a Birds Eye view into the spirit world. Thank you Caroline for being the amazing person that you are ❤
I feel seen and understood. I felt offended when I saw the title but I am glad that i got pass the title to dig in and not be a victim. In my journey I have been a bully in certain ways, I am also a defender of anyone from a bully because I was bullied in and outside of the home. I am so glad that I gave this video a chance for what it gave me.
Thank you, from the deepest of my heart for these powerful teachings ! I can't wait to hear about the addict archetype, I'm trying desperately to quit smoking and I've been searching for a long time where it was coming from. I've explored the traumas, my inner children, shadow work, and got rid of many addictions, but this one seems pretty difficult... is it a matter of a weak willpower ? Thank you again and god bless you !
We see the victim archetype a lot in toxic celebrity culture and instagram influencers, where they put out this big dramatic weepy video of how they have been victimized, and they have all these followers and it ends up glorifying being a victim and staying stuck there. Why change if we get all sorts of attention from people, everyone feels bad for us when we are the victim.
I think that is partbof the process. Either they are just "acting" as victims or they are attention whores which is another addiction. If people IGNORED this wouldn't be an issue. I no longer respond to bad behavior its too much energy and only furthers my ire.
Thank you so much and I recognize it so well and then after many rough years I choosed to take my power back💪🏼🙏🦋 Thank you so much and much love from Sweden and we are doing this together 🥰✨🙏♥️🦋🌸☘️🇸🇪🌍💃🏻🥂🍾♥️
Loved you since I saw you live outside Boston so many years ago! ( a presentation with an old fashioned overhead projector! 😅) Thank you for continuing to carry the flame and inspire.
Wow. This described my journey from an abused child, bullied adult nurse, to finding my choices of self love and power to say, Enough! I will not continue this victim archetype; I made healthy choices for me and am learning so much. I have compassion for other women who are and have been going through this also. Thank you ❤️ I love to learn and look forward to more education.
Love that you specifically mention being a nurse. I'm with you there. Nursing/hospitals can be so toxic. Keep fighting the good fight! 🙏
@@meco4068 I second that. I worked as a Nursing Assistant for years and most hospitals and nursing homes have very toxic culture from the bottom employees to the top management. I had a nurse bully me and others, scream and shout, follow us around and always finding something wrong. One night she came behind me as I was clocking out and began yelling at me. I began crying and turned around and faced her and for the first time had the courage to face her. I told her Leave me alone, I have given 110% and if that’s not enough for you do it yourself. Surprise surprise she looked stunned. She said I am your elder. I told her then treat me like a person. She never bothered me again. And
I had gone to my immediate supervisor and she didn’t do anything to help me. It seems they perpetuated that type of behavior and culture. Toxic people are everywhere in retail, in nursing homes and hospitals, in every work environment. The key is to know what you are able to tolerate and what you will not tolerate. Abuser is never going to be abusing you if you are strong and know your worth and don’t take their crap.
Thank you for sharing. I left nursing for 15 years because I felt it was abusive. I worked at Trader Joe's and absolutely loved it- no abuse at all! I went back to the hospital 6 months ago as a nurse, and it's traumatized me. Instead of walking out in the first week, I've frozen, thinking I don't have any other options, and I'm scared cause I'm single and feel alone. This pattern feels eerily familiar to how I dealt with life as a child. I'm in recovery, able I know I can't get out, but I'm shocked at myself for continuing to stay despite how abusive it is.
Same. Don’t want to be this
My mother, a nurse, was a bully narcissist.
" The journey of life is about discovering that you are an engine of co-creation " -what a powerful comment, thank you !
The ‘jewel in the victim archetype’ is the realisation that you are not powerless. What an amazing insight! Thank you Caroline Myss!
My heart was heavy tonight. It was for 9 hours. I wasted 9 hours on feeling like a victim. This video popped up out of no where. My heart is now open and I understand now. God Bless You.
I like to think that your time was not wasted, you (your inconscious) was processing something. It is hard to get out of these feelings, be gentle with yourself. Please.
@@AngrenHeryn what an insightful, compassionate perspective. So many people, myself included, can relate ♥
@@Emalani Thank you so much ! This is what I have fou de through my own struggles. So happy This can serve you.
I love that you started with the Victim. After many years of being stuck in what I called "victim mentality" (Ahh! Why is this happening to me!?"), realizing I have a choice really is empowering. Thank you for this offering, Caroline!
Yes! instead of asking “why is this happening to *me*?” I’ve learned from the victim archetype to say, “this is happening” and respond from there. These words can change my perspective in the worst situations. Ridding myself of the idea that ‘everything happens for a reason’ was the happiest day of my life.
@@clairesmusings I feel it still happens for a reason but to teach us something - not bc we did something wrong, but to bring us somewhere new, to teach us new skills and provide new experiences that get us closer to who we are meant to be
Power does come from within. But when one is traumatized, then the trauma needs healing first.
You heal the trauma by realizing that. But realizing for real, just to read it somewhere is not enough.
What a great message. I have done exactly what you described with my ex husband and daughter. Coming home and bulling them from the pain I am in. I am aware now. I pray one day as I grow to be whole and healthy my daughter will forgive me. I will keep working hard at changing. Thank you for this information.
I got out of a three year relationship with a psychopath. I eventually said to myself, “I’m not on this earth to be a victim. That isn’t my identity or my path”. It was extremely difficult to break away from the cycle, but I used my grit and curiosity to move forward into my own life…to find something new and better. Growing up, I wasn’t treated well by either of my divorced parents’ households; it was mostly a case of them being too busy to raise me or to connect with me. It was all about them, so my needs were not met except on a rather surface level. I also experienced a lot of trauma throughout my life. It sounds cliché, but learning to love yourself and set constructive boundaries for yourself is important for survival.
I’m really enjoying this series! Fascinating, our human social development through these stories/archetypes.
Wow. I don't think I've ever hung onto someone's every word so much. What an amazing teacher.
I grew up with a mother who always played the victim .. her lack of self esteem ended up making everything about her. She’s 75 and still clings to this. Really draining for the people around her.
I'm going through the exact same experience with my mother! I've tried every response from patience, compassion to frustration but NOTHING is enough! I almost want to avoid her but know I can't!
@@harmonismith3569Sometimes going no contact is the only way to
I am discovering this movement personal power and owning ones own authority and not handing over power. Healing the subconscious mind.if you have CPTSD due to childhood trauma is the solution. People are mirrors showing us our fears and wounds. Trauma has a life of it's own let's heal the wounded child. I always felt less inferior and inadequate and the truth was it was all steming from trauma. I have the choice to heal and grow and keep growing.
Self love set me free. Never give up on yourself 💚
You’re the jewel Carolyn Myss Sent to be a powerful teacher and help with our evolution
I noticed a decided shift when I started to create pieces of artwork, something I had been putting off for a long time. Your explanation of how we move into creation and contribution rang many bells... thank you!
This is the sort of esoteric knowledge the planet can grow with ❤️
Esoteric: Intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest.
@@modvs1 Mystical
🙏🏻thank you so much for these! I am currently doing some heavy psychological cleaning. It is one of the most important lessons I’m learning right now!
From Victim to Bully to Victorious!
“I can protect myself”
“I have the choice to respond”
“I will engage courageously”
“I refuse to react and bully others”
Some of the affirmations I loved! Thank you again. Looking forward to others
love this thank you I'm writing these steps down.
Wow! If ever I felt like someone was speaking directly to me, today is the day. My purpose here on earth is to learn how to NOT be a victim. But, often $$ and cents keep people stuck in the victim role. I've fallen in and out of this role all my life, especially being an introvert/empath.....maybe they go hand in hand? this is what I would call a 'light bulb' moment.
I love that you touch on our capacity to choose! Our conscious shift in seeing ourself as a volunteer and no only a victim! Also to understand our journey on the spectrum of the polarity of victim / perpetrator and that we can remember times we straddled both and in that knowing we can hold space for the suffering we incur of living in either polarity and this allows empathy and service for the greater good. No longer residing in separateness but creating more unity in the world🫶🏼 Thank you!
Beautifully said🙏❤
Thank you Caroline, for all of this, absolute treasures
I refused to admit I was a victim - when I owned my power and inner love and inner peace I just left and chose loving people, with forgivness because I understood I was ok with being victimized cos it was what I knew no ones fault.
Thank you Caroline. May God Bless you 😍
Beautifully clear and explained with compassion. Thank you
Absolutely solid, informed, generous, cosmic guidance. Thank you!
Caroline, you nailed it! Thank you forr this blessing. This is exactly the schoolroom I'm in right now. I'm getting the movement through the chakras in the Buddha's teachings much more deeply. Every time I turn to face the lesson and embody it more fully the more is revealed.
Your message today gives me a little more breathing room as I once again step into what feels so impossibly difficult, praying again and again for Grace
Thank you for clarifying our Soul's Journey. May you receive all you need to support your work, for the well-being of all. Blessings! ✨🙏✨
Thank you so much, Caroline, for your generous and hopeful work.
thank you. Understanding victim mentality was everywhere when growing up. Bullies that were out for revenge. I was no better yet didn't know if.
I definitely am co-creating with the TH-cam algorithms because I am in the midst of shedding this archetype and here’s the video! I have done so much work on this stuff but recently I realised I chose this and I can change it. And my whole world changed in that instant. Thank you ❤
Thank you much for this offering. I have studied your work very closely and am deeply empowered by the light you shine on our path. So I found a sublime way of encountering the victim inside or outside myself. I stay still with prayer and my fears and feelings become like a powerful snake that I allow to swallow me whole….. To my constant delight ….I am whole. Now from this timeless knowing, I come back and reorient myself to seeing where contribution and love is rather than where it isn’t. Such an important and empowering choice.
Thank you so much for your teachings. 🙏
Thorough, compact, complete, explanation of the Victim! Bravo Carolyn🙂
Thank you, Caroline, for clarifying the dimensions of the victim archetype and how we can use it to grow.
I absolutely love your work! ❤️
As a therapist, I am wondering how we might address the Victim in relation to the very real issues of mass income inequality and poverty? So many are unable to access resources such as healthcare, quality food, and housing. Therefore, this drastically limits many healthy choices people might want to make for themselves if they had the means to do it.
Or health problems. I have lost so much of my quality of life to a misdiagnosis from doctors. It took a good 15 years of my life and I am still suffering to this day from chronic complex pain as a result of the misdiagnosis. Outside of pushing myself to work I spend the majority of my life in bed. It is really hard to feel empowered in this situation. When you are healthy and well (I had five days of it in 15 years) you feel so empowered. I am writing this from bed exhausted and off work because I can’t function.
I take it your not in the US. Obamacare created healthcare for all and food stamps and food banks are in the US. I know some republican states residents did not get the health care for all of Obamacare. So people do have to pay for shelter or wait a long time for section 8 in the US.
@@lesliewinchester8225 I do live in the US and I am blessed to pay and qualify for Obamacare for myself. As a professional and person, I was so happy when it was passed. I could finally help more of my patients get needed medication and services that they could to pay for. It finally made healthcare more affordable for people here.
Prior to Obamacare, most people didn't qualify for Medicaid (not Obamacare which people pay for) unless you had children. If not, there wasn't insurance that working people could afford individually unless it was provided by your employer. And although we have Obamacare there is a financial cutoff where get dropped and you have to pay full price for your Healthcare. For an individual from my state that is about $51,000. After that you pay full price about $460 a month plus co-pays and high deductibles. So we have many people who start to do a little better and then lose their healthcare. Or if you lose your job, you lose your healthcare. We live in the richest country ever in the history of the world and we are the only ones not to guaranty some type of universal healthcare to our people. Approximately 48,000 people die each year from being uninsured or underinsured. Many US citizens have to ration insulin which often leads to death. We have many people who can't afford our prescriptions due to price gouging from large Pharma. We pay the highest price for medication anywhere because companies aren't regulated.
As for food stamps (SNAP), the pandemic benefits will be over on 5/11/23 because the pandemic is deemed over. People will lose at least approximately $100 dollars in that support. We had the child tax credit during the pandemic, which drastically reduced childhood hunger and that was taken away from us. So currently 1 in 8 of our children are going hungry in the USA. We can do better for our People.
Medical Debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in the US. Our People are really struggling with the lack of social support system. The system is rigged in favor of the elites and corporations. I really wish it wasn't this way. Unfortunately, this is the state of our nation.
I lived homeless out of my car for over a year in a cycle of poverty and survival with no health care, car ins, anything. It took me suffering so deeply from that that I made a choice to leave that reality and do whatever it took to create the life I actually desired. It was a simple but powerful “I’m done living like this” and every though and action became about being secure within myself
I love these talks, thank you. I heard you speak in Brisbane in the 90’s. Coming back to this is a full circle experience, and very much appreciated. 🙏
Thank you, Caroline! Bless you! 💖
'' Everything that we feel inside has a charge, a frequency, so what we call the “negative qualities” or the distortions, they also have a charge. They are almost like a habit that we have. '' - Andrew Kenneth Fretwell (from his book Emotional Alchemy: The Love and Freedom Hidden Within Painful Feelings)
Interesting. Thank you. I'll be getting this book.
Thank you, Caroline! Words cannot express how much I appreciate your knowledge and guidance and journey through the archetypes. I am so grateful that you are taking time out of your schedule to offer this "mini" course. It truly is a gift.
Hi. I discovered your channel in my recommendations, and I am enjoying your content a lot. I appreciate the different perspectives you bring to mind. So thank you for your videos! I identify with the archetype of the victim in a profound way as I have always wished for being someone else than myself from primary school years on. I was bullied for 10 years, and have a mother that suffers from severe depression and behaves like a covert narcissist. I have lived through life comparing myself constantly and feeling less as, because I don't feel like I have anything special to offer. I stopped to identify my value through my skills, but I shifted to something else, I don't seem to live up with to, which is what I am doing with my life. That's where I truly feel victimized, not even the shitty childhood anymore, but just feeling stuck in the present. I decided to move to Berlin a few years ago to go about another vocational training and change my life path as I felt dissatisfied with my previous career. It wasn't just about the training, it was about what the city had to offer. All those different activities, options and different meetups that would allow my socially awkward and insecure self to take little steps towards socializing with different people and developing some social skills. I have battled my social anxiety the years before then, and I feel empowered in the sense of having been able to develop into a more confident version of myself on my own. But when the pandemic hit, which wasn't too long after my relocation to Berlin, I felt robbed of this opportunity as I didn't have the financial stability to continue staying there without a part-time job which was impossible to find and arrange with the times of my apprenticeship caused by the circumstances.
I tried to move to Lisbon after the pandemic calmed down as I am tired of the cold weather of Germany and still had the wish to go back to an environment of possibilities, but the company that was offering a relocation to Lisbon fooled me and I am somewhere further away from Lisbon that makes it difficult to make friends and form connections as nothing is going on in the small town I am at. And that's a constant condition. I am mostly in small town environments without any opportunities for growth in the areas of life I would like to grow as a person. Even when I make choices that feel like I am getting closer to what I know is good for me, something happens. That's why I feel like life is against me, and it's hard to just shake it off and accept that this version of my life that I detest is all I've got and that I must embrace nothing. Because it means absolutely nothing to me, except for my health. I can't feel proud of living this life, nor can I feel joy of small town boredom. I am surely ungrateful, but I don't know how to feel differently about this, if I feel so powerless in creating a life I wish I would be able to experience in this brief time I've got to experience what life has to offer. Often, I turn into thoughts of huge rage and have the desire to end my life, because I don't have it in me in accepting what I am and what my life is about. It's nothing and there is nothing I can do to shape it into the version I wish my life to be. Not even a glimpse. It's seems impossible and I don't know how to feel satisfied with living a life that will never take me to those places and are just random occurrences life throws my way.
I have been there. In that place of rage, where I just want to hurt somebody, make someone feel as miserable as I feel. But I don't have it in my yet. I don't choose to be nice and empower others through my words anymore either, but my life won't get better in destroying someone else's either, and I know that. I don't wish for more pain in this world. This world has enough of that. But I fucking hate my life and myself and I feel like there is no future anymore. I used to have so much hope and fought to become better and heal and stuff, but the struggle never stops and my dreams seem further away than ever. How do you find back to hope, when you lost your strength to fight?
Dear Caroline, this has been the more mature and deep presentation of archetypes. Thank you! It is especially important after the covid crisis and during the financial one coming. Hope you can wake up many people to the truth and fight against tyranny (the technological one is totalitarian).
Very relevant for me right now. Thank you Caroline. I always enjoy your teachings.
breathtaking. thank you so much, caroline. you've opened my eyes to so much
Such a powerful message, Caroline. Thank you. I’m sharing this with my loved ones including my teenage girls. The earlier you understand this, the better off you’ll be.
Caroline Myss you are amazing.
Power does come from within . If it would be different I would not manage alone in so many adverse situations.
This is such a jewel. Thank you
Yes, finally someone explaining the archetypes in a way that is useful information for everyone, specially each one. Thank you!
Thanks so much. One of those moments where they algorithm throws out the thing that I need when I need it. I've been working through a lifetime of hiding from this archetype through to accepting it recently and now at the tail end of it.
I very much identify with what you say. The thing I'm struggling with now is to control the level at which I protect myself. I've realised I've got the power to do this but I have to make a leap to get there and at that point I'm already very forceful. I also have to struggle against the feeling of power it gives me when I see people back down.
Thank you, Caroline and team!
Wow Carolyn ! I’ve never heard the Victim Archetype explained so well ❣️Thank You
Thank you Caroline. I've been a student of yours for many years and I so much enjoy being able to see your teachings and hear your voice. ❤️
Brilliant teacher, in my experience of Carolyn Myss. ❤
Thank you for this! It’s just what I needed to hear at the right time. Thank you for explaining how to work with this archetype from both sides. 🙏🏻
Thanks Carolyn for your wonderful sharing!
Because I just have not known how to break out of this , I isolated and now it's just me. People think you can just shut this off after years of abuse from before I can remember . Isolation was not a good way to go and now at 59 in feel pretty screwed , depleted and want out and am tired of feeling embarrassed for falling into this mentality. Those of us who are seemingly stuck in this neec compassion not shame and 'pull up your boot strap " crap.
Crap... I'm 60 and don't believe I've got to take this on. I'm isolated, too. .. screwed deplated also
I'll text back and can't write anymore right now
I CANNOT believe you don't have more subscribers. I've read a book or two of yours, IT REALLY RESONATES. Thank you!!!!
Thank you and bless you.
Thank you Caroline, Just what I needed to hear, yep I really didn't want to admit it.
Wow!! Your video showed in my feeder. I applaud you to describe this victim arque type concise and precise. We all, in one way or another have been victimized by many types of circumstances who made us feel as victims, but as you said, is the attitude we have toward those circumstances the one that help us either use those circumstances to transform and empower ourselves or stay down where the circumstances put us and never evolve…this is a lesson I’m trying to teach my 10 year old son: BS will happen in our lives all the time, but is our attitude that makes the difference. Don’t be Pikachu ( that never wanted to evolve) , be like charmander that in each battle it evolved until it converted in mega charizard 😂. I will watch your other videos❤
❤ to you Dr. Myss. Thank you for sharing your curiosity with us🙏🤲💪
I’d like to hear more about the bully aspect of the victim. I’ve been bullied before by people who pretend to be weak to others. It seems they target people who stand in their power, I think it’s very interesting.
Thank you so much for this videos. I’m looking forward the next one. Blessings dear Caroline ✨💖✨
I’m so moved by this knowledge. Life changing. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing! I will look forward to the next ones coming up. Thank you!
Such a great topic, it's such conscious perception, I can see within myself how this plays out! Thank you Caroline! Bring on the Series! Super excited to follow!
She is seriously a gem in this world. I don't know what I would do without her teachings. Also, she is stunning
Thank you so much! I enjoy and appreciate how you present this very necessary information!
Carolyn poignantly, powerfully beautifully, profoundly and succinctly done. Thank you from the very depths of my Soul for this. I spreading the word and sharing it others.
Thanks you Caroline❣
Oh my goodness I LOVE the way you speak on the idea of archtypes!
Thank you so much
Yes! On point! Thank you!
Thank you, Caroline!
Gorgeous and so accessible. Can't wait to listen to more! ☺️❤️
Thank you Caroline 🙏
Thank you for the enlightenment ❤
Thank you so much this has helped me immensely ❤
Oh my! ❤ So beautiful!!!!
Thank you!! ❤️
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us, I find your videos so engaging 💙
thank you miss myss. i appreciate these to deepen my study
Wow. Thank you for this.
Thank you 🙏 it makes so much sense!
Wow. Applicable on so many levels! Connects to multiple chapters in my life. And … happens to be a compelling argument in favor of veganism
This is terrific! Thank you so much for this wisdom! 🙏🏻✨
I'm so into this journey!!! Thank you for this series!
Thank you. I've never heard this kind of message so clear, so simple. When I start thinking about all the situations and experience of victimhood, my life journey starts to make much more sense and I feel it becomes much more meaningful and inspiring. I wish you all the best!
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This was so enlightening & empowering
Thankyou Caroline ❤🙏❤ know thyself
Thank you very much!
Learned about the archetypes through Caroline’s book : Archetype’s: Which one are you ? Very good book and this is so awesome that she is offering a taste of what she can share on archetypes and how it relates to all of us . Caroline has been one of master teachers for many years and I have gained so much insight to managing life events with compassion and understanding, As well as a Birds Eye view into the spirit world. Thank you Caroline for being the amazing person that you are ❤
well explained Caroline! Thank you for your dedication and contributions to our evolution in consciousness!
This is amazing! Thank you 🙏
I feel seen and understood. I felt offended when I saw the title but I am glad that i got pass the title to dig in and not be a victim. In my journey I have been a bully in certain ways, I am also a defender of anyone from a bully because I was bullied in and outside of the home. I am so glad that I gave this video a chance for what it gave me.
Thank you, Caroline! I absolutely love these archetype videos! So helpful! ❤
Thank you, from the deepest of my heart for these powerful teachings ! I can't wait to hear about the addict archetype, I'm trying desperately to quit smoking and I've been searching for a long time where it was coming from. I've explored the traumas, my inner children, shadow work, and got rid of many addictions, but this one seems pretty difficult... is it a matter of a weak willpower ? Thank you again and god bless you !
We see the victim archetype a lot in toxic celebrity culture and instagram influencers, where they put out this big dramatic weepy video of how they have been victimized, and they have all these followers and it ends up glorifying being a victim and staying stuck there. Why change if we get all sorts of attention from people, everyone feels bad for us when we are the victim.
I think that is partbof the process. Either they are just "acting" as victims or they are attention whores which is another addiction. If people IGNORED this wouldn't be an issue. I no longer respond to bad behavior its too much energy and only furthers my ire.
Thank you so much for your on line teachings.I love you .Sending blessings from the Holy Land Israel.
thanks,this is great!!!!
Thank you so much and I recognize it so well and then after many rough years I choosed to take my power back💪🏼🙏🦋
Thank you so much and much love from Sweden and we are doing this together 🥰✨🙏♥️🦋🌸☘️🇸🇪🌍💃🏻🥂🍾♥️
Loved you since I saw you live outside Boston so many years ago! ( a presentation with an old fashioned overhead projector! 😅) Thank you for continuing to carry the flame and inspire.
Thanks for these! Perfecto!