My personal opinion is that we need to give Scorsese's newer films more time before we can say whether or not they hold up against his older ones. In the ten years since The Departed came out, from my perspective, it seems like it has been getting more praise than it initially did. We call classic movies "classics" because they stood the test of time. I can't wait to see what people are saying about these films another decade or two down the line
It's been maybe 15 years but honestly this is overrated AF. The middle of the film is basically the same as Infernal Affairs, but the first third of the film has so many jump cuts it ceases to be enjoyable. Even the part that basically leans heavily on Infernal Affairs isn't all that. Which is forgivable if it's original material but not when it's rehashing. This film deserves to be a lot better. Taking a strong concept like Infernal Affairs, you should be able to focus on what to add, but somehow this film mostly detracts.
@@TequilaToothpick Though I’m not big on the Departed and find it a little nonsensical in places, I do quite like Infernal Affairs - the ending I find especially haunting and memorable (only seen the first one). I don’t think it’s a perfect film or anything, but can I ask why you dislike it?
The Scorsese version is really overrated. Less of a film, more of a flickbook, if you can imagine the nightmare of being stuck watching a flickbook for two and a half hours!
Completely disagree with Kermode's comment that it won't stick with audiences, DiCaprio also didn't get a mention, who for my money gives the best performance in the entire film.
Mark has his opinion but it a beautifully poetic piece Martin goes back into his sand box and draws a cast together that match and stand tall against all his other great pieces be they knights or rooks . The king here though is the masterful Jack Nicholson who with De caprio Damon Wahlberg Farmiga Baldwin Sheen and Ray Winstone to name few , all act their socks off to the direction of Scorcese whom they clearly love , and why not, his movies are the who's who of brand name films . This movie stands along side those movies with ease with gritty emotional tense performances and it's hard to find any actor who fails to deliver . Mark kermode wasn't phased because he is immune but modern classic is a good way to describe this movie .
@robaquarian the reason he got Oscar nominated is because when he is off screen we really notice he is off screen, his lines are made even better by his delivery.
Not sure how this film could NOT stick with you. I've never seen a slicker, tenser, more satisfying thriller. And that includes Infernal Affairs. 20 years down the line I'd wouldn't be surprised if people regard it as Scorceses best.
great film. It's no Infernal Affairs, and it's certainly no Goodfellas, Mean Streets etc. but I did like it. There's plenty in it that to me was clearly played for laughs. Wahlberg was very funny I think. I would say though that Matt Damon and Leo DiCaprio were the only character's that seemed "real" to me I agree that it is Martin Scorcese light and I certainly do't think it's a masterpiece but it is a very decent film. However if you really liked this you'd love Infernal Affairs :)
You know what's kinda weird about the movie the 'Good Shepherd' is that there are a few questions that go unanswered throughout the movie and there are no videos on TH-cam that shed light on them. At the very least you could surmise that the questions are answered in a subtle fashion where only a few select people could understand. Specifically, people in the intelligence community could pick up on. Hopefully someone will create a video on TH-cam and give us some more insight on some of the plot twists in the movie.
Di Caprio and Damon struggle a bit compared to the giant shadows of Andy Lau and Tony Leung, but Mark Wahlberg in a new role created for The Departed steals the show and is the single I slightly favor this over the original.
It wasn't really a remake though. It was a basis at the most. It's a great film. Everyone is great. They used that and used Whitey Bulger and the Irish mob as the focus. This well isn't a remake
It's 1000% a remake. You can take scenes from the original and basically overlay them to this film. The differences are 50 minutes which add nothing and the fact the main characters share the same girlfriend/psychiatrist which is stupid as hell. In other words it's worse. Yeah it's based in Boston instead of Hong Kong but what do you really learn about Irish mafia from that era? Zero. Just the same Drop Kick Murphies song played on repeat to paste over the cracks. It's a pathetic performance from a director who's capable of so much more.
I agree - Infernal Affairs is a far better and more interesting, edgy movie. That's kind of what i was getting at "The Departed is more Shutter Island than Goodfellas" - that's a good point too. I've watched again quite recently & I still enjoyed it on the level of pure hilarious over the top acting [i still think Wahlberg is really funny in this]. I think the nuttiest, campest perfrmance is actually Nicholson's. :)
i disagree about mark walberg's performance in this. i like walberg but i was surprised that he was nominated for the Departed. playing an angry obnoxious guy from boston is not much of a stretch for him.and the character had some good lines but so what.
@@TequilaToothpick fuck the source material at this point chief, we’re talking about THIS film and Marks character was pretty good but I wouldn’t say it was anything special, he’s mostly just pissed off and dishing out insults. Leo carries it, you could see and feel how anxiety ridden and lost he felt as Billy.
Shit film. Jack Nicholson had no gravitas as an old time crime boss. Matt Damon has no charisma full stop. Mark wahlberg is mark wahlberg. Leo is leo. Why it's so highly rated I don't know.
The film loses its way once Quillan (Martin Sheen) is thrown from the top of a building and the film's well constructed platform falls to earth with him. Flatters to deceive.
The Departed is my least favourite Scorsese film ..the plot the acting the characters and the dialogue are cliché and predictable..Goodfellas Cape Fear Taxi Driver even Gangs of New York have images and characters that stay with you and get in your head..Departed was like watching a 2 hour plus TV crime thriller that's OK to pass the time but a week later I hardly remembered anything about it
Simon frustrates me as it’s clear he knows nothing about film, it would be better with Mark on his own. Case in point when Simon looks up Dante’s Inferno. Thanks for that. Geez. 😏
+chanceie12 Indeed. Boring is the last word that should be used to describe the Departed. It may be a more shallow movie than Scorsese's other work, but there is way more action in this one than in any of his others.
My personal opinion is that we need to give Scorsese's newer films more time before we can say whether or not they hold up against his older ones. In the ten years since The Departed came out, from my perspective, it seems like it has been getting more praise than it initially did. We call classic movies "classics" because they stood the test of time. I can't wait to see what people are saying about these films another decade or two down the line
It's been maybe 15 years but honestly this is overrated AF. The middle of the film is basically the same as Infernal Affairs, but the first third of the film has so many jump cuts it ceases to be enjoyable.
Even the part that basically leans heavily on Infernal Affairs isn't all that. Which is forgivable if it's original material but not when it's rehashing. This film deserves to be a lot better. Taking a strong concept like Infernal Affairs, you should be able to focus on what to add, but somehow this film mostly detracts.
Loved the Departed
Really really appreciate you posting these.
The film’s very well acted, well directed, well written, stylish & A very enjoyable dramatic crime thriller. (89%) (4.5/5 stars) (positive)
i can still look back to seeing this and remember the end to this film and how tense I felt, fantastic film
I didn’t think Mark Wahlberg was all that great in the movie, yet he was the only cast member to get an Oscar nom for the film
6 years later and The Departed is regarded as a classic crime movie.
Stewart Kee you’re kidding it was crap
So is Infernal Affairs.
amandeepv Really?
@@TequilaToothpick Though I’m not big on the Departed and find it a little nonsensical in places, I do quite like Infernal Affairs - the ending I find especially haunting and memorable (only seen the first one). I don’t think it’s a perfect film or anything, but can I ask why you dislike it?
The Scorsese version is really overrated. Less of a film, more of a flickbook, if you can imagine the nightmare of being stuck watching a flickbook for two and a half hours!
Favourite film, love it to bits
Love this movie
The Departed is great.
Completely disagree with Kermode's comment that it won't stick with audiences, DiCaprio also didn't get a mention, who for my money gives the best performance in the entire film.
Nine levels of Hell, Mark.
He was corrected at the end of the clip :)
bless wikipedia!
Mark has his opinion but it a beautifully poetic piece
Martin goes back into his sand box and draws a cast together that match and stand tall against all his other
great pieces be they knights or rooks .
The king here though is the masterful Jack Nicholson
who with De caprio Damon Wahlberg Farmiga Baldwin Sheen and Ray Winstone to name few , all act their socks off to the direction of Scorcese whom they clearly love ,
and why not, his movies are the who's who of brand name
films .
This movie stands along side those movies with ease
with gritty emotional tense performances and it's hard to find any actor who fails to deliver .
Mark kermode wasn't phased because he is immune but
modern classic is a good way to describe this movie .
Had you seen the original?
Deluded.
Great movie.
“One pretending to be a criminal, one pretending to be a cop”
The Departed’s plot summed up in 12 words.
@robaquarian the reason he got Oscar nominated is because when he is off screen we really notice he is off screen, his lines are made even better by his delivery.
Keep it up, badhead, always wanted to hear what kermode has to say about departed
Regardless of what you think of this film, have a look at Infernal Affairs. Damn good film.
Incredible movie.
leo stole the show I think
Man you trippin kermode. Bringing out the dead was great
1:58 That observation cracks me up every time.
David Ward imagine Jack Nicholson as a gay ballerina LOL
spot on!
I want the collaboration with Scorcese, De Niro, Pacino, and Pesci that was supposed to happen for a while now.
Goochbot I'm here from the future to let you know that it's coming out soon
really close now
The irishman
Oh boy this aged really well.
Not sure how this film could NOT stick with you. I've never seen a slicker, tenser, more satisfying thriller. And that includes Infernal Affairs. 20 years down the line I'd wouldn't be surprised if people regard it as Scorceses best.
I think because its a remake of such a brilliant movie.
Mark Wahlberg is the only reason I keep going back to The Departed. Everyone else just felt like they were doing what they usually do in movies.
great film. It's no Infernal Affairs, and it's certainly no Goodfellas, Mean Streets etc. but I did like it. There's plenty in it that to me was clearly played for laughs. Wahlberg was very funny I think. I would say though that Matt Damon and Leo DiCaprio were the only character's that seemed "real" to me
I agree that it is Martin Scorcese light and I certainly do't think it's a masterpiece but it is a very decent film. However if you really liked this you'd love Infernal Affairs
:)
You know what's kinda weird about the movie the 'Good Shepherd' is that there are a few questions that go unanswered throughout the movie and there are no videos on TH-cam that shed light on them. At the very least you could surmise that the questions are answered in a subtle fashion where only a few select people could understand. Specifically, people in the intelligence community could pick up on. Hopefully someone will create a video on TH-cam and give us some more insight on some of the plot twists in the movie.
@grigazaz Yeh before this started I was crossing my fingers he would like it!
Di Caprio and Damon struggle a bit compared to the giant shadows of Andy Lau and Tony Leung, but Mark Wahlberg in a new role created for The Departed steals the show and is the single I slightly favor this over the original.
Great film - Mark Damon, Leo D, Mark Walhberg and Alec Baldwin all very good. Nicholson nearly killed the film with his over-acting. Brilliant script.
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Jack destroyed the fucking film, his sleazy arched-eyebrow shtick became wearisome years ago.
@@Mrpublicimagelimited You would have to be dumb as dog shit to describe Nicholson in that way. Brilliant in The Departed.
@@keithmoon8838 nah, he's the weakest in the movie with his stupid rat impression and overacting.
This movie was excellent, but the rat running across the balcony in the final seconds was absurd
I really hope when I say he didn't care for gangs of New York that he would have at the very least praised Daniel day Lewis' performance.
I'd pay good money to see Jack play a gay ballerina
Bringing Out the Dead was "absolutely terrible"?!
It wasn't really a remake though. It was a basis at the most. It's a great film. Everyone is great. They used that and used Whitey Bulger and the Irish mob as the focus. This well isn't a remake
It's 1000% a remake. You can take scenes from the original and basically overlay them to this film.
The differences are 50 minutes which add nothing and the fact the main characters share the same girlfriend/psychiatrist which is stupid as hell. In other words it's worse.
Yeah it's based in Boston instead of Hong Kong but what do you really learn about Irish mafia from that era? Zero. Just the same Drop Kick Murphies song played on repeat to paste over the cracks. It's a pathetic performance from a director who's capable of so much more.
I agree - Infernal Affairs is a far better and more interesting, edgy movie. That's kind of what i was getting at
"The Departed is more Shutter Island than Goodfellas" - that's a good point too. I've watched again quite recently & I still enjoyed it on the level of pure hilarious over the top acting [i still think Wahlberg is really funny in this]. I think the nuttiest, campest perfrmance is actually Nicholson's.
:)
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he didn't care for Gangs of New York?? WTF?? Daniel Day Lewis was amazing in that film!
the story sucked
Other than Daniel Day Lewis it was awful!
Whoa whoa how is bringing out the dead a bad film.
@loloolee24 They liked it. What's your problem?
What's wrong with Bringing Out The Dead?
Start with Nicolas Cage then work your way up...
Boooooring
i disagree about mark walberg's performance in this. i like walberg but i was surprised that he was nominated for the Departed. playing an angry obnoxious guy from boston is not much of a stretch for him.and the character had some good lines but so what.
He alone gives this movie the nod over the source material.
@@TequilaToothpick fuck the source material at this point chief, we’re talking about THIS film and Marks character was pretty good but I wouldn’t say it was anything special, he’s mostly just pissed off and dishing out insults.
Leo carries it, you could see and feel how anxiety ridden and lost he felt as Billy.
Why does he not complain about this remake like he does about Let Me In?
Shit film. Jack Nicholson had no gravitas as an old time crime boss. Matt Damon has no charisma full stop. Mark wahlberg is mark wahlberg. Leo is leo. Why it's so highly rated I don't know.
Hot take
the departed is nowhere near goodfellas
Farrell Rose agree but still it's a very good film
The film loses its way once Quillan (Martin Sheen) is thrown from the top of a building and the film's well constructed platform falls to earth with him. Flatters to deceive.
That scene happens in the original, it is a pivotal moment.
Infernal affairs is way better.
Yes Lewis was great but everything else is rubbish.
The Departed is my least favourite Scorsese film ..the plot the acting the characters and the dialogue are cliché and predictable..Goodfellas Cape Fear Taxi Driver even Gangs of New York have images and characters that stay with you and get in your head..Departed was like watching a 2 hour plus TV crime thriller that's OK to pass the time but a week later I hardly remembered anything about it
One of Scorsese's weakest movies.
**in your opinion.
+Ethan Reuben (Reubinator999) Of course it's his opinion, who else's could it be?
+Ethan Reuben (Reubinator999) To write "in my opinion" at the end of a sentence that's entirely subjective is pretty unnecessary. Jesus christ..
EuroTrasho Productions Damn. Fine. i just don't like people who think they're point of view is the only one that's valid.
A V u really had to be different
Simon frustrates me as it’s clear he knows nothing about film, it would be better with Mark on his own. Case in point when Simon looks up Dante’s Inferno. Thanks for that. Geez. 😏
Simon is the host. It's his show.
I really didn't like the departed, I found it kind of boring
Shocking that you and five others agree.
+chanceie12 Indeed. Boring is the last word that should be used to describe the Departed. It may be a more shallow movie than Scorsese's other work, but there is way more action in this one than in any of his others.
karlzone2 don't worry, i re-watched it a while back and I've changed my opinion on it.
+karlzone2 I suspect it's the very shallowness you've acknowledged that is the source of such boredom.
tts12345678910 then u r trying to be different
The worst movie I have ever seen.