This is incredibly helpful and timely, as we are putting forward several qualified men this very week as elders in our church to oversee and pastor our people. Thank you Pastor John. God’s sovereign tinning in seeing this is amazing. Blessings, brother.
GOD HAS CLEARLY SPOKEN .. THERE WERE BUT 12 APOSTLES OF THE LAMB .. THEY LAID THE FOUNDATION OF OUR GOSPEL .. GOD HAS CLEARLY SPOKEN .. ALL OTHERS THAT CLAIM TO BE AN APOSTLE ARE LIARS
@@josephkirimi5453 I HAVE READ EPHESIANS AND HAVE TAUGHT UPON IT AND YES HE GAVE THE CHURCH APOSTLES PROPHETS PREACHERS TEACHERS AND EVANGELISTS BUT GOD HAS CLEARLY SPOKEN AS SO THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING .. THERE WERE BUT 12 APOSTLES AND THEY LAID THE FOUNDATION SPOKEN OF IN HEBREWS 6 WHICH IS OUR GOSPEL .. THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING AS WELL AS TO ALL THOSE THAT CLAIM TO BE AN APOSTLE OTHER THAN THESE ARE LIARS Revelation 2:2 “I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:” .. Revelation 21:14 “And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.” THERE IS NO CONFUSION NOR MISUNDERSTANDING IN THESE WORDS SPOKEN OF BY GOD ..
@@anthonyterry1152 No Anthony, these are gifts that Christ left with mankind to be reccuring. Do you want to mean because there were prophets before Jesus, there are no more prophets?
A large swath of churches in America has rejected the pastors, teachers, evangelists, etc that they need and choose to have itching ear preachers instead.
Believe in Christ Jesus, love God with all your heart. Ask for God's Holy Spirit, and let the Spirit that enters you lead you as you spread the wonderful news of true freedom in God's only Son who died so we could be free from our sin. It can be done only through faith and not deeds. I love you all and want to see everyone free! God loves you, and Jesus loves you too!
Fairly, that lines up with the work He did using Stephen. And it is just the same with Phillip and Matthias. Each was set for particular works. But what of the man who has made the mistake of pastoring over a flock he has not been set for? One determines that it is so he has his theology all wrong and based in denials and prosperity teaching. If no one is ever risen up to take that mantle away from him or that pastor doesn't mature fast enough, where are we to go from there? I can only believe that for people like Creflo Dollar, he is preaching some manner of the Gospel by which it takes root into the heart of millions as God promised His word will do, maturing those people to move on after they both tastes and see that the Lord is good and develop a meat and potatoes hunger and pure water craving thirst for God's word. I guess all that to say... The tares and wheat together in the harvest.
Jesus appoints or calls the five to minister to the church of God. They are gifts from God and not appointments from church leaders. A church that has no these five gifts is a false church. Never be a part of a church that has only one, like you hear of pastor this, prophet that, bishop that, these are self proclaimed church leaders and are a one man show.
HERE LIES THE ISSUE WITH THIS FOOLISH QUESTION .. YOU SPEAK AS IF THE CHURCH IS A BUILDING .. SO DOES GOD GIVE PASTORS TO THE CHURCH .. YES .. Jeremiah 3:15 “And I will give you pastors according to Mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.” BY YOUR WORDS WE SEE YOU DO NOT TEACH KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING YOU TEACH KNOWLEDGE ALONE AS THE PHARISEES DID
This is incredibly helpful and timely, as we are putting forward several qualified men this very week as elders in our church to oversee and pastor our people. Thank you Pastor John. God’s sovereign tinning in seeing this is amazing. Blessings, brother.
Thank you Lord for giving apostles and prophets to the church today!
What about the preachers,teachers, and pastors?
GOD HAS CLEARLY SPOKEN .. THERE WERE BUT 12 APOSTLES OF THE LAMB .. THEY LAID THE FOUNDATION OF OUR GOSPEL .. GOD HAS CLEARLY SPOKEN .. ALL OTHERS THAT CLAIM TO BE AN APOSTLE ARE LIARS
@@anthonyterry1152 That's a wrong understanding of the Bible. Read Ephesians 4:10-14 clearly because these are gifts Jesus gave the church.
@@josephkirimi5453 I HAVE READ EPHESIANS AND HAVE TAUGHT UPON IT AND YES HE GAVE THE CHURCH APOSTLES PROPHETS PREACHERS TEACHERS AND EVANGELISTS BUT GOD HAS CLEARLY SPOKEN AS SO THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING .. THERE WERE BUT 12 APOSTLES AND THEY LAID THE FOUNDATION SPOKEN OF IN HEBREWS 6 WHICH IS OUR GOSPEL .. THERE IS NO MISUNDERSTANDING AS WELL AS TO ALL THOSE THAT CLAIM TO BE AN APOSTLE OTHER THAN THESE ARE LIARS
Revelation 2:2
“I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:”
.. Revelation 21:14
“And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”
THERE IS NO CONFUSION NOR MISUNDERSTANDING IN THESE WORDS SPOKEN OF BY GOD ..
@@anthonyterry1152 No Anthony, these are gifts that Christ left with mankind to be reccuring. Do you want to mean because there were prophets before Jesus, there are no more prophets?
A large swath of churches in America has rejected the pastors, teachers, evangelists, etc that they need and choose to have itching ear preachers instead.
Believe in Christ Jesus, love God with all your heart. Ask for God's Holy Spirit, and let the Spirit that enters you lead you as you spread the wonderful news of true freedom in God's only Son who died so we could be free from our sin. It can be done only through faith and not deeds. I love you all and want to see everyone free! God loves you, and Jesus loves you too!
John 9. Sent. I was called out from blindness.
Thank Christ that He gave us John Piper 🙏
Fairly, that lines up with the work He did using Stephen. And it is just the same with Phillip and Matthias. Each was set for particular works.
But what of the man who has made the mistake of pastoring over a flock he has not been set for? One determines that it is so he has his theology all wrong and based in denials and prosperity teaching.
If no one is ever risen up to take that mantle away from him or that pastor doesn't mature fast enough, where are we to go from there?
I can only believe that for people like Creflo Dollar, he is preaching some manner of the Gospel by which it takes root into the heart of millions as God promised His word will do, maturing those people to move on after they both tastes and see that the Lord is good and develop a meat and potatoes hunger and pure water craving thirst for God's word.
I guess all that to say... The tares and wheat together in the harvest.
Jesus appoints or calls the five to minister to the church of God. They are gifts from God and not appointments from church leaders. A church that has no these five gifts is a false church. Never be a part of a church that has only one, like you hear of pastor this, prophet that, bishop that, these are self proclaimed church leaders and are a one man show.
What about women "pastor's"???
God does not allow them.
HERE LIES THE ISSUE WITH THIS FOOLISH QUESTION .. YOU SPEAK AS IF THE CHURCH IS A BUILDING .. SO DOES GOD GIVE PASTORS TO THE CHURCH .. YES ..
Jeremiah 3:15
“And I will give you pastors according to Mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.”
BY YOUR WORDS WE SEE
YOU DO NOT TEACH KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING
YOU TEACH KNOWLEDGE ALONE
AS THE PHARISEES DID
He asked about specific churches and not the church.
@@josephkirimi5453 AGAIN .. THE CHURCH IS NOT A BUILDING .. AND THERE IS BUT ONE CHURCH THERFORE THERE CANNOT BE "SPECIFIC CHURCHES " ..
@@anthonyterry1152 He used the wrong word, he would have used the word denominations. The true church of God is not a denomination.
@@josephkirimi5453 DENOMINATIONS ARE INDEED NOT OF GOD .. THEY ARE UNGODLY IN MANNER AND COME FROM UNGODLY THEOLOGIES .. AMEN
@@anthonyterry1152 It's true Anthony, that's why I am specific when I talk of a church of God.