@@zankaa8031 Relatable, I skipped literally all of Gen 3-6, much later picked up Gen 1 and 7 ou, and then Gen 8 pre-DLC vgc and ou. I can tell you all about specific Toxapex sets but I’m never going to remember which generation Lucario debuted in.
I will not take this Garganacl slander. I fucking love that we have a 3 pokemon line that are all names using the chemical symbol for salt. Genuinely love those pokemon.
Want to note this is a Japanese thing with TV tropes saying "the Japanese word for seahorse, tatsu-no-otoshigo, literally means "dragon's bastard child." " so that is why in Japanese things (Such as Pokemon and Fruits Basket) seahorses are considered dragons.
@@videoguy640Because life is unfair and we mere made just to suffer. (In actuality it is due to the game play philosophy of Pokemon Red/Green, where Dragon type were made specifically to be better then other type but would be rarer and harder to obtain, thus why only 1 dragon type evolution line (Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite) exists in the game. They lack many weaknesses on purpose because they were supposed to be a cool reward for finding it (Can only find it super rarely in the Safari Zone (a limited zone you have to use Pokedollars to walk though and you only get 300 steps before it boots you to the beginning)) and training it, Dragonite being the highest level evolution in the game. This comes around to Charizard where they would not want to give such a powerful type as a starter Pokemon. TL;DR Pokemon balance was wack in Gen 1, and giving you an intentionally broken Pokemon type as a starter was not part of their plan. Here is a bonus Pokemon Gen 1 fact, the starters of the game act as a difficulty select, Bulbasaur is easy, because the early gyms are weak to or not very effective against Grass, thus by the time you get to the Gyms you would need to swap, you could have either trained more Pokemon based on the larger pool you have access to at that point in the game, or try to just tank it with higher levels. Squirtle is medium where they can wipe out the first gym but then will struggle being the same type as the second and being weak to the third, you have to start training up a new Pokemon/Pokemon Team to tackle to game, and Charmander is immediately not good against the Rock type of the first gym so you have access to about 5 or 6 Pokemon total at that point and have to figure out how to really manage your types and using buff and debuff moves. So far as I know this was never really repeated and the reason is kind of obvious though never outright stated, kids were not going to restart the game because it was too hard or they couldn't advance, they just wanted to pick the coolest one or the cutest or whatever they liked and will just suffer smacking their heads against a gym until they win. So this soft difficulty select is inherently bad in a game about monster collecting that places emphasis on creating bonds with them and selecting the ones you relate to. Sorry for the long post, hopefully it was informative and enjoyable to read~
@@Ragnell123 Fairy pokemon in gen 1? Dragon would be fair if gen 1 had other dragon moves than Dragon Rage, wich doesn't interact with types. So in gen 1 it wouldn't have any weaknesses.
The reason Gyarados isn’t a dragon is the same as why Charizard isn’t a dragon. Imagine getting a water dragon type at level 20 from any magikarp, or a completely free fire dragon type, especially in early gens. Wayyy too broken
In Japanese, Seahorses are partially spelt using the Japanese word for Dragon “Tatsu”. GF hopped on board with this and made Kingdra a Dragon. You could have also chosen Palkia.
There are two species of seahorse that have "dragon" in their common nomenclature: the leafy sea dragon; and the weedy sea dragon. Whilst neither are intimidating or particularly large, Kingdra was likely based off one and/or both of them.
He's right about Gyarados and Dratini, but so very wrong about Sea(horse)dra(gon). Ice-psychic being his assumption for what it looks like just shows NL's gone off the deep end of expecting typings that make no sense. As if he thinks the devs knew about Pokedoku in advance and they're playing mindgames with their typings.
I love chats reaction but I also hate chats reaction. There’s some people that are acting like they’re so much smarter than NL because they memorized a bunch of fictional characters in a children’s game. But it’s fantastic when everyone starts freaking out when he makes a wild guess and is right.
2:58 "They are never gonna meet. They are parallel lines." It's so trivial. It's literally just the bare definition you learn in elementary, yet I don't know why it hits so hard in the context of Pokedoku
Have y’all never heard of a Leafy Seadragon? Look it up, it’s a relative of the standard seahorse, looks exactly like Kingdra, and is obviously what is was based on due to the stem and plant like bits coming off its head and fins.
Gyrados is a water/flying type not a water/dragon type because of the myth that it is based off of. A carp (magikarp) could work through adversity during its life, and work more and more to leap up into the air as high as it can, and one day it get's rewarded for it's perseverence by being turned into a giant flying dragon. Unfortunately, this increase in power stopped the carp from wishing to continue to push the limits, and as a punishment the dragon's ability to fly was taken away along with most of his powers. Gyrados is a lesson in humility, it's called a flying type but can't learn many flying moves and it doesn't have dragon powers so it's not called a dragon anymore, just a really big strong and scary beast.
In Japanese mythology, sea horses are considered to be baby dragons, and according to legend, if a sea horse lives for 100-1000 years they become a full fledged dragon Also, in Japanese mythology, dragons are said to lose their dragon title if they abuse their power for greedy and evil purposes, such as blasting everything with lasers just because you felt like it, which is partly why Gyarados isn't dragon type There's also the whole balancing thing, where Water/Dragon types were only weak to Dragons until the Fairy type came around, and the only move in gen 1 that was dragon type was dragon rage, a move that always under every circumstance deals exactly 40 HP in damage So yeah, Gyarados would've been busted if it was dragon type
My brother in Helix, Dragonair literally has air in its name. Why would you think it’s water type? Granted it’s not flying either, but it evolves into one. Also huge L take hating on my boy Garganacl
A lot of people don’t understand that all because the Pokémon lives in water doesn’t make it a water type, pokemon types aren’t based on where you live it’s based on what you do. If we assume Pokémon types are based on things like that charizard would be a ground type because it’s a cave/mountain Pokémon
Honestly it’s just gamefeak having fun. Leaning the origins of each design is interesting (most of the tem) and there a lot of thought that golf’s intooth a design.
in japan a seahorse is a dragon, you see that in fruits baskets when one of the zodiac signs turn into one when hugged by a girl. it's just a thing over there.
Bruh I just played today's and it had steel final evolution so I put bisharp and it didn't count because kingambit now exists, then it had hoenn middle evolution and I put linoone because obstagoon now exists but that also didn't count because obstagoon only evolves from the galar linoon. For such simple prompts it rolled me.
I’m so tired of people being unable to comprehend that Game Freak like variety in their Pokémon concepts. An aquatic creature that’s only electric type, a ghost type that isn’t a ghost but a golem, a dragon shaped creature that isn’t a dragon. These things are done to provide variety and cover niches.
Seahorses are in japanese Tatsunoko, aka sons of dragons People used to think if they lived for long they would become full dragons! Its also Kiryu Coco (the dragon vtuber) fans name
usually typings can be traced back to the pkmns origins, and with a quick google search kingdra is most likely based on a combination of a seahorse and a closely related animal called a seadragon, so im assuming it gets it's dragon typing from that...... otherwise we can go for the meta reason that they wanted a new dragon typed pokemon for the 8th gym so they made kingdra into one
Gyarados will always be weird because of Lake of Rage. Kingdra makes a certain amount of sense but they put a ton of hallmarks for Gyarados to be a dragon but more importantly not flying. Lance the dragon trainer has a quest with Gyarados. The design is based on mythical sea serpents (similar to Dragonair) Dragons in most cultures have a trait associated with anger/rage Gyarados learns dragon rage. The Pokemon is also most likely based on a Japanese legend where a carp jumps out of a pool and flies away.
@@grantduerst8060there's a continuation of this fable where the Koi acts evil and does rampages with his dragon power, thus he's sentence by the heavenly gods and lose his godhood (dragon power) but still keeps his new form. That's why Gyarados, being full of rage isn't dragon type, and even mega into dark type, because he's evil.
I can answer this one, as I did in a previous video: Gyarados is Water/Flying because back in Gen1 there was only one Dragon Type move, Dragon Rage, which always did 40 Static Damage. Gyarados would’ve had no Weaknesses back in Gen1 because of this. Gen2 introduced Dragon Pulse iirc? It introduced some new Dragon Type move so now Dragons were actually weak to Dragon and not just Ice. So then Kingdra was weak to Dragon. (Also Gyarados got a Mega which makes it Water/Dark which, makes more sense than it being a Dragon to me)
It makes sense from a game balance standpoint, but why not change it now? They’ve added Fairy type to a bunch of pokemon who didn’t have it. As well, Dragon isn’t nearly as powerful as it used to be, if balance is the concern.
personally, it's just wild to me that gyarados wouldn't be dragon type considering the evolution line looks like is referencing the fable where a koi climbs a waterfall and becomes a dragon
I fear for chats media literacy on this one holy, he calls chat wrong after they're wrong and everyone suddenly somehow thinks that NL is complaining about his answer being incorrect. "you got it right tho" yeah......he knows that lmao
Look, the moment he put up the gyrados mega form and THAT NONSENSE wasn't a dragon type also.... Yet seadra is, I had to side with enelle, he just right. Lol. I was at least gonna pretend to play devils advocate in my. Head, but nls just right with this lll
Its funny that the most common "why isnt this a dragon?" situations with pokemon, Gyarados and Charizard, are genuinely because it would have broken the balancing of the first few games. Dragons were meant to be rare and both of those would have been super accessible.
I know for gyrados, it's that reason and also playing into the myth that inspired gyrados because once the carp jumped the waterfall and was blessed into becoming a dragon, it lost it's humility and it's ability to fly was taken away (why it's a flying type but doesn't learn many if any flying moves) so the flying secondary type is a reminder of it's past.
says he knows gyarados is water/flying so picks the Pokémon named Dragonair... Dragon Air even if Dragonair was duel type why would it be dragon/water?
GYARADOS IS A SEA MONSTER/ A LEVIATHAN He is dragon like, but he's not a dragon. In the past, sailors were afraid of the far away seas, imagining terrible sea monsters ( we could see maps with giant monsters in water ). Those creatures inspired fear of the unknown.. That's also why Mega Gyarados is Water/Dark. You're welcome.
@@MATCHLESS789 you know, Pokémon has this power to take real legends and do something alike, that is their very own lol Now this is a carp who becomes a sea monster, that's all 🤣
@@quentincl2932 okay, and how does your little "there be dragons" story plays into this conversation? What I'm saying, that you're wrong and Gyarados has nothing to do with your proposed inspiration for it.
@MATCHLESS93 oh ? So Game Freak said, "It was a dragon." Do you have some proof of what you're saying? Weird enough, Gyarados has not the dragon type .. for a dragon that's just funny... maybe because it is a Leviathan 😉 I mean, even charizard got an alternate dragon type when mega evolving , they could have done the same for Gyarados, but they didn't, they gave it dark type .. because it is a sea monster. Case closed
I thought it was because then it would be resistant to ice, the only thing that could combat dragon type in gen 1 as the only dragon type move was dragon rage
Thank god he didn't notice Tatsugiri when he looked at least common. Bro would've flipped his lid if he knew sushi was a dragon.
Nobody tell nl about alolan eggsecutor
Pretty sure Garganacl is the one that wants to eat the smurfs
+2
Nah he’s the cousin who wants to eat salted smurfs. Easy mistake tho.
Lol love that he’s upset that he’s starting to absorb pokemon logic now. Pokedoku can be brutal esp if you don’t know the generational additions well.
Bro why do they keep doing the violet/scarlet dlc category it's so lame
@@uiron5755 if you are referring to "paldea + area zero dlc," that category includes anything gen 9, not just the dlc.
@SoggyWaffles. woops I misread it LUL
I played Pokemon religiously (showdown enjoyer) from gen 1-7 and I still get so fucked up on pokedoku
@@zankaa8031 Relatable, I skipped literally all of Gen 3-6, much later picked up Gen 1 and 7 ou, and then Gen 8 pre-DLC vgc and ou. I can tell you all about specific Toxapex sets but I’m never going to remember which generation Lucario debuted in.
"Naga means poison, I've played DOTA" except Naga Siren and Slardar have no poison abilities
They're toxic
That's cuz naga means snake, not poison.
Why would naga mean poison anyway, you don't eat the snake.
Naga in Malay means dragon
@@daniaaalbecause it comes from Hindi/Sanskrit in which Naga means snake/serpent
I will not take this Garganacl slander. I fucking love that we have a 3 pokemon line that are all names using the chemical symbol for salt. Genuinely love those pokemon.
always remember that they made the mfer named Seel in GEN ONE
@@depalodor Seel *and* Dewgong literally two animals that actually exist just misspelled
He literally looks like donkey Kong
nerds have ruined pokemon......
Reminder that three magnets combining into a big magnet is DAY ONE Pokémon bullshit
BRO he pointing the FUCK outta his index finger in the beginning you see how that shit bent
you would think the pokemon called dragon air would be a flying type but alas
It at least evolves into one
Regibrain SENT me dude
The Regitube in the back : : :
Opening my third eye to manifest Regibrain into becoming real
chat: its a sea dragon!!
NL: No.
To bad this time it was the English language who was wrong.
literally the only pokemon where his "learns bite = dark type" logic tracks is Mega Gyarados, which is the most Dragon/Water pokemon ever lol
Plenty of examples, like absol nd mightyena
Alolan Muk is literally only Dark for that reason.
Isn't that a bit like going "learns tackle=normal"? Nearly any pokemon with sharp teeth gets it
@@polocatfan Well that and the lack of weaknesses.
sometimes I wish I could just have a 1 on 1 conversation about pokemon with this man
The entire sinnoh column could just be the garchomp line
Want to note this is a Japanese thing with TV tropes saying "the Japanese word for seahorse, tatsu-no-otoshigo, literally means "dragon's bastard child." " so that is why in Japanese things (Such as Pokemon and Fruits Basket) seahorses are considered dragons.
Ohhhh that makes a lot of sense. But why is Charizard not a dragon type?
@@videoguy640Because life is unfair and we mere made just to suffer. (In actuality it is due to the game play philosophy of Pokemon Red/Green, where Dragon type were made specifically to be better then other type but would be rarer and harder to obtain, thus why only 1 dragon type evolution line (Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite) exists in the game. They lack many weaknesses on purpose because they were supposed to be a cool reward for finding it (Can only find it super rarely in the Safari Zone (a limited zone you have to use Pokedollars to walk though and you only get 300 steps before it boots you to the beginning)) and training it, Dragonite being the highest level evolution in the game.
This comes around to Charizard where they would not want to give such a powerful type as a starter Pokemon.
TL;DR Pokemon balance was wack in Gen 1, and giving you an intentionally broken Pokemon type as a starter was not part of their plan.
Here is a bonus Pokemon Gen 1 fact, the starters of the game act as a difficulty select, Bulbasaur is easy, because the early gyms are weak to or not very effective against Grass, thus by the time you get to the Gyms you would need to swap, you could have either trained more Pokemon based on the larger pool you have access to at that point in the game, or try to just tank it with higher levels. Squirtle is medium where they can wipe out the first gym but then will struggle being the same type as the second and being weak to the third, you have to start training up a new Pokemon/Pokemon Team to tackle to game, and Charmander is immediately not good against the Rock type of the first gym so you have access to about 5 or 6 Pokemon total at that point and have to figure out how to really manage your types and using buff and debuff moves.
So far as I know this was never really repeated and the reason is kind of obvious though never outright stated, kids were not going to restart the game because it was too hard or they couldn't advance, they just wanted to pick the coolest one or the cutest or whatever they liked and will just suffer smacking their heads against a gym until they win. So this soft difficulty select is inherently bad in a game about monster collecting that places emphasis on creating bonds with them and selecting the ones you relate to.
Sorry for the long post, hopefully it was informative and enjoyable to read~
In japanese, a sea horse is called "tatsu no otoshigo". "Tatsu" means dragon.
Sea dragons are also a thing, but that’s what Dragalge is based on
I hope the pokedoku era eventually coalesces into NL playing the next mainline pokemon game on stream when it comes out
He'll play the first half and then dip because it gets half the views of any random SAP episode lol
I'd love to see this if they made one that wasn't shit, it's been so long
It’s just based on the seahorse species that’s named “sea dragon” if I had to guess.
Who knows about Gyarados though
According to google:
Water/Dragon type would have no weaknesses. The Flying type allows for a x4 weakness to Electric, which keeps Gyarados in check.
@@osterro This is why AI is cooked. Water/dragon is weak to dragon and fairy type
@@Ragnell123 Forgot to mention that I was talking about gen 1. There was no fairy type yet. And I don't know if dragon was weak to dragon yet.
@@Ragnell123 Fairy pokemon in gen 1? Dragon would be fair if gen 1 had other dragon moves than Dragon Rage, wich doesn't interact with types. So in gen 1 it wouldn't have any weaknesses.
@@juhoo2068 Oh, yea if we’re only talking about Gen 1 then yea. That’s why fairy type was conceived to begin with, cause dragon type was too strong
"Theyre putting molecules as pokemon now?"
Castform: nobody ever remembers me
3:07 the definition of:
We are so back!
It's over !
We are so back!
Oh my god nl remembered swampert exists were so back
The reason Gyarados isn’t a dragon is the same as why Charizard isn’t a dragon. Imagine getting a water dragon type at level 20 from any magikarp, or a completely free fire dragon type, especially in early gens. Wayyy too broken
I think if SMT was your childhood monster collector game, you will be cooked with Pokémon
I love you librariab
libarian
In Japanese, Seahorses are partially spelt using the Japanese word for Dragon “Tatsu”. GF hopped on board with this and made Kingdra a Dragon. You could have also chosen Palkia.
There are two species of seahorse that have "dragon" in their common nomenclature: the leafy sea dragon; and the weedy sea dragon. Whilst neither are intimidating or particularly large, Kingdra was likely based off one and/or both of them.
Recognizing the rare dub that was identifying the 'naga' in Naganadel
Giblee, Olivia Munn
regibrain got me so good dude
nvm gruel and giblee destroyed me
Regisinnoh? Regi...Regimega.
He's right about Gyarados and Dratini, but so very wrong about Sea(horse)dra(gon). Ice-psychic being his assumption for what it looks like just shows NL's gone off the deep end of expecting typings that make no sense. As if he thinks the devs knew about Pokedoku in advance and they're playing mindgames with their typings.
I haven't seen a Pokemon Go ad in like 5 years and yet I got one on this video lol
I'm surprised that he didn't get another dragon like Dragalge being an evolved form of Skrelp.
this is my fav dle to watch by far
Gyarados can fly, kingdra cannot
Explained
"Is Gabite a Dark type?"
"Yes, because he can learn bite"
THAT IS THE SMARTEST INCORRECT ANSWER I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE
I love chats reaction but I also hate chats reaction. There’s some people that are acting like they’re so much smarter than NL because they memorized a bunch of fictional characters in a children’s game. But it’s fantastic when everyone starts freaking out when he makes a wild guess and is right.
NL and Pokemon is a blessed mix
Chat is right, he's a Sea Dragon. That's literally it
2:58 "They are never gonna meet. They are parallel lines." It's so trivial. It's literally just the bare definition you learn in elementary, yet I don't know why it hits so hard in the context of Pokedoku
I’m guessing he’s never heard of a sea dragon before huh
The Garganacl slander is crazy.
I love the upset over molecule pokemon being a new thing. *Glances nervously at Castform*
It's insane that he knew a pokemon named kingdra existed and it evolved from seadra, and didn't think it was dragon/water
The Garganacci slander WILL NOT STAND, EGGMAN!
Have y’all never heard of a Leafy Seadragon? Look it up, it’s a relative of the standard seahorse, looks exactly like Kingdra, and is obviously what is was based on due to the stem and plant like bits coming off its head and fins.
watching NL play pokedoku physically hurts. never stop
I was trying to be smart by picking Origin Dialga in the Dragon / Sinnoh box, but it's a Gen8 'mon by all technicality.
Gyrados is a water/flying type not a water/dragon type because of the myth that it is based off of. A carp (magikarp) could work through adversity during its life, and work more and more to leap up into the air as high as it can, and one day it get's rewarded for it's perseverence by being turned into a giant flying dragon. Unfortunately, this increase in power stopped the carp from wishing to continue to push the limits, and as a punishment the dragon's ability to fly was taken away along with most of his powers.
Gyrados is a lesson in humility, it's called a flying type but can't learn many flying moves and it doesn't have dragon powers so it's not called a dragon anymore, just a really big strong and scary beast.
we need the pokedoku supercut
In Japanese mythology, sea horses are considered to be baby dragons, and according to legend, if a sea horse lives for 100-1000 years they become a full fledged dragon
Also, in Japanese mythology, dragons are said to lose their dragon title if they abuse their power for greedy and evil purposes, such as blasting everything with lasers just because you felt like it, which is partly why Gyarados isn't dragon type
There's also the whole balancing thing, where Water/Dragon types were only weak to Dragons until the Fairy type came around, and the only move in gen 1 that was dragon type was dragon rage, a move that always under every circumstance deals exactly 40 HP in damage
So yeah, Gyarados would've been busted if it was dragon type
Someone said that Kingdra is a sea dragon. What this guy didn't realize, is that Sea Dragons are an actual thing, which Dragalge is also based on.
My brother in Helix, Dragonair literally has air in its name. Why would you think it’s water type?
Granted it’s not flying either, but it evolves into one.
Also huge L take hating on my boy Garganacl
The fact that mega and dynamax are even categories sometimes when those are so divisive, this game ain’t easy
What do you mean they are decisive?
A lot of people don’t understand that all because the Pokémon lives in water doesn’t make it a water type, pokemon types aren’t based on where you live it’s based on what you do. If we assume Pokémon types are based on things like that charizard would be a ground type because it’s a cave/mountain Pokémon
Honestly it’s just gamefeak having fun. Leaning the origins of each design is interesting (most of the tem) and there a lot of thought that golf’s intooth a design.
in japan a seahorse is a dragon, you see that in fruits baskets when one of the zodiac signs turn into one when hugged by a girl. it's just a thing over there.
Bruh I just played today's and it had steel final evolution so I put bisharp and it didn't count because kingambit now exists, then it had hoenn middle evolution and I put linoone because obstagoon now exists but that also didn't count because obstagoon only evolves from the galar linoon. For such simple prompts it rolled me.
Kingdra is based on a sea dragon, a relative of the sea horse.
I felt him on the Garganacl bit WHAT is that pokedude
I’m so tired of people being unable to comprehend that Game Freak like variety in their Pokémon concepts.
An aquatic creature that’s only electric type, a ghost type that isn’t a ghost but a golem, a dragon shaped creature that isn’t a dragon. These things are done to provide variety and cover niches.
Bro never heard of weedy sea dragons
"Regibrain" lmfaoooo
Garganacl is just salty donkey kong
" 'Pokudoku' is making me mentally ill"
Kingdra being of my favorite pokemon ever. I never thought I would yell so much at a Bald man on a PC screen.
I think a lot of earlier pokemon were made with the design. in mind first and the typing second.
Typings weren't even a part of the game until halfway through development
Seahorses are in japanese Tatsunoko, aka sons of dragons
People used to think if they lived for long they would become full dragons!
Its also Kiryu Coco (the dragon vtuber) fans name
Kingdra is a dragon because the japanese word for 'seahorse' uses the kanji for dragon.
usually typings can be traced back to the pkmns origins, and with a quick google search kingdra is most likely based on a combination of a seahorse and a closely related animal called a seadragon, so im assuming it gets it's dragon typing from that...... otherwise we can go for the meta reason that they wanted a new dragon typed pokemon for the 8th gym so they made kingdra into one
Gyarados will always be weird because of Lake of Rage. Kingdra makes a certain amount of sense but they put a ton of hallmarks for Gyarados to be a dragon but more importantly not flying.
Lance the dragon trainer has a quest with Gyarados.
The design is based on mythical sea serpents (similar to Dragonair)
Dragons in most cultures have a trait associated with anger/rage
Gyarados learns dragon rage.
The Pokemon is also most likely based on a Japanese legend where a carp jumps out of a pool and flies away.
@@grantduerst8060there's a continuation of this fable where the Koi acts evil and does rampages with his dragon power, thus he's sentence by the heavenly gods and lose his godhood (dragon power) but still keeps his new form. That's why Gyarados, being full of rage isn't dragon type, and even mega into dark type, because he's evil.
I can answer this one, as I did in a previous video:
Gyarados is Water/Flying because back in Gen1 there was only one Dragon Type move, Dragon Rage, which always did 40 Static Damage. Gyarados would’ve had no Weaknesses back in Gen1 because of this.
Gen2 introduced Dragon Pulse iirc? It introduced some new Dragon Type move so now Dragons were actually weak to Dragon and not just Ice. So then Kingdra was weak to Dragon.
(Also Gyarados got a Mega which makes it Water/Dark which, makes more sense than it being a Dragon to me)
It makes sense from a game balance standpoint, but why not change it now? They’ve added Fairy type to a bunch of pokemon who didn’t have it. As well, Dragon isn’t nearly as powerful as it used to be, if balance is the concern.
Not Dragon Pulse, that's later. Twister, Dragonbreath and Outrage were the three Dragon type attacks in Gen 2.
I find it unlikely that this no weakness detail would have played a role in the decision process
@@jooko91 TY for the correction o7
personally, it's just wild to me that gyarados wouldn't be dragon type considering the evolution line looks like is referencing the fable where a koi climbs a waterfall and becomes a dragon
I fear for chats media literacy on this one holy, he calls chat wrong after they're wrong and everyone suddenly somehow thinks that NL is complaining about his answer being incorrect.
"you got it right tho" yeah......he knows that lmao
The reason Kingdra is dragon type and is considered a dragon is because Japanese mythology depicts sea horses as baby dragons.
she garga on my nacl till my salt cured
Look, the moment he put up the gyrados mega form and THAT NONSENSE wasn't a dragon type also.... Yet seadra is, I had to side with enelle, he just right. Lol. I was at least gonna pretend to play devils advocate in my. Head, but nls just right with this lll
Kingdra? Oh he got it later 😌
Its funny that the most common "why isnt this a dragon?" situations with pokemon, Gyarados and Charizard, are genuinely because it would have broken the balancing of the first few games. Dragons were meant to be rare and both of those would have been super accessible.
I know for gyrados, it's that reason and also playing into the myth that inspired gyrados because once the carp jumped the waterfall and was blessed into becoming a dragon, it lost it's humility and it's ability to fly was taken away (why it's a flying type but doesn't learn many if any flying moves) so the flying secondary type is a reminder of it's past.
"Are you telling me they gave this seal a horn? Pokemon is losing their MINDS."
Did he do the Goon Squad challenge?
sadly not
Bro never heard of the weedy seadragon? Lost my respect
Who told him that dratini lives in the water 😭
can we talk about regibrain
Really like seeing these from a non-pokemon fan
ugh people need to just stop freaking out over pokemon logic. gen 1 and 2 don't make sense we get it
Regibrain
says he knows gyarados is water/flying so picks the Pokémon named Dragonair... Dragon Air
even if Dragonair was duel type why would it be dragon/water?
This is so funny lmao 😂
Linbarian the GOAT
Bro is mad
Hahaha, never say Mega Giratina ever again
GYARADOS IS A SEA MONSTER/ A LEVIATHAN
He is dragon like, but he's not a dragon.
In the past, sailors were afraid of the far away seas, imagining terrible sea monsters ( we could see maps with giant monsters in water ). Those creatures inspired fear of the unknown.. That's also why Mega Gyarados is Water/Dark.
You're welcome.
Isn't Gyarados literally built around a story where a carp swam up a waterfall to become a dragon?
@@MATCHLESS789 you know, Pokémon has this power to take real legends and do something alike, that is their very own lol
Now this is a carp who becomes a sea monster, that's all 🤣
@@quentincl2932 okay, and how does your little "there be dragons" story plays into this conversation? What I'm saying, that you're wrong and Gyarados has nothing to do with your proposed inspiration for it.
@MATCHLESS93 oh ? So Game Freak said, "It was a dragon." Do you have some proof of what you're saying? Weird enough, Gyarados has not the dragon type .. for a dragon that's just funny... maybe because it is a Leviathan 😉
I mean, even charizard got an alternate dragon type when mega evolving , they could have done the same for Gyarados, but they didn't, they gave it dark type .. because it is a sea monster. Case closed
We're all fucking wrong
Tabarnacl
It's called bullshit
I gave up on pokemon around sword and shield era so I like to laugh at NL playing pokedoku but when I try to play myself I start to feel like NL 😂
Is he doing it on purpose?
He is right, gyarados should be dragon type, they basically dropped it because there isn't any dragon attacks for it to use
Tell that to the garydos on my first ever pokemon team (it had dragon rush)
@@matthiass._. In Gen 1 it had Dragon Rage and that's it which does 40 damage even so the type chart doesn't even matter
I thought it was because then it would be resistant to ice, the only thing that could combat dragon type in gen 1 as the only dragon type move was dragon rage
but now lil bro doesn't even have any physical flying type moves to use (unless that was changed in scarvi dlc)
@@masonroper4817Gyarados can learn bounce iirc
pokedoku is peak content
this just in: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_seadragon