Grand Seiko Spring Drive SBGA285
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- Reviewing my first Grand Seiko Entry level Spring Drive.
A very elegant time piece.
I bought this watch at a A.D in Houston TX, not wanting to disclose the store’s name as I’m not paid to advertise in any shape of form.
I must say as a watch enthusiast, this watch is amazing and there is nothing out there that can be compared to. It’s unique on its own way. A MUST HAVE WATCH.
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The sweeping movement of the second hand from springdrive is worth all the money. Its silent sophistication. Impress yourself rather than others.
You just don't understand what you have. GS makes the watch bracelet thinner for comfort, thus making it light on purpose. Everything they do has a purpose. Nothing is by mistake. I personally like the Spring Drive, think its the best out there currently. Preferance.
These are handmade watches. Rolex and Omega are not. Tudor is not in the same league as GS.
Its just a Japanese watch’? You say? Those Japanese watches embarrassed the Swiss at the Swiss time competitions for accuracy so much they got rid of the competition by cancelling the competition entirely so Seiko couldn’t embarrass then further.
Buy a Rolex to impress others, buy a GS to impress yourself”.
Just calling it a Seiko is like calling a Lexus a Toyota. You wouldn't think that after buying a Lexus would you? Why would you a GS? GS craps all over Rolex in the build dept. As far as GS goes they are a seperate company from Seiko now. GS is a seperate company under the Seiko umbrella. Like Lexus is to Toyota.
Educate yourself and your appreciation of the company will change.
Let’s see on my next GS purchase, I Appreciate your Opinion very much.
The Time Collector. I appreciate the video👍 I was also taken aback on the lightness of my GS. The lightness comes strictly from the thin links on the bracelet. Nothing else. I have a 214270 Explorer and two omega and the finishing on those two can't compare. Even though I like my Explorer and Omega just as much. I do notice the finishing differences. Enjoy your GS, that is a stunner of a piece!
The finish on the GS is awesome, it is a beautiful piece indeed. I’m just used to robust diver watches and I’m trying to enjoy different types of watches, the more I wear the GS the more I get to appreciate it for what it is.
The Time Collector. And they are appreciating at a high rate! 2nd only to Rolex currently.
The spring drive movement is an all mechanical movement. The integrated circuit applies an electromagnet brake to the mechanical movement to keep correct time. If anything it's more of a mechanical than a "normal" mechanical watch, as not only does it power the watch movement, but also powers the IC / quartz as well.
Bought mine a month ago after buying my SBGN003 a week before that. Love my SBGA285 to bits
@Cedric Conter still feel the same about it??
Look man at the end of the day a Rolex is just a Swiss watch. Just look at the object at hand and appreciate it for what it is no more, no less.
Luckily my AD still has one as the SBGA285 is now discontinued. Just got it today. Having owned a SARB033/35 and Presage Sharp Edge SARX083 in black, and SARX055, the mirror polish of the GS is exquisite. Also, the second hand sweep is just wow. At 39mm, the size is perfect for a modern dressy sport watch. I'm planning to consolidate my collection to get the champagne dial SBGA283 before it's gone. This review helped my decision. Thanks.
I've owned lots of watches in my life and the conclusion is that a real quality watch should feel very comfortable on the wrist. So it shouldn't be too heavy or your wrist just aches. Grand seiko only make quality pieces with great attention to detail 👌
I have a Grand Seiko Snowflake 211, I brought it last year towards the end of summer. I don’t regret the purchase and wear it every chance I get. It’s worth every penny, and regardless of who notices, it’s for my pleasure. Enjoy your watch.
Absolutely, a watch should be appreciated by the owner and not others regardless of the brand
I had the previous version-sbga085- and loved it. My only reason for selling, which won’t make sense to normal/non watch geeks is that it was too perfect and while it makes sense for someone who wanted 1 watch to wear in all situations... for me I like having variation in my small collection. This watch is smart enough to be a dress watch (on a leather strap), reliable and robust enough for daily wear, it’s water proof and casual yet has immaculate finishing and it’s eye catching but low key.
I regret selling it and am now considering the champagne dial but also like the Explorer which is twice the price and more casual. Doesn’t make sense to get the Rolex Explorer but nothing in this hobby does!
Thanks for your video anyway and enjoy your great watch
Fat-Sam FatSamEIE I agree with you, definitely understand where you coming from, this watch by all means to me is not an everyday watch, I rather find myself wearing it at work since I’m a casino host, but other than that it’s not like I’m going to wear this with sports clothing or go hunting on it Hahah. I will buy a more sportier GS in the future. But I am content with it, at the moment I have few offers that will not put me on the negative but this watches are very available. My upper hand is that I live far from the GS AD so lots of friends are asking me to sell it haha
Gabriel:
WOW! You're definitely a very skilled buyer to get a Grand Seiko spring drive automatic movement for under four thousand dollars. And yes, the beautiful design is external as well as internal, since the employees polish the internal parts. The continuous movement is unique in the world, and only the Seiko team created that.
72Yonatan thank you ! I appreciate your kind comment.
What a magnificent watch! Thanks for presenting. The Orient Star Classic with power reserve is a $400 automatic watch that compares with any $3,000 watch on the market...and Orient is part of Seiko! It's a great choice if the GS is out of budget.
Oh with out a doubt the Orient classic is a great choice. 👍
I have two Orients, and the funny thing was I was just admiring the dial on one them! Any time I see an Orient on someone’s wrist I know I can talk watches with them! Its like our little secret.
Using the very best materials will make the watch lighter, other heavier models will just use standard materials
I totally agree with you, takes experience to understand real craftsmanship. My opinions about the watch have changed during the time I owned. Thank you Stewart
Why is your spring drive fully charged when you first open the box?
Nhello Mikael, Yes, when I went to the AD he was showing me how to use it so he demo de product. Hmmm now that you asked I remember he took the Plastic from the strap! Lol totally forgot about that.
If this had a sapphire caseback, I think this would be the GS I'd buy. I love the look of the polished indices and hands against that clean, black dial.
Yes definitely the caseback display would had been better but that was 1k more I was not willing to spend for practically the same watch with the same movement in it.
@@TheTimeCollector No better or worse, just different. I actually really like the embossed GS logo on the steel case back, but I just really want to see the movement.
I was lucky to find the 283 on the secondary market is great condition. I can live without the exhibition case back, I wore only my Rolex Datejust for decades which has nothing on the back,lol. At least this has a lion!
Thanks for posting this video. It's a beautiful piece. The matte dial in combination with the zaratsu polishing look great. Just ordered mine and can't wait.
Enjoy it Dan! Let me know how you like it.
@@TheTimeCollector Thanks. I've resized mine now and it feels great. I understand what you mean about the weight. It definitely feels lighter than my old Seamaster. Overall I'm really happy and it's going to be my daily wear from now on. Glad I made the purchase and thanks for your video as it helped me decide. Am also strangely relieved that I chose this above the OP36 I tried on before lockdown. All the best and wear yours in good health.
@@dvpemberton That's awesome Dan! I am very glad to hear you like the watch! For real Im very happy for the both, you got a watch you wanted and I got to help you !! Thats awesome!
good review, you remembered the wrist shot. however, in the next review, don't forget to show the case-back. subbed
R G thank you so much for your feed back, I am very new at this and I will take your advice for future videos. Again thank you! Please subscribe, I look forward to see your feedback on future videos
You made a big mistake with that tattoo
Das Video handelt von Uhren, wen interessiert das Tattoo? Sei nicht dumm! Lol
Hahaha. Why you mad time collector?
@@shakur4648 c'est la vie!
Its crazy that you are the only one on youtube with a video of the 285 model. Beautiful watch
Touching Evil Yes! I guess it’s because more people rather buy a different color dial variation or they opt to buy the Sbgx261
The Time Collector Does the dial look grayish or ink black ?
It’s black but depending where the light hits the glass you can see the texture looking just a tiny bit grayish. But it is a black dial
Beautiful watch 🖤👌
pitbul angel thank you 🙏
Nice video mate ..... Good luck with your channel
Wizard Watch thank you Wizard
Its very nice. Great choice
Its a beautiful watch man. Give it time.
Oh for sure it's a beautiful watch
Belle immagini e orologio splendido complimenti. Sto valutando anche io l'acquisto.
Angelo Bernardini. grazie, questo orologio è molto buono, lo consiglio. se lo compri mi dici come è andata.
spero che ti iscrivi! grazie
@@TheTimeCollector Secondo te è migliore il SBGA285 oppure il SBGA283 con dial bianco
Angelo Bernardini in realtà non è bianco. SBGA283 è color champagne.
Angelo Bernardini Quando sono andato a comprare SBGA285, ho visto SBGA283 e non l'ho trovato molto attraente. ma se sembra elegante
I have the sbgr261 and was looking for a dark dial watch now I am convinced this is the one.
Soilo Mas Bello good choice! You won’t be disappointed I promise you.
For a watch lighter than you think, you perhaps take a look on Bvlgari or Piaget ultra thin watches as the thickness of the watch really affect the overall weight of it. Or different materials such as ceramic like rados, omegas, Hublot, Blancpain, etc. or titanium watches like from tissot, omega, De Bethune, patek philippe, grand seiko, Richard mille, mb&f, etc. or carbon cased watch like Hublot, Zenith, Tag Heuer, HYT, Richard mille, etc. or sapphire watch like hublot, Richard mille, girard perregaux, Greubel Forsey, chanel, etc.
Tried them all before, they weight like nothing. But idk, I prefer watches that had substantial weight to it.
Jeviar Firsta yes!! I feel the same, I love watches with some weight to it as well. But this GS was pretty light to me. Thank you for the advice Jeviar, I appreciate it very much
@@TheTimeCollector but if you love some heft (with the same heft tag as well) you can try and/or buy the Lange 31 in platinum, or Omega Ploprof in platinum with platinum bracelet. I guarantee you even more big guns if you worn both of them in both wrist.
Hahah into wearing two watches at once but I will definitely will take the watches you mentions for sure.
@@TheTimeCollector Tbh, any watches that had a big dimension with the case made out of platinum complete with solid platinum bracelet and some with gold movement as well are generally could hurt someone if you throw it at them.
You would be surprised to try how heavy was it to wear an FP Journe PT case with rose gold movement inside despite how slim they generally are. And then one of the heaviest movements ever made (from german silver), Lange 31, complemented with the platinum case feels like a brick. AP ROO in platinum with platinum bracelet or rolex Daytona platinum with its bracelet are very heavy. Harry Winston Opus and Histoire De Tourbillon series are hefty. And finally, Julien Coudray (independent watchmaker), which handmade both the watch movement and case out of solid block of platinum into his watch. Although I never tried these before, but I think grand complication watches from Vacheron Constantin and Patek Philippe (ie, their Grand Chime) in platinum or gold are very substantial enough to make your daily arm workout.
Though if I had those money I'll probably choose a steel Patek, or a complicated Cartier, a Breguet, an Urwerk, a MB&F, Agenhor creations (mainly Van Cleef Arpels manly watches), De Bethune, or Bovet Amadeo.
Hahaha, you have this down to science, I think you are preparing for the worst. I just rather carry my 9mm, problem solved. I would hate to damage a nice watch.
Interesting point about the watch being lightweight and therefore feeling cheap. I wear a lot of dive watches and I agree with you, it should feel like you're wearing something not like it isn't there!
For real if I'm spending close to 4k on a watch, let me feel it. But other than that the watch is beautifully designed
The less I notice I am wearing a watch the better I like it. If I want to wear a boat anchor on my wrist I’ll put on my Oris Aquis.
@@tonyr669 haha good one!
I love a light watch, a fine watch... I have two Titanium watches, one that's a $300, or so, and one that is a Japan-only Citizen EcoDrive, calibre is 10 sec/yr, perpetual calendar for many, many years, and, a bit like the GS, beautifully detailed...so, enjoy that you can wear a 'Jewel', without feeling it weighing down your wrist, and revel in the hypnotic second-hand sweep...
I believe I grew into ever since, without a doubt a hell of a watch
Really nice, I'm evaluating it too, can I ask you your wrist circumference? Thank you
For sure brother, 6.75
Beautiful watch , good health to wear it
Good Health?? Lol how so! Lol I hope im healthy when I wear my g-shock as well lol
I've seen Rolex, Omega, Breitling, and some other brands and none have been as nice as Grand Seiko
Brother you are dead on point. GS make beautiful watches with out a doubt
nice music by Clozee!
You are correct, I am a big guy and so I like chunky watches. 45mmish case please, other wise it looks like a girl's watch on my wrist...it is from Japan after all, smaller wrists there.
for sure, I think a good watch for you would be Seiko Prospex with the spring drive movement on it from the LX line.
check them out those are big and cool
The rice paper is placed in the box to use to pull up the watch box just a heads up for you.
Thank you Tony, thye definitely showed attention to details for sure.
Did you adjust the bracelet fit yourself? I think you need to move some links to the other side so the clasp sits in the middle of your wrist. It looks like links were only removed from one side?
No, did not adjust the bracelet, all was done at the AD, let me go even further with that, they completely scratched the bracelet, went back and had it replaced for a new one.
@@TheTimeCollector wow. Shame on them. At least they replaced it I guess…
A stunner of a piece. Im very much considering this as my next piece. Does the high polish attract scratches easily?
To be honest with you I didnt have the opportunity to experience that, I had the watch for about 3months and only used for a 12 weekends, I sold it after. No regrets! The watch is super amazing. Ill be buying a snowflake in the future and actually keep it. I do highly recommend this Watch, I never heard anything bad about the polishing if that makes your mind at ease. But is like any watch thats polished, if you are not a careful person, scratches will happen. I hope you get to enjoy this piece, I know i did.
@@TheTimeCollector Hi , if you felt this watch was too light, how will you cope with Titanium Snowflake, which is 30 % lighter? did you wish you had bought the Snowflake first time around? Cheers , good video !
@@jimcahill3453 yeah lol I cant image 🤣, but I tell you what, I don't mind light at all now a days
Can I ask how much you sold it for??? Just trying to gauge the resale market for it
i have 2 GS welcome to the club ....you will get another hahah. FYI if you love the watch thats all that matters . I have 20 watches in my collection uncluding Rolex and Omega ,but my GSs are my favorites
Phillip Pugh nice that’s a big collection you have there congratulations! And yes I will probably get a sports GS. But before obtaining such beautiful watch, I need to collect a different brand ! And thank you for welcoming me to the club!
same here, have about 20 pieces and snowflake is among my favourite, along with my sinn U2-T and the el primero. (I dont know what's with me leaving all the rolexs and omegas behind....)
I know there are folks out there saying spring drive is soulless without heartbeat, but to me it's a breakthrough and I would like to see it surpasses from generation to generation.
I'm picking one of these up in the next couple of weeks but I can't decide between this and the champagne dialled -283 😬.
Nice, they are both nice, I personally dont like white any light color dial, I like dark dials because they are more versatile. but you cant go wrong with ether choice.
How much are you getting it for bro
@@shreyatongya6706 I got SBGA283. Paid about £2,900.
The 283 is the most complex dial to make. I'd get that. More special.
Nice video. You won a subscriber today.
Akshay Sinha thank you so much !
@@TheTimeCollector what's your wrist size bro?
I'm starting to love this GS!
Jannos Santana oh dude!! You should totally get this watch, it’s amazing
It's the best spring drive model, slim , clean power reserve is very minimal. Perfect size in fact I will buy it by the end of the year
Good choice 👍
Thanks for the video. Do you still have this? How have you found it?
Hello! Unfortunately the watch has been gone for sometime time, however I enjoy it and worth it. I got it at AD in Houston.
@@TheTimeCollector ah ok. Assume it wasn’t getting enough wrist time?
@@wheelsandwatches it was getting enough wrist time, but when you own 60 plus watches they all become the same, someone offered me more money than I paid for, so why not lol.
@@TheTimeCollector 60 watches! Lol. Fair play chap.
@@wheelsandwatches lol I don't recommend this to anyone, it's just unnecessary, obviously I have some time collecting and once you grow into it I would say the best number would be 7 watches, 7 watches of the best of the best you can afford not braking your bank. Keep on trading them to satisfy those cravings. I would never wear 60 watches haha some of them I haven't wear in a year or so.
Can you stop drooling... so I can start please 🤤🤤🤤
hahaha LOL
..."just a Japanese watch"? Really? They almost put the Swiss watch industry out of business...they're that good. Dude - you shouldn't have bought it if you weren't sure. Buy a watch for yourself & not what anyone else tells you or thinks - big mistake. You look like you need to pay a HUGE premium for a ROLEX & then tell all your friends about it....I think GS are gaining a huge following for a reason & SD is one of the most technical innovations for a very long time - apart from different case/bracelet materials (ceramic, titanium etc.)
Aldo Jacobi I didn’t say I don’t like it. In fact I believe it’s a fine watch
@@TheTimeCollector still sounds like you want to impress other people with what's on your wrist
@@plusgood15 🤷♂️
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
Can you please measure the lug to lug of this watch and let me know? Would be of great help! Thanks I’m advance!
Krishna Bhogavalli 47 mm lug to lug 👍
A rolex Datejust 41 SS with smooth bezel weighs 137.2 grams, which is lighter that this at 146 grams.
How about that! Thanks
This will be my 1 of 2 GS.
Go for it my friend, this watch is amazing 👏
I am curious because I am considering 2 Grand Seiko's as well. I want a spring drive and a 9f quartz
@@MrBacchus18 get them. Grand Seiko is an amazing brand
Can you let me know what the lug width is? Is it 19mm or 20mm? I have had varying answers. Thank you!
jmoney8811 size of 19mm ! Thank you 🙏
Although it’s 19mm lug width- a 20mm leather strap will still fit easily enough. Unless it’s very firm/thick leather it will just squeeze on and be nice and tight 👍🏼
GS watches are the best bang for buck. They cant be beaten at their price point
John D agree
I have this same piece, it is absolutely incredible in person!
MuffinMilitary Yes with out a doubt, it’s better in person than I pictures or videos for that matter. I’m with you
This is the best reference of spring drive in my opinion, great taste man. And mate the band width is 201mm according to the website ( www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/collections/SBGA285G ) did you measure it yourself?
James Pålsson 😏 I probably made a mistake. 201mm sounds huge lol
James Pålsson i think the band perimeter is the length of it not the width of it. 201mm of length of 201mm sounds more appropriate?? I have to verify that. But I got the measurements from a different source not the website. And no I didn’t do it myself
Look at this website for a reference of length m.robotdigg.com/product/611/3mm-201mm-204mm-long-1.5GT-belt#
Ah yes of course! Thanks✌️
Why doesn't this watch have display case back? For me, it's a no-go, because it deprives the enjoyment of looking the movement.
Well I totally agree with you on this one, just keep in mind that this is the entry level Spring drive. In order to keep the movement at cost they sacrifice the view.
I was not really looking into a back showcase display to be frankly honest with you due that I couldn't find a justification at the moment on spending that much on a Seiko, so now that I am well aware of Grand Seiko and what they stand for, I'll probably end up buy the snow flake dial later.
It's a preference, and I now like not having a display caseback as I mostly wear the watch and my appreciation for the movement comes from seeing the sweep of the seconds hand.
What is the lug to lug?
47mm
I keep coming back to this video. This is one of the nicest sized Grand Seikos out there, not to mention the most affordable Spring Drive. So little hype for such a great watch. I'd be interested in a follow-up video to this to see how you got on with it since purchase.
Oh yes indeed! This watch is totally awesome and underrated, I'm actually looking to buy the Snowflake dial in the next coming months and will put both in the same video. The watch still looks great! I have around 40 watches currently and I wear the GS when I want to dress up nicely.
Definitely be glad you didn't get one of their titanium models of you care about having a heavy wrist presence
well titanium is known for being light and durable, so it's kinda expected 😅
Has anyone ever told you that you sound like Gus Fring from Breaking Bad? Pretty awesome. Even cooler watch! Just ordered a snowflake myself 🤙
Lol never but I'll check it out haha now you made me curious, thank you and I hope you enjoy your watch!
👍👍👍
Kangsan Danny Kim Many thanks my brother
Swiss watches are like german cars just an overpriced dog shit in a shiny marketing envelope. Asians still have some honor left in their hearts to actually create good products. I'm a big Rolex fan since the first time I saw one and GS is the only brand that gives the same or better quality feeling without beeing a price ripoff. Also nobody knows what it is which is important in my job to not catch any attention
I have bought a skyflake which I don’t wear. I find it too light. I like to know I’m wearing a watch with some weight. My other watch is a submariner and it feels much better. Impulse buy at a good price but it’s in the box and sits in a drawer. Shame really.
now 2022-2023 it’s alot better with unique dials
Is it?
How much you got it for bro??
I paid with taxes $3700
Seiko has demonstrated (again) that they are better than swiss at maling watches...by your comment on "still a Japanese watch", it seems like you care more about the brand that about the actual product you bought. That GS, unlike many swiss counterparts, is worth all the money you paid for it.
I'm willing to take this off you, seeing that you can't appreciate it.
Blaxer lol well perspective have changed ever since, this video is about my first impression of GS. And sure I felt like then. Such good dress piece. Compliments my suits.
isn't this stainless steel ? how is it light?
Hey Rob, it's light. I want to answer your properly but no longer have this watch with me.
@@TheTimeCollector it feels like titanium?
@@robpeters2296 I would say so.
@@TheTimeCollector interesting I don't like titanium
Is this the Fitbit
ItsRazzeySZN no son
too thick for a 39mm dress watch
What’s your wrist size?
6.75
Big mistake not keeping it!!!
Lol what happened?
duhhh... it's light, guess you'd pass a carbon fibre cycle over a good ole steel one lol
Hahah I guess!!
If you buy new you make mistake
$3800.00, no thanks, I'll save my money for several other nice but less expensive time pieces, or My Grail Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich. I do like your channel and have been a Subscriber for quite some time now. Best wishes.
Thank you Tim I appreciate your sub, By all means I respect your opinion here as we are all different and we have different taste.
I must say as I mentioned on the video it was very hard for me to leave the cash on the counter for this watch specially because I was very ignorant of the brand and all I saw before buying was nice reviews on the snow flake and such. But I wanted to have movement in my collection and I wanted to experience the hype.... and let me tell you, the hype is real, the watch is indeed superb. I can see the worth and value of it now. But it is hard to swallow the fact that your are paying that much money for a Seiko.
In all I do like the brand and I will buy another in the future. But your choice is a really good one, I love the Omega Speedmaster professional and this watch will be the next big purchase I make.
Again thank you Tim!
@@TheTimeCollector Thank you for your honest and timely reply, it's the reason that I enjoy your TH-cam channel so very much!
@@timford3599 thank you Tim, you are awesome.