Who else will the Phyrexians kill?
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Ajani and Tamiyo have been compleated, and Jaya has been extinguished, but who else will the Phyrexians manage to kill or convert by the end of the March of the Machine?
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I cannot believe I have to say this, but if you come here and post information about the leaks from Phyrexia: All Will Be One, you will be banned from the channel. Thanks!
well i was about to say something about the planeswalkers in Phyrexian All Will Be One and how i’m excited about it but nevermind i don’t want to be banned cuz i really like learning and hearing the story that’s behind the cards 😁👍
actually wait a minute Ryan now that it’s been revealed about what planswalkers will be in the set maybe u could do a little updated prediction video cuz we were told that a certain something will happen to some of these planswalkers. (I’m really trying not to spoil anything pls don’t ban me)
Nothing wrong, but appreciate it if you at least explained why, like this is a prediction video not a place for commentors to point out inconsistencies.
can we talk about them now that the set is properly revealed and out?
@@rajingcajun488 yeah, it's kinda lame that we'll just predict and literally nothing else.
I think you’re overlooking how terrifying a scene it would be if Angrath, whose whole goal was to see his kids again, become compleated and then try to compleate his kids. I think he gets turned in a side story and then killed by one of his kids.
Alright I admit that would be pretty intense.
Oh man and I thought compleated ajani was intimidating.
Ok that does sounds like a great story but nah not angrath
Sweet Christmas that would be tough to read, especially if he doesn’t get killed and succeeds…
I really don't wanna read that but I would love to read that too, but honestly, I just want him getting a vacation
I can definitely see a scene where Ugin has to decide between keeping Bolas imprisoned or letting him escape in order to assist with the final push against Phyrexia. He may not ever reach the same heights of power he once had but I can definitely see him being a thorn in everyone's side again.
It would be so fun to see Ugin and Bolas fighting side by side 💪
This might be the moment when Nicol Bolas finally becomes a protagonist in the story, even though I think he is much better as an antagonist
Bolas will never help, we are talking about nicole bolas here
But we had Bolas as the big bad befroe the Phyrexians returned. I think it is more likely that last battle ground will be Innistrad and Emracul for some reason forsaw this and imprisoned herself in the moon for this reason. Essentially just nukeing innistrad with the phyrexians on that plane
I can totally see this happening, but Ugin is pressed to give his brother a get out of jail card if he helps fighting the Phyrexians. We should get a Double Dragons card out of this mess.
I think that Garruk's position alongside the Twins and the fact that we know we're going back to Eldraine (specifically the wilds) line up nicely to suggest the Cauldron of Eternity may be able to undo Phyrexian compleation. I think a story about tracking it down would be a good addition to the winding down of the Phyrexian Saga.
this makes the most sense now too with Aftermath being confirmed and the set after it being set in Eldraine. There's even a card referencing Eldraine as an early promo for Aftermath, which lines up with what your suggesting. With Nissa currently compleated, they might be out of the picture for a while until Garruk is back and front in center.
I've had this wild theory that Jace will have an arch where he tries his best to use his illusions and collection of artificats (from his "bolas could come back" panic hoarding), but ultimately fails and sees someone he looks up to/loves get compleated. I think this will trigger him to reach for the power of his youth, and weild massive mindbending magic, driving himself and several of the compleated Planeswalkers insane. This (of course) let's them fight for the gatewatch, because what is more crazy to a phyrexian then not submitting to blessed perfection. This would also let crazy Jace be the next villian of the multiverse, and that would be cool
I really want to see mindf*** Jace again, he is SO COOL
It really is a shame that the personality that won out to the surface was the “Let’s be careful so we don’t hurt anybody” Jace.
Liliana is definitely going to live: knowing the identity of the Raven Man still leaves plenty of things for her to do with 1.playing keepaway with her estate! 2. Having awkward conversations with everyone she didn't kill over the decades
she's still living in Gideon's shadow, having her go out swinging would make a lot of sense, and it would also make a lot of sense for her character to doubt if she even deserves to still live.
Yeah, but they killed off Jaya, who had been possessed by Lim-Dul for years before her spark ignited, so having beef with that necromancer is not the plot-armor you might think it is
I think if she doesn’t live, she pulls a gideon and sacrifices herself for someone. Maybe we’ll get a WB planeswalker card for her goodbye
Also let's be honest if you told me a year ago that phyrexians will take over two planeswalkers I would not expect Ajani and Tamiyo to be the two.
@@romyjane17 to sacrifice herself would need some buildup. And it's not like she's been hanging out closely with another walker recently. Yes, the twins are also on strixhaven, but they aren't like, On Her Mind a lot.
My theory: Phyrexians will try to compleat Wrenn, failing many times , and we will get "Wrenn and 69" card in next "UN-" set
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All I can hope is that they leave my sad vampire boy alone. He’s already been through so much: eldritch horrors, becoming part castle, nicol bolas’ whole deal along with nahiri, and then having to rsvp to your grandfather’s wedding and marking no on the +1.
they're not gonna fuck with sorin,because Kaya is already covering his part of the pie, also because they need him for the eventual emrakul resurgence, so sorin, nahiri, and ugin are probably all safe
@@3kojimbles895 hindsights a b ain't it. I wasn't expecting Nahiri to even be in the story but here we are
@@Integer_Overload it really be that way
I kinda hope Karn will survive and become the true next Father of Machines and stay on Phyrexia (cutting it off from the Multiverse) - to keep the bad Phyrexians in Check and to look after the Mirrans, who he feels massively respnsible for.
So, the Good guys win withUrbrask´s and the Red Phyrexians Help;
Koth - as a red Planeswalker - will be the Bridge between those two an then will be locked out of his Home; Kinda like Teferi was.
just like the end of Hour of Devastation LOL. that would be lazy writing but exactly what modern MTG story would be nowadays
So going out bolvar fordragon style?
@@AnumaElish Exactly what I thought. WotLK anyone?
I think the single most interesting thing I want to know is, will Urabrask make a real face turn or not. He's by far the most interesting of the Praetors and it will be gratifying to see if his (and red mana as a whole to an extent's) sense of freedom is so fundamentally incompatible with Phyrexia that he actively fights against it, or if he's still aligned with Phyrexia and merely oppositional and rebellious.
Urabrask is certainly my favorite praetor in design and interesting story. I was glad to learn he's not dead.
Okay, but imagine how absolutely terrifying a compleated version of Grist would be.
Idk if the Phyrexians would be able to operate on her tiny bug body though
Honestly I don't care what they do with Grist, I just want to see more of them... the design is so cool and I want more
Sure they can! Phyrexian glistening oil is actually nanotechnology, it's made of powerstone nanites, and operates on a molecular level to alter DNA, cells and the whole brain. This cute tiny insect will be a fine specimen ;)
@@lordhallibel3604 Ah yes, the raging debate! Who would win: Eldrazi vs Phyrexia! Loll I love both, and I admit the Eldrazi are more powerful directly, but in my opinion Phyrexia would end up winning given enough time for scientific research, adaptation and manipulation. Old and new Phyrexians have assimilated and compleated pure energy and spiritual beings before, it's what they do. Old Phyrexia had contaminated the dimensional fabric of Serra's Realm just by going there. I'm sure they could contaminate Eldrazi. It would be the best most awesome showdown in history :D
19:50 I know this feeling because Ajani and Tamiyo were my first planeswalkers I played in Magic.
Great video!
I anticipate one of the Kenrith twins to be compleated. The butterfly effect can go a multitude of fun ways
1) The uncompleated twin could join Kasmina’s group.
2) Garruk can seek vengeance as it was his goal to protect them
3) The compleated twin becomes an instant antagonist for the other sibling
I also base this upon the colors of walkers who have already been compleated. We have green/white and blue/green. Red/black doesnt have a phyrexian walker.
Rowan and Chandra are very similar.
Will and Jace are very similar.
I would put money down we get a Red/Black compleated Rowan.
@WhenTheChipsAreDown aw god, imagine the uncompleated twin still hears the maddening whispers because of their bond through their spark?!
i like this idea. it allways makes up for a good story if people slowly go insane or overcome something like that
Idk why, but I have the feeling will dies, and rowan merches the sparks into one to gain access to its full power. She could also be a good candidate as a boros planeswalker as she gets merched with her brother and her loyalty and love for him was so big.
There's also the possibility that compleated planeswalkers get green added to their colour identity. It depends on what happens to Tibalt next time we see him (likely early 2023).
@@Dragonshade64 if anything Compleation would add either black or more colorless/mixed color influence as even though the New Phyrexians are in multiple colors and some true multicolored pyrexians exist the original Phyrexians were exclusively black and colorless. In addition both Ajani and Tamiyo have green aligned appearances before their Compleation as Ajani has previously been red and white, green and white, or mono-white across his many appearances in MTG (having come from the Shard of Naya this makes sense), and Tamiyo has been blue, blue and green and blue white and green in her previous appearances since before her completion so adding green really doesn't make sense as a Phyrexian thing unless they are specifically being completed by a green Phyrexian which I doubt as Jin-Gitaxias was the one who discovered how to compleat walkers initially and leads the blue aligned Progress Engine.
There's a chance! They said that Eldraine will be the last set of this massive war. What's on Eldraine? The Cauldron of Eternity. That cup cured Garruk of his curse that he got from Lilliana and, if memory serves me correctly, also brought the king back to life.
I think they said Eldraine was the first new set after March's Epilogue. So the Phyrexians should be mostly dealt with by then. Cauldron could definitely help someone heal though
Who the heck keeps jumping around the universe leaving these damn artifacts everywhere.
@@davidhower7095 Tibalt was infected by Vorniclex back on Kaldheim, so he could appear on Eldraine along with members of Gatewatch, Garruk, and Will/Rowan.
It did cure Garruk but it was actually the King's Old Questing Sword given to him by the Questing Beast in his youth that brought him back to life. According to lore it can cure anything and give eternal youth, no confirmation on bringing people back to life though, iirc.
Garruk died and the Cauldron reanimated him.
That is how the curse got lifted.
The kings curse got negated/dispelled by his sword.
Garruk and Sarkhan would be a huge blow to my childhood, the rest is fine imo
Long live the WildSpeaker
If Ral gets Compleated, My life would be comple(a)te. But if Saheli dies, Imma play Pokemon instead.
Dude, Garruk just got restored. That would be ludicrous.
But I will go berserk if Sarkhan does.
Nah Sarkhan can die he ruined Khans of Tarkir
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Sarkhan is based because he fed the Kahns to flying Kaiju. If any red should go, I vote Chandra. We already have Saheeli any way.
I think we are going to see kiora in the next year; in the Phyrexian story or in Ixalan. It would be interesting to see her compleated but not as a sleeper agent. Kiora's ability to summon giant monsters would make an interesting threat. On Ixalan, there's dinosaurs and who knows what else as we probably do a "journey to the center of the earth" storyline for kiora to interact with, as well as the native freshwater merfolk.
I LOVE Garruk as much as getting a busted phyrexian version would be cool I really hope he stays around to see his home plane since we have not seen it or know about it or even how he’s spark ignited and having his signature axe as an artefact/ enchantment would be an amazing way to complete his character
He just got cured! Let my man live!
I still believe in the theory that we are going to get a full "Compleat" set of two color compleated planeswalkers for a total of 10 compleations. As for who I think will be on that list for each color combination:
WU - Teferi - I can see him being akin to an ultimate prize for the phyrexians because of his time magic. I can even see him being a sleeper agent right now in the brother's war story. I mean think about it, he is finally now going back in time again, something that he swore that he would never do again because of all of the damage it caused before. But if he's been compleated and is a sleeper agent then it could be possible that he is getting some subliminal messages or some other subconscious meddling that is making him more ok with messing with time again. Of course, I haven't read the Brother's War story yet, so with it out right now idk if there is anything in there that disproves this theory in that story. Because if he was a time travelling phyrexian sleeper agent, he could do a lot of damage to the timeline just by ensuring that the phyrexians actually win in the past and changing the entire future. But perhaps Teferi's original knowledge of time travel's potential dangers would make the phyrexians also not mess with time too much since they want to conquer everything, not destroy it all.
UB - Ashiok - So I remember that Ashiok already had a run in with the phyrexians as they went to seek them out after seeing them in Elsbeth's nightmare(s) and got intrigued. I would imagine that a planeswalker all about nightmares and the phyrexians being called literal "living nightmares" would be a perfect match made in hell. But with the way the encounter between them and Elesh Norn went, it makes me have some doubts but I'm sill confident in it, because I mean come on it is so perfect!
BR - Tibalt - Last time we saw him, Vorinclex had infected him with what he called a "seed" which I can only assume is Phyresis. Unless he did so "off screen," Vorinclex did not remove the phyresis from Tibalt, meaning that he is very much likely already compleated by now, so that's what I'm just expecting to be revealed. On a more personal note, my partner's favorite planeswalker is Tibalt and the phyrexians are their favorite thing in Magic, so if Tibalt did not become a phyrexian after this plot point from Kaldheim, then they would be extremely sad.
RG - Samut or Vivian - Samut hasn't really done anything after War of the Spark. Unless there is something out there that can tell me otherwise, we can assume that she went back to Amonket to try and fix things on her home plane, so from that perspective one could say that she might not even show up at all b/c her hands are full. BUT, Vivian could be an interesting option here. In New Capenna she and Urabrask had a meeting together. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I do like the idea of Vivian getting her new Red color from being compleated by Urabrask. But, there is still the theory about how Urabrask is going to betray the Phyrexians and Elesh Norn, so they might not have compleated Vivian.
GW - Ajani - Already confirmed compleated
WB - Kaya, Sorin, or someone new! - Honestly, I doubt that either of these two will become compleated, but these are the only two White-Black planeswalkers that we got right now. But there is always the chance that we'll get a few new planeswalkers that we have not actually met before, and some of them might be already compleated. This option is likely only going to happen only a couple of times, if at all, so since I doubt that they'll take away either of these characters and I need someone else here for this slot, this is the best I could come up with for now.
UR - Ral or Saheeli - I do think that one of them is going to go, either by death or by compleation, I am just not sure which one yet. They both would fit in really well in New Phyrexia, with Ral probably not needing to carry around his bottled lightning anymore because he'd be part robot now and could also syphon off some power from his new phyrexian allies, while Saheeli could contribute to their knowledge and designs from her artifice.
BG - Vivian or Vraska - Vivian is the one I am the least sure of overall. I think that WotC wants to try to do something with her character, but I'm not sure what yet. It could be something to do with the Phyrexians or something else, but like I said I'm not sure yet. Vraska is not really doing much now anymore, other than being the current Golgari leader. Unless something drastic happens with her character, I do not have much hope for her. Garruk could be another option, but like Ryan said they might not want to have Garruk get infected after he just got curred of his curse.
RW - Samut, Lukka, Nahiri, or someone new - Now I could see any of these characters possibly being compleated, but at the same time I also see none of these characters even showing up in the story. Samut is the most likely to be offed, but we haven't seen or heard much of her so who knows where she is. Lukka is a brand new character relatively speaking so I doubt that he is going to be taken out so quickly. Nahriri I doubt would get compleated, but there is not many others in this color slot so I figured I should include her as a possibility. But I believe the most likely option is for a new Red-White planeswalker character that has already been compleated to show up. This option is the least satisfying, but I don't like much of the other options that much.
GU - Tamiyo - Already confirmed compleated
But that's just my ideas. If anyone else believes in the full 10 card 2 color set of compleated planeswalkers, let me know what 10 planewalkers are on your list. Personally, I think that maybe 1 or 2 of the compleated planeswalkers might be brand new ones that we haven't seen before so that not all 10 will be ones that we've known from before. But they'd only be able to do that for a maximum of 3, MAYBE 4, since anymore and the whole "anyone could become compleated" part will lose its meaning. Because think about it, if they had to make new planewalkers to compleat in order to not compleat too many others that we already know, then it would cheapen the whole thing and would subtly say the exact opposite of that.
EDIT: After watching the recap of the Brother's War story, at least the story that takes place in the present, I realized that I forgot about Tezzeret a little bit. He is also one of the ones I believes has a chance of becoming compleated, but with his body from Nicol Bolas that gives him somewhere between a high resistance to an immunity to the phyresis, he kinda flew under my radar with this despite currently working with the Phyrexians right now. As for which 2 color slot he would fill in my theory, I'd say that he'd be either Blue-Black or Blue-Red with a higher chance of him being Blue-Black, though b/c I also have Ashiok in that color slot it kind of makes me unsure for both the UB slot and about Tezzeret getting compleated overall.
I think WU might be a new one, since I think Teferi might be the one to blow himself up with the Sylex.
For UB I agree that Ashiok could work. But in the story it seems that they’re messing with Elesh’s head, so this spot might be for a new planeswalker or a color shifted mono blue/mono black one (maybe a compleated Nissa abandons the green and combines her previous blue and black color identity).
BR Tibalt is a yes.
RG: I think Vivien is going to stay monoG, and in the story, Samut is hiding with the others on Amonkhet, so that also might not happen. This might also be where a new character pops up (maybe even a known legendary gets a spark? Like Radha or Meria). Sarkhan might also be an option.
GW Ajani confirmed.
WB, I agree with probably a new character. Could also be a color shifted character, although I have no idea who. Maybe Davriel if Liliana survives and stays the head of mono B planeswalkers.
For UR, from Ral or Saheeli, I hope Ral gets compleated and we keep Saheeli, because I would like to go back to Kaladesh and have her be a part of it.
BG, Nissa could be it. Vraska needs to stay for when we return to ravnica for the 4th time, since so much has changed around there due to WAR, there needs to be some stability. I think Vivien stays monoG. Garruk still needs to meet Liliana imo, as part of Lilianas redemption arc. Maybe Tyvar could work, since he has the color identity, and could be a way to show newer characters aren’t save either. Calix could turn BG if the phyrexians promise him help with catching Elspeth. They could color shift Oko (although less likely to happen imo).
RW, I think Lukka and Nihiri are safe. If Samut would be compleated, she’d fill the RG spot imo. Maybe Sarkhan color shifts to RW. Or Rowan to RW, with Will in UB and Garruk in mono G as he is tormented he could save them.
GU is Tamiyo ofc.
Do you think there will be mono colored compleations?
If Vraska dies or gets compleated, I'mma be sad. Real sad.
Ikr 🥺
I'll be fuming givin how they slash and burned her and Jace's relationship. And now going off and killing her is just salting the earth.
@@nikoazure5235 Forsaken will never be canon for me 😌
I'm still following the theory that they spoiled who is going to be compleated with the first chibi walker secret lair. That being said, I think Ashiok's compleation will be voluntary. It's been established they have a sort of fascination with Phyrexia so it would definitely be interesting.
Nicol Bolas and Jace playing a Silence of the Lamb style scene sounds awesome. The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend.
Yes, some members of the original Gatewatch have been around for a while and their stories are basically over.
Yes, there are several mono-green planeswalkers alive at the moment.
Yes, it would be weird if two mono-green planeswalker shaman ladies who dress entirely in green survived.
Yes, it would be weird if two mono-green planeswalker elves survived.
Yes, it would be weird if the two planeswalkers who are protectors of Zendikar survived.
Yes, for each of those, it would be weird if the older of the two survives (Jaya Ballard docet).
Yes... *Nissa Revane* is a goner.
I Hope she gets a really good Nissa Compleated card.
Even if Ajani didn't.
with teferi being a time mage he could end up being partially corrupted by the oil and try to use his time magic to undo it and could cause a split in the timeline and accidentally make it so although he cured himself he created a copy of himself that got fully corrupted by the oil and I think that would be really cool
Thought Ryan was gonna go into "Who lives, who dies, Who tells your story"
Wait, what if Wrenn pairs up with Realmbreaker? That could happen, maybe. Either during the story or afterward.
Oh she would be absurdly powerful! That would be so cool!
Oh hey this one came true!
It would be pretty tragic if Gideon sacrificed himself only for Liliana to die so soon, so I think she has some plot armor at least until she gets some sort of proper redemption arc.
Gideon's sacrifice was in War of the Spark, which was May of 2019, which will be four years ago by the time we reach March of the Machine. In that time, Liliana has saved the Kenrith twins and countless other students while teaching at Strixhaven, and stopped the Phyrexians from reaching Lim-Dul's magic ring. I'm not sure what else they can do to redeem her, and her death wouldn't even be "so soon" after Gideon's at this point.
Magic relativity? War of the spark was the last major event?
Idk trying to help as I also feel wots was really recent despite being 3 years old and still disliking their story to dm a d&d rewrite of it.
I don't know which is worse, not having a redemption arc or your redemption arc being the WoTS: Forsaken trainwreck.
I agree.
I am most torn about Liliana because:
- Dying to protect someone important during this would repay Gideon's sacrifice
- But she is incredibly popular with players
- But so was Ajani
- But she is basically only necromantic planeswalker
If Lili lives through this I don't believe she will be black planeswalker anymore and she will become some kind of black-white necromantic healer pw.
I would love to see Lukka be an antagonist into the future as I love his not-quite-villain almost anti-hero persona. However, my friends and I had an interesting theory. Lukka’s struggles revolve around never having a place to belong, always being outcasted and attacked by people for one reason or another. So what if he actually got compleated by Urabrask instead, finding a place to belong amongst his forces while still retaining his individuality as Urabrask doesnt care to fully brainwash others.
Missed this channel for a while. I think I agree for the most part with your picks. I'm looking forward to the story and how is plays out
i do hope they dont kill Liliana, she is my favorite, and if her students get in some sort of danger she will fight to protect them
I really want Jace to be completed so Vraska can try to save him. And when he's about to mind read Teferi or whoever has the big plan, she has to turn him to stone. She had to kill the man that taught her not kill. And yes, Vase is the best MTG ship.
I would love to see one of the twins get compleated. There are so much potential in that storyline.
I’m basing my prediction on two things:
One: I think we will see two more compleated planeswalkers, one to act as a kind of champion for each of the praetors minus Urabrask. And Two: which ones give the potential for the coolest art if they are compleated
If we count Tamiyo for blue and Ajani for white, my predictions are Arlin for green (though I can also see Vivien) and Vraska for black
Also counter point to one on your list. Wizards seems interested in having planeswalkers that fit the identities of the various people who play the game, and currently Ral is the only gay man in the list. Also I don’t think his overlap with Saheeli is strong enough to say we only need one as he tends more to spellslinger decks while she cares about artifacts
Glad I’m not the only one waiting on big artifact dinosaurs
We need something to fight Traxos
Thank you for doing these!
I never know where to get the MTG storyline as it releases, & these videos help me keep up (or get caught up) with all the lore 😀
Glad to help!
Your comments about the Dino-zords have given a love and appreciation for the Huatli/Sahili ship, as well as hope. I absolutely love the genre of steampunk, and this would be amazing. Up until now, I never really cared much about the two of them, mainly because the got the nice art in the LGBT secret lair instead of Chandrissa, which is my favorite ship. Here's for the Dino-zords and lava elementals!
Was waiting the whole video for a "Who Gon' Die?" From spice8rack
Aminatou sees all this coming and decides to peace out.
I doubt Sorin dies if only because he’s far too strong, as I understand it he’s one of the oldest pre mending walkers and a powerful vampire to boot and being able to do thinks like make avacyn my understanding is it’s unlikely he’d die to anything less than a traitor praetor or two
Ral was my first Planeswalker (in foil too) so I super don't want to see him die. Given he was so heavily involved in War of the Spark I wouldn't be surprised to not see him at all a part from a cameo on a spell or flavour text.
Plus, to be meta for a second, I think Saheeli and Ral are both safe because WotC don't want to worry about the possible backlash of invoking the "bury your gays" trope.
When it comes to Saheeli and Ral, they really only superficially similar. Saheeli is firmly an artifact-focused character whereas Ral is firmly an instants-and-sorceries-matter character.
That's how their cards work mechanically, but story wise, it could have just as easily been Ral building the Temporal Anchor. He built a similar machine for his Project Lightning Bug, which eventually became the Planar Beacon, so both characters are quite good at tinkering with and creating new magical machines.
Predicting a feature for Slobad as the guardian of the Mirari, either as a valiant planeswalker or as a Phyrexian zombie.
Slobad, is super dead at this point. Don't think he's coming back as a planeswalker
@@3kojimbles895 So was Ertai so there really is no reason why he couldn't return as a Phyrexian. Planeswalker is more fanciful but the fact that he did briefly have a planeswalker spark gives him some experience in this category.
Because Slobad died kind of off screen, after the main adventure of Mirrodin was over, I think you can retcon it without really contradicting any cards. I think you can say his death was a falsehood or a legend or staged if you really needed to. I think it would be neat.
At this point I think they should probably reveal what happened to the Mirari, especially in the world where we know what happened to the Sylex.
@@apjapki my dude, he blew himself up, with the strength of a whole world. it's possible but that dude has to be vaporized. ertai died in a much smaller explosion of a phyrexian healing device because he kicked the shit out of and reviving squee too much.
i think it would be a cute piece of parallelism if we see will and rowan fight each other in the same way urza and mishra do in the brother's war
Maybe Will in UB, Rowan in RW and than have Garruk in monoG in the middle
I actually really wanna see Koth show up as a compleated planeswalker, especially since the last time he was printed was like back in 2011.
*Me and the Phyrexian gang taking bets on who our team will off next and trading ideas on more Compleated Walkers* #TeamMachine
Haven't watched it yet, but from the thumbnail, and what happened in War of the spark: probably no one else.
It would be extremely interesting if only one of the kenrith twins gets compleated. Since they have to planeswalk together the would either be running from or hunting each other all over the multiverse.
Also, I think asking the boss of the phyrexians for a new, stronger, metallic body is a *VERY DUMB MOVE.*
I agree that Tezzeret will get what he wants.
Probably in the very next set.
But it will definitely be more than he bargained for. 😉
Bringing up the Phyrexian World Tree, that plants a theory in my head. What if the way "Magic will be changed forever" as stated in the marketing for March of the Machines Aftermath is that non-Walkers will have access to other planes similar to how things were pre-mending? If you have a giant interconnected system that allow the sorta-living Phyrexians around the multiverse, what is that to say about other, more live beings?
Edit: Have to point out Samut is 100% in my top 5 walkers. I adore every single one of the cards she's been represented with, and it would be a shame to see less of those.
Non-walkers could?? I didn't know that. Did the mending stop that?
Well, if that tree stays, it would most likely mean the phyrexians don't lose for now, so... maybe we'll see compleated dinos? compleated fairies? compleated eldrazi (or at least marit lage)? now that's something I would love to see. And the only way to stop them is by all planeswalkers giving up their sparks to Bolas. The story writes itself.
@@dargkkast6469 non-walkers could traverse planes with the assistance of portals. Think like the Planar Bridge, but it doesn't kill you.
@@ToxicAtom Oh like the phyrexian portal.
@@dargkkast6469 yeah, basically
Great video, thanks Ryan and Nicole!
Just read a comment that I thought was neat somewhere else. Could be that at the final moment when all is lost Teferi phases Zalfir back in and we have an invasion by Dominaria on New Phyrexia out of thin air much like has been happening the other way around.
Hear me out, Wrenn and Eight.
Eight is the World Tree
I'm guessing the unfamiliar land that Teferi found himself in at the end of his time travel escapade is Bolas' meditation realm. Jace will need Bolas to beat a compleated Emrakul, which Tamiyo told the Phyrexians about, and Teferi will sacrifice his spark for Bolas to escape his realm and be one to stop the Phyrexians long enough for Karn to activate the Sylex on MIrrodin.
Glad to see you took my suggestion on the video. Kinda expected it a it sooner but better late than never lol. I don't think they're going to kill off another Green walker... they already killed 2 in Ajani and Tameyo. Teferi will survive. Liliana will survive. Tibalt will likely die as everyone has predicted him to die. Elsbeth I suspect will die. Self sacrifice. She's problematic so she can't stay I'm sure as China doesn't like ghost/undead types. If not her than Kaya. Most of the rest of those people I am sure Wizards has forgotten about. I think you give them too much credit to remember everyone. Like Basri.... They dropped him and I don't even think he has a story. If they were to kill him, it would be because he didn't sell.
A part of me wants to see Ashiok intervene and save Elspeth as the unexpected ally. "Your fears are to sweet to be snuffed out" or some such justification 🤷🏼♂️
It would be interesting to see ONE of the twins compleated because the twins SHARE a spark and we might learn more about the nature of how a planeswalker’s spark works.
That Video, mixed with the Spoilers who got compleated got me thinking. In WotS only 3 NAMED Planeswalker died, Domri, Dack and Gideon. The ammount of Planeswalkers that already are confirmed as compleated (and Spoiler Season isn't over) and who they got gets me thinking that in the End we get either a lage Timemagic Retcon which reverts everything back to normal or a cure for the compleation some point down the line.
Garruk is one of about three planeswalkers left I still care about and him being unceremoniously compleated so soon after he was finally cured might be what permanently checked me out of the story. Every deck I own with green mana has return of the wildspeaker in it because the art and quote capture that moment and the years of hoping my favorite character would return to the version I knew and loved coming to fruition so perfectly it makes me smile and brightens my day every time I see it. I genuinely can't think of anything magic could do to upset me more than completely Garruk. It goes against everything his character and arc represent, I'd rather him be killed off if they insist on squandering his potential to further the phyrexia story
It might be interesting to see Jace ask for Ugin's help in the conflict or Bolas's advice about the phyrexia and instead receive joint help from both brothers on the battlefield... It will be amazing!
Here's my wild theory. The Phyrexians win in this story saga and the Planeswalkers have to retreat and reconvene elsewhere. The Phyrexian World Tree extends a branch to the Meditation realm, where Nicol Bolas escapes and then has to work together with the Planeswalkers in order to fully defeat the Phyrexians
I could see teferi phasing himself out of existence just to avoid being complicated because of how devastating his powers would be in the hands of the pyraxians
My list. This is gonna be loong (that's what she said). I'd be wary though, consider that they choose to compleat tamiyo and ajani, two characters with arcs unfinished and ties with relevant planes.
Angrath: safe. We are having a return to Ixalan soon and he is the pirate planeswalker.
Arlin: safe. For the same reasons you said.
Ashiok: safe. The thing about ashiok is I feel she has too much potential to be compleated. I think for story reasons having a midlevel planeswalker that was able to get away with humillating Elesh Norn is just too likeable.
Barsi Ket: safe. Too forgetable to even compleat. Also, phyrexia will have -1/-1 counters, so that is akward with Barsi's +1/+1 counter mechanic. (Wizards doesn't like to use both types of counters in the same set.)
Calix: mostly safe. I agree with you, but him being so close with Elspeth drags him into the conflict, maybe even siding with the phyrexians. That said, we already have a GW compleated planeswalker.
Chandra: safe. She is the face of magic and has a strong connection with kaladesh, a plane we will come back too no doubt.
Daretti: safe. He is a bit too unknown to be compleated. Still there is a chance.
Darviel: safe. I think he could get got by the phyrexians, but we haven't explored much about him nonetheless.
Elspeth: safe. It's pretty clear Elspeth is going to be one of the major characters in the war. She is probably going to lead them to victory.
Garruk: safe. They can't do it. They wouldn't dare.
Huatli: safe. I think she will be the one that replaces Ajani (she is more generic, Calix has a focus on enchantment).
Jace: Mostly safe. The thing about jace is he is connected with ravnica and is one of the main characters of the story, but I think he could end up being the big gut punch.
Jared: Safe. Agreeing with you.
Mu and Yiang: safe. We haven't been to their plane yet. Also, we already have a planeswalker pair that fits a lot more into the story.
Kaito: 50-50. Kaito is a big ally to the wandering emperor and a relatively new character. That said, I could see him dying for her.
Karn: I think Karn will be compleated but somehow resist it or sacrifice himself. Rn Karn is in the possetion of the phyrexians and it is unclear what they what to do with him, but it's not good.
Kasmina: safe. Too intresting and unexplored.
Kiora: 50-50. Back in the day Kiora was THE simic planesalker. Now we have a lot more and her arc in Zendikar is clearly done. That said, I'm not sure she is relevant enough to be compleated. Maybe if the phyrexians attack theros.
Koth: I'm pretty sure he has been compleated. He is in the plane, hasn't left ever since or anything like that. They probably captured him long ago and just now were able to compleat him. He could be the double agent when the gatewatch arrives in new phyrexia-
Liliana: Nah, lili is one of the most intresting characters in the story, her grief over gideon is reasonable and we still haven't really seen what she wants to do. She could sacrifice herself or something like that, but I think we'll see more of her.
Lukka: Probs a double agent already. He is a really odd inclusion to the story as he is one of the most forgetabble planeswalkers, I'm pretty sure he is just a spy. As for villains, I think wotc has enough of them, and there is probably a new threat loaming in the horizon (in fact, my prediction is that phyrexia will lose but they'll unleash some new threat/evil that will become the next big bad. Yawgmoth2.0? Maybe not even phyrexian.)
Narset: safe. Agreed.
Bolas: I expect Bolas to play a role in the story. Him being compleated would be a "look how scary these new big bad is, that can easily defeat the old big bad", but bolas being so iconic makes me think that is not happening. I think he is safe and ready to cause trouble.
Niko: nah, safe.
Nissa: my choice for major character most likely to be compleated. Her arc is done, would be a gut punch for most characters involved, could corrupt entire souls of worlds (the thing Yawgmoth wanted to do most). I think she might be an agent already or she will be compleated soon. Mechanically she is extremly similar to Wrenn, and I think Wrenn is a far cooler character.
Ob: Nah, safe. Besides Tibalt is borderline a phyrexian already and we don't need two BR compleated planeswalkers.
Oko: Safe from compleation, but could die. I don't think that's very likely though. He is a fun character to be fair, it's just people hated his card.
Ral: 50-50. He is not that releevant but him being compleated would make sense. Regarding him and Saheeli, to be fair they focus on different things mechanically. Ral cares about instants and sorceries and Saheeli about artifacts. I think having a spellslinger PW is soemthign wotc wants.
Royal Scions: 50-50. I think you put it well. I think we have mu and yiang in the horizon to replace them as the defacto "team planeswalker", but they are the eldarine walkers and maro really really likes eldraine (too much for his own good imo)
Saheeli: Mostly safe. She is more likely to die than to be compleated, as she is alsmot certianly not a double agent right now (unless Norn has been playing 7d chess).
Sarkhan: 50-50. He is a bit off the relevance charts and he has a strong tie with tarkir (I think he could be on the dragon side of the battle in tarkir), but I think him being the phyrexian dragon planeswalker is really cool and probably something wotc has considered.
Sorin: Safe. There is too much to do with him yet.
Tefferi: He is not safe at all. I think it's more likely he dies rather than becomes compleated, but I wouldn't write that off.
Tezzeret: He is explicitly immune to compleation, but he could be killed or used by the phyrexian in a "different" way, so I don't know what to think. I think he will end up being the "so close to get what you want, but then you die at the last minute" character.
Teyo: Safe.
Tibalt: Probably compleated, though even then I don't know how well they will be abl eto control him, he is just pure chaos. I think he could end up being the "wish you hadn't compleated me" guy. Consider that Urabrask is a red phyrexian and still doesn't follow Norn's orders.
Tyvar: safe. Agree with you. Also think he'll replace Nissa.
Ugin: Mostly safe. My prediction is similar to yours but the other way around: he willl be asked for help and will agree, and without his brother nearby Bolas will escape and become a threat once more. Aside from that, Ugin could be an "oh carp" kind of death. And if he was compleated (is that even possible?), that would be devastated. But seeing how karn is probably not living, Ugin could become the defact colorless planeswalker.
Vivien: Agreeing with you mostly. I think she could end up being an agent.
Vraska: If jace doesn't get compleated, I think Vraska will. Again, they broke established arcs with tamiyo and ajani before, and the drama and guilt of Jace is too juicy for a story. She has strong connections in ravnica, so she is of great importance for the phyrexians. Ravnica seems like an ideal place for the phyrexians to spread.
Wrenn: safe. She is new and unique. I think she'll be fine.
I have a big asterisk though. There is a chance completion is reversible. I wouldn't like that because I feel it goes against what completion represents, but it is possible. In that case (which would be lame), pretty much everyone could be compleated except for Elspeth until the end of the story where she "frees them" all. Hopefully not though. Or at least reversing completion has a very serious and real cost.
The other scenario is that some of the phyrexians (probably just a few) and the people in mirrodin will help the planeswalkers and as such will be spared. That could include potentially some of the compleated planeswalkers, mainly Tibalt who is the hardest one to control. That said, would anyone willingly spare Tibalt?
I am liking the story more than war of the spark, except for the new capenna arc. Hopefully they keep it up.
I highly doubt Wizards of the Coast would do this... but I really really really really really want to see the good guys get utterly destroyed by an opposing force like the Phyrexians, the Planes walkers banding together only to be crushed by mechanized soldier and sleeper agents next to them leaving 2, maybe 3 planeswalkers left, and giving Jayce no choice but to set Nicol Bolas free and ask for help... Only for Nicol Bolas to scheme his way out of it... and maybe some time shenanigans with Teferi to ensure New phyrexia doens't exist >.>
I'm sure it won't happen but what I'd like to see is Venser's corpse compleated and revived. And be an obstacle in Koth's way during new phyrexia. Even though it pains me to say as both he and Koth are two of my favorite magic characters.
Liliana is my fave and the reason why I got into mtg. I can def see her passing on soon though. When she does I hope she goes out guns blazing 🤘
I missed out on the other phyrexian sets, and now im super stoked to get some of those cards tbh.
OH!@!!!! OHHHHHHHHHHHH COmpleated Planeswalkers VS gatewatch style/ Urza gang battle!
I am still sad that we are not going to get anymore Tamiyos. I love her so much. Also Kiora isn't going to get completed shes simic
Tamiyo and Ajani are two of my favorite characters in this game and Wizards has doomed both of them. My heart, Wizards, you keep breaking my heart.
I could totally see wren accidentally fusing with a compleat tree
Karn, Teferi, and Liliana are going to be the trinity that ends this round of the Physrexian threat (possibly wiping out New Phyrexia). Karn has always (pretty correctly) blamed himself for this mess; Teferi and Liliana will sacrifice themselves to protect our metal man. Teferi's death will undo the magic keeping Zalfir out of sync, giving us a whole new legacy to play with. Liliana's legacy will be a little more ephemeral: I predict Will and Rowen (and probably Garruk) will survive because of Liliana, and the three of them will take that as inspiration to go and do great things, neatly spinning off Liliana's actions into a whole other story about these new characters. (Maybe it will even inspire Garruk to check in on his home, giving us that bit of information.)
I think Teferi will give up his Spark for a second time to restore Zhalfir.
Elspeth and Teferi (probably others as well) go on Operation: Rescue Karn. They save him but begin to get chased, Elspeth, Karn, and Teferi talk about how to activate the Sylex. They decide to stay and hold off the Phyrexians while Karn begins to activate it. Elspeth starts 1v1 million with Teferi giving her support before she sprouts angel wings to help her in the fight, at this point we also learn she’s connected to Serra. Teferi gets hurt, Elspeth starts to run out of juice, then Calyx appears to help and instead is urged to take Elspeth and escape while Karn and Teferi activate the Sylex.
I think one thing you might be looking past with Kiora is that we know the whole compleated mechanic requires 2 color planeswalkers to have the hybrid phyrexian mana..... And blue green has already been completed..... They likely won't compleat more than 1 per color pair (10 for 2 color pairs, assuming no 3+ colors)
I would like to see more of Kiora, she has been the inspiration behind most of the decks I play since I am an avid Blue Green player
I guess I disagree with Liliana. They jumped lots of hoops to keep her around war of the Spark. Although sacrifice would be in her eyes a great way to Honor Gideon.
I don't think the compleated team will just die, it makes way more sense for the future lore of MTG if they are kept in standby after phyrexia is defeated, sealed away or imprisoned (like Nicol bolas is at the moment, waiting for the time the writers need him again) so the next time they show up we can't really know if they are still phyrexians or if they can control their compleation
The things in ONE seems to kill off most of the old planeswalkers. I guess fits well into the “drastic change” after the MOM aftermath.
When I think about Jace around the Phyrexians... it really just keeps me wondering when the Wheeled Warriors will show up.
Gotta say. Karn being my favorite character, seeing him go out after all this time is gonna crush me. But he has been around so long and this would be a very fitting end for him.
Let's look back to New Phyrexia...
Karn was gifted Immunity to phyrexian corruption by the sacrifice of Venser.
So unless something really interesting happens, Karn _can't_ become the next father if machines.
Also, let's remember Melira, Sylvok Outcast, who, while not a planeswalker, was not only immune to the glistening oil, but able to heal it's corruption in other people.
Koth knows about her, and possibly knows she's still living in Tangle next to the Radix on New Phyrexia - The Radix being a holy place on Mirrodin that breaks down machines and causes them to return to nature.
Mirrodin will shine again.
I'd believe they compleat Angrath. The horror of him making it back home to his daughters just to be compleated/a sleeper agent and then put down would be wild.
If they take Nahiri, I'll riot. She was my favorite from her reveal.
I could see Sorin either dying or getting compleated. The Gatewatch and Co. aren't just bringing the fight to the Phyrexians; the Phyrexians are bringing the fight to other planes, too.
Teferi's the only one who knows how the Sylex was activated. After he gets off Zhalfir, I can see him making the heroic sacrifice.
For Lilliana's story I really want her to head back to ahmonkhet, iirc the soul of the plane was dead due to nicol bolas and it would be really cool to see if she could resurrect an entire plane essentially, maybe she gets back the chain veil and uses it's power. Both to help the people of amonkhet who she may feel a debt to due to her actions in war of the spark and Cleopatra Lilliana would be great to see. Course I'm also just a huge Lilliana fan so I'm very much biased.
What i think will happen with Calix is that he'll get close to capturing Elspeth, but he will get ro see the Phyrexians and what they're capable of doing to any plane, including Theros, and will allow Elspeth to fight the Phyrexians and may actually assist her, but once they're defeated she's coming back with him (to Theros), considering Elspeth's actually honorable, she might agree, but then Calix will get compleated,causing him to lose his Nyxborn properties as well, and he will be destroyed permanently by someone, so Elspeth will be free (alternatively she will be replaced by Basri or maybe Elspeth will sacrifice herself to defeat the Phyrexians, allowing Calix to join the Gatewatch)
I'm still made they compleated Tamiyo. She is one of my favorite characters in all of Magic and is a really great design. Nice to have some non-humans/elves in the planewalker roster.
If they can't save her I hope she gets a memorable send off.
Rest in peace o Mother of Keral Keep, I will miss you...
I think either the phyrexians (they got tamiyo compleated) or the planeswalkers are gonna use emrakul to destroy each other. The phyrexians arc starts around midnight hunt and emrakul is still on the moon of innistrad
I love Phyrexia. Can't wait to get all the commons from the Phyrexia sets.
"Kill" is a very strong term with Magic: the Gathering.
I call it "scooping" instead.
Honestly, I'm intrigued that neither Tamiyo nor Ajani really have attributes that are truly outside of their color identities. Phyrexia is no longer bound to only be black mana. Which is incredibly interesting to me. Phyrexians, as created by Yawgmoth, were oiriginally the epitome of black mana. Their creation influenced by black mana was so obscenely strong that in New Phyrexia, the five suns essentially made them all respective dual-colors with a black mana pairing itself. That, and most cards printed in that set carried an overbearing tone of black mana too which is why I wish I had a time machine.
Now things feel more individualistic even, which already goes against the ways of "old" Phyrexia.
Maybe they're not all _that_ evil anymore?
Or maybe I'm biased...I do wish a better existence for them. True freedom can only be purchased with power.
It's going to be cool to see how many of his guesses were right.
I may be mistaken but I believe there is a human who was born in either phyrexia or mirrodin, who was born without machinery and shunned. I believe she is able to cure phyresis but please correct me if wrong.
Oh, wow you opened Vraska first too interesting.
I started magic with the Jace planes walker deck from Ixilan. It came with 2 Ixilan packs and one of them has Vraska Relic Seeker inside...
Interesting theories. Although I can't quite agree on the logic behind some of them. For example, placing Ral and Saheeli in the same box because they are of Izzet colors and are shown to have an affinity for artifice. While that is true on the surface, both 'walkers fulfill roles that are distinct toward gameplay archetypes and strategies. One leans more toward spell-slinging while the other tools with artifact creation and synergies, respectively. So compleating/killing off one to give the other more prominence seems like a lackluster reason. Plus, with all the 'walkers we've seen that you'd think are replacements for ones that were killed off, WotC hasn't been quick to utilize them in any set, especially given the breakneck pace at which they release product.
And Liliana is just as much a face of the game as Chandra and Jace, so I don't think she will meet her end. Maybe be put on the sidelines with an occasional reprint or new card to remind everyone she's still around. But as mentioned before, she, too, fulfills a role in the game, whereas her mono-black contemporaries do things unique from her.
Heresy!!!! Completion is a blessing, all we be one in perfection!
I hope you (and I) are wrong about Teferi going down, but the narrative of the story seems to be pointing in that direction.
Could be possible that his daughter becomes the next Teferi (and the next control walker)
Any thoughts on if we'll get a surprise appearance from one of the supplemental set planeswalkers like Aminatou, Estrid, or Grist? I'm particularly interested on if there are plans for Grist since she was a specific request from the creative team during the development of Modern Horizons 2.
Those characters exist in products alongside the likes of Lord Windgrace and Freyalise, who are long dead. Supplemental sets don't connect to the 'present day' storyline, so it felt like trying to guess if those characters would show up would be unnecessary. That said, Wrenn also showed up first in Modern Horizons, so it is possible someone like Grist could also appear by the time we're through with March of the Machine.
Ryan: "I would hate to see all of that get thrown away, but I cannot shake this feeling that the Phyrexians are going to get their claws into someone who happened to be the first Planeswalker I ever opened because that would make it personal."
*Me, now having watched the events of All Will Be One Play Out and Watch Jace, MY First Planeswalker opened be Compleated by Vraska, along with Ajani, my Favorite Planeswalker get Killed early on*: Oh this aged like a FINE Cheese now didn't it?
I got into Magic during the Scars of Mirrodin bloc. Strangely enough, I liked the lore much better before I knew about the backstory of Phyrexia, and I think I like it even less the more named characters play a role in it.
My bets are on Liliana making the ultimate sacrifice trying to live up to Gideon’s legacy or doing something related to her being haunted by Gideon’s Sacrifice, Elspeth will survive but there’s gonna be something big going to happen between her and Ajani, Saheeli is probably gonna bite it along with Teferi. Vivian I’m on the fence about but there’s something going to happen with her Elspeth and Ajani.
I think this video would be fun to revisit after March of the Machine is released and the story culminates...I already know a couple planeswalker fates I would be interested in seeing a reaction to!
Bolas has some sort of anti phyrexis knowledge IIRC, he gave tezz a magic potion which i assume is the reason he still hasnt been compleated himself, so if he doesnt come back in some capacity I will be very surprised
My prediction is that Oko will show up and turn Elesh Norn into a 3/3 green elk
So...long comment warning and im not all that up to lore since "i retired" years ago but my take on planeswalkers i didnt mostly agree on. Ajani/tamiyo. Toast. They set the threat level at beginning. Ajani might have bit of old him back at dying breath but he is there just to make elspeth pissed(not that she would have any motivation against phyrexia). Considering backlash over war of spark i presume whole lot of established characters are gone for good because that clearly was only problem with that story. Ashiok/tezzeret. Ultimate wild card. Same colors. Ashiok has much more story potential learning from nightmare that is phyrexia and it becoming a fear in all living beings in multiverse again...smart money says it will become the new threat to all that exists therefore making tezzeret odd man out. Calix. Good points made but most importantly: heres a chance to salvage something from return to theros storywise. Also gw enchantments is a thing. Davriel/liliana. Liliana really has tied all the story knots so tight it is hard to see there be much more than redoing what gideon did. Davriel on other hand is bit...risky replacement for non-lore non-gameplay reasons. Namely he will always be tied to brandon sanderson yet he is bit of a mystery. Elspeths final stand. After the war against phyrexia there is almost nothing to do with her. Going off the limb here and maybe she gets some form of bitter retirement likes of liliana have now tried to have with daxos. I mean there has to be ways other than death to get out of the (literal) game. Karn will survive and be further traumatised because pacifists with nothing but good intentions cant catch a break ever. Kioras story is not done but colorpairing is getting full of legends and despite all the cool stuff she really havent gotten momentum to be a-tier magic celebrity. Nicol bolas will worm his way out in weakened state just to be a menacing shadow thats not too obvious. Nissa/ral. I cant see where their stories can go anymore but considering their orientation i cant see at least both being goners. Wild guess would be that nissa is done as there is replacement to pretty much all she has ever being and it propably plays a part on chandras story going forward. Will/rowan. I see these becoming literally one being one way or another. That might just be my body horror fan overriding my reason. Teferi will survive but suffer greatly. No, no justification, just gut feeling. Vivian should be done with now. The story is done. Vraska should be safe but you really could milk some very attractive drama from jace if something bad happens to her.