Ps Mgobhozi incwadi qobo lwayoe yesessss.... Ngeke ngifuna kufunda bafethu knowledge is power ngeke I'm in love the way he handles it is a gentleman... Yesessss 🔥🔥
Mina ngiyamuzwa u pastor Lungi. Kuningi esicabanga ukuthi siyakwazi singamadoda. We are redeemed from the law. Jesus christ never dispute women to preach in the pulpit.
God bless Bro Skhakhane. Stay with the Word of God. Many people are going to answer before the Almighty God for pushing their so-called "21st-century" ideologies that's contrary to the Word of God. Women are not supposed to stand and preach anyhow. Centuries and people change but God does not change. Hebrews 13:8, Matthew 15:9. STAY WITH THE WORD and Sisters must get out of the Pulpit if they want to be saved.
thanx befundisi ngokuma eZwini ngesibindi this is a very sensitive subject in the modern day church as it touches women of whom most of them have become too defensive and hard hearted, I blame feminism 4 that, ifana nokuthwala ekhanda.
My heart will be at peace if I can hear psGumbi, psTE Twala, ps Zikhali, ps Mtshweni, ps Nyandeni, ps Mahlaba talking about this topic. Abagcotshwa abadala abamabandla amaningi nabafundisi abangaphansi kwabo asebenolwazi olujulile ngensindiso saze saxakeka ebandleni likaJesu kwaze kwakuningi esitshelwa Kona kuphikiswana. Syacela nisilethele abagcotshwa abadala esibaziyo sixakekile manje abaholi bethu bayangqubuzana ngalana Doctrine esingazi nawo asho ukuthini, asazi noma ilemfundo eyafikayo esixakanisa kangaka. Syacela Power Hour siletheleni abagcotshwa abadala ay abafundisi abasengabafundi bayasidida this is a very critical topic kumanje nje iConclusion asiyizwanga uPs Given disputes then encourages women preachers syacela ukuchazelwa Kahle, ps wokuqala ayikho into evalid ayishoyo he rushes over every point, ps Lungi M akalaleleki uyadelela proving women in ministry wrong. Kuyazwela Pour Hour sicela abafundisi esibaziyo abadala I remember upsGumbi saying "kukhona izintshumayelo ayezishumayela yena afisa engathi engangazilalela ngoba zaziyiphutha manje useyazi" I liked that ngabona ukuthi experience gives knowledge ay lesingisi esingaka esikhulunywa abafundisi abancane. Sicela abafundisi abadala bazosigoqela leTopic.
@@sifisohlela5619 Don't misquote me guys ngisho ngoba young pastors namhlanje bachaza okunye ksasa bachaza okunye. By the way ngimusha ensindisweni ngidele yonkinto hoping to find izifundiso ezigqotho kulensindiso labafundisi engibabalayo kdala ngabazi izintshumayelo zabo izona ezingisizile Laba ababangisana Lana ngyabaqala bavuma into bayiphikise. Noma ngabe omuphi omunye ongasho into ame kuyona ngezwi ilungile inkinga Yami nalaba babala nezinto ezingekho ezwini Kahle Kahle nawe you believe things abazishoyo bona ongazazi, that extra information ivelaphi noma mhlampe banelinye ibhayibheli labafundisi bodwa?
@@thembinkosin.magwaza5155 As I mentioned above, this comment was for the Pour hour team ay wena that's why you don't understand my point vele it is not directed to you.
This was a useful and insightful conversation. I like how Bishop kept his cool throughout- because sometimes he ends up shouting and not conversing. Appreciated🙏
Dr gumbi once taught about something familiar wit this topic... But tnx to pastor given for clarifying n also quoting from the Bible bcz I think the topic was based on the biblical doctrine not just a point of view.... Amen
Ps Lungi, the undertones awamahle. She’s failing to respond to a question of women appointed in the forefront of leadership. Ps Gobhozi is well versed in the scriptures and he can surely teach us a lot as Christians.
My daughter Ps Lungi M need some assistance so that she is baptized in the Holy spirit, her anger is too much, only holy spirit will deliver her, she condones divorce just lightly like that, she even states that she is on her way out of her current marriage , lets pray for her.
THERE IS TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN CHRIST AND THE APOSTLE LUNGI M. SHE IS TOLD WHAT TO SAY AND DO BY CHRIST THE OWNER OF THE CHURCH...TEACHING AND SOURCING CHRISTIANS BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST GIVES HER THE AUTHORITY TO FATHER THEM. THE NAME FATHER IN THE BIBLE MEANS SOURCE. A MAN IS THE SOURCE OF HIS FAMILY AND AN APOSTLE IS CALLED TO SOURCE THE CHURCH UNLEASHING THE LIFE GIVING WATER (JESUS CHRIST) SHE(APOSTLE LUNGI M) IS A SOURCE OF THE LIVING WATER (CHRIST JESUS). DRINK FROM HER, RECEIVE THE MESSAGE FROM THE MESSENGER AND YOU SHALL LIVE.
@@banelemusa4651 teaching by which authority? Losisi ozipende njengeyengandoda ungumthombo wamanzi okuphila? Wow it seems like wena uziqalela inkolo yakho efana neyama Nazaretha uma ethu shembe is the way.
Lungi was schooled today on a serious note yoh... she's struggling to stick to the subject of the discussion...she really needs to sit down and be taught the scriptures
A woman of God’s beauty is of her “inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight” (1 Peter 3:3-4). Ultimately, the woman of God is a work in progress, a masterpiece of God’s, saved by His grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-10), and becoming more like Jesus as she seeks to know Him and obey Him
I really applaud this guy truth must be told especially the Bible has been there for centuries and it mustn't be changed now bakithi skhathele ifabrication yezwi mina angyaz lento yabantu besfazane abangamaPhostoli iqhamukaphi coz it's not in the word
Ay khona, angiziboni nje ngisesontweni ngishumayezwa umfundisi wesfazane enjengoLungi M njengoba ese_studio nje. Yazi ngathi umathandizinto nje wasendaweni.
Being submissive carries a blessing on its own, woman let know our place we can never be even as man, father God order our steps so we may know our position and correct stand..
In 2022, I am still watching this, but the man of God seems t have limited the pulpit to standing in front of people, yet preaching the gospel of Christ is mostly not in standing in front of people but in the way I am living..... we are living in the times where God now uses even little children, "I have ordained praise in the lips of the babes".....does that mean they can only praise eSunday school only until they are 12 yrs old like Christ when he stood in front of Pharisees?....doesn't lack of revelation turns the fellowship meeting into religion??....kodwa ke....ai....asiyiyeke
Bible is not a book to be debated but a book to teach,nd ungamcremi uNkulunkulu indlela asebenza ngayo. So if you are questioning God for using women,there is something wrong about you. Let God Choose nd use whoever he wants. At the end of the day some men who claim to be men of God are the ones involve in molestation of young women,so I think everyone is safe in any church led by a woman coz they don't rape. God uses anyone # ngiyema....another thing these people who went to Bible school ababiza amagama esgrike,juda etc abakholwa abo bashumayela something abayicrema not a word from God.
Part of doing what the Word says is having an active prayer life. Paul instructs us, “Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 4:6-7). Similarly, 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 says, “Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.” A woman of God approaches God with a grateful heart and casts her worries on God (1 Peter 5:7). She trusts in God’s ability and His love, and so she brings her worship and her concerns to His throne (Hebrews 4:14-16).
Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap. 1 Tim 3:1-7 The scripture is clear on the matter he must have one wife , not she must have one husband , it’s important to for these preacher to be equipped in scripture and study in context not out.
True she's rude and a person led by the holy spirit can never have such behaviour, I've listened to her preachings and umoya wenkani usambusa she needs to seek God for deliverance and that is y woman preaching were forbidden there are the exact results because we as woman are very emotional being and acts fast without giving time to think
LISTEN TO APOSTLE LUNGIE M. HER DIVORCE HAS TAUGHT HER THIS PRINCIPLES. DON'T TAKE HER LIGHTLY SHE NOW KNOWS SHE MUST LEAD THE CHURCH AND HER HUSBAND MUST LEAD THE FAMILY. I LOVE THIS WOMAN. GOD HAS TAUGHT HER SO PAINFULLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHURCH AND FAMILY.
Clearly it hasn't taught her respect. No man can tolerate that. If she can get married again in this state, I'm afraid it can strike again. She needs to deal with how she talks with people. Biblically, Pastor Gobhozi schooled her in this episode
Mina ngiyaxakeka like honestly idivorce ingene kanjani kumzalwane othi usindisiwe? Nginenkinga yokuthi impilo yamakristu ayikho based on what Jesus has layed we seem to be part time christians yet we fail to admit that.
Ps Gobhozi, what do you say about ministries who mushroom everyday, they acknowledge no ecumecalism of the church, they are everything in themselves, therefore they are law unto themselves, also Adam and Eve do not represent the married couple, because they did not get married, they were created as a family from the onset, therefore Paul talks about creation itself.
The structure of 1 Timothy 2:11-14 makes the reason why women cannot be pastors perfectly clear. Verse 13 begins with “for,” giving the “cause” of Paul’s statement in verses 11-12. Why should women not teach or have authority over men? Because “Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived” (verses 13-14). God created Adam first and then created Eve to be a “helper” for Adam. The order of creation has universal application in the family (Ephesians 5:22-33) and in the church.
Hay Lungi please marn sisi, you cannot say you ignoring the old testament, you just quoted Joe 2, God is one, God is the same he never changed and lastly wena ke Sisi Lungi please mntasekhaya refer to 1 Tim 2 v 11-15
The Word of God proclaims, “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14). God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors over men, which definitely includes preaching to them, teaching them publicly, and exercising spiritual authority over them.
If umoya ogcwele uyanikwa I ndawo yawo or uyalalelwa be ngeke kube khona ama topic anje this indicate igcindezi ukuthi yaqalwa kudala Ps Given uyezwakala and ukhuluma izinto azifundile but ngiye saba. Umduduzi umoya ogcwele esathenjiswa wona ukuba uyakusifundisa konke uthini yena
Pastor Lungy your grammar as a child of God ai ngeke uyahlaphaza unobshinga loool😂😂😂.....Pastor Gobhozi such a knolwedgeful bible scripture informative individual
1:06:00 "asivumeni ukuthi siyacabangela sasingekho" uPastor wonke lo osho lento ngeBible? Kanti akafundisiwe yin izwi or Kanti into abayishumayelayo nge Bible ayiqhamuki yin kumoya ongcwele as they always claim? Aze athi asiza siyacabangela awu Jesus koda Pastor Lungi M, wangiphoxa
Why is he changing the verse about women nezinwele It says; 1 corinthians 11 V 10 10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels. Why is he saying otherwise🤔 And it was said becuase if they dont want to cover their hair they must atleast cut it....ngoba ukungambozi kuyihlazo kubo🤔🤔
ok Mam Lungi M stop this think of taking over the whole conversation, be led mama by chairman [ Ps DLAMINI] , Ps Given is so calm n i like that otherwise i'm an AFM member so yeah we also have Pastors who are women
The Word (Bible), Was not written to Ephesus but to the Church Pastor Lungi. Because if the word was written to specific church you should not read the Bible at all. But If the Word was written to us the bride of christ we need to comply according to the scripture.
Yoo sisi, there are very few people abambulelwe lelo qiniso. Nathi thina madoda some of us sithanda ukufaka izigqoko jut when we pray or come to a place of worship kumele sizisuse.
This woman is lost,if this is for Ephesus,what bible must we use for issues in SA,we gt pastors now who are in polygamy,homesexual,pregnancy etc? If today women speak ova men in the church is it not wat Paul was addressing in Ephesus?
Yes women can be pastors God use everything for his kingdom especially when he saw that men ran to sangomas how can God not move and when he move he won't come and ask for anyone's permission 😂ngihamba no Ps Lungi M ❤
Its amazing how other people get revelatory understanding in the bible, we need people filled with Holy Spirit hayi le.....nqala # i feel 4 yr so called wife
THE HUSBAND AT HOME MUST NOT BE THREATENED BY HER WIFE WHO IS AN APOSTLE OF JESUS CHRIST. THE WIFE WHO OPERATES UNDER THE APOSTOLIC GIFT IN THE CHURCH MUST NOT BE THREATENED BY THE PRESENCE OF HER HUSBAND
Many women excel in gifts of hospitality, mercy, teaching, evangelism, and helping/serving. Much of the ministry of the local church depends on women. Women in the church are not restricted from public praying or prophesying (1 Corinthians 11:5), only from having spiritual teaching authority over men. The Bible nowhere restricts women from exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Women, just as much as men, are called to minister to others, to demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), and to proclaim the gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; 1 Peter 3:15).
That a reason I hate those people who always says "Sisindisiwe" because if you listen to Ps Lungi M uthi Christ has redeemed us from law as she is protecting herself but Manishaya abantu abamadlozi u used that old testament y?
Similar arguments are made using Priscilla and Phoebe in the New Testament. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila are presented as faithful ministers for Christ. Priscilla’s name is mentioned first, perhaps indicating that she was more prominent in ministry than her husband. Did Priscilla and her husband teach the gospel of Jesus Christ to Apollos? Yes, in their home they “explained to him the way of God more adequately” (Acts 18:26). Does the Bible ever say that Priscilla pastored a church or taught publicly or became the spiritual leader of a congregation of saints? No. As far as we know, Priscilla was not involved in ministry activity in contradiction to 1 Timothy 2:11-14.
A woman of God will seek to know God more through reading His Word, communing with Him in prayer, fellowshipping with other believers, and listening to sound teaching. She knows that “all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17), so she seeks to know what God’s Word says. She does her “best to present [her]self to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). She also heeds James warning: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says” (James 1:22).
U cc is emotional the bible clearly state that as women we can not teach over man not that they are not gifted spiritually. We are included in the receiving of spiritual gift and are needed and have a part in the church but NOT TO TEACH!!! PERIOD
Everything that was said by the apostles and prophets it is all coming from God, revelation.. everything that was preached on all these places like ephesus and corinth they apply to all the local churches they apply to all structures. Not only corinth or thesaloinica but all churches. If a something was rebuked in the scriptures it applies everywhere.
Thank you pastor Dlamini. This man of God knows what he stands for. I'm really impressed.
Kodwa Dlamini umthathaphi uSkhakhane Mina ngingowesifazane kodwa ngimuzwa ngomoya uBishop not ngenyama ngiyabonga
Ayii ngifundile kakhulu kodwa uPS Lungi ngiyacela ehlise amagama aqosheme uthi uNkuluNkulu akabhemi iwunga bese emvakwalapho aphikise uSkhakhane kanti umzalwane uyayibhemani iwunga👏
Ps Mgobhozi incwadi qobo lwayoe yesessss.... Ngeke ngifuna kufunda bafethu knowledge is power ngeke I'm in love the way he handles it is a gentleman... Yesessss 🔥🔥
Mina ngiyamuzwa u pastor Lungi.
Kuningi esicabanga ukuthi siyakwazi singamadoda. We are redeemed from the law. Jesus christ never dispute women to preach in the pulpit.
Eyyy bakith buya nkosi uJesu
Ibible ngathi lifundwa libheke phansi la
Ps Given Gobhozi uncwadile uphendula ngokuthobeka
I wish nabanye bengafunda kuye
Pastor Siba thank you very much for this platform,Truly learning & understanding a lot.
God bless Bro Skhakhane. Stay with the Word of God. Many people are going to answer before the Almighty God for pushing their so-called "21st-century" ideologies that's contrary to the Word of God. Women are not supposed to stand and preach anyhow. Centuries and people change but God does not change. Hebrews 13:8, Matthew 15:9. STAY WITH THE WORD and Sisters must get out of the Pulpit if they want to be saved.
I am impressed abouth this Pastor Given is so learned. Lungi M's biblical knolwledge is very shallow
thanx befundisi ngokuma eZwini ngesibindi this is a very sensitive subject in the modern day church as it touches women of whom most of them have become too defensive and hard hearted, I blame feminism 4 that, ifana nokuthwala ekhanda.
My heart will be at peace if I can hear psGumbi, psTE Twala, ps Zikhali, ps Mtshweni, ps Nyandeni, ps Mahlaba talking about this topic. Abagcotshwa abadala abamabandla amaningi nabafundisi abangaphansi kwabo asebenolwazi olujulile ngensindiso saze saxakeka ebandleni likaJesu kwaze kwakuningi esitshelwa Kona kuphikiswana. Syacela nisilethele abagcotshwa abadala esibaziyo sixakekile manje abaholi bethu bayangqubuzana ngalana Doctrine esingazi nawo asho ukuthini, asazi noma ilemfundo eyafikayo esixakanisa kangaka.
Syacela Power Hour siletheleni abagcotshwa abadala ay abafundisi abasengabafundi bayasidida this is a very critical topic kumanje nje iConclusion asiyizwanga uPs Given disputes then encourages women preachers syacela ukuchazelwa Kahle, ps wokuqala ayikho into evalid ayishoyo he rushes over every point, ps Lungi M akalaleleki uyadelela proving women in ministry wrong. Kuyazwela Pour Hour sicela abafundisi esibaziyo abadala I remember upsGumbi saying "kukhona izintshumayelo ayezishumayela yena afisa engathi engangazilalela ngoba zaziyiphutha manje useyazi" I liked that ngabona ukuthi experience gives knowledge ay lesingisi esingaka esikhulunywa abafundisi abancane. Sicela abafundisi abadala bazosigoqela leTopic.
Inkinga you respect personalities more than God's Word. Kuzwenza mehluko muni ukuzwa a point of view yabagcotshwa abadala?
unenkinga nesilungu noma sekuvulwe, imibhalo lento ilula bhala phansi amavesi akhothiwe uzifundele ukuthi iZwi lithini akekho kulabefundisi obabalile ongashintsha okusembhalweni Izwi lidala kubo bonke. uma kusagxilwe kulo nje kuphelele
@@sifisohlela5619 Don't misquote me guys ngisho ngoba young pastors namhlanje bachaza okunye ksasa bachaza okunye. By the way ngimusha ensindisweni ngidele yonkinto hoping to find izifundiso ezigqotho kulensindiso labafundisi engibabalayo kdala ngabazi izintshumayelo zabo izona ezingisizile Laba ababangisana Lana ngyabaqala bavuma into bayiphikise. Noma ngabe omuphi omunye ongasho into ame kuyona ngezwi ilungile inkinga Yami nalaba babala nezinto ezingekho ezwini Kahle Kahle nawe you believe things abazishoyo bona ongazazi, that extra information ivelaphi noma mhlampe banelinye ibhayibheli labafundisi bodwa?
@@thembinkosin.magwaza5155 As I mentioned above, this comment was for the Pour hour team ay wena that's why you don't understand my point vele it is not directed to you.
Iqiniso ukuthi levangeli elikhulunywa uMfwethu Skhakhane ngenxa yokuthanda imali noma iminikelo abafundisi nama bandla amaningi awalikhulumi bathi uzosixoshela abazalwane😭😭
Thank you very much Siba for presenting this platform to thoughrougly discuss this Issue.. cace bhaa.
Scela Ps Lungi alungise language yakhe bandla awuu bakith ukhuluma as umuntu one anger awuu Amen
No man can stand this. No wonder I heard she divorced several times, I don't say this to discredit her, no man will ever tolerate such
Too much anger and sarcastic
Thought was the only one who noticed that she has anger
She has really failed dismally. She should have taken this opportunity to learn from Gobhozi.
This was a useful and insightful conversation. I like how Bishop kept his cool throughout- because sometimes he ends up shouting and not conversing. Appreciated🙏
I pray for pastor Lungi she is soooo biblically lost, the biggest issue is she is confident in deep forest.
Umama Mfundisi uthi masisebenzise ingqondo. Mina ngithi vele iyasebenza, asisebenzise iZwi. Finish.
Aw yebo🤝
Dr gumbi once taught about something familiar wit this topic... But tnx to pastor given for clarifying n also quoting from the Bible bcz I think the topic was based on the biblical doctrine not just a point of view.... Amen
True
Ps Lungi, the undertones awamahle. She’s failing to respond to a question of women appointed in the forefront of leadership. Ps Gobhozi is well versed in the scriptures and he can surely teach us a lot as Christians.
Ay ushayiwe lungy m😅😅😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
My daughter Ps Lungi M need some assistance so that she is baptized in the Holy spirit, her anger is too much, only holy spirit will deliver her, she condones divorce just lightly like that, she even states that she is on her way out of her current marriage , lets pray for her.
Amen Bishop Sikhakhane awukwazi ukuba i female uphinde ube i spiritual father
THERE IS TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN CHRIST AND THE APOSTLE LUNGI M. SHE IS TOLD WHAT TO SAY AND DO BY CHRIST THE OWNER OF THE CHURCH...TEACHING AND SOURCING CHRISTIANS BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST GIVES HER THE AUTHORITY TO FATHER THEM. THE NAME FATHER IN THE BIBLE MEANS SOURCE. A MAN IS THE SOURCE OF HIS FAMILY AND AN APOSTLE IS CALLED TO SOURCE THE CHURCH UNLEASHING THE LIFE GIVING WATER (JESUS CHRIST) SHE(APOSTLE LUNGI M) IS A SOURCE OF THE LIVING WATER (CHRIST JESUS). DRINK FROM HER, RECEIVE THE MESSAGE FROM THE MESSENGER AND YOU SHALL LIVE.
A decon is an usher, Ps Lungi.
That is pure spiritual bisexuality "ubutabane bukamoya"
@@banelemusa4651 teaching by which authority? Losisi ozipende njengeyengandoda ungumthombo wamanzi okuphila? Wow it seems like wena uziqalela inkolo yakho efana neyama Nazaretha uma ethu shembe is the way.
Lungi was schooled today on a serious note yoh... she's struggling to stick to the subject of the discussion...she really needs to sit down and be taught the scriptures
A woman of God’s beauty is of her “inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight” (1 Peter 3:3-4). Ultimately, the woman of God is a work in progress, a masterpiece of God’s, saved by His grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8-10), and becoming more like Jesus as she seeks to know Him and obey Him
Salvation is not about pastors experiences but it is about the Word (Christ Himself). Ps Lungi may she have calmnes and peace of heart.
Eish ubumnene is the key, once kwalahleka bona ahh😔 indaba yomuntu nobuKristu seyifile.
Ms Lungi M is so emotional🤣🤣🤣 this topic hit her to the core
Ngyamuthanda loMvangeli..... Ali hambe qiniso Haleluya 🔥🔥
The more uLungi M ekhuluma into eloke ivela ubuhlaza bakhe ngaphezu kobuPhostoli bakhe neiniso azama ukuliveza. into eyenza noma ngabe kuthiwa uqinisile entweni ayishoyo ngeke sisakwazi ukuyamukela ngenxa yalakho.
I really applaud this guy truth must be told especially the Bible has been there for centuries and it mustn't be changed now bakithi skhathele ifabrication yezwi mina angyaz lento yabantu besfazane abangamaPhostoli iqhamukaphi coz it's not in the word
Thank you Pastor Gobhozi may God bless you
Ay khona, angiziboni nje ngisesontweni ngishumayezwa umfundisi wesfazane enjengoLungi M njengoba ese_studio nje. Yazi ngathi umathandizinto nje wasendaweni.
Amen bhuti ngyacela njengomlaleli ukubize umama umadlala azocacisa ngokuziphatha kwaba besfazane emabandleni amen
Pastor Lungi I love you and keep it up♥️❤🙏🙏🙏
Sister Lungi. M is reading the Bible upside-down 😂💔
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Being submissive carries a blessing on its own, woman let know our place we can never be even as man, father God order our steps so we may know our position and correct stand..
You are matured Sister, God bless you richly. And keep up
In 2022, I am still watching this, but the man of God seems t have limited the pulpit to standing in front of people, yet preaching the gospel of Christ is mostly not in standing in front of people but in the way I am living..... we are living in the times where God now uses even little children, "I have ordained praise in the lips of the babes".....does that mean they can only praise eSunday school only until they are 12 yrs old like Christ when he stood in front of Pharisees?....doesn't lack of revelation turns the fellowship meeting into religion??....kodwa ke....ai....asiyiyeke
Ngisho iGrammar yakho ayiSoundi😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 women fathering😂😭😭😭😭😭Skhakhane is a pro
Bible is not a book to be debated but a book to teach,nd ungamcremi uNkulunkulu indlela asebenza ngayo. So if you are questioning God for using women,there is something wrong about you. Let God Choose nd use whoever he wants. At the end of the day some men who claim to be men of God are the ones involve in molestation of young women,so I think everyone is safe in any church led by a woman coz they don't rape. God uses anyone # ngiyema....another thing these people who went to Bible school ababiza amagama esgrike,juda etc abakholwa abo bashumayela something abayicrema not a word from God.
Ps Gobhozi clear exegesis 👌👌👌
Bishop Skhakhane is straight forward and he doesn't care if u take what he says or not and not concerned about membership that why he is like this
Part of doing what the Word says is having an active prayer life. Paul instructs us, “Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 4:6-7). Similarly, 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 says, “Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.” A woman of God approaches God with a grateful heart and casts her worries on God (1 Peter 5:7). She trusts in God’s ability and His love, and so she brings her worship and her concerns to His throne (Hebrews 4:14-16).
Here is a trustworthy saying: Whoever aspires to be an overseer desires a noble task. Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full respect. (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.
1 Tim 3:1-7
The scripture is clear on the matter he must have one wife , not she must have one husband , it’s important to for these preacher to be equipped in scripture and study in context not out.
Indlela enilizonda ngayo IBhayibheli angazi anijoyini ngani ubu Nazaretha nobu sulumani🤦♂️
Phinda usho lapho hau badukile nje
Yazin 🤣🤣
I love your show, very beautiful and enlightening about our journey kwakrestu
Pastor Lungi seems to have misunderstood Pastor Sikhakhane. He didn't dispute that females may have spiritual gifts. She's also disrespectful.
Ave edelela
True she's rude and a person led by the holy spirit can never have such behaviour, I've listened to her preachings and umoya wenkani usambusa she needs to seek God for deliverance and that is y woman preaching were forbidden there are the exact results because we as woman are very emotional being and acts fast without giving time to think
She's very rude.
Buka ikhanda lakhe uzobona nje. Uluhlaza
@@dineomotloung8431😂😂😂
Uphila nge Grace PS Lungi M she's right uyayibeka kodwa ebandleni lakhe basakhupha isishumi . sona basilandile kumthetho ... anyhow akuthethwa ngalonto.
Mphathi wehlelo can you please
Ps Gobhozi has so much to teach.
Can we please have this show on one gospel ?
LISTEN TO APOSTLE LUNGIE M. HER DIVORCE HAS TAUGHT HER THIS PRINCIPLES. DON'T TAKE HER LIGHTLY SHE NOW KNOWS SHE MUST LEAD THE CHURCH AND HER HUSBAND MUST LEAD THE FAMILY. I LOVE THIS WOMAN. GOD HAS TAUGHT HER SO PAINFULLY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHURCH AND FAMILY.
Clearly it hasn't taught her respect. No man can tolerate that. If she can get married again in this state, I'm afraid it can strike again. She needs to deal with how she talks with people. Biblically, Pastor Gobhozi schooled her in this episode
The order of Running the church is in the bible, NOT pastor Lungis divorce...
Mina ngiyaxakeka like honestly idivorce ingene kanjani kumzalwane othi usindisiwe? Nginenkinga yokuthi impilo yamakristu ayikho based on what Jesus has layed we seem to be part time christians yet we fail to admit that.
Ps Gobhozi, what do you say about ministries who mushroom everyday, they acknowledge no ecumecalism of the church, they are everything in themselves, therefore they are law unto themselves, also Adam and Eve do not represent the married couple, because they did not get married, they were created as a family from the onset, therefore Paul talks about creation itself.
The structure of 1 Timothy 2:11-14 makes the reason why women cannot be pastors perfectly clear. Verse 13 begins with “for,” giving the “cause” of Paul’s statement in verses 11-12. Why should women not teach or have authority over men? Because “Adam was created first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived” (verses 13-14). God created Adam first and then created Eve to be a “helper” for Adam. The order of creation has universal application in the family (Ephesians 5:22-33) and in the church.
We must always remember that the Bible cannot be divorced from the cultural and the historical context of its time.
Meaning?
Hay Lungi please marn sisi, you cannot say you ignoring the old testament, you just quoted Joe 2, God is one, God is the same he never changed and lastly wena ke Sisi Lungi please mntasekhaya refer to 1 Tim 2 v 11-15
The Word of God proclaims, “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12). In the church, God assigns different roles to men and women. This is a result of the way mankind was created and the way in which sin entered the world (1 Timothy 2:13-14). God, through the apostle Paul, restricts women from serving in roles of teaching and/or having spiritual authority over men. This precludes women from serving as pastors over men, which definitely includes preaching to them, teaching them publicly, and exercising spiritual authority over them.
If umoya ogcwele uyanikwa I ndawo yawo or uyalalelwa be ngeke kube khona ama topic anje this indicate igcindezi ukuthi yaqalwa kudala Ps Given uyezwakala and ukhuluma izinto azifundile but ngiye saba. Umduduzi umoya ogcwele esathenjiswa wona ukuba uyakusifundisa konke uthini yena
Pastor Lungy your grammar as a child of God ai ngeke uyahlaphaza unobshinga loool😂😂😂.....Pastor Gobhozi such a knolwedgeful bible scripture informative individual
Uhlaza lo, akafundiswanga inhlonipho
Nam angimuzwa lo sis
Ayy uluhlaza yena nam ngyavuma noma ekhuluma iqiniso kodwa ulimi lakhe lusadinga amaTomu.
So umfundisi uLungi wenzanjan uma esezinsukwini zakhe(period) kmele abeneservice?🤔🤔🤔
Bishop Sikhakhane and Gobhozo God bless you 🙏
Eyyy Thixo amadoda omthetho"Obaba"!!!
Enkosi Moya Oyingcwele,Inkosi ikunike amandla ngalo lonke ixesha..Sifuna abantu abanje,kwezintsuku zokugcina
Ps G Gobhozi has sound doctrine where can I find his content
Mr Given thank you man of God
1:06:00 "asivumeni ukuthi siyacabangela sasingekho" uPastor wonke lo osho lento ngeBible? Kanti akafundisiwe yin izwi or Kanti into abayishumayelayo nge Bible ayiqhamuki yin kumoya ongcwele as they always claim? Aze athi asiza siyacabangela awu Jesus koda Pastor Lungi M, wangiphoxa
Please give Ps Lungi M some water,she is so emotional,this is not about her. This needs emotions to be taken aside
Why is he changing the verse about women nezinwele
It says; 1 corinthians 11 V 10
10 It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels.
Why is he saying otherwise🤔
And it was said becuase if they dont want to cover their hair they must atleast cut it....ngoba ukungambozi kuyihlazo kubo🤔🤔
ok Mam Lungi M stop this think of taking over the whole conversation, be led mama by chairman [ Ps DLAMINI] , Ps Given is so calm n i like that
otherwise i'm an AFM member so yeah we also have Pastors who are women
Eyy nkosinuze usisizenkosiyami uThixo yedwa owaziyo safa amadoda amasonto athile anezimfundiso zawo amelene nokisetshenziswa kwabesifazane uThixo
Ngyamthanda u Pst Given unomoya ophansi
The Word (Bible), Was not written to Ephesus but to the Church Pastor Lungi. Because if the word was written to specific church you should not read the Bible at all. But If the Word was written to us the bride of christ we need to comply according to the scripture.
I can’t lead my husband but someone else’s wife can lead my husband?
lol, I feel your frustration
good point😂😂😂
Lol u Lungi u confused
You can ask that again sister
@@qualitysukazi ,Only the HOLY SPIRIT will help you to hear what the LORD says.
Ulimi lomngani ka Given alilolongiwe at all
Izinwele ziwudumo kimina muntu wesifazanne if ngiya phambi kweNkosi ngimele ukususa ulwami udumo
Yoo sisi, there are very few people abambulelwe lelo qiniso. Nathi thina madoda some of us sithanda ukufaka izigqoko jut when we pray or come to a place of worship kumele sizisuse.
This woman is lost,if this is for Ephesus,what bible must we use for issues in SA,we gt pastors now who are in polygamy,homesexual,pregnancy etc? If today women speak ova men in the church is it not wat Paul was addressing in Ephesus?
Yes women can be pastors God use everything for his kingdom especially when he saw that men ran to sangomas how can God not move and when he move he won't come and ask for anyone's permission 😂ngihamba no Ps Lungi M ❤
She’s got a “mbusa ndoda” spirit
My question is laba abashomayeziwe ngaba besifazane baphenduka basindiswa ku Nkulunkulu ku wrong yini?
eiiii this session was on 🔥🔥🔥....Given has given Lungi a doctrinal clap..ai chaa ngyakvuma Given and bishop we chilo niyaybek' indaba😂😂😂
Mina engikubona ku Lungi M ngizibonela ulakanje angiluboni ulwazi analo
Its amazing how other people get revelatory understanding in the bible, we need people filled with Holy Spirit hayi le.....nqala
# i feel 4 yr so called wife
Eish Pastor Gobhozi has a lot to share but he struggles to be precise and straight to the point when he is communicating.
Pastor Given.Character👌👌👌
THE HUSBAND AT HOME MUST NOT BE THREATENED BY HER WIFE WHO IS AN APOSTLE OF JESUS CHRIST. THE WIFE WHO OPERATES UNDER THE APOSTOLIC GIFT IN THE CHURCH MUST NOT BE THREATENED BY THE PRESENCE OF HER HUSBAND
Ps Lungier unolaka kakhulu.... Mvangeli lona🔥🔥🔥
Aybo bazalwane kodwa kukhona enigcina nivumelana ngakho noma nibe mqondo munye kukho😭
Many women excel in gifts of hospitality, mercy, teaching, evangelism, and helping/serving. Much of the ministry of the local church depends on women. Women in the church are not restricted from public praying or prophesying (1 Corinthians 11:5), only from having spiritual teaching authority over men. The Bible nowhere restricts women from exercising the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12). Women, just as much as men, are called to minister to others, to demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23), and to proclaim the gospel to the lost (Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 1:8; 1 Peter 3:15).
Laba besifazane abama e pulpit ngeke yini balibone yini izulu
Ivangeli esilishumayelayo liyambulwa ngokukaMoya kaNkulunkulu, I theology iyona eletha lempikiswano engaka ebandleni. I purpose yeperganism engathi iyafezeka ebandleni ukuze abantu bazuzwe basuswe ekulazini ivangeli ngokuka Jesu Krestu.
Bab' Lungi M. ❤️💖
That a reason I hate those people who always says "Sisindisiwe" because if you listen to Ps Lungi M uthi Christ has redeemed us from law as she is protecting herself but Manishaya abantu abamadlozi u used that old testament y?
Yes Mam Lungi they were deacons
... ushers that is!
Amen Ps Gobhozi and Bishop Skhakhane
Kodwa lelihlathi eliwu lungi lalithathwephi
Similar arguments are made using Priscilla and Phoebe in the New Testament. In Acts 18, Priscilla and Aquila are presented as faithful ministers for Christ. Priscilla’s name is mentioned first, perhaps indicating that she was more prominent in ministry than her husband. Did Priscilla and her husband teach the gospel of Jesus Christ to Apollos? Yes, in their home they “explained to him the way of God more adequately” (Acts 18:26). Does the Bible ever say that Priscilla pastored a church or taught publicly or became the spiritual leader of a congregation of saints? No. As far as we know, Priscilla was not involved in ministry activity in contradiction to 1 Timothy 2:11-14.
Karabo well said my brother let's not put our thoughts into bible.
Well said plus putting supporting verses.
A woman of God will seek to know God more through reading His Word, communing with Him in prayer, fellowshipping with other believers, and listening to sound teaching. She knows that “all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17), so she seeks to know what God’s Word says. She does her “best to present [her]self to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). She also heeds James warning: “Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says” (James 1:22).
Thankyou Ps Lungie. Sikhuliwe emthethweni , Izulu akulona elaMadoda kodwa elethu sonke.
U cc is emotional the bible clearly state that as women we can not teach over man not that they are not gifted spiritually. We are included in the receiving of spiritual gift and are needed and have a part in the church but NOT TO TEACH!!! PERIOD
Pastor lungi understand the questions broblem you hv a anger
Lunga is being emotional and not scriptural illiterate, she must sit and learn
That's true
Yingakho ahlulwaumshado uyibusandoda losisi.
Everything that was said by the apostles and prophets it is all coming from God, revelation.. everything that was preached on all these places like ephesus and corinth they apply to all the local churches they apply to all structures. Not only corinth or thesaloinica but all churches. If a something was rebuked in the scriptures it applies everywhere.
Bafundisi bami ngicela ukubuza njengobe kuthiwa owesifazane akumele emele ibandla as umnyeni wakhe enguMfundisi mayeshona ubabe Mfundisi kumele kwentiwe njani kumele akhishwe uMama uMfundisi angasashumayeli
THE CHURCH BELONGS TO CHRIST NOT A MAN (CREATED). MAN HAS AUTHORITY IN HIS FAMILY AND MUST RUN THAT FAMILY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF CHRIST
amazwi ka lungi ayadelela