The sleds have been in storage for 6 months, and we have a little contest to see how many pulls it takes them to start up. 3 Enticer 340's, 1 Exciter 440, and 1 XLV 540.
Old Windex bottle with fuel in it, spray some in the carb, she will start 1 st pull, and may need another spray or two till she picks up the fuel on her own...shaves the old shoulder, but every body has a comment, good job men, nice sleds..I have a 1974 ski doo Elan 250 twin and a 1979 Yamaha enticer 340.
Jeez you guys are animals. I've been pulling for days on this 85 exciter that hasn't run for 12 years. My arms feel like they're gonna fall off! Watching this made me feel a little better. Thank you
After a sled sits for a couple of months, blow into the tank to pressure it. It will fill the carb bowls. Normally it will start in a couple of pulls. Not a joke! After a fresh rebuild, with a completely dry system, I do this and it works! Normally I use a air hose if possible but when not available I blow into the tank a few times. Better than pulling and pulling and pulling to fill the system.
Just wanted to say the bs the haters are saying is uncalled for you guys are basically just starting snowmobiles that are yours keep up what you r doin
Ahh!! Thanks so much!! It has been unreal the amount of controversy this has created. Thankful you get what it’s all about! Thanks for taking the time to comment!!
If I was in this contest I would have poured half a shot of gas into my cylinders and put my plugs back in while you guys weren't looking before we went and did it
I love the oldies. Saved some old jags not to long ago. 1985 and 1987 Arctic Cat Jag 440. Both were left to rot and die but now that I got em, both are running, riding, getting new paint, already got new windshields, and seats will be ready soon.
Haha, okay. I am surprised that none of the pull starts or the ropes held up, though. I love your sleds! I have an SRV, Bravo, Phazer, Phazer2, Exciter2, Vmax600 triple. The SRV has been the favorite of all.
45 pulls on 1st sled,2nd 27,3rd 38,4th 83,5th 50,back to 4th 13. I've always used mixed gas in a oil can squirter plus being more than 1 person have someone hold hand over carb helps too.
i got a 81 cat 440 i just got it running for the year and i found every year put in a new set of spark plugs blow in the tank and give her some either and change the fuel pump every year or 2
fucking no way, that old xlv 540 is my old sled, that's cool as shit. she never liked to start and that's why i sold her, i broke the old airbox and put a big ass air pod on it instead, i lost the carb float needle on the trail.
Absolutely, good for those young lads to get a work out in too lol. Love the vintage Yamaha’s you own. My 71 came from my Grandpa, he bought it in 72. Way more valuable to me then my 18 Summit lol
@@justinsteinley4093 most definitely!! I know some think we are abusing these sleds doing this but they mean a lot and we put a lot of work into them. We lost many in a shop fire and it was devastating. They don’t hold a ton of monetary value but the time spent working together is priceless!
Tom Mcallister was about the contest. A dad and his kid and nephew. All about fun. We run a vintage racing league so we know the machines and treat them well. All in good spirits for the start of the season. :)
A 2 stroke engine will start a lot faster if you can have someone hold the throttle open slightly while the choke is on, this allows the vacuum of the engine to go to the choke butterfly instead of the throttle, the engine will prime faster.
@@kristinegottsacker3339 what!! That is awesome, I have a 74 AC 340 ,75 AC 440, but those sleds you guys have are all gone here in Montana, thank you for your response, I bet those boys were sore as hell the next day!
Check for spark guys save on your arms. Hint go get some starting fluid. I also remember doing this as I had ski doos in the 70's and 80's. Good luck starting them.
My old Ski doos had primers, 3 or 4 good pumps and 1 pull maybe 2. Had a 98 machz 800 only had a choke, maybe 10 pulls after sitting but that was enough with that animal.
Fuel was on. However, the in-tank fuel filter had disintegrated and was plugging the pickup tube. A full fuel system overhaul fixed her right up! Unfortunately though, we lost these sleds in a fire 3 days ago :(
@@kristinegottsacker3339 really you lost them sleds in a fire? if so that really sucks some them Sled was very good shape especially that first sled you started up
david ellsworth yea unfortunately we did lose seven sleds in the fire. More than even in this vid. It was pretty heartbreaking!! All the hours of work put into them and joy doing it. 🙁
So terribly sad to read that. I love vintage Enticers. That first one, the Excel 3 was (is) my all time favorite. Had clippings from newspaper ads taped to my bedroom wall. Have you been able to find replacements for some of the sleds you've lost? The prices are getting pretty ridiculous on those old beauts.
Why pull your arms off and risk destroying your pull starter like that? Keep some brake clean around and spray some in the carb to “prime it up”. If you think you’re hurting the cylinder spray some penetrating fluid with it. Or pull out a plug and put some fuel inside. I have all old Yamaha’s, they all fire right up this way, every year. Some, have little vent tubes that you can blast through.
Jesus Christ. Full choke until it kicks. Down one click. If it doesn't kick again, shut the choke OFF and hold it wide open. All of these sleds are flooding and because the motors are cold it's gradually burning off the excess gas. Flooded with a capital F, the amount of smoke puffing out when they finally start confirms that. The reason you get lucky if you walk away for a day is because the gas evaporates overnight. Trust that I absolutely know what I'm talking about. 51 years old, decades of snowmobile and moto x racing, came home for the first time after being born to a family Yamaha dealership. Rode 2 up with the Yamaha east coast sales managers daughter at her house in NY on an SRX 340. Full throttle opens the carburetor up to atmosphere. It draws fuel in using a VACUUM that is created by the pistons going up in the cylinders. The vacuum is behind the throttle valve and it pulls gas out of the bowl through the jets. There is an idle jet, main jet, and a choke jet. When you shut the choke OFF and hold it wide open and pull, there is not enough velocity to create a vacuum on a hole that big. So it sucks in a ton of air and no gas while you are pulling. Eventually will sputter and start on the next couple few pulls. Do NOT LET GO OF THE THROTTLE UNTIL IT'S SPINNING FASTER THAN IDLE! Then slowly back off. Every single one of those should have the back end lifted (preferably with a stand) and held wide open running until they (clear out) then a couple of quick revs until it's idling without help. One more tip, shutting the choke OFF prematurely if wasn't flooded can oil foul a plug in a second. Mixture goes too lean off idle so one cylinder may not fire. Flooring it won't help. Flipping the choke on one click usually fires up the missing cylinder. If not cruising cracked open throttle position with light load can usually bring it back.
MrSageflyfisher thanks but I think you missed the point. All in good fun with my kid and nephew. All about experiences. We were having fun. These are old vintage sleds that we work on and play with. Just a fun natured contest. Worth every minute. IMO.
Beautiful sled just painful to watch that they don't know how to start a after they've been setting a long time painful too much effort even if they set for 3 years we normally get them to start within three poles
All about a fun experience. Please see previous comments. Trust me I know how to work on these. We run a racing league. This video is actually here for memory because many of these sleds burned in a horrible fire. So these memories with my kids are priceless.
Think everyone agrees this is a video of how to destroy your rewind..common...noone thought to being a plug wrench and some gas...coulda turned 50 pulls into 3
I think you missed the point. All in fun with the kiddos. Competition to see how the sleds held up. We wrench on these all season for fun..together. We try to make this a FUN learning experience. These are all old sleds. That we fix and play with. So we decided to do this little “experiment” for fun! Our work on cheap sleds. That we always get working. 😉It’s the time and fun with my kids that I love.
@@kristinegottsacker3339 I get that.. if you ever had to fix a recoil cuz your pulled it to much You would understand.. could of had the same competition who cycled the system less...on top of watching them try to dry start them...was painful to watch..
@@projectstruggle7594 been done. Trust me. We love these sleds. It’s not done to be painful. We dealt with painful when many sleds in this video ended up being burned in a horrible fire. That was worse. All the time with my boys gone. We race these things each season. And love them. Really!!
It’s just my boys and I having some fun. It’s why it was a contest. Just to see whose sled “held up” the best and could start without all the bells and whistles. 😄
Old Windex bottle with fuel in it, spray some in the carb, she will start 1 st pull, and may need another spray or two till she picks up the fuel on her own...shaves the old shoulder, but every body has a comment, good job men, nice sleds..I have a 1974 ski doo Elan 250 twin and a 1979 Yamaha enticer 340.
And if you can't access the carbs just pull the plugs out and dump mixed gas down the cylinders
A hand primer bulb in the fuel line is a life saver when staring a cold motor.
Or dumping mixed gas down the cylinders. One pull will do it.
Jeez you guys are animals. I've been pulling for days on this 85 exciter that hasn't run for 12 years. My arms feel like they're gonna fall off! Watching this made me feel a little better. Thank you
If you dump some mixed gas down the cylinders it'll start in one pull. Do it first start every year to mine
as soon as the temps dip into freezing, they'll start right up
Little trick for first start of the year!blow air into the fuel tank with your mouth for about 10 seconds they start tight up every time
After a sled sits for a couple of months, blow into the tank to pressure it.
It will fill the carb bowls. Normally it will start in a couple of pulls.
Not a joke! After a fresh rebuild, with a completely dry system, I do this and it works! Normally I use a air hose if possible but when not available I blow into the tank a few times. Better than pulling and pulling and pulling to fill the system.
Oh yeah that’s an Exciter they all sound the same.👍
40th pull every time
Just wanted to say the bs the haters are saying is uncalled for you guys are basically just starting snowmobiles that are yours keep up what you r doin
Ahh!! Thanks so much!! It has been unreal the amount of controversy this has created. Thankful you get what it’s all about! Thanks for taking the time to comment!!
I like to let my sleds run for a few minutes before moving them after they have been sitting all summer.
Nice collection! I just got a 1975 yamaha gp338f that has been sitting since '96. I'm hoping to get it running before winter.
Never seen enticers start that hard 😳 it's even warm out
I just got a 89 skidoo tundra, it fired the first 2 pulls, the 3rd it fully started
If I was in this contest I would have poured half a shot of gas into my cylinders and put my plugs back in while you guys weren't looking before we went and did it
Hell yea I'm not the only one that knows that trick. Works every single time 😂
I guess there no better than the Others of that ERA
I love the oldies. Saved some old jags not to long ago. 1985 and 1987 Arctic Cat Jag 440. Both were left to rot and die but now that I got em, both are running, riding, getting new paint, already got new windshields, and seats will be ready soon.
That’s amazing!! Love that!
Geez you guys....Lift them up and let the track spin before you drive them. That's so hard on the sleds.
They'll be fine
I little splash of fuel in the cylinders sure would help you light those babies up after sitting for months not running.
That race sled with the tractor style pipe is sick
I know I’m ALONE. Thanks!!!
I know I’m ALONE. Feel free to check out some of the racing vids to see more of it!
Haha, okay. I am surprised that none of the pull starts or the ropes held up, though. I love your sleds! I have an SRV, Bravo, Phazer, Phazer2, Exciter2, Vmax600 triple. The SRV has been the favorite of all.
Sweet!I love the old Yamahas!
You should hold a contest for best sounding vintage sled from subscribers
Ameritude Great idea. The sound is the best part!!
If you hold down the throttle while starting it it should start easier. That’s what I do with my 95 puma
Wanna be careful tho, could flood
You shouldn't have to hold the throttle wide open to start it, Carbs need to be adjusted its getting to much gas
Or just dump a little mixed gas down the cylinders. It'll start in 1 pull
Got that high performance rain cap giving you a bit more backpressure in that tractor stack muffler 😂
Same comment as everyone else. Prime the carbs. The pulse pump takes forever.
It's 45 times on the first snowmobile wow that's alot of pushing a baby I can do it within less then 10 times
Pabst can and a demon carby sticker!!!!! Heeeeellllll ya babe.
Love it
45 pulls on 1st sled,2nd 27,3rd 38,4th 83,5th 50,back to 4th 13. I've always used mixed gas in a oil can squirter plus being more than 1 person have someone hold hand over carb helps too.
i got a 81 cat 440 i just got it running for the year and i found every year put in a new set of spark plugs blow in the tank and give her some either and change the fuel pump every year or 2
Three heart attacks, two slip disks, one major stroke, and a dislocated hip. Ok, who wants to start a snow machine?
That exiter u have I have one at my house same exact colors
Why not prime the plugs? Works everytime.
Not smart enough obviously
fucking no way, that old xlv 540 is my old sled, that's cool as shit. she never liked to start and that's why i sold her, i broke the old airbox and put a big ass air pod on it instead, i lost the carb float needle on the trail.
Gas or brake clean in the spark plug. One or two pulls will do it.
How many pulls? more like how many times I got a dump gas down the cylinders
First sled it took 47 I counted so you know
Larry Enticer would be shiting himself if you saw this video
14:35 what is ponyboy n daily doing there? from the outsiders 😆
I counted 38 for the third one but whos counting
Starting fluid
Short Bus what fun would that be? 😉
Try it with a vmax 700, take 30 plus pulls after sitting all summer. 2 or 3 the rest of the winter. Pulls over alot harder than a 340 enticer
Should let them warm up a bit longer no? Also a splash of premix down the spark plug holes. My 71 GP396 has a primer ball, very easy
We always like to try it first of the season without any “help”. That’s why it’s a contest. 😉
Absolutely, good for those young lads to get a work out in too lol. Love the vintage Yamaha’s you own. My 71 came from my Grandpa, he bought it in 72. Way more valuable to me then my 18 Summit lol
@@justinsteinley4093 most definitely!! I know some think we are abusing these sleds doing this but they mean a lot and we put a lot of work into them. We lost many in a shop fire and it was devastating. They don’t hold a ton of monetary value but the time spent working together is priceless!
My1975 ac 440,hurts to start,for days after
Hey I just bought 2 1975 AC 440 cheetas and i cant get the flywheels to pull off wondering if you have ever had any issues?
Gotta put some mixed gas down the plugs...
96Duelfuel they wanted to make a contest out of it. That would make them start too easily. 😉
Tom Mcallister was about the contest. A dad and his kid and nephew. All about fun. We run a vintage racing league so we know the machines and treat them well. All in good spirits for the start of the season. :)
did you ever here of gas in the cylinder ? lol pull man pull !!!
I would have opened the hood by now and helped it a long put something in the tank and let it drip in like a stick or a cloth
A 2 stroke engine will start a lot faster if you can have someone hold the throttle open slightly while the choke is on, this allows the vacuum of the engine to go to the choke butterfly instead of the throttle, the engine will prime faster.
Do you know if you blow gas up to the carb you don't have to pull a hundred 20 times
Branden Burg yea thanks! It was just more for “fun” to see which would start the quickest without doing anything.
Plz list which sleds those are,very cool
Sky B 1987 Excel III (brown) the next two are 1983 Excel III’s (black). Then 1978 Exciter 440 (White and black). Then 1985? Excel V Two up. 😊
@@kristinegottsacker3339 what!! That is awesome, I have a 74 AC 340 ,75 AC 440, but those sleds you guys have are all gone here in Montana, thank you for your response, I bet those boys were sore as hell the next day!
Sky B oh yea!! They were super sore! Funny how the young guys can’t keep up. Lol. Thanks for commenting!!
Exactly, it's good for em!! Lol ,y'all have a good season,be safe,thanks again for responding
Check for spark guys save on your arms. Hint go get some starting fluid. I also remember doing this as I had ski doos in the 70's and 80's. Good luck starting them.
Spray some starter fluid on the plug or in the cylinders👍
Pour gas down the cylinder instead. Much healthier.
My old Ski doos had primers, 3 or 4 good pumps and 1 pull maybe 2. Had a 98 machz 800 only had a choke, maybe 10 pulls after sitting but that was enough with that animal.
A torch pressurize the tank and rather then pulling yer guts out get a impact on the clutch
Try cleaning a carb once in a while lol and some fresh gas
James Clement I gotcha. This was all about fun. Fun with my son and nephew to see if anything would start.
and did ya turn on the Fuel valve all exciters have one
Fuel was on. However, the in-tank fuel filter had disintegrated and was plugging the pickup tube. A full fuel system overhaul fixed her right up! Unfortunately though, we lost these sleds in a fire 3 days ago :(
@@kristinegottsacker3339 really you lost them sleds in a fire? if so that really sucks some them Sled was very good shape especially that first sled you started up
david ellsworth yea unfortunately we did lose seven sleds in the fire. More than even in this vid. It was pretty heartbreaking!! All the hours of work put into them and joy doing it. 🙁
So terribly sad to read that. I love vintage Enticers. That first one, the Excel 3 was (is) my all time favorite. Had clippings from newspaper ads taped to my bedroom wall. Have you been able to find replacements for some of the sleds you've lost? The prices are getting pretty ridiculous on those old beauts.
Why pull your arms off and risk destroying your pull starter like that? Keep some brake clean around and spray some in the carb to “prime it up”. If you think you’re hurting the cylinder spray some penetrating fluid with it. Or pull out a plug and put some fuel inside. I have all old Yamaha’s, they all fire right up this way, every year. Some, have little vent tubes that you can blast through.
James Padeni it was all in good fun with my son and nephew. Trust me those machines get plenty of TLC. 😊
Brake clean??? What? You will lean out your rings.
Just dump mixed gas down the cylinders lol
why dont you use Starting Fluid 2 pulls all my Yamaha's start up
You can make an engine become ether dependent if you use it too often
музейные ценности
You should put in the gas in spark plug
Ouch
Taint no gas in it .
I feel bad for the recoils.
I will take the 440 yammie for 2800 cash, final offer.
Jesus Christ. Full choke until it kicks. Down one click. If it doesn't kick again, shut the choke OFF and hold it wide open. All of these sleds are flooding and because the motors are cold it's gradually burning off the excess gas. Flooded with a capital F, the amount of smoke puffing out when they finally start confirms that. The reason you get lucky if you walk away for a day is because the gas evaporates overnight. Trust that I absolutely know what I'm talking about. 51 years old, decades of snowmobile and moto x racing, came home for the first time after being born to a family Yamaha dealership. Rode 2 up with the Yamaha east coast sales managers daughter at her house in NY on an SRX 340.
Full throttle opens the carburetor up to atmosphere. It draws fuel in using a VACUUM that is created by the pistons going up in the cylinders. The vacuum is behind the throttle valve and it pulls gas out of the bowl through the jets. There is an idle jet, main jet, and a choke jet. When you shut the choke OFF and hold it wide open and pull, there is not enough velocity to create a vacuum on a hole that big. So it sucks in a ton of air and no gas while you are pulling. Eventually will sputter and start on the next couple few pulls. Do NOT LET GO OF THE THROTTLE UNTIL IT'S SPINNING FASTER THAN IDLE! Then slowly back off. Every single one of those should have the back end lifted (preferably with a stand) and held wide open running until they (clear out) then a couple of quick revs until it's idling without help.
One more tip, shutting the choke OFF prematurely if wasn't flooded can oil foul a plug in a second. Mixture goes too lean off idle so one cylinder may not fire. Flooring it won't help. Flipping the choke on one click usually fires up the missing cylinder. If not cruising cracked open throttle position with light load can usually bring it back.
Thanks for your wisdom. Have a good day!
@@kristinegottsacker3339 You too! I hope it saves some broken backs lol
" You can't fix stupid".
MrSageflyfisher thanks but I think you missed the point. All in good fun with my kid and nephew. All about experiences. We were having fun. These are old vintage sleds that we work on and play with. Just a fun natured contest. Worth every minute. IMO.
Put electric start on them
Little gas down cylinders
Beautiful sled just painful to watch that they don't know how to start a after they've been setting a long time painful too much effort even if they set for 3 years we normally get them to start within three poles
All about a fun experience. Please see previous comments. Trust me I know how to work on these. We run a racing league. This video is actually here for memory because many of these sleds burned in a horrible fire. So these memories with my kids are priceless.
Think everyone agrees this is a video of how to destroy your rewind..common...noone thought to being a plug wrench and some gas...coulda turned 50 pulls into 3
I think you missed the point. All in fun with the kiddos. Competition to see how the sleds held up. We wrench on these all season for fun..together. We try to make this a FUN learning experience. These are all old sleds. That we fix and play with. So we decided to do this little “experiment” for fun! Our work on cheap sleds. That we always get working. 😉It’s the time and fun with my kids that I love.
@@kristinegottsacker3339 I get that.. if you ever had to fix a recoil cuz your pulled it to much You would understand.. could of had the same competition who cycled the system less...on top of watching them try to dry start them...was painful to watch..
@@projectstruggle7594 been done. Trust me. We love these sleds. It’s not done to be painful. We dealt with painful when many sleds in this video ended up being burned in a horrible fire. That was worse. All the time with my boys gone. We race these things each season. And love them. Really!!
makes me want go and get some old two stokes..not...4 stoke all the way!!!!
what about primer loll
jesus don't u guys know how to start sleds.. i guess not eh
It’s just my boys and I having some fun. It’s why it was a contest. Just to see whose sled “held up” the best and could start without all the bells and whistles. 😄
Fuck u man that's not nice
Must be low compression or fouled plug. All junk.