Microsoft tests Project Natick, self-sustaining underwater datacenter
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Microsoft's Project Natick is leveraging technology from submarines and working with pioneers in marine energy for the second phase of its moonshot to develop self-sufficient underwater datacenters that can deliver rapid and agile cloud services to coastal cities.
Liquid cooling on entirely different level lol
We have problems. Let system administrator take scuba and go for fixing! =)
As a sysadmin and a scuba diver sounds like a Win Win!
And here comes my fav Ubuntu....🤗🤗🤗
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I am curious about the security ramifications of this deployment as well. Granted it is a sealed capsule, but physically it looks accessible to anyone that found its location. Interesting concept however; it is great research is being done to reduce energy consumption.
If someone opens it water will rush in and destroy the electronics inside. I'm sure they have sensors to detect how the undersea currents affect the capsule. Those sensors could notify them if someone tries to tow it away.
nope they not
Yeah and what happen if they accidentally hook the cable of this underwater datacenter?
Ships don't drop anchors at those depths.
Are you sure , are you really sure?
preparing for Project Marsick
Glad to see Microsoft is continuing with this project. I enjoyed reading about phase 1 and hopefully phase 2 goes even better! Maybe decades from now most of our data centers will be tubes under the sea and not big warehouses on land.
Seems cool but why doesn't the low ocean temperature cool the servers directly without such a plethora of fans... For example a system where one side is pure heatsink and the hottest stuff is attached there to the point there almost a direct connection between the heat and the cold... I'm assuming this is done but they don't explain it at all.
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seems like it wold be easier and more secure to drop that MS turd in a cold lake somewhere? idk
MICROSOFT THIS IS CRAZY!
1. A russian submarine can take it out with one hit
2. dont run Azure cloud services on that data centers!
3. If the place where data center locate is not protected and have no restriction of physical access , than it only mean that is insecure and can be used as potential entry point for hackers.
4. what about hardware maintenance like , firmware update and software patches?
A Russian submarine can take anything out in "one hit"
You dont get my point, the point is this area is not protected and if not protected means data not safe and vulnerable and you shouldn't store there anything sensitive and critical to you business and your customers!!!
You really that thick? "Sure I'll go scuba down to it and steal some data, ohh wait. Water flooded in and destroyed everything." I also feel like they have a depth sensor or something to figure out if someone is lifting that thing up. Lifting it up can't be done with a small fishing boat either, that thing weighs a fuckton and a half.
Lol, it only question of logistics , if somebody have enough resources and interest in data which is stored at those servers , then it is not a question of time but rather of when it will happen and if the area around the container not protected i am pretty sure that this will happen rather very soon.
Just as they can break in to google data centers around the world? You have to realize that this is only a proof of concept. They are testing if this would be a viable option for the future, they are not selling this as a service to anyone in a long time. I'm sure they have something to keep the pods from being stolen, but I think it's less likely that they will be stolen than that someone infiltrates an existing data center and steals data from there. Or why not just try to hack those underwater pods? Hackers have succeeded in stealing all sorts of things in the past, way less effort than lifting that shit up from the seabed, transporting it somewhere and then getting it up and running again just to steal some data, might not even be very sensitive data.
I do not see any black people on project staff. Thoughts Microsoft?
herewegofans it's American company working with french people in the most remote island in Scotland please get a life mate it's boring seeing comments like this
Classic idealog
herewegofans ideology is necessary to keep reason amongst the masses like yourself who doesn't explore context and geography before asking a question but rather asserting murrr diversity
"Its (an) American company" > yet no representation from the black talent that propels them from our great nation Mate. Masses like me enjoy doutles like you who don't know anything in regards to the company for which I spoke, you know, "The Business of Inclusion."
herewegofans it's Microsoft research which is basically PhDs who are obviously going to mostly white it's not even realistic. obviously African American students in school now hopefully join in Next decade but first just normal job roles need the type of diversity you talk of but this is niche and small research work it isn't going to be diverse demographic wise or hell gender.
Sysadmin with diving certificate is wanted :)
This gives a whole other meaning to the words "deep dive"
Or a ROV pilot? :)
I've seen more than one sysadmin that looks like a whale....
Cloud is going under Ocean ... These guys are making it more hard for me to explain it to my parents
This is misleading, my laptop no longer works after I put it in the lake behind my house.
So... Xbox Live will stay available even after an energy apocalypse? Awesome! :-D
but can it run minecraft?
Image 60 years from now having a huge nuclear fusion power generator under the ocean.
Microsoft is finally coming around and realizing that all of their products would be better at the bottom of the sea.
Only took 50 years worth of the average energy consumption of 50 households to get this thing off the ground (and that's not counting getting it into the water)🐙🦑🐳🐬🐟🐠🐡🦀🦈😃
So scuba diving can now be a technical part of our résumé?
So many questions that their project page doesn't cover. How did they deal with heat? It's a sealed tube at 35-50 feet, they appear to be using standard racks with fans, so I'm guess there is some kind of intercooler setup, but with that kind of density in a sealed environment it would seem they still end up with heat soak. What kind of air mixture are they using? How do they deal with hardware failures (do they just isolate it and wait until the 5 year change cycle?) . They must be planning on using a localized energy system (this current phase in running on grid) otherwise I don't see any advantage to this system, other than coastal city deployment. I would love to see how they anticipate managing this at scale, because I can think of dozens of problems that would arise with 10 or 100 of these clustered on the ocean floor.
Lets call it for what it is: an anti-FBI raid datacenter. Based on the limited information, it looks to be no where near the coast line. So lets assume it's at least 12 miles off the coast, and placed into international waters. Good luck with the subpoena! However, at least we now know where the DNC and Hillary relocated their servers...
The two test modules I saw looked to be within a half mile of the coast. But even if they are putting them in international waters, the cables are local to the country and objects left in international waters could be labeled as abandoned allowing the government could use maritime law to seize them. Also, I'm sure Microsoft wants their data centers under the protection of a sovereign power, otherwise any country or company will just float down and take a peak.
This area off Orkney is a well known shallow bank which contains many many renewable tidal experiments so the usage here is because Orkney probably provide very easy access and mooring to the datacentre throufghout the project life, along with power and an a decent internet connection,. I wouldn't just to the conclusion that this is a law avoidance thing.
This might be about keeping their servers off shore, outside of government regulations.
@Mark Marston SHHH! Don't tell anybody!
The project is close to shore, well within what is considered a nation's territorial waters, to say nothing of a nation's Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). This isn't a feasible plan to get outside of the jurisdiction of the Scottish government, or any government for that matter. It still has to have a tether for electricity and fiber optic data.
Trevor Brass thanks for your reply. I seem to recall MS is in a court battle or was in a court battle having to do with where the information actually resides. Some entity requested info and MS technically said it was in another country. I was thinking this project would help them solve that type of problem in the future.
So you're talking about when the U.S. Department of Justice was requesting data that was at a Microsoft data center in Ireland. Microsoft turned over data that was in US-based data centers, but not at its Ireland operation. (U.S. v. Microsoft).
The issue has been mooted by the passage of the CLOUD Act through Congress and signed into law by President Trump.
Trevor Brass Thanks again! I’m always skeptical about things that are “Green” because of other agendas hidden behind the green label.
I'm here after they bring it back ☺️
Image, my AKS cluster working under the sea!! amazing
Ohhhhhh! Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
Ah thats why global warming happens xDD Just had an Microsoft Azure Workshop 2 days ago in the business and the guy said that they have Servers under the sea I was like the dude was kidding xDDD
This is how you make Sealab
Los simpsons lo hicieron de nuevo, Predijeron esto en su película; asi era el "contenedor" de Homero Simpson que enterró en el fonde del Rio... lugo paso lo que paso, jejejejeje
I am all positive with technological advancements but how come putting all this crap inside Ocean is Green Tech?
Only those who go that far, knows how far they can go....👍🏻
Don't overclock your Intel 14nm+++++++++++++++++++++ cores - you'll heat up the ocean!
What about maintenance?
Computers never need maintenance, because... uhoh. Well certainly Microsoft products never need to be restart... alright but they're pretty damn diligent about never issuing patches that might get the server stuck in a blue screen of death reboot loop.... oh man are they in trouble.
These are servers, mot workstation, lol. I think they'll be good.
there's no need of maintenance until an end-user put hands on it...
MTBF is not time, but probability of failure! ;-)
Plot twist, they are running linux
Fascinating.
Pollution abnd junk cluttering up our waterways
surrounded by cold water and having mainframes sealed in a tube that will produce heat......GREAT IDEA!!!! How long till it start creating condensation inside and rust everything to dust?
Hi @Microsoft Research I work for @The Weather Network in Canada and we would like to use this footage for a segment. Do we have your permission?
2:37 actually using OneNote lmao
One note is actually awesome though! :)
groov dafied yea I use it aswell! Was happy to see it used for serious projects!
Same
I use it myself for. Taking notes
2:00
what about maintenance? :D
硬盘坏了怎么办？？？再派打捞队去把这个类似“时间胶囊”的装置打捞上来换硬盘？
Isn’t there a problem in putting so much excess heat in the ocean? I’m not impling, I only want to know more about it :)
Fabio Polidori simply - the ocean is big. We already cool powerplants with seawater
This isn't really a big deal, but yes, in principle it's not good. Standard approach heats the atmosphere, though: the heat can't be magicked away in any case. Sea-heating is more "efficient" in that the energy doesn't readily escape the water, but also there's no powerful fans in this setup, so there's less total energy pumped in.
It'd likely have local effect though.
that's what I was thinking, positioning would be crucial, otherwise local marine life would be impacted. positive or negative impact - that's something to figure out. I've seen marine life thrive because of volcanic openings heating up the waters around them.
It's such a tiny area, as Danny suggests; comparable to a fart in a hurricane. To create any measurable effect, you would need the entire continent of Australia farting simultaneously. Not a likely scenario.
Retiraram porque deu tela azul
Well done team!
Зачем море. Чем не устраивает соседняя река.
Awesome Work !!
Can I put my Windows 10 PC underwater?
Just do it!
Ok, have you any other idea, how to destroy Earth in order to become more money for your company without work? I think, that there is already big problem with growing sea temperature and growing water level because of melting glaciers. What can we do with this problem? We can warming up sea with our servers... Great :-/
"Until now, scientists presumed that seafloor volcanoes exuded lava at a slow and steady pace, but Tolstoy thinks that not only do the volcanoes erupt in bursts, they follow remarkably consistent patterns that range anywhere from two weeks to 100,000 years."
“People have ignored seafloor volcanoes on the idea that their influence is small-but that’s because they are assumed to be in a steady state, which they’re not,”
The reality is not always simple.
But.. can it run Crysis?
I think it will be the longest surface-supplied dive in the world
Houston we have a problem HDD 100% usage.
That power washing vid was good, this is cool
how to replace a faulted blade? or drive?
maybe they left one admin in capsule with some spare parts.
enough water and food supply for the duration of the capsule's service life.
That's part of the challenge! They are trying to engineer it to go without maintenance for a few years. Read the article on PM that linked you hear!
I think Data Centre should be placed in space where there is 24 hrs of solar power and availability.
That may one day soon be possible, Elon Musk's SpaceX is building a new rocket BFR that could take them to space cheaply enough in next 3 years.
Very impressive
This seems sketchy! How would you protect this from physical attack and destruction? If this ever become a reality, how will you stop others from destroying them and crippling your data network? I guess that is a secret to hold but to me as it is, it seems too vulnerable. I guess a 24-7 coastal watch or local security sea platform would help be a physical barrier.
How to replace the server failed battery
How is this a great idea if you're generating the heat underwater which will rise up the sea temperature?
Divisor The heat generated by the servers running is the same even when in water. The difference is in the energy required to cool down. On land you would use Giant ACs which in turn generate more heat, here under the sea you still probably use an AC but consuming less electricity as its cooler down there.
This is how Ultron survives!
deep things rule. Cool.
How u well be can fix when u need!!
I love Microsoft services.
Thx brest
Awesome
is it more emp resistant?
Cool!
It´s a bad ideia because the ocean it's not a trash...
Yeah kool, let's heat up da ocean🙌🏼
It's kool for you, cause of money saving, but it's bad for mother nature. 🤔
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Who cares? 🙌🏼
It doesnt hear up the ocean moron the sea keeps on flowing and the sea will always be cold
and spell cool correctly
Yep, let's heat the oceans even more. The glaciers are melting not fast enough. Thanks M$
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Yeah like someone can't come along and say Cool let me have that, Yoink!
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